Lil Wayne ft. Kidd Kidd, Gudda Gudda, T Streets & Mack Maine – My Birthday

An unreleased joint reportedly from the Dedication 3 sessions that didn’t make the project. And Dedication 3 wasn’t all that good anyways, so I’ll let you do that math.

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Previously: Lil Wayne – “Nightmares Of The Bottom” (Preview)


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144 Responses to “Lil Wayne ft. Kidd Kidd, Gudda Gudda, T Streets & Mack Maine – My Birthday”

  1. SPITGAME Says:

    Nas = GOAT

    Big = GOAT

    Jay = GOAT

    Niggas will ack like Nas’ incessant contradictions and artists Mishandlings(I’m sure this ain’t the right way to word it) never happened or like BIG wasn’t makin shit up sometimes and sending sublims…

    Let that boy cook it ain’t his fault that niggas can’t fuck wit him wit the wordplay, flow or delivery….. Lol

  2. ilovemia305 Says:

    $WonDough$ can hang with any of these dudes and sum…Even Lil Wayne

    GET LACED

  3. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    Nas = GOAT

    Big = GOAT

    Jay = GOAT
    _________________________
    I wouldn’t have cosigned the 3rd until I hear “So Ghetto”

    The Nas stannism blinds most from the greatness Hov stores like water in a camel’s hump.

  4. ilovemia305 Says:

    $WonDough$ will be able to hang with the GOATs….just watch….matter of fact…listen…

    GET LACED

  5. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    SPITGAME Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    ^^^

    realist shit ever commented

    *daps*

  6. charles lee ray Says:

    If u would have told me in 1996 that jay z would be where he is today I would’ve kindly told u to go fuck yourself.I thought jay was trying too hard to personify that mafioso image on that first album

  7. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    But goddamn my nigga I think your secretly Jungle… I have never met anyone with as much disdain for one of the GOAT hip hop performers as you… You go as far as to get mad at niggas for appreciating the music and business acumen like he ain’t set the bar and do push ups on it damn near by himself since the late 90′s into the new millennia..
    ===================================
    Me? Mad?

    Not at all.

    And his music as well as his business acumen are kinda overrated.

    I just call it like I see it.

    “it ain’t his fault that niggas can’t fuck wit him wit the wordplay, flow or delivery”

    Amp exists to counteract bullshit like what was written above.

    Jay-z is not perfect. He is not hands down the best MC of his generation. He’s not the illest business mind in Hip-Hop.

    He just wants you to believe he is and I see some of you have been fooled.

  8. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Is it really that hard to believe that I can say & stand by all the shit I say about Jay-Z and still (somewhat) respect and appreciate his music?

  9. SPITGAME Says:

    The Nas stannism blinds most from the greatness Hov stores like water in a camel’s hump.
    ^^^
    smh… It’s True (c) Ease

    The Nahright C section elitists have def strengthened my stance on dudes music… Hatred only makes my opinion stronger… I’m rootin for the Heat to win it all too for the EXACT same reason… But here’s the gotcha… Those guys are actually EXTREMELY talented… So much so that their comparing certain players to Jordan… So the hate really isn’t even warranted it’s just cool to do smh… Makes me think of one of those GOATS I mentioned

  10. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Hatred only makes my opinion stronger
    =================================
    If you think any criticism of Jay-Z is “hatred”, you aren’t really paying attention.

  11. SPITGAME Says:

    Jay-z is not perfect.
    ^^^
    Of course he’s not…

    “I’m far from being GOD but I work GODDAMN hard” (c) Do I Have To?

    But just that line above illustrates what I mean… Niggas will be HARD PRESSED to play wit them words and them flows and EVOLVE as a musician and person regardless of whatever image niggas have of em like the boy Hov…

  12. SPITGAME Says:

    Amp…

    Let’s call a spade a spade…

    That’s hatred what you be spewin dog lol…

    And I’m not judging if you hate niggas you hate niggas… But damn if I just can’t understand it… Nas and Sigel even know what it is lol

  13. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    no they didn’t.
    ==================
    Yeah they did, like because P’s not a billionaire and he did a bid, he’s automatically losing.

    Let go of the Camel’s teet.

    > no nigga…the dude gave you 2 examples of hov winning & becuz you’re stannin for p you used that as a medium between the two to pitch your disdain.

    who in their right mind only thinks of one way to win? foh!

    you stay on that spinster shit.

  14. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    The image of perfection Jay-Z tries to give off is what makes me wanna poke holes in his facade.

    Nobody is perfect.

    The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.

  15. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    > no nigga…the dude gave you 2 examples of hov winning & becuz you’re stannin for p you used that as a medium between the two to pitch your disdain.
    ===================================
    Who was talking about Jay-Z though?

  16. charles lee ray Says:

    jay z did copy a lot of cats.he tried to be puff on vol 1, dmx bought the street shit back,hov throwing on baNdanas.more Im sure.

  17. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    That’s hatred what you be spewin dog lol…
    ===================================
    Only to someone who only sees things one way.

    Give me an example of this hatred.

  18. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    i don’t think hov is perfect at all.

    but i’d be a fool to think that dude doesn’t have a strong understanding of his field w/most of the bases BEEN covered.

  19. SPITGAME Says:

    I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…

    I’ve heard them say the rocked out to the OB4CL2 more, because Rae was back but if it wasn’t that or BP3 it was Cudi rockin…

  20. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Funny shit is, I’m prolly more knowledgeable about Jay’s come up/discog then most.

    NahRight.com
    If you ain’t stanning, you’re hating.

  21. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…
    =======================================================
    You need to get out more.

  22. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Who was talking about Jay-Z though?

    > lol! dude you started this P winning diatribe with.

    but as always…you gotta make contrast for a man you know damn well earned his bright.

    pozjic

  23. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    if it wasn’t that or BP3 it was Cudi rockin…
    =================================
    And what hood are you from?

    Cause niggas around here don’t know what the fuck a Cudi is.

  24. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    Vol. 1 gets no love

    Some of Jay’s best ever songs.

    Streets Is Watching, Intro, Imaginary Player, Where I’m From, Friend or Foe 98

    good album

  25. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…
    _________________
    TBH though: I’ve yet to hear anyone talk in person about BP3 outside of the C-Section.

  26. Captain Planet Says:

    The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.

    ———————–

    I’ve noticed this too …

    I even think the Beyonce marriage is a premeditated act rather than true love, but I ain’t hating on that tho.

  27. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    Even the Nas shots are hilarious

    Yo what’s the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?

  28. Captain Planet Says:

    BP3 is wack for real tho.

    I’m sure Hov thinks so.

    He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.

    Do they still love me? Can I still pull this off?

  29. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    As soon as someone tells you something is perfect, subconsciously your eyes and mind begin looking for the flaws.

    It’s human nature.

  30. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media

    > lol! niggas act like hov has to be personable enough for their viewing standards now? all the while listening to his music with a more satisfactory over than a dissatisfactory under?

    whose world is this?

  31. SPITGAME Says:

    The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.
    ^^^
    LOL… So now he not even himself in his interviews an stuff… Who he tryna “copy” in his interviews?

    I mean I could try to dig up the pure hate that you have typed about this man but it’s never been that serious… I’ll tell you what tho more times than not during lurk your talkin about how “wack” the niggas albums is or his “copying” or whatever… Come on b… I ain’t never hear you talk about Nas’ “wacknes” or stagnation or P’s… They perfect? I mean I thought songs like “Lost Ones” or “You must love me” painted good pictures of his imperfections…

    I’m just sayin… We gotta do better

  32. Captain Planet Says:

    Random Axe got some ill beats.

    But the verses are too simple for me.

    But Casket ain’t lied, it sounds like Detroit is coming with some heat this year.

    I already like Boldy (n)

    And out in Cali, I’ve seen random hipster white boys and Mexicans shouting out Danny Brown (I ain’t a fan)

  33. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.

    > about 5 millie in tenuous-ness.

  34. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    BP3 is wack for real tho.
    ^^^

    Apologists will try their best to convince you otherwise but that album is a low point in Jay-Z’s career.

    Best Of Both Worlds was better then that shit.

  35. Captain Planet Says:

    Hov is just as flawed as the rest of us.

    *gulp* Even Nas tho … maybe more so, dealing with being a child prodigy / genius and alla dat

  36. SPITGAME Says:

    And im from PA and be EVERYWHERE… No one yet from outside the c section talked that shit… You know why? Cuz you CANNOT front on what this nigga be spittin… *Puts on What We Talkin Bout*

  37. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    I think the Hov shots come from the fact he never seems to fully be himself, there’s always someone else’s wave he’s riding. And then he turns and claims to be the best when it took years of biting to get to his level.

    But Jay got dope songs in the catalogue still.

  38. Captain Planet Says:

    kevfrescura de talco Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.

    > about 5 millie in tenuous-ness.

    ———————-

    *blank stare*

  39. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    thas an ill buy out for a so called sub par, past his prime emcee.

  40. charles lee ray Says:

    Even the Nas shots are hilarious
    Yo what’s the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?

    >how is that a shot at Nas?

  41. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    I ain’t never hear you talk about Nas’ “wacknes” or stagnation or P’s… They perfect? I mean I thought songs like “Lost Ones” or “You must love me” painted good pictures of his imperfections…

    I’m just sayin… We gotta do better
    =================================
    I’ve shitted on Nas & P before. I’m quite sure of it.

    But everyone shits on P & Nas. It’s too easy.

    But let me say something about Jay-Z and all kinds of fans/stans come outta the wood work to defend the Camel’s honor.

    100 on 1. Those are the kinda odds I’m used to on NahRight.

  42. SPITGAME Says:

    Niggas will listen to a album FULL of drivel (Goblin, He’s Gay) and tell me BP3 is wack… Whatevers whatev

  43. charles lee ray Says:

    I think the Hov shots come from the fact he never seems to fully be himself, there’s always someone else’s wave he’s riding. And then he turns and claims to be the best when it took years of biting to get to his level.

    >.word to the brothers.

  44. Captain Planet Says:

    Lol comparing the bar set for Jay-Z to those set for Tyler the Creator and Lil B is damn right blasphemous.

  45. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    Goblin isn’t drivel and BP3 IS wack

    *still co-signs your three headed goat theory*

  46. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    And im from PA and be EVERYWHERE… No one yet from outside the c section talked that shit… You know why? Cuz you CANNOT front on what this nigga be spittin… *Puts on What We Talkin Bout*
    ==========================================
    There are maybe 3-4 songs on there that stand up to the rest of Jay-Z’s discog.

    But to seriously listen to BP3 front to back for enjoyments sake?

    Can’t do it.

    To much ego stroking and holier then thou posturing for me…even for Jay-Z.

  47. Captain Planet Says:

    I just couldn’t listen to BP3 because it was wack.

    It felt forced and uninspired.

  48. Captain Planet Says:

    But BP3 doesn’t define Hov tho.

    Nas has had subpar albums and Biggie probably would have if he had time.

    Once again … we are all human.

  49. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    how is that a shot at Nas?

    ^^^

    “like 30 to 40 grand cocksucka beat it”

    Jay’s whole existence was shots at Nas back then

  50. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    But let me say something about Jay-Z and all kinds of fans/ stans come outta the wood work to defend the Camel’s honor.

    >stop all ya bloodclot cryin!

    it ain so much defending hov as it is reading ya rebuttals that jus come off forced.

    you can have ya opinion, no doubt…

    but sayin that hov isn’t a main gear in the industry machine is wyle erroneous & irrational.

  51. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    We Off Timbs

    Oh word Ye you rockin’ Timbs?

    We back on Timbs everyone … you heard it here first aight

  52. NovemberEnd Says:

    BP3 is wack for real tho.
    ^^^
    word

    Why are people even still debating

    Niggas in denial b

  53. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay’s whole existence was shots at Nas back then

    ——————

    Lol it’s true.

    I’m sure it still irks Jay-Z … the love Nas gets.

    Jay-Z works and hustles his ass off, selling millions of records, ascending to critical acclaim on occasion …

    But he will never get the same kind of love Nas gets which will never wane based on the impact of the classic Illmatic which didn’t even sell that well.

    ” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation

  54. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    To much ego stroking and holier then thou posturing for me…even for Jay-Z.

    > but you’ve been listening to WYLE rappers do this for YEARS! enough to be either desensitized or accept it as a normal function.

    but when its hov…you can’t listen?

    hater

  55. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    But BP3 doesn’t define Hov tho.
    ^^^

    It doesn’t and I know he can make a better album. His post BP3 verses have proven that he’s still sharp when he wants to be.

    BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.

    When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.

    I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.

  56. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    ” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation

    ^^^

    deaded

  57. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    but when its hov…you can’t listen?
    ^^^

    Hov talks about his superiority to every human on Earth almost exclusively.

    You’re great. I get it. What else?

  58. Captain Planet Says:

    BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.

    When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.

    I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.

    ———————–

    Co-sign.

  59. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    but look whom i’m choppin it with.

    you was down on life, ready to join the army when bp3 dropped.

    of course you wasn’t tryna hear hov.

  60. Captain Planet Says:

    Hov talks about his superiority to every human on Earth almost exclusively.

    You’re great. I get it. What else?

    ——————–

    Lol!!!!

  61. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    ” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
    ^^^

    He was really trying to convince people not to like Nas on “The Blueprint 2″.

    Shit seemed mad corny.

  62. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    If hip hop really did die, Jay would switch to rock or country in a heartbeat. That doesn’t mean he hasn’t made some of the dopest hip hop ever though.

    But I mean bragging about dumbing down for sales is kinda the most offensive thing a serious mc could ever say to their audience.

  63. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.

    > he set a bar for himself that garnered mainstream appeal.

    he spose to go backwards now cuz you don’t vibe with an album?

    smh

  64. Captain Planet Says:

    Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.

    Maybe that’s why we’re falling off.

    How many ways can you talk about how great you are, how much money you have, the yay you sell and how many bitches you have?

    And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?

  65. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    you was down on life, ready to join the army when bp3 dropped.
    ==============================================
    Figuring things out, looking at options, reevaluating your status in the greater scheme of things does not = down on life.

    It = I smoke a lot of weed. A LOT.

  66. Captain Planet Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    ” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
    ^^^

    He was really trying to convince people not to like Nas on “The Blueprint 2″.

    Shit seemed mad corny.

    —————-

    ” Everybody’s like, ‘He’s no item. Please don’t like him. “

  67. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    How many ways can you talk about how great you are, how much money you have, the yay you sell and how many bitches you have?
    ^^^

    If you’re clever enough, you can make a career outta that shit.

    Ask Jay-Z.

  68. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?

    > repetition is to mainstream what air is to humans.

  69. Captain Planet Says:

    A piece of me dies when I turn on a Hip-Hop radio station and ALL I hear is techno …

    The end is near yall …

    Yall kids are gonna be taking e pill smoothies, listening to repetitive beats of nothing like ” Pops, why you still listen to drug dealer nursery rhymes old man “

  70. Captain Planet Says:

    kevfrescura de talco Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?

    > repetition is to mainstream what air is to humans.

    ————————

    Agreed.

    But trends changing quicker than the wind also are synonymous with mainstream as well.

  71. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.

    ^^^

    Nah, it’s been 11 years since Supreme Clientele and the rest of hip hop still hasn’t caught up.

    There’s still room for improvement.

  72. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    It = I smoke a lot of weed. A LOT.

    > how you smoke so much but always got a problem with hov?

    weed a happy drug yo.

  73. Captain Planet Says:

    If you guys aren’t noticing the Techno Takeover yall aren’t paying attention.

    I turn on Power 106 out here in Cali and it’s ALL techno. I swear.

  74. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    But trends changing quicker than the wind also are synonymous with mainstream as well.

    > even moreso with hip hop.

    how long clifford been sitting this time around?

    now he acting like he frank lucas about to be released in the 90s n shit.

    hip hop ain waiting for no one to play catch up.

  75. Captain Planet Says:

    Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.

    ^^^

    Nah, it’s been 11 years since Supreme Clientele and the rest of hip hop still hasn’t caught up.

    There’s still room for improvement.

    ———————-

    Skills can continue to develop till the end of the world.

    But we need new topics.

  76. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    i co-sign BP3 being wack

    and applaud Hov’s power of suggestion on the common hip-hop fan

    75% of the stuff he constantly mention some how becomes public opinion

  77. Vincent Van Dro Says:

    Dipped like an oreo cookie
    In cold milk, bold silk
    Gold-filled cap, wu wear hat,
    Low tilt
    True islamic
    We speak verbal rhyme phonics
    Why y’all trying to change this hip hop to technotronics?

  78. NovemberEnd Says:

    After three months of speculation, Shawty Lo tells AHH that he’s has signed a deal with 50 Cent’s G-Unit Records.
    ^^^
    I don’t get it

    Curtis might as well start a new label instead of trying to re-establish the GUnit brand w/ Shawty Lo leading the charge

  79. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    Erykah Badu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hov

  80. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    ‘Scuse me

    Erykah Badu >>>> Hov

  81. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Skills can continue to develop till the end of the world.

    But we need new topics.
    ^^^

    That’s why Everyman rap is more popular now then ever before.

    The Crack/Cocaine trade isn’t the same as before. More kids are worrying about college then cooking up a brick.

    People are into listening to stuff they can actually relate to or listening to fantasy so over the top, you accept it as mindless fiction and have fun with it.

  82. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Erykah Badu >>>> Hov

    >easily.

    she got a hemi.

  83. Captain Planet Says:

    Soon, it’s gonna be like when pop and R&B ran shit …

    When the biggest deal for rappers was to get on J.Lo’s single or Usher’s

    Rappers are about to be begging DJ’s to get on a their tracks

    Sooner than Later if something drastic doesn’t happen.

    But hey, then ALL artists will be underground and the quality of music will increase

  84. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Curtis might as well start a new label instead of trying to re-establish the GUnit brand w/ Shawty Lo leading the charge
    ==================
    Haters w Yayo, Fif, LO & Roscoe Dash >>>>>>>>>>

    Shawty Lo is certified in the streets of the A and is well connected in the South.

    Less work getting him going then it would take getting a brand new artist popping.

    And Lo gives G-Unit that Southern component they lost when 50 benched Young Buck.

  85. Captain Planet Says:

    That’s why Everyman rap is more popular now then ever before.

    The Crack/Cocaine trade isn’t the same as before. More kids are worrying about college then cooking up a brick.

    People are into listening to stuff they can actually relate to or listening to fantasy so over the top, you accept it as mindless fiction and have fun with it.

    ——————-

    It’s true (c) b-ease

  86. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    she got a hemi.
    ________________________
    “Where is the pussy magnet?” -Borat

  87. Remixznflow Says:

    you know what i find the MOST interesting about these convos of ours…

    we act like we actually know these niggas… like we can call hov or nas or p up for a drink and kick it in the islands with em…

    like we they family member or something…

    when the fact is.. we dont know these niggas… so who are we to say what them niggas is REALLY like.. we dont know their minds.. we dont know their thought process… but for some reason niggas ALWAYS wanna make their arguments from this standpoint…

    case in point:

    BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.

    When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.

    I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.

    #thatisall

  88. Captain Planet Says:

    Remixznflow Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    —————-

    cool story bro (c) Someone cool

    But these are artist, not the neighborhood garbage man ( Fuck you Jerz )

    They put their heart and souls on these records, who can’t hide who you are or conversely who you want to be.

    You didn’t need to be Courtney Love or a registered psychiatrist to know Kurt Cobain was a tortured soul.

    *Calmly Lights Cigar*

  89. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    when the fact is.. we dont know these niggas… so who are we to say what them niggas is REALLY like.. we dont know their minds.. we dont know their thought process… but for some reason niggas ALWAYS wanna make their arguments from this standpoint…

    case in point:

    BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.

    When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.

    I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
    =================
    That’s how I FEEL.

    It’s my opinion.

    Y’all the ones who read what I write and get aggy like I offended a family member.

  90. Captain Planet Says:

    But these are *artists, not the neighborhood garbage man ( Fuck you Jerz )

    They put their heart and souls on these records, *you can’t hide who you are or conversely who you want to be.

    —————

    Fixed.

  91. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements.

    Jay’s greatness is based in identifiable skills (his flow, wordplay, etc.) and his fans arguments mirror that. In that they’re based on countless supporting points that lend an air of phoniness in their quantity instead of support.

    It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?

  92. cOLD Says:

    Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.

  93. Captain Planet Says:

    It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?

    ——————

    I BEEN telling niggas Nas is the David Copperfield of this shit!

  94. Captain Planet Says:

    cOLD Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.

    ——————-

    Eh … it’s substantial.

  95. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements.

    Jay’s greatness is based in identifiable skills (his flow, wordplay, etc.) and his fans arguments mirror that. In that they’re based on countless supporting points that lend an air of phoniness in their quantity instead of support.

    It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
    ^^^

    Like Nas’s greatness stems from something unquantifiable, as he doesn’t have the flow or wordplay to warrant an argument of his status in the game based on skill.

    FOH wit that bullshit B.

    Balanced Content. Thought Provoking Lyrics. Unique Concepts.

    These things (along with others) are what make Nas great.

    I don’t believe in Magic.

  96. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.

    > agreed.

  97. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.

    Cause without money, there is no argument.

  98. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    I don’t believe in Magic.
    _________________________________
    Lol

    I agree Nas has all that stuff you said, and they’re among the reasons I think he’s better than Jay Z. A lot better. But I stand by the statement that he has an intangible greatness. Dude is a griot.

  99. Captain Planet Says:

    I don’t believe in Magic.

    ——————

    Lol!!!!

    I will say in art there is something magical or spiritual if you will that happens in the studio.

    Quincy Jones has a sign in his studio that says, ” Leave room for God ”

    I think he knows a thing or two about this biz.

  100. cOLD Says:

    It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?

    ^ I get where you going… and I kinda agree. But it’s more like analog vs digital. One with a frequency that’s inately understood, the other program that looks and sounds good withouth the harmonious attachment… Jay Z is binary rap. lol

  101. Captain Planet Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.

    Cause without money, there is no argument.

    ———————-

    I wouldn’t go that far tho …

    This is art but it is also a business …

    Something has to be said about captivating the imagination of the masses and being commercially successful

  102. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements

    > yo sun…
    this is funny as fuck!

  103. Casket Face Says:

    youtu.be/ECRZqlevftQ

    this boxing intro >

  104. Captain Planet Says:

    cOLD Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?

    ^ I get where you going… and I kinda agree. But it’s more like analog vs digital. One with a frequency that’s inately understood, the other program that looks and sounds good withouth the harmonious attachment… Jay Z is binary rap. lol

    —————————

    I see where yall are going …

    I’ve said this before but the difference between Jay-Z and Nas?

    Jay-Z is a hustler and Nas is a true artist.

    Nas was dropping classics at 16, Jay-Z was selling drugs to his late 20s.

    If Nas never sold big, he’d still be rapping.

    If Jay-Z never sold big, he would still be rich. With or without rap.

  105. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    One with a frequency that’s inately understood
    _______________________
    *Universal co-sign*

    And a lot of people call bullshit on that, or say it’s a pretentious idea. But….they’re just wrong lol

  106. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    tariq > nas > hov tho.

    & yes, i’m very serious.

    continue…

  107. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay-Z sells ice to Eskimos.

    Nas paints Rembrandts.

  108. cOLD Says:

    How can niggas listen to a song like pussy kills and be on the fence about who’s the GOAT…

  109. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    I will say in art there is something magical or spiritual if you will that happens in the studio.
    ==============================
    I can agree with this tho.

    There’s a different intent behind the music and I think Nas’ music lends itself to a more spiritual vibe because the messages he puts out there are constructed to teach as well as entertain.

    Jay’s shit has a different effect on people. It’s more about him highlighting his lyrical expertise or boasting about his lifestyle.

    Jay is Self Made Vol. 1 for real for real.

    But the lack of spirituality or reluctance to talk about the greater picture (or acknowledge that there are things greater then his self) is what holds me back from putting Jay-Z in the same category as Nas.

    There’s a self righteousness to Jay’s music that isn’t endearing.

  110. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show

  111. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay-Z says it in his book.

    When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.

    He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.

  112. Tong Po Flo Says:

    Erykah Badu

    ^ Yessir, you check out this new tape

    hulkshare.com/qta2dk8qtdqc

  113. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Jay-Z is a hustler and Nas is a true artist.

    Nas was dropping classics at 16, Jay-Z was selling drugs to his late 20s.

    If Nas never sold big, he’d still be rapping.

    If Jay-Z never sold big, he would still be rich. With or without rap.
    ^^^

    Well done.

  114. cOLD Says:

    tariq as in black thought?… his name can def be kicked around in this convo, …but umm (c)WTK.

  115. Captain Planet Says:

    kevfrescura de talco Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show

    ———————–

    Debatable.

    A lot of people are not enamored by Jay-Z motion-lacking, Bono-esque performance style.

    In a Nas show, people are just overwhelmed by being in the presence of God Himself.

    And Nas performs with A LOT more energy.

  116. Tong Po Flo Says:

    Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.

    Cause without money, there is no argument.

    ^ pretty much

  117. Casket Face Says:

    Jay-Z and Nas

    are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto

    both niggas got dope reasons for going in.

  118. cOLD Says:

    kevfrescura de talco Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show

    ^ one mic my nigga. Fuck all the explosions sparkles and other distractions.

  119. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Jay-Z says it in his book.

    When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.

    He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.
    ==========================================
    I never believed him tho.

    There’s a level of arrogance & ego to Jay-Z that won’t let him quit and he’s been accepted as the GOAT by alot of people already.

    I can’t see him leaving after one album when there was so much left to be accomplished.

    I don’t think Jay-Z honestly thinks there’s a better MC alive then him…still. That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.

  120. Captain Planet Says:

    Casket Face Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Jay-Z and Nas

    are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto

    both niggas got dope reasons for going in.

    ————————-

    If Prof X wasn’t paralyzed he would be like God.

    Kinda like Superman without the Krypto weakness.

  121. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    Bono-esque
    ______________________
    LOL!

  122. Tong Po Flo Says:

    ^ one mic my nigga. Fuck all the explosions sparkles and other distractions.

    *chuckles*

  123. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.
    _________________________________
    “I use it as my gas so they say that I’m gassed/
    But without I’d be last so I ought to last.” -Jay Z’s fountain of youth

  124. Captain Planet Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Jay-Z says it in his book.

    When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.

    He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.
    ==========================================
    I never believed him tho.

    There’s a level of arrogance & ego to Jay-Z that won’t let him quit and he’s been accepted as the GOAT by alot of people already.

    I can’t see him leaving after one album when there was so much left to be accomplished.

    I don’t think Jay-Z honestly thinks there’s a better MC alive then him…still. That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.

    ———————

    I feel what you’re saying but from where he was coming from I truly believed him.

    It struck me like the reason he said didn’t smoke weed at first.

    In the hood pot smokers were seen as workers, niggas on the corners.

    In the grand scheme of things, rappers are workers.

    Moguls get the money while rappers do the work.

    But you’re right I think the only thing preventing him from going that route was the ego boost of being famous and regarded as the best.

  125. Captain Planet Says:

    Albert Findsdimes Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Bono-esque
    ______________________
    LOL!

    ——————-

    Lol!

    It’s funny cus it’s true.

    Jay-Z first made the comparison himself.

  126. cOLD Says:

    And Nas performs with A LOT more energy

    youtube.com/watch?v=qnJudnlcCKM

    ^ this shit was live as fuck

  127. Captain Planet Says:

    cOLD Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    And Nas performs with A LOT more energy

    youtube.com/watch?v=qnJudnlcCKM

    ^ this shit was live as fuck

    ————–

    Yo da cold one is playing chess

    The beginning of this is DMC explaining why Nas >>>>>>>>>>>>>

  128. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    In the grand scheme of things, rappers are workers.

    Moguls get the money while rappers do the work.
    ===============================
    Which is why he was gonna get rid of Dame & Biggs at some point.

    He’s always gone a long way to make sure he’s perceived as this awkward genius who made something out of nothing. A hustler who had the life he wanted before he ever got a record deal. The rare rapper who who writes about the life he really lives and is his own boss.

  129. gramMasta Says:

    # Vincent Van Dro Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    We Off Timbs

    Oh word Ye you rockin’ Timbs?

    We back on Timbs everyone … you heard it here first aight

    ^ lololo

    * salutes *

  130. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Nas Made You Look Live in NY Full Explicit Version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That shit got me charged up right quick lol.

  131. Captain Planet Says:

    Yo Nas murk/murdered that Remix verse.

    Jadakiss and Luda had proper verses but I remember I STILL used to skip to Nas’s

  132. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Copped your shit, now I break weed up on it….

  133. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Luda wit the cornrolls >>>>>>

  134. Casket Face Says:

    Captain Planet Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Casket Face Says:
    June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Jay-Z and Nas

    are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto

    both niggas got dope reasons for going in.

    ————————-

    If Prof X wasn’t paralyzed he would be like God.

    Kinda like Superman without the Krypto weakness.

    ^^^

    I know Kelis and Carmen put Nas in the wheelchair

    Magneto keep expendable hoes that help him win

  135. Casket Face Says:

    Lil Wayne ft. Kidd Kidd, Gudda Gudda, T Streets & Mack Maine – My Birthday

    ^^^

    yeah you lost brah

  136. Captain Planet Says:

    ” Like Pun said ‘ YOU AIN’T EVEN EN MI CLASA! “

  137. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    It’s funny cus it’s true.
    __________________________
    They’re both like this to me

    *Is Bono/Jay Z*

    *Buys heaters for my neighborhood during winter*

    *The cheap kind*

  138. Captain Planet Says:

    I know Kelis and Carmen put Nas in the wheelchair

    Magneto keep expendable hoes that help him win

    ——————-

    Lol!!!

  139. Casket Face Says:

    From the ultimate Nas fan who’s fought in county jail twice over this discussion
    as a GROWN MAN now…

    youtube.com/watch?v=HyTxsTiFFq4

    This nigga won

  140. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    ” Like Pun said ‘ YOU AIN’T EVEN EN MI CLASA! “
    ^^^

    The energy in that room during that performance…you can feel that shit thru the monitor.

  141. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    Hey Tong Po Flo it was File Not Found on the Erykah. What was it anyway?

  142. gramMasta Says:

    on da real i listen to nas & jay music a lot

    but not as much as ghostface’s music tho

    cobra clutch-ghost>>>>>>

  143. cOLD Says:

    casket hov danced on that no doubt…

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