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Jimmy hops on Elz’s “Forever” freestyle.

Tobb Cobain of Skull Gang (um, yea…) on the hook.

Juelz Santana ft. Jim Jones & Tobb Cobain - Rep Harlem Forever

UHTN

Reagan Era mixtape coming soon.

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271 Responses to “Juelz Santana ft. Jim Jones - Rep Harlem Forever”

Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
*Reps Harlem Forever*
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

That being said, he has some severe character flaws that I’ve begun to see more clearly as I’ve gotten older. I don’t like fake people. People who are disingenuous. Can’t stand it.
^^^

Amp i understand u are the dvils advocate and i know u listen to quite a bit of hov, but my thing is u say the flaws the man has (we all have some) but when i bring up actual things this man has tried to do the community and when i bring up his business practices of nvr stealing money from an artist or using a contract to his advantage u say nuthing…Now if u want to bring up the Roc, Dame has admitted that hov just wanted the masters of his first album and the roc name was theirs and they did not want to trade ok, fine…so la reid as a business man know he had to keep hov on so he offered hov all his masters and hov says yes ill take it, whats wrong with that, now roc a wear, dame accepted an amount as a payoff and even bragged that he got a nice check and laughed how that clothing line was going to be over..hov waited and rcvd even more, whats wrong with that?? Jay did some of the best rapping for ten years and he dame and biggs got rich beyond anyones belief, and than jay said ok, i want to try sumthin new…wtf is wrong with that my dude
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
But you know what Iceberg Slim, you’re entitled to your views & opinions and I’m entitled to mine.

No shots or hard feelings b.

^^^

I know this, i feel u know the history more than sum other commenters but i do feel at times for our culture hov gets a bad rap, for been successful, and its like that in our hoods also, if one dude does good and moves up the ladder the majority talk shtit about ole boy or start rumours instead of following his footsteps or asking dude how can i get on….Jay reached out to jada kiss signed him to rocafella and jada just dropped a very successful album, hov traded musiq sould child (whens the last time u heard about him) for fabolous and fabos doing well, he let go of the past and offered nas a very nice deal to come to def jam and let nas dropped wuteva he wanted and support the art and the title regardless on the public outcry…but still jay is all of whats wrong with hip hop to many
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
*giddily douse self with frothy white geysers of bubbly*…. NO HOMO….
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I believe this with all my heart harlem world is the best album to ever come out of harlem……….Waits for the shots like 2pac
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
hov is a big lame. dude has no game. he paid the hottest chick in the game to wear his chain
Premier Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
When Juelz said swagger i stopped the track
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
fuck what a cracker thinks (c) Prodigy. Em is talented, but he he’s a one trick pony. i’ve never heard an em song that moved me and i have every album. he’s funny and clever with word play, but i have never heard any non-white person say he moves them. fuck. it pisses me off. any hov record > shady’s life *exlclude 8 mile…i teared up when rabbit died*
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I hate when kids come on nahright we were having a good ole school hip hop discussions than the short fat kids gotta come in with dumb jokes……join the gym nigga
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Pecklo Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
fuck what a cracker thinks (c) Prodigy. Em is talented, but he he’s a one trick pony. i’ve never heard an em song that moved me and i have every album. he’s funny and clever with word play, but i have never heard any non-white person say he moves them. fuck. it pisses me off. any hov record > shady’s life *exlclude 8 mile…i teared up when rabbit died*

^^^

Thats all i was saying earlier
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
# NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm

*giddily douse self with frothy white geysers of bubbly*…. NO HOMO….
^^^
funniest avatar ever
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
em is a great lyricist. that is all
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
^^^

Thats all i was saying earlier

>>i concur. no one doubts his talent. he has the trl crowd on lock. you just never see a car full of black ppl bumping “real slim shady”
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
kintell Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
First m&m does a song with people 50 hate like lil wayne and kanye

And than dr dre brings back the Game in the studio….

50 can u see the writing on the wall??? (Like my girl B B)

^^^ 1-em did that song for labron james’s movie/documentary.
2-that pic of dre with snoop and game was from 2006…YOU LOST.
^^^

Check the twitter thats a recent pic my dude, calm down and 2nd 4 years ago m&m wud have nvr went to a video shoot with 2 mc’s that 50 has called out many and many times b4
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Pecklo Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
^^^

Thats all i was saying earlier

>>i concur. no one doubts his talent. he has the trl crowd on lock. you just never see a car full of black ppl bumping “real slim shady”

^^^

See elvis after he heard chuck berry
Premier Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
# Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm

fuck what a cracker thinks (c) Prodigy. Em is talented, but he he’s a one trick pony. i’ve never heard an em song that moved me and i have every album. he’s funny and clever with word play, but i have never heard any non-white person say he moves them. fuck. it pisses me off. any hov record > shady’s life *exlclude 8 mile…i teared up when rabbit died*
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just because his music doesnt move you doesnt mean hes a one trick pony evrybody has a different artist that they like and connect with on different levels everybody is different theyre not the same b.
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
you just never see a car full of black ppl bumping “real slim shady”

_____

but you will see a car full of black dudes bumpin some gucci…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Duro Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
you just never see a car full of black ppl bumping “real slim shady”

_____

but you will see a car full of black dudes bumpin some gucci…
^^^

I think a car full of white people will still be bumping gucci….gucci is a coon
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Just because his music doesnt move you doesnt mean hes a one trick pony evrybody has a different artist that they like and connect with on different levels everybody is different theyre not the same b.

>>> i agree. you missed my point, though. i like seinfeld and my girl hates the show. that doesn’t take away from it’s viability to me. i’m saying em never crossed over to urban markets like jay. to be among the elite i feel he needs that mass crossover. he needs more (diverse) people
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
who da the fuck cares how many dudes are in a car listening to Eminem…have ya’ll ever stop to think that MMLP,SSLP all the other Em albums arent car music….seriously who wants to listen to K.I.M. or Kill You on the highway?….
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
gucci is a coon hahaha but he is on constant rotation in these dorms on my nearly all white campus. not that it’s a race thing. i fuck with all genres. most ppl do.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
you just never see a car full of black ppl bumping “real slim shady”
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You won’t see a car of black people bumping The Beatles either. Does that mean they’re not a great band?

I listen o Em in moderation cause I gotta be in the mood but there’s no denying his skill level.

Anyone who lets race stop them from enjoying art is in serious need of a good talking to.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I agree, thats the only way that m&m lacks, is he nvr crossed over…on the real ive heard more ninjas jammin robin thicke and jon b that i have ever heard jammin Em….em stans dont get mad im just stating facts
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
who da the fuck cares how many dudes are in a car listening to Eminem…have ya’ll ever stop to think that MMLP,SSLP all the other Em albums arent car music….seriously who wants to listen to K.I.M. or Kill You on the highway?….

my apt is too nice for that kind of music (c) yeezy
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
# Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm

gucci is a coon hahaha but he is on constant rotation in these dorms on my nearly all white campus. not that it’s a race thing. i fuck with all genres. most ppl do.

^^
Thats all i needed to hear. Gucci is going gold or platinum. Even maino managed to get a gold single.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
B.S aside i miss notorious big, listening to life after death last night and dude was 23 and 24 when he made that, my god that was great art, the songs are so vivid..u can actually see the stories
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Niggas need to get off this “Me and my friends don’t listen to him so his music isnt all that”…..
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Real talk, i was kinda disturbed when my mom saw jay on Oprah and told me he seems like a real nice young man….I did not know how to take that
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I agree, thats the only way that m&m lacks, is he nvr crossed over…on the real ive heard more ninjas jammin robin thicke and jon b that i have ever heard jammin Em….em stans dont get mad im just stating facts

^^
THIS
that was my point. in an aforementioned post i said i don’t let race dictate my taste. i’m chilling to grizzly bear watching the lsu game right now. i’m just saying em never crossed over and his stans are rarely (or never) black or any other non-white race.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
How many of y’all seen 8 mile?
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Niggas need to get off this “Me and my friends don’t listen to him so his music isnt all that”…..
^^^
I listen to em, cause im a hip hop head, but im telling u the god honest truth, he was nvr played in barber shops or at block parties or just riding around in ninjas car,im sorry but on a whole he just is considered a court jester by the afro american community
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
How many of y’all seen 8 mile?

>>>dude i aleady big-upped 8 mile in this thread. still not my point
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
How many of y’all seen 8 mile?
^^^^
great movie (even though it kinda bites purple rain and plays the white guy coming up aganist blacks to a tee)
and a great soundtrack
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
have never heard any non-white person say he moves them.
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Then you need to meet some different people cause I have.

Just one example…

Me my brother & this bad ass black bi chick were smoking in the crib awhile back and “I’m A Criminal” came on iTunes.

I watched in surprise as this chick & my brother (who’s a year younger then me) spit that shit line for line.

I felt left out…but not left out to learn the lyrics to the song myself lol.
Remixznflow Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Then you need to meet some different people cause I have.

Just one example…

Me my brother & this bad ass black bi chick were smoking in the crib awhile back and “I’m A Criminal” came on iTunes.

I watched in surprise as this chick & my brother (who’s a year younger then me) spit that shit line for line.

I felt left out…but not left out to learn the lyrics to the song myself lol.

^
hip hop always surprises me like that… other day i was goin home from work and this old lady was bumpin dre… shit had me in tears.. i honked at her and gave her the head nod and kept it movin…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
My fav. Em verse

I’m tired of being white trash, broke and always poor
Tired of taking pop bottles back to the party store
I’m tired of not having a phone
Tired of not having a home to have one in if I did have it on
Tired of not driving a BM
Tired of not working at GM, tired of wanting to be him
Tired of not sleeping without a Tylenol PM
Tired of not performing in a packed coliseum
Tired of not being on tour
Tired of fucking the same blonde whore after work
in the back of a Contour
I’m tired of faking knots with a stack of ones
Having a lack of funds and resorting back to guns
Tired of being stared at
I’m tired of wearing the same damn Nike Air hat
Tired of stepping in clubs wearing the same pair of Lugz
Tired of people saying they’re tired of hearing me rap about drugs
Tired of other rappers who ain’t bringin half the skill as me
saying they wasn’t feeling me on “Nobody’s As Ill As Me”
I’m tired of radio stations telling fibs
A tribe called quest aka Yo Lurker, Im really happy for you & imma let you finish, but my comment is one of the greatest comments of all time Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Juelz verse started off dope, then…
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
in statistics that would be the mathematical equivalent of an outlier. this is a numerical principle that suggests there are always annomalies. however, these sporadic derivations do not compute statistically and are not aggregated to form the line…basically, she’s not enough. that sounds fun, but she wouldn’t show up on the empirically relevant graphing calculator of urban tastes. i now the lyrics to lots of em songs. verbatim. you just won’t catch me making a playlist for personal enjoyment featuring any em song that isn’t renegade.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I listen to em, cause im a hip hop head, but im telling u the god honest truth, he was nvr played in barber shops or at block parties or just riding around in ninjas car,im sorry but on a whole he just is considered a court jester by the afro american community
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
agian what the hell does the degenerates in your barbershop have to do with his talent and quality of music?….again who the fuck wants to listen to criminal while there getting their shapeup….MMLP isnt played for general listening its for individuals headphones…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
I listen to em, cause im a hip hop head, but im telling u the god honest truth, he was nvr played in barber shops or at block parties or just riding around in ninjas car,im sorry but on a whole he just is considered a court jester by the afro american community
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
agian what the hell does the degenerates in your barbershop have to do with his talent and quality of music?….again who the fuck wants to listen to criminal while there getting their shapeup….MMLP isnt played for general listening its for individuals headphone

^^^

Our point is his music nvr crossed over that is all….
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
hip hop always surprises me like that… other day i was goin home from work and this old lady was bumpin dre… shit had me in tears.. i honked at her and gave her the head nod and kept it movin…
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LOL

That’s why you never can really tell who’s into what. Especially niggas on the streets.

It’s kinda considered corny to be bumping Em in the whip, but I bet you most people have at least one Em album in the collection.

BTW, Latino’s (Puerto Ricans specifically) fuck wit Em heavy.

My neighbor in Brooklyn had every Em album.

And he was a street nigga too. I used to think him blasting “Lose Yourself” was a cornball move but hey, I like Charles Hamilton, so who am i to judge.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
And u must not be black, because to trully be hot and to get played in a black mans barber shop is hard feat…that tells me u r not a black man or a black man that keeps his gq up
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I even jammed Nelly first album………..waits for the shots….You can find me in st louieeeeee
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
you just won’t catch me making a playlist for personal enjoyment featuring any em song that isn’t renegade.
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I just took Relapse off the iPod & The Eminem Show still gets occasional burn.

His other shit, not so much.
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
BTW, Latino’s (Puerto Ricans specifically) fuck wit Em heavy.

>>no, they rock is marshall’s exclusive clothes heavy hahaha . i keed i keed
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
what the fuck is going on in here
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I always liked nelly country grammer cause it was such a pop song, but the hook was talking bout coming down ur street in a streetsweeper and killing everyone on it
and smoking weed

Hmm, I’m going down down baby yo street in a Range Rover
Street Sweeper baby cocked ready to let it go
Shimmy Shimmy cocoa wha listen to it now
Light it up and take a puff, pass it to me now
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
the eminem show was dope
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I always liked nelly country grammer cause it was such a pop song, but the hook was talking bout coming down ur street in a streetsweeper and killing everyone on it
and smoking weed

>>i went to a private school in charlotte, nc and that played at our dances…everyone loved it. everyone= all the white kids, the two persian kids, and the 4 of us niggras that went there
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Hmm, I’m going down down baby yo street in a Range Rover
Street Sweeper baby cocked ready to let it go
Shimmy Shimmy cocoa wha listen to it now
Light it up and take a puff, pass it to me now
===============================
The dirty version is nearly a completely different song from the video version in terms of the context.

Nelly was talking some hood shit on there.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Pecklo Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I always liked nelly country grammer cause it was such a pop song, but the hook was talking bout coming down ur street in a streetsweeper and killing everyone on it
and smoking weed

>>i went to a private school in charlotte, nc and that played at our dances…everyone loved it. everyone= all the white kids, the two persian kids, and the 4 of us niggras that went there

^^^^

I was at uconn when that came out and when i wud go to one of my white homeboys apts to smoke, they wud always put in country grammer to make me feel cool, like that was a gangst cd…thats how i got to know the album….hate to admit it, but we ed made the album not so bad
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
lol they put on nelly to make you feel cool

LMAO
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Duro Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
lol they put on nelly to make you feel cool

LMAO

^^^

If u ever get in a car with white people and ur black they always change the radio to a hip hop or urban station…i just smh
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
damn wash is bout to lose to ND
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
# Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm

And u must not be black, because to trully be hot and to get played in a black mans barber shop is hard feat…that tells me u r not a black man or a black man that keeps his gq up
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Our point is his music nvr crossed over that is all….
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wtf is crossover mean?….Eminem is respected by most black listeners….there are rappers like T.I. and Wayne who i respect their talent but their music dont move me….i never hear anybody bumping C3 or Paper Trail in the car or in the barber shops…they only time their music come on is when the radio single is out….does that mean they havent “crossover”….no i just means nobody from my neck of the woods bump their shit…stop generalizing your katrina stricken area as to who listen to what bamma….
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Another fact, when i used to do my late night creeping in college i would always play E.I. in the whip over to the place////If the head right, nelly there ever night…..
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Another fact, when i used to do my late night creeping in college i would always play E.I. in the whip over to the place………..if the head right, nelly there ever night…..
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Another fact, when i used to do my late night creeping in college i would always play E.I. in the whip over to the place………..if the head right, nelly there ever night…..

*dead* that’s hilarious…on that note, i’m out for date night with the lady.
*steals idea*
*puts E.I. on playlist for the ride*
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Age Are We Talking About Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
# Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm

And u must not be black, because to trully be hot and to get played in a black mans barber shop is hard feat…that tells me u r not a black man or a black man that keeps his gq up
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Our point is his music nvr crossed over that is all….
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wtf is crossover mean?….Eminem is respected by most black listeners….there are rappers like T.I. and Wayne who i respect their talent but their music dont move me….i never hear anybody bumping C3 or Paper Trail in the car or in the barber shops…they only time their music come on is when the radio single is out….does that mean they havent “crossover”….no i just means nobody from my neck of the woods bump their shit…stop generalizing your katrina stricken area as to who listen to what bamma….
^^^^

White boy calm down cause u listen to em with all ur heart and we see him as a clown…Not sure what u mean by Katrina i live in Fl, went to college at uconn and got my doctorates at uf…so in short white boy, thats more education than ur mom and dad with a salary that matches…..and this is all facts…never been a “bamma”
Pecklo Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
ps…i have a B.A in poli\sci and history and i’m currently getting a dual degree. MBA|MPP…far from a bamma, but still don’t bump em…sorry
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Only Nelly album I purchased was Nellyville, still his best work IMO.

But Nelly shoulda signed somebody other then Murphy Lee & Ali & Gipp when he was hot enough to do so cause even though he’s pretty irrelevant right now, another dope, young talent could be keeping him somewhat in the limelight.

Fuck happened to Vokal?

I thought his jerseys were aight.

Never copped on though.
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
My 2 cents : Eminem is one of the most technically gifted/impressive emcees of all time. The Slim Shady LP has held up surprisingly well, The Marshall Mathers LP has not. Eminem Show was a bloated near masterpiece/classic, and Encore was a growth conceptually but a regression skill wise. Relapse sucked. So do 80% of his beats. That is all.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Marhall Mathers LP will always be my favorite…i wud have luvd to been in amsterdamn when they recorded that
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
uconn and got my doctorates at uf…so in short white boy, thats more education than ur mom and dad with a salary that matches
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wanna a biscuit?
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Eminem is respected by most black listeners
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Black listeners who have the ability to appreciate the art and not those ignant niggas who just wanna hear gun rap/dance rap all day. some niggas will never get Em.
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I bought Country Grammar, and I actually kind of dug it. I haven’t heard any other Nelly album in any capacity since. Which is a point of pride for me.
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
smh @ niggs bragging about their paper degrees to prove to someone their not a bamma.
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
pac is still the best artist to walk thru hiphop.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Relapse sucked.
===============
I really don’t think so. There are joints on there but you have to be ready for a Slim Shady album. 3 A. M. is masterful. As vivid as any Halloween movie. Underground, Medicine Ball, Same Song & Dance, Hello, all up to par & Dre had some heat on there as well.

Relapse 2 will prolly be more Em then Shady so it’ll prolly be more accessible to some, but I think Relapse is easily in the top 10 Hip-Hop albums of 09..
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Duro Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
smh @ niggs bragging about their paper degrees to prove to someone their not a bamma.
^^^

Bamma = country poor no shoe wearing, no style un edumacted person…was just stating the facts
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
cfb needs to restructure overtime. it should be sudden death
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
pac is still the best artist to walk thru hiphop.

^^
Nah. Dude couldn’t even muster a decent album until his third try. I’ve been impressed by some of the bootleg versions of his unreleased tracks, and Makaveli is a classic. But All Eyez on me is the definition of hit and miss, and IMO, Me Against the World might be THE most overrrated album in hiphop history.
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
he spoke the truth.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
the only 2pac album i fucks with start-to-finish is 2pacalypse Now
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
But All Eyez on me is the definition of hit and miss, and IMO, Me Against the World might be THE most overrrated album in hiphop history.
=========================================
All Eyez On Me is a classic album.

Classic.

MATW has it’s low points, but it’s highs? Brilliance…

Now I’m lost and I’m weary, so many tears
I’m suicidal, so don’t stand near me
My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer
to embrace an early death, now there’s nothin left
There was no mercy on the streets, I couldn’t rest
I’m barely standin, bout to go to pieces, screamin peace
And though my soul was deleted, I couldn’t see it
I had my mind full of demons tryin to break free
They planted seeds and they hatched, sparkin the flame
inside my brain like a match, such a dirty game
No memories, just a misery
Paintin a picture of my enemies killin me, in my sleep
Will I survive til the mo’nin, to see the sun
Please Lord forgive me for my sins, cause here I come…
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
the only 2pac album i fucks with start-to-finish is 2pacalypse Now
=====================================
Strictly For My N.I.G.G.A.’s had joints on there too.

“I got a head, but ain’t no screws in it…”

Thug Life is ill too.
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
& Dre had some heat on there as well.

^^
I found Dre’s work on the project kind of listless and uninspired. And while 3am was dope, the album never again reaches that height. The key to his early maniac records was the humor, which stood out in even his most vile tracks. Now it just seems vile for the sake of being vile. I wouldn’t have minded a Slim Shady persona LP, I just would have preferred a good one.
PINCH Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
nahright sounds white
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
2pac legacy has been tarnished by oversaturation of his music since is death
Beave Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Relapse was WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN as an album
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Thug Life is ill too.

^^
Thug Life actually was kind of dope.

I’d agree that All Eyez is a classic based on influence alone, but I also believe that an album doesn’t have to be a flawless masterpiece (which All Eyez clearly isn’t) to attain the classic tag.

So Many Tears was one verse two long, but I fuck with Temptations heavy (n).
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I found Dre’s work on the project kind of listless and uninspired. And while 3am was dope, the album never again reaches that height. The key to his early maniac records was the humor, which stood out in even his most vile tracks. Now it just seems vile for the sake of being vile.
=======================================
See, i thought Dre’s work saved some of the albums weaker moments.
While you’re right about the album peaking right away with 3 AM, I thought there was enough lyrically to keep it entertaining throughout.

I also found some of the shock shit kinda regressive, but the moments where Em allowed himself to get really dark are inspired.

Relapse 2 should knock Relapse off the top Hip-Hop albums of 09, but R4lapse set the stage.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
2Pac also suffer from the same problem that Nas post-God Son suffers from and that is terrible beat selection
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
too > two
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I’d agree that All Eyez is a classic based on influence alone, but I also believe that an album doesn’t have to be a flawless masterpiece (which All Eyez clearly isn’t) to attain the classic tag.
^^^ Agreed.

So Many Tears was one verse two long, but I fuck with Temptations heavy
===========================================
Temptations, Dear Mama, Me Against The World, If I Die Tonight, Lord Knows, Death Around The Corner…MATW has some of Pac’s most potent shit up until that time. When he says it inspired Big’s Ready To Die, I believe him.
Rozco Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
I will never understand the relapse hate…and this is coming from a guy who fucking hated “we made you” when it first came out, than 3 am dropped and I knew em still had it, and looking back at we made you in the CONTEXT OF THE ALBUM, it’s fucking perfect.

MMLP>Relapse>Slim Shady>Eminem Show>Encore imho

I’m half white/half latino, and i grew up in crackerville U.S.A., 45 miles outside of detroit. honestly when em first dropped I almost couldnt stand that motherfucker after six months because he was being hyped up as the greatest white musician (not rapper, “ARTIST”) since fucking kurt cobain, shit was disgusting. To make it worse I just couldn’t stand the hypocrisy of him being the most popular rapper on the planet for a period, if that was a black dude rapping about raping his mom and killing his girlfriend the mainstream would’ve never heard of eminem regardless of talent….anyway I agree with most people that Em is one of the greatest technical rappers of all time, but him dissapearing for a couple years to get focused made me beyond happy, because he came back and dropped the second best album of his career and it got universally “meh’d” because the great white hope hype had severely died down.

If you take time to listen to relapse, it tells an extremely well thought out story about his entire career and drug addiction/rehabilitation, its pretty amazing actually, how it got worse reviews than an album of straight fart jokes and triumph the insult dog disses is beyond me (and yes, i understood the “concept” behind encore, what blows my mind is how the defenders of that album don’t get relapse….)
Rozco Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Now that the convo is on pac…coincidentally i’ve been playing me against the world in constant rotation for some reason lately, it’s always been my favorite 2pac album, his most consistent imo, and best lyrically.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Just opened my 2nd bottle and i have DMX “Aint No Sunshine” on repeat and up next is “Dmx AYO KATO!!!!-
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Pac was the best. Just admit it. When it comes to content, delivery, charisma which basically everything Pac was the best.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
I DONT KNOW BUT A TRULLY GOOD HIP HOP MOMENT, WAS WHEN DMX GOT OUT OF JAIL AND WENT STRAIGHT TO MTV TO PERFORM AINT NO SUNSHINE, THATS WHEN X WAS THE NINJA
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Rozco gets it.

And who said lurkers were worthless?
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
pAC IS IN MY TOP 5, I SEEN PAC MAKE GROWN MEN CRY, ONE TIME ME AND MY BOY WAS RIDING AND LISENING TO DEAR MOMMA AND I LOOKED OVER AND HE WAS TEARING UP, I NVR SAID ANYTHING TO HIM BOUT IT ………BUT AFTER THAT I ALWAYS RESPECTED PAC
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
mY FAV. PAC ALBUMS, ME AGAINST THE WORLD AND MAKEVILLI…..I need to get away is the ultimate song to play a chick if u tryin to steal her from her man
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
and up next is “Dmx AYO KATO!!!!-
=========================
That video where X breaks down and cries (no Starbury) gets me every time. That’s what separates Pac & X from cats like 50.

They show their vulnerabilities and justified their anger.

Nowadays these nigga be acting like Superthug when that shit ain’t real.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
And im a jay stan, but when its dark and hell is hot came out, i swear i nvr heard anything like that b4, i thought x was going to be the new pac………..”If u gotta daughter older than 15, im ra pe her, take her, in the living room floor, right there in front of ya”
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
i got his first 2 albums which were great. What are the next top three i should cop
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
and up next is “Dmx AYO KATO!!!!-
=========================
That video where X breaks down and cries (no Starbury) gets me every time. That’s what separates Pac & X from cats like 50.

They show their vulnerabilities and justified their anger.

Nowadays these nigga be acting like Superthug when that shit ain’t real.

^^^

I saw X cry in concert b4, by homeboys say it was fake, but i was like WOW
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
If u dont have goodie mobs 2nd album and all of outkasts albums u lost real bad
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
ONE TIME ME AND MY BOY WAS RIDING AND LISENING TO DEAR MOMMA AND I LOOKED OVER AND HE WAS TEARING UP
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The idea of this is fucking hilarious lol.

“Like…

“Nigga, I know you ain’t sittin over there cryin’” lol

But Pac was one of the rappers I related to alot. Dude was like a Big Brother, schooling niggas on the evils, telling cats to watch out for fake bitches and fake homies, buiilding up women’s self esteem as well as demanding guys respect them. Dropping real shit with such conviction, he had niggas motivated for real.

Pac coulda done alot of good if he hadn’t been killed.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Call me crazy but i want to hear more about 50 moms kissin a mom and 50’s mom hustlin and the early 50, more of his life and not the super hero or the rich 50, i think if he does this and really opens up, he can really cement his place
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
ONE TIME ME AND MY BOY WAS RIDING AND LISENING TO DEAR MOMMA AND I LOOKED OVER AND HE WAS TEARING UP
========================================
The idea of this is fucking hilarious lol.

“Like…

“Nigga, I know you ain’t sittin over there cryin’” lol

But Pac was one of the rappers I related to alot. Dude was like a Big Brother, schooling niggas on the evils, telling cats to watch out for fake bitches and fake homies, buiilding up women’s self esteem as well as demanding guys respect them. Dropping real shit with such conviction, he had niggas motivated for real.

Pac coulda done alot of good if he hadn’t been killed.
^^^

I agree with u, i was a biggie stan, but if u listened to pac long enough u wud be hatin on biggie, im a biggie stan and i know the end of hit em verbatim, where pac is spazzin out,i know all of that, but every young man should have makevilli, he speaks on so many topics on that albu….
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
And for the record one of my all time dreams was for there to be a hip hop woodstock, i mean a real one with every single hot artist of our time…i know it wont happen but i used to dream of that…..
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
If u dont have goodie mobs 2nd album and all of outkasts albums u lost real bad
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This.

Soul Food is a classic.

“Guess Who?” still chokes me up a lil bit.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
If u dont have goodie mobs 2nd album and all of outkasts albums u lost real bad
============================
This.

Soul Food is a classic.

“Guess Who?” still chokes me up a lil bit.

^^^

They were talking about the new world order b4 alot of people….
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Coolio Featuring L.V. - Gangsta’s Paradise

^^^

I used to luv this song, till one day i took my dads truck and this was in the cd player…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Pac was my boy, but he was crazy, i rmbr he got mad at dre for the Blackstreet featuring Dr. Dre “No Diggity” beat
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Call me crazy but i want to hear more about 50 moms kissin a mom and 50’s mom hustlin and the early 50, more of his life and not the super hero or the rich 50, i think if he does this and really opens up, he can really cement his place
===================================
That’s what made his verse on Game’s M.V.P. so compelling.

That was “Curtis” material right there.

every young man should have makevilli, he speaks on so many topics on that album
==========================
I never understood people who trash that album. One of my favorite Pac projects cause between the women, the money and the beef, Pac bared his soul.

White Mans World >>>

“Now do you love me momma, why they keep on calling me nigger?
Get my weight up with my hate and pay them back when i’m bigger”

“I’m still thuggin in this jail cell, missin my block
hearing brothers crying all night, wishing they’d stop”

Powerful shit, b.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
They were talking about the new world order b4 alot of people….
=====================================
Alot of cats were too busy laughing at their clothes and accents to get what they were sayin’.
landLORD Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Lemme find out you niggas be parked somewhere late at night crying with your homies, while listening to Tupac…you niggas need dates…ol big baby davis dick vermeil ass terrel owens ass niggas
Rozco Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
# Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm

And for the record one of my all time dreams was for there to be a hip hop woodstock, i mean a real one with every single hot artist of our time…i know it wont happen but i used to dream of that…..

^^^^this………will happen someday i hope. and yeah i agree about fiddy, i actually thought the massacre was on the same level as grodt with the exception of a few tracks, so yeah it wasn’t consistent but he was fucking with some crazy beats. somewhere along the line he just got so caught up in being the richest rapper around he forgot to show a little vulnerability. it’s the reason so many people fuck with wayne even tho he puts out a lot of wack tracks, at least hes trying and letting people see his faults…..now when you take this to an illogical conclusion and release an entire album nearly full of faults *ahem, curtis* thats a different story, but he needs to get more introspective and let down his shield a little bit, and judging from the terminator bisd cover i anticipate another album full of bullshit. lately its like hes still saying hes the best but you can tell even he doesnt believe it….he should harness that self doubt and really show his soul a little bit, and once again judging from that new cover it just seems like hes trying wayyyy too hard.

but btw, that video of him going to the hospital after hearing fat joe’s new album was fucking hillarious
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Lemme find out you niggas be parked somewhere late at night crying with your homies, while listening to Tupac…you niggas need dates…ol big baby davis dick vermeil ass terrel owens ass niggas

^^^

Thats my qb man, thats my team mate, it aint right man, it aint right
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
lately its like hes still saying hes the best but you can tell even he doesnt believe it….he should harness that self doubt and really show his soul a little bit, and once again judging from that new cover it just seems like hes trying wayyyy too hard.
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This right here.

Em needs to really sit down with Fif. With the right song concepts, 50 can bounce back from the public perception that “Curtis” flopped.
Zee!! Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Damn, sensible pac, em and DMX discussions?!?! Nah really does a 180 on the weekends…..
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Always been one of pacs best verse

Penetentiaries is packed with promise makes
Never realize the precious time the bitch niggaz is wastin
Instutionalized I lived my life a product made to crumble
But too hardened for a smile, we’re too crazy to be humble, we ballin
Catch me father please, cause I’m fallin, in the liquor store
That’s the Hennessee I hear ya callin, can I get some more?
Hail til I reach Hell, I ain’t scared
Mama checkin in my bedroom; I ain’t there
I got a head with no screws in it, what can I do
One life to live but I got nuttin to lose, just me and you
on a one way trip to prison, sellin drugs
We all wrapped up in this livin, life as Thugs
To my homeboys in Quentin Max, doin they bid
Raise hell to this real shit, and feel this
When they turn out the lights, I’ll be down in the dark
Thuggin eternal through my heart, now Hail Mary nigga
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Rappers take note…without reminding us of the struggle, bragging about your success comes off pretentious as opposed to victorious.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
^^^

That verse pac was on another level and what makes me sad is this is where pac was headed b4 he was shot, he was just getting better wtih time
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
They say pussy and paper is poetry power and pistols
Plottin on murderin motherfuckers ‘fore they get you
Picturin pitiful punk niggaz coppin pleas
Puffin weed as I position myself to clock G’s
My enemies scatter in suicidal situations
Never to witness the wicked shit that they was facin
Pockets is packed with presidents, pursue your riches
Evadin the playa hatin tricks, while hittin switches
Bitches is bad-mouth, cause brawlin motherfuckers is bold
But y’all some hoes, the game should be sewed
I’m sick of psychotic society somebody save me
Addicted to drama so even mama couldn’t raise me
Even the preacher and all my teachers couldn’t reach me
I run in the streets and puffin weed wit my peeps
I’m duckin the cop, I hit the weed as I’m clutchin my glock
Niggaz is hot when I hit the block, what if I die tonight

Pac had them P’s poppin lol
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
And Amp u might agree or disagree, but every now and than,hov will remind u that the whole industry shut him out or school said he wasnt sh!t or no one blieved, but with 50 its like him gettin shot is what he leans on overcoming, i want to hear about the 50 grinding when he was blackballed by the whole industry or even the 50 that many said actually had his own strip in queens, i mean h has to have tales from them days, i just feel to this day we still dont know the real 50
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
this is where pac was headed b4 he was shot, he was just getting better wtih time
=================================
Dude got better every album.

Alot of rappers can’t say that.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Blu - In Rememberence of Me ….brought a tear to my eye but niggas are buggin havin emo breakdowns…lol…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I always wanted to see nas face after he heard me and my girlfriend and knowin he made i gave u power….pas just turned the song outl..
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
i just feel to this day we still dont know the real 50
==================================
Which is why he’s in the predicament he’s in.

As guarded as Jay is, he’s revealed way more about his past & his struggle through his music than 50.

Curtis is a character, bordering on caricature.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
brought a tear to my eye but niggas are buggin havin emo breakdowns…lol…
===============================================
I think I’ve cried more listening to good music then in real life.

I don’t know, music can bring out some strong emotions.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
i just feel to this day we still dont know the real 50
==================================
Which is why he’s in the predicament he’s in.

As guarded as Jay is, he’s revealed way more about his past & his struggle through his music than 50
^^^^^

You said that you was comin through
I would stay in the hallway (waitin)
always playin the bench (waitin)
and that day came and went
Fuck You! very much you showed me the worst kind of pain
but I’m stronger and trust me I will never hurt again
will never ask mommy “why daddy don’t love me?
Why is we so poor?, why is life so ugly?
Mommy why is your eyes puffy?”
please don’t cry everything’ll be alright
I know it’s dark now, but we gon’ see the light
It’s us against the world
we don’t need him, right? (right)
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Soul Food is a classic.

^^
So is Still Standing.
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Lmao @ Land. daps

Hiphop is crazy artistic… Co-sign all the comments abt Pac’s depth[neva], DMX ’s dark tales.. that line Iceberg quoted is one of the most harsh images painted in hiphop.. MC’s were vivid with the poetry.. I dnt reacall the last new rapper that came out sounding original..

*good times*
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a I’m A Jerk Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
brought a tear to my eye but niggas are buggin havin emo breakdowns…lol…
===============================================
I think I’ve cried more listening to good music then in real life.

I don’t know, music can bring out some strong emotions.
^^^^

Esp. when drinking

Listen - that was my hurt in my heart talkin, along with the truth
I would thirst often as a youth cause of you the person
Moms nursin self-esteem issues
Round the house it’s hard to find a clean tissue, minus her tears
To rewind this time I promise I minused my years
to the day to take the pain away
Seemed sunny outside, always rained on Jay
Pop you my umbrella, come help your son with the weather
Soon we come together like man and man and build
Play space, cards face up, I’ve come to deal
In order to get right we gotta deal with this wrong
And the pain I felt all my life you feel in the song
Your lack of warmth left a chill in the morn’
Your lack of love, left me loveless, and I’m of your breath
I’m your mind body and soul, your heart, your flesh
Your alcohol, your smoke, in results I’m a mess
And dad, still I love you no less dad
Hope you didn’t think success would make me less mad
But not mad, just dissapointed - we wasted years
I swear to God, may you take me away from here
If you taught me anything
The one thing you taught me is to face my fears, coward
How could you let me grow without you?
Grind in this rap game, take dough without you?
Wear my Pro Keds close to the sole/soul without you?
Family pictures pose without you - WHY?! ..
Why shouldn’t I be mad?
Monster’s parents seperated, Monster had his dad
These parents had they problems, he still came to the pad
He bought ‘em new bikes, imagine what that felt like
Used to have to butt my head to go to sleep at night
Nigga you did me wrong but the love is strong, let’s move on
No_neva-eva Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Soul Food is a classic.

“Guess Who?” still chokes me up a lil bit

^^^^^

Funny- I was just telling somebody today that Goodie Mo & Pac are most likely to choke me up:

Khujo’s verse on ‘Guess Who’..damn

‘..when I came home blowed & couldn’t find the keyhole…’
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
In order to get right we gotta deal with this wrong
And the pain I felt all my life you feel in the song
Your lack of warmth left a chill in the morn’
Your lack of love, left me loveless, and I’m of your breath
I’m your mind body and soul, your heart, your flesh
Your alcohol, your smoke, in results I’m a mess
And dad, still I love you no less dad
Hope you didn’t think success would make me less mad
But not mad, just dissapointed - we wasted years
I swear to God, may you take me away from here
If you taught me anything
The one thing you taught me is to face my fears, coward
How could you let me grow without you?
Grind in this rap game, take dough without you?
Wear my Pro Keds close to the sole/soul without you?
Family pictures pose without you - WHY?! ..
Why shouldn’t I be mad?
^^^^

How can people say jay nvr got deep
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I think I’ve cried more listening to good music then in real life.

I don’t know, music can bring out some strong emotions.
^^^^^^^^^^
movies get me more emotional (n) than music
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Used to have to butt my head to go to sleep at night
Nigga you did me wrong but the love is strong, let’s move on
^^^

U know how deep that line is, damn this nigga use to go crzy to go 2 sleep
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
In order to get right we gotta deal with this wrong
And the pain I felt all my life you feel in the song
Your lack of warmth left a chill in the morn’
Your lack of love, left me loveless, and I’m of your breath
I’m your mind body and soul, your heart, your flesh
Your alcohol, your smoke, in results I’m a mess
And dad, still I love you no less dad
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
EDIT

Sad movies
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
And Beans verse was nasty also…u see drake this is what i was raised on

Simple - harsh life, harsh verses
“I can’t believe the mouth of this prick
He said put his mouth on his dick,”
I know we gotta talk bout that, I know you salt bout that
You on the tip like I don’t like you
I got four kids, three baby mothers, I’m just like you
Sometimes I wanted to just fight you, shit
Swing on you - think I’m playin man, I’m just like you
I was a kid with a puzzle
with missing pieces tryin to put it together dawg, you put it together
You made me have to foot through the weather
in the storm with no raincoat
I don’t only speak on me, I speak upon the kids in the same boat
Ridin the same water, same situation
Same fatherless daughter - I hate you, that’s in your mind
Don’t get caught up in the rhyme
You think I dissed you now, that I don’t miss you now
Don’t be a hater now, be glad I made it now
I know I probably rubbed you the wrong way
But fuck what the song say, for the record, check it
No_neva-eva Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Now on release.
How will i live?
Will god forgive me for all the dirt a nigga did?
To feed kids.
One life to live.
It’s so hard to be positive
When niggas shootin at your crib.
Mama, i’m still thuggin’
The world is a war zone.
My homies is inmates
And most of them dead wrong
Full grown, finally a man
Just schemin on ways to put some green inside the palms
Of my empty hands.
Just picture me rollin’.
Flossin a benz on rims that isn’t stolen.
My dreams is censored.
My hopes are gone.
I’m like a fiend that finally see when all the dope is gone.
My nerves is wrecked.
Heart beatin’ and my hands is swollen.
Thinkin of the g’s i’ll be holdin.
Picture me rollin.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
But dog I can’t see it at all, shit
We never kicked it at all
We never pitched or kicked at a ball
dog, you never taught me shit
how to fight, ride a bike, fix a flat
none of that sorts of shit
Nigga you was an abusive pops
fuck you left me out to dry, stuck
gotta teach news to box
gotta teach news to bop
and that aint the half of it man
I gotta teach news to block
It’s about time we have a father to son (nigga sit down)
sit down let me tell you ’bout your fatherless sons
how they grew to be men and father they sons
father they daughters
nigga, you left a fatherless daughter
I never follow your orders
nigga you make me sick
pussy you could….ooh
how you gonna leave these memories in the back of my mind
I can see it clear as day you smackin my mom
I ‘member that day you showed me that gat, that 9
put it in my palm when I was young
and said that would be mine, you turned me out
the reason why I hit the block
reason why I tried to hit them cops
reason why I started hittin shots
reason why I started gettin licked
and drinkin syrup and skippin court
ginger bread man never think of gettin caught
look at your hand man damn you fought
nigga you left my mom
left us with no good-bye’s
you left us out to dry
you left us with no letters, notes, (nothing!) no replies
no digits numbers was unlisted
you left us with some of my loneliest night
nigga some of my hungriest nights
shit, one of the reasons for years (shit embarrasin)
damn we used to think money was white
yeah you gave us life like, fruit from a plant
we aint eat right from them foods from them stamps
and to think you was my pop,
man i gotta stop shit
landLORD Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
yall niggas must be drunk… drunk niggas STAY crying
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
No more verses from me, but i know some lurker has no idea what i posted, hopefully they will go back and listen…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
landLORD Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
yall niggas must be drunk… drunk niggas STAY crying

^^^^

Tru story, thats why i like liquor, u get in touch with the real sh!t, dont let me put on lenny williams when im buzzin, i wake up wifey and the kids
Lurker Mcgavin Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
that Lil Wayne on twitter post has to be one of the worst on here in years…
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
juelz verse on this > eminems
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
I expect Relapse 2 to be dope….but with Just Blaze with 4-5 songs on it should be Em best album since MMLP
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
me put on lenny williams when im buzzin, i wake up wifey and the kids

Lurker Mcgavin Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
that Lil Wayne on twitter post has to be one of the worst on here in years…

^^

ride shotgun with Big Homie behind the wheel
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 pm
‘..when I came home blowed & couldn’t find the keyhole…’

Ya feel me?

That’s real shit right there.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I almost 4got about “soon you’ll understand” that was classic also…i was messin with one of my best friends lil sisters, she was a year younger, but that song describes it best
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Come home with me, to the streets, the slums, the ghetto
That’s home to me, everynight my girl crying come home to me
No, come home with me where there so many cops
The block is boiling and the food is spoiled
But that pot with the rock is boiling
Same pot mommy cook with, left the oil in
Come on home with me, where these bitches is frauds
Niggas don’t listen to broads, they having you sitting in court
for kids that ain’t yours, come home with me
Where everyday the glocks go pop
Where the front doors broke and them locks don’t lock
Come home with me, dog where the beef is seeking
Kids don’t trick or treat, they get tricked for treating
Come home with me, where the pistol squeezing
Niggas twist they cheekin, ripped to pieces
Our kids get even, come home with me
Don’t leave your condoms behind
cause them bitches leave there martians behind
Pray to god that I’m fine, come on home with me
Come on zone with me, come on walk through this cold city
Where these kids need food
niggas need guidance and bitches need roofs
Come on home with me, where niggas living off they last bucks
Phone is off, rent is backed up
Come on home with me, niggas strap up
Hit the street gats up, clack up and get they money back up
Come on home with me, every block got a crack in it
Every hallway got a nigga with some crack in it
Don’t get trapped in it
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
shout out to which ever nahgger that put me on Elzhi Preface album…i been bump this for almost 2 months now
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Not tryna argue nas vs. jay z for the zillionth time, but it verses like the ones posted ^^ is why I never felt nas calling jay z shallow. Soon You’ll understand Me(dynasty) and many others made me wonder what ni99as was thinkn’ say nas was realer than jay… I digress tho’
Daily Drug Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
P!
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
See I was — born in sewage, born to make bomb music
Flow tight like I was born Jewish
Used the streets as a conduit - I kept arms
38 longs inside my mom’s Buick
At any given moment Shawn could lose it, be on the news
Iron cuffs - arms through it; or stuffed with embalming fluid
Shit, I’m goin through it - mom dukes too
Tears streamin down her pretty face, she got her palms to it
My life is gettin too wild
I need to bring some sorta calm to it
Bout to lose it; voices screamin “Don’t do it!”
It’s like ‘93, ‘94, bout the year
that Big and Mach dropped; and “Illmatic” rocked
outta every rag drop, and the West had it locked
Everybody doin ‘em, I’m still scratchin on the block
like “Damn; I’ma be a failure”
Surrounded by thugs, drugs, and drug - paraphenalia
Cops courts, and their thoughts is to derail us
Three time felons in shorts with jealous thoughts
Tryin figure where your mil is, guesstimate the weight you sellin
So they can send shots straight to your melon; wait!
It gets worse, baby momma water burst
Baby came out stillborn, still I gotta move on
Though my heart still torn, life gone from her womb
Don’t worry, if it was meant to be, it’ll be — soon

*these verses are just crazy*
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Gravity Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Not tryna argue nas vs. jay z for the zillionth time, but it verses like the ones posted ^^ is why I never felt nas calling jay z shallow. Soon You’ll understand Me(dynasty) and many others made me wonder what ni99as was thinkn’ say nas was realer than jay… I digress tho’
^^^^^

Dear ma, I’m in the cell, lonely as hell
Writin this scribe, thinkin bout how you must feel inside
You tried to teach me better, but I refused to grow
God damn I ain’t the young man that you used to know
You said the street claim lives, but I wanted things like
bling bling ice I was wrong in hindsight
Shit we grew apart, try to blame it on your new spouse
I know it hurt like hell the day you kicked me out
But your house is your house, I ain’t respect the rules
I brought crack past your door, beefed with rival crews
And who wants to be the mother of a son who sold drugs
Co-workers saw me on the corner slingin Larry Love
Meanwhile, you workin hard like, two or three jobs
Tryin to feed me and my siblings, makin an honest livin
Who am I kiddin I, call myself easin the load
I made the load heavy, I need money for commissary
Try to understand, please
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
See I was — born in sewage, born to make bomb music
Flow tight like I was born Jewish
Used the streets as a conduit - I kept arms
38 longs inside my mom’s Buick
At any given moment Shawn could lose it, be on the news
Iron cuffs - arms through it; or stuffed with embalming fluid
Shit, I’m goin through it - mom dukes too
Tears streamin down her pretty face, she got her palms to it
My life is gettin too wild
I need to bring some sorta calm to it
Bout to lose it; voices screamin “Don’t do it!”
It’s like ‘93, ‘94, bout the year
that Big and Mach dropped; and “Illmatic” rocked
outta every rag drop, and the West had it locked
Everybody doin ‘em, I’m still scratchin on the block
like “Damn; I’ma be a failure”
Surrounded by thugs, drugs, and drug - paraphenalia
Cops courts, and their thoughts is to derail us
Three time felons in shorts with jealous thoughts
Tryin figure where your mil is, guesstimate the weight you sellin
So they can send shots straight to your melon; wait!
It gets worse, baby momma water burst
Baby came out stillborn, still I gotta move on
Though my heart still torn, life gone from her womb
Don’t worry, if it was meant to be, it’ll be
^^^^

Real talk, i had a very dark period in my life and this verse used to be on repeat for weeks……im bout to lose it, voice’s screamin dont do it
Daily Drug Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
9th Wonder switching up the style…not bad
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
how could ni99as eva say Hov is shallow???
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Home from Elmira, got a little brighter
I’ma keep it real still a schemer and conniver
Recognize the struggle livin like a thug do
Hatred in my heart but inside I love you
See no matter what I will extend my arms to hug you
Knowing I am just like you, I am like the double
All I wanna know is how you pound me down
Yo this shit is real and you really jerked me around
But any way I am getting paid wit puff now
Bout to cop you a house I can send you some stuff now
So many levels jail take you
I appreciate jail because it made me appreciate you
I’ve been through fire and brimstone
Used to be diplomas in jail, now I cop the gem stone
I remembered when you rushed me
The time you said you should of flushed me
I forgive you ma trust me
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
At any given moment Shawn could lose it, be on the news
Iron cuffs - arms through it; or stuffed with embalming fluid
Shit, I’m goin through it - mom dukes too
Tears streamin down her pretty face, she got her palms to it
My life is gettin too wild
I need to bring some sorta calm to it
Bout to lose it; voices screamin “Don’t do it!”
It’s like ‘93, ‘94, bout the year
that Big and Mach dropped; and “Illmatic” rocked
outta every rag drop, and the West had it locked
Everybody doin ‘em, I’m still scratchin on the block
like “Damn; I’ma be a failure”
Surrounded by thugs, drugs, and drug - paraphenalia
^^^^

Im sorry but that was so vivid that u know thats what really what was going on in his life, he was just recallin facts….smmfh
Duro Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
yea soon you’ll understand is one of Jigga’s dopest track
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Ice, ‘mber that lucky me verse about his moms?
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Gravity Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Not tryna argue nas vs. jay z for the zillionth time, but it verses like the ones posted ^^ is why I never felt nas calling jay z shallow. Soon You’ll understand Me(dynasty) and many others made me wonder what ni99as was thinkn’ say nas was realer than jay… I digress tho’
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is obvious bait into a jay vs nas arguement but i cant ignore it….jay is shallow always was and always will be….jay got a hand full of songs that he talks about real shit….nas got catalogs worth…FOH

black girl lost > the realest shit jay has ever rap about
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
on this cant be life, i rmbr i used to always just rewind hov verse and than one day i heard scarfaceverse and rhymed about his home boy kid just got killed, i was blown away….we will nvr have hip hop like that again
Daily Drug Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Nas > Jay Z

not up for debate
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Black girl lost is good, but what we are talking about is songs thats about nas real everyday life, not stuff he has observed or figments of his imagination…not tryin to start a debate, but he was just pointion out the many points where jay was not shallow and trust thre is more than a hand few, we can keep postin them
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Gravity Says:

October 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Ice, ‘mber that lucky me verse about his moms?
^^^6

Yea and thats the song he talked about shooting his brother cause his brother was coked out of his mind
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
# Daily Drug Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Nas > Jay Z

not up for debate
^^^^^^^^^^
THIS

Jay being > than Nas …We Off That
jimmy valentime Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
This is the only time I am going to do this …

I may repost this on monday

A rapper explain his art is a little like magician explaining his tricks

The abstractness in my rapping is done to an extent on purpose

I am a little like doom , talib or common (who is one of my idols) ….

I don’t pick as abstract beats as doom does / makes … Cause I don’t think I need too… I do not like that everybody color within the lines in this era …nobody does anything diff in rap…everybody looks , talks , acts the same…

While I purposely rap “weird”

Rap is not a joke for me… I have an appreciation for the culture and a respect for its history

Time was an extent me trying to create some thing I feel was myself but could be enjoyed by others

I am working on a project that is striving towards a middle …weird enough to not feel like a slave to melody…but still some what accessible

Other artist and djs have given me my props and I feel that

Other artist understand me better then the “fan” can…where I am taking my art and what I am doing…

I think joe the poteinal to do great things and be a great artist

I didn’t make fight music out of anger …but because I respect joe as a rapper and want to give him something more traditional…to show I appreciate his opinions…even when he doesn’t enjoy a record
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Yo Nov, chill with the bullshit, lol…

we talkin’ about real shit.. not some fiction nas made up from library books… I can’t wait for a real hphop debate where ni99as put nas vs. jay verse for verse… Nasir is a great journalist with good documenting skills… jay z is a great orator of his real life experiences…
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
DMX: Slippin >>
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Im not goin to get in2 this argument, but the numbers and the fans and the respect GLOBALLY all says whos the best, so ill leave it @ that…back 2 the convo
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
youtube.com/watch?v=1dRrNlnKB7w
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Black girl lost is good, but what we are talking about is songs thats about nas real everyday life, not stuff he has observed or figments of his imagination…not tryin to start a debate, but he was just pointion out the many points where jay was not shallow and trust thre is more than a hand few, we can keep postin them

^^^

Thats why they can nvr respond to this, bcause im a nas fan and i know his music, but jay recalls his life, others just smoke and recite others life (there is nothing wrong with this) but u have to understand the magic of a hustler recalling his battles and recalling it for u in music form
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
^^
Back when Game was nice with it.
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
The theme song to +The Sopranos+
plays in the key of life on my, mental piano
Got a strange way of seein life like
I’m Stevie Wonder with, beads under the doo-rag
Intuition is there even when my vision’s impaired, yeah
Knowin I can go, just switchin a spare
On the highway of life, nigga it’s sharp in my sight
Oh! Keen senses ever since I was a, teen on the benches
everytime somebody like Enus was mentioned
I would turn green, me, bein in the trenches
Him, livin adventureous not worryin about expenditures
I’m bravin temperatures below zero, no hero
No father figure, you gotta pardon a nigga
But I’m starvin my niggaz, and the weight loss in my figure
is startin to darken my heart, bout to get to my liver
Watch it my niggaz, I’m tryin to be calm but I’m gon’ get richer
through any means, with that thing that Malcolm palmed in the picture
Never read the Qu’ran or Islamic scriptures
Only psalms I read was on the arms of my niggaz
Tattooed so I carry on like I’m non-religious
Clap whoever stand between Shawn and figures
Niggaz, say it’s the dawn/Don but I’m superstitious
Shit is as dark as it’s been, nothin is goin as you predicted
I move with biscuits, stop the hearts of niggaz actin too suspicious
This is, food for thought, you do the dishes
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Since my date of birth
bought you nothing but hurt
play those video games
stole change from ya purse
Sat on the cold court bench
’til I was arraigned in ya skirt
Saw the pain in ya face
through you maintained a smirk
All you did was motivate me
don’t let ‘em hold you back
What I do I turned around
and I sold you crack
I was a bastard for that
still I’m drowning in shame
Just remember one thing now
you’re not to blame
You was newly seperated
tryin’ to escape ya world
and through my thirst
I didn’t help you
I just made things worse
I hated me and everybody
that created crack
Had me thinkin’
the newest kicks and the latest gat
Still haven’t apologized
so please play this back
while I try to come to terms
with such a heinous act
you know in more than one way
cocaine numbs the brain
All I did was think about
how the funds once came
then I ran across this memory
and it stung the brain
How can you ever destroy the beauty
from which one came
That’s a savage you’re the reason
why me and these beats make a marriage
why I rhyme above average and
I ain’t shit
Glad you got yourself together
no thanks to me
Strong and beautiful the way thangs should be
You must love me

^^^^

FOH WITH THE BLACK GIRL LOST BULLSHIT… NMAE ONE VERSE FROM NASIR ABOUT HIS PERSONAL LIFE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO TOUCHING THE ABOVE LYRICS.. I’LL WAIT
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
and than the other verse in lucky me, he talks about shootin his brother cause of jewels and his brother high off of all kind of drugs…thats what seperated hov, he was talking about real sh!t….smh when the guy from 60 mins asked him about that and hov wud not answer it
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Gravity, i always wonder what beyonce think, when she listen to his old music
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Look how we treat pregnancy women in the ‘hood
Our values so low our values are no good
Things our mothers told us we shoulda heeded
Cause now we need it
We older almost able t…
I’m jealous of you how come you so beautiful?
Smelling fresh youthful intelligent while I’m stressin’ and shit
Aiyo I envy you ’cause all you do is smile and things come your way
Such a innocent child is what some say
I get upset ’cause I just want to be treated the way you are
Like a star not a worry in this world thus far
But wait a minute we both need ya mother’s attention
I must be crazy jealous of my own baby infant
PHENOMENON Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Awww man,Vanessa Williams is on HLN right now.

SUPER-DUPER M.I.L.F. STATUS!!
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
^^^
dude thats just reciting hood sh!t that everyone knows…..see brenda has a baby….what we are saying is what is real IN NAS LIFE…not the same everyday sh!t we all see…he does the same thing preachers do, talk about the same 5 topics every week that everyone will get hyped about, its cool, we understand
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Thats why they can nvr respond to this, bcause im a nas fan and i know his music, but jay recalls his life, others just smoke and recite others life (there is nothing wrong with this) but u have to understand the magic of a hustler recalling his battles and recalling it for u in music form
^^^^^^^^^^^^
*blank stare*….who said this? 456 (nahgger)….didnt we a couple weeks ago run down the numerous Jay Z lies…

youtube.com/watch?v=u-BQ14aJxLQ >>> all your fav “real” Jay songs
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
alright home boy just got, here bout to head out to the club…but ill be lurking…
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
smh @ fatboys
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Look how we treat pregnancy women in the ‘hood
Our values so low our values are no good
Things our mothers told us we shoulda heeded
Cause now we need it
We older almost able t…
I’m jealous of you how come you so beautiful?
Smelling fresh youthful intelligent while I’m stressin’ and shit
Aiyo I envy you ’cause all you do is smile and things come your way
Such a innocent child is what some say
I get upset ’cause I just want to be treated the way you are
Like a star not a worry in this world thus far
But wait a minute we both need ya mother’s attention
I must be crazy jealous of my own baby infant

^^^

same ni99a that ain’t show for his son’s birth.. Imaginary shit nonetheless

_______________________________________________________

*at Ice, thats why she supposedly made Hov an album of all his dark past and hood and put a picture of her face in the middle as the tranquilizer* smh @ myself for knowing this much detail..
Joe 88 Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Nas >

Jay-Z >

2Pac >
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
*at Ice, thats why she supposedly made Hov an album of all his dark past and hood and put a picture of her face in the middle as the tranquilizer* smh @ myself for knowing this much detail..

^^^

Damn, where the fck did u hear that, thats some creapy sh!t
Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
We used to fight every night
but I never would suffer
just smile my big brother’s
tryna make me tougher
As we grew fussing and fighting continued
as I plundered through ya stuff
and snuck ya clothes to school
Got intense real intense
as we got older
Never believed it would lead
to be popped in one of ya shoulda
With my rings knew you had it
’cause you took too long
as Mickey, Andy, and the girl that bought it looked on
Huffin’ and puffin’ gun in my hand
told you step outside
Hoping you said no but you hurt my pride
made our way down the steps
maybe you thought it was just a threat
or maybe ya life was just that crazy
and you was beggin’ for death
try to justify this in my young mind
but ya drillin’ it
and my ego hurt combined
drove me berzerk
Saw the devil in your eyes
high off more than weed
confused I just closed
my young eyes and squeezed
What a sound
opened my eyes just in time
to see ya stumbling to the ground
Damn what the fuck I done now
runnin’ around in a circle
thinking I’m assed out
hot gun burnin’ my waist
ran straight to Jazz’ house
Like a stranger damn I just shot my nigga
and ran off into the night as if it was not my nigga
Left the scene how could I go out that way
Still you asked to see me in the hospital ya next day
You must love me.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
# 456 Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

^Yeah because we all know Jay Z has never fabricated any of those rhymes.smh.

^name one line from jay that a lie

456 had no idea the pandora box he has open

# barak’s ex preacher was right white people Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

name one line from jay that a lie

^^^^^^^^^^

did jay-z really run up in a hotel where someone else was holed up running a drug operation and tell them to leave and never ever ever come back?

http://nahright.com/news/2009/09/27/video-nas-speaks-on-absence-from-ob4cl2-bp3/#comments
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Damn, where the fck did u hear that, thats some creapy sh!t
^^^

Some interview she did, I think shits even on youtube.. creepy shit.. His response was to make a special song that will never be released to the public play at her arrival to a hotel in france, after he sent the G5 to pick her up.. ok thats it, no more of the ‘us weekly’ storie. lol, this is shit he said himself though.
jimmy valentime Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm
;; gives joe a pound;;

I hope you see what I posted…
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Jimmy Valentime > JayZ
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
See my life is like a see-saw
And until I move this weight it’s gon’ keep me to the floor
Travel with me through my deep thoughts
Y’all can’t learn Jigga by the shit y’all be readin in The Source;
It’s deeper of course
Follow the life of this reckless minor
At sixteen in the 600, unlicensed driver
Playin, cops and robbers, like shots can’t stop us
Flippin a bird to the choppers (fuck you coppers)
Buck-thirty on the turns
Reckless abandon, when I’m standin on this pedal
Hand on my metal, minus all this time they tryin to give me
Lord help me, all I ever wanted to be was wealthy or
somebody to tell me that they felt me
I tried to play the hand you dealt me
but you gave me five funnies an’ shit
I was hungry I need menage money
Nothin less than a 520; and with that said
back to Shawn Carter the hustler, Jay-Z is *BLAM*

*fuck it, i’m mad ni99as will even compare nas to hov when it comes to who is the realest* Nas ain’t never write no shit like this. FOH
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Oh Stanley, will you ever lower the flag (c)Amp Geez
Harlem World Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
smh @ how nahggers found a way to turn this to nas vs jay AGAIN.
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
*Never will I*, just as you would not flag down for your idol.. lol, ok now time to step out.. I’ll leave you with this last stan verse tho’.. lol

Yo; I come through, gettin money, sittin on twenties
Niggaz throwin me shade, but ain’t shit sunny
Hot shells only thing niggaz could get from me
Cocktails thrown in your living room, KA-BOOM
I’m so confrontational;
they shoulda never let me go on probation yo
I’m a hustler; accept that..
no correctional facilities can correct that
I took a step back, I viewed myself, seen where my head was at
It’s where that dough is homey, gotta get that
Gotta get away, some try but head back
Uhh, street smart niggaz got left back
Some died, they left stacks
Me, I ball right, and on top of that I’m dog nice
Jigga been cold as fuck before ice
Not before Christ, but a long fuckin time
Get your mind right niggaz
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Since my date of birth
bought you nothing but hurt
play those video games
stole change from ya purse
Sat on the cold court bench
’til I was arraigned in ya skirt
Saw the pain in ya face
through you maintained a smirk
All you did was motivate me
don’t let ‘em hold you back
What I do I turned around
and I sold you crack

He never sold his mother crack.
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
He never sold his mother crack.

^^^

Yes he did, all this shit is documented in interviews back in the day, *source mag*.. there was a time when his mom was on drugs and he sold her the shit.. SMh @ y’all reaching to discredit him for the sake of not beingcalled a stan. I understand how the shit is soo vivid ni99as is in doubt.. Its okay lets just agree to disagree
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I saw an interview where Jay said he took some artistic licensee with that verse and was speaking in a general way about all the black mother’s he sold crack to. But he coulda been cleaning that up for his mother’s sake. At any rate, I tend to believe Hov’s songs where he really goes in. That’s been hisa appeal from day one, a real life hustler being able to fully articulate that lifestyle on wax.

.jay got a hand full of songs that he talks about real shit….nas got catalogs worth…FOH
======================================
I’m not even gonna front. Jay’s got some powerful shit. But songs like “You Must Love Me” & “Soon You’ll Understand” are few & far between. His catalog is based on the shit he’s generally known for. Braggadocios party fare. His overall body of work is full of flashy but ultimately empty bars.
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I’m not even gonna front. Jay’s got some powerful shit. But songs like “You Must Love Me” & “Soon You’ll Understand” are few & far between. His catalog is based on the shit he’s generally known for. Braggadocios party fare. His overall body of work is full of flashy but ultimately empty bars.

^^

When I get the time i’ll make a compilation of all Hov’s dark songs that you wanna say are few and far in btn… At least half his catalogue.. i’m not gonna make you a list now, sad part is both Iceberg and myself have asked ni99as to put up verses that come close to matching any of the verses up here.. I still don’t see none.. Convo got boring real quick.. lmao
Black Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
The only problem i have with hov now is his content. It feels like the majority of the time what he raps about now is everything he has accomplished. It’s like the song “Reminder” except all the time. Still one of the nicest though and as far as deep songs he definitely goes there way more than he gets credit for. Shit, his verses on IZZO were more introspective than the majority of rappers
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 pm
But you’re asking to find verses that don’t exist. Nas paints pictures and taps into the black experience. Nas does shit like this…

Anytime brothers can’t get jobs, then they rob
A man rather die than live on his knees and starve
Cops steady askin’ your man what happened
First he tell then he stop, like he not really rattin’
Guess he not really in that casket from a sawed-off
Listen, peep game from the brain of an all-star
The rain hurt niggaz bones who been shot
Metal pins in their leg, they walk with a limp-hop
The streets lie so you better be cautious
Your man’ll fry you plus, everybody talkin’
A vet, a General, don’t step where I walked in
Make your own path, be a legend in your skin
Make your own cash, don’t stress what I’m flossin’
Don’t expect more when you put in less work than all them
Queensbridge projects has taught him, and that’s for life
You heard me right, I got the block (When the block is hot)
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Word to Will, buried in his Fila suit and heavy chain
I wanna be iced-up nigga, bury me the same
I live for street glory and I die for ghetto fame
Respect all, fear none, my pride is everything
Initials in swimming pool floors, women lose draws
A true boss, never lose wars, got cheddar to floss
Guns under beds, mask and a flashlight
Living my life like everyday’s my last night
Alcoholic on toilets, I shit blood
Foreign cars, models and stars, life of a rich thug
Mama told me from weed, I would switch drugs
To cocaine and hit clubs and deep-dish dubs
How would she know unless she hit the clubs & got her mack-on
Back in the 60’s with an afro and her platforms
Bopping to the supremes, smoking joints
That’s cool, but I’ma live how I want

Gateways, marble floors, chandeliers
Jacuzzi’s, Gucci soap, throwing cash in the air
Though I, still feel broke with millions in the bank
And deals on the table, I focus to stay afloat
And just to think some would die to get with I got
They think its alot, the blink of an eye, you could get shot
Niggas is wolves, coming if you ruthless or not
But i be on point, put you in places where bodies rot
Never knew murder till I seen my man get popped
No blood soaking, laying there, eyes still open
I got a little closer, put my hand in his palm
He was looking right through me, Yo staring beyond
I wonder what he saw, the limos, movies and tours
Did he die in vain and represent for the cause
Now I put his name on everything I’m involved
And that’s the game, ya’ll can’t relate, fuck ya’ll (Ill Will)

Yo, hoes in my focus slow me, roll with the brokest homies
Cold and we hopeless lonelies, scolding my foes who phony
From blocks where coke can feed you and cops are over evil
They know some people who tell on felons who sold some diesel
Heroin and blow it ruins minds, knew a crew one time
‘89, they took work to Caroline and blew big time
In just two years, their crew disappeared
Snitches and bitches, smeared the paint on their pictures
Years back, I reminiscence and remember, sitting on wood benches
Gave me splinters, just a baby, nigga, thankful
When them killers came through, guns out, moving
I thank the ones who said shorty go home, we about to be shooting
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Nas verse is from HHID - 2006

This hov verse is from vol.3(98) they pretty much saying the same shit.. IMO hov goes harder.

Life’s a battle, mean streets eat you alive
Blocks’ll have you, tryin to maintain your course
through the potholes and gravel
Hot holes and what-have-you, tryin to clock dough
Foes tryin to pop shots through you by code
Pigs tryin to grab you and lock up your soul
Through the Hot Apple, nighttime shots crackle
(bucka bucka bucka) Fiends tryin to gaffle you
Not only cokeheads but the Feds in the Mercuray Topaz
after you, up the avenue
Tryin to give you big numbers, you got math to do
Tryin to make you miss summer, shit, that ain’t cool
I caught smaller cases tryin to get capital
Up against the wall, tryin to pass through
Ghost-like, hear the cries from the tortured souls
Most nights, I hold my toast tight, and it goes like
BK...Then Them Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Nah. Dude couldn’t even muster a decent album until his third try. I’ve been impressed by some of the bootleg versions of his unreleased tracks, and Makaveli is a classic. But All Eyez on me is the definition of hit and miss, and IMO, Me Against the World might be THE most overrrated album in hiphop history.

Ambitionz As A Ridah
Got My Mind Made Up
How Do You Want It
No More Pain
Life Goes On
Heartz Of Men
2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
All Eyez On Me
Check Out Time
Picture Me Rollin
Can’t C Me
Wonder Why They Call You Bitch
Shorty Want To Be A Thug
Thug Passion

Seems like a hell of a lot more hits then misses
.lol
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Y’all don’t know about my Biggie wars
Who you thought Kick In The Door was for?
But that’s my heart, y’all still trippin of this Jigga shit
Real niggas listen up and I’ma tell you how the whole thing start
Off top I brung Queens up from hard times
Rockin at the Fever, streets was all mine
It was my version of the blues, droppin our schools
The crack epidemic had rap representin new rules
So I, got in em shoes, tried em wore them
Wasn’t a perfect fit, so I couldn’t sport em
Young murderers ride, I knew all them
Jungle got shot, Will died, we was warring
I wrote it in my album
I was 18 when Lake seen the Island
And Lord held me down and
My surroundings started changing
I had a baby, I was making my rounds with AZ
Niggas started noticing my flow and was open when
The Golden Child closed em in with more style than them older men
Puff tried to start a label, Prince Rakeem had formed Wu-Tang
Snoop and Dre had a new thang
So Puff drove his new Range through Queensbridge Projects
He let me drive it, before Ready to Die hit
BIG and I hit blunts performing at the Arc
Next thing you knew, BIG blew and all the balling starts
He had Kim and his crew, I found Fox, only niggas in New York with number
one charts
BIG was ahead of his time, him and Raekwon my niggas
But dig it, they couldn’t get along
That’s when Ghostface said it on the Purple tape
Bad Boy biting Nas album cover , wait
BIG told me Rae was stealing my slang
And Rae told me out in Shaolin BIG would do the same thing
But I borrowed from both them niggas
Jigga started to flow like us, but hit with ‘Ain’t No Niggas’
Had much Versace swagger
BIG admired the Brooklyn knight and took him in as Iceberg the rapper
Today don’t know nothing, about this bullshit
There’s more shit than wanting to be this King of New York shit
BK...Then Them Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Yo Nov, chill with the bullshit, lol…

we talkin’ about real shit.. not some fiction nas made up from library books… I can’t wait for a real hphop debate where ni99as put nas vs. jay verse for verse… Nasir is a great journalist with good documenting skills… jay z is a great orator of his real life experiences…

Was Curtis Mayfield actually living in the hood when he was making “Pusherman” or “Freddies Dead”? Was John Lennon being over in Nam the reasoning for his songs pushing for peace in a fight he wasn’t even in? So is Nas to be faulted for picking up on topics he finds relevant or Jay unable to tap into any sort of emotion but his own? I find your reasoning flawed
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Rap became a version of Malcom and Martin
Rest In Peace Will, Queensbridge live on
There’s some ghetto secrets I can’t rhyme in this song
There’s some missing pieces I had to leave out
I had lot trust for Steve Stoute
At some point till I got to know him
We old friends, but what’s loyal?
Puff soaked Interscope offices
With champagne bottles on Steve, and Steve thought the drama is on me
Cause previously it would have been, against whoever
Friends forever
However, I learn, with some niggas it’s all business
But I’m a street dude with morals
To diss niggas with Jigga too much, he used to say Jay wanted my spot
I laughed, stayed home, never hung a lot
A quiet man who used to be alone planning
Baby moms thought I was too quiet, couldn’t stand it
She hit the streets, later on she hittin the sheets
With a rapper who wanted me on his songs, thinking he strong
I taught her how to watch for cars that might follow
Tauht her street shit that I know
Her weakness was shine yo
But that’s her, I ain’t mad baby, it made me stronger
Now I get my paper longer
Illmatic I was boss
It Was Written I flossed
One of the most creative LPs ever to hit stores
In The Firm I learned I Am Nastradamus
QB’s Finest, Oochie Wally, faced more problems
I gave it all up so I can chill at home with mama
She was getting old and sick so I stayed beside her
We had the best times, she asked would I make more songs
I told her not till I see her health get more strong
In the middle of that, Jay tried to sneak attack
Assasinate my character, degrade my hood
Cause in order for him to be the Don, Nas had to go
The Gam-B-I-N-O rules I understood
What you want, see, I already had
The Gift and The Curse? Fuck that shit, the first shall be last
I’m the man’s man, a rapper’s rapper
G-O-D S-O-N, they’ll be none after
I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Those two verses from “Last Real Nigga Alive” are some of the realist shit Nas ever spit.

“Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he’s Puffy”

Ask Dame if Jay took those words to heart
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 pm
the 2nd verse you put up is long but this is basically what he was tryna say:

Nigga see you in the street, pretend to be friendly
But I know any type of success breeds envy
I know in the back of your mind your conjuring ways to hem me
Leave my friends in a circle pouring out Henny
But G’s is heaven bound so how I’m gon’ receive
Anything y’all pour to the ground next time throw it up
And ain’t nothing changed so even in my afterlife I sow it up
Dont grieve for me my art remains
like a dart from the speaker to your heart
Spiritually through the portal now my words as a mortal
Plan to leave without a fight I plant a seed I give life
Though I can’t see past the girls greed to call her wife
Next time your thinking heist better be precise
Cause I’m fully prepared. One of us is gon’ leave here
I have no regrets even though I wanna see growth
My godsons Boogie, Sonny and Rimo

*feel the wordplay*
Brooklyn Strong Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
LOL the Miami Hurricanes QB had Roc Nation written in white letters on the glare strips under his eyes. That devil Jay Z is everywhere.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Ambitionz As A Ridah
Got My Mind Made Up
How Do You Want It
No More Pain
Life Goes On
Heartz Of Men
2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
All Eyez On Me
Check Out Time
Picture Me Rollin
Can’t C Me
Wonder Why They Call You Bitch
Shorty Want To Be A Thug
Thug Passion

Seems like a hell of a lot more hits then misses
.lol
========================
There’s more hits then that too. East Coast cats don’t really fuck with disc 2 like that but that shit is just as well received as disc one in the Mid-West & the West Coast. As a whole AEOM is a West Coast Blueprint.

I’ve grown to enjoy the whole abum. One of the better executed double discs in Hip-Hop.
Gravity Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Can’t y’all, see that he’s fake, the rap version of TD jakes
Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
Won’t break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that’s how you judge Hov, no?
Ain’t I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there’s a tragedy, I’m the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don’t call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
And y’all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don’t mean that he bright
Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?
I’ve been real all my life, they confuse it with deceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There’s a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
Saving me the hassle of speaking to half of these assholes
And I’ma let karma catch up to Jaz-O, whoa
I’m back before you had a chance to miss me
My mama can’t save you this time, niggas is history
Who you know flow vicious as me?
Yet so religiously, that’s why they call me Hov
I get the spoils cause the victor is me (me, nigga)
You’re an actor, you’re not who you’re depicted to be
The street dreamin, all y’all niggas living through me
I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee
I’m a legend, you should take a picture with me
You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee
I’m Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea
And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me
What’s the problem B? You not as hard as me
Nigga hard as we, nigga R O C, nigga
That’s why they follow me, they feel my pain and my agony, nigga
I won’t rest till you on one knee
You want war then it’s war’s gonna be, nigga
Until you on one knee, you want war then it’s war’s gonna be, nigga

*peace Amp, a real life friend is now here to occupy my attention* 1
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I’m capable of anything, my imagination can give me wings
To fly like doves over the streets watchin’ many things
Kids walkin’ home from school on drug blocks, missionaries pass out papers that read “Love God”
See faces, cases, judges& jurors, masons, lawyers and cops
I watch because every thugs face is my mirror
But this was one in particular
This kid he was the vintage stick em up pro
16 years old, did his jail sentence, nowhere to go
Every mornin calls his comrad to come and get him to smoke
He insane, already gone mad
Blames himself for his setbacks
Dangerous street corners where his sets at
Sling from dust to dawn, detectives act like they maniacs
Chasin’ him, his asthma’s flarin’
Smokin’ like a chimney, on Remy, of course he not carin’
He need a place to go to keep his mind expandin’
I give him a helpin’ hand, bring him out to Thugz Mansion

A place where death doesn’t reside, just thugs who collide
Not to start beef but spark trees, no cops rollin by
No policemen, no homicide, no chalk on the streets
No reason, for nobody’s momma to cry
See I’m a good guy, I’m tryin to stick around for my daughter
But if I should die, I know all of my albums support her
This whole year’s been crazy, asked the Holy Spirit to save me
Only difference from me and Ossie Davis, gray hair maybe
Cause I feel like my eyes saw too much sufferin
I’m just twenty-some-odd years, I done lost my mother
And I cried tears of joy, I know she smiles on her boy
I dream of you more, my love goes to Afeni Shakur
Cause like Ann Jones, she raised a ghetto king in a war
And just for that alone she shouldn’t feel no pain no more
Cause one day we’ll all be together, sippin heavnly champagne
What angels saw, with golden wings in Thugz Mansion
======================================
It’s all in the imagery.
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Seems like a hell of a lot more hits then misses
.lol

^^
First off, Check Out Time sucks. No way around that. I was never a fan of Cant C Me, always came off as sound and fury signifying nothing. and though it’s now remembered fondly because of the vid and nature of the collab, Two of Americas most is kinda weak in reality, All Eyez on Mes version of I Love The Dough.

With that said, there’s at least 10 other songs on the album, which are a mix of pointless Outlawz collabs and misogynistic dreck like Whats Your Phone Number. And you can’t find many misses as off target as that shit sub as that song.

You Owe Me >>>>> Whats your Phone # and Scandolus
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Can’t y’all, see that he’s fake, the rap version of TD jakes
Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
Won’t break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that’s how you judge Hov, no?
Ain’t I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there’s a tragedy, I’m the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don’t call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
And y’all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don’t mean that he bright
Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?
I’ve been real all my life, they confuse it with deceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There’s a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
====================================
If Hov can admit defeat, why can’t y’all?
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Nas’ My Way >>>
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
of a song > as that song
Brooklyn Strong Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Later for The Jay z vs Nas debate # 2009874562789
what about the reall heavy weights of rap
fat Joe vs Fred the godson.
and btw Young Coke >>>
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm
If Hov can admit defeat, why can’t y’all?

^^
I think Hov was specifically referring to the listener call in on Hot 97 where he lost the vote. He whined more than a couple times about the matchup being “unfair”.
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
And don’t get me wrong, AEOM is dope, real dope. But the filler ratio is high, especially compared to Life After Death.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
If Hov can admit defeat, why can’t y’all?

^^
I think Hov was specifically referring to the listener call in on Hot 97 where he lost the vote. He whined more than a couple times about the matchup being “unfair”.
================================
You can think what you want, he said even though he lost he still took it as a lesson and that made them even in his eyes.

A good way to rationalize taking an L.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 pm
And don’t get me wrong, AEOM is dope, real dope. But the filler ratio is high, especially compared to Life After Death.
=====================================
You’ve never seen a gang of outta town niggas & bitches, drunk & high, bumping Disc 2 like it was the gospel. I think you’re being crazy critical cause I can’t think of any clear cut skips, honestly.
BK...Then Them Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Wow…thats a first a person that didnt like Check Out Time and Can’t C Me. I get worried when a man talks about another mans misogony. Seems sort of…you know. lol

Regrets
Dead Presidents (first verse)
Lucky Me
You Must Love Me
A Week Ago (could be a story)
Hard Knock Life
Soon You’ll Understand
This Can’t Be Life
Daddy Where Have You Been
Anything
Momma Loves Me
Song Cry
December 4th
99 Problems
allure
Justify My Thug
Beach Chair
30 Something (haha just kidding)
Lost Ones
Minority Report
Sweet (if I remember correctly)
Forever Young

I think that’s a good list of songs where Jay is talking about something deep or at least attempting to.
BK...Then Them Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Lost Tapes cemented 01 as the year of all years for Nas…man
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
And to bring it back to the present, Jay has shown signs of regressing and has even said as much.

Nas hasn’t had any lost a step.

T.I. does Jay-Z better then jay-Z
b-ease Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 pm
You can think what you want, he said even though he lost he still took it as a lesson and that made them even in his eyes.

A good way to rationalize taking an L.

^^
Right, but my point is that he wasn’t rationalizing taking an L for the entire battle, just that vote. He’s never admitted to losing the whole battle, the most recent interview I read he was still talking about Nas not using “facts”. He would never say he won, but overall, he doesn’t think Nas played fair so he’s also not going to consider it a L.
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 pm
A good way to rationalize taking an L.

^^

an L is an L

Nas > Jay-Z just for the simple fact that Nas’s music touches the soul
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 pm
*Nas hasn’t lost a step.

My bad, sour’s taking effect lol.
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:00 am
youtube.com/watch?v=2qcXwsP4t1Q

AND SO THE LEGEND CONTINUES…

Niggas
Against
Society!!
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:00 am
I get worried when a man talks about another mans misogony

^^
Grow up nigga. I’m all for misogny when it’s hilarious (Em, NWA, Redman), or satiric or at least clever (Jay in his prime), but Pacs use of it on AEOM was just unimaginative and boring. Scandolous puts me to sleep.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:00 am
but overall, he doesn’t think Nas played fair so he’s also not going to consider it a L.
================================
Again, a good way to rationalize taking an L.

You’ve never heard Nas make any excuses of any kind.

Cause he knows he won.

Jay doesn’t display the same confidence.
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am
T.I. does Jay-Z better then jay-Z

^^
Let’s not get crazy.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Scandolous puts me to sleep.
=========================
Now you buggin’.
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:02 am
i mean … Nas had lil kids singin “I KNOW I CAN, BE WHAT I WANNA BE”

THAT RIGHT THERE > “we aaare yea i said it we arrrreee…UNH UNH”
BK...Then Them Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:02 am
*Nas hasn’t lost a step.

My bad, sour’s taking effect lol.

God’s Son was shaky but he officially lost me from SD and beyond smh
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am
T.I. does Jay-Z better then jay-Z

^^
Let’s not get crazy
===================
I’m not even bullshitting.

Keep acting like T.I. ain’t the southern Jay-Z.

And he’s still young.

Bad judgment and jail time are the only things holding him back.
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Cause he knows he won.

^^
I’m not saying he doesn’t know. Of course he does. I’m saying he’s never said as much publically or on record and he never will.
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:05 am
*Nas hasn’t lost a step.

^^
He’s still spitting, but HHID and Untitled are some of the weakest projects in his catalogue. Both them niggas is getting old.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:06 am
God’s Son was shaky
================
You serious?

See, Jay-Z done conditioned y’all to tuning out whenever the subject matter is any thing but diamonds, cryst, bitches, etc.

God’s Son is dope.

SD was a vanity project but despite being self indulgent, there were still a handfull of good to great songs.

HHID & Untitled are both really good albums even though Untitled was too cerebral; for the mainstream.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:07 am
# BK…Then Them Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:02 am

*Nas hasn’t lost a step.

My bad, sour’s taking effect lol.

God’s Son was shaky but he officially lost me from SD and beyond smh
^^^^^^^^^^^
KILL YOURSELF God Son is a top 4 Nas album…

Book Of Rhymes
Revolutionary Warfare
Last Real Nigga
Mastermind
Pussy Killz
Zone Out

my goodness that album was raw
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am
October 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Scandolous puts me to sleep.
=========================
Now you buggin’.

^^
Even as a 13 year old Pac stan, just couldn’t dig it.
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am
the only bad album Nas has is Nastradamaus…your reaching or hating you say other wise
PINCH Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am
nas - doo rags > post-it was written
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:11 am
God’s Son >>>>

Crack. The best sequence of opening tracks on any Nas album besides Illmatic. Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite Nas LP.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:12 am
the only bad album Nas has is Nastradamaus…your reaching or hating you say other wise
================================
I’m not a huge I Am fan or Streets Disciple but neither of them are out and out awful.
Lil' Nello Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Nation it appears you have some explaining to do lol?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEQlcJQ7-I&feature=player_embedded
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:14 am
the only bad album Nas has is Nastradamaus…

^^
I don’t think Nastradamus is wack unlike most. Besides for God Love Us, New World and Owe Me, I can bump every single song. Now don’t get me wrong, the songs aren’t all crack, but they’re at least real good weed.

I’d rather listen to Nastradamus than Untitled. *straight face*
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Queens Get The Money & Fried Chicken > anything on Nastradamus
BK...Then Them Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:20 am
You serious?

See, Jay-Z done conditioned y’all to tuning out whenever the subject matter is any thing but diamonds, cryst, bitches, etc.

God’s Son is dope.

SD was a vanity project but despite being self indulgent, there were still a handfull of good to great songs.

HHID & Untitled are both really good albums even though Untitled was too cerebral; for the mainstream.

I call it like I see it Nas has been crap post Thiefs Theme album wise. God’s Son could have been so much more but was hindered by wack production to me. I don’t count Pussy Killz because that was bonus. Get Down & Made You Look then shit went way downhill beatwise
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Heaven? I Can? Revolutionary Warfare?

Again, you buggin lol.
PW Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:26 am
I hate talking about hip hop or football with ppl who aren’t hip hop or football heads. That shit irks me to no end.
AmpGeez a.k.a I'm A Jerk Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:26 am
I call it like I see it Nas has been crap post Thiefs Theme
=================================
HHID is a strong album. I can see how you may not fuck with Untitled but HHID is top 3 Nas albums with illmatic & Stillmatic being the other 2.
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Queens Get The Money & Fried Chicken > anything on Nastradamus

^^
Oh no doubt, the two best songs on Untitled are definetly better than any individual song on Nastadamus side by side. The album as a whole is just a more consistent and satisfying total sonic experience.
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:29 am
Bootleg I Am and the Nigger Tape (word to joe88) >>>>
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Street Disciple is a dope album as well….the only track i didnt like was Bridging the Gap…(i know its a song with his pops) but it was corny ass hell
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:33 am
i didnt like was Bridging the Gap…(i know its a song with his pops) but it was corny ass hell

^^
co-sign
b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:35 am
The shit with Maxwell was really bad too. Black Shampoo status.
nestle snipes Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:38 am
HHID is a classic…that song where he goes at Jim Jones was crazy sick.

HHID ironically proved that HH was alive.

im typing this from club china on my bb…with a cutie leaning on me…lol
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:38 am
# b-ease Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:35 am

The shit with Maxwell was really bad too. Black Shampoo status.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that song was dope but it didnt belong in the scheme of Street Disciple completely out of place
NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:41 am
youtube.com/watch?v=_4m2HDuoReM

one of Nas best philosophical gangsta songs
SDP aka the somali pirate Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:47 am
youtube.com/watch?v=Amsr5xFu18s&feature=related > any hip-hop song ever
nestle snipes Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:47 am
youtube.com/watch?v=9FMzZ-OOvBI&feature=player_embedded

Beef erupts between G-Unit and D-Block…50 Cent and Jada get into it…..Sheek and Styles are held back by Maino as Tony Yayo and co. approach them aggressively at the Thisis50.com concert on Gov. Island..

i thought it was squashed…?
Rakim Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:50 am
“MY FEATURES ARE THAT OF A GOD”

There nothing Hov’s entire catalog that can even come close to that.

Nas is a poet. Jay is a EmCee
nestle snipes Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:51 am
A maino vs. 50 cent fight would be interesting…i wonder who would win…too bad their cool…

a lloyd banks vs. jadakiss freestyle live rap battle…would be insane…i got my money the kid banks….jada washed up
nestle snipes Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:55 am
I seen Mike Knox was there….Trav was there….Yayo was there….Johnny Depp from Skull Gang was there….he fuckin with 50 more than he fuck with Juelz, Kasa and Jimy and byrdgang…
BStuyboi Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Amp its really a shame you ride jay-z’s dick harder than ANY stan. Anytime I come thru Nahright and read the comments his name is in one of your posts. I mean I knew you was a lame but…damn
reem Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 2:11 am
lmao, i still question skull gangs existence. i’m under the impression it’s a figment of juelz’s imagination.
Zee!! Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Skull from Pinky > Skull gang
Seth Gueko Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 7:37 am
empireonline.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/lord-of-the-rings/

movie poster vs rap shyt

mash ups !
sleep Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:22 am
»»»»Nas “getting married”

That bitch is dirty. I like the song initially but now I just feel sorry for GOD SON he had it bad no usher
D_Block_4_Life Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Did Grand Puba recently put out a mixtape?
D_Block_4_Life Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Warning Shots 2 didn’t leak yet?
breezie Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
this niggas is wack

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