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Dame Dash Interview w/ Billboard

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dame-vday

I gotta tell you, throughout all of the financial, legal and baby moms fuckery Dame has been dealing with, I always figured he’d be good in the long run, because a good woman by your side goes a long way. Needless to say, it was kinda shocking to hear that Rachel hit your boy with divorce papers earlier this month.

Dame recently sat for an interview with Billboard’s Mariel Concepcion and spoke about his co-sign of Jim Jones, 360 deals, how the recession is affecting the fashion industry and the affect that his cold war with Jay-Z has had on his career. Obviously, this was prior to Rachel serving him with those papers.

On the Jones album:

How will Jones’ album do?

I have no idea. I’m not out there like that. I’m in my house taking care of my kids. I meet Jimmy in the studio and I go to rehearsal, that’s it. But I’m not in the community like I used to be. I just know that good records sell. But I also know I don’t depend so much on record sales; I depend on the brand.

On 360 deals:

What do you think of 360 deals?

The 360 deals are smart for those who don’t have a brand set up yet. If you don’t have anything and you have someone that’s going to put $1 million or $2 million into building your brand, then they deserve a piece of it. But if you already have your following, then I wouldn’t do a 360 deal. It’s like the Cool Kids—they don’t need the record company. An artist has to look at it like this: If you can’t do it on your own, and you need the record company to do it for you, then you have to give up a piece. Get a record company only when you need it.

On the recession:

How has the recession affected your business strategy?

At this time, you have to generate a lot of things and make it within an affordable price point and you have to be better than everybody. I do see brands on every level that still do well. But everything just seems oversaturated and everyone is trying to make a buck. Everyone was trying to do the same thing, so the minute urban fashion got good, everyone had a clothing line. And the minute music got good, everyone started a label.

And finally, Dame had this to say about the aftermath of his split with Hov:

“It was like, either you are on his side or on mine,” he says. “And because of all that, there’s resistance on every level with me and the shit just bugs me out.”

Shit is sad really. I mean, he sounded crushed and frustrated, and that was before the wifey drama.What can you really say other than, hold your head Dame, you’re a smart dude, I trust you’ll weather the storm.

Read an excerpt of the Q&A here and register to read the rest, or pick up the 3/28 issue of Billboard.

This entry was posted by eskay on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pm and is filed under Books/Magazines, Interviews. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

128 Responses to “Dame Dash Interview w/ Billboard”

D. Billz Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I saw little niggas going from barely being able to read, to having hundreds of Blood codes memorized.

^I’m still amazed by the number of misguided youths on Youtube that can stack with precision. It’s people that are in college majoring in Sign Language for Deaf Studies that aren’t even close to mastering it.
D. Billz Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
On the Jones album:

How will Jones’ album do?

I have no idea. I’m not out there like that. I’m in my house taking care of my kids. I meet Jimmy in the studio and I go to rehearsal, that’s it. But I’m not in the community like I used to be. I just know that good records sell. But I also know I don’t depend so much on record sales; I depend on the brand.

^Translation: It’s gonna brick, so let me give you a vague answer nestled into an excuse in order to save face.
babydoll Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
10 years ago…who saw this in Dame’s future?
red dirt Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
gucci!

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Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
ohhhhhhh oooooooooooooo
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March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
if your girl wanted to pose for Playboy what is the protocol? basically means the relationship is over right?
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Basically. She’ll be fucking Pauly Shore or David Spade before her issue even hits the stands lol.
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
“It was like, either you are on his side or on mine,” he says. “And because of all that, there’s resistance on every level with me and the shit just bugs me out.”

^^^

damn dame. it’ll get greater later homie.
Big_seth Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Dame is actually decently smart. I don’t know him, but from what I can tell his ego may have a lot to do with this downfall.

I think he is right about the cool kids. They don’t need a major.
Jersey*made*me Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Matters where her head is at…some broads have a grip on reality and do that type of shit and keep it all business.

If she’s a starstruck type of person, or one desperately looking for attention/gratification….maaaan…all hell could break loose

^^
Tahiry is gonna be the poster child for this experiment.Niggas pay close attention.
Beezy Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Question they missed:

Dame, you keep mentioning a brand and strategy…don’t you need a business to have either of those?
babydoll Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Dame is actually decently smart. I don’t know him, but from what I can tell his ego may have a lot to do with this downfall.

^that’s my guess…I’m sure Rachel was tired of putting up with that shit
sean coonery Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Honestly, those fake bloods in NY and ATL…

get there food ate….by LA Crips
Big_seth Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
# AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

if your girl wanted to pose for Playboy what is the protocol? basically means the relationship is over right?
====================================
Basically. She’ll be fucking Pauly Shore or David Spade before her issue even hits the stands lol.
^^

I know for an absolute 100% fact that my girl wouldn’t fuck… those guys. Now let a pretty nigga walk in there & it’s a different story. lol
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Tahiry is gonna be the poster child for this experiment.Niggas pay close attention.

^ tahiry will leave budden as soon as her potential career starts becoming successful
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I think he is right about the cool kids. They don’t need a major.

^^^

i’ve thought about that too. but what would be the next step from what they doin now?
bk2lv Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
dame still the man (nh)…… niggas need to respect man…
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Yeah, it’s fucked up how they did the nigga Dame. You’d think with all the success with The Roc & all his other side ventures, someone would give this dude a shot.

I’m not saying Dame was a saint, but Hov did the nigga dirty, b.
rex hussla Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I remember when Casketface first showed up…before anybody knew who/what he was, he was going on and on about how he was an industry “insider” w/e w/e. But he was just going on and on about how Dame has been waaaay more successful than Hov since the split and we wouldn’t understand because we aren’t in the industry. Maaaaaan good times.
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
also this nigga dame lost.

i kinda feel bad for him (nhjic)
Jersey*made*me Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Honestly, those fake bloods in NY and ATL…

get there food ate….by LA Crips

^
That’s what’s up.Applaud L.A.
babydoll Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
rex hussla Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I remember when Casketface first showed up…before anybody knew who/what he was, he was going on and on about how he was an industry “insider” w/e w/e. But he was just going on and on about how Dame has been waaaay more successful than Hov since the split and we wouldn’t understand because we aren’t in the industry. Maaaaaan good times.

^*dies* the timing of this comment is impeccable…impeccably hard ©Fuxie
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
who is this ‘casketface’ you all speak of so fondly (*sarcasm*) was he turfed by the nahggers or doe she use another alias now?
green eyes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
# herbal kint Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

green eyes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
if i get arrested for army guns, think id be able to never to go jail like clifford?

… yes but you would have to do some different type of ” charity work ” and I’d post your bail for you greenie ….

^ thanks ty. long time no e see you too
Jersey*made*me Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Yeah, it’s fucked up how they did the nigga Dame. You’d think with all the success with The Roc & all his other side ventures, someone would give this dude a shot.

^^
We on the outside looking in.You don’t know how much $$ or business he lost for Rocafella with his bullshit and poor judgement.
green eyes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
they coulda planned this so he could file bankruptcy and she hides whatever pennies they still have left
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
That’s what’s up.Applaud L.A.
^^

Yessirrrr!!!!
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I think he is right about the cool kids. They don’t need a major.

^^^

i’ve thought about that too. but what would be the next step from what they doin now?
============================================
They don’t need a major to make records, continue touring , etc. But to get to that next level, you need the resources & exposure a major can offer you.
Their gonna sign with a major after this first album. Either that, or be content being indie stars.
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
can a nigga get moderated (none) for a name change?

also what up esk with that iphone friendly site, i still say a nahright iphone app would be dope.
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Curtis dropped “The Expendables” to completely focus on Before I Self Destruct

^^^
FAIL. eh’body know them screenactors guild cards is a definite pay out.
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
dude has lost everything he loved…………His mom -> Aaliyah,-> Rocafella->, his money -> pride -> Now wifey
still a filthy rich but damn dash
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
still a filthy rich but damn dash

^
hes not rich anymore, hes broke and owes pure money to law firms, accountants etc

his car was even taken away by court order last year lol.
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
We on the outside looking in.You don’t know how much $$ or business he lost for Rocafella with his bullshit and poor judgement.
============================================
But I doubt his failure’s outweigh his successes. Dame has a proven record as a winner. I think losing the ROC damaged the nigga mentally more then we know.
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I’m not saying Dame was a saint, but Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

^^^
yea he did.
Big_seth Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
# kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

I think he is right about the cool kids. They don’t need a major.

^^^

i’ve thought about that too. but what would be the next step from what they doin now?
^^

They can do the ROC route & do it indie & really make something big later. They already have so much invested in themselves They can make it work.
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Fast fwd 2011 Jaz O and Dame polly’ing on the same couch saying “Fuck Jay”
BARPAN Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I actually have a 30 min interview w dame talkin a lil more greazzzy about alot of these topics.. but got so much respect for what he has done for the culture…dont want people to take it the wrong way.. so im doin extra exttra editing …im not a journalist so its not about “good journalism” its just about gettin a specific message to kids tryna be entrpreneurs…coming soon!!!
4shizzle Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
hov has female traits
Darth Cipher Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Dash stay falling in the pit… who woulda thunk it?!?!
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Dame Diddy Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy

Never liked this nigga….I’ll spit/piss in his 40 oz…when he files for bankruptcy
pockets Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Kid Cudi says “Me and Wale got into a screaming match”

^they were arguing over who’s jeans were tighter they followed it up by going shopping and having a pillow fight

@greenie WATSUP!
Jersey*made*me Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Fast fwd 2011 Jaz O and Dame polly’ing on the same couch saying “Fuck Jay”

^^
LMFAO,aggy as shit talking bout”I can expose that nigga but that ain’t my style”.
Ghost Writer Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
*turns up Mr. Carter instrumental*

I forgot how rich Jay is
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Like Kids will actually take advice from Dame Dash…

You might as well take advice from the 40 year old nigga livin in the projects…

Or the turd that lives in his momma basement…
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
dame dash owns more than 100 millions
he’s not broke!
JDS Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

I’m not saying Dame was a saint, but Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

^^^
yea he did.
^^^
i dont think so… not to defend Jay, but i think the Roc got too big for its own good.
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
# I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

Fast fwd 2011 Jaz O and Dame polly’ing on the same couch saying “Fuck Jay”

^Who was that nigga on WSHH video…that said he would smack the shit outta Sauce Money and Memphis Bleek…and they wouldn’t do nothing back…

ROFFLE
green eyes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
POCKETS!!!!!!!
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Dame went from Jay-Z to fucking Jim Jones…SMFH

That’s like one day driving a Mercedes Benz S550….then coming back through the hood in a beat down Honda Civic/Accord….

Niggas be like “WTF happened to you…?”
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Fuck all you hoes.
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
dame dash owns more than 100 millions
he’s not broke!

^^^

to me it aint so much the paper. like amp said i think that niggas spirit was crushed after the roc folded on him. and i’ve felt that before. shit sux.
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
jay buys dame dash’s parts for 30
and sells rocawear for 240,
jay is smarter than dame.
point blank period
u don’t think, somake another hov
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
>>Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

nah
D. Billz Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
youtube.com/watch?v=-mSPRlrnhCc

^Old Cash Money footage from a show. Baby askin’ grown men to come on stage and… dance?
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
medicine for the soul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97m8lTyFfk8
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
did someone say cash money.

anyway
this is medicine for the soul
youtube.com/watch?v=97m8lTyFfk8
Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Accessing this information requires a subscription to Billboard.BIZ
^^^^^
wtf ….. *doesnt read*

Dame still owns a peace of Reasonable Doubt

I once heard the Product G and B who did that song MARIA MARIA would get 50k every six months off that Santana Album now if they are smart and put some of that away they could be super straight right now
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
lol no homo at that vid of Baby
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
How did Dame fuck up the label,as i recall when he signed Cam that was their first success story in terms of record sales
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
maybe not 100milli
but dame is as rich as JD, Nelly
so dat’s big nevertheless
but remember in 1999
rocawear was $500 millions (profits)
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
in five years
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
>>Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

nah

^^^

he kinda did. i mean, if we a team and we tryna get something outta the owners/management to better the team, how you gonna go on vacation w/them being the teams captain & not rep the squad?
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
# D. Billz Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

youtube.com/watch?v=-mSPRlrnhCc

^Old Cash Money footage from a show. Baby askin’ grown men to come on stage and… dance?

^^

no nigga.. Stunna Pa’ just showin niggas love to show wut kinda real nigga he is
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Jay Electronica stands smack in the middle of the genius/herb line
…this nigga be on some other shit
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
>>he kinda did. i mean, if we a team and we tryna get something outta the owners/management to better the team, how you gonna go on vacation w/them being the teams captain & not rep the squad?

on the same note, how you gonna appoint a nigga you know from the old neighborhood VP while I’m on vacation?

point is, there was probably alot of shit that happened behind the scenes that we don’t know about, but from what I have heard, Jay didn’t do Dame dirty.

They had a disagreement and they split. I’m sure they were both at fault in one way or another.
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
# D. Billz Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

youtube.com/watch?v=-mSPRlrnhCc

^Old Cash Money footage from a show. Baby askin’ grown men to come on stage and… dance?
^^
and the track is Back that Ass Up
JDS Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
# I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Jay Electronica stands smack in the middle of the genius/herb line
…this nigga be on some other shit
^^^
LOL why the herb line? and please dont say that twitter during the baby delivery shit.
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
SDP the type to get on stage
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
2006:
1. P. Diddy $346 Million
2. Jay-Z $340 Million
3. Russell Simmons $325 Million
4. Damon Dash $200 Million
5. The Neptunes $155 Million
6. Dr. Dre $150 Million
7. Ice Cube $145 Million
8. Eminem $110 Million
9. 50 Cent $100 Million
10. Nelly $60 Million
11. (Tie) Jermaine Dupri $60 Million
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
>>Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

nah
===========================
He hung the dude out to dry. If you have a choice to go with Dame or to go with jay, who you gonna side with?

Fucked up shit is, Dame helped make all those other Roc artist’s career. Jay is not a good label executive. All his time as Def Jam pres & he only broke R&B acts.

C’mon, b.

Roc-A-Fella was Dame’s company. Jay-Z was cool just rapping. He coulda handled the split better then he did. He basically tried to turn the industry against Dame.
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
They had a disagreement and they split. I’m sure they were both at fault in one way or another.

^^^
agreed. cuz i think its a loss for both of them. neither rap or the roc been the same since. not that it should. but rocs hey day has yet to be rivaled.
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
blackentrepreneurshalloffame.blogspot.com/2005/11/damon-dash
.html
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
^Old Cash Money footage from a show. Baby askin’ grown men to come on stage and… dance?
^^
and the track is Back that Ass Up
=========================================
Very suspect.
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
# I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

SDP the type to get on stage

^^

hell fuckin yea nigga. anything to meet weezy. in which i will be doing this friday
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
these niggas is fools:

The Snuggie Life

http://www.hostilehumor.com/?p=3
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Hov was successful as Def Jam’s president regardless of what artist he broke, just want to be clear.
Darth Cipher Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
SDP Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
# I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

SDP the type to get on stage

^^

hell fuckin yea nigga. anything to meet weezy. in which i will be doing this friday
^^^

don’t forget your knee pads, gotta get through Young Money before you get to Weezy… but i’m sure you’re cool with that right???

smh at niggas loving same sex celebs to such a degree, where’s your dignity???
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
jay created rihanna, brings out rick ross and jeezy
that’s enough
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
>>He hung the dude out to dry.

I don’t see how.
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
LOL why the herb line? and please dont say that twitter during the baby delivery shit.
^^
He always trying to sound to sound like a nuclear physicist and dresses like an herb (no homo)….

Alot of dudes on here would twitter through their childs birth too,I wasnt mad at that
Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
*hangs nuts out to dry*
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
# Darth Cipher Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

SDP Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
# I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

SDP the type to get on stage

^^

hell fuckin yea nigga. anything to meet weezy. in which i will be doing this friday
^^^

don’t forget your knee pads, gotta get through Young Money before you get to Weezy… but i’m sure you’re cool with that right???

smh at niggas loving same sex celebs to such a degree, where’s your dignity???

^^^

im from the bay brodie.

if we can get throu swat we can get through anything…

even if have to snatch a chain to make it to TMZ
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
it all comes down to, Dame wouldn’t be who he is without Jay. niggas always talking about Dame was the business genius, but really how much of genius do you have to be when you got the God M.C. fronting the label?
PHENOMENON Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
“When then money goes, will the honeys stay?/Will rain clouds replace the sunny days?”

I hate to see Dame in that position. ~~[ll]~~
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I’ve had this Jay/Dame debate so many time man… i rather not…
JDS Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
# AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

>>Hov did the nigga dirty, b.

nah
===========================
He hung the dude out to dry. If you have a choice to go with Dame or to go with jay, who you gonna side with?

Fucked up shit is, Dame helped make all those other Roc artist’s career. Jay is not a good label executive. All his time as Def Jam pres & he only broke R&B acts.

C’mon, b.

Roc-A-Fella was Dame’s company. Jay-Z was cool just rapping. He coulda handled the split better then he did. He basically tried to turn the industry against Dame.
^^
but at the same time, thats not Jay’s fault niggas thought they were going to eat off of his success. i feel like the fact that they had to choose between one or the other is the fucked up part. thats what i was saying about the Roc being too big. dudes were gaining notoriety off of their affiliation to the label rather than their own merit, so the prospect of successfully running by themselves was slim to none.

Jay built himself from the ground up. i wouldnt have been dumb enough to think that a dude who went the hard road in such a difficult industry was going to give me a break or let me live off of his success [no Bleek]
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Fast Fwd 2011: Dre and Nate on a couch in Canada aying Fuck that nigga Es
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
times*
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
eskay Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
>>He hung the dude out to dry.

I don’t see how.
==========================
Dame signed Beans, Freeway, Kanye, etc. For Jay to bounce with damn newar the entire roster was tough. I dunno how Dame fucked up his relationship with Beans, but Jay turned the rest of the Roc against dude & he wasn’t nearly as instrumental in their careers as Dame. Hov could rap, but Dame had vision.
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
SDP the type to wait for a nigga backstage…
Nate McCartney Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
@ Seth Gueko -

those #’s were never realistic…
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
# Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

SDP the type to wait for a nigga backstage…

^^

i never done dat for immortal technique..

i never done that for lupe, mos,brother ali, dead prez, etc
but i just might do it this time..
kevfrescura de talco Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Fast Fwd 2011: Dre and Nate on a couch in Canada aying Fuck that nigga Es

^^^

*brofflligized*
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
but Jay turned the rest of the Roc against dude
^^
That’s funny because i swear i heard O, Peedi, Dipset, Free, Sparks all say super slick shit about Hov. Also Beans initially signed with Dame..
Danielson Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
can a nigga get a name change?
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
SMH @ Wayne look like the Illegitimate Child of Flava Flav
I Hate My Job Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
# AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

eskay Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
>>He hung the dude out to dry.

I don’t see how.
==========================
Dame signed Beans, Freeway, Kanye, etc. For Jay to bounce with damn newar the entire roster was tough. I dunno how Dame fucked up his relationship with Beans, but Jay turned the rest of the Roc against dude & he wasn’t nearly as instrumental in their careers as Dame. Hov could rap, but Dame had vision.

^^
There was video a while back of Beans just out the pen talking about how the whole situation was fucked up but would prolly go with Jay for career interests.Dont think they have issues
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
SMH @ Wayne look like the Illegitimate Child of Flava Flav
^^
That’s actually true.
lol Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
what happened to jimmys corporate thuggin position at sony?
Danielson a.k.a. King Kojo of Berekum Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
can a nigga get a name change??
b-ease Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
LF : That new Baby/Wayne shit is killin it rite now as far as mainstream singles go.
b-ease Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
lol Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
what happened to jimmys corporate thuggin position at sony?

^^
Good fucking question.
Nestle Snipes Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Niggas care about Dame like he’s there father or some shit..

“Poor Dame, he must be going through hard times. He seems distraught. Hopefully he can make it through… “

the nigga is fine….doing better than you niggas making 40 or 30k a year…
D_Block_4_Life Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
That new Baby/Wayne shit is killin it rite now as far as mainstream singles go.
^^
What song is this?
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
PHENOMENON Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
“When then money goes, will the honeys stay?/Will rain clouds replace the sunny days?”

I hate to see Dame in that position. [ll]

^^
great post !

D_Block_4_Life Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
but Jay turned the rest of the Roc against dude
^^
That’s funny because i swear i heard O, Peedi, Dipset, Free, Sparks all say super slick shit about Hov. Also Beans initially signed with Dame..

^^^^
Beans With Dame, Album Was A Success (Gold)
but that was maybe the jail’s effect ? nah
b-ease Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
^^
What song is this?

^^
I honestly don’t know the title, but the hook is Wayne like “…when I’m in the club/niggas give me dap/bitches show me love/…”
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
That’s funny because i swear i heard O, Peedi, Dipset, Free, Sparks all say super slick shit about Hov.
==========================================
That’s after they realized Jay didn’t give a fuck about them or their careers. He never did. He only took over Roc-A-Fella to spite Dame & Biggs.

I see shades of Bitchassness.
PHENOMENON Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
# eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

it all comes down to, Dame wouldn’t be who he is without Jay. niggas always talking about Dame was the business genius, but really how much of genius do you have to be when you got the God M.C. fronting the label?

^ ^
From the outside looking in I think he was somewhat obsessed with living out that “Hustler’s” persona.

He had to be seen as a fly hustler at all times and at all costs. This probably meant throwing money at any venture popped into his head or came his way no matter how volatile or the likelihood of success.

He may have also put his “Hood loyalties” ahead of sound business practice as well. Signing a bunch of failed artists. Not saying they weren’t talented but if I were an exec I wouldn’t have signed any of them. [Maybe Cameron and 'em]

Idk, that’s just from my view point looking in from outside. I’m sure there’s plenty of things that contributed that we all didn’t see.
eskay Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
>>Dame signed Beans, Freeway, Kanye, etc. For Jay to bounce with damn newar the entire roster was tough.

^so you’re gonna blame Jay for that? Jay shoulda been like, nah, go with Dame? come on b, you wouldn’t do that in that situation and you know it.

>>Jay turned the rest of the Roc against dude & he wasn’t nearly as instrumental in their careers as Dame.

^you have no proof of none of that

>>Hov could rap, but Dame had vision.

niggas with vision are a dime a dozen, superstar rappers are not.
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
lol Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
what happened to jimmys corporate thuggin position at sony?
===========================================
He got fired.

In 2009 Jim Jones became Vice President of Urban A&R at Koch Records which is now E1 Music. He just signed Skull Gang, so I’d expect him to lose this gig within the year.
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
youtube.com/watch?v=sr20AY-EuIo

I LIKE A BITCH………
DAT LIKE A BITCH
FUCKIN RIGHT IM RICH
And I Aint Gettin Hitch
Im Gettin Paid in full
Call Me Money Mitch
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
ballin like Tony Gwynn
SDP Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Im Never Lonely In The Penthouse
And All The Time A Nigga Think
She At A Friends House
Ok, I Put The Phantom Up
And Bought The Bent Out
Its Weezy Baby Bitch…
Im Hot Like All The Vents Out…haha
Seth Gueko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
if u want a successful career, do ya thang, built ya own destiny
rappers must to remember what jayz did with all his songs and stuff
great albums each years that’s a fact. facts talk.
AmpGeez a.k.a. Mr. Solo Dolo Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
you have no proof of none of that
==========================
The artist themselves have said as much. Dame was constantly pushing & doing promo for the label’s artist. The most Jay did is feature on a song or two.

Jay shoulda been like, nah, go with Dame? come on b, you wouldn’t do that in that situation and you know it.
=======================================
But why sign artists when you know you don’t care about them doing well.

Look how they threw those Bleek & Young Gunz albums out there. Those shits were decent albums, but destinied to brick just based on how they were handled. Jay wasn’t pushing to sign Kanye as a rapper. I’ll admit, you can’t lose with an MC like Jay, but The Roc grew to be more then just Jay-Z & you gotta give Dame credit for that. Roc-A-Wear, Armadale, Dash Films, all ventures that Dame & Biggs brought to the table, sharing with Jay. Jay did the 40/40 deal for dolo. He’s done some shady shit.
Nate McCartney Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Say what you want about Dame, he has helped a lot of people better their lives. A lof of artists & former employees need to ask themselves this question before they criticize Dame, “What was I doing before I met Dame?” and the answer to the large majority of cases is absolutely nothing.

I thought that Kanye’s response when on MTV a few years back was the most honest, and that was “I wish I could do what’s best for me and dame at the same time.”
lol Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
lol Says:

March 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
what happened to jimmys corporate thuggin position at sony?

^^
Good fucking question.

^^

i still remember the youtube video of him in a wifebeater in the elevator with a bunch of suits.

that shit ended quicksmart
j Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Dame signed Kanye! dame fucked up by not lockin kanye down to him when he signed him. had he did that, he would’ve neva fell off. kanye makin songs about jay-z, when jay wouldn’t even give him a chance to get in the game. jay doesn’t have one friend from his past that says anything good about him. just bleek and ty-ty and dats cause they kiss his ass.
Ron Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I read that Kanye (as an artist) was Dame’s idea. Jay thought it was a horrible idea(in terms of his “cred”). Dame was going to sign one of the Spice Girls, Jay also hated the idea. Also appointing CAM a position without Jay knowin was kinda foul. I think Jay probably took that shit personal. They were two men who started to get 2 different visions. Jay got “corporate” with his BFF. I think he did him kinda dirty but damn no one was playing “fair”. Personally, I do think Jay got some loyalty issues (outside of Bleek, NO ONE has anything good to say) We waiting for Beyonce to write that book.
Combat Jack Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
couldn’t have happened to a “nicer” guy.
Black Bully of Billyburg aka THe LUrKeR Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
LuuUUUrrrRRRRRkkkkkk !
Mike Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Yea I remeber dame sayin jimmys album was reasonable doubt status. Now he dosent know how the album is.
Al from DC Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Sorry to say, but Dam is not the Visionary that yall think. All he did was follow in the foot steps of Russell Simmons, and Diddy. Dame had not 1 orginal idea. Then at that, Dame got star struck. He was in the spot light to much. I am sure if Dame was on his game making sure he was finding good business deals for his artist, and not trying to be in the spot light he would still be with Jay.

Think about it, imagine if your partner fired your people and promoted some new guy while you are on vacation. Or you business partner doing deals side deals when yall are suppose to be a team. If yall have read the source back in 2003 Jay could have pushed Dame out of Roc-a-fella a long time ago, Lyor gave Jay the option and he turned it down. It was not until Dame got to Hollywood that Jay split. Then at that Dame was bought out from Roc-a-Fella and Roc-a-Wear. As the other dude said, you can find a dude with a Vision at any time, but to find real talent, that is something!

Lastly this is business, if Jay would have put his friendship before the business Jay would not have a piece of the Nets, 40/40, sold Roc-a-Wear, possible hotels, or a net worth of over 500 mill! It was a smart buisness move. Finally, Dame was not some child hood friend. He was introduced to Dame by Clark Kent when Jay was already establishing a buzz. They relationship started with Buisness, and ended with business, so what could you expect?
Ha Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 2:59 am
“When the money goes will the honeys stay”
spirit equality Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Fucked up shit is, Dame helped make all those other Roc artist’s career. Jay is not a good label executive. All his time as Def Jam pres & he only broke R&B acts.

^^^ rick ross and jeezy are not r&b acts. stop rewriting history, fam.
Themodelj Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Props to Ms.Concepcion she did her thing, she asked the right questions.
franklanzkie Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
spirit equality Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 3:27 am

^^^ rick ross and jeezy are not r&b acts. stop rewriting history, fam.

Actually, Rick Ross & Jeezy were already signed to the label when Jay was appointed the position at Def Jam by LA Reid. LA Reid signed Jeezy & Ross, not Hov.

I love Jay-Z’s music. He’s the best to ever do it, a top-notch lyricist and he’s made a ton of money, but the fact remains that as a record company executive Jay-Z’s track record sucks. Rihanna’s success is due to LA Reid, not Hov. Reid discovered here & got Jay to sign her. Teiarra Mari, who Jay discovered & signed, bricked. Every LP, other than Yeezy, Jeezy & Ross, released under Hov’s tenure as President bricked. How does Beanie Sigel go Gold in prison under Dame, but only sells Wood under Jay? That’s why u haven’t heard Beans say anything…that nigga is salty. Freeway bricked, Bleek bricked, Young Guns, who had the biggest chance of success, double bricked. When Dame was running the Roc all of those artists were routinely going Gold and better (only Platinum they saw was with Cam).

Hov is doing way better than Dame there is no question or doubt in that. But Hov’s ventures were always about Hov, not the team. The S.Carter shoe was brokered through Steve Stoute. If this was a team move why wasn’t it called the Rocafella shoe? The 40/40 venture was also brokered only in the interest of Hov…no thought of team building/branding there. When Dame tried to get into the .mp3 player market, he called it the Roc Box, not Dash MP3 or something. He was thinking of the team. Hov thought the idea was stupid and didnt back it, but guess what? Everyone only listens to mp3’s now!!!! Dame was about the team & building a brand. Hov was about personal and building the Jay-Z brand. Honestly, Jay split from Dame long before the public knew anything.

At the end of the day, we’re all human and we all fuck up and I’m sure that there are some regrets on both sides. Dame is hurting and going thru a tough time, but I’m sure that he’ll pull out just fine.
GMZ Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
FRANKLANZKIE,

First of all you’re out of your mind if you think LA Reid or Jay “discovered” anyone. They’re execs! They make the signing decision, they’re not out there chasing after talent.

Second, how are you going to grade Hov based on who he discovered and how their sales were, and then flip and give Dame props for Beans when he DIDNT DISCOVER BEANS?? Fall back. Lets not forget, Dame didnt even want to put Yeezy’s album out (neither did Jay)! That alone should kill their music executive careers. All what artists were routinely going gold?? You make it sound like these niggaz dropped 20 albums while they were on the ROC signed to Jay and Dame. Dame gets the credit for signing Cam…BUT since you’re judging niggaz’ exec ability based on who they discovered…well obviously Dame didn’t discover Cam.

Fuck that team shit you’re talking. You think Lloyd Banks or Yayo get checks from (or got checks rather) from G-Unit clothing? Yea…when they modeled that shit maybe. 40/40 was Hov’s venture!! It wasn’t even Hov’s idea!! Them two twin niggaz that run it brought it to him and he had the capital. I hear you on the MP3 shit…but would you rock the Roc Box or an iPod? Thinking of the team is ill, but having thoughts that are actually productive are illER.

I was and still do fuck wit Dame. But that nigga popped big shit often and created a lot of animosity. Dame is a smart dude BUT those were some pretty smart people that SANK Bear Sterns, Lehman Bros, WaMu and Countrywide, etc… I hope the nigga comes back big, but don’t get at Hov for being smart about handling his business. You talk about intelligence, lets not forget the nigga ran through a purported 50 million dollars. How intelligent was this nigga not to at least pay straight cash for a vehicle? 700 dollar a month payments? Huh?

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