Nah I heard enough from him to say he’s whack…..that’s just me though….y’all cats can listen to him but nah he’s whack to me…..the beat with him and Trey Songz was fire though…..(none)
^He didn’t even listen to the song, but I get slandered (n/h) for my judgement, or lack of attempting to give a new artist a try (n/h). I didn’t wanna admit how dope scarface was back in the G, but c’mon, to say he’s wack? scarface is a living legend
^^^
You’re right. My reference to professional was meant to imply that L never reached the type of sales/radio play/mainstream familiarity (not to say those qualities make them better) of Big/Jay i.e the big league.
the beat with him and Trey Songz was fire though…..(none)
^ I respect your opinion, but if that right there is the ONLY good thing you can come up with Scarface, you should go listen to some of his earlier stuff. I’m just saying because when I think of GOAT of the south I think of Scarface and Outkast so it surprises me that someone would say he is straight up wack.
>>But those last verses that He dropped, are not they some of best verses you ever heard?
no. ever?! no. stop it.
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Okay, well let’s say in recent contemporary times….In like the last 5 or six years…
I remember when He dropped them Joints niggas at xxl dedicated whole posts to em….Other blog sites was talking about those joints he dropped…
You don’t want to admit it but other blog sites and XXL were treating those verses like an event…But even without those recent remix verses…He has dropped some hot material…
If you feel like he is just ok…that’s fine…we all have our likes and dislikes…music is all subjective….But it seems to me like he is railroaded because he has a southern accent and never rapped like he was from new york…Which scarface sounds like he is from the east coast and east coast niggas put scarface on a pedastal (rightfully so)…But they try to always to determine who is the southern goat, because a rapper raps in the eyes of what they like.
^
I just don’t like HIS tracks and now I’m bias?…….Right…..okay whatever you say….like I said Joe…..if you like his music then that’s good but I don’t like it…..that’s just me….and I actully listened to his tracks before I said he was whack….
That album has SO many filler joints……Let’s be real the only reason cats hyped it up was because that nigga died…
^^
No, the only reason people called All Eyez on Me a classic is because Tupac died. I think you’re getting the two mixed up.
Life After Death is one of the five best hiphop albums of all time.
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NIggas stay calling Tupac AND biggie goats because they both died…..
I never said Biggie wasn’t A goat, I just said he was not THE goat…..A classic means NO fillers none….Life after death had more than 4 filler joints….
Biggie is one of the greats just as tupac…They had different styles…Tupac was more poetic and emotional and influential….Biggie…technically sound… flow was murderous..displayed versatility….many styles mastered
having arguments on what music bumps in the street most > wearin capris in the murder capital of the east coast
*SMH*
I guess this is a shot at me, eh, it’s the truth, majority of NY & other wanna be up north niggas speak there opinion like it’s god sent, ya’ll niggas are funny, looking at how the games been for the last, 9+ years ya’ll opinion only matters in new york, not nowhere else. Besides Jay-Z & 50 when he had his run, ya’ll been at the bottom of the todem pole when it came to popularity elsewhere besides NY, I can name a whole slavery list of rappers that’s popular on nah right (& I like also n/h) that never gets any bump on the street, in the same breath name the same length list of rappers that never get a post on nah right that the streets that surround me love. Only niggas that like most of ya’ll *ahem*up north*ahem* music is niggas that wanna be from up there. Me I have a open mind & like everything I think is hot, no matter where there from, but just because ya’ll started the culture don’t mean there currently giving birth to the best music
>>If you feel like he is just ok…that’s fine…we all have our likes and dislikes…music is all subjective….But it seems to me like he is railroaded because he has a southern accent and never rapped like he was from new york…
I never said he was just ok. he’s def one of the southern GOATs. you’re not paying attention. accent and region have nothing to do with it. i have nothing against Andre, like I said, it’s the dickriding.
and I posted all of those Dre verses before most other sites so don’t try to play me.
Synthesizer = Aquemini
Chinese Arithmetic = Paid in Full
Let’s Get Crazy = Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Spot Rusherz = Cuban Linx
Black Shampoo = Wu Tang Forever
Nas is Coming = It was Written
I could do this all day…my point is that “no filler songs at all” on classic albums, is bullshit.
Reasonable Doubt is pretty filler free, I’ll give you that. Doesnt make it better than Life After Death tho.
having arguments on what music bumps in the street most > wearin capris in the murder capital of the east coast
*SMH*
I guess this is a shot at me, eh, it’s the truth, majority of NY & other wanna be up north niggas speak there opinion like it’s god sent, ya’ll niggas are funny, looking at how the games been for the last, 9+ years ya’ll opinion only matters in new york, not nowhere else. Besides Jay-Z & 50 when he had his run, ya’ll been at the bottom of the todem pole when it came to popularity elsewhere besides NY, I can name a whole slavery list of rappers that’s popular on nah right (& I like also n/h) that never gets any bump on the street, in the same breath name the same length list of rappers that never get a post on nah right that the streets that surround me love. Only niggas that like most of ya’ll *ahem*up north*ahem* music is niggas that wanna be from up there. Me I have a open mind & like everything I think is hot, no matter where there from, but just because ya’ll started the culture don’t mean there currently giving birth to the best music
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Truth.Nigga
So true….that’s why I was on my Jud Buechler rants…..New york is still mad (rightfully so)…that their baby (hip-hop)…has flew away from their nest…They feel that they dictate what should and shouldn’t go on in hip-hop music….Just face facts….Cities come and go in popularity….
Let’s look back in History…..The birth place of 90 percent of black music is in the south…..and hip-hop’s roots are from the south….Niggas was be-bopping and shoody do wopping and rapping in the south…before rap even existed…..
r&b, jazz, blues, gospel, negro spirituals….ALL black music all started from the south….Only hip-hop was created in the North…..
Southern music is more chant based….such reflects the times back then such as negro spirtuals….
Northern music will always be more intellectual written….Look at the people who migrated to the north…People went to the north to get a better life….There is a reason why the music is more lyric based….
the south has always been about dancing….which a lot of you up north niggas can’t do…it’s music is more light and fun while up north music is more serious in nature.
RD has absolutely no fillers and Life After Death has more then 4 fillers…
Period whether ease wants to accept it or not…
^^
And thats fine, but if like I wrote in my last post, that is not a definitive measure to determine which one’s better. I would argue that the only filler on Life After Death is “Nasty Boy” but even that’s classic because of the “shit” skit. Even if I concede 4 (which I’m not), best songs on Life After Death>>>best songs on Reasonable Doubt
I’m sick of women having all kinds of ridiculous legal bias leverage over men. How in the world is it justified that she get a 5O million dollar come up?
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
RD has absolutely no fillers and Life After Death has more then 4 fillers…
Period whether ease wants to accept it or not…
^^
And thats fine, but if like I wrote in my last post, that is not a definitive measure to determine which one’s better. I would argue that the only filler on Life After Death is “Nasty Boy” but even that’s classic because of the “shit” skit. Even if I concede 4 (which I’m not), best songs on Life After Death>>>best songs on Reasonable Doubt
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you need to stop chasing ghosts….can’t you just concede that you like Life after death better than reasonable doubt?….
I can admit that albums that are considered “great” are not my particular favorite albums, I like the dynasty more than the blueprint….but I know that blueprint is better though…..
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
>>Shaniqua countersues Curtis for $50 Million
I’m sick of women having all kinds of ridiculous legal bias leverage over men. How in the world is it justified that she get a 5O million dollar come up?
^why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
# Joe 88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate?
^
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
^^^
Yeah, when you factor the whole entity that Jay has become, there’s no question who’s the GOAT. We’re debating more on an album by album basis focusing more specifically on just the music rather than what the music acheived for the artist.
why is this even a debate
^^^^
Oh shit, me and joe agree
^ Cosign. I use to have a hard time (pause) debating these two albums, but over the years I have listened to Reasonable Doubt more than I do any Biggie album. I never skip a track on Reasonable Doubt as oppose to Biggie’s albums.
why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
@ Joe, first it was hard to follow dude, but his absence in The game gave me more time to marinate on his verses. Either that or being blown outta my brain one day. lol
July 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
^ ^ ^
True. But 5O mill? For what?!
^EXACTLY! He started it so now she is just flipping it back on him…hence the term countersuit…
I can admit that albums that are considered “great” are not my particular favorite albums, I like the dynasty more than the blueprint….but I know that blueprint is better though…..
^^^
I’m a reasonable nigga. And to use your example, I think It Was Written is > but I know that’s not really the case. But that’s not what I’m doing with Life After Death. It really IS better than RD.
RD is timeless, while albums like LAD & illmatic sound dated. That’s the biggest difference in that whole debate.
LAD & illmatic remids you of what you was doing around that time, but don’t relate to your current status, while reasonable doubt puts you in a place where his lyrics relate to current events in your life
c’mon, white collar niggas on there A game feel like no one can knock there hustle, it’s always politics as usual, only presidents represent them.
*waits for niggas to get mad*
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Truth.Nigga.edu
Joe budden is just a surface level lyricist….. Meaning he has lyrics and is able to be lyrical in meaning….but they stop at just that….Nothing very deep or insightful…that causes you to think on an existenstial level as the likes of Andre 3000 or Nas….
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
^ ^ ^
I agree. If you flip the rookie card and look at all of the stats, Jays the G.O.A.T. Going just by music Jay is up there but probably not the G.O.A.T., but definitely up there.
eskay Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
>>That’s like me saying…tupac is a western Goat….
he is. come on you know niggas regionalize.
^So what about me & billz & the rest of the niggas from b-more with no one to represent there struggle? It’s no, “i’ma ride with the home team” for us, we just gotta choose what was given to us.
>>>let’s be serious.
if you’re not from NY, you lay awake at night whispering “why? why couldn’t I have been born there lord?”
NY is your hometown’s daddy
^I hate New York, seriously, I went up there, I was dying to come back home, the traffic sucks, no hospitality at all, the airs too thick, & people act like it’s a blessing to be from there. That’s why alot of NY niggas get killed coming down here tryna hustle, there too slick for themselfs & end up getting boxed up, but that’s another topic.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
ITS HOVA, DA GOD!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Nah I heard enough from him to say he’s whack…..that’s just me though….y’all cats can listen to him but nah he’s whack to me…..the beat with him and Trey Songz was fire though…..(none)
^He didn’t even listen to the song, but I get slandered (n/h) for my judgement, or lack of attempting to give a new artist a try (n/h). I didn’t wanna admit how dope scarface was back in the G, but c’mon, to say he’s wack? scarface is a living legend
The south bias is beyond crazy
July 10th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
wesh Pareece!!!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Jay >
July 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
They should’ve never gave majority of you up north niggas computers
July 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487W_vBeGFQ
WHOA!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
L dropped an album while he was alive.
^^^
You’re right. My reference to professional was meant to imply that L never reached the type of sales/radio play/mainstream familiarity (not to say those qualities make them better) of Big/Jay i.e the big league.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
having arguments on what music bumps in the street most > wearin capris in the murder capital of the east coast
July 10th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Bredahs are crazy chattin about Life After Death aint classic
I cant believe what I’m seeing
July 10th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96sFW-3vGv4
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
if L never died.. jay wouldn’t be where he is..
if Pun never died… 50 wouldn’t be where he is…
if jim jones never died… freeky zeeky wouldn’t be where he is
July 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFIR5MgsG70
^^
BONG!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
@ Rigz
Life after Death is a Classic but i dont agree with anything Ease is saying about it….
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ci_iY3UPk
^^^
POW!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
shit man jigga is here in Germany @saturday and I ain’t got the possibility to see him perform
that sucks
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
the beat with him and Trey Songz was fire though…..(none)
^ I respect your opinion, but if that right there is the ONLY good thing you can come up with Scarface, you should go listen to some of his earlier stuff. I’m just saying because when I think of GOAT of the south I think of Scarface and Outkast so it surprises me that someone would say he is straight up wack.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
b-ease = My arch nemesis
*Clutches Tape Dispenser*
^^
lol
July 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
if jim jones never died… freeky zeeky wouldn’t be where he is
^^^^
*Face Falls Off*
July 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QDOSTPHLlc
^^^
CLASSIC!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgRJXOqlvBA
^^^
$$$$$$$$$
July 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
>>They should’ve never gave majority of you up north niggas computers
The majority of you south ni**as wouldn’t know what to do with a computer.
[J/K]
July 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
# eskay Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
>>But those last verses that He dropped, are not they some of best verses you ever heard?
no. ever?! no. stop it.
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Okay, well let’s say in recent contemporary times….In like the last 5 or six years…
I remember when He dropped them Joints niggas at xxl dedicated whole posts to em….Other blog sites was talking about those joints he dropped…
You don’t want to admit it but other blog sites and XXL were treating those verses like an event…But even without those recent remix verses…He has dropped some hot material…
If you feel like he is just ok…that’s fine…we all have our likes and dislikes…music is all subjective….But it seems to me like he is railroaded because he has a southern accent and never rapped like he was from new york…Which scarface sounds like he is from the east coast and east coast niggas put scarface on a pedastal (rightfully so)…But they try to always to determine who is the southern goat, because a rapper raps in the eyes of what they like.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvVZ0m3e_Rg
^^^
STREETS!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
The south bias is beyond crazy
^
I just don’t like HIS tracks and now I’m bias?…….Right…..okay whatever you say….like I said Joe…..if you like his music then that’s good but I don’t like it…..that’s just me….and I actully listened to his tracks before I said he was whack….
July 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fESiFwMtNdU
^^^
Bitch??
July 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
# b-ease Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
That album has SO many filler joints……Let’s be real the only reason cats hyped it up was because that nigga died…
^^
No, the only reason people called All Eyez on Me a classic is because Tupac died. I think you’re getting the two mixed up.
Life After Death is one of the five best hiphop albums of all time.
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NIggas stay calling Tupac AND biggie goats because they both died…..
I never said Biggie wasn’t A goat, I just said he was not THE goat…..A classic means NO fillers none….Life after death had more than 4 filler joints….
Biggie is one of the greats just as tupac…They had different styles…Tupac was more poetic and emotional and influential….Biggie…technically sound… flow was murderous..displayed versatility….many styles mastered
July 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JenPBMkUmNM
^^^
BLOODKLOT!
July 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
# Snort_snortCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvVZ0m3e_Rg
^^^
STREETS!
^I copped from TD&H yesterday
July 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86YSKrCM0c
^^^
WHO??
July 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
and ironically… i didnt see jay n dame there
July 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Can someone point to me 1 filler song on reasonable doubt?
July 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
AND can someone HONESTLY tell me that every single track on Life after Death is non skippable?
July 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb1IZYS0gjI
^^^
^^
^
^^
^^^
^^
^
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
July 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
How the hell does Mystical not end up ever mentioned on these lists?
July 10th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
nigger>jigger
July 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
# Boosie Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Can someone point to me 1 filler song on reasonable doubt?
^
http://www.tinyurl.com/yvobsj
July 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
you niggas get no pussy
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
having arguments on what music bumps in the street most > wearin capris in the murder capital of the east coast
*SMH*
I guess this is a shot at me, eh, it’s the truth, majority of NY & other wanna be up north niggas speak there opinion like it’s god sent, ya’ll niggas are funny, looking at how the games been for the last, 9+ years ya’ll opinion only matters in new york, not nowhere else. Besides Jay-Z & 50 when he had his run, ya’ll been at the bottom of the todem pole when it came to popularity elsewhere besides NY, I can name a whole slavery list of rappers that’s popular on nah right (& I like also n/h) that never gets any bump on the street, in the same breath name the same length list of rappers that never get a post on nah right that the streets that surround me love. Only niggas that like most of ya’ll *ahem*up north*ahem* music is niggas that wanna be from up there. Me I have a open mind & like everything I think is hot, no matter where there from, but just because ya’ll started the culture don’t mean there currently giving birth to the best music
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
b-ease = My arch nemesis
*Clutches Tape Dispenser*
^ ^ ^
So you were the guy who posted that Craig’s List ad!!
**If anyone would even remember that reference.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopwiGItevI
^^^
^^
^
OK?
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
>>If you feel like he is just ok…that’s fine…we all have our likes and dislikes…music is all subjective….But it seems to me like he is railroaded because he has a southern accent and never rapped like he was from new york…
I never said he was just ok. he’s def one of the southern GOATs. you’re not paying attention. accent and region have nothing to do with it. i have nothing against Andre, like I said, it’s the dickriding.
and I posted all of those Dre verses before most other sites so don’t try to play me.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
# sean coonery Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
you niggas get no pussy
^
http://www.tinyurl.com/yvobsj tambien
July 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
and apparently some niggas are getting a lot of dick
July 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
# Snort_snortCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopwiGItevI
^^^
^^
^
OK?
^^
EPIC FAIL
July 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
… NaS > JayZ …
… JayE > Phonte > Lil Wayne > Scarface > Chamillionaire >>>etc>> Andrea 3000 …
… Blu > Lupe …
… Biggie > Pac …
… Cam’ron > LLCool J …
… MCLyte > LilKim or Foxy …
… Rah Digga > Remy Ma …
… Papoose > Saigon …
… Uncle Murda > Maino …
… Black Milk > kanye West …
… BaduElectronica >CamelKnowles …
… Mike D’Antoni > Barack OBamma …
… Yankees > Mets …
July 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
sean coonery Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
you niggas get no pussy
^^^
LMAO. Applaud HOOTS.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
The majority of you south ni**as wouldn’t know what to do with a computer.
^I’m not from the south
July 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@ Boosie
RD has absolutely no fillers and Life After Death has more then 4 fillers…
Period whether ease wants to accept it or not…
July 10th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
>>BaduElectronica >CamelKnowles …
lol
July 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Rest of the world > Jay Electronica
July 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
WTF is the Buttylab (c) this clip
July 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Boosie Says:
…..A classic means NO fillers none….
^^
Filler songs on classic albums part 1 :
Synthesizer = Aquemini
Chinese Arithmetic = Paid in Full
Let’s Get Crazy = Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Spot Rusherz = Cuban Linx
Black Shampoo = Wu Tang Forever
Nas is Coming = It was Written
I could do this all day…my point is that “no filler songs at all” on classic albums, is bullshit.
Reasonable Doubt is pretty filler free, I’ll give you that. Doesnt make it better than Life After Death tho.
July 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
LOL….ok
July 10th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Correction LAD has about 4 fillers not more than 4
July 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I’m so glad i’m not from NY. Being from a city with no spokesman for hip hop goes a long way. no bias
*Turns up scarface “never”*
July 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JenPBMkUmNM
^ WOOO (c) Crazy
July 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
you niggas get no pussy
^damn just caught a flashback of me shifting wifey’s spine last night. lol
July 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
>>I’m not from the south
Didn’t say you were but, okay.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
# Joe 88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
having arguments on what music bumps in the street most > wearin capris in the murder capital of the east coast
*SMH*
I guess this is a shot at me, eh, it’s the truth, majority of NY & other wanna be up north niggas speak there opinion like it’s god sent, ya’ll niggas are funny, looking at how the games been for the last, 9+ years ya’ll opinion only matters in new york, not nowhere else. Besides Jay-Z & 50 when he had his run, ya’ll been at the bottom of the todem pole when it came to popularity elsewhere besides NY, I can name a whole slavery list of rappers that’s popular on nah right (& I like also n/h) that never gets any bump on the street, in the same breath name the same length list of rappers that never get a post on nah right that the streets that surround me love. Only niggas that like most of ya’ll *ahem*up north*ahem* music is niggas that wanna be from up there. Me I have a open mind & like everything I think is hot, no matter where there from, but just because ya’ll started the culture don’t mean there currently giving birth to the best music
___________________________________________________________
Truth.Nigga
So true….that’s why I was on my Jud Buechler rants…..New york is still mad (rightfully so)…that their baby (hip-hop)…has flew away from their nest…They feel that they dictate what should and shouldn’t go on in hip-hop music….Just face facts….Cities come and go in popularity….
Let’s look back in History…..The birth place of 90 percent of black music is in the south…..and hip-hop’s roots are from the south….Niggas was be-bopping and shoody do wopping and rapping in the south…before rap even existed…..
r&b, jazz, blues, gospel, negro spirituals….ALL black music all started from the south….Only hip-hop was created in the North…..
Southern music is more chant based….such reflects the times back then such as negro spirtuals….
Northern music will always be more intellectual written….Look at the people who migrated to the north…People went to the north to get a better life….There is a reason why the music is more lyric based….
the south has always been about dancing….which a lot of you up north niggas can’t do…it’s music is more light and fun while up north music is more serious in nature.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Nas is Coming = It was Written
^^^
False
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate?
July 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@ Boosie
RD has absolutely no fillers and Life After Death has more then 4 fillers…
Period whether ease wants to accept it or not…
^^
And thats fine, but if like I wrote in my last post, that is not a definitive measure to determine which one’s better. I would argue that the only filler on Life After Death is “Nasty Boy” but even that’s classic because of the “shit” skit. Even if I concede 4 (which I’m not), best songs on Life After Death>>>best songs on Reasonable Doubt
July 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I heard that Joe. ***bumps “The man right chea” by Micheal Tyler.***
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
# D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Nas is Coming = It was Written
^^^
False
^^
that was The Firm i believe…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
like everything I think is hot
^^^^
Thats what everyone does….
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
^^^ Black Shampoo = Wu Tang Forever
—————–
… LOL … the immortal U-gOD …
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Nas is Coming = It was Written
^^^
False
^^
Now you’re just being a contrarian.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
*daps Joe88*…..It’s cool man….
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Nas is Coming
^…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
>>Shaniqua countersues Curtis for $50 Million
I’m sick of women having all kinds of ridiculous legal
biasleverage over men. How in the world is it justified that she get a 5O million dollar come up?July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
# Joe 88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate?
^
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
# b-ease Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@ Boosie
RD has absolutely no fillers and Life After Death has more then 4 fillers…
Period whether ease wants to accept it or not…
^^
And thats fine, but if like I wrote in my last post, that is not a definitive measure to determine which one’s better. I would argue that the only filler on Life After Death is “Nasty Boy” but even that’s classic because of the “shit” skit. Even if I concede 4 (which I’m not), best songs on Life After Death>>>best songs on Reasonable Doubt
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you need to stop chasing ghosts….can’t you just concede that you like Life after death better than reasonable doubt?….
I can admit that albums that are considered “great” are not my particular favorite albums, I like the dynasty more than the blueprint….but I know that blueprint is better though…..
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Most_Incredible! Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Rest of the world > Jay Electronica
————–
… Lonnie is that you ? … u mad ? …
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I would argue that the only filler on Life After Death is “Nasty Boy”
^^^^^^
Nasty Boy IS NOT FILLER
Not in my books anyway
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
that was The Firm i believe…
^^
Naw, track 7 on It was written
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
… LOL … the immortal U-gOD …
^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgKJsWfx6s
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Now you’re just being a contrarian.
^^^^
im really not, nigga i told you were arch enemies…..i dont think its a filler….real talk
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
# BKScribe Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
# D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Nas is Coming = It was Written
^^^
False
^^
that was The Firm i believe…
^
I lost… i was thinkin of this firm/nas mixtape where nas is comin blended into phone tap
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
PHENOMENON Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
>>Shaniqua countersues Curtis for $50 Million
I’m sick of women having all kinds of ridiculous legal bias leverage over men. How in the world is it justified that she get a 5O million dollar come up?
^why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Filler songs on classic albums part 1 :
Synthesizer = Aquemini
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opinions are like assholes…[ll] that track is dope to me…
I understand what eskay’s saying about the Andre d-riding, but to not consider him one of the best to ever do it is crazy.
He’s not one of the best from the South…he’s one of the best period.
Southernplayalistic
ATLiens
Aquemini
Stankonia
The Love Below
not to mention he did a LOT of the production on those albums…dude is one of the dopest artists of our time.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Niggas typing up novels and shit…
hit me with the cliffnotes…I can’t read all that shit…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Co-sign Dr flav
Mystikal is actually doper than I thought he was when I use to bump his shit hard (n/h)
July 10th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate
^^^^
Oh shit, me and joe agree
July 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I lost… i was thinkin of this firm/nas mixtape where nas is comin blended into phone tap
^^^
YEa u LosT
July 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Everyone is gonna have a different opinion on who the GOAT is
Its called PERSONAL PREFERENCE
July 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
blaze22 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
# Joe 88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate?
^
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
^I done told you niggas 9, 10 times…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Eskay,
what’s a southern GOAT?….is Biggie or jay a mere northern goat?
That’s like me saying…tupac is a western Goat….
Eminem must be only a Big ten Goat…
oh that jada kid…..he’s a yonker goat….
Redman is just a jersey goat….
Sean price…a Broke rapper goat
July 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Everyone is gonna have a different opinion on who the GOAT is
Its called PERSONAL PREFERENCE
^^^
Thats right Rigz and its Camel
July 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Andre3K > Budden
*waits for niggas to get mad*
July 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
^^^
Yeah, when you factor the whole entity that Jay has become, there’s no question who’s the GOAT. We’re debating more on an album by album basis focusing more specifically on just the music rather than what the music acheived for the artist.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
# sean coonery Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Niggas typing up novels and shit…
hit me with the cliffnotes…I can’t read all that shit…
^
co-sign
July 10th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
RIGZ Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Everyone is gonna have a different opinion on who the GOAT is
Its called PERSONAL PREFERENCE
^
Yup…..
July 10th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
RD > any biggie album
why is this even a debate
^^^^
Oh shit, me and joe agree
^ Cosign. I use to have a hard time (pause) debating these two albums, but over the years I have listened to Reasonable Doubt more than I do any Biggie album. I never skip a track on Reasonable Doubt as oppose to Biggie’s albums.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
*doesnt watch video*
July 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
# D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I lost… i was thinkin of this firm/nas mixtape where nas is comin blended into phone tap
^^^
YEa u LosT
^^
http://www.tinyurl.com/yvobsj
July 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
^ ^ ^
True. But 5O mill? For what?!
July 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
@ Joe, first it was hard to follow dude, but his absence in The game gave me more time to marinate on his verses. Either that or being blown outta my brain one day. lol
July 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
just the music
^
Ok..
Jay > Andre3K > BIG
July 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
For the record I’m not from NY……
July 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Niggas on here acting like their opinion is fact…
Go log off…drink bleach…and take your family members with you while your at it…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
hov>nas>big>kiss>______
July 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
sean coonery Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Niggas on here acting like their opinion is fact…
Go log off…drink bleach…and take your family members with you while your at it…
^^^
GATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
July 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
>>That’s like me saying…tupac is a western Goat….
he is. come on you know niggas regionalize.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
PHENOMENON Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
why the hell would he sue her for 50 mil knowing she ain’t got it…you got a bird pregnant and now you gotta live with it. Suck that shit up, take care of your seed and KIM!
^ ^ ^
True. But 5O mill? For what?!
^EXACTLY! He started it so now she is just flipping it back on him…hence the term countersuit…
July 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
I can admit that albums that are considered “great” are not my particular favorite albums, I like the dynasty more than the blueprint….but I know that blueprint is better though…..
^^^
I’m a reasonable nigga. And to use your example, I think It Was Written is > but I know that’s not really the case. But that’s not what I’m doing with Life After Death. It really IS better than RD.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
NY > the rest of the world
let’s be serious.
if you’re not from NY, you lay awake at night whispering “why? why couldn’t I have been born there lord?”
NY is your hometown’s daddy
July 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RD is timeless, while albums like LAD & illmatic sound dated. That’s the biggest difference in that whole debate.
LAD & illmatic remids you of what you was doing around that time, but don’t relate to your current status, while reasonable doubt puts you in a place where his lyrics relate to current events in your life
c’mon, white collar niggas on there A game feel like no one can knock there hustle, it’s always politics as usual, only presidents represent them.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
if I ever wake up and I don’t live in NY, I will drink bleach.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
# D_Block_4_life Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I lost… i was thinkin of this firm/nas mixtape where nas is comin blended into phone tap
^^^
YEa u LosT
^^
http://www.tinyurl.com/yvobsj
^ *dies*
July 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
# Joe 88 Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Andre3K > Budden
*waits for niggas to get mad*
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Truth.Nigga.edu
Joe budden is just a surface level lyricist….. Meaning he has lyrics and is able to be lyrical in meaning….but they stop at just that….Nothing very deep or insightful…that causes you to think on an existenstial level as the likes of Andre 3000 or Nas….
July 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
i could go for a western goat roti right about now
July 10th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
at the end of the day
reasonable doubt>ready to die
reasonable doubt>life after death
July 10th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Kind of what I was thinking..I’m not even going to get into this argument but it shouldn’t even be close to who is the GOAT. Everyone should by now know it is Jay. Of course everyone has different opinions but I mean fuck Jay has 10 #1 albums.
^ ^ ^
I agree. If you flip the rookie card and look at all of the stats, Jays the G.O.A.T. Going just by music Jay is up there but probably not the G.O.A.T., but definitely up there.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
NY > the rest of the world
let’s be serious.
if you’re not from NY, you lay awake at night whispering “why? why couldn’t I have been born there lord?”
NY is your hometown’s daddy
^^^
Sizzle
July 10th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
opinions are like assholes…[ll] that track is dope to me…
^^
That’s fine. You understood my point. And couldnt argue it. lol
July 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I read some of the craziest shit i.e. opinions on this site, I guess thats why I have mostly read and lurked since 05. The >
July 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
http://www.tinyurl.com/yvobsj
^ *dies*
^^^^
I cant see this at my job, did i lose?
July 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I would murder Boosie for a roti right now.
July 10th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
eskay Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
>>That’s like me saying…tupac is a western Goat….
he is. come on you know niggas regionalize.
^So what about me & billz & the rest of the niggas from b-more with no one to represent there struggle? It’s no, “i’ma ride with the home team” for us, we just gotta choose what was given to us.
>>>let’s be serious.
if you’re not from NY, you lay awake at night whispering “why? why couldn’t I have been born there lord?”
NY is your hometown’s daddy
^I hate New York, seriously, I went up there, I was dying to come back home, the traffic sucks, no hospitality at all, the airs too thick, & people act like it’s a blessing to be from there. That’s why alot of NY niggas get killed coming down here tryna hustle, there too slick for themselfs & end up getting boxed up, but that’s another topic.
The best thing to come out of NY = 2pac
July 10th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The best thing to come out of NY = 2pac
^^^
Hov > Pac
Nas > Pac
Big > Pac
July 10th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
every other state is 10 yrs behind NY..
just came back from down south .. u dudes still wear gibauds and gold teeth…
lets not forget the knock off jordans…lol
July 10th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
canada is the shit, dont know what u guys arguin about
yall bomb countries, we just chilllll
kardinal offishal comin up, watch out
July 10th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
all eyes on me > life after death
was so good that the source didnt want to rate it when it first came out cause they werent gonna give it a 5 mic .
technically , song for song . all eyes on me .