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  1. D. Billz Says:

    456 Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Didnt that nigga have a price on his head? (ll)

    ^he was an extortionist’s dream

    ^ Yo it’s some modern-day poet laureates on NR.

  2. G7 Says:

    rumour is after the 5 mic effort Bun is naming his next album Trillmatic…smh.

  3. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    rumour is after the 5 mic effort Bun is naming his next album Trillmatic…
    ==============================================
    He should run with that.

  4. THE-XFACTA Says:

    G7 Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    rumour is after the 5 mic effort Bun is naming his next album Trillmatic…smh.

    —-

    Has anyone heard this album? Is it any good? Is it worth 5 mics? I have been listening to Bun for a lonnnnng time and he’s not a great lyrcist to me but for a southern mc’s he’s above avg.

  5. D. Billz Says:

    b-ease Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Is this the guy Billz used to always rep?

    ^ *late pass* Yezzirrrr

  6. b-ease Says:

    what is Cuban linx without ghost?

    ^^
    I don’t agree with Rae > Nas. But I’ve heard the argument above before, and I think its kind of asinie. The LP was billed as “featuring Ghostface Killer”. It was never intended to be seen as a solo album in the traditonal sense.

  7. Suaveebolaetc.etc. Says:

    co-sign
    On The Run (Video Version) >>>>>>

    ^^

    The vid for Ill Street Blues was super-gully – ol boy sniffin in the bar and whatnot.

    Speaking of old videos – The Beatnuts – Reign Of The Tec>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Those cats had the Holy Trinity in that vid.

    Guns
    Coke
    Helicopters

    Brett Ratner was whyling…

  8. b-ease Says:

    asinine > asinie

  9. b Says:

    cosign amp on niggas hatin in harlem. they tested him every given chance.himand shamgod got robbed together.nigga snuffed him at the carnival etc etc

  10. mcb Says:

    yeah i mean he’s gonna keep the trill theme, nwhat’d you expect?
    trillprint?
    trill end theory?

  11. fuck boy music Says:

    Twista had hits.

  12. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    # fuck boy music Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    It was Written > Illmatic

    Illmatic is the most overrated album of all time.

    ^Whoever sent the nigga needs they whopped.

  13. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Troubleshooter1900 Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    # fuck boy music Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    It was Written > Illmatic

    Illmatic is the most overrated album of all time.

    ^Whoever sent the nigga needs they ass whopped

    *fixed*

  14. mcb Says:

    ill street blues w/o video is ill enough.
    i still play Kool G Rap
    *not embarassed*

    mafioso shit from the getgo

  15. fuck boy music Says:

    The butter shoes ad is hilarious.

    What faggot won’t fuck a bitch because of her shoes.

  16. b Says:

    fuck boy music Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
    Twista had hits.

    ^^^*serious jones after murda mooks introduces hisself laugh*

  17. Mook Says:

    rumour is after the 5 mic effort Bun is naming his next album Trillmatic…smh.

    —-

    Has anyone heard this album? Is it any good? Is it worth 5 mics? I have been listening to Bun for a lonnnnng time and he’s not a great lyrcist to me but for a southern mc’s he’s above avg.

    ^
    Have you not heard that terrible single “Trillionaire”? That one song already voids Trill OG from really deserving 5 mics. Who even takes The Source reviews serious anyway?
    real review: pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14542-trill-og/

  18. b-ease Says:

    The Blueprint > Reasonable Doubt

    Reasonable Doubt is another overrated album.

    ^^
    Co-sign the first point. While I wouldnt call RD overrated because it really is a great album, jay was still not a fully formed artist on that. It’s kind of derivitive. A mash up of Rae, BIG, and Camp Lo. JayZ didnt become the JayZ we know and love (ll) until Hard Knock Life.

  19. Troyvul Says:

    rumour is after the 5 mic effort Bun is naming his next album Trillmatic…smh.
    ^
    LMAO

  20. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    what high profile rapper from harlem hasn’t gotten snuffed? lol

  21. cOLD Says:

    I don’t agree with Rae > Nas. But I’ve heard the argument above before, and I think its kind of asinie. The LP was billed as “featuring Ghostface Killer”. It was never intended to be seen as a solo album in the traditonal sense.

    ^ the point was, could Rae of held that album down for dolo?

  22. Suaveebolaetc.etc. Says:

    Supreme Clientele vs. OB4CL. My head is already frozen.

    ^^
    Not even one of those chess playing super computers could call that one….

  23. cOLD Says:

    what high profile rapper from harlem hasn’t gotten snuffed? lol

    ^ damned good point, niggas in harlem that fly stamp, but to the goonies they are food.

  24. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    could Rae of held that album down for dolo?

    >no

  25. landlord Says:

    kevfrescura de talco Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    what high profile rapper from harlem hasn’t gotten snuffed? lol

    ———-

    good point

  26. b Says:

    webstar lol

  27. b-ease Says:

    ^ the point was, could Rae of held that album down for dolo?

    ^^
    Looking at his work after and up unitl Cuban Linx 2, I’d have to say no. But while that may knock Rae down some notches on the GOAT/legend list, it shouldnt affect one’s view of that LP in and of itself.

  28. abortatron Says:

    ghostface > raekwon
    ^^^^

    i thought this was somewhat unanimous

    ^
    hold up.
    people were telling me that
    raekwon > nas (and making a case for it)
    then i say
    ghost > rae
    and thats unanimous?
    so by that logic … ghost is the best rapper ever?

  29. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    The Blueprint > Reasonable Doubt
    =========================
    It breaks my heart to say it but yes…yes it is.

    But The Blueprint owes everything to Reasonable Doubt, Ski & Clark Kent.

  30. b Says:

    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

  31. landlord Says:

    but to the goonies they are food.

    —-

    LOL but true…

    word to 40 Cal vs Loon

  32. G7 Says:

    >>^ the point was, could Rae of held that album down for dolo?

    ^he proved he couldn’t on Immobilarity and Lex Diamond Story. So most likely not.

  33. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    what high profile rapper from harlem hasn’t gotten snuffed? lol
    ===============================================
    This is true.

    The innate flyness in Harlem rappers seems to make niggas violently angry.

  34. landlord Says:

    b Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

    ———–

    Marky Mark

    Ben Affleck

  35. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Suaveebolaetc.etc. Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    Supreme Clientele vs. OB4CL. My head is already frozen.

    ^^
    Not even one of those chess playing super computers could call that one….

    Impossible to choose one

  36. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

    ^

    hol’ up…

  37. cOLD Says:

    Looking at his work after and up unitl Cuban Linx 2, I’d have to say no. But while that may knock Rae down some notches on the GOAT/legend list, it shouldnt affect one’s view of that LP in and of itself.

    ^ oh mos def… I always asked myself If I was stuck on an island and could take 3 things…

    1. illmatic or OB4CL
    2. Rosario Dawson or the Ramirez chick (entourage)
    3. Pound of that piff.

  38. THE-XFACTA Says:

    b Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

    E.D. OG and the Bulldogs

  39. illuminati by nature Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    b Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

    ———–

    Marky Mark

    Ben Affleck

    ***Ed OG used to be dope…Guru was from Boston…Bobby Brown raps, lol

  40. b Says:

    Supreme Clientele vs. OB4CL. My head is already frozen.

    the purple tape influenced more rappers and folks in general.im going with that one.

  41. Big_seth Says:

    I think that going back to different peoples opinion is key in the classic debate.

    Sometimes you need to hear a certain album at a certain time and it hits home like nothing else.

    BP1 needed to come out when it did. It was like the fruition of all the wannabe hustlers tryin to make it. b-ease Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    The Blueprint > Reasonable Doubt

    Reasonable Doubt is another overrated album.

    ^^
    Co-sign the first point. While I wouldnt call RD overrated because it really is a great album, jay was still not a fully formed artist on that. It’s kind of derivitive. A mash up of Rae, BIG, and Camp Lo. JayZ didnt become the JayZ we know and love (ll) until Hard Knock Life.
    ^^

    i kind of agree, but certain songs on RD gave you enough of a glimpse of the real Hov.

  42. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    word to 40 Cal vs Loon
    ==================
    But Loon was a goon to rappers like Big L & Mase.

    I saw him start play fighting with a kid until it ended with him just delivering rib shattering blows while the kid tried to cover up as best he could. My man Mike had the busted lip and everything, walked off looking sick.

    And Chauncey just laughed at him.

  43. G7 Says:

    Reasonable Doubt is not overrated. But Jay did spend a few years convincing people how classic it was in his songs. He made a lot of people go back and listen again.

  44. THE-XFACTA Says:

    abortatron Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    ghostface > raekwon
    ^^^^

    i thought this was somewhat unanimous

    ^
    hold up.
    people were telling me that
    raekwon > nas (and making a case for it)
    then i say
    ghost > rae
    and thats unanimous?
    so by that logic … ghost is the best rapper ever?

    Pretty much

  45. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    The Blueprint > Reasonable Doubt
    ^
    Yup

  46. Suaveebolaetc.etc. Says:

    “So Ghetto” played once >>> It Was Written ( in its entirety )

    ^^

    lol/smh @ land pulling the pin on grenades and rolling them into the room on the low…

  47. b Says:

    Marky Mark

    Ben Affleck

    ***Ed OG used to be dope…Guru was from Boston…Bobby Brown raps, lol

    hahahahaha

  48. el feces loco Says:

    Give us, us free! More than 300,000 citizens have had it with America’s janky azz government. They have declared themselves “sovereign citizens” and they refuse to carry drivers licenses, don’t register the birth of their children or recognize the court system.

    ^^My nigga just did this shit last month, went to court for child support, denounced all his rights under his American name and presented the courts with his new “sovereign” name..judge pushed his next court date back like 2 months.

    His babymomma was pissed.

    *daps the fellow 14th amendment nahtizens*

  49. mcb Says:

    b Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    what high profile rapper comes from boston?
    ^^^
    Ed OG
    Guru
    but most aint that high profile.

    anf fuck Ben Afleck.

    Mark Wahlberg ahahah

  50. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Didn’t Superb ghostwrite most of Supreme Clientele?

    I mean, isn’t this accepted as fact by now?

  51. cOLD Says:

    But Loon was a goon to rappers like Big L & Mase.

    ^ big L, gave the impression he was untouchable… Lemme find out he got punked by Loon?

  52. Big_seth Says:

    ok. BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.

    if you over then illmatic is.

    if you over 40 probably Paid in Full or something.

  53. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Is Twista and Timberland brothers?

  54. abortatron Says:

    what high profile rapper comes from boston?

    ^
    not high profile, but
    mr lif “iphantom >>>>>>>>>>

  55. Carlos Voltron AKA NYJ SB45 Winners Says:

    *Takes Twista off the track*
    *Enjoys song*

  56. b Says:

    But Loon was a goon to rappers like Big L & Mase.

    I saw him start play fighting with a kid until it ended with him just delivering rib shattering blows while the kid tried to cover up as best he could. My man Mike had the busted lip and everything, walked off looking sick.

    And Chauncey just laughed at him.

    once again co sign amp, loon coined the harlem world slogan before anybody.i told niggas the other day this nigga was damn near boxer status with them hands.

  57. cOLD Says:

    Didn’t Superb ghostwrite most of Supreme Clientele?

    I mean, isn’t this accepted as fact by now?

    ^ we’ve been down this road, no and no. A line here and there is not ghost writing, more like creative input.

  58. Big_seth Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    Didn’t Superb ghostwrite most of Supreme Clientele?

    I mean, isn’t this accepted as fact by now?
    ^^

    LIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEESSSSS

    *covers ears and shrieks*

  59. Suaveebolaetc.etc. Says:

    he proved he couldn’t on Immobilarity and Lex Diamond Story. So most likely not.

    ^^

    His ear for beats was lacking (Nas syndrome) but lyrically he was ill on Lex Diamond Story – check the Vatican mixtapes around the time. On decent beats Rae was still hurting ‘em.

  60. Bigspitgame Says:

    The Blueprint > Reasonable Doubt
    ^
    Hell No Sign… Although BP was classic in it’s own right, RD is TIMELESS… And the lyricism and wordplay were unprecedented ie Can I Live, Casmere Thoughts, Regrets, Dead Presidents 1 and 2, Friend Or Foe… And the production was not to be slept on… Although The Blueprint had hotter beats there was still one or two skippables…

  61. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Big_seth Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    ok. BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.

    if you over then illmatic is.

    —-

    I’m in the 30-40 range and I will still go with OB4CL as the best album

  62. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    *dead* @ “bobby brown raps”.

  63. mcb Says:

    cOLD Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
    Didn’t Superb ghostwrite most of Supreme Clientele?

    I mean, isn’t this accepted as fact by now?

    ^ we’ve been down this road, no and no. A line here and there is not ghost writing, more like creative input.

    ^^^
    Wu help each other (not same as this i guess.. but relevant) write lines/finish bars all the time, or at leastt did when they wrote together.
    this is standard for everyone.

  64. 456 Says:

    The innate flyness in Harlem rappers seems to make niggas violently angry.

    ^harlem is chock full of snakes. harlem is the slickest, grimiest niggas in nyc. but bk is the king’s borough.

  65. mcb Says:

    Guru makes up for lack of other high profile names.

  66. abortatron Says:

    we just had this convo last weekend..

    in a tournament amongst the wu solo’s, supreme clientele beats obfcl1 in a triple overtime showdown in the finals.

  67. mcb Says:

    OHHHH SHIT
    i almost forgot, but not high profile
    THe Perceptionists
    Lif&Ak

  68. b Says:

    ^ big L, gave the impression he was untouchable… Lemme find out he got punked by Loon?

    ive seen him chilling wit l on several ocassions.its well known that he wasnt feeling mase tho.

  69. aaron Says:

    wtf is with all the Nas hate on here today? I haven’t even given the Marley shit a chance yet but come the fuck on son! Let’s get this straight…

    Illmatic & It Was Written > any two albums by your fav group/rapper.

  70. cOLD Says:

    here I am on my lunch break still talking rap. smh.

  71. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    ^ big L, gave the impression he was untouchable… Lemme find out he got punked by Loon?
    ===================================
    Nah, Loon used to roll with Big L before he started fucking with Mase.

    He was the muscle.

  72. cOLD Says:

    b Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    ^ big L, gave the impression he was untouchable… Lemme find out he got punked by Loon?

    ive seen him chilling wit l on several ocassions.its well known that he wasnt feeling mase tho.

    ^ L got murked at a dice game right?.. and on his album he had a song about the exact same thing. Creepy.

  73. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    The fact that Harlem snuffs out its own is just fucked up. Niggas from the Chi will never touch its forerunners. That shit is a shame.

  74. el feces loco Says:

    As many as 300,000 people identify as sovereign citizens, the Southern Poverty Law Center found in a study to be published Thursday that was obtained by The Associated Press. Hate group monitors say their numbers have increased thanks to the recession, the foreclosure crisis, the growth of the Internet and the election of Barack Obama in 2008.

    Adherents expect the current American system of government to end one way or another.

    “I’m the Patrick Henry of the 21st century. I’m here to regain our freedom,” James McBride said in a jailhouse interview. “I’m going to, or die trying.”

    At the heart of their belief system: The government creates a secret identity for each citizen at birth, a “straw man,” that controls an account at the U.S. Treasury used as collateral for foreign debt. File enough documents at the right offices and the money in those accounts can be used to pay off debt or make purchases worth thousands of dollars.

    Jim Jarvis, Ohio coordinator for the Restore America Plan, believes the country has lacked a legitimate government since Congress failed to adjourn properly in 1861.

    The people who are crazy, he says, are those who won’t do the research to find out what’s really going on in the country.

    The sovereign citizen movement has grown to about 100,000 hard-core believers, the SPLC report estimates, and 200,000 people trying out the theories by “resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges.”

    Many of these “free” citizens refer to themselves as “Fourteen Amendment Citizens.” They believe the 14th Amendment created a new class of people who had no constitutional rights but were instead slaves to the government, according to Mark Pitcavage, investigative researcher for the Anti-Defamation League.

  75. D. Billz Says:

    # cOLD Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    But Loon was a goon to rappers like Big L & Mase.

    ^ big L, gave the impression he was untouchable… Lemme find out he got punked by Loon?

    ^To my understanding, It was Big L’s BROTHER that was the goon, not L. When his brother was locked up they couldn’t get to him so they went after L instead.

  76. Big_seth Says:

    its hella funny to folks outside of NY to think Loon was that dude.

    not that I don’t believe it.

  77. 456 Says:

    Guru makes up for lack of other high profile names.

    ^guru never mentioned boston once, not never

  78. b-ease Says:

    BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.

    ^^
    No-sign. I’m 27, and Blueprint is the shit, but I dont even think its in my personal top 5 LPs.

  79. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    theres smoke bulger, pause.

    theres dre robinson.

    i had to think of those cause you know, boston local rap artist kinda suck. pause.

    but yo b…..

    twitgoo.com/1h5ogx

  80. b Says:

    The fact that Harlem snuffs out its own is just fucked up. Niggas from the Chi will never touch its forerunners. That shit is a shame.

    ^^^ yeah they prefer to shoot out there.

  81. el feces loco Says:

    leather pants in the summer

    I wanna go watch Hard Knocks again for a 4th time.

  82. aaron Says:

    Listen to star wars…listen to Queensfinest, listen to You gotta love it

  83. el feces loco Says:

    David Wright is a geek

    type to yaself thursdays

  84. el feces loco Says:

    K- Rod’s father in law was awarded first base for getting hit by a pitcher

  85. stot Says:

    rawse speaking in spanish on tracks <<<<<<<<<

  86. b-ease Says:

    Niggas from the Chi will never touch its forerunners.

    ^^
    My man from the Chi maintains to this day that Kanye was thrown thru a plate glass window when he started bubbling. I’ve also heard that Twista was getting extorted heavy back in the day.

  87. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    No ID is on a fuckin’ roll. Shit.

    At this point you’re better off with a No ID beat than a No ID & Kanye West beat, or a Kanye West beat. It’s cheaper and just as good.

  88. landlord Says:

    GURU wasnt high profile…

    Premo’s beats were…

    Scooby Doo and Deputy Dawg could have had hits rhyming over Premo beats when he was in his prime..

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

  89. D. Billz Says:

    # 456 Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    The innate flyness in Harlem rappers seems to make niggas violently angry.

    ^harlem is chock full of snakes. harlem is the slickest, grimiest niggas in nyc. but bk is the king’s borough.

    ^I have ny friends and still don’t know what that mean. Because it’s in Kings County?

  90. Kufi smacks Says:

    Max B got snuffed?

  91. cOLD Says:

    elfeces the that sovereign shit don’t hold up in a court of law..

    I seen a case where the judge got so frustrated with this Moor cat, he threw the book at him.

  92. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    listen to You gotta love it
    ==================
    Who did that beat?

  93. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    That Meek Mill track is dope, too. Beat’s nice, TI continues killing the guest verses, and I might have lost for ignoring Vado.

  94. G7 Says:

    >>^guru never mentioned boston once, not never

    ====
    “I used to chill in Roxbury now I’m comin outta Brooklyn”- Guru

    not sure how close Roxbury is to Boston. close enough though.

  95. Shooter Says:

    ok. BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.
    ^^^^

    GTFOH

  96. Beezy Says:

    Big L >

    Big Lee >

  97. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    Twista is a legend

  98. Kufi smacks Says:

    This beat is not for Twista…

  99. 456 Says:

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

    ^lemonade was a popular drink and it still is…

  100. mcb Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    GURU wasnt high profile…

    Premo’s beats were…

    Scooby Doo and Deputy Dawg could have had hits rhyming over Premo beats when he was in his prime..

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..
    ^^^
    nosign
    yes premo=awesome, but just because Guru flow was diff doesnt make him trash
    you just dont get it.

  101. landlord Says:

    Pink Lava Lamp > Illmatic

    *straight face*

  102. cOLD Says:

    Listen to star wars

    ^ im saying.

  103. Heroine Headliner Says:

    If yall talking goats, where the RAWSE mentions

  104. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

    ^

    you out ya tin foiled covered mind.

    and 456….he has mentioned boston in his rhymes. smh

    where we get these niggas from?

  105. 456 Says:

    woah…niggas is gettin gilt ads.

  106. aaron Says:

    listen to You gotta love it
    ==================
    Who did that beat?
    ===================
    L.E.S

  107. b-ease Says:

    and 456….he has mentioned boston in his rhymes

    ^^
    Do you have a quote? Cause while I’m not denying it, I damn sure dont remember hearing it.

  108. G7 Says:

    GURU wasnt high profile…

    Premo’s beats were…

    Scooby Doo and Deputy Dawg could have had hits rhyming over Premo beats when he was in his prime..

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

    =====
    word. i disagree that he’s almost trash, but its well noted and accepted that Premo’s beats >>> Guru lyrics. thats why i don’t get it when people get aggy if you say Rick Ross’ beats >> his lyrics.

  109. cOLD Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    Pink Lava Lamp > Illmatic

    *straight face*

    ^ one.

  110. Kufi smacks Says:

    ok. BP1

    ^^^^^^^

    Come on homie… Maybe thats an NY thing… That shit aint really even fuckin with Stillmatic…

  111. el feces loco Says:

    # cOLD Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    elfeces the that sovereign shit don’t hold up in a court of law..

    I seen a case where the judge got so frustrated with this Moor cat, he threw the book at him.

    ^^Yea my homie a new Moor too..the elder moors schooled him on how to do it, he got so called “diplomat” ID’s and shit now..I laughed at him heartily..till he came back from court smiling. He had owed child support like 6g’s due that same day.

    Said the judge was fucked up when he presented himself under his sovereign name and denounced all his debts under his American name.

  112. illuminati by nature Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    GURU wasnt high profile…

    Premo’s beats were…

    Scooby Doo and Deputy Dawg could have had hits rhyming over Premo beats when he was in his prime..

    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

    ***LOL @ Scooby Doo and Deputy Dawg, i.e. “Group Home”….disagree on Guru being borderline trash, though…that nigga had a distinct monotone and insightful lyrics, that perfectly accompanied Premo’s beats, rather than being eclipsed by them- Gangstarr was a perfect yin/yang balance and chemistry…IMO, “Daily Operation” is a masterpiece….

  113. landlord Says:

    Deck shitted on Guru on Above the clouds..

    Deck… not Rae or Ghost or GZA..

    but the Immortal Inspectah Deck…

    cmon b…

    Guru (bless the dead) was very replaceable …

    look what happened when Premo starting selling beats to real ill MCs..

    ‘So Ghetto’ happened… ‘Nas Is Like’ happened… ‘Unbelievable’ happened

    cmon now

  114. 456 Says:

    and 456….he has mentioned boston in his rhymes. smh

    ^please link. cause “the planet” made no mention of anything outside of brooklyn.

  115. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Heroine Headliner Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    If yall talking goats, where the RAWSE mentions
    ———————————————

    RAWSE is definitely greatest of all Thursday. I’ll probably have TD playing while I’m at the gym.

  116. b-ease Says:

    “I used to chill in Roxbury now I’m comin outta Brooklyn”- Guru

    ^^
    Cool. And no shots Kev, I just really never remembered hearing it.

  117. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Niggas from the Chi will never touch its forerunners.

    ^^
    My man from the Chi maintains to this day that Kanye was thrown thru a plate glass window when he started bubbling. I’ve also heard that Twista was getting extorted heavy back in the day.

    ^Nope. Twista was pushing heavy on the west side. Nigga don’t have goons, he got worshippers to this day for his block movement. The Kanye story was made up by some local who said he gave Jay “Never Change” when he and Kanye had already did a version of it. Lupe, for some reason, has a goon squad(I never understood why or how) as well.

  118. Hoskins Says:

    What faggot won’t fuck a bitch because of her shoes.

    ^^^ real talk

  119. cOLD Says:

    Said the judge was fucked up when he presented himself under his sovereign name and denounced all his debts under his American name.

    ^ word?… this cat im talking about knew law like crazy, and the judge kept rescheduling because he was flabbergasted. Until eventually he got so frustrated that he acted out of character… lemme look for that clip.

  120. Beezy Says:

    hit me on the hip means page me

  121. b-ease Says:

    that nigga had a distinct monotone and insightful lyrics, that perfectly accompanied Premo’s beats, rather than being eclipsed by them- Gangstarr was a perfect yin/yang balance and chemistry…

    ^^
    THIS.

    And while I’m not as familar with their earlier work, Moment Of Truth might be my favorite hiphop album of all time. Fucking flawless. I’ve copped it at least 5 times, shit get scratched.

  122. landlord Says:

    i know you Boston niggas is mad and i respect your regional alliances and opinions… but, GURU?

    if someone came out sounding like GURU now they get laughed out of the A&R office…

    independent or major.. illuminati or not …

  123. b-ease Says:

    @ troubleshooter

    I stand corrected.

  124. illuminati by nature Says:

    456 Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    Guru dropped mad 5% jewels, but he was almost trash as an Mc..

    ^lemonade was a popular drink and it still is…

    ***LOL…I love that song- not naming the title, cuz it sounds suspect, especially after “I love”- peep “Take it Personal”, “Conspiracy”, “Soliloquy (sp?) of Chaos, and see if that “Guru is trash” argument holds up…although a belated “ayo” goes out to the late great guru, especially in light of the Solaar rumors, for “still I’m gettin crazy calls, my ex girl’s got balls” (c) Ex to the Next Girl”

  125. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Pink Lava Lamp >
    ============
    So slept on, it’s sad.

  126. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    if someone came out sounding like GURU now they get laughed out of the A&R office…
    —————————————————-

    It’s a different time and different production is popular. Of course he wouldn’t sound good over a Lex Luger or Jim Jonsin beat.

  127. cOLD Says:

    When you study LAW you can defend yourself against the CORPORATE beast, which is the U.S. Corporation and its corporate STATES. The Moor is not in the Jurisdiction of the court nor the Corporate U.S. that is why they can’t prosecute him.

  128. Big_seth Says:

    b-ease Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.

    ^^
    No-sign. I’m 27, and Blueprint is the shit, but I dont even think its in my personal top 5 LPs.
    ^^

    Of course not everyone agrees, but I would be willing to bet that most people our age would agree.

  129. illuminati by nature Says:

    if someone came out sounding like GURU now they get laughed out of the A&R office…

    ***first of all, who’s your A&R, a mountainclimber who plays an electric guitar?

  130. Kufi smacks Says:

    Guru was Boring and one of the artist that was keeping that NY style but with no new twist of deliveries or flow…

    Wu was a breath of fresh air as far as a new NY sound… Then Nas (lyrics not beats) and then Biggie…

  131. abortatron Says:

    no one fucks with Mr Lif ?
    i mean, he isn’t my favorite, but since we talkin boston MC’s ,

    iphantom >>>>>

  132. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Moment Of Truth might be my favorite hiphop album of all time. Fucking flawless.
    ========================
    Now this album really is the best produced/sequenced album ever. The first Gangstarr album I ever owned. Copped it on a whim and immediately realized I had a classic.

  133. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    you out ya tin foiled covered mind.
    ——————————

    *dead*

  134. b-ease Says:

    although a belated “ayo” goes out to the late great guru, especially in light of the Solaar rumors, for “still I’m gettin crazy calls, my ex girl’s got balls” (c) Ex to the Next Girl”

    ^^
    *DEAD*

  135. landlord Says:

    bottom line..

    Hamilton was ill til Satan Iovine got hold of him..

    something real sick and twisted and evil be happening to them niggas at Interscope..

    after Pink Lava Lamp, Hamilton released about 15 shitty to average mixtapes that fucked up the buzz from the first 7 or 8 joints

  136. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    if someone came out sounding like Sadat X now they get laughed out of the A&R office…

    Fixed

  137. landlord Says:

    i dare one of you niggas to listen to a GURU acapella and tell me its ill..

    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC…

  138. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    ^^
    No-sign. I’m 27, and Blueprint is the shit, but I dont even think its in my personal top 5 LPs.
    ^^

    Of course not everyone agrees, but I would be willing to bet that most people our age would agree.

    ^It’s not even in my top 10.But BP1 was impressive none the less.

  139. illuminati by nature Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
    bottom line..

    Hamilton is mentally ill and thinks Sonic the Hedgehog is Jesus

    ***fixed****

  140. THE-XFACTA Says:

    “Chicago is definitely in the building”

    I wonder how long it took Dre to think of that opening? That asbestos in Eskays grandmas basement is getting to him

  141. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    if someone came out sounding like GURU now they get laughed out of the A&R office…

    ^

    theres no need cause it’s been done and its a certified staple in hip hop. you aint up on ya gangstarr you aint sayin shit fan or not. rollin dolo is one of the last joints i’ve heard guru sayin boston on a track. on his earlier joints he always references boston as home. smh. thas a legacy. guru is an undeniable legend for those off y’all that wanted to be sure on who the term applies to.

    smh.

  142. aaron Says:

    Thank me later will be respected in 10 years. Teflon don will be forgotten completely. When nas dies he will get the respect he deserves. Best lyrically. Fab is very underrated. Bp3 was the best album of 09, I still listen to it. Shorty redd is very underrated. All white everything is the shit.

  143. Big_seth Says:

    Troubleshooter1900 Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    ^Nope. Twista was pushing heavy on the west side. Nigga don’t have goons, he got worshippers to this day for his block movement. The Kanye story was made up by some local who said he gave Jay “Never Change” when he and Kanye had already did a version of it. Lupe, for some reason, has a goon squad(I never understood why or how) as well.
    ^^

    cuz Chi niggas seem to love their own. And a lot of them be gangsta but hella righteous.

    That’s why he switched from the gangsta shit it seems. to be more real to him and rep his home.

  144. THE-XFACTA Says:

    landlord Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    i dare one of you niggas to listen to a GURU acapella and tell me its ill..

    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC… (See: Joe 88)

    *Fixed

  145. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Big_seth Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    b-ease Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    BP1 is the greatest rap album created. To us under 30.

    ^^
    No-sign. I’m 27, and Blueprint is the shit, but I dont even think its in my personal top 5 LPs.
    ^^

    Of course not everyone agrees, but I would be willing to bet that most people our age would agree.
    ———————————————

    If anyone actually compiled a list of best rap albums of the 00s from as many heads as they could Blueprint would easily get the #1 spot.

    There’s not even a clear cut #2. Maybe Supreme Clientele, or at least IMO Late Registration.

    Most heads under 30 would put Blueprint near the top. One of those rare records that gets respect from heads and pop fans alike.

  146. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    RIP Do Or Die….their Greatest Hits CD >>>>>>>>>>>>

  147. illuminati by nature Says:

    Thank me later will be respected in 10 years

    ***so what, it’s like a Govt Savings Bond, or some shit? Cuz niggas ain’t appreciating it now…

  148. G7 Says:

    “And then while you watchin examine all options
    Young bodies in the coffin more often
    It stay the same from Brooklyn to Boston
    Every interstate, more youth with the inner hate
    Deep in the struggle, puttin food on they dinner plate”- Guru on “Put up or Shut up”

    ====
    not really shoutin’ Boston out, but he said it…lol.

  149. Jersey*made*me Says:

    co-sign RJ

    Miss me with that monotone shit,Guru wasn’t good. Especially in that era,Preemo carried that nigga with them beats. The irony is how he was talking shit about him being “Gang Star”,like he was really spitting.SMH.

  150. Kufi smacks Says:

    Guru = east coast warren G

  151. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC… (See: Joe 88)

    ^

    damn. smh

  152. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Thank me later will be respected in 10 years. Teflon don will be forgotten completely.
    ===============
    Yes.

    When nas dies he will get the respect he deserves. Best lyrically.
    ========================================
    Probably.

    Bp3 was the best album of 09
    ========================
    No. No it wasn’t.

  153. aaron Says:

    Cam has never made a track I couldn’t listen to 3 times

  154. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC…
    ——————————————

    Word, fuck Drake and fuck TML. No one’s listening to those raps without Swizzy, 40, and 1da’s heat.

  155. Big_seth Says:

    Pink Lavalamp is good music.

    Especially that stolen beat.

  156. b Says:

    Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    RIP Do Or Die….their Greatest Hits CD >>>>>>>>>>>>

    co sign thats a favorite on my ipod

    music on my ipod >>>>>>>>>> yours

  157. G7 Says:

    >>Thank me later will be respected in 10 years. Teflon don will be forgotten completely. When nas dies he will get the respect he deserves. Best lyrically. Fab is very underrated. Bp3 was the best album of 09, I still listen to it. Shorty redd is very underrated. All white everything is the shit.

    =====
    roffle at the bold

  158. Jersey*made*me Says:

    “Chicago is definitely in the building”

    I wonder how long it took Dre to think of that opening? That asbestos in Eskays grandmas basement is getting to him

    ^^

    Nigga is that the corniest shit or what? I thought it was just me,lol.

  159. Kufi smacks Says:

    GRODT was better then BP1 and will rate higher on the 00′s chart…

  160. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Jersey*made*me Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
    co-sign RJ

    Miss me with that monotone shit,Guru wasn’t good. Especially in that era,Preemo carried that nigga with them beats. The irony is how he was talking shit about him being “Gang Star”,like he was really spitting.SMH.

    —–

    Moment of Truth was the only album worth listening IMO

  161. Tong Po Flo Says:

    The Legendary Traxster/No I.D. >>>>>>> Ye/Lex Loogie/No I.D.

    *daps midday nah shift*

  162. Big_seth Says:

    RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC…
    ——————————————

    Word, fuck Drake and fuck TML. No one’s listening to those raps without Swizzy, 40, and 1da’s heat.
    ^^

    LMAO @ SWIZZ

    Nah, man I would add the Ye and Timbo beats over that garbage part of Fancy that swizz produced.

    Swizz is trash. He had some heat early, but he hella wack not.

  163. landlord Says:

    RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    if you cant rap ill without a beat on, you aint a ill MC…
    ——————————————

    Word, fuck Drake and fuck TML. No one’s listening to those raps without Swizzy, 40, and 1da’s heat.

    ——–

    i agree… and i said that from day one, it was the music that mad TNL ill ….

    now please get off my nuts, cause kanye west needs you to resume buffing his …

  164. 456 Says:

    not really shoutin’ Boston out, but he said it…lol.

    ^LOL. that ain’t reppin. that’s finding a word that rhyme with often…

  165. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    RIP Do Or Die….their Greatest Hits CD >>>>>>>>>>>>
    ====================================
    Po Pimp, Playa Like Me & Money Flow >>>>

    If Twista was smart he woulda tried to join them for an album while Belo is locked up.

    He was already an unofficial member anyway.

  166. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    cuz Chi niggas seem to love their own. And a lot of them be gangsta but hella righteous.

    That’s why he switched from the gangsta shit it seems. to be more real to him and rep his home.

    ^This is exactly what Twista said in an interview on WGCI back in 05-06 when Impossible came out. Then, he lost his contract with the Roc. he said they wanted something that wasn’t in him.

  167. Kufi smacks Says:

    RIP Do Or Die….their Greatest Hits CD >>>>>>>>>>>>

    LOL

  168. b-ease Says:

    GRODT was better then BP1

    ^^
    Nope.

  169. b Says:

    whos the most famous person in the world?

  170. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    music on my ipod >>>>>>>>>> yours
    =================
    my collection is unbiased and broad (nh)…..

    from Geto Boys to Bill Withers Live At Carnegie Hall

  171. 456 Says:

    GRODT was better then BP1 and will rate higher on the 00′s chart…

    ^not so sure. GRODT is fading fast. I feel no need to listen to that record these days…it was good but it has very little to say

  172. THE-XFACTA Says:

    *Joe 88′s it up*

    *Logs Off*

    *Forever*

    *Tells Librarian he won’t be back to use computer*

    *Hops on Huffy 10 Speed*

  173. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # aaron Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Thank me later will be respected in 10 years. Teflon don will be forgotten completely. When nas dies he will get the respect he deserves. Best lyrically. Fab is very underrated. Bp3 was the best album of 09, I still listen to it. Shorty redd is very underrated. All white everything is the shit.
    ———————————————–

    Aside from the BP3 comment, I agree.

    RAWSE made a dope record and the best of the year *maybe* [wait for Yeezy]. But at it’s very core it’s a retro album conceptually, and on half of the tracks musically, too. Those records never fare well in history unless they usher a return to that style, which TD obviously will not.

    TML will definitely be remembered in 10 years. Even if Drake goes back to acting, he was an important figure in music for 2 years. Rappers would kill [not just in song] for a Drake hook, and he goes against the model of rising star before him, as far as how he hit big.

  174. abortatron Says:

    Thank me later will be respected in 10 years. Teflon don will be forgotten completely. When nas dies he will get the respect he deserves. Best lyrically. Fab is very underrated. Bp3 was the best album of 09, I still listen to it. Shorty redd is very underrated. All white everything is the shit.

    ^
    so …
    actually nevermind.

  175. aaron Says:

    40 cal, papoose and j hood are the three best mc’s to ever grace this earth

  176. b-ease Says:

    RIP Do Or Die….their Greatest Hits CD >>>>>>>>>>>>

    ^^
    Real rap, I actually copped this a few years ago, because I was stoned, had an extra $15 bucks on me, and had a weird urge to hear “Playa Like Me.” They didnt have the first LP so I bought the greatest hits. Suprisingly dope.

  177. 456 Says:

    whos the most famous person in the world?

    ^alive…probably obama.or ali. dead MJ by a landslide.

  178. abortatron Says:

    August 12th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
    GRODT was better then BP1 and will rate higher on the 00′s chart…

    ^
    no.

  179. b-ease Says:

    whos the most famous person in the world?

    ^^
    Until last year, it was Micheal Jackson. Right now, I cant call it.

  180. Shooter Says:

    Supreme Clientele is easily the best album of the 00′s

  181. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    40 cal, papoose and j hood are the three best mc’s to ever grace this earth

    ^lol. For this reason, I steered clear of crack.

  182. Kufi smacks Says:

    GRODT was better then BP1 and will rate higher on the 00′s chart…

    ^
    no.

    ^

    Yes it was… Had a Bigger impact too/..

  183. el feces loco Says:

    # cOLD Says:
    August 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    When you study LAW you can defend yourself against the CORPORATE beast, which is the U.S. Corporation and its corporate STATES. The Moor is not in the Jurisdiction of the court nor the Corporate U.S. that is why they can’t prosecute him.

    ^^Yea I think the basic premise behind their position is that since they were slaves when (treaties, amendments, constitutions) were signed they didn’t have true representation there and therefore shouldn’t be subject to the laws of America which were formed under these acts.

    I think International law designates a few original tribes, aboriginals etc as sovereign people. Not subject to certain laws of formed governments. I can see how it could fuck a judge up tho…but all you need is one judge to side with you.

  184. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    ^^Yea I think the basic premise behind their position is that since they were slaves when (treaties, amendments, constitutions) were signed they didn’t have true representation there and therefore shouldn’t be subject to the laws of America which were formed under these acts.

    I think International law designates a few original tribes, aboriginals etc as sovereign people. Not subject to certain laws of formed governments. I can see how it could fuck a judge up tho…but all you need is one judge to side with you.

    ^I’m sure Clarence Thomas will happily oblige.

  185. Kufi smacks Says:

    GRODT was better then BP1 and will rate higher on the 00′s chart…

    ^not so sure. GRODT is fading fast. I feel no need to listen to that record these days…it was good but it has very little to say

    ^^^^^^^^

    Swear i thought the same thing until i listen to pandora one My droid and all the GRODT song came on… nigga i can work out for hours even to High all the time…

    ” Niggas broke in the hood worried about mine grown ass men with the starter kit shine”

  186. sowait Says:

    Yo, this fucking tune is nasty as fuck! especially twista’s flows and the beat – ray is aiiiiight but everything else is outstanding!

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