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Nah Right » Blog Archive » NYOIL’s Hood Treason Cover — Fri, 16 May 2008 04:38:12 +0000

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By: Okay, last post on you herbs… « Hip Hop is Deadly

Okay, last post on you herbs… « Hip Hop is Deadly — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:53:21 +0000

[...] Though I can’t really agree with the same arguement when its applied to race and oppression, I agree when applied to fashion sense and perpetrating a fraud. [...]

By: fries

fries — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:52:56 +0000

Leone Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:09 am

Yeah, the people who made the music were mostly black, the people who put it out into the market were white, and the people who listened to it were ALL COLORS COUNFOUNDED.

^^^^^

Too bad if you’re black in this system, since the music industry reaps much of the benefits of your cultural product, in addition to controlling it, and the non-black audience is presented with a barrage of negative black stereotypes.

There’s also non-blacks who are not part of the audience–who might hate rap.

By: fries

fries — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:37:21 +0000

“allegedly derived from some Latin word used to reference blacks.”

That would be niger (pronounced nee-gare), meaning the color “black.”

By: clubba lang

clubba lang — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:27:20 +0000

I got different views on the word..I’m as guilty as the next man for using it as a term of endearment…but i cringe when i think of my son saying it..I blurt it out in sentences at random like it’s nothing but..if the word’s used to negatively describe me ..i get heated on some Mississippi Burning shit..I’m making a conscious effort to strike it from my vocab..because basically ..I don’t want my seeds saying it.

By: Prophecy_Projectz

Prophecy_Projectz — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:13:26 +0000

NYOIL sounds like he didnt listen to the lyrics in the verses….

By: TheOriginalBadnewz

TheOriginalBadnewz — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:58:53 +0000

How can anybody respect someone with a 9th grade education as intelligent? This has been my beef with Nas for the longest. When he first came out he was on that block shit, which is what you would expect from someone who only has a block education, and that shit was great. When he started trying to drop “knowledge”, and cats was hailing him for it, I was like “huh?”. He’s not as smart as cats make him out to be. His “statements” always come off as half cooked. He has no cohesion to them because he can never carry out a thought for an entire song. He started out his “nigga” song with a nice intro verse (as usual) and then with the second verse he went right back to the “uzi, columbian, tech” rhetoric like he always does. What the fuck does that have to do with the song? Nas fans, instead of taking offense to my words, go back and check his catelog for yourself. He’s not the dude yall think he is. That’s why Jay was like “what you trying to kick knowledge?!?!”. That’s not his steez. Just a crutch he picked up after his “street cred” was questioned. Check the history from an unbiased point of view.

By: Gif

Gif — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:39:39 +0000

I always found it funny how black folks who were against using the word nigger, would indirectly characterise black folks as niggers in their statements. They say, “I’m no nigger. Don’t call me a nigger.” Then they turn around and say white people can’t call themselves niggas because, basically only black people are niggers. When I read Nyoils comments that’s what I see. Other races can’t say nigger because only black people can be niggers. I think something is wrong with that. This whole nigger, nigga thing is stupid, really, everyone trying to make it seem as if the use of the word in Hip Hop is some profound thing when it’s not. What happened with the word nigger and the emergence of the use of the word nigga is common in the development of language. We use nigga in the same manner as we would a pronoun, rather than saying what’s up man, we say what’s up my nigga, rather than saying fuck you man, we say fuck that nigga. I call everyone nigga. I don’t reserve my use of the term for any specific skin color tone. White people used nigger as a derogatory term, which allegedly derived from some Latin word used to reference blacks. Who’s to say that nigger derived from that Latin word at all though. Ethiopians used the term Negus, which was defined as meaning king, or king of kings. Who’s to say white people didn’t hear Africans addressing themselves as kings and find the idea of us being viewed as such absurd. Who’s to say that when they enslaved us they didn’t start calling us, whatever the Latin derivative of nigger was, as a means of mocking what they heard us referring to ourselves as. Shit, they did it to Jesus; they called him the king of kings and in mock of the idea of that being true they gave him a crown of thorns. This is all pure speculation, but who the hell knows what’s true and what’s not. There’s no time machines. If we want to use nigga and disregard any relation it has to anything negative, why not? I don’t see the logic in constantly bringing up slavery and all that. What positive result does it cause? We have to stop letting white folks dictate our lives and what we do. Who cares how they used the word, we use it how we use it. If they only used fire to burn niggers would that mean we shouldn’t use it to cook food or keep warm? We have to move on. Wrote something about this in my blog called “Can I Call You Nigga Now?” @ http://www.ubethejudge2b.blogspot.com I got a lot of heated comments in disagreement to my post. My response was to leave this compelling quote from George Benard Shaw, “Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything”

By: Recruit Zero dot com

Recruit Zero dot com — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:35:43 +0000

As for the actual issue at hand, I think both sides have fair points . But Nas does this too often: he starts an arguement he doesnâ€™t know enough about & stirs trouble up. Hell, Iâ€™d rock one of those â€œniggerâ€ tees to get attention, but unlike Nas, Iâ€™d make sure I knew my reasons before doing so

^^^^
It’s better that someone brings up the subject to spark discussion in a non-malevolent way like Nas is than to have the issue in everyone’s head but no one’s taking about it…any advancements stem from discussion, b

By: Manik

Manik — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:23:21 +0000

>>And let me know what you REALLY think, this is something I threw together last nightâ€¦I can add text, switch up the image, whateverâ€¦

I like it. I would add some â€˜circle yo cribâ€™ text, but really small, maybe on the sleeve or directly under the image, but not too noticeable. and then on the back or on the other sleeve, a really small â€˜www.nahright.comâ€™
^^^^^^^^^^
I would cop this.

As for the actual issue at hand, I think both sides have fair points . But Nas does this too often: he starts an arguement he doesn’t know enough about & stirs trouble up. Hell, I’d rock one of those “nigger” tees to get attention, but unlike Nas, I’d make sure I knew my reasons before doing so

By: david gonzalez

david gonzalez — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:06:32 +0000

once again nas byting off origional music…nwa had that dr pepper nigga jingle like 20 years ago

By: big tone

big tone — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:59:48 +0000

first of all, how many artists at nas’ level even attempt to address issues? maybe his job is to be the conversation starter and OUR job as fans and listeners is to flesh out the ideas. one thing about nas that I notice is that people always demand more out of him even when he gives more than his contemporaries. SMH @ that shit

By: Oh Brutha

Oh Brutha — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:51:39 +0000

why in the world are we still concerned about “what they want”

what matters is the reality of the situation. Nas is opening pandora’s box has opened panadoras box, and there’s no way of gauging how far this foolery will go

By: PHENOMENON

PHENOMENON — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:40:32 +0000

THOUGH I DID NOT APPROVE THE SONG STANDING ON ITS OWN I STILL THINK I HAVE TO HEAR THE ENTIRE”NIGGER” ALBUM FIRST BEFORE PASS JUDGMENT ON IT.

IT MAY BE APART OF A GRAND SCHEME THAT COULD BE QUALITY MATERIAL.

**BASICALLY I’M GIVING NAS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT

By: steve

steve — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:38:11 +0000

well put, eskay. me and one of my co-workers listened to this song yesterday when you put it up, and my immediate reaction was that the track wasn’t really doing anything. nas is taking the racial issue and using it for promotional purposes… at no point during the song does he provide any intellectual insight into modern racial struggles. he just uses the epithets to shock the listener, which is cheap and pointless. it seems like he’s becoming more of a stunt rapper than a political one… hip-hop is dead, for example. shocking, yes, but he didn’t really offer a solution. same deal with “Nigger.” too bad he can’t be political and shocking at the same time.

By: Vee

Vee — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:35:25 +0000

I really don’t think it was wrong for NYOIL to air out his views on Nas direction because his comments were really well thought out and not negative. He didn’t make a point to personally attack Nas.

“failure to articulate these big ideas and theories that seem profound and well thought out on the surface”

That basically sums up the Hip Hop is Dead CD. He really does little to support his stance in a clear and effective manner. I pretty much doubt he will be able to achieve any semblance of clarity with a topic involving the controversial word.
Is he going to offer any new insight?
Will he rehash oft used rhetoric?
Or will he form an argument from an emotional point of view?

By: MDN

MDN — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:32:39 +0000

Most words have a definition. This word has one, and I don’t see anything relating to black people in it. The word has too much power against us (black people), and all NAS is trying to do is take power from it. If you ask me, its similar to the word bitch. If your not a bitch (female dog), don’t take it personal. If your not a nigger (ignorant person), don’t take it personal.

By: Leone

Leone — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:12:25 +0000

And thank you NYOIL for making NAS’ song much better in the light of your feeble opposition.

By: D_Block_4_life

D_Block_4_life — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:11:41 +0000

I got a whole weeks worth of lunch on Utah beating houston in 5

By: eskay

eskay — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:10:10 +0000

>>Iâ€™m sick of niggas referring the GOAT as lil homie eskay u need to respect greatness

ok, I’ve been calling him that for 5 years, but lemme stop cuz you’re salty.