Video: Souls Of Mischief Talk G.O.A.T Criteria
“What’s your criteria? Who made the most money or who has the most skills?”
SoulCulture.TV caught up with Souls Of Mischief in London last month and the discussion turned to the frequently debated subject of The Greatest rappers Of All Time.
In this mini roundtable discussion, Opio and Phesto discuss the flaws of corporate lists – such as MTV’s – and the variety of factors one should consider when assessing The Greatest Of All Time, and Tajai insists (contrary to Baby’s recent comments, “How can you be the best if you don’t make the most money?”) that innovation is the most important factor. Then he puts it out there – “Name one thing Jay-Z or Lil Wayne brought to Hip Hop that’s new? …They brought nothing new to Hip Hop. Zero.” – before giving his own Top 10 G.O.A.T list.
As dumb as Baby’s quote was, I don’t think you can fairly assess a GOAT candidate without considering sales as a small part of the equation. But what do I know.
December 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Dewill Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I tried to listen to MOTM all the way through and couldn’t that shit was depressing as hell!! I wanted to summersault out the second floor window… Is he even a rapper???
***Poor Scottie, lol…yo, I listened to “A Kid Called Cudi”, during my workout last week, and that jawn was 75% fire…too bad he deviated on a Wyclefian tangent…
icon(trillbert arenas) Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The Shot Clock aka Nah King Cole Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
@ Icon
i’mma have to dl the Listening now, arent I….
***definitely…I actually copped the retail, which is saying something, lol…
December 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
LondonBloke: Internahtional Man of Mystery Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
66K and you live at home?
WTF
#no shots btw
^^
none taken my man (ll) Ive only been home, outta school, since last Dec….so almost a year now. I was gonna grab an apartment, but I figure if I save up enough for a house I’ll be able to turn a nice profit on it in a couple years. Im only 24 so it isnt that bad
December 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
But what do I know
^
how to eat as many burgers as humanly possible in one sitting
December 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Damn, 93 Til Infinity, for real…go away…
December 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Top 10 Selling Artist Of This Decade:
1. Eminem 32.2
2. The Beatles 30
3. Tim McGraw 24.6
4. Toby Keith 24.4
5. Britney Spears 22.9
6. Kenny Chesney 22
7. Linkin Park 21.4
8. Nelly 21.2
9. Creed 20.5
10. Jay-Z 20.3
*chucks deuces*
*peels out……….on a camel*
December 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Sales wont matter in 10yrs
December 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Van Gogh didnt sell shit when he was alive, now he is one of the GOATs
December 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
That was one of the most intelligent conversations I have heard about a top ten or how to classify the best of all time. It’s hard to take anything away from the originators.
December 10th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
NAS >
if u got an old school list wit g rap, kane, krs, rakim and ll
top 5 and ten with delasoul, chuck d etc
then add NAS in the first place of the next generation
before jay and way before wayne
for the top ten
NaS, 3000, Em, Biggie, Pun, Big L, Bun, Face, Jay, Jada
kind of this ish iz right
wayne is still young but not a great skilled emcee !
December 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
LUPE > wayne
so that’s major
LUPE, J COLE, BLU, …
are in for the new new generation
for the next ten years from now
peace!
December 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
As dumb as Baby’s quote was, I don’t think you can fairly assess a GOAT candidate without considering sales as a small part of the equation. But what do I know.
^^^
word cuz as far as i know Souls Of Mischief had 1 gold album & the rest went triple nothing so of course they wont factor in sales.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:02 am
If you only focus on sales you’ve missed the bus before you even reach the stop homie! Did you realize that Hieroglyphics has been independent for over a decade and own their own label? They own their merchandise so if you know about hiero you know what it is. I’m from Oakland so I got to rep for my own.
December 11th, 2009 at 1:25 am
for the top ten
NaS, 3000, Em, Biggie, Pun, Big L, Bun, Face, Jay, Jada
snoop fathered them all . in one way or another . as far as the ‘old new school ‘ is concerned
December 11th, 2009 at 1:30 am
ALL THIS MAKES ME THINK IS “WHEREISCHARLESHAMILTON”(.blogspot.com)
December 11th, 2009 at 8:09 am
What no KRS ONE?
December 11th, 2009 at 10:28 am
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December 13th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Opio is stupid, sayin jay hasnt brought anything to hip hop new. Asides from making great music jay has discovered some of the best producers, just blaze and kanye to name a few. Man i love the hieroglyphics i been to 3 hiro shows but opio is just an old man, so i he likes the rappers he came up on. I fell his top ten thats his opinion.
December 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
If Rakim himself puts Jay in a GOAT convo why cant they? And how did Wayne take his style from Jay if Jay never brought anything new to hiphop? So Rakim, Kool G Rap, BDK, SlickRick & Scarface all started writing rhymes in their head before Jay did?? I understand the money & the sales argument to an extent but, “Name one thing Jay-Z brought to Hip Hop that’s new? …brought nothing new to Hip Hop. Zero.”……Seriously??