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Video: HBO’s How To Make It In America – Season 02 (Trailer #2)

Pharrell cameo at 0:58. Pusha T will also be co-starring this season.

Season starts October 2nd at 10:30pm.

Spotted @ GQ.

Posted by nation on Friday, August 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm under:
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135 Responses to “Video: HBO’s How To Make It In America – Season 02 (Trailer #2)”

Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Only people who still buy albums are

- audiophiles who get nostalgic about vinyl

- baby boomers and older

- prepubescent girls
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Casual Listeners aren’t spending $10 for a piece of plastic that houses files they could have gotten for less the effort and time at home

Especially in this economy
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
If you think THEY are going to buy your albums just to ” support ” …

^^^

I agree with everything you have to say

but the internet may not be as free and fun as it is now for much to longer

Youtube brings down governments
Google searches shrink multi-national corporation’s bottom line
People store info advertisers crave to know on facebook everyday

Thing are going to change
Black brokaw Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Buying j cole. Bought wtt. Shit might buy wales and drakes too

Just cuz
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
but the internet may not be as free and fun as it is now for much to longer

Youtube brings down governments
Google searches shrink multi-national corporation’s bottom line
People store info advertisers crave to know on facebook everyday

Thing are going to change

————————-

The internet isn’t going to close, b.

I don’t know where you got this idea

This isn’t China
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
2011

Jon Huntsman looks too sane and sensible to be the Republican Nominee
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Jon Huntsman

^^^^^^^^^^

Forgettable guy he is.
Black brokaw Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Oh yea forgot about ross and wayne. Might cop those as well
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I WISH they tried to close the internet

I’d just capitalize and give people for free everything the powers that be want them to pay for

On my Pirate Bay Steez
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
2011

Jon Huntsman looks too sane and sensible to be the Republican Nominee

^was thinking the same damn thing this morning.

He’s practically a conservative liberal in his politics too.

I don’t see him being taken seriously because of it either.

#IKnowShitSoundsCray
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

Jon Huntsman

^^^^^^^^^^

Forgettable guy he is.

————————–

It’s certainly become a popularity contest

That’s why every time Sarah Palin farts we get Network Breaking News
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Bobby Genhil should have ran to complete the fuckery and talked about his “Clean Energy” campaign. Smh…
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
If a Republican wins the presidency….I fear for America.

If so, lines like the ones in Atlanta (see below) will be multiplied many times over.

Thousands (5000) of unemployed waited overnight, camping out in their business suits and office heels and braving the tormenting heat in Atlanta to stand in line for a job fair Thursday. Authorities treated 20 people for heat exhaustion as they struggled to keep the line moving and get people moved inside.
The incredible turnout at the job fair comes on the heels of the state labor commissioner’s announcement that Georgia’s jobless rate rose.
The state unemployment rate increased to 10.1 percent in July from the 9.9 percent in June. The unemployment rate for African-Americans stands at 15.9 percent, far above the national rate of 9.1 percent.
July marks the 48th consecutive month that Georgia has exceeded the national unemployment rate.
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
The internet isn’t going to close, b.

I don’t know where you got this idea

This isn’t China

^^^

Not close but

Intense monitoring of web searches
Higher prices (Maybe be affordable for some)
Internet Kill switch
Bandwidth/time quotas
list goes on and on
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
abcnews.go.com/Business/thousands-show-job-fair-jobless-rate-rises/story?id=14336519
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.

^i’ll buy the damn record just skip the tracks of him Lauryn Hill’ing.

“you embarrassing us” -Stalley
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Not close but

Intense monitoring of web searches
Higher prices (Maybe be affordable for some)
Internet Kill switch
Bandwidth/time quotas
list goes on and on

———————————

I don’t think it makes business sense

To all of a sudden make people pay for something we have enjoyed this long for free

I know the internet is crucial and most business and people would have to pay if it happened

But I don’t think it will, it’s too extreme

And all these hackers world wide won’t allow it

The internet thrives on being available to almost everyone

Putting a toll booth at the door decreases its value
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
^i’ll buy the damn record just skip the tracks of him Lauryn Hill’ing.

“you embarrassing us” -Stalley

^^^

That is 9.99 Cole is going to need

*daps*

I think Cole can make a living from underground money tho
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.

————————-

I’m saying times have changed

People go to shows of artists they like

Festivals and Concerts run this music industry

Buying albums almost seems pretentious at this point

It’s like wearing a pin on your shirt ” Hey I support this artist ”

Okay, that great. So do we when we spend $45 + to see them live and in person
why? Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
J. Cole will sell 80-100k.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
CNN Breaking News

Gadhafi’s Last Stand.

It might be all over Harlem …
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Breaking News:

Lybian Leader May Be Readying For Last Push: Ghadafi’s Last Stand

-CNN

Smh…..

On To The Next One: Syria
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
How can someone accuse me of not supporting an artist

Let’s just look at this financially

$45 for a show > $10 for an album

Let’s be real here
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
J. Cole will sell 80-100k.

————————-

I would be surprised if he got this high

Big Sean sold about this much and he had smash singles and just as many female fans as Cole, maybe more
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
I’m saying times have changed

People go to shows of artists they like

===========================
I’m not saying this isn’t true.

But a lot of live hip hop shows are wack – better off just rolling with the album.
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
How can someone accuse me of not supporting an artist

Let’s just look at this financially

$45 for a show > $10 for an album

Let’s be real here

^co-sigh.

Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
But a lot of live hip hop shows are wack – better off just rolling with the album.

————————-

A lot of albums are wack

If I’m going to a show, I really like the artist (n)

I dL a lot of albums I don’t even listen to once
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?

————————–

I’m saying !!!
why? Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Wale sold 30k, Cudi sold 100k, Drake 600k (i think). I think J. Cole could do alright in the first week.
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Let’s just look at this financially

$45 for a show > $10 for an album

Let’s be real here

========================

You wanna be realistic, but J Cole is not Drake or another big headline act.

$20 entry is pushing it for Cole. Shit, I’d even say $15 is too much.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Not to mention that shows usually skip all the record label bullshit ( Unless you go 360)

When Lil Jon was damn near the biggest artist in America, his label was fucking out of his money

He was sustaining on his shows

You think he cared when 10 people in the stands are holding up his album he wasn’t getting paid for ?
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I don’t think it makes business sense

To all of a sudden make people pay for something we have enjoyed this long for free

^^^

Phase 1 of the business model: Network Externality

If you own the only computer in the world with an internet connection it would be worthless

As you said before the internet only works if we all have access

That is why the industry model now is just charge for access

But “we off that”, people need/crave internet access

The industry has now foster enough demand that ISPs will/have begin/begun to do things as:

1. Charging for different internet speeds, forcing non-payers to extremely low speeds capabilities
2. Charging people to get access to certain websites, you pay X dollars a year to visit 100 websites or XX dollars for 500 websites
3. Charging for usage time like cell phone minutes
4. Increase web monitoring by storing web history in a central database

The time is now

prepare for it
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
No J Cole show is $50.
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Harlem,

I’ve bought wack albums from artists but seen them perform live and rock the crowd.

It’s all a gamble.

But me putting more money in the artist’s pocket shows that my contributions were greater to his cause than paying his corporate sponsor.
Big_seth Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
lol.

@TS,

check your email.
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
I payed $25 for Cole here in the Chi.

He did good. You could tell he has a better stage presence than his wax persona.

Well worth it.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
You wanna be realistic, but J Cole is not Drake or another big headline act.

$20 entry is pushing it for Cole. Shit, I’d even say $15 is too much.

———————-

Times have changed

Performances used to promote albums

Now albums and mixtapes promote performances

If after he drops his album, the response to the music doesn’t warrant a higher performance rate is he a viable artist ?

If you ain’t eating in performances, you ain’t eating
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
@Seth,

Cool. Will do.
Samir Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?

^^^

Word. But for my favorite artists, it’s not really an either/or thing for me – I’ll buy the CD and cop tickets to their show. I like owning CDs, though.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
1. Charging for different internet speeds, forcing non-payers to extremely low speeds capabilities
2. Charging people to get access to certain websites, you pay X dollars a year to visit 100 websites or XX dollars for 500 websites
3. Charging for usage time like cell phone minutes
4. Increase web monitoring by storing web history in a central database

The time is now

prepare for it

————————

This isn’t happening

You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

Fear Sells
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
$45 for a show > $10 for an album

^^^

Worked for The Roots

Grinding > Corporate Rolodex

Wale and Mr. X should know this by now

*Raises fist and buys show ticket*
*Yells power to the people out loud*
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
It’s certainly become a popularity contest

That’s why every time Sarah Palin farts we get Network Breaking News

^^^^^^^^^^

True. But she won’t win anything. I don’t see how Obama doesn’t get reelected unless the economy gets much worse. The best bet the republicans got is probably Mitt Romney. Once the truth about Rick Perry’s “job creation” in Texas is exposed, if rationale prevails, he will no longer be a contender. Plus he’s from Texas.
why? Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
People standing around recording shit for their blogs and tumblrs <<<<<

A lot of times the crowd can make a show feel less exciting.
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
This isn’t happening

You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

Fear Sells

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Totally 100% agree.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Harlem your point of argument right now

People should pay $10 for Cole’s album because it cost less to go to a show right now ?

So established artists that charge $50 + for a show – it’s okay to just go to their shows ?

Is that what you’re saying ?
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
This isn’t happening

^^^

Google Net neutrality

But I do read into a lot of things without a grain of salt
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
True. But she won’t win anything. I don’t see how Obama doesn’t get reelected unless the economy gets much worse. The best bet the republicans got is probably Mitt Romney. Once the truth about Rick Perry’s “job creation” in Texas is exposed, if rationale prevails, he will no longer be a contender. Plus he’s from Texas.

————————-

Obama’s is in cold water right now

The economy is terrible enough to kick him out

And young people won’t have his back like last time, this is the highest undergrad unemployment in decades

It’s all about jobs jobs jobs

Obama is running against the unemployment rate
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
*Harlem I don’t understand your point of argument right now
THe KiD FRanKiE Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

Fear Sells

^ I lol’d
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
CD vs Shows

Nah, if the debate what is better

The winner is both

CD + Sells

I just don’t want to help a lot of artist like that tho
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
*DEAD* @ me and CP posting the same story at the same time tho.

Niggas is paying close attention.

We watching.
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
abcnews.go.com/Business/thousands-show-job-fair-jobless-rate-rises/story?id=14336519

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

“The Congressional Black Caucus decided to take matters into their own hands,” said Gunaratna. “They are tired of Republicans’ inaction that prevents bills from moving forward. This is a real tangible opportunity for our constituents.”

^^^^^^^^

What a fucking joke —> “But many of the companies were government agencies who couldn’t take applications and were directing these weary visitors to websites where they could apply online.”

So these people waited for hours, some overnight, in blistering heat to apply for jobs they could ONLY APPLY FOR ONLINE! Thank you Congressional Black Caucus for your intelligent coordination of another very useful event.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Gadhafi’s days are numbered …
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
# Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

*Harlem I don’t understand your point of argument right now

===========================================
I said J COLE fans should buy the album if they wanna support J COLE. It’s not like he’s selling out shows.

I don’t know where The Roots and Lil Jon came into this.

It’s as simple as that. J COLE fans should buy J COLE’s record. That is all.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
So these people waited for hours, some overnight, in blistering heat to apply for jobs they could ONLY APPLY FOR ONLINE! Thank you Congressional Black Caucus for your intelligent coordination of another very useful event.

———————-

SMH …
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Captain Planet
0 mins ago
Gadhafi’s days are numbered …

^Yeah.

R.I.P. Omar
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
It’s all about jobs jobs jobs

Obama is running against the unemployment rate

^^^^^^^^^^^

He’s supposed to be announcing something in September. Really doesn’t matter what he announces because it has to pass through the House and the Senate afterwards and it will take months.

Why did Obama want to postpone the debt ceiling stuff until after the election? Hmmmmmmm….pending austerity measures soon to be passed. Take a look at Europe and you’ll get an idea. Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I said J COLE fans should buy the album if they wanna support J COLE. It’s not like he’s selling out shows.

I don’t know where The Roots and Lil Jon came into this.

It’s as simple as that. J COLE fans should buy J COLE’s record. That is all.

———————

Why isn’t he selling out shows ?

Where are all these fans if he’s not selling out shows ?

Kreyshawn just sold out Highline Ballroom in NYC !

We can agree to disagree

I just think it’s time for it to stop being taboo for not buying albums

That’s so last decade
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Pusha T will also be co-starring this season.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Does G.O.O.D. music have some sort of deal with this show? I know Cons is hatin.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

———————

Uh oh …
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
wtf?
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
ok, lets be realistic

lets say he does a 20 leg tour at $10k each show (lets be real, he has no hits out) – thats $200k approx

350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

whats the bigger profit?

so yeah, you should buy the cd if you really wanna support
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.

^^^

Not going to happen – You don’t direct government spending to debt relief entirely while your economy floats near recession levels.

Are debt is not as bad as the PIGS

US treasures are the safest investment vehicle right now

No need for US austerity

and even if Obama tried he couldn’t do it
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Why did Obama want to postpone the debt ceiling stuff until after the election? Hmmmmmmm….pending austerity measures soon to be passed. Take a look at Europe and you’ll get an idea. Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.

———————-

Could be …

But obviously the inevitable political clashes weren’t going to help his reelection campaign either

Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

He’s a pragmatist

The economy needs cuts AND investment

He’s going to want to do both
Big_seth Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
damn,

when did all the smart niggas get back.

the comments been kinda low brow for a minute.

preciate the response TS.

*daps*
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
cd, itunes, whatever…you get the point
Black brokaw Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I dont thinks its taboo. Its just that most music thats being released is wack artistically
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
I just think it’s time for it to stop being taboo for not buying albums

^^^^^^^^^^

Sheeeeit it aint been that way to me for years lol.

I used to cop albums from bootleg man in the 90′s, now i just dl. I dont give a fuck about supporting these niggas. Cole gotta degree, if the shit too hectic he can try and get a gig.
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
# Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

———————

Uh oh …

======================
LOL, you sound surprised.
Albert Findsdimes Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
LF: Avatar the series>>>
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

ok, lets be realistic

lets say he does a 20 leg tour at $10k each show (lets be real, he has no hits out) – thats $200k approx

350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

whats the bigger profit?

so yeah, you should buy the cd if you really wanna support

————————-

C’mon Harlem

Any kid can see you’re being optimistic about the CD sales and pessimistic about the shows

How in the world would Cole sell 350 K albums ???

By the same token those fans that could be buying his albums could be going to his shows

He does that same 20 leg show for $30 K

That’s 500 K ! He can hire a personal eyebrow tweezer !
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
I dont give a fuck about supporting these niggas. Cole gotta degree, if the shit too hectic he can try and get a gig.

================
cosign

I’m just saying IF people wanna support their artists they should buy the album. Unless it’s Jigga or someone balling from tour money.

IF.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

# Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

———————

Uh oh …

======================
LOL, you sound surprised.

———————–

Worried.

Those guys one-upism gets out of control quick

I just realized there haven’t been those 45 Killed in Jerusalem News Reports daily for awhile
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
None of these Tea Party psychos will win a general election because I guarantee the way they’ve galvanized their base is gonna work against them.

Once those fucked up ideas hit the mainstream, people are gonna rally just to make sure their kept out of office.
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
I’m just saying IF people wanna support their artists they should buy the album.

^^^

Co-Sign

People know this

but I/we/everyone don’t want too
LeRoy Green Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Median – The Sender >>>>>>>

9th Wonder/Khrysis soul beats >>>>>>>
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
He does that same 20 leg show for $30 K

That’s 500 K ! He can hire a personal eyebrow tweezer !

========================-==========
He has no hits out! He’s been a supporting act for Drake & Rihanna tryna get his buzz up.

350 k after 6 months is realistic for Cole, I don’t understand the problem.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

———————-

And I know you coming from the industry know it’s not coming out this clean

He’s got to repay his advancement, promotion etc …

Even if God shined his light on him and he did sell 350K who knows if he’s just breaking even ?

There’s no question artist get a far greater share of their Show Money

Show Money is YOUR Money – Forgot Who
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

^^^^^^^^^

De Facto Truce!? Thats a funny way of describing “the time it takes to reload.”
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
This is all speculation & opinion anyway.

I’m just speaking statistically.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
He has no hits out! He’s been a supporting act for Drake & Rihanna tryna get his buzz up.

350 k after 6 months is realistic for Cole, I don’t understand the problem.

——————-

C’mon Harlem !

He has no hits so why would 350 Thousand people buy his album ???
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

^^^^^^^^^

De Facto Truce!? Thats a funny way of describing “the time it takes to reload.”

———————-

HAHAHA

That’s actually really funny
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Sean Falyon is good people.
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
i thought artists signed to majors get like pennies off of every record sold. That was why them niggas had to sell 1 mill just to recoup or they would be in the red.
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
*jumps in convo unasked*

For the 1st time, this year I decided buying albums is just not worth it. I musta donated $10,000 to the record industry over the years, but it just dont make sense to me anymore. I used to be the biggest “support the artist” nigg, but its over.

Sad part is I dont go to live shows unless they dirt cheap, a date or rare old classics like Sade or whatever because my home/car system sound better than some wack niggas screaming in my ear.

just keeping it real, it is what it is. all the best to music artists, hope that money come form somewhere
The Cool Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
_ _ _ >>> Working on a Friday night
jderrida Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
just keeping it real, it is what it is. all the best to music artists, hope that money come form somewhere

^^^

Yeah………
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
People are going to more shows than ever

Festivals and Concerts RUN this Industry

That’s why WTT sound like it does

Jay-Z himself said they have to compete with the Bonos and Coldplays of the world for Slots (n)

It’s the artist’s bread and butter in 2011
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
>>>>>>>>>> unknown nigga rap concerts
>>>>>>>>>> random niggas screaming in your ears
>>>>>>>>>> 2742513 to 1 male to female
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Sad part is I dont go to live shows unless they dirt cheap, a date or rare old classics like Sade or whatever because my home/car system sound better than some wack niggas screaming in my ear.

^^^^^^^^^

hip Hop live is still the worst, at least for the majority of artists. There has been a progression in recent years but the fact remains that its definitely better outta speakers.
MK Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.

It’s the same reason Wale ain’t out there knocking out dates. His fee is dumb high for who the fuck he is. Just cause you got 1M Twitter followers, who the fuck cares? These artists performance fees are now inflated because records don’t sell anymore. That much is obvious to me at least.

BTW, people can say what they want about Wiz, but he banked 11M last year. Been on the road steady for like 3 years. Hard to fault him for that work ethic.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

It’s a Recession and you’re getting in your car ( gas ) to go to the store ( time ) to buy an album ( cash )

When you can just get the same EXACT files at home without the waste of gas, time and money

Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

Makes real economic sense.
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
People are going to more shows than ever

Festivals and Concerts RUN this Industry

^it does seem like people going to live shows alot more tho. But very, very few live shows have sounded better than stereo or headphones to me. Especially rap concerts

niggas is oldheads, b
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
He has no hits so why would 350 Thousand people buy his album ???

====================================

Over 6 months – maybe 12 like B.O.B did – slow but steady build up.

I buy 2-3 new albums a year – (new as in released the year I buy it in.)

I go to more shows then albums I buy.

But I’m just saying…Cole needs them sales – Its nothing to me, im not a fan.
Black brokaw Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
i’d probably go to a Lil B concert to witness the cult

*ducks while cooking*
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

=====================
Who said this? Fans USUALLY buy albums…

I said J COLE fans need to buy J COLE’S album IF they really wanna support.

You’re taking my words out of context.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is

————————-

You can take as many personal shots as you want

But the Black Unemployment rate is 15%

Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

SMH …
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Not going to happen – You don’t direct government spending to debt relief entirely while your economy floats near recession levels.

Are debt is not as bad as the PIGS

US treasures are the safest investment vehicle right now

No need for US austerity

and even if Obama tried he couldn’t do it

^^^^^^^^^^^^

No need for austerity? Are you dense? Austerity on some level MUST happen. New revenue and/or further gov’t spending cuts. Do you have any idea why Standard & Poor’s downgraded the U.S. credit rating from AAA to AA+? Evidently not.

It will happen. It has already begun, albeit on a lower level. First stops for gov’t cuts (thus far) are defense spending (Boeing, Raytheon, etc…will hit Northern VA very hard) and Medicare/Medicaid.

Go ahead and invest treasuries and earn 2% on your money. Good luck with that. Eventually your gains will be eroded by inflation.

Our > Are btw.

Our debt is just as bad as the PIIGS (not PIGS). The difference is in the past we could print our way out of it…day-by-day this appears to no longer be an option. Everyone is waiting to hear what Bernanke says at Jackson Hole in the coming days.

The EU/euro is a much more complicated currency situation than one country that controls its own currency.
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

^^^^^^^^^^

That line of thinking just never made sense to me. I wouldnt go to a store and pay a dub for some shit that the Africans on the ave had for 5.

I’m not paying anything for something that can be emailed or dled for free.
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is

————————-

You can take as many personal shots as you want

But the Black Unemployment rate is 15%

Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

SMH …

^Learn em!

I thot I heard 20% somewhere
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
# MK Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.

It’s the same reason Wale ain’t out there knocking out dates. His fee is dumb high for who the fuck he is. Just cause you got 1M Twitter followers, who the fuck cares? These artists performance fees are now inflated because records don’t sell anymore. That much is obvious to me at least.

BTW, people can say what they want about Wiz, but he banked 11M last year. Been on the road steady for like 3 years. Hard to fault him for that work ethic.

====================
exactly

a guy like J COLE…lemme say it again

a guy like J COLE….. needs to sell records
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

He’s a pragmatist

^^^^^^^^

You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

=====================
Who said this? Fans USUALLY buy albums…

I said J COLE fans need to buy J COLE’S album IF they really wanna support.

You’re taking my words out of context.

——————————

Fans USED to buy albums

* Fixed *

And that wasn’t directly at you Harlem, you know you my nigga (n)

Other people had the same attitude on these boards

It’s more at all the people who share these kinds of views in general

Among the core of hip-hop fans, not buying albums is still taboo

I think it’s time to get past that

The onus is on the INDUSTRY to reconstruct their business model

If people want to suffer because of their confusion that’s their fault
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

^^^^^^^^^^

That line of thinking just never made sense to me. I wouldnt go to a store and pay a dub for some shit that the Africans on the ave had for 5.

I’m not paying anything for something that can be emailed or dled for free.

^its fukked, but true. Niggas better start singing country music. Them niggas the only loyal album buying fans.

*buys hat boots and guitar*
*moves to nashvile*
*starts band named the country negras*
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

^^^^^^^^^

It aint even about that with me lol. this is America and if two places are offering the same product, one for 10 bucks and the other for free then I’m going the free route.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

i’d probably go to a Lil B concert to witness the cult

*ducks while cooking*

————————-

YOOOOOOO !!!

I went to his show at Coachella

It is QUITE the scene

I’ve never been to a show like that

So much Energy !
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
speaking of OBama, its funny to me how these niggas about to fuck up their country because they hate niggs. Just blocking evcerything because they want Obama and the country to fail together. Imagine if Obama get 4 more years.

Emotions, belief and tradition is some powerful shit
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Curren$y has one of the biggest movements in Hip-Hop

NO ONE references his CD Sales

But he goes state to state doing shows

This is the new norm guys
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

^^^^^^^^^^^

I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
It aint even about that with me lol. this is America and if two places are offering the same product, one for 10 bucks and the other for free then I’m going the free route.

——————-

I’m Saying !!!
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
# Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

i thought artists signed to majors get like pennies off of every record sold. That was why them niggas had to sell 1 mill just to recoup or they would be in the red.

====================
its like approximately a dollar an album – after youve repaid the label

if you dont you end up like ace hood

if you were on a major and sold around 300k youd be alright, i dont know if its still the same now
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

^^^^^^^^^^^

I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.

———————-

Co-sign

Let’s solve problems
NovemberEnd Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.
^^^
I don’t know he is Jay Z flagship artist, I could see him getting 30k or more a show.

But maybe I’m overstating Shawn influence.They obviously letting this dude figure out this marketing & promoting thing by himself…lol
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Cole probably needs to sell some records if he has any hope of getting to release a 2nd or 3rd. not selling albums does effect your pockets in the sense that it may get you dropped or shelved and severely limit your earning potential.
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
*Daps Seth*

No problem bro.
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

^^^^^^^^^^^

I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.

^^^^^^^^^

I agree. But everyone has to have some convictions.
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
# Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

Curren$y has one of the biggest movements in Hip-Hop

NO ONE references his CD Sales

=====================
and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
And the Recession is NOT an excuse to why niggas is broke. It is THE reason.

Quit acting like everyone is as fortunate as you.

Niggas was the first to go at most of these companies.

Hell, I sho know I was.
GMLLZ Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

^^^^^^^^

Word???? Wow. I feel like that’s what JCole needs to be charging.
Harlem World Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Qaddafi >>>
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter

———————–

And for Curren$y himself !

He does the show, gets his money and walks the fuck out

He doesn’t have to pay advancement, breakage – Nuna Dat
Troubleshooter1900 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Truth be told,

My account ain’t SEEING what it was seeing just a fuckin year ago.

And I ain’t never been a lazy nigga. NEVER!!

#RealNiggaShit
Captain Planet Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Hell

With Show Money you can even dodge the IRS …

* Scrambles IP Address *
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Currensy & Wiz are marketing kingpins tho. Everyone wants to be part of something bigger than themselves(nh) and that Taylor Gang/JETS shit is perfect for the college crowd. That plus the fact that their selling the good parts of the college life in their music.
Black Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I definitely understand why the rich are afraid of class warfare and why they try to even avoid saying the word “poor”. If we divide ourselves along financial lines instead of race/religion the few kizzas with serious bread in this country would be in serious shit.
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Everyone wants to be part of something bigger than themselves

^if you can figure out this marketing stratagey for any product/service right now you win
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
strategery
Brolic Fonts Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
*cooks way out of c-section*
NovemberEnd Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

He’s a pragmatist
^^^
Which is fine, If he wasn’t such a god awful negotiator and he learned that when certain Republican ideas don’t work you think of another solution. Which usually turns out to be the opposite of Conservative thinking.

You lower taxes and they don’t create jobs, you do all sorta of spending cuts to social programs that might help people get jobs, but you end up taking money of people pay checks…but you want people working and spending money to boost the economy?

good luck with that
MK Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter
=======================================
THIS.

Some of these artists who stay touring like Spitta have their price point figured out very well. Where it is advantageous for them AND the promoter. For those type of artists, making it advantageous for promoters keeps allowing them to get back to those smaller markets. Truth be told, for those artists ALL the markets are important. More shows, more dough. WIN-WIN.

While artists like WHALE are still clueless and charging a dumb high fee. You have to be in one of the top markets to even come close to doing alright.

I know Cole has a label behind him, but I was surprised to see he had all those dates locked down as a headliner. I guess it’s easy to forget the debate used to who will blow up bigger: Drake or Cole? That’s fucking jokes now.

I still don’t see Cole being a good deal in the smaller markets. I don’t know how the tour was put together, but I still know he ain’t getting 30K a show. No one is that dumb.
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