The Re-Education of Jamal Barrow

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Ok, so I just had a conversation with Po. He wanted to explain why there’s been such a drastic change in his rhyme style/flow since his release from prison. I was going to wait until the next time he leaked a track, but I mentioned it on Twitter, and people were asking for an explanation, so here goes.

Here’s the gist of it: That guy we used to know pre-2001? The guy who shot up the club? The guy who stood in front of the judge and took a 10 year bid? The guy who used to spit like this?

That guy is dead.

That was the guy Jamal Barrow used to be, and he no longer wants to be that man. That man made choices that he’ll have to deal with for the rest of his life, and put his mother through one of the worst experiences any mother could ever have to go through. And he doesn’t want to be that man anymore.

He explained, in no uncertain terms, that in order for him to move forward with his life, and stay on the right path, he feels he needs to make drastic changes, and the flow you hear now, is just a small part of that.

So the Shyne you hear now, like it or not, for better or for worse, is the Shyne we’ll be hearing from here out. You don’t have to like it, but I think you have to respect it.

My opinion? I think he’s in a tough spot. On the one hand, he wants to progress as a human being, and on the other he wants to succeed as an artist. But we all know how fickle this game is. This game? It eats its young. People like what they like and if they don’t like it, they’re not trying to hear you out.

I think homie will be alright though, one way or another. I wish him the best.


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242 Responses to “The Re-Education of Jamal Barrow”

  1. BK...Then Them Says:

    Yo like real spit…that has to be the dumbest explanation in the history of explanations…..

  2. Eastern_Digital aka Nahright's Fantasy Football champ Says:

    more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

  3. Eastern_Digital aka Nahright's Fantasy Football champ Says:

    Yo like real spit…that has to be the dumbest explanation in the history of explanations…..

    ^^
    I’m co-signin that tho.

  4. Nestle Snipes Says:

    is he related to Vado?

  5. Special Fr3D AKA Rico Says:

    Respect what?

  6. the real truth Says:

    I hear what hes sayin but changing your voice is the change he landed on?

  7. William M. Holla Says:

    Just give it up then Jamal. I dont want to hear excuses. Spit that shit, cause that new shit is not all good mannn. You dont have to change up your flow, to be another person. Change up the content. And speaking of, he’s going after 50 talking that shit, he hasn’t changed that much!

  8. Nestle Snipes Says:

    cliffnotes: shyne deepthroated 10 dicks in his 10 year stint in prison.

    That’s all you had to say. Simple as that.

  9. rdawodu Says:

    That explanation was flawed. Very Flawed.

  10. hl Says:

    Yo like real spit…that has to be the dumbest explanation in the history of explanations…..

    I gotta agree. Sounds like he’s still talking about the same ignorant shit in his bars.

  11. thehoodnerd Says:

    He’s still rapping about busting guns and terrorizing shit….I don’t get this explanation at all lol.

  12. nation Says:

    >> more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

    co-sign

  13. Mr.Londoner Says:

    call me homo, but i like eskay approach to this comapred to Y.N’s..

    Seemed like y.n kinda shitted on him in a roundabout way

  14. BSEENANDHEARD Says:

    Real shit…. But dumb ass choice to change your voice to LoL… that shit gets no play in this ride (c)Menace to Society

  15. Nestle Snipes Says:

    Rude Boy Freestyle was top 10 shine freestyle.

  16. famz Says:

    he wants to make a change he shouldn’t be rapping then.

    he still rapping about the same ol bullshyt except with a wack ass flow.

    shyne’s done

  17. Harlem World Says:

    Shyne Po

  18. BSEENANDHEARD Says:

    And why still use the same content but make your voice sound like the cowardly lion???

  19. Harlem World Says:

    my nigga Ty leave you tied

  20. Harlem World Says:

    my 2 cannons blast niggas, ask niggas

  21. Dynamics Says:

    Props for posting the story Esk.

  22. TheCo!!inB Says:

    Maybe a little too soon to be releasing material without knowing exactly how you want to be viewed. It’s one thing to say “this Shyne is gone” but another to say he’s gone and not give the listeners a clear indication of who Shyne is now. The beats he’s gotten on, the subject matter have all been stale rap rhetoric for the most. I thought he was gonna come back with the leather belt on hanging on his neck “Pops” style ready to lash kids wanting to rap that tough shit but don’t do tough things (c)eskay.
    Hope this artist shit works out for him…

  23. Nestle Snipes Says:

    the hood is fickle
    gun is plated nickel
    sickle to your throat watch the blood trickle

  24. the real truth Says:

    Seemed like y.n kinda shitted on him in a roundabout way

    ^
    Co-Sign

  25. Nestle Snipes Says:

    Shyne should take that 7 million and just dissappear.

    He can’t do tough things.

    Last time he did that he had to spend 10 years in prison, because his boss snitched on him.

  26. Harlem World Says:

    Put more niggas in Pitts then Brad, man
    Cant dodge bullets?
    Too bad man

    *sentences Shyne to 10 years without parole*

  27. G7 Says:

    Mr.Londoner Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
    call me homo

    ^homo

  28. Harlem World Says:

    Exactly, do what Ma$e did, except don’t be a faux preacher like him.

    Mase got about 8 churches from Atlanta to Bermuda.

  29. Nestle Snipes Says:

    lol @ the nigga saying Call me Homo…

  30. TheCo!!inB Says:

    nation Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    >> more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

    co-sign
    ^*jumps off the tallest building in itsthecalm.com’s header*

  31. Mr.Londoner Says:

    # G7 Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Mr.Londoner Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
    call me homo

    ^homo
    ==-=-=–=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    misquoting as ninja..

  32. NovemberEnd Says:

    smh @ you Esk for believing for a min this nigga lyrics, flow, and voice are all terrible on purpose…this nigga doing songs with “Gangland remix”, “There Will Be Blood”….how is that moving forward with his life…sound like hes glorifying his jail bid…

    Ashmi & Moses …STFU B

  33. Mr.Londoner Says:

    ^
    ass > as

  34. DW Says:

    Eskay you gonna show Prodigy that kind of respect when he get out?

    Shyne Excuse >>> Solar phony goodbye letter

  35. Belize Says:

    There will be blood & Messiah stay in rotation…but se, we Belizeans noh give wah mada fuck bout hate? HATE? We live pan dat…we breed off that..we NEED dat

    Real Talk..shyne really has a small fan base..everyone else just jumped on board to be gangsta..or claim they bump hard shyt.

    ::YAWN:: @ dem

    Do you even listen to lyrics or skim tru it?

  36. DOM IZZO Says:

    I respect him not wanting to be the man he was back then and all but I still don’t see how changing your rap voice equals going in a new direction. As shallow as it is to turn off a dudes record because of his voice before you hear they rhymes, thats how this game is. The same way we turn off the tv if a fat chick gets too close. Go back to the old voice. Mature your rhymes and you’ll be ight kid

  37. Belize Says:

    One more thing…compare any of your fav rappers flows 10 yrs later…(c) Jay

  38. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Like i just told eskay on twitter. So titling your song “There will be blood” is his definition of beginning a new path? That’s a bit comical.

  39. NovemberEnd Says:

    Go back to the old voice. Mature your rhymes and you’ll be ight kid
    ^^^^^^
    word

  40. NOLAIS504(uptown) Says:

    it’s good somebody with a platform took the time to break this situation down people are to quick to judge these days. and fifty needs to rack up all the chump change while he still can.

  41. A Chick Says:

    BK…Then Them Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    Yo like real spit…that has to be the dumbest explanation in the history of explanations…..
    ———
    Basically.

  42. Harlem World Says:

    But we all know how fickle this game is.

    ^^
    cosign

    moving to the sea > music industry

  43. Belize Says:

    btw..props to eskay for calling ol boy b4 you posted..rare shyt nowadays

  44. Ghost Writer Says:

    So that’s what he came up with? I can respect what he’s saying but dude you’re still talking about the same shit you was before you went in, (n) why just change the flow why not change the whole thing?! He should’ve change the concept and kept the voice imo but that’s his life and my choice to listen or not

  45. hl Says:

    Question…Do ya’ll think this is how he explained it to LA Reid?

  46. Black Brokaw Says:

    send him back to jail so he can start to hate the man he’s becoming and go back to the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO days

  47. Harlem World Says:

    talk about prison

    you got these coons gloryifiyng shit out here

    prison aint no joke..nobody wants to lose their freedom, family, pussy etc

    i know Po must have read a few books in prison

  48. Nestle Snipes Says:

    akidnamedhenny’s mom is beatiful…not disresepeck

    smh no wonder these latina women get pregnant at 16 or 15 years old…

  49. Shooter Says:

    They could have at least played the ” I havnt rapped in years and Im’ just getting the rust off” excuse or blamed it on some physical ailment, this is just kinda stupid…

  50. Harlem World Says:

    And get at Young Los and V-Don for beats!! Now!!

  51. Nestle Snipes Says:

    Prison Rappers:

    Lil WAyne > Max B

  52. Cashmere Cavalli aka Debonair Cavalier Says:

    this would sense if he was kicking some up lifting shit in his barz

  53. Ghost Writer Says:

    blamed it on some physical ailment,

    ^
    WHOA!

  54. Nestle Snipes Says:

    shyne bad boyz is a classic though…

    smh….straight up summer song…

  55. atcq aka Kick ButtOWWWski Says:

    I dont believe you Shyne, imo I think you gave esk the same 1, 2 you gave the parole board.

    Carry on.

  56. Beezy Says:

    eskay is the Marv Albert of the rap game

  57. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    but dude you’re still talking about the same shit you was before you went in, (n) why just change the flow why not change the whole thing?!
    ^
    Exactly.

  58. Harlem World Says:

    tribes moms >>>>>

  59. hl Says:

    I think Eskay might have spoken to a fake Shyne. Like that time he was beefing with Ras Kass.

  60. Shooter Says:

    >> more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

    co-sign

    ^^^

    true

  61. Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    so he wants to be a different man from the one that got locked up? And the best way to do this is to come out and start rap beef with king beef aka 50 cent?

    Po just needs to keep working on the skills, and he’ll be aight. fuk the beef shit

  62. Eastern_Digital aka Nahright's Fantasy Football champ Says:

    >> more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

    co-sign

    ^^^
    then do a interview with your boy (nh) Drake before his album drops. Ask him 10 interesting(!!!) questions(that means no questions about his album for example) and do a 10 day countdown, one question/lenghty answer a day.

  63. Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    i thought all other posts would be under the Guru RIP homage? what happened?

  64. Ghost Writer Says:

    Jamal’s PR person should be fired right now

  65. Eastern_Digital aka Nahright's Fantasy Football champ Says:

    Btw: Shyne’s A&R is a walking FAIL by any means.

  66. G7 Says:

    >>I can respect what he’s saying but dude you’re still talking about the same shit you was before you went in,

    ^word. he still sounds as violent as ever, but he got that throat cancer flow now. sounds like he hasn’t progressed. his album will tell us. i’m barely making it through his freestyles though so a full album listen might be a stretch for me. no rich simmons.

  67. Eastern_Digital aka Nahright's Fantasy Football champ Says:

    i thought all other posts would be under the Guru RIP homage? what happened?

    ^^
    He ain’t MJ.

  68. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    ……..

  69. verses Says:

    That man made choices that he’ll have to deal with for the rest of his life, and put his mother through one of the worst experiences any mother could ever have to go through. And he doesn’t want to be that man anymore.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I can respect that. But seriously, eskay and the rest of the nah right soilders, you think LA signed him becuase he want to be this new person, or cause he expected Shyne to rap about how hard (none) he is, how hes shot people up, hows he’s served real years in jail etc etc/

  70. G7 Says:

    Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
    i thought all other posts would be under the Guru RIP homage? what happened?

    ^Solar couldn’t come up with enough loot.

  71. atcq aka Kick ButtOWWWski Says:

    fuck up HW

  72. Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    i thought all other posts would be under the Guru RIP homage? what happened?

    ^^
    He ain’t MJ.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    true. but Mj didn’t belong to one of the best duos of hip hop culture.

  73. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    I’m just wondering why he went after 50 and not Diddy

  74. Harlem World Says:

    # atcq aka Kick ButtOWWWski Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    fuck up HW

    ^^
    lol sorry b..this the only time you ever gonna get an apology from me…then we can continue firing scuds (ll)

  75. Shooter Says:

    I wonder if Shyne even had to rap for L.A Reid to get that million dollar deal

  76. Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    G7 Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    Wakher Flocko COIS Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
    i thought all other posts would be under the Guru RIP homage? what happened?

    ^Solar couldn’t come up with enough loot.
    ____________________________________________

    smh……trying hard not laugh cuz that comment is packed with a lot of shit.

  77. rex hussla Says:

    This dude was always kinda garbage…kind of a gimmick. The dude who sounded like BIG right after BIG died, was overheard rapping at a barber shop and started a bidding war…Puff picked him up because he loves a quick buck. His two biggest tracks had ill beats and Barrington on the hook, there’s no way he could lose. C’mon maaaaan.

  78. Ghost Writer Says:

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    I’m just wondering why he went after 50 and not Diddy

    ^
    True…who’s 50 now? If he say one line about Puff then he’s good

  79. Harlem World Says:

    Does he still keep in touch with Foxy..Foxy is one of the realest people in the industry…she gave one of my mans HER HOUSE after he came home…similar to Shyne, he had been left for dead by Puff Devil. Foxy is good peoples.

  80. LV Says:

    Yo like real spit…that has to be the dumbest explanation in the history of explanations…..

    ^^
    I’m co-signin that tho.

    ^^
    Im co-signin the co-sign…

  81. Nestle snipes Says:

    LA Reid is a fuck boy…wears too much cologne and has the 3 top buttons on his silk shirt open at all times..

    Jay-Z at DJ > LA “My Son is the light skin Rick Ross” Reid

  82. verses Says:

    Wow…listening to Mister Cee’s mix…

  83. Nestle snipes Says:

    # Harlem World Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Does he still keep in touch with Foxy..Foxy is one of the realest people in the industry…she gave one of my mans HER HOUSE after he came home…similar to Shyne, he had been left for dead by Puff Devil. Foxy is good peoples.

    ^So you know Cam’s manager huh?

    Cam’s manager aka BIG JOE used to do security for Foxy/Puff or some shit.

    Big Joe is hilarious, but I can see a dude like him being black balled in the industry. Way too real.

  84. Nestle snipes Says:

    Harlem World = Big Joe/Joe

  85. verses Says:

    # atcq aka Kick ButtOWWWski Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    I dont believe you Shyne, imo I think you gave esk the same 1, 2 you gave the parole board.

    Carry on.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    *chuckles*

  86. KzA aka Roberto Commente Says:

    ehhhhhhhhhhhhh this shit is a bit thin Po…

    Shyne just need to relax… get in the studio for a few weeks… find himself artistically. Seems like dude got out and got a deal and was pressured to just start throwing shit out there asap. This rap shit is a craft and after taking such a long haitus theres no doubt your gonna be rusty

  87. KzA aka Roberto Commente Says:

    Nestle snipes Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    # Harlem World Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Does he still keep in touch with Foxy..Foxy is one of the realest people in the industry…she gave one of my mans HER HOUSE after he came home…similar to Shyne, he had been left for dead by Puff Devil. Foxy is good peoples.

    ^

    wow @ this story if its the truth.. thats some real shit

  88. Tong Po Flo Says:

    Christina Hendricks named sexiest woman alive

    ^ Ya dammmmn rite

  89. Incilin Says:

    I honestly don’t get it. I just can’t wrap my head around why you and YN have so much love for this guy. I’ve never seen you guys cut slack for any other artist like you have for Shyne. Not for TI or Wayne who also did time (Fuck the idea of “rapper time” ALL jail time is REAL time). Not for Mysonne or Turk, both of whom did/are doing “real time”. I’m sure Shyne is a nice guy (you know the type of nice guy who shoots up a crowded night club) but I don’t care.

    I never thought Shyne was a great rapper, but I never thought he was that bad. But now? He’s THE worst rapper I’ve ever heard. Him choosing to stick with that voice is just another mistake he’s made in his life. Rapping with a voice like that is like playing guitar with a broken hand. There’s just no way it’ll ever work. He shouldn’t want to sound like Rick Ross with sludge in his mouth, and he shouldn’t want to sound like Big either. He should sound like himself. And if that’s who he truly is, then he aint no dope rapper.

  90. Tong Po Flo Says:

    Shyne should just start from stratch that new “sound” of his ain’t going to get him any new fans any time soon

  91. G7 Says:

    >>This dude was always kinda garbage…kind of a gimmick. The dude who sounded like BIG right after BIG died, was overheard rapping at a barber shop and started a bidding war…Puff picked him up because he loves a quick buck. His two biggest tracks had ill beats and Barrington on the hook, there’s no way he could lose. C’mon maaaaan.

    ====
    realest keying so far

  92. Patron James Says:

    this nigga eskay thinks hes doing real work

  93. reem Says:

    *shrug*

    i still fail to see why this would be a justification for bad songs, though. Switching up your style because you want to change is one thing, but using that as a scapegoat for being completely out of touch and producing garbage music is another. swear to god, 99% of rappers nowadays will put out anything in hopes of remaining relevant (and i use that term extremely loosely – nh ), yet they fail to realize that they’re only destroying their own careers.

  94. Ghost Writer Says:

    I’ve never seen you guys cut slack for any other artist like you have for Shyne.

    ^
    Fair

  95. Ghost Writer Says:

    Tong Po Flo Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
    Shyne should just start from stratch that new “sound” of his ain’t going to get him any new fans any time soon

    ^
    Right…I mean they could’ve played around a bit more til they found something better than a sleepy Ja Rule flow

  96. verses Says:

    # Ghost Writer Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Tong Po Flo Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
    Shyne should just start from stratch that new “sound” of his ain’t going to get him any new fans any time soon

    ^
    Right…I mean they could’ve played around a bit more til they found something better than a sleepy Ja Rule flow

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    On the basis of hearing Po’s 3 or so freestyles:

    The Cookie Monster > Po aka Moses whatever his name is now

  97. why? Says:

    Cookie Monster and Curtis who?

    *Goes back to listening to the monthly new song from J.E*

  98. NESTLE SNIPES Says:

    c-murder and tru life doing time

    gucci mane comes out in may

  99. Patron James Says:

    free max b

  100. Ghost Writer Says:

    *Goes back to listening to the monthly yearly new song from J.E*

  101. Tong Po Flo Says:

    On the basis of hearing Po’s 3 or so freestyles:

    The Cookie Monster > Po aka Moses whatever his name is now

    ^ lol

  102. Ghost Writer Says:

    fixed*

  103. Shooter Says:

    *Goes back to listening to the monthly new song from J.E*
    ^^^^

    monthly??

  104. why? Says:

    Christina Hendricks > Megan Fox

  105. Ghost Writer Says:

    On the basis of hearing Po’s 3 or so freestyles:

    The Cookie Monster > Po aka Moses whatever his name is now

    ^
    That Rude Boy freestyle was the worst…he made that song sound better

  106. Tong Po Flo Says:

    *Goes back to listening to the yearly new song from J.E*

    ^ lol that joint was ill tho

  107. rdawodu Says:

    # Patron James Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    this nigga eskay thinks hes doing real work
    —————

    This made me chuckle

  108. Damian Gnarley Says:

    Shyne never seemed too intelligent tho… i mean what did you guys expect?

    1. He signed with Diddy

    2. He bussed a gun in a club like that with ALLLLLL dem witnesses

    3. He took the fall seemingly not understanding that it would lead to his incarceration

  109. Charles Oakley Says:

    ayo for yayo

  110. Charles Oakley Says:

    no tony

  111. joffe jo Says:

    good editorial shit eskay fuck you hatin ass fickle niggas on here

  112. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    What does his voice matter if he’s still spitting rhymes that glorify a negative lifestyle?

    Yo Po, get your mind right homie.

  113. verses Says:

    So the Shyne you hear now, like it or not, for better or for worse, is the Shyne we’ll be hearing from here out. You don’t have to like it, but I think you have to respect it.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Correct me if IM wrong, but those frestyles, isnt dude spittin (none0 the same old same old? is bitches, riches fame and etc etc….

    Im just sayin.

  114. ridalen Says:

    Roffle at this entire situation. Open a resort in Belize and call it a day.

  115. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    That Rude Boy freestyle was the worst…he made that song sound better
    =============================================
    That Rude Boy song is dope though.

  116. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    good editorial shit eskay
    ======================
    Wasn’t eskay shitting on the new Shyne too?

    And the YN sneak disses are wack.

  117. lil mane young Says:

    BOTTOM LINE:

    SHYNE NEEDS TO CHANGE HIS VOICE.

  118. lil mane young Says:

    *proceeds to enjoy 420 holiday*

  119. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Shyne should just start from stratch that new “sound” of his ain’t going to get him any new fans any time soon
    ======================================
    He needs to stop freestyling and start making actual songs. I keep saying this, but “All My Life” has grown on me. Not bad at all.

  120. The Killer Says:

    good editorial shit eskay fuck you hatin ass fickle
    niggas on here
    ^^
    *blank stare*

  121. Rome Says:

    >> more post like this would improve Nah and take it to another level.

    co-sign

    ^^^

    chuuch

  122. verses Says:

    *contiunes to wear Kweli’s stolen Yankee fitted*

    *plays Get By*

    What?

  123. Damian Gnarley Says:

    Shyne’s pop runs Belize… has it occured to anyone that he doesn’t give a fidduck anymore.

  124. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Shyne just need to relax… get in the studio for a few weeks… find himself artistically. Seems like dude got out and got a deal and was pressured to just start throwing shit out there asap.
    =======================================
    This.

    Shyne needs to settle down and really think about who he wants to be as an artist. He’s not the same Shyne he was when he went to prison, so why rap about the same shit?

  125. Rome Says:

    That was a terrible explanation of Po’s part …How the fuck you moving on when you’re still glorifying violence?

    Rapradar posted something about Po wanting to Not sound like BIG anymore. He hated the BIG comparisons.

    That explanation >>>> This one

  126. joffe jo Says:

    you can shit on a cat in an editorial I was just saying good shit it was some relevant info

  127. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    He hated the BIG comparisons.
    ============================
    Then why make a song called “The Commission”?

  128. The Killer Says:

    fuck shyne, no shots
    but I’m waiting fir the return of Saigon, the nice nigga

  129. joffe jo Says:

    I’m waiting fir the return of Saigon

    ^^^^^^

    yessir

  130. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Question?

    Why is Shyne calling eskay?

    “You don’t have to like it, but I think you have to respect it.”

    No I don’t.

  131. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    Shyne’s pop runs Belize… has it occured to anyone that he doesn’t give a fidduck anymore.
    ^
    I thought his dad never claimed him/disowned him?

  132. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Shyne fucked up rolling with Irv.

    He’d been better off fucking with someone who’s had a hit record in the past 5 years.

  133. Rome Says:

    He hated the BIG comparisons.
    ============================
    Then why make a song called “The Commission”?

    ^
    You’d have to ask him brah…but in my opinion I think dude got some serious identity issues. He’s tryna run away from who he was…while keeping the same fans who like the old him. I think all this pressure is gon’ make homie snap. He needs to stop recording…Go to Hawaii on some Kanye, I-need-to-figure-shit-out-without-the-public pressure Tip.

  134. Damian Gnarley Says:

    He hated the BIG comparisons.

    ^

    then why let diddy fuck you over?

  135. The Killer Says:

    warning shots was straight heroin fluid
    story never told was straight crack rocks
    moral of the story was straight chronic smoke

  136. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Shyne’s pop runs Belize… has it occured to anyone that he doesn’t give a fidduck anymore.
    =============================
    That’s ironic cause apparently, neither do the fans.

  137. DJ NITTI Says:

    Truth be told, Shyne was never that great of an MC. As far as I’m concerned he was alright and a one hit wonder. What separated him from other rappers was that he sounded like BIG and Diddy’s touch (production, hype, etc). I was never a fan of his past music, IMO the only classic he had was “Bad Boyz”. I do however respect him as a man for busting his gun and doing his time like a man and I wish him luck on his future endeavors but his current music is pathetic, his voice and flow is horrible. I kinda expected this but hoped I was wrong. I love a good comeback story and was hoping this could one, at least for his fans.

    I blame whoever is handling his career because they need to steer him in the right direction and let him know what he’s doing wrong. I don’t even understand why they would gamble with a single so soon, they needed to let him drop a mixtape or two to let him get his flow back, consider it a lyrical exercise. First impressions are usually long lasting and he needs to realize that there’s a whole new generation of fans that he needed to impress. I don’t understand how anybody could think that “Messiah” was going to be that single (what is going on at Def Jam). At least with a whole mixtape with over an hour of Shyne going over hot beats we could’ve gotten a better feel for him and his sound. I also think that Shyne has a bit of an entitlement issue in which he feels that because he’s an OG now any did his time like a man everyone is going to jump on his bandwagon but unfortunately that’s not enough. We might respect him as a man for enduring those trails and tribulations and it might create a great backdrop but the music has to be hot.

    BTW, expect LA Reid to get fired for this.

  138. Dem Says:

    *late pass*

    oh damn, they gave jamal 7 figures?

    *listens to the music*

    oh damn, is it recoupable??

  139. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    I think all this pressure is gon’ make homie snap. He needs to stop recording…Go to Hawaii on some Kanye, I-need-to-figure-shit-out-without-the-public pressure Tip.
    ===================================
    I agree.
    Rushing back into the rap game, especially in this day and age…not wise unless you really have your head on straight and your shit together.l

    I don’t think Shyne has either at this point.

    But I can’t be mad. L.A. Reid threw that money at him. Anyone of us would have took it. But to put the pressure on son to produce so soon after his release is just wrong.

  140. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    BTW, expect LA Reid to get fired for this.
    ==============================
    Let’s hope so.

  141. The Killer Says:

    yo shyne, we tried being polite, but you need to quit…..go and listen to those songs you leaked and tell me if them shits is even remotely passable….fuck you bitch

  142. SilkCityP Says:

    I’m sorry but… That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever about his new flow!!! How in the world can sound have anything to do with being a different/better person??? I went back and listened to all recent tracks he has dropped and the lyrics aren’t that bad… its just the flow that ruins it. If you listen to Shyne now, he sounds like he is trying to bite a combination of styles he missed out on while doing his bid! I hear alot of Wayne in there, I hear some Hov in there too, and I hear alot of 50 in his flow now too… but at the end of the day, what in the world does that have anything to do with him becoming a new man??? Its simply flow and style… its not lyrics or content!

  143. Damian Gnarley Says:

    I thought his dad never claimed him/disowned him?

    ^

    na i heard his pops said he didn’t want him and Shyne disowned his dad. Maybe they reconciled when he got deported.

  144. Ghost Writer Says:

    verses Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    *contiunes to wear Kweli’s stolen Yankee fitted*

    *plays Get By*

    What?

    ^
    *dead*

  145. Shooter Says:

    Correct me if IM wrong, but those frestyles, isnt dude spittin (none0 the same old same old? is bitches, riches fame and etc etc….
    ^^^^

    Yeah he is

    which is why I dont co-sign Eskays “You don’t have to like it, but I think you have to respect it.” line. He’s not saying anything positive

    then again i’d be pretty content with just ripping off Def Jam for a couple million

  146. Rome Says:

    But to put the pressure on son to produce so soon after his release is just wrong.

    ^

    Exactly. I mean I don’t think people understand how much life has change since Shyne was locked up…

  147. The Killer Says:

    me and my cousin were related
    till I heard that he snitched
    shit made me so sick I regurgitated

  148. Teddy Says:

    man what a bullshit excuse man changed my flow to change the person i used to be wat a pile of shit he just cant rap anymore face it he spent to much time giving face

  149. Rome Says:

    First thing he needs to do is get away from that fat career-curse Irv Gotti…

    Damn, I wish homie well, but somebody tell him this is Chess not Checkers.

  150. The Killer Says:

    first came rakim
    then nas
    then saigon
    then jay electronic

  151. Shooter Says:

    You God damn right I fuck fans, King me

  152. Damian Gnarley Says:

    But really tho… niggas really think Shyne was that good? Niggas get caught in hype more than substance.

    Gimme ONEEEEEE Shyne quotable?

  153. rex hussla Says:

    I would think if a dude was truly passionate about MCing…and somebody was talented at it…they would come out of a 10 year bid a fucking beast [ll].

  154. SilkCityP Says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Shyne went back to the ways of Jamal Barrow as he says… Anybody that knows somebody who did a stretch in the box, you become institutionalized in the can more than anything. I had a homey who beat a heavy rap… and came home on the bible, no cursing, church, church… new individual… etc… That shit didn’t last 5 months, although he wasn’t back on the block… the rest of the habits came back they never went away… and he is an MC too… so the music went back to the original format that he attempted to leave behind!

  155. NovemberEnd Says:

    what has the south done to earn a hiphop honors tribute? #noshots #nohate

  156. Troyvul Says:

    So what happened to his throat in Jail. If this is what is to come RIP Max B

  157. Damian Gnarley Says:

    Thinking Shyne will do anything special on a record now…. After being in prison for oh so long is like thinking X, Ja Rule, Beanie Siegel, Lauryn Hill or any one of those had-it-butcha-lost-it niggas are gonna do good on a record.

    You had it, now ya lost it. The game has changed.

    LA Reid is a poor businessman.

  158. Shooter Says:

    So what happened to his throat in Jail.
    ^^^

    probably unspeakable things…

  159. Teddy Says:

    this dude is so full of shit have u heard the lyrics of messiah

    “burried in the dirt where the whitnesses is at, here the when i clap from the missle that i pack,

    tryin change my ass didn he say some retarded shit like “put a gun in your mout” in one of those horrible songs

  160. joffe jo Says:

    what has the south done to earn a hiphop honors tribute? #noshots #nohate

    ^^^^^^^

    damn…outkast the whole organized noise movement, you all’s god and savior little wayne, ugk, ti, showed you niggas how to independently get money and above all the majority of new east coast rappers biting slang and jackin beats from the south

  161. Damian Gnarley Says:

    ROFL @ eskay and some dude having beef on twitter.

  162. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    I would think if a dude was truly passionate about MCing…and somebody was talented at it…they would come out of a 10 year bid a fucking beast [ll].
    =================================
    I have to disagree.

    A 10 year stretch can sap a man’s spirit.

    Shyne’s chosen occupation was rap, so I would think the prospect of a big check would be motivation if the passion for it wasn’t there.

    He got the big check without having to make a single song first.

    Shyne won.

  163. joffe jo Says:

    So what happened to his throat in Jail.

    ^^^^^^

    some things we don’t need to know

  164. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Why’s es beefing with Noz?

    This blogger shit gets more “aggressive” by the day.

  165. Shooter Says:

    He got the big check without having to make a single song first.

    Shyne won.
    ^^^^

    mos’ definitely

  166. Rome Says:

    Off topic

    Tyga gets no love on Nah ? Any of y’all feeling his music?

  167. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    I crack on Tyga alot, but quietly, I have a bunch of his music on the hard drive.

    With some grooming, that kid can go somewhere.

  168. Shooter Says:

    Wiz Khalifa fills Nah’s quota for tatted up anorexic “hipster” rappers

    and he’s actually talented

  169. Dem Says:

    He got the big check without having to make a single song first.

    Shyne won.

    ^

    absolutely. As long as that money is his, no strings attached, fuck the states, fuck rap and fuck the nahright comment section.

  170. Damian Gnarley Says:

    Why’s es beefing with Noz?

    ^

    smh

  171. PW Says:

    Shyne needs to gtfoh. If he doesn’t know that his shit now sounds like hot garbage, he should just give it up.

  172. Shooter Says:

    33 points in the first half???

    Uh, good luck with that Miami…

  173. Shooter Says:

    Why’s es beefing with Noz?
    ^^^

    link??

  174. PAPERBOY Says:

    You just setting yourself up. You about to wake up a sleeping giant. If you dont come correct fifty gonna have a big 2010 on the strength of shyne!

  175. Rome Says:

    With some grooming, that kid can go somewhere.

    ^
    Yeaa..he’s pretty young…I think he needs to step out of the Young Money click and establish himself as an individual Artist. He had that song Coconut Juice. Not bad..but like you said…with some grooming, he can def go somewhere.

  176. Rome Says:

    Wiz Khalifa fills Nah’s quota for tatted up anorexic “hipster” rappers

    and he’s actually talented

    ^

    Its funny, people used to say Wiz stop Tyga’s whole swag. Wiz was barely tatted before Tyga came out. N out the blue, got tatted everywhere.

    But nonetheless they are different artists. Tyga has a better flow. Wiz can make better songs.

  177. Shooter Says:

    If you dont come correct fifty gonna have a big 2010 on the strength of shyne!
    ^^^^^

    that you Yayo?

  178. Rome Says:

    Copied*

  179. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Why’s es beefing with Noz?
    ^^^

    link??
    =========
    Twitter

  180. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    smh @ any rap blog that lets their #ripguru post get pushed off the front page by weed dedications and 50 cent movie posters.

  181. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    i swear some of you guys like rap blog beef more than you like rap music.

    @nahright you’re the guy that picks a fight at a funeral, huh? corny. i’m over here blogging, don’t you have some emails to cut and paste?
    =============================================
    Shots fired.

    Somebody grab the chalk & yellow tape & call the amberlamps

  182. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it.
    ======================================
    You shoulda left it like this es.

  183. rocstar Says:

    irv woulda been ceo of defjam by now if it wasnt for all that fuckery with the feds n murder inc. hes involved with IDJ on the low though

  184. hl Says:

    @nahright you’re the guy that picks a fight at a funeral, huh? corny. i’m over here blogging, don’t you have some emails to cut and paste?

    Truth is the worst kind of ether.

  185. Els Says:

    # AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    I crack on Tyga alot, but quietly, I have a bunch of his music on the hard drive.

    With some grooming, that kid can go somewhere.

    ____

    like what tracks

  186. Tonio Says:

    In hip-hop culture, I understand that your “street cred” doubles when you go into the joint, but coming out a “changed man” who makes shitty music (I’m still a fan) is still not cool. I definitely understand the street cred thing, but Shyne had so much potential. It’s like Things Fall Apart; you can’t expect to get kicked out of the Village (Hip-hop), and return [5+] years later and expect to have your yam garden (flow + lyricism) and mad dowry money for your daughter (album/single). Expect your music to be Zshared homie.

  187. Shooter Says:

    its funny, people used to say Wiz stop Tyga’s whole swag. Wiz was barely tatted before Tyga came out. N out the blue, got tatted ever
    ^^^^

    lol yeh definitely seems like he did bite that image off Tyga (n)

    Wiz kinda resembles the love child of Tyga and Jar Jar Binks

  188. Marcus2000 aka Marcus Robinson Says:

    Solar….what nigga says R.I.P. to himself at the end of a letter???

  189. CZ Says:

    *Daps all* whats good?

  190. CZ Says:

    Kia Shine>>>>Shyne
    Moses Malone>>>>Moses Levi

  191. Marcus2000 aka Marcus Robinson Says:

    Old Shyne shits on the New Shyne

  192. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    like what tracks
    ============

    My Glory, The Potential, Cali Love, Live Forever….he’s got a bunch of mixtape material.

  193. JihaD Says:

    if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it.
    ======================================
    You shoulda left it like this es.

    ^^^

    Amp, you know the bitchassness (no puffy) in Ashmi wouldn’t let him just leave it there… I mean, its not like 2dopeboyz, Rapradar, etc weren’t guilty of the same thing, and YN, Shake, or Meka decided to comment, which means that Ashmi’s panties got moist when he say that twit– he had no choice but to jump headfirst into the ether noz had waiting…

    JihaD

  194. Marcus2000 aka Marcus Robinson Says:

    Wiz Khalifa is the Simpsons version of Tyga

  195. Els Says:

    Tyga’s flow is dope

    Too bad anyone in YM is pretty much doomed. smfh

  196. Shooter Says:

    isnt Noz the dude who asked for donations from his readers so that he could buy a new laptop??

  197. Soulnos Says:

    Guy Fisher > Shyne

    I could care less if he did time, he’s terrible and needs to just quit. I don’t buy this “new” man stuff. He is just that same ole-bullshit-rapper trying to make a comeback and this is part of his marketing scheme.

    “Oh, I done changed in prison. That’s why my flow is shit.”

    And shame on you niggers who want to treat him like Moses coming off the mountain, just cause he did time.

  198. JihaD Says:

    nor>or

    JihaD

  199. Bricktop Says:

    Rip Guru.
    Cheers for the Dips!!!!
    Take it Personal beat >>>> yo Momma’s life!
    And I’m out for another few weeks.
    One.

  200. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    oh look everybody @noz took time out from sucking off Waka Flocka Flame to honor a real lyricist.

    ^

    check out lil ‘skay tryna go in.(n)

  201. Mag Says:

    He wanted to explain why there’s been such a drastic change in his rhyme style/flow since his release from prison.”

    -Fuck this NOISE Who cares bout this nigga?! I guess those Def Jam dollars are at work.

    and it’s big compliment if this is their P.R damage control move is hit Eskay and cool the Internets…

    *Golf Clap*

  202. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    isnt Noz the dude who asked for donations from his readers so that he could buy a new laptop??
    ====================================
    You gotta be shitting me lol.

  203. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    and it’s big compliment if this is their P.R damage control move is hit Eskay and cool the Internets…
    ===========================================
    It’s either a big compliment or more evidence that they have no idea what they’re doing in that building.

    And from the looks of these comments, I’m leaning toward the latter.

  204. hl Says:

    Miami can’t be serious right now.

  205. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    Miami can’t be serious right now.

    ^

    *cam true mag face*

    celtics!

  206. T Nelson Says:

    Yo Esk this is that old Nah Right type of shyt i miss…”real spit” as the kids would say lol

  207. sleep AKA YOUR MANS NOT ME IM ON A HORSE Says:

    nigga just stop shooting clubs up and keep the same voice. problem solved

  208. kevfrescura de talco Says:

    damn miamis bench look real sad tho. smh.

  209. hl Says:

    damn miamis bench look real sad tho. smh.

    lol…yeah, they do look quite depressed.

  210. Shooter Says:

    You gotta be shitting me lol.
    ^^^^

    lol, true story: cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=5336

  211. hl Says:

    Wade is fighting a lost cause right now.

  212. JihaD Says:

    Wade is fighting a lost cause right now.

    ^^

    Wade is leaving unless they bring in MAJOR help this off-season..

    JihaD

  213. Charles Oakley Says:

    don’t you have some emails to cut and paste?
    ^^
    that shit that make your soul burn slow…..

  214. Patron James Says:

    Soulnos Says:

    April 20th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
    Guy Fisher > Shyne

    ^

    never met him but god damn thats my nigga

  215. Mag Says:

    It’s either a big compliment or more evidence that they have no idea what they’re doing in that building.

    And from the looks of these comments, I’m leaning toward the latter.
    ^

    That report about Def Jam signing him sounded like a bad April fools joke. and yes I’m leaning on the latter too.

  216. verses Says:

    Blog Beef = Jenny jones and Fab cryin over who started the scarf thingo first = Gay.

    Knowledge God.

  217. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    I don’t know who’s lamer, Noz for asking for “donations” or cats who actually sent dude $$$.

    I like the site and all but if I’m correct, Noz gets paid to write for other sites.

    Can’t knock the hustle, but I’ll keep my lil bit of change, thank you.

  218. Rome Says:

    We need Wade in Toronto…If Bosh can’t convince him to be a Raptor…we are officially fucked. Smh…at the number losses the raps have taken

    Billups
    T-Mac
    Vince Carter

  219. verses Says:

    # Shooter Says:
    April 20th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    You gotta be shitting me lol.
    ^^^^

    lol, true story: cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=5336

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The late great Noz (C) The Fat Fuck Boy Bol.

  220. Dem Says:

    nigga just stop shooting clubs up and keep the same voice.

    ^

    no one in jamal’s inner circle can come up with this simple advice? not one?

  221. hl Says:

    I wonder how well the donations went. Considering the people that go to his site probably don’t even pay for the music they go there to discuss.

  222. The Shot Clock Says:

    wait didnt Shyne just put out a 50 diss record? it aint like this nigga aint rhyming bout the same ol gangsta shit

    being a changed man doesnt mean he has to be a terrible emcee…..lol @ this explanation of why he’s garbage now.

  223. verses Says:

    Shyne feat. Malcolm X “There Will Be Blood (50 Cent Diss)”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    oh Gawd. This is terrible…………………….

  224. Dem Says:

    lol, true story: cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=5336

    ^

    lemme guess, he just wanted a beer?

  225. sleep AKA YOUR MANS NOT ME IM ON A HORSE Says:

    i get mad when they put wade in the same sentence as lebron. nigga isnt even in the same library

  226. Dem Says:

    Shyne feat. Malcolm X “There Will Be Blood (50 Cent Diss)”

    ^

    yeah, this shit makes me want to yell “getcho hand out my pocket!”

  227. Rome Says:

    oh Gawd. This is terrible…………………….

    ^
    ahaaaaaa *jada voice*

  228. JDS just looks at her, looks at her... Says:

    Solar….what nigga says R.I.P. to himself at the end of a letter???

    ^^

    hilarious

  229. k-rob Says:

    he shot up a club and hit innocent ppl, the dude that threw money at diddy is chillin somewhere. shyne was never nice get over it.name a hit other than the barrington levy track?
    LA reid need to be fired ASAP.why niggas making excuses for a wack wash up rapper who threw his life away. this is the wrong message because yall respect dude for shooting innocent unarmed ppl in a club not a street shit.that is the only reason i see some ppl justifying the wack ass rapper, because he sure as know evidence that he was nice.

  230. Shooter Says:

    shoutouts to Bol, morbidly obese, half blind and apparently living in abject poverty and he still never asked me for some cash

  231. Hi Hater! Says:

    Hey Shyne!!! You’re DONE!!! You aint going nowhere with this garbage ass flow

    ok, bye!!

  232. aaron Says:

    bangs>shyne

  233. BooBoo Says:

    fuck outta here with that dumb shit… quit acting like a diva and don’t change your flow, mature with your rhymes… smh

  234. Logic Speaks Says:

    Changing your lyrical content is fine, changing EVERYTHING about how you rap is not. I’m probably the only nigga in Cali still pumpin Shyne’s old shit in the summertime with the windows down, and I’ll be the first to tell you this new shit is trash.

  235. Huro Says:

    Shyne ..you putting out a album and switch up your flow to a wack one
    and you expect to shift that album and make your payment back ?

    Nope..you done

  236. D Says:

    BUT HE’S STILL SPITTIN “GUN/MURDER/KILL” “I’M A KINGPIN” ECT

    DON’T MAKE MUCH SENSE

  237. MisUnderStood Says:

    Let’s be clear!! Shyne is not a Gangsta or G!! He’s a dumb n*gga who shot in the air at the club…He’s the dumb n*gga who had a poor defense strategy on his trial…and he’s also the dumb n*gga who came out jail with a f@cked up hair cut and his security guards leather jacket.

    His rhymes and flow were okay at best before he went to jail…now he’s straight sleepy status!

    I can’t believe Eskay or whoever wrote this post wrote 4 paragraphs dedicated to someone this corny…yet spends their entire life sh*tting on 50 who actually went against the grain, heated up the streets by himself (before the Eminem and Dre co-sign), got his crew paid, and put out HOT gangtsa music consistently.

    If gangsta music isn’t your cup of tea…then don’t celebrate all of the weak gangsta music you post and sh*t on 50 who all of his so called competition respects and listens to his music!

    Shyne is the only dude who went to prison and came out skinnier…tells you he was probably washing draws for men!! Def Jam…I hope he didn’t cash the check…otherwise LA Reid’s ass is outta here!

  238. parodi Says:

    bullshit..

    he’s lost it. PERIOD.

  239. Nah Right » Shyne & Rihanna - Rockstar (Remix) Says:

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  240. AFGun Says:

    damn this nigga actually giviin an explanation? so wat r we all supppose to b like “oooooh thats why, ok cool then in that case”. no1 wants to hear that wack shit. u want a drastiic change, do somethiing else for a living. this nigga’s a tru jew if he’s expecting empathy.. kill yaself homo

  241. JohnDough Says:

    damn this nigga actually giviin an explanation? so wat r we all supppose to b like “oooooh thats why, ok cool then in that case”. no1 wants to hear that wack shit. u want a drastiic change, do somethiing else for a living. this nigga’s a tru jew if he’s expecting empathy.. kill yaself homo

    ^^

    Cold but the truth always is!

  242. the real sharpy Says:

    the general consenus of the comments seems to be,

    peeps ain’t feelin shyne’s new flow at all,
    & that u can’t say i’m changing myself, my attitude & my flow, whilst still talkin about the same subject matter,

    my opinion: pre 2001 shyne po ain’t dead, he’s just rappin funny right now,

    DEF JAM: ”can you still rap like you used to?”
    SHYNE: yes, but i’n not gunna

    ME: 2001 shyne, will be back soon, lol

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