Lil Wayne ft. Kidd Kidd, Gudda Gudda, T Streets & Mack Maine – My Birthday

An unreleased joint reportedly from the Dedication 3 sessions that didn’t make the project. And Dedication 3 wasn’t all that good anyways, so I’ll let you do that math.
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Previously: Lil Wayne – “Nightmares Of The Bottom” (Preview)











June 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Nas = GOAT
Big = GOAT
Jay = GOAT
Niggas will ack like Nas’ incessant contradictions and artists Mishandlings(I’m sure this ain’t the right way to word it) never happened or like BIG wasn’t makin shit up sometimes and sending sublims…
Let that boy cook it ain’t his fault that niggas can’t fuck wit him wit the wordplay, flow or delivery….. Lol
June 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
$WonDough$ can hang with any of these dudes and sum…Even Lil Wayne
GET LACED
June 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Nas = GOAT
Big = GOAT
Jay = GOAT
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I wouldn’t have cosigned the 3rd until I hear “So Ghetto”
The Nas stannism blinds most from the greatness Hov stores like water in a camel’s hump.
June 10th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
$WonDough$ will be able to hang with the GOATs….just watch….matter of fact…listen…
GET LACED
June 10th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
SPITGAME Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
^^^
realist shit ever commented
*daps*
June 10th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
If u would have told me in 1996 that jay z would be where he is today I would’ve kindly told u to go fuck yourself.I thought jay was trying too hard to personify that mafioso image on that first album
June 10th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
But goddamn my nigga I think your secretly Jungle… I have never met anyone with as much disdain for one of the GOAT hip hop performers as you… You go as far as to get mad at niggas for appreciating the music and business acumen like he ain’t set the bar and do push ups on it damn near by himself since the late 90′s into the new millennia..
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Me? Mad?
Not at all.
And his music as well as his business acumen are kinda overrated.
I just call it like I see it.
“it ain’t his fault that niggas can’t fuck wit him wit the wordplay, flow or delivery”
Amp exists to counteract bullshit like what was written above.
Jay-z is not perfect. He is not hands down the best MC of his generation. He’s not the illest business mind in Hip-Hop.
He just wants you to believe he is and I see some of you have been fooled.
June 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Is it really that hard to believe that I can say & stand by all the shit I say about Jay-Z and still (somewhat) respect and appreciate his music?
June 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The Nas stannism blinds most from the greatness Hov stores like water in a camel’s hump.
^^^
smh… It’s True (c) Ease
The Nahright C section elitists have def strengthened my stance on dudes music… Hatred only makes my opinion stronger… I’m rootin for the Heat to win it all too for the EXACT same reason… But here’s the gotcha… Those guys are actually EXTREMELY talented… So much so that their comparing certain players to Jordan… So the hate really isn’t even warranted it’s just cool to do smh… Makes me think of one of those GOATS I mentioned
June 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Hatred only makes my opinion stronger
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If you think any criticism of Jay-Z is “hatred”, you aren’t really paying attention.
June 10th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Jay-z is not perfect.
^^^
Of course he’s not…
“I’m far from being GOD but I work GODDAMN hard” (c) Do I Have To?
But just that line above illustrates what I mean… Niggas will be HARD PRESSED to play wit them words and them flows and EVOLVE as a musician and person regardless of whatever image niggas have of em like the boy Hov…
June 10th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Amp…
Let’s call a spade a spade…
That’s hatred what you be spewin dog lol…
And I’m not judging if you hate niggas you hate niggas… But damn if I just can’t understand it… Nas and Sigel even know what it is lol
June 10th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
no they didn’t.
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Yeah they did, like because P’s not a billionaire and he did a bid, he’s automatically losing.
Let go of the Camel’s teet.
> no nigga…the dude gave you 2 examples of hov winning & becuz you’re stannin for p you used that as a medium between the two to pitch your disdain.
who in their right mind only thinks of one way to win? foh!
you stay on that spinster shit.
June 10th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
The image of perfection Jay-Z tries to give off is what makes me wanna poke holes in his facade.
Nobody is perfect.
The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
> no nigga…the dude gave you 2 examples of hov winning & becuz you’re stannin for p you used that as a medium between the two to pitch your disdain.
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Who was talking about Jay-Z though?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
jay z did copy a lot of cats.he tried to be puff on vol 1, dmx bought the street shit back,hov throwing on baNdanas.more Im sure.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
That’s hatred what you be spewin dog lol…
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Only to someone who only sees things one way.
Give me an example of this hatred.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
i don’t think hov is perfect at all.
but i’d be a fool to think that dude doesn’t have a strong understanding of his field w/most of the bases BEEN covered.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…
I’ve heard them say the rocked out to the OB4CL2 more, because Rae was back but if it wasn’t that or BP3 it was Cudi rockin…
June 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Funny shit is, I’m prolly more knowledgeable about Jay’s come up/discog then most.
NahRight.com
If you ain’t stanning, you’re hating.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…
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You need to get out more.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Who was talking about Jay-Z though?
> lol! dude you started this P winning diatribe with.
but as always…you gotta make contrast for a man you know damn well earned his bright.
pozjic
June 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
if it wasn’t that or BP3 it was Cudi rockin…
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And what hood are you from?
Cause niggas around here don’t know what the fuck a Cudi is.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Vol. 1 gets no love
Some of Jay’s best ever songs.
Streets Is Watching, Intro, Imaginary Player, Where I’m From, Friend or Foe 98
good album
June 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
I have YET to hear anyone outside of the C Section call BP3 wack yet, too…
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TBH though: I’ve yet to hear anyone talk in person about BP3 outside of the C-Section.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.
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I’ve noticed this too …
I even think the Beyonce marriage is a premeditated act rather than true love, but I ain’t hating on that tho.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Even the Nas shots are hilarious
Yo what’s the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
BP3 is wack for real tho.
I’m sure Hov thinks so.
He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.
Do they still love me? Can I still pull this off?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
As soon as someone tells you something is perfect, subconsciously your eyes and mind begin looking for the flaws.
It’s human nature.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media
> lol! niggas act like hov has to be personable enough for their viewing standards now? all the while listening to his music with a more satisfactory over than a dissatisfactory under?
whose world is this?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
The fact that Jay-Z is so pre-meditated, so controlled that he never allows himself to be a real person in the media…that shit bothers me and makes it harder to connect with him on a basic human level.
^^^
LOL… So now he not even himself in his interviews an stuff… Who he tryna “copy” in his interviews?
I mean I could try to dig up the pure hate that you have typed about this man but it’s never been that serious… I’ll tell you what tho more times than not during lurk your talkin about how “wack” the niggas albums is or his “copying” or whatever… Come on b… I ain’t never hear you talk about Nas’ “wacknes” or stagnation or P’s… They perfect? I mean I thought songs like “Lost Ones” or “You must love me” painted good pictures of his imperfections…
I’m just sayin… We gotta do better
June 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Random Axe got some ill beats.
But the verses are too simple for me.
But Casket ain’t lied, it sounds like Detroit is coming with some heat this year.
I already like Boldy (n)
And out in Cali, I’ve seen random hipster white boys and Mexicans shouting out Danny Brown (I ain’t a fan)
June 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.
> about 5 millie in tenuous-ness.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
BP3 is wack for real tho.
^^^
Apologists will try their best to convince you otherwise but that album is a low point in Jay-Z’s career.
Best Of Both Worlds was better then that shit.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Hov is just as flawed as the rest of us.
*gulp* Even Nas tho … maybe more so, dealing with being a child prodigy / genius and alla dat
June 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
And im from PA and be EVERYWHERE… No one yet from outside the c section talked that shit… You know why? Cuz you CANNOT front on what this nigga be spittin… *Puts on What We Talkin Bout*
June 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I think the Hov shots come from the fact he never seems to fully be himself, there’s always someone else’s wave he’s riding. And then he turns and claims to be the best when it took years of biting to get to his level.
But Jay got dope songs in the catalogue still.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
He was clearly riding other niggas waves, it felt like he was at a tenous part in his career.
> about 5 millie in tenuous-ness.
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*blank stare*
June 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
thas an ill buy out for a so called sub par, past his prime emcee.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Even the Nas shots are hilarious
Yo what’s the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?
>how is that a shot at Nas?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
I ain’t never hear you talk about Nas’ “wacknes” or stagnation or P’s… They perfect? I mean I thought songs like “Lost Ones” or “You must love me” painted good pictures of his imperfections…
I’m just sayin… We gotta do better
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I’ve shitted on Nas & P before. I’m quite sure of it.
But everyone shits on P & Nas. It’s too easy.
But let me say something about Jay-Z and all kinds of fans/stans come outta the wood work to defend the Camel’s honor.
100 on 1. Those are the kinda odds I’m used to on NahRight.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Niggas will listen to a album FULL of drivel (Goblin, He’s Gay) and tell me BP3 is wack… Whatevers whatev
June 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
I think the Hov shots come from the fact he never seems to fully be himself, there’s always someone else’s wave he’s riding. And then he turns and claims to be the best when it took years of biting to get to his level.
>.word to the brothers.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Lol comparing the bar set for Jay-Z to those set for Tyler the Creator and Lil B is damn right blasphemous.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Goblin isn’t drivel and BP3 IS wack
*still co-signs your three headed goat theory*
June 10th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
And im from PA and be EVERYWHERE… No one yet from outside the c section talked that shit… You know why? Cuz you CANNOT front on what this nigga be spittin… *Puts on What We Talkin Bout*
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There are maybe 3-4 songs on there that stand up to the rest of Jay-Z’s discog.
But to seriously listen to BP3 front to back for enjoyments sake?
Can’t do it.
To much ego stroking and holier then thou posturing for me…even for Jay-Z.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
I just couldn’t listen to BP3 because it was wack.
It felt forced and uninspired.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
But BP3 doesn’t define Hov tho.
Nas has had subpar albums and Biggie probably would have if he had time.
Once again … we are all human.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
how is that a shot at Nas?
^^^
“like 30 to 40 grand cocksucka beat it”
Jay’s whole existence was shots at Nas back then
June 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
But let me say something about Jay-Z and all kinds of fans/ stans come outta the wood work to defend the Camel’s honor.
>stop all ya bloodclot cryin!
it ain so much defending hov as it is reading ya rebuttals that jus come off forced.
you can have ya opinion, no doubt…
but sayin that hov isn’t a main gear in the industry machine is wyle erroneous & irrational.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
We Off Timbs
Oh word Ye you rockin’ Timbs?
We back on Timbs everyone … you heard it here first aight
June 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
BP3 is wack for real tho.
^^^
word
Why are people even still debating
Niggas in denial b
June 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Jay’s whole existence was shots at Nas back then
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Lol it’s true.
I’m sure it still irks Jay-Z … the love Nas gets.
Jay-Z works and hustles his ass off, selling millions of records, ascending to critical acclaim on occasion …
But he will never get the same kind of love Nas gets which will never wane based on the impact of the classic Illmatic which didn’t even sell that well.
” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
June 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
To much ego stroking and holier then thou posturing for me…even for Jay-Z.
> but you’ve been listening to WYLE rappers do this for YEARS! enough to be either desensitized or accept it as a normal function.
but when its hov…you can’t listen?
hater
June 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
But BP3 doesn’t define Hov tho.
^^^
It doesn’t and I know he can make a better album. His post BP3 verses have proven that he’s still sharp when he wants to be.
BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.
When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.
I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
^^^
deaded
June 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
but when its hov…you can’t listen?
^^^
Hov talks about his superiority to every human on Earth almost exclusively.
You’re great. I get it. What else?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.
When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.
I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
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Co-sign.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
but look whom i’m choppin it with.
you was down on life, ready to join the army when bp3 dropped.
of course you wasn’t tryna hear hov.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Hov talks about his superiority to every human on Earth almost exclusively.
You’re great. I get it. What else?
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Lol!!!!
June 10th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
^^^
He was really trying to convince people not to like Nas on “The Blueprint 2″.
Shit seemed mad corny.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
If hip hop really did die, Jay would switch to rock or country in a heartbeat. That doesn’t mean he hasn’t made some of the dopest hip hop ever though.
But I mean bragging about dumbing down for sales is kinda the most offensive thing a serious mc could ever say to their audience.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
> he set a bar for himself that garnered mainstream appeal.
he spose to go backwards now cuz you don’t vibe with an album?
smh
June 10th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.
Maybe that’s why we’re falling off.
How many ways can you talk about how great you are, how much money you have, the yay you sell and how many bitches you have?
And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
you was down on life, ready to join the army when bp3 dropped.
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Figuring things out, looking at options, reevaluating your status in the greater scheme of things does not = down on life.
It = I smoke a lot of weed. A LOT.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
” One hot album every ten year average ” wasn’t a diss, it was a statement of exasperation
^^^
He was really trying to convince people not to like Nas on “The Blueprint 2″.
Shit seemed mad corny.
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” Everybody’s like, ‘He’s no item. Please don’t like him. “
June 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
How many ways can you talk about how great you are, how much money you have, the yay you sell and how many bitches you have?
^^^
If you’re clever enough, you can make a career outta that shit.
Ask Jay-Z.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?
> repetition is to mainstream what air is to humans.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
A piece of me dies when I turn on a Hip-Hop radio station and ALL I hear is techno …
The end is near yall …
Yall kids are gonna be taking e pill smoothies, listening to repetitive beats of nothing like ” Pops, why you still listen to drug dealer nursery rhymes old man “
June 10th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
And even if the answer is infinite … how long can the mainstream remain entertained by it?
> repetition is to mainstream what air is to humans.
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Agreed.
But trends changing quicker than the wind also are synonymous with mainstream as well.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.
^^^
Nah, it’s been 11 years since Supreme Clientele and the rest of hip hop still hasn’t caught up.
There’s still room for improvement.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
It = I smoke a lot of weed. A LOT.
> how you smoke so much but always got a problem with hov?
weed a happy drug yo.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
If you guys aren’t noticing the Techno Takeover yall aren’t paying attention.
I turn on Power 106 out here in Cali and it’s ALL techno. I swear.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
But trends changing quicker than the wind also are synonymous with mainstream as well.
> even moreso with hip hop.
how long clifford been sitting this time around?
now he acting like he frank lucas about to be released in the 90s n shit.
hip hop ain waiting for no one to play catch up.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Hip-hop topics have BEEN tired for a while tho.
^^^
Nah, it’s been 11 years since Supreme Clientele and the rest of hip hop still hasn’t caught up.
There’s still room for improvement.
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Skills can continue to develop till the end of the world.
But we need new topics.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
i co-sign BP3 being wack
and applaud Hov’s power of suggestion on the common hip-hop fan
75% of the stuff he constantly mention some how becomes public opinion
June 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Dipped like an oreo cookie
In cold milk, bold silk
Gold-filled cap, wu wear hat,
Low tilt
True islamic
We speak verbal rhyme phonics
Why y’all trying to change this hip hop to technotronics?
June 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
After three months of speculation, Shawty Lo tells AHH that he’s has signed a deal with 50 Cent’s G-Unit Records.
^^^
I don’t get it
Curtis might as well start a new label instead of trying to re-establish the GUnit brand w/ Shawty Lo leading the charge
June 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Erykah Badu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hov
June 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
‘Scuse me
Erykah Badu >>>> Hov
June 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Skills can continue to develop till the end of the world.
But we need new topics.
^^^
That’s why Everyman rap is more popular now then ever before.
The Crack/Cocaine trade isn’t the same as before. More kids are worrying about college then cooking up a brick.
People are into listening to stuff they can actually relate to or listening to fantasy so over the top, you accept it as mindless fiction and have fun with it.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Erykah Badu >>>> Hov
>easily.
she got a hemi.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Soon, it’s gonna be like when pop and R&B ran shit …
When the biggest deal for rappers was to get on J.Lo’s single or Usher’s
Rappers are about to be begging DJ’s to get on a their tracks
Sooner than Later if something drastic doesn’t happen.
But hey, then ALL artists will be underground and the quality of music will increase
June 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Curtis might as well start a new label instead of trying to re-establish the GUnit brand w/ Shawty Lo leading the charge
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Haters w Yayo, Fif, LO & Roscoe Dash >>>>>>>>>>
Shawty Lo is certified in the streets of the A and is well connected in the South.
Less work getting him going then it would take getting a brand new artist popping.
And Lo gives G-Unit that Southern component they lost when 50 benched Young Buck.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
That’s why Everyman rap is more popular now then ever before.
The Crack/Cocaine trade isn’t the same as before. More kids are worrying about college then cooking up a brick.
People are into listening to stuff they can actually relate to or listening to fantasy so over the top, you accept it as mindless fiction and have fun with it.
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It’s true (c) b-ease
June 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
she got a hemi.
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“Where is the pussy magnet?” -Borat
June 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
you know what i find the MOST interesting about these convos of ours…
we act like we actually know these niggas… like we can call hov or nas or p up for a drink and kick it in the islands with em…
like we they family member or something…
when the fact is.. we dont know these niggas… so who are we to say what them niggas is REALLY like.. we dont know their minds.. we dont know their thought process… but for some reason niggas ALWAYS wanna make their arguments from this standpoint…
case in point:
BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.
When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.
I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
#thatisall
June 10th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Remixznflow Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
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cool story bro (c) Someone cool
But these are artist, not the neighborhood garbage man ( Fuck you Jerz )
They put their heart and souls on these records, who can’t hide who you are or conversely who you want to be.
You didn’t need to be Courtney Love or a registered psychiatrist to know Kurt Cobain was a tortured soul.
*Calmly Lights Cigar*
June 10th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
when the fact is.. we dont know these niggas… so who are we to say what them niggas is REALLY like.. we dont know their minds.. we dont know their thought process… but for some reason niggas ALWAYS wanna make their arguments from this standpoint…
case in point:
BP3 defines Jay-Z’s mindset at the time and at the time, he was willing to completely switch it up in an attempt to sell records.
When Nas did the unexpected, it never seemed contrived or forced. He makes the moves and music he wants to make.
I always feel like Jay-Z is chasing the next big single and trying to sell x amount of records.
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That’s how I FEEL.
It’s my opinion.
Y’all the ones who read what I write and get aggy like I offended a family member.
June 10th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
But these are *artists, not the neighborhood garbage man ( Fuck you Jerz )
They put their heart and souls on these records, *you can’t hide who you are or conversely who you want to be.
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Fixed.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements.
Jay’s greatness is based in identifiable skills (his flow, wordplay, etc.) and his fans arguments mirror that. In that they’re based on countless supporting points that lend an air of phoniness in their quantity instead of support.
It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
June 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
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I BEEN telling niggas Nas is the David Copperfield of this shit!
June 10th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
cOLD Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.
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Eh … it’s substantial.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements.
Jay’s greatness is based in identifiable skills (his flow, wordplay, etc.) and his fans arguments mirror that. In that they’re based on countless supporting points that lend an air of phoniness in their quantity instead of support.
It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
^^^
Like Nas’s greatness stems from something unquantifiable, as he doesn’t have the flow or wordplay to warrant an argument of his status in the game based on skill.
FOH wit that bullshit B.
Balanced Content. Thought Provoking Lyrics. Unique Concepts.
These things (along with others) are what make Nas great.
I don’t believe in Magic.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Nas > Hov tho. Not by a lot.
> agreed.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.
Cause without money, there is no argument.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I don’t believe in Magic.
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Lol
I agree Nas has all that stuff you said, and they’re among the reasons I think he’s better than Jay Z. A lot better. But I stand by the statement that he has an intangible greatness. Dude is a griot.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I don’t believe in Magic.
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Lol!!!!
I will say in art there is something magical or spiritual if you will that happens in the studio.
Quincy Jones has a sign in his studio that says, ” Leave room for God ”
I think he knows a thing or two about this biz.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
^ I get where you going… and I kinda agree. But it’s more like analog vs digital. One with a frequency that’s inately understood, the other program that looks and sounds good withouth the harmonious attachment… Jay Z is binary rap. lol
June 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.
Cause without money, there is no argument.
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I wouldn’t go that far tho …
This is art but it is also a business …
Something has to be said about captivating the imagination of the masses and being commercially successful
June 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Nas music has an intangible greatness and his fans arguments mirror that a lot. In that they seem to have no reasoning, and be vague unsupported statements
> yo sun…
this is funny as fuck!
June 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
youtu.be/ECRZqlevftQ
this boxing intro >
June 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
cOLD Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
It’s like magic versus mechanisms. Which do you prefer?
^ I get where you going… and I kinda agree. But it’s more like analog vs digital. One with a frequency that’s inately understood, the other program that looks and sounds good withouth the harmonious attachment… Jay Z is binary rap. lol
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I see where yall are going …
I’ve said this before but the difference between Jay-Z and Nas?
Jay-Z is a hustler and Nas is a true artist.
Nas was dropping classics at 16, Jay-Z was selling drugs to his late 20s.
If Nas never sold big, he’d still be rapping.
If Jay-Z never sold big, he would still be rich. With or without rap.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
One with a frequency that’s inately understood
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*Universal co-sign*
And a lot of people call bullshit on that, or say it’s a pretentious idea. But….they’re just wrong lol
June 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
tariq > nas > hov tho.
& yes, i’m very serious.
continue…
June 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Jay-Z sells ice to Eskimos.
Nas paints Rembrandts.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
How can niggas listen to a song like pussy kills and be on the fence about who’s the GOAT…
June 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I will say in art there is something magical or spiritual if you will that happens in the studio.
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I can agree with this tho.
There’s a different intent behind the music and I think Nas’ music lends itself to a more spiritual vibe because the messages he puts out there are constructed to teach as well as entertain.
Jay’s shit has a different effect on people. It’s more about him highlighting his lyrical expertise or boasting about his lifestyle.
Jay is Self Made Vol. 1 for real for real.
But the lack of spirituality or reluctance to talk about the greater picture (or acknowledge that there are things greater then his self) is what holds me back from putting Jay-Z in the same category as Nas.
There’s a self righteousness to Jay’s music that isn’t endearing.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show
June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Jay-Z says it in his book.
When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.
He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Erykah Badu
^ Yessir, you check out this new tape
hulkshare.com/qta2dk8qtdqc
June 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Jay-Z is a hustler and Nas is a true artist.
Nas was dropping classics at 16, Jay-Z was selling drugs to his late 20s.
If Nas never sold big, he’d still be rapping.
If Jay-Z never sold big, he would still be rich. With or without rap.
^^^
Well done.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
tariq as in black thought?… his name can def be kicked around in this convo, …but umm (c)WTK.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show
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Debatable.
A lot of people are not enamored by Jay-Z motion-lacking, Bono-esque performance style.
In a Nas show, people are just overwhelmed by being in the presence of God Himself.
And Nas performs with A LOT more energy.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Niggas use $$$ in their argument that Jay is a better MC then Nas.
Cause without money, there is no argument.
^ pretty much
June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Jay-Z and Nas
are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto
both niggas got dope reasons for going in.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
hov stage show>>>>>nas stage show
^ one mic my nigga. Fuck all the explosions sparkles and other distractions.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Jay-Z says it in his book.
When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.
He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.
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I never believed him tho.
There’s a level of arrogance & ego to Jay-Z that won’t let him quit and he’s been accepted as the GOAT by alot of people already.
I can’t see him leaving after one album when there was so much left to be accomplished.
I don’t think Jay-Z honestly thinks there’s a better MC alive then him…still. That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Casket Face Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Jay-Z and Nas
are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto
both niggas got dope reasons for going in.
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If Prof X wasn’t paralyzed he would be like God.
Kinda like Superman without the Krypto weakness.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Bono-esque
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LOL!
June 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
^ one mic my nigga. Fuck all the explosions sparkles and other distractions.
*chuckles*
June 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.
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“I use it as my gas so they say that I’m gassed/
But without I’d be last so I ought to last.” -Jay Z’s fountain of youth
June 10th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Jay-Z says it in his book.
When he was making Reasonable Doubt, he expected it to be his last album.
He really wanted to be in a position to be like Russell Simmons.
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I never believed him tho.
There’s a level of arrogance & ego to Jay-Z that won’t let him quit and he’s been accepted as the GOAT by alot of people already.
I can’t see him leaving after one album when there was so much left to be accomplished.
I don’t think Jay-Z honestly thinks there’s a better MC alive then him…still. That ego is what allowed him to run it for 7 straight summers.
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I feel what you’re saying but from where he was coming from I truly believed him.
It struck me like the reason he said didn’t smoke weed at first.
In the hood pot smokers were seen as workers, niggas on the corners.
In the grand scheme of things, rappers are workers.
Moguls get the money while rappers do the work.
But you’re right I think the only thing preventing him from going that route was the ego boost of being famous and regarded as the best.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Albert Findsdimes Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Bono-esque
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LOL!
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Lol!
It’s funny cus it’s true.
Jay-Z first made the comparison himself.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
And Nas performs with A LOT more energy
youtube.com/watch?v=qnJudnlcCKM
^ this shit was live as fuck
June 10th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
cOLD Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
And Nas performs with A LOT more energy
youtube.com/watch?v=qnJudnlcCKM
^ this shit was live as fuck
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Yo da cold one is playing chess
The beginning of this is DMC explaining why Nas >>>>>>>>>>>>>
June 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
In the grand scheme of things, rappers are workers.
Moguls get the money while rappers do the work.
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Which is why he was gonna get rid of Dame & Biggs at some point.
He’s always gone a long way to make sure he’s perceived as this awkward genius who made something out of nothing. A hustler who had the life he wanted before he ever got a record deal. The rare rapper who who writes about the life he really lives and is his own boss.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
# Vincent Van Dro Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
We Off Timbs
Oh word Ye you rockin’ Timbs?
We back on Timbs everyone … you heard it here first aight
^ lololo
* salutes *
June 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Nas Made You Look Live in NY Full Explicit Version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That shit got me charged up right quick lol.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Yo Nas murk/murdered that Remix verse.
Jadakiss and Luda had proper verses but I remember I STILL used to skip to Nas’s
June 10th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Copped your shit, now I break weed up on it….
June 10th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Luda wit the cornrolls >>>>>>
June 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Captain Planet Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Casket Face Says:
June 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Jay-Z and Nas
are like comparing Professor Xavier and Magneto
both niggas got dope reasons for going in.
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If Prof X wasn’t paralyzed he would be like God.
Kinda like Superman without the Krypto weakness.
^^^
I know Kelis and Carmen put Nas in the wheelchair
Magneto keep expendable hoes that help him win
June 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Lil Wayne ft. Kidd Kidd, Gudda Gudda, T Streets & Mack Maine – My Birthday
^^^
yeah you lost brah
June 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
” Like Pun said ‘ YOU AIN’T EVEN EN MI CLASA! “
June 10th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
It’s funny cus it’s true.
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They’re both like this to me
*Is Bono/Jay Z*
*Buys heaters for my neighborhood during winter*
*The cheap kind*
June 10th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I know Kelis and Carmen put Nas in the wheelchair
Magneto keep expendable hoes that help him win
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Lol!!!
June 10th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
From the ultimate Nas fan who’s fought in county jail twice over this discussion
as a GROWN MAN now…
youtube.com/watch?v=HyTxsTiFFq4
This nigga won
June 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
” Like Pun said ‘ YOU AIN’T EVEN EN MI CLASA! “
^^^
The energy in that room during that performance…you can feel that shit thru the monitor.
June 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Hey Tong Po Flo it was File Not Found on the Erykah. What was it anyway?
June 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
on da real i listen to nas & jay music a lot
but not as much as ghostface’s music tho
cobra clutch-ghost>>>>>>
June 10th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
casket hov danced on that no doubt…
June 11th, 2011 at 10:35 am
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