Cam’ron’s XXL Cover Story
XXL has gone ahead and made a portion of the April cover story with Cam available online. Here he speaks on the aftermath of his infamous phone conversation with Curtis and one of the main reasons for the rift between him and Jimmy.
XXL: After the Hot 97 call, Dipset didn’t jump to your defense. Then Jim actually started making public appearances with 50. This seemed to expose a rift between you two.
Cam: What people gotta realize is that, like, Jim’d been doing his own thing. It may seem… We may come to one person video or the other person video, but we’d kinda been not hanging out anyway. But whatever is going on behind the scenes don’t always have to be public. So if somebody was trying to diss him in public, I took offense to that, because that was my brother. But, yeah, we’d kinda been shied away from each other behind the scenes anyway.
XXL: How come?Cam: Well, I don’t know his reason, or what he thinks, but one time Jim was in my house, and we was plotting and strategizing on our marketing and promotions. And out of the blue he asks me, “You wanna have a fake beef? Between me and you.” And I was like, “Hell no!” That didn’t even make sense. I was like, “Why would we do that? That would confuse the fans.” And he was like, “Oh okay.” But for me, I took that as, you must wanna go your own route anyway, because why would you even make that suggestion? So when he made that suggestion, it wasn’t like beef or no problems, but I kinda shied away and started letting him do his own thing. Because I felt, why would you even say that if you didn’t wanna go and do your own thing?
Link: Cam’ron, Here I Am
Previously: Juelz Santana XXL Outtakes
February 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
KILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
“I don’t give a fuck what Bill Cosby said/
cause the problems gonna exsist when Bill Cosby dead/
I don’t think the revelation from the supreme beings resides or hiding out in Bill Cosby’s head”
damn…..
February 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
KILLAKILLAKILLAKILLAKILLAKILLAKILLA!!!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
KILLA!!
February 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
*daps all round*
peace people.
Banks really weant ruthlessly at Ross didnt he?
The Big Withdraw >>
February 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
twitter.com/killa1
February 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Cam basically said Dipset is done. so can the stans please move on,jeez
February 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Jimmy’s a disloyal bitchmade ass nigga.
Reminds me of Jay-Z
February 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Another case of stupid motherfuckers not knowing their role…
Jimmy lucked up on a hit and forgot his role.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Word.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
“take your daughter round my way & R.Kelly Her face”
KILLA!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
http://nahright.com/news/2006/10/30/hovis-home/
^classic post
February 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Everybody told me to be patient. but who was sleeping from couch to couch, & basement to basement
But Jay, Man/Satan tryna block My shine like Ray-Ban’s
Haterz never wanna see You bubble, they’d rather to see You struggle, that’s life, My Nigga
Alot of faker’s in the place were invited to taste
And told me right to My face, “Yeah, that’s tight, My Nigga. You reppin that Dirty South Dog, Aight My Nigga”
But they wouldn’t lift a finger to light they incense Or let the smoke linger
I ain’t a Hot Boy, but the flow’s jalapena
I’m never yappin bout how the calico’ll lean ya
Magnolia, crack soldier, creepin on a come up
My Grandmother won’t leave the fuckin Projects, I gotta raise the slum up
These nerds at record labels played Me dumb & dumber/so I showed the industry My asscrack like a plumber
Now ASCAP bangin on My door like a drummer
The fall’s bout to put a period on the summer
But back to the the point, they wanna see Me fucked up, kicks scuffed up layin back wit a joint
They said “Good things come to those that wait”, Well, I don’t know about that/And if You can’t feel this rhyme, then sorry Jack, You don’t know about rap/And if You don’t know struggle, You don’t know about Black
And I don’t give a fuck what Bill Cosby said
Cause the problem gonna exist when Bill Cosby’s dead
And I don’t think the revealation from the supreme being’s residing or hidin out in Bill Cosby’s head This just the thoughts or a soldier, and if You don’t like it, play dead or roll over, the game is so over, the rain(reign) is so over…
February 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I don’t care how many posters he put up, or mixtapes he handed out.
Jim is successful now because of one thing : Cam’s TALENT.
If that fact alone wasnt enough to stop him from going on stage with Fif, then dude is just a snake through and through.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
XXL: Did you expect the beef to unfold the way that it did?
Cam: I don’t expect nothing. I go with the momentum. I don’t sit there waiting to expect what’s going to happen. If somebody says something, I react. If I do something and wait for them to react, I’m going to react again. I don’t really sit there and expect or analyze what’s gonna happen. But I’m prepared for anything.
What’s the status of the situation now? If you and 50 walked into the same room, is there beef, or is it done?
50 can kiss my ass. That’s the basic moral of the story. I’m not one of them people, once we beefin’, I’ma be like, “Yo, I wish it didn’t happen.” It is what it is.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
KILLA!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Inspired by Basquiat, my chariots of fire…
February 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
All my niggas got M-16s kid
And all we do is watch MTV Cribs
February 13th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
@ Amp
Son that nigga hard b (n/h) I so slept on this nigga…
and that’s Dilla on the 1′s and 2′s that’s why I think I like that track.
this is actually the first track I heard from a nigga…that’s ill.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
>> classic post
word yo. i showed that post to Young Sav this summer, he’s like shit i didn’t know Nah Right has been up for that long… i was up there with hov that night
*cries with Faith*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I don’t know if he got it from a Dilla beat tape or not…
but Jay Elec had that track out a year or so before Common’s Be even came out…
February 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Jim is successful now because of one thing : Max B
*Fixed*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Eskay…no questions about Tru life…or was that off limits?
I would of asked Cam how long till the swelling went down…on the eye…
February 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Yeah 2 twice….Kissimee, Unversal Studios to see Amanda Diva and Miami in 2005
^^^
I moved from Bridgeport Ct. to FLA & never left. The weather is ill even though I don’t really care for the heat but if you like sportbikes like myself this is the place to be you can ride all year round..
February 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Jean-Michele Basquiat > _____________.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
this is actually the first track I heard from a nigga…that’s ill.
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Same here. Shit blew me away. Dude’s one of the illest ever. Only time will tell if he’ll ever live up potential.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Jim is successful now because of one thing : Max B
^^^^^
Jim Jones successful? What universe are you in?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
# AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Everybody told me to be patient. but who was sleeping from couch to couch, & basement to basement
But Jay, Man/Satan tryna block My shine like Ray-Ban’s
^
Slaps Common in the face.
Something To Hold Onto >
February 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
If Black Milk produced ole boy album …… next Illmatic
February 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Eskay…no questions about Tru life…or was that off limits?
I would of asked Cam how long till the swelling went down…on the eye…
^ ^]
Yea, that probably was off limits.
Especially due to the fact that he lied about it an Ed Lover blew his spot on the radio as an eye witness.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Jim Jones successful? What universe are you in?
^^
I live on the one where he dropped a gold album on an independent label and dropped one of the biggest singles that year.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Yeah 2 twice….Kissimee, Unversal Studios to see Amanda Diva and Miami in 2005
^^^
I moved from Bridgeport Ct. to FLA & never left. The weather is ill even though I don’t really care for the heat but if you like sportbikes like myself this is the place to be you can ride all year round..
^ New Haven, Ct stand up!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Something To Hold Onto >
^^
Word. The Jay Elec version and the Bilal original.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
All I do every day dog, blunt after blunt
Stunt after stunt, they all cunt after cunt
^^^
KILLA!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I live on the one where he dropped a gold album on an independent label and dropped one of the biggest singles that year.
^ ^
You mean the one some other dude wrote and hasn’t dropped one since that dude left??
February 13th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
PHENOMENON Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Eskay…no questions about Tru life…or was that off limits?
I would of asked Cam how long till the swelling went down…on the eye…
^ ^]
Yea, that probably was off limits.
Especially due to the fact that he lied about it an Ed Lover blew his spot on the radio as an eye witness.
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He shouldn’t have lied aboiut it, but so what? Tru Life snuck him. It’s not like they shot the fair & Cam took an L. Tru Life is a nobody. If it wasn’t for Green lantern, he’d still be living off the Beef DVD.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I doubt Tru Life punched Cam. I think he tried to tho, but there were cops or sumthn
February 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Take it in your ass? How about 30 grams ma’?
Go upstate, come back downstate, next time around me
You might get a POUNDCAKE,
Fuck it up, she understand that I might slap her
I’ll me damned if I work for some white cracker
^^^
GATTTTTT! ………KILLA!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
^ New Haven, Ct stand up!!!
^^^^
Props to Jay you’re still alive – lol.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
*understands lurkers and why they lurk*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Like that I’m shiesty
Like my shoes
Like my nikes
Know I got a girl
Like my wifey…
you heard me fam
all worthy of this dirty man
Take it up your ass
How bout 30 grams, ma?
Go upstate
Come back downstate
Next time, blow up
You might get a poundcake
She fuck it up
She understand that I might slap her
I’ll be damned if I work for some white cracker
White rattler
Pies in the back
Fiends hug you if they love it
Call it cracker jack
KILLA!!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
*reverts to my typical Nah Right afternoon post re-enactment*
*whistles to Jay-Electronica in my Ipod while waiting on the train*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Ross lost the battle imo. its over now as far as im concerned.
deeper than rap stills sounds dope tho
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Purially stick ‘em, break through your security system (KILLA!)
Stop frontin’, you was never a menace
Never a hustla, NO, we could never do business
^^^
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
At the end of the day…Cam might want to find a new figure of speech. Good drop tho
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
b-ease Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Fiends hug you if they love it
Call it cracker jack
KILLA!!!!!
^^^
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
lol @ crazy
February 13th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
b-ease Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Something To Hold Onto >
^^
Word. The Jay Elec version and the Bilal original.
================================
It’s ill how they both flipped that one. Someone needs to mash em up.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
It’s ill how they both flipped that one. Someone needs to mash em up.
^^
Definetly.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Juelz responds to Cams “sizzurp snitch” on missinfo
February 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
*scours comments for content*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
moresickaMC Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Ross lost the battle imo. its over now as far as im concerned.
deeper than rap stills sounds dope tho
^^^
Co signs that last video was fucking wack -
February 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Ross lost the battle imo. its over now as far as im concerned.
deeper than rap stills sounds dope tho
^how he lose the battle? His album still dropping, fif didnt hurt him financially, how’d he lose?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Nigas saw the Jay E lyrics & got jelly lol
Cam is my dude, but you can’t even compare the 2.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Ross lost the battle imo. its over now as far as im concerned.
deeper than rap stills sounds dope tho
^how he lose the battle? His album still dropping, fif didnt hurt him financially, how’d he lose?
^^^
Okay he didn’t lose he just made an ass of himself.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
the only losers in the rick ross fifty beef, is the niggas following.
both them niggas winning regardless.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
^how he lose the battle? His album still dropping, fif didnt hurt him financially, how’d he lose?
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His albums sounding crazy, but diss song for diss song, video for video, Curtis won. If this were High School, you’d be clowning Ross.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Nigas saw the Jay E lyrics & got jelly lol
______________
lol it’s all good fam, I’m just making an observation for later reference
February 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Ross is NOT winning, B. He may not be over, over, but he’s NOT winning this beef.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Okay he didn’t lose he just made an ass of himself.
^ I dont know… when you can make a living offa doing something you love = instant win.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I doubt Tru Life punched Cam. I think he tried to tho, but there were cops or sumthn
^ ^
Well, I just believe it on the strength that Ed Lover said he saw it [I don't see why he'd have to lie about that], Cam goes on “vacation” with a swollen eye, and he and his crew has a bad habit of getting styled on on a regular basis.
But whatever. Just make your music for your fans. there’s too much posturing that goes on in this “Rap music”.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
^how he lose the battle? His album still dropping, fif didnt hurt him financially, how’d he lose?
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His albums sounding crazy, but diss song for diss song, video for video, Curtis won. If this were High School, you’d be clowning Ross.
^^^
Any nigga that got a tat of George Washinton lost!! Check history homeboy was a slave owner – lol.
I really don’t give a fuck either way – I’ll still download the album if eskay provides the link.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
His albums sounding crazy, but diss song for diss song, video for video, Curtis won. If this were High School, you’d be clowning Ross.
^again… In order to proclaim someone the winner there has to be a loser. Ricky still winning… So who lost?
Joe public….
February 13th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
*in Ron Burgundy voice*
KILLA?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
lol@ Juelz untangling Cam’s trickery
February 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
moresickaMC Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Juelz responds to Cams “sizzurp snitch” on missinfo
^^^
Niggas aint really checkin 4 santana. and i STILL say this UK cats put the clamp on his ass (n/h)…he looked Halfway shook in those youTube vids.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I have a feeling I’d rather listen to “Deeper Than Rap” than “Before I Self Destruct”
I’m not sure though.
If you would have told me that I’d be listening to Rawse like this two years ago. . .
February 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
When i walk my uuuzzzzzziiiii weeeeiiiigggghhhsssss a toooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
When i talk my uuuzzzzzziiiii weeeeiiiigggghhhsssss a toooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
February 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Deeper than rap will more than likely be a better album in my opinion.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
If you would have told me that I’d be listening to Rawse like this two years ago. . .
^word, but so far you cant front on Magnificant and Cigar music. Them shits are gems.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Cosign Phenomenon.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
^word, but so far you cant front on Magnificant and Cigar music. Them shits are gems.
^^^
Co – signs I think I just expected better dis songs from Ross.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Notice the colors of Juelz head band and wrist…..
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Ross dropped 3 singles I liked plus a freestyle. Shit, I can’t wait to hear the album.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
MoresickaMC…tru life made cam tear up…punched him on the bridge of his nose…this actual fact. Cam didn’t want it with tru life…peep the eye jammie video he made on youtube…cam made
February 13th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I have a feeling I’d rather listen to “Deeper Than Rap” than “Before I Self Destruct”
^ co-sign
Mafia Music>>
Magnificent>>
Cigar Music>>
February 13th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Im the down south Nas, click so firm
riding with a fox as the cigar burns….wooooooooooooooooo!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
word, but so far you cant front on Magnificant and Cigar music. Them shits are gems.
^ ^
Do you know how many times I’ve repeated “Cigar Music” since last night????
Check my posts because I was letting it be known.
“I like this
MaybachCigar Music”**But that’s probably it for these “_________ Music” songs.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Ross dropped 3 singles I liked plus a freestyle. Shit, I can’t wait to hear the album.
^ and that freestyle with them tripple c niggas wasnt half bad, actually both them niggas had unique flows.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
he looked Halfway shook in those youTube vids.
^^
No halfway. Santana was clearly scared shitless.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
c/s Ross went off on Yams
February 13th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
If you would have told me that I’d be listening to Rawse like this two years ago. . .
^word, but so far you cant front on Magnificant and Cigar music. Them shits are gems.
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Why can’t you admit that Ross is losing this beef? Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
*listens to Cigar Music for the 1st time*
*thinks its pretty good*
*gets to chorus and hears crooning*
ahhh… shit… i hate that
February 13th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
unique flows = interesting = different = wtf?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Ross has good singles but obviously isn’t a battle rapper. Lloyd banks roasted rick ross. I really want to see a loso vs. banks battle
February 13th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
# cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Ross dropped 3 singles I liked plus a freestyle. Shit, I can’t wait to hear the album.
^ and that freestyle with them tripple c niggas wasnt half bad, actually both them niggas had unique flows.
^Brosign. His weed carriers definitely stepped up to the plate.
People have to understand that both rappers are gonna stay in their lines are only gonna be prominent in the type of rap that got them in the game in the first place. 50 = beef, Ross = trap talk. 50′s diversity in content probably peaked during The Massacre (slept on, imo). So he continues to just give us the shit that got him recognized. Same as Ross. But Ross is doing a better job at what he’s good at than 50 right now, IMO. Though those Curly antics are funny. But that’s not musisc.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
i been waitin for so far gone all nite nd mofo’s released it when im at work. bastards
February 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
@5:10 Juelz pulled the grenade pen….Juelz better strenghten his Young Money relationship early
February 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Why can’t you admit that Ross is losing this beef? Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
^ ^
Honestly, I could really care less about this beef.
At the end of the day I’m liking Rawse’s music over 50.
I was never even really into 50. I don’t care for that “I’m a super gangster” sh*t.
I like Rawse’s sound way better now.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I really want to see a loso vs. banks battle
^^
I’d honestly be interested in hearing Fab battle anybody. His rhyming style is tailor made for battlerap, but I wonder if he has the creativity and intellect to really craft some ether.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Why can’t you admit that Ross is losing this beef? Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
^ the truth is I couldnt give a fuck about a beef. I’m entertained by it for that minute but after the song/vid ends, i’m still checking for good music.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The nigga Elz is corny B. He has an album coming out, of course he’s gonna do interviews now. Juelz keeps trying to slander Cam & seems tight that Cam defended his position.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
since we’re all in attendence let’s aske our European Nah Righters about the outrageous HOMO EXPOSURE EXSTAVIGANZA that exploded Saturday?
Niggas is gay parades in Pink Pj’s riding funny bikes……ETHER CONCERNTRATE
February 13th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I really want to see a loso vs. banks battle
^this was heavily anticipated, but neither of them took the bait… with all the Banks swacking Fabs style talk, its a wonder it never happend. I think fifty didnt want that at the time. so the clicked up and did that song with brandy.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Niggas is gay parades in Pink Pj’s riding funny bikes……ETHER CONCERNTRATE
^ wha ya talk bout?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Why can’t you admit that Ross is losing this beef? Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
^ the truth is I couldnt give a fuck about a beef. I’m entertained by it for that minute but after the song/vid ends, i’m still checking for good music.
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You may not give a fuck about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ross is losing.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
People have to understand that both rappers are gonna stay in their lines are only gonna be prominent in the type of rap that got them in the game in the first place. 50 = beef, Ross = trap talk. 50’s diversity in content probably peaked during The Massacre (slept on, imo). So he continues to just give us the shit that got him recognized. Same as Ross. But Ross is doing a better job at what he’s good at than 50 right now, IMO. Though those Curly antics are funny. But that’s not musisc.
^
If 50 could only go hard (n/h) in the studio as he does on this beef shit.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I really want to see a loso vs. banks battle
They did a song together nthat didn’t make Banks album. But that’s a battle that I’d pay to hear. But Banks ain’t the type to start beef. Fab neither.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Well, I don’t know his reason, or what he thinks, but one time Jim was in my house, and we was plotting and strategizing on our marketing and promotions. And out of the blue he asks me, “You wanna have a fake beef? Between me and you.” And I was like, “Hell no!” That didn’t even make sense. I was like, “Why would we do that? That would confuse the fans.” And he was like, “Oh okay.”
^^^^ LMFAO, Jimmy is a phuckin clown.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
the truth is I couldnt give a fuck about a beef. I’m entertained by it for that minute but after the song/vid ends, i’m still checking for good music.
^ ^
Exactly.
At the end of the day that’s one of the reasons I don’t care for 5O.
All he’s really good for is beef. That’s all he has.
You could tell he feels unimportant because at the end of the day when you constantly have to find ridiculous reasons to get into it with people and drag it out for as long as possible, produce and animate videos, dig up personal information, fly baby mothers out to NYC and buy coats and sh*t conveniently around your release date when your songs aren’t hittin’ as hard anymore. . .
Your a gimmic.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Niggas is gay parades in Pink Pj’s riding funny bikes……ETHER CONCERNTRATE
^ wha ya talk bout?
________
ask Voltron post the youtube
February 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
b-ease…wanna start a fake beef? FUCK YOU MANG
KILLA
February 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
notice how nas won with the illmatic blurb in the upper right
who’s going to talk about cam’s debut album in 15 years?
nobody.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
LF : I read an article in Rolling Stone about Ray Kurzweill the other day.
He’s pretty much the foremost inventor in the world, a master of technology. Anyway, his whole spiel now is about “The Singularity”. Basically, by the latter part of the century, human beings will be integrated with computers to the extent that man and machine will one and we will essentially be immortal, but possibly souless. He’s a genius, and has been 100% right about most other major technological advances and there effects on society. But he’s also obessessed with his father’s death, bringing him back, and his own mortality. Bizarre. Good read tho, I recommend niggas check it out.
My bad about the length.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
KLO Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Well, I don’t know his reason, or what he thinks, but one time Jim was in my house, and we was plotting and strategizing on our marketing and promotions. And out of the blue he asks me, “You wanna have a fake beef? Between me and you.” And I was like, “Hell no!” That didn’t even make sense. I was like, “Why would we do that? That would confuse the fans.” And he was like, “Oh okay.”
^^^^ LMFAO, Jimmy is a phuckin clown.
^^^
*daps KLO*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
You may not give a fuck about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ross is losing.
^ok point taken, but there cant be a winner or loser to some one who’s disinterested, so basically this conversation isnt happining or you’re having it with the wrong person.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Fuck Big Homie (ll) and everything he stands for. I’ll hit him over the head with his own hennessey bottle if I ever see him. On my mama.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
oh and cam’s story about jim sounds wild suspect. seriously, after seeing how successful jim has been with marketing himself (even hopping on the successful pop champagne after people figured he was done), why would y’all believe jim would do something lame like propose a fake beef between him and cam, especially after dame (the older homie to both of them) already put out death of a dynasty and they both saw how badly the rocafella breakup went down (showing them that any fake beef would lead to the public picking a real loser).
cam is a better rapper than jim, but jim is no idiot. that story makes no senses. plus, what kind of reason is that to stray away from a man you’ve been friends with since childhood? you need more people, cam….
did the xxl interview delve into the rumors that cam was stealing money from the other dipset members? that’s what rumors say fueled the split….
February 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You may not give a fuck about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ross is losing.
^ ^
I don’t know one person who listens to Rawse that expected him to win or even come close to it.
Chances are if you listen to Rawse you don’t listen to him for that.
I started listening to Rawse because he makes that ryder music. Idk, I just get this vibe from his music. [ll] Especially in the whip.
His rhymes are getting a little better but I don’t necessarily listen to him for the rhymes which is rare for me because I usually have to hear rhymes to listen to someone.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
b-ease link the article fam.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I think Banks is at his prime, too bad skill isnt that important these days
February 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
notice how nas won with the illmatic blurb in the upper right
^^
He didnt win.
He lost when they didnt do one for the 10th anniversary like Reasonable Doubt. They’re just looking for page filler now.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
# Bananas the Ape Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Niggas is gay parades in Pink Pj’s riding funny bikes……ETHER CONCERNTRATE
^ wha ya talk bout?
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ask Voltron post the youtube
^
Bananas: youtube.com/watch?v=5IYkDZ1pShE
February 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
You may not give a fuck about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ross is losing.
^ok point taken, but there cant be a winner or loser to some one who’s disinterested, so basically this conversation isnt happining or you’re having it with the wrong person.
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If you’re so disinterested, why keep saying Ross isn’t losing?
Just don’t comment about it, cause it sounds like you’re a Ross fan who can’t accept the dude taking an L.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
so what did cam say on here? link?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
His rhymes are getting a little better but I don’t necessarily listen to him for the rhymes which is rare for me because I usually have to hear rhymes to listen to someone.
^ Ross is clever the why he puts his lines together. On some Bigge shit almost. Not comparing the two, but the cleverness in their flows.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
But Banks ain’t the type to start beef*
*without being told by 50.
correction
& b-ease. You got a link for that cyborg shit?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
@ cold and seth
I read it in the actual magazine, just checked the site, and they don’t have the article up. You should def flip thru it if you happen to see the magazine on the stands.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
cam is a better rapper than jim, but jim is no idiot. that story makes no senses. plus, what kind of reason is that to stray away from a man you’ve been friends with since childhood? you need more people, cam….
did the xxl interview delve into the rumors that cam was stealing money from the other dipset members? that’s what rumors say fueled the split….
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I don’t give a fuck how long I’ve been friends with a nigga, once you show you’re disloyal, it’s a wrap.
And Cam didn’t “steal” anything from them. They had deals where Cam got a percentage of their earnings, but he’s the boss & that’s not a crazy notion. Juelz was mad he wouldn’t renegotiate & Cam prolly didn’t because he saw Juelz had sided with Jim. Fuck em.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
If you’re so disinterested, why keep saying Ross isn’t losing?
Just don’t comment about it, cause it sounds like you’re a Ross fan who can’t accept the dude taking an L.
^ not a Ross fan like that but lately the beef has atleast allowed me to give him a listen. I wasnt saying he’s not losing as much as I was asking you why and what constitutes to you saying he took the L. I clearly asked “how’d he lose”. I didnt say he didnt lose as you put it.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
# b-ease Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
notice how nas won with the illmatic blurb in the upper right
^^
He didnt win.
He lost when they didnt do one for the 10th anniversary like Reasonable Doubt. They’re just looking for page filler now.
^^
oh please RD will never b a more important album than Illmatic. smh y Jay stans always tryna discredit Nas?
February 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
If you’re so disinterested, why keep saying Ross isn’t losing?
Just don’t comment about it, cause it sounds like you’re a Ross fan who can’t accept the dude taking an L.
^ ^
When its all said and done I really don’t see what “L’s” Ross is taking.
I see Ross’ singles getting more spins than 5O.
I see Ross being liked more than 5O.
I see Ross getting more club play than 5O.
5O seems to weigh his success on that.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Yo, that spirit dude is giving jimmy way too much credit.
What makes you believe him over cam. They probably both lying.
KILLA.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Fuck Big Homie (ll) and everything he stands for. I’ll hit him over the head with his own hennessey bottle if I ever see him. On my mama.
* dies*
February 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
One mo gin…
AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Why can’t you admit that Ross is losing this beef? Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
^ the truth is I couldnt give a fuck about a beef. I’m entertained by it for that minute but after the song/vid ends, i’m still checking for good music.
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You may not give a fuck about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ross is losing.
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Ross hasn’t made anything comparable to what Fif & G-Unit have put out. That’s why he’s losing the “beef”.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I read it in the actual magazine, just checked the site, and they don’t have the article up. You should def flip thru it if you happen to see the magazine on the stands.
no doubt
February 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
oh please RD will never b a more important album than Illmatic. smh y Jay stans always tryna discredit Nas?
^^
One, I didnt say RD was more important. I said Nas lost because they didnt do a 10th anniversary tribute like they did for RD. Which, if Illmatic is more important like YOU say, is a loss.
Not a Jay stan, but it is what it is.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Ross hasn’t made anything comparable to what Fif & G-Unit have put out. That’s why he’s losing the “beef”.
^ok it all makes sense now. You’re a G-unit stan. lol.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
When its all said and done I really don’t see what “L’s” Ross is taking.
I see Ross’ singles getting more spins than 5O.
I see Ross being liked more than 5O.
I see Ross getting more club play than 5O.
5O seems to weigh his success on that.
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Don’t let your hate for Fif cloud your vision. See, that’s the shit I hate about the blogs & internet rap fans. Be honest. I don’t stan any of these niggas & I don’t hate any of em either. I judge them on the day to day. Rick Ross has been dragged throught he mud & you can’t see the L’s he’s taken?
smh
February 13th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
bottom line juelz hopped on stage with 50. cam didn’t ask you to stop rapping but i think sellin out the dude who brought you in the game to be a pawn for 50 is crossing the line. oh and if sam rothstein can take a percocet for his ulcer than so can cam.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
KILLA made Jimmy & Juelz.
If it wasn’t for his career, those two would probably both be broke as fuck. They should be thankin Cam that XXL even cares. Thats bullshit either way. Even if Cam was takin money off the top. He made them. they should appreciate it.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
One, I didnt say RD was more important. I said Nas lost because they didnt do a 10th anniversary tribute like they did for RD. Which, if Illmatic is more important like YOU say, is a loss.
Not a Jay stan, but it is what it is.
^ this “lost” word is being thrown around way too losely. From now on you can’t say someone else is losing until you yourself are winning. Thats the rule.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Suprise of the year: i was a major G-Unit Soldier until 2006. Probably as much as i stan Dante now.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
*daps b-ease*
thanks, I’ll look for that mag.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
From now on you can’t say someone else is losing until you yourself are winning. Thats the rule.
^^
No dice. Especially in that case considering Nas and Jay’s history. Also, the “loss” was in response to someone saying he “won”, which is an epic stretch.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
That was one of the worse paragraphs that I seen in a long time.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Niggas is going in on the comments today i see
February 13th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
KILLAAAAAAA
February 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Everybody loses in a beef, especially the cow…
February 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
If Ross outsells 50 in the end, then 50 lost.
Thats the whole reason why they are beefin. for hype.
No matter what 50 does. I think he is winning thus far, but if his end goal is not achieved (more record sales) then he lost.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Don’t let your hate for Fif cloud your vision. See, that’s the shit I hate about the blogs & internet rap fans. Be honest. I don’t stan any of these niggas & I don’t hate any of em either. I judge them on the day to day. Rick Ross has been dragged throught he mud & you can’t see the L’s he’s taken?
smh
^ ok, dragged through the mud how, by Tia??? I know you not talking musically. Fact the stratergy fif used with ricks baby momma was hillarity. Also Fact, niggas know how birds get down, so the lasting effects of that ether is diluted by “its expected factor”. We all know how skanks get down, is it really suprising. Plus that ether is easily countered by Ross having a dime piece on his arm.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Fuck the twin towers dog, we on top of the Eiffel
Like live Pisa Pisa, eating a piece of pizza
You cant be were I be dog, you need a visa
Common chief of reefer
Please believe it, I will squeeze and ya
All bullets they will heat and seek ya
February 13th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Bananas the Ape Says:
February 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I saw one episode of True Life I am on HGH and they had this model nigga on there and I was fucking jealous how beautiful that nigga looked.
_______
^^^AYOOOO
Man I’m out I’ll catch yall on M-F when the undercover homos bounce
February 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Rap beef isn’t the same anymore..
Youtube fuckery > Diss records
February 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Ross hasn’t made anything comparable to what Fif & G-Unit have put out. That’s why he’s losing the “beef”.
^ ^
Eventually this beef is going to fade out and 5O is going to find someone else to promote himself with. [Someone that people have moved on from 5O with to listen to and who has hot singles] [C] Fat Joesph, Rawse, Wayne, and Khaled.
But this is what it’s all about. It’s all publicity stunttin’ and trying to eliminate competition.
5O may end up losing if he can’t hurt Rawse’s sales and out shine him in singles.
Because that’s what this is all about in the first place. . .
As usual with 5O.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
*lurks*
February 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
[Someone that people have moved on from 5O with to listen to and who has hot singles] [C] Fat Joesph, Rawse, Wayne, and Khaled
^^
Exactly. If it wasn’t Ross, it wouldve been Plies.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Don’t let your hate for Fif cloud your vision. See, that’s the shit I hate about the blogs & internet rap fans. Be honest. I don’t stan any of these niggas & I don’t hate any of em either. I judge them on the day to day. Rick Ross has been dragged throught he mud & you can’t see the L’s he’s taken?
smh
^ ok, dragged through the mud how, by Tia??? I know you not talking musically.
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Again, for the 3rd time…
Not one of his diss tracks were hot. Not one.
That’s how you judge a rap battle, by the diss records that emerge from it.
Banks just kilt the fat nigga & y’all still talking bout…
“When its all said and done I really don’t see what “L’s” Ross is taking.”
February 13th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
# Digital Scales Says:
Rap beef isn’t the same anymore..
Youtube fuckery > Diss records
^^
Depends on the rappers. Like if CH & Rhymefest battle, the winner will be decided by their lines since they both care about lyrics.
but with Ross & 50 the bottom line will be sales since that is what they are both interested in.
I think 50′s videos are funny, but the battle seems to be about sales in the end. So if 50 doesn’t ruin ross’s sales then he loses. He is doing good, but I’m unsure it will be enough.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
amp listen to cigar music again.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Cats really hate Fif that much?
Fuck record sales, this is a rap battle & Ross is on the losing end. Point blank. The thing 50 & ‘Ye got into was about sales…not this.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
cOLD Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
amp listen to cigar music again.
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Great song…not a diss record.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I think arguing an opinion is fucking corny
February 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Digital Scales Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I think arguing an opinion is fucking corny
^isn’t that really what happens around here…ALL DAY LONG? lol
February 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I think arguing an opinion is fucking corny
^ I agree, fuck your opinion.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
*smashes babydoll*
February 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/juelz-responds-to-camrons-sizzurp-allegations/#comments
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“Cam fell back for 3 years,what did people expect us to do? fall back too?”
getting on stage with Curtis was foul but outside of that Jim and Juelz were as loyal anyone who could have been
February 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
thats that kush, word.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Don’t let your hate for Fif cloud your vision. See, that’s the shit I hate about the blogs & internet rap fans. Be honest. I don’t stan any of these niggas & I don’t hate any of em either. I judge them on the day to day. Rick Ross has been dragged throught he mud & you can’t see the L’s he’s taken?
^ ^
I don’t hate 5O. I don’t know him. I just have no interest in his antics. It’s just not my thing.
I don’t see the loss because I’m not the type of person who’s opinion would be swayed by this foolishness. Especially when I didn’t expect Ross to win.
5O has done this before. so it’s obvious that his end goal is to hurt Rawse’s popularity, his sales, and the overall public opinion about him.
But how would that change my opinion when I don’t put stock in these pseudo rap beefs.
As long as Rawse makes good music there is no real loss for him because that is the sole reason he has been winning in the music business.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
# BabyDoll Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Digital Scales Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I think arguing an opinion is fucking corny
^isn’t that really what happens around here…ALL DAY LONG? lol
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Yeah but niggas but on different levels….These 09 niggas aint playing fair, you gotta explain everything
February 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Ladies…if you are going to wear something tight please do not wear granny panties..shits discusting b
February 13th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
# Big Homie Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Ladies…if you are going to wear something tight please do not wear granny panties..shits discusting b
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Shit a nigga like me like some granny panties, big gray sweat panties
February 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Victory Says:
February 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
# Victory Says:
February 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Double Repeat: Please check the dudes ISP! I have never, i repeat NEVER, had any homosexual thoughts in my mind before!!! plus lil wanyes ass aint even that flat!!
^
I DID NOT POST THAT.
ESKAY, NATION, DRE – COME ON!
MAKE A RULING!!!
I DIDNT EVEN POST THAT!
February 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
fact is Ross called Fif out first, and u know Fif was gonna respond. so dont twist it like 50 started this “beef”
February 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Ross’ 3 joint’s >>>
Daps cOLD & b-ease
February 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
cam is exposing this fake niggas!!
KILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
fact is Ross called Fif out first, and u know Fif was gonna respond. so dont twist it like 50 started this “beef”
^ ^
Lol, I always wondered what Rawse was thinking about when he did that.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
moresickaMC Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
fact is Ross called Fif out first, and u know Fif was gonna respond. so dont twist it like 50 started this “beef”
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Werd. If you’re so high & mighty that these “rap beefs” don’t phase you, why comment on it. Everything you guys are saying infers that you don’t like 5o & you’re fucking with Ross. There’s a bias there. I don’t like anyone of these cats over the other. Even if you discount all the stuff outside of the music, Ross still hasn’t matched Fif’s disses. Will Ross make a better album? Prolly. But I’m not judging their albums cause their not out yet.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Trade: Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks got dealt from Miami to Toronto in exchange for Jamario Moon and Jermaine O’Neal
February 13th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Bananas stop being a prick.
U know very well that wasn’t me, which is why the original gay comments written by the guy pretending to be were deleted by esk/naysh.
and thats all i’ve got to say.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Pat Rileys a dickhead traded Marion 17 million expiring contract for Jermaine O’Neal dead knees pay him 23 million next year and Jamario Moon??
February 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
rex hussla Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Another case of stupid motherfuckers not knowing their role…
Jimmy lucked up on a hit and forgot his role.
^^^^^
“you never know who your real friends are till you BOTH got money” – hov
and *shout out* to everybody posting clips from cams comeback mixtape when he first sighned to the roc…im bout to go download that again for datpiff.com…KILLLA!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
notice how nas won with the illmatic blurb in the upper right
^^
He didnt win.
He lost when they didnt do one for the 10th anniversary like Reasonable Doubt. They’re just looking for page filler now.
^^ maybe you forgot the long running cam v. nas beef? my point was, never in your life will you see nas on the cover of a magazine with a caption about a record cam released 15 years ago, because none of his albums will have the staying power of illmatic. the funny thing is, the beef started over nas dissing the quality of come home with me, which i’ve never heard anyone champion as a classic so nas was right and it spiraled into years of rambling nonsense about knocking kufis off (threats which never actualized, even though nas generally rolls dolo and ain’t no suge knight). SMH.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
cam is a better rapper than jim, but jim is no idiot. that story makes no senses. plus, what kind of reason is that to stray away from a man you’ve been friends with since childhood? you need more people, cam….
did the xxl interview delve into the rumors that cam was stealing money from the other dipset members? that’s what rumors say fueled the split….
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I don’t give a fuck how long I’ve been friends with a nigga, once you show you’re disloyal, it’s a wrap.
^ ^ the point
And Cam didn’t “steal” anything from them. They had deals where Cam got a percentage of their earnings, but he’s the boss & that’s not a crazy notion. Juelz was mad he wouldn’t renegotiate & Cam prolly didn’t because he saw Juelz had sided with Jim. Fuck em.
^ ^ one, the rumors ARE about actual stealing, specifically show money (i can’t prove that, but that’s what i’ve heard). as for the deals, at the time those deals were signed, who had more industry experience: cam or juelz? come on yo. if it’s all about family, why would cam sign his little homie to a fucked up deal?
juelz probably wanted to renegotiate once he saw that cam made more off his publishing than he did.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
^ ^ all that shit is hearsay and gossip though, i ain’t seen none of the contracts with my own eyes to verify, so whatever…but that’s what’s in the air….
February 13th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
and the real moment dipset fell apart was when jim was getting his ass whipped and cam ran for the fences
you can’t abandon your man in a scrap like that…totally unforgivable…