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Big Noyd

Big Noyd ft. CNN - Weed, Guns, Girls & Money

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217 Responses to “Big Noyd ft. CNN - Weed, Guns, Girls & Money”

Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
OH SHIT CNN POST

AAAAAAOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!

I FUCKS WITH IT
Mr.White Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
2nd
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
I ASKED A NIGGA YO, WHY DOES NORE CALL HIS BUILDING IRAQ, AND REFER TO OTHER PARTS OF THE HOOD AS IRAN LEBONON USA KWAIGT
ECT…
HE AINT KNOW, DOES ANYBODY HERE KNOW??

I KNOW…
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
KUWAIT*
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
KUWAIT*
g7 Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
weed, guns, girls and money. nice to see they have all the major hip hop topics covered.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Nas misses on songs more that jay-z cause he takes more chances than jay and I’m a fan of bout
Paperstacker Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Pretty much the Truth here

1.Reasonable Doubt
2.LOST TAPES
3.Blueprint
4.Black album
5.American Gangster
6.Vol.1
7.Vol 3
8.Dynasty
9.The Blueprint2
10.Kingdom Come
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Nah, Why then Dro?

I alway knew they did it, but I never known why…

I remember in 98 Nore was out here explaining which country was which hood…
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Yo rigz you get that email i sent?

i was feeling that verse you sent….

out in LEFRAK CITY, QUEENS each building is marked with a flag and the buildings are named by countries….so i think nore lived in the usa building, so its like that
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I looked over at the Lupe Tokyo, Paris post.

SMH at some of you people… I call em’ “Antique holders”

It was written can still be played in today’s time. The beats are still updated and fresh and nas’ rhyme style did change. It was much more fluid plus he was one with the beat.

Nas was a better song maker in it was written, and much more gully.

Really I could give a flying fuck if nas wasn’t real with the mafioso talk and all that bullshit, What he said was hot.

Hotness > Realness….Hotness overrides realness…..we gotta stop judging the people and judge the music.

People have to let go of this idea of the holy illmatic. Illmatic is a classic true indeed, but It was written has staying power. The shit is still fresh.
when you listen to illmatic, nas has that old school choppy flow and the beats are borderline oldschool/80′ish. Yes lyrics are great but his song making ability is not as good as it was on it was written.

And some of the songs on illmatic are dull at times till nas busts out a nasty rhyme, here and there.

Life’s a bitch is the most current song on Illmatic. Meaning that It can be played on the radio without sounding dated.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Yo rigz you get that email i sent?

i was feeling that verse you sentâ€¦.

^^^^^^^^

Yeah, I replied…

“From 41 / 12, to the USA building in Iraq…”

Yeah I figured thats what it was…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Yeah, It Was Written & Illmatic are equal to me…(See last post)

Even though It Was Written is lyrically better by quite a longshot…
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
To the person who said Kingdom come was a miscalculation, hit it right on the head.

Jay-z thought he could move the streets in a different direction, with a different sounding album and wanted to change hip-hop. But it backfired. Only because everyone thought he was coming back as superman that was going to be full of bangers and coke talk.

Jay learned that you cannot move the streets 180 degrees. It has to be a few degrees here and there.

Jay found out that He wasn’t in charge like that. He thought he could put out his own music and everybody would conform. So it kind of humbled him. He now realizes that no one person is stronger than hip-hop.

Hip-hop is like a constitutional republic- we elect our leaders, tell them to take charge, but when they do drastic stuff, we call em on it. So in essence you’re still bound by the people/streets.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Serani’s on this song?????

Wow.

Noyd knows about Serani?

I wonder if Deseca did this beat
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Sorry Rigz,

Streets disciple is def. not that hot to me in the totality of things.

And I listened to it thoroughly, even though I didn’t care for it, I so desperately wanted to like it. But I’ll give you this. I thought it was going to be a near classic, but it didnt meet my expectations so thats maybe why people are downing it.

But The first disc> Second disc.

Just a moment was the hottest song with quan, Message to the feds was hot, sekou, the heroe’s track and a couple of others but that’s about it. It was wayward and all over the place

But I respect people’s opinion on why they say it’s hot, but I would say most people thought it was a dissapointment which means that everybody has different taste when it comes to artistic expression.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
But It Was Written ? I could see the arguments for HHID or Stillmatic but It Was Written is Nas joining the dark side with all that mafioso, fake ass Italian gangsta mayonaise. (Good album nonetheless). But thereâ€™s definitely nothing â€œmisunderstoodâ€ or â€œcomplexâ€ about it. (Minus â€œI Gave You Powerâ€ and â€œIf I Ruled The Worldâ€â€¦which really donâ€™t match the albumâ€™s theme anywayâ€¦)

^^^
It Was Written is a concept album. The ressurected spirit of a murdered rebellious slave reborn in 1970’s New York as a smart kid turned kingpin named Nas Escobar. Each song is an episode, it bounces in chronology like a Tarentino flick but each track is enoughtof a snapshit to be able to trace what was taking place at the height and at the beginning of the decline of this cat’s reign. It’s Cuban Linx on fucking steroids. Hell ,even if it isnt anything I just said it is, the verses in an of themselves stand as some of hiphops best whether its “Italian gangsta mayonnaise” or not. “If I ruled the world” is the thoughts of this guy when not consumed in the bullshit. A rare moment of clarity that we see in all or favorite gangsta stories (Sopranos, Goodfellas, Life After Death, etc…)It fits perfectly, and stands alongside “Black Girl Lost” as examples that even the most evil of men is really just molded by circumstanes (”Street Dreams”). The man who uses women as murdering whores (”The Setup”) also feels their plight. Contradictions are life. And “I gave you power” is just an exploration of the gun culture that controls are inner cites that fuels and destoys the lives of dudes like Esco and millions of us around the world. It’s what the whole album is about. Shit, it’s what Nas’ whole career is about. Listen to “It Was Written” again and forget about that Jeru the Damaja voice in the back of your head.

Sorry about the essay.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
*snapshit - snapshot

Oh yea, the beats are fucking crazy too.

Weakest song : “Watch Them Niggas”

The rest of those shits are iron plated. To me, without this album, the JayZ/Nas argument doesnt even exist…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
But I respect peopleâ€™s opinion on why they say itâ€™s hot, but I would say most people thought it was a dissapointment which means that everybody has different taste when it comes to artistic expression.

^^^^^^^

I feel that, alot of people thought it was a dissapointment…but I thought SD was ill…I still do…

Only song I think is wack is “The Makings of a Perfect Bitch”. OTher than that, I think its a real solid LP. Plus its probably Nas’ 2nd best lyrical performance (after It Was Written)

But I do understand when people say they dont like it…I dont think that album is for everybody…I think Nas knew that too
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
selleck a vet!

suprised no one made mentions of how terribly hard this track is. Noyd did this track no justice.

murdered you on yo own ish!

eli porter > RIGZ.

….
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
But I do understand when people say they dont like itâ€¦I dont think that album is for everybodyâ€¦I think Nas knew that too

^thats some real shit RIGZ, Nas has said many times its not for everybody.
Digital Scales Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
WORD COLD CNN DID THEY THING
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
eli porter > RIGZ.

^^^^^

Heat > cOLD

But yeah…Eli’s pause in his verse is better than most of my songs, I admit it…I rewound that shit a billion times! lol
ian Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Peep the title of 4 of the last 6 posts on Nah Right:

- Big Noyd ft. CNN - Weed, Guns, Girls & Money

- Lloyd Banks - Crack & Money Rules The World

- Video: Speedknot Mobstaz ft. Twista - Money To Blow

- Video: Dame Grease ft. E-Nasty - Coke Talk (Live)

And people wonder why fans aren’t buying/as interested in hip hop as they used to be?!! Sh-t is getting wild redundant/boring….
farsideoff Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Lifeâ€™s a bitch is the most current song on Illmatic. Meaning that It can be played on the radio without sounding dated.

____________

nosign, NY State of Mind has one of Nasir’s best flows to date and a great beat to go with it. Just because a beat is simple doesn’t mean its no good. Those songs feel “dated” in a nostalgic vein, there is no quality lost. That same “dated” feel is what Wu-Tang eliminated on 8 Diagrams and thats what got everyone all disturbed about a difference from their previous releases.

“Rappers I monkey flip em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I’m like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I’m extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I’m suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I’ll defeat foes”
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
good observation Ian.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I you negros what was nas and jay_z worst songs of their career? My pick for jay is ” I know what girls like” f/ puffy daddy and for nas I say “reason” of street disciple
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Good choices sleep

I’d go with : “New World” for Nas off Nastradamus

and “guilty until proven innocent” with Kells off the Dynasty for Jay (if not his worst song, its hands down his worst single…) this should have been indication enought that the “Fiesta” remix was a fluke but niggas got greedy and did “Best Of Both Worlds” anyway. Incidentally,

Best of Both Worlds>Kingdom Come
farsideoff Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
“Show Me Whatcha Got,” simply because Wayne showed just what could be done with that beat and embarrassed Jay. “Zone Out” off of God’s Son has the worst Chorus of any rap song ever and Nas’ verses are fairly weak.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
best os both worlds the ideaÂ»Â»best of both world the album.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Zone Outâ€ off of Godâ€™s Son has the worst Chorus of any rap song ever and Nasâ€™ verses are fairly weak.

^^^
Wack song, yes. I dont really agree with your reasons tho. I dig Nas’ verse, ill subliminal Cam diss (”you got a House In Virginia/the only way you sicker than us/Getting bagged with 22’s now youse the ridiculous fuck”). Beats not good, but not horrible, and it’s not really a chorus so much as a chant, which would have been a lot more effective if the track was 3 destrucive Nas verses. Instead, we got what truly turns the song from album filler to shit sub. The Bravehearts. Nepotism and weed carrying at its worst.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I forgot about zone out that shit was a hurrican katrina.plus the song of stillmatic f/ bravehearts it was only on the first 500,000 of that album
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
sleep Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
best os both worlds the ideaÂ»Â»best of both world the album.

^^^
lol, that goes without saying homie
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
sleep Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I forgot about zone out that shit was a hurrican katrina.plus the song of stillmatic f/ bravehearts it was only on the first 500,000 of that album

^^^
“Braveheart Party”, it was insane how horrible that song was. Urban legend I remember hearing in college was that Mary was the one that got the song deaded. Conflict of interest with her new best buddy Jay…
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I have to disagree that guily til proven innocent was jay worst single ima have to say “girls girls girl” the remix was 10 times better. But for some reason I never like my favorite artist singles
CiCi The Intern Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
# b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Zone Outâ€ off of Godâ€™s Son has the worst Chorus of any rap song ever and Nasâ€™ verses are fairly weak.

^^^
Wack song, yes. I dont really agree with your reasons tho. I dig Nasâ€™ verse, ill subliminal Cam diss (â€you got a House In Virginia/the only way you sicker than us/Getting bagged with 22â€™s now youse the ridiculous fuckâ€). Beats not good, but not horrible, and itâ€™s not really a chorus so much as a chant, which would have been a lot more effective if the track was 3 destrucive Nas verses. Instead, we got what truly turns the song from album filler to shit sub. The Bravehearts. Nepotism and weed carrying at its worst.
^^^

exactly … its the Braveheart’s fault that shit waves into garbage.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
The reason he put the bravehearts on was because jay was saying how he never put nobody on in his whole career. But I’m sure he couldve found better niggas from queenz
ODEMIC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
best of both worlds the ideaÂ»Â»best of both world the album.

>>every single time any rapper tries to execute this offerin’. smh at bow wow & marion.
ODEMIC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
wasalu’s video is tight, but somehow i get the feelin’ CRS won’t score.

I mean how many 3-man alternative-soundin’ groups does Pharrel wanna be a part of…
CiCi The Intern Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Worst than Zone Out: Braveheart f/ Nas “Quick to Back Down”
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
>>every single time any rapper tries to execute this offerinâ€™. smh at bow wow & marion.

^^^
Remember when Kellz and Birdman were gonna drop one? They even had a single for that shit! And it was horrible (not that I expected it to be dope,just saying)! Hands down the most bizarre was Cam’Ron and Jaheim. That “Lord Knows” was my shit for like two weeks tho.
PRETTY E Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Yo Digital Scales, the hood that NORE is from is Lefrak City. People in the hood used to call it Lafrak, because of all the LA (weed) everyone use to puff on a daily basis. When NORE came home from serving his jail sentence, he came up the with the name IRAQ to represent Lefrak and Kuwait to represent Queensbridge (the hood Capone) is from.

Nore lived in the USA building in section 2, but people don’t give nicknames to each individual building.

Now across the street is Sherwood apartments, and people refer to that as Iran sometimes due to its proximity to the hood.

I used to live in section 1, in the Rome building, so I know what I’m talking about. Hope that answers your question.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
CiCi The Intern Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Worst than Zone Out: Braveheart f/ Nas â€œQuick to Back Downâ€

^^^
Holy Shit. That was bad.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
# ian Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

Peep the title of 4 of the last 6 posts on Nah Right:

And people wonder why fans arenâ€™t buying/as interested in hip hop as they used to be?!! Sh-t is getting wild redundant/boringâ€¦.

^^

I think People are still interested in Hip-hop, just not that particular hip-hop you named. I mean CNN is old, Lloyd Banks is on the verge of irrelevancy, and twista is old.

Those artists are redundant in their speech and their time was up a long time ago. People are interested in a new sound, which doesnt reflect those artist.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
That jay-z/ beyonce is coming in sure I hate the shit off kingdom come and me and my girlfriend but their other collabos is cool
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
just listening to Nas - Destroy and rebuild. He set it straight on that joint.
JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
What up to all nahggers in attendance

*daps, daps*

B-ease, Digi, Rigz, CiCi *hugs*, 7 stacks an the rest… what it is? It’s been a minute..

___________

Worst than Zone Out: Braveheart f/ Nas â€œQuick to Back Downâ€

^^^

Nah… that Braveheart Pary jawn wit Mary on it… woooooow that was bad.
farsideoff Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Remember when Kellz and Birdman were gonna drop one? They even had a single for that shit! And it was horrible (not that I expected it to be dope,just saying)! Hands down the most bizarre was Camâ€™Ron and Jaheim. That â€œLord Knowsâ€ was my shit for like two weeks tho.

______________

The prospect of one of the most successful R&B singers was going to pair up with one of the most successful rappers seemed a bit more interesting than Omarian and Bow Wow. I know the whole sex tape scandal hurt the publicity for that album, I don’t know if it affected the quality, but since then Kels just went further into joke status with the whole Closet Odyssey.
ODEMIC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Worst than Zone Out: Braveheart f/ Nas â€œQuick to Back Downâ€

>>that joint ended lil’ jon’s career.think about it…
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
sleep can you inform us over another story of that girl that was picking you up and how you couldn’t stand it?
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxudOGNRg3k&feature=related

mechanical…

^only a certain few.
ODEMIC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
braveheart the group makes me kinda appreciate the success of g-unit the group.kinda…sorta…maybe…
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
inteligence is like frequencies, you can only reach the people that are tuned in. - cOLD
CiCi The Intern Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
# JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Nahâ€¦ that Braveheart Pary jawn wit Mary on itâ€¦ woooooow that was bad.
^^

*hugs JayDeez supertight*

Braveheart Party was bad. It was only on the first shipping of the album lol Mary couldn’t even save that joint.

Worst Jay song: Parking Lot Pimpin’
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Damm nigga u got a good memory. So she’s my girl now but the funny shit we take the train and the cabs more that her own shit. Cause she be like she’s tired and she don’t want to drive after a long day of work. And on the weekend she don’t like driving into the city cause parking is like $40 I live in ny everything is expensive
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
what up jay??? Lazy sunday for everybody else too huh??

Ci : I admit the concept in and of itself is beyond asinine, and any song with that hook and beat should be automatic trash bin status, but at the same time…Jay and Beans do these really weird internal rhyme schemes on that joint that feel like they belong on another, better song. And Bleek on that joint reminds me of why i ever thought that kid deserved a career. Funny tho, that your worst Jay and my worst Jay are back back tracks on the same album. Dynasty had some clunkers…
JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@ CiCi How you been? You done wit the internship right?

Worst Jay song: Parking Lot Pimpinâ€™
elle Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
can ya think of any other titles besides the ones that have been taken at least 50 million times? like what about V.I.C.’s single “get silly” thats a name you havent heard for a song in a while!
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
The bravehearts and split star the worst weed carries to ever touch a mic. The bravehearts had 1 video and that shit was decent it us to be on rap city top 10 I’m go google that shit now
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Worst Jay song: “2 Many Hoes” (BP2)

Worst Nas song: “New World” (Nastragarbage)

Worst B.I.G. song: “Friend Of Mine” (I know it ain’t righttttt)
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
cOLD Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
just listening to Nas - Destroy and rebuild. He set it straight on that joint.

^^^
Until that song, every other Mega song had at least one Nas diss on it. After that song, the only other song Mega wrote about Nas was him squashing the beef.

Cornbread, Buckwheat look-a-like/ Its Mega…
Back to Cor
Got him a deal but his rhymes was wack
Def Jam mad that he signed the contract

Keep in mind The Realness is in my top 25 favorite albums of all time.
The Slick Rick voice was the nail in the proverbial coffin. Sick.
JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Worst Jay song: Parking Lot Pimpinâ€™

^^

My bad.. i meant to say: You crazy. That shit was hot.
CiCi The Intern Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
# JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

@ CiCi How you been? You done wit the internship right?â€™
^^^

Yep, but I have some real good stuff lined up so I’m excited.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Man Kobe has ruthless ambition, he’s the closest thing to jordan, mentality as it gets.

Jordan was dominating and put the dagger in your heart, but Kobe is more about humiliating you and putting the dagger in your heart.

Kobe is just so ruthless with, and its a do anything at all cost.

Jordan was more inclusive of his domination and projected a team killer instinct where as kobe its all about himself.

I used to be a kobe hater, but I’m starting to like kobe more and more. I think his passion is misunderstood, or maybe his passion is misguided.
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Nas ended nature career with destroy and rebuild whatever little momentum he had from banned from tv
cOLD Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
bout to watch “The Bank Job”. Peace Nahrizzle
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Worst Jay song: â€œ2 Many Hoesâ€ (BP2)

^^^
Damn…thats a good one.

Worst Nas song: â€œNew Worldâ€ (Nastragarbage)
^^^
Yea, I posted the same one up further in the post.
CiCi The Intern Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
# sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

Nas ended nature career with destroy and rebuild whatever little momentum he had from banned from tv
^^^^
ayo nature I cant hold your hand through this shit man
Im not your father man, be your own man, stand on your own two

Nature: The Irrelevant QB bum
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I respect kobe passion for the basket and pussy he gets both by any means necessary
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
It Was Written is a concept album. The ressurected spirit of a murdered rebellious slave reborn in 1970â€™s New York as a smart kid turned kingpin named Nas Escobar. Each song is an episode, it bounces in chronology like a Tarentino flick but each track is enoughtof a snapshit to be able to trace what was taking place at the height and at the beginning of the decline of this catâ€™s reign. Itâ€™s Cuban Linx on fucking steroids. Hell ,even if it isnt anything I just said it is, the verses in an of themselves stand as some of hiphops best whether its â€œItalian gangsta mayonnaiseâ€ or not. â€œIf I ruled the worldâ€ is the thoughts of this guy when not consumed in the bullshit. A rare moment of clarity that we see in all or favorite gangsta stories (Sopranos, Goodfellas, Life After Death, etcâ€¦)It fits perfectly, and stands alongside â€œBlack Girl Lostâ€ as examples that even the most evil of men is really just molded by circumstanes (â€Street Dreamsâ€). The man who uses women as murdering whores (â€The Setupâ€) also feels their plight. Contradictions are life. And â€œI gave you powerâ€ is just an exploration of the gun culture that controls are inner cites that fuels and destoys the lives of dudes like Esco and millions of us around the world. Itâ€™s what the whole album is about. Shit, itâ€™s what Nasâ€™ whole career is about. Listen to â€œIt Was Writtenâ€ again and forget about that Jeru the Damaja voice in the back of your head.

=============================================

This is album is not that sweet homie. Even Nas knew he lost his way and this was the beginning. Why do you think Stillmatic is considered his rebirth (even without “Ether)??? He was on on that whole Firm trip and it was just taking him out of his zone as a lyricist. It may have mirrored some of themes on Cuban Linx and Life After Death but Foxy Brown serving Dominicans, him jumping out bushes in fatigues on ex-felons and all that bullshit he kicked on “Nas Is Coming” just ain’t flying kid. It ain’t cinematic, it’s sloppy. “Black Girl Lost” comes outta nowhere. Bout as incongrous as the movie Belly itself…

*sigh*

1.Illmatic
2.Stillmatic
3.Hip Hop Is Dead
4.The Lost Tapes (I don’t even like this being on the list cuz it’s not an album)
5.God’s Son
6.It Was Written
7.Street’s Disciple
7.i am…
8.That Other Shit…

P.S. The Dynasty had 0 clunkers.
JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Yep, but I have some real good stuff lined up so Iâ€™m excited.

^^

Thats whats up Ci.. I see you.. on your grind an shit
sleep Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Why did nature move to marcy?
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
ODEMIC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Worst than Zone Out: Braveheart f/ Nas â€œQuick to Back Downâ€

>>that joint ended lilâ€™ jonâ€™s career.think about itâ€¦

^^^
Indeed…
JayDeez Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
P.S. The Dynasty had 0 clunkers.

^^^

Co-sign.

I don’t know how so many people hate on that album. Shit was fire all the way through to me.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
This is album is not that sweet homie. Even Nas knew he lost his way and this was the beginning. Why do you think Stillmatic is considered his rebirth (even without â€œEther)??? He was on on that whole Firm trip and it was just taking him out of his zone as a lyricist

^^^
Stillmatic is considered his rebirth…from I Am, Nastradamus, and the QB Finest compilation. Nas didnt think he lost his way, he was confused at the reception of It Was Written, and that threw him off track. “Nas is Coming” is a weak song, I forgot about that one, but “Black Girl Lost” coming out of nowhere?? Naw, read my post, it comes after “The Setup”, on which two girls (who may be the two girls on the phone at the beginning of Black Girl Lost) are used to set up a rival. They are the definition of lost. Fits perfectly. This is the beginning of the Firm, true, but keep in mind, the Firm seemed like a good idea until the actual album dropped. Inconguous, only if you consider something like Pulp Fiction or Memento incongruous. And comparing it to Belly is just a low blow.

Dynasty clunkers : Holla, ROC, Guilty Until Proven innocent. Change the Game is average, Stick to the Script isnt aging well, Snoop’ verse on Get your Mind Right sinks the song.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
taking him out of his zone as a lyricist.

^^^
Silent Murder, Shootouts, Take It in Blood…if this is out of the zone, I don’t want to hear “in” the zone.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Hip Hop is Dead better than It Was Written????

Crazy talk.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
@ b-ease

But I’m saying, that whole mafioso phase that them niggas was going through, it was a fad. They probably didn’t think so at the time but lookin’ back, you gotta admit, niggas in Timb boots, smoking cigars, poppin’ silver briefcases with Jews—stupid shit. Watch the video to “Mo Money, Mo’ Murda”…them niggas look dumb. Why do you think Raekwon dropped such an incredible album and hasn’t been relevant since? And albums like HHID and God’s Son are a true reflection on who Nas actually is—musically and conceptually. A positive dude with a street mentality. Not hiding behind some far-fetched facade on some movie shit.

Them dudes dipped their heads in a bucket of coke while watching Romello take over NY…over and over and over again. They had to snap out of it sometime.

And tell me, I know it sounds ill but what is “Take It In Blood” about really?
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Anyone that thinks Stillmatic is ANYWHERE NEAR as good as It Was Written is either smoking Mef, or following media hype….

Usually its the latter…

It Was Written IS a CLASSIC album (how can it NOT be?).

It Was Written is the best lyrical performance Nas has ever perfromed (fuck grammer).

It Was Written wasnt the start of Nas talking mafioso shit…check the rhymes on Illmatic CAREFULLY. Then listen to his guest spots on 456, Infamous, Doe Or Die & Cuban Linx…

The only argument for a better Nas album than It Was Written is Illmatic. Anything else dont make no sense at all.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
And tell me, I know it sounds ill but what is â€œTake It In Bloodâ€ about really?

^^^^

What is Halftime or It Aint Hard To Tell about? Its just dope beats & rhymes man
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Man ya’ll some sighing ass niggas lol, but with that said.

TC,

How about judging the music instead of their personal lives. I mean that’s like judging kobe on his rape case instead of his basketball talent.

You’re judging a video of a song that was on AZ’s album which don’t reflect the song itself.

You not even judging the beats and rhymes you’re mad cause they were talking about coke. so what? So a movie is bad just because they are talking crack and cocaine? a good movie is a good movie, a good song is a good song fam.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
# RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

And tell me, I know it sounds ill but what is â€œTake It In Bloodâ€ about really?

^^^^

What is Halftime or It Aint Hard To Tell about? Its just dope beats & rhymes man

^^

True indeed, I mean when did every single song have to be about something substantial. Really man its just about dope beats and rhymes at the end of the day.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Hands down It was written had the best beats for any nas album, thats not even an argument.

HHID is too polished, nas is better when he spits what he’s thinking. Same with Jay. Kingdom come was too polished, to well constructed.

On it was written nas was just zoning out, spitting shit. He was half freestyle, half concepting, at the same time. which came out nice.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
My Movado say 7 the God-Hour, thats if you follow
Traditions started by the school not far from the Apollo

Nas drops WAAAAYYYY more jewels on It Was Written than any other Nas album. You just gotta know what he’s talking about…

You can tell he was studying the Lessons & Israelite books heavy when he wrote this album…

He actually says more enlightening shit on It Was Written than on Illmatic
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Nah Jud, I’m judging the actual content of the music. From Illmatic to It Was Written there was a big jump in his lyrical angle. Nas definitely has it rough for dropping Illmatic first (smh @ ya’ll for in trying to discredit it’s greatness even a lil’ bit) but some of that shit is just a little too unreal. I don’t care if he’s talkin’ bout moving weight (damn near all rappers have done it) but he went from the “NY State Of Mind” to Alejandro Sosa’s State Of Mind.

You don’t think that’s a bit much?

I’m not saying it’s not a dope album but I remember some dudes in school just really eating that shit up when I found “takin’ shots/drunk off champange from Sicily” a litte too much to swallow. Just a lil’…

For those reasons, I can’t never except it as “definitive classic.” I mean if ya’ll find that type of angle to be superior to others, then so be it, but I try to tell people all the time why it didn’t get re-rated as 5 Mics
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Nas used the whole mafioso imagery to make a truly deeper artistic statement than a shock tactic like Hip hop is dead can even come close to. The second track on HHID is a mafioso tale. The whole Black mob persona is just a writer zone he steps into, just like he can also slip into revolutionary zone, high concept zone, or shitty trying to make a commericial single zone. If you don’t like the drug/mafia content, i feel you, but denying the sheer illness of the beats and the rhymes?? Especially compared to HHID, that just aint right…
ODEMIC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Nas self-indulged education >>>>>>> Our regular education
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
TC,

Nah I dont think its a bit much, the songs are just hotter on It was written. The musical aspect of it was written is just a lot better. His song making ability is much better on that album.

On illmatic he was just rhyming to be rhyming and spitting metaphorical lines without real purpose.

on It was written, I could actually feel what he was saying, plus the beats are like 50 percent better.

Like I said he could be talking about filet mignon and talk about fried chicken in the next song, but if the fried chicken song is hotter than its just plain hotter.

The “realness” aspect to me, is not a weighing factor, the sosa talk doesnt alter my perception of the album.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I’m all about Teks, good juks & sex,
Israelite books, holding Government names from ‘nets

^^^^^

Those two lines define the whole concept of It Was Written. I aint mad at that at all…Thats not far from my reality at all

***********************

>>>I found â€œtakinâ€™ shots/drunk off champange from Sicilyâ€ a litte too much to swallow. Just a lilâ€™â€¦

^^^^^^

See what he ACTUALLY said is

Sky’s is misty,
My life predicted by a gypsy:
I’LL ONE DAY WALK INTO SHOTS DRUNK OFF CHAMPAGNE FROM SICILY

…Thats ill…

Nas been dreaming about being Scarface since The World Is Yours…People just didnt follow where he was going
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
See what he ACTUALLY said is

Skyâ€™s is misty,
My life predicted by a gypsy:
Iâ€™LL ONE DAY WALK INTO SHOTS DRUNK OFF CHAMPAGNE FROM SICILY

â€¦Thats illâ€¦

^^^
Exactly.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I think a lot of cats, even ones who listened to HHID quite a bit, dismissed it for a simple “shock tactic” and ultimately slept on the album. “Hold Down The Block” is something all the kids need to hear today. If you can get past the voice “Who Killed It” has an ill concept. “Can’t Forget About You” is one of his best singles in a minute and joints with Kanye, Jay, Game, and Snoop…well…

Like I said, I like It Was Written…don’t love it. The content is cool but how can that trump some real life ish…I don’t know. Foxy’s Brown’s verse on “AA” was far-fetched enough. Ya’ll try to make some of those songs better than what they are.

“The Setup”-nice lil’ story. It ain’t seeing “Undying Love” though.

“Live Nigga Rap”-Ill. “Eye For An Eye” is way better though.

“Nas Is Coming”-Mann…that’s like one of the worst Dre beats I’ve ever heard. Pussies n’ buttholes? Joey Buttafucco? GTFOH!!!
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
but he went from the â€œNY State Of Mindâ€ to Alejandro Sosaâ€™s State Of Mind.

^^^
I think it was a pretty incredible creative leap to write about the essentially the same topics but from the perspective of a completely different persona. Yea, the mafiso shit got played out. And that’s why we still have arguments about IWW being a classic. People associate the album unfairly with how faddish the mafioso rap became. Listen to It Was Written in a vaccum, away from thoughts of how corny the mob shit became, and you’ll hear a truly impressive piece of work.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
The only thing saving HHID from being Nas’ worst LP is Nastrudamus IMO

…HHID wasnt nice…

…It Was Written is a classic album…

Comparing HHID to IWW is a comparison that holds no weight.

None at all.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
â€œThe Setupâ€-nice lilâ€™ story. It ainâ€™t seeing â€œUndying Loveâ€ though.

^^^^^^

And Undying Love aint some mafioso shit?!?!

He starts the song:

“Pacino life, vegas strip, neon lights…”

?????

Shootouts, The Setup, I Gave You Power…all storytelling at its best…

Undying Love is ill no doubt…But by your standards am I to call it wack because:

1) He wasnt a boss shopping in Vegas for wedding rings
2) He doesnt live the life he describes in the first verse
3) The story isnt true, since he’s still alive & DIDNT kill his wife & commit suicide

????

Its stupid man.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
â€œThe Setupâ€-nice lilâ€™ story. It ainâ€™t seeing â€œUndying Loveâ€ though.

^^^^^^

And Undying Love aint some mafioso shit?!?!

He starts the song:

“Pacino life, vegas strip, neon lights…”

?????

Shootouts, The Setup, I Gave You Power…all storytelling at its best…

Undying Love is ill no doubt…But by your standards am I to call it wack because:

1) He wasnt a boss shopping in Vegas for wedding rings
2) He doesnt live the life he describes in the first verse
3) The story isnt true, since he’s still alive & DIDNT kill his wife & commit suicide
4) He isnt muslim & doesnt pray to who he said

????

Its stupid man.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
@ b-ease

I was saying it was little corny back then. I was in 8th grade when that shit dropped and I’m like “this nigga is a Goodfella!!!” What part of the game is that? No one’s denying his rhyming ability but like I said: How do you go from all those lyrical parables on reminiscing about “Memory Lane” to everything on It Was Written? It was a lil’ puzzling.

@ Rigz

U trippin’.

Good argument gentlemen. Nice to see actually discussions going on @ NahRight.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
didnt mean to do that…

*dissappears*
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I think a lot of cats, even ones who listened to HHID quite a bit, dismissed it for a simple â€œshock tacticâ€ and ultimately slept on the album. â€œHold Down The Blockâ€ is something all the kids need to hear today. If you can get past the voice â€œWho Killed Itâ€ has an ill concept. â€œCanâ€™t Forget About Youâ€ is one of his best singles in a minute and joints with Kanye, Jay, Game, and Snoopâ€¦wellâ€¦

^^^
Me being disappointed with HHID had nothing to do with the shock tacticsw. Songs like Hold Down the Block are great if you read them off a piece of paper. Musically, it doesnt hold up, and the same can be said for alot of the tracks on the album. And the joint with Kelis is painful. Lackluster production throughout, half thought out concepts, and really good guest spots. Can’t Forget About you is his dopest single in while but that’s more a testament to him dropping weak singles than a co-sign of that being a really great song.

And what does Eye for an Eye or undying love being better got to do with anything? Yf
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
@ Rigz

But we weren’t beat upside the head with it for an entire album. From what I remember “Undying Love” was a IWW leftover so it makes sense.

Like I said: Illmatic was his gift and his curse.

Stillmatic brought him back where he was supposed to be…
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Good argument gentlemen. Nice to see actually discussions going on @ NahRight.

^^^
Agreed. I’m all about shooting the shit on here, but aint nothing wrong with a good old fashioned hiphop nerd album debate.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
And what does Eye for an Eye or undying love being better got to do with anything? Yf

========================================

Surely if It Was Written was/is the classic you say it is, it shouldn’t have no problem standing up to any songs in Hip-Hop’s history, let alone his on catalog…
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
TC,

you’re judging it was written off Illmatic and not on its merit. Like I said you’re not judging the music. You’re mad cause he was talking about mafioso, and timberland boots shooting up shit, and not talking about his real life experiences.

Thats not judging the music, thats judging the topics. Why does Nas have to talk about his real life? If he wants to go inside the mind of Alejandro sosa, what difference does it make? As long as its down with acuity, intelligence and makes it hot.

I mean really, who cares about real life shit? since when did hip-hop reflect real life? Hip-hop is wwe, part truth part fantasy. Music doesnt have to be about real life.

Would you dismiss the Hell hath no fury by the clipse, wack cause they don’t actually sell the weight that they talk about?

Too short aint fucked all the hoes he claimed? is he garbage?

You’re caught up too much into it man, just enjoy the music. It’s not that serious. Music is an artistic expression. Just like in Paintings you have Impressionism, realism and all types of isms. Nas chose to go with fantasy impressionism. Just went for something different. That’s art.
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
not the biggest fan of Prodigy…but u cant deny mobb’s music

zshare.net/audio/104773576d4cf081/
HHF Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Pretty good track
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
# TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

@ Rigz

But we werenâ€™t beat upside the head with it for an entire album. From what I remember â€œUndying Loveâ€ was a IWW leftover so it makes sense.

Like I said: Illmatic was his gift and his curse.

Stillmatic brought him back where he was supposed to beâ€¦

^^^^^^

I dunno about it being a leftover…But you just highlighted the difference between me & you..

You take him referencing a few gangsters as him “beating you in the head with mafioso talk”.

I dont look at it like that at all. Him saying some gangster’s names aint gonna make me think any less of the song. If its a dope song, its a dope song. He drops more jewels than he does mafia talk on IWW

And I could say 2nd Childhood > Memory Lane. That dont make Stillmatic better than Illmatic…

I could also say Thief’s Theme > One Time 4 your Mind. That dont make SD > Illmatic…Thats flawed logic

Stillmatic brought him back after The Firm (lukewarm LP), I Am (underwhelming) & Nastrudamus (poor album).

It Was Written still sounds ill today (I’m actually listening to it now).

So do you think Ghostface & Kool G Rap are wack for mafioso rhymes too? Just wondering…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Cosign Jud
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Surely if It Was Written was/is the classic you say it is, it shouldnâ€™t have no problem standing up to any songs in Hip-Hopâ€™s history, let alone his on catalogâ€¦

^^^
I actually hit send before I had a chance to finish that thought. Eye for an Eye isnt as good as Verbal Intercourse, does that lesson the classic stature of Infamous? Live Nigga rap is ill (as you admitted), it doesnt have to be “better” than any other song in hip hop history or even in Nas’ catalog in order to validate It Was Writtens classic status. Same goes for “The Setup”, which isnt even the best story on IWW. Illmatic is classic, but “The Message” is better than “Halftime”. What does that have to do with anything. You’re reaching homie…
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
smh@ ppl slammin it was written as mafioso rap, then turnin around & praisin Reasonable doubt and OB4CL…it was just a phase in rap ppl. even Big did it
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I see me and Rigz was on the same wavelenght (pause)…
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Stillmatic brought him back after The Firm (lukewarm LP), I Am (underwhelming) & Nastrudamus (poor album).

^^^
Yea, I wrote essentialy the same thing, just substitue The Firm with QB’s finest lol
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I’m from the school where if the song is hot, the song is hot.

If you can talk about yo jheri curl and your captain crunch, and make it hot, then I’ll bump it.

A lot of so called hip-hop heads want to limit the artistic freedom. They always want to determine what should be talked about.

They are no different from the movie critics, when they feel like a eddie murphy movie or Adam sandler movie is garbage, because it’s not displaying the so called “art” of acting. I’m like please I enjoy movies such as Norbit and oldschool and Don’t be a menace. \

Why does every movie have to be shakespeare in love, or some indie film movie.
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
that Roots ft. Mos Def,styles p,dice raw go hard(pause)

**….and am I like the only dude who liked the Firm lp?
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
@ Jud & Rigz

See…the topics are in the music. It’s multi-layered. You have all these other things to consider when judging a song, there’s not just “oh dope, beat, he’s staying on beat…that’s a tight song. That’s a classic…” Nah it’s bigger than that. Especially when we saying the word classic. Me using superior songs were an example to just show how “tight” the songs actually are. What level of degree are they actually ranked? (”Thief’s Theme” and “2nd Childhood” aren’t better than “Memory Lane” and “One Time 4 Your Mind” by the way—that’s flawed logic).

No you can’t dismiss an artist’s artistic ability by what they talk about compared to it being actually true, but if there’s a lack of diversity in content (i.e. HHNF) how can an album warrent a classic rating? It’s not plausible.

It is deeper than just “sitting back and enjoying the music” especially if we’re talkin’ bout ratings. Sorry my nigs, I’m a critic, I can’t help it.

By the way, Ghost is my top 5 all time (@ #5), he always comes wit’ it.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
**â€¦.and am I like the only dude who liked the Firm lp?

^^^
It definetly had joints on there. the songs on the end of the album (Deperados, Im Leaving, and Throw you guns up) are lyrical tour de forces. The album starts dope too, its when Foxy has that vibrator (PAUSE) skit, and the 2nd part of the album starts that things get really, really, wack…
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Thiefâ€™s Themeâ€ and â€œ2nd Childhoodâ€ arenâ€™t better than â€œMemory Laneâ€ and â€œOne Time 4 Your Mindâ€ by the wayâ€”thatâ€™s flawed logic).

^^^
Yea, they are. Nostalgia affects bias. Taken on their own, musically and lyrically, they are both much better songs. Memory Lane and OT4YM have been encased in gold by history and the album they dropped on.

No you canâ€™t dismiss an artistâ€™s artistic ability by what they talk about compared to it being actually true, but if thereâ€™s a lack of diversity in content (i.e. HHNF) how can an album warrent a classic rating? Itâ€™s not plausible.

^^^
I agree with that general statment, what I dont agree with is that IWW falls into the category of an ablum with lack of diversity in subject matter.

By the way, Ghost is my top 5 all time (@ #5), he always comes witâ€™ it.

^^^
Now that, I agree with. BIG, Jay, Andre, Nas, Ghost.

*shout out to Cube, G Rap, LL, Ra, Kane and Kris*
*if only Rick could have followed up The Great Adventures properly…*
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
smh@ ppl slammin it was written as mafioso rap, then turnin around & praisin Reasonable doubt and OB4CLâ€¦it was just a phase in rap ppl. even Big did it

===============================================

Those albums are better than It Was Written!!! It ain’t hard to tell. Like I been saying, it don’t even sound nowhere near believable what Nas was trying to pull off. Plus there’s no way you can ignore the shadow Illmatic cast over his career. Ya’ll preach about having “artistic freedom of speech” but that doesn’t shroud the fact that It Was Written came off as movie role than an actual movie composistion. What did ya’ll hear It Was Written first?
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Now that, I agree with. BIG, Jay, Andre, Nas, Ghost.

=================================

WOW. That’s my 5. Just switch Nas and Dre around.

!!!
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
that’s hat!(c)Paris H

zshare.net/audio/10477401d8da7a7f/
Temp Agency aka Young Splashy Splash Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
SOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooWOUP
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I agree with that general statment, what I dont agree with is that IWW falls into the category of an ablum with lack of diversity in subject matter
============================================

I don’t think It Was Written lacks subject matter (”I Gave You Power” for starters) just musically it’s good not great

Still smh @ “Nas Is Coming”

NASTYYYY NAS (opera voice)

GTFOH!!!
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Cool Kids r dope…i said it,what
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
â€Thiefâ€™s Themeâ€ and â€œ2nd Childhoodâ€ arenâ€™t better than â€œMemory Laneâ€ and â€œOne Time 4 Your Mindâ€ by the wayâ€”thatâ€™s flawed logic

^^^^^

They are to me… One Time 4 Your Mind = The song I always skip on Illmatic…Not that its wack, theres just a better song after it…

And if you asked me what song I wanted to hear I’d say 2nd Childhood over Memory Lane…

**********************

>>By the way, Ghost is my top 5 all time (@ #5), he always comes witâ€™ it.

^^^^^^

So let me get this straight. IWW cant be a classic because it beats you in the the head with mafioso talk, but Ghostface is Top 5? Alrighty then….

So…

Are Cuban Linx, 456, Reasonable Doubt, Doe Or Die or Life After Death not classic LPs either?

Cos I sure think they are & they all have the same basic themes…And IWW has more jewels than all of them…

Do you really think Illmatic is the best 10 songs Nas has ever made? I sure dont. That dont mean it aint classic…That logic makes no sense

Ur Da Man >> Halftime.

And who says a LP has to have alot of diversity in content to be classic???

Where did this come from???

Even tho IWW has ALOT of diversity
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
moresickaMC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Cool Kids r dopeâ€¦i said it,what

^^^
I agree, but that new joint “Oscar” is disappointing.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Cuban Linx > It was Written (they’re neck and neck tho, neck and fucking neck…)

It Was Written > Reasonable Doubt
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

Iâ€™m from the school where if the song is hot, the song is hot.

If you can talk about yo jheri curl and your captain crunch, and make it hot, then Iâ€™ll bump it.

^^^^^

Word to Biz Markie - Pickin Boogers…

Tell me that aint classic…
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I would say there are other things to consider if its a consensus close debate about a an album or song.

What lack of diversity was there in it was written? Didn’t all of Reasonable doubts songs display the same topic?

Why are you holding nas to some other standard. Wasn’t cuban linx all about coke and guns?

There can be diversity in a theme, and thats what nas displayed. I mean really what was nas supposed to talk about?

You have to judge a song on its own merit, and not off the one of something else. HHNF is no classic in my opinion but some people hold it as and its a damn good album. They talked about coke all the way through. But a lot of the songs were HOT.

A Hot song is a hot song.

How is diversity of content a criteria, if every song displays greatness. The only thing where it becomes wack if every sounding song sounds the same, or the artist lacks skills to switch it up.

Wasn’t AG lacking diversity in content? He was talking about dealing drugs the whole album. come on fam.

oh and 2nd childhood is greater than all those songs you named.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
just musically itâ€™s good not great

^^^
We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one homey lol. It was Written is Nas’ best produced album.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Those albums are better than It Was Written!!! It ainâ€™t hard to tell. Like I been saying, it donâ€™t even sound nowhere near believable what Nas was trying to pull off. Plus thereâ€™s no way you can ignore the shadow Illmatic cast over his career. Yaâ€™ll preach about having â€œartistic freedom of speechâ€ but that doesnâ€™t shroud the fact that It Was Written came off as movie role than an actual movie composistion.

^^^^^

So…?

You take this shit too seriously.

Do you really think any of these bredahs actually LIVE what they chat about? I honestly couldnt care less…As long as its entertaining & sounds good

Its fucking music.

When David Bowie made a album as Ziggy Stardust with The Spiders From Mars, no-one was complaining…Its MUSIC. IMAGINATION fuels music.

Hip-Hop fans are silly
456 Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
It Was Written > Reasonable Doubt

^RD was the album everybody expected from Nas. It Was Written has gems on it but was RD was realer, more soulful
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
It was written is a classic because it has smoothed out groove flows and beats just like Blueprint.

Illmatic lacked smoothness and grooveness. It was written I can rock to and get my two step on, I can think and groove. Nas displays emotions in It was written.

Like on watch dem niggas, the beat is infectious, it makes you think, gives you insights, you can have sex to it, drink some wine. Its a grown man joint. It displays a story, and gives you a moral to the story.

Then Nas displayed grittiness on I gave you power and Live niggas. I mean Musically and emotionally, nas was at an all time high on it was written. The passion that nas displayed was much greater.

Plus the songs were crafted a lot better.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
@ Rigz

Nooooo…It Was Written isn’t a classic not only because of the extreme themes, musically it’s good not great. (”Nas Is Coming???” What about that monotone beat on “The Setup???” The real message is in his verse on “Life’s A Bitch,” not “The Message.” There’s no jewelz dropped on “AA.” What? And truthfully I don’t see where 4,5,6 falls in all this, Kool G. paved the way but he can’t see any of the said mentioned in songwriting. What’s with the stones thrown @ Illmatic anyway? It’s been placed in Hip-Hop lure for a reason. Like I said, I knew a handful (handful lol) of people who just loved that “creepin-through-the-streets-Italian-silk-cigar-smokin’-money-laundering-kissing-niggas-on -the-cheek-mafioso-ish” but

Do you really think Illmatic is the best 10 songs Nas has ever made?
———————————————————————————
U do realize you’re in the minority with this one. I’m know I’m debating with you, Jud, and b-ease, but even the man himself acknowledges it as his greatest achievement. Where’s It Was Written’s 5 Mics, re-release, spot on critics top ten list? I’m saying we all know the album is good but I can’t sit here and see it be called his “best” cuz it simply just isn’t.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
456 Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
It Was Written > Reasonable Doubt

^RD was the album everybody expected from Nas. It Was Written has gems on it but was RD was realer, more soulful
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
456 Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
It Was Written > Reasonable Doubt

^RD was the album everybody expected from Nas. It Was Written has gems on it but was RD was realer, more soulful

^^^
I’ve heard that said before but never fully understood it. What about Illmatic and Nas’ appearances on Linx and Infamous foreshadowed the content and musicality of Reasonable Doubt?
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Soâ€¦?

You take this shit too seriously.

Do you really think any of these bredahs actually LIVE what they chat about? I honestly couldnt care lessâ€¦As long as its entertaining & sounds good

Its fucking music.

When David Bowie made a album as Ziggy Stardust with The Spiders From Mars, no-one was complainingâ€¦Its MUSIC. IMAGINATION fuels music.

Hip-Hop fans are silly

^^

I mean Really. I’m like yo its music, this shit is no life lesson. Rap fans always want judge a nigga on his life through the music, let the music itself breathe.

Wow, thats why the wu was influential, they injected fantasy with the kung-fu, and brought beats and rhymes. Everything doesnt have to be about real life.

Some cats need to chill and not get so caught up in a rapper’s personal live and let the music speak for itself.
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I canâ€™t even say it was writerâ€™s block because I didnâ€™t write any of the Hip-Hop Weeklyâ€™s. No piece of paper exists that says â€œHip-Hop Weeklyâ€ on it.
.
.
.
This summer, Iâ€™m thinking about releasing The Dream Tapes because I sleep, man, and this is real. I sleep and I dream verses, hooks and song ideas. I keep a recorder by my dresser so when I get up in the middle of the night, sometimes I remember the verses that I dreamt and I put them on the recorder. Some of them are more abstract because Iâ€™m dreaming, obviously, but I do this in my sleep!
.
.
Q.How do you put your songs together?

The Dream Tapes isnâ€™t going to show my main process. Thatâ€™s just some weird shit that I never viewed would come out. Iâ€™ve used lines in the Hip-Hop Weeklyâ€™s that I dreamt. I was never going to make that a real thing. Since Iâ€™m on the go so much, I construct all my verses in my mind in my car because I gotta go here and I gotta go there and I have meetings because Iâ€™m on the business side now. Iâ€™m really hands-on and Iâ€™m micro-managing my career.

This is what happens now, dog. As soon as I get in the song, I start thinking of songs and of rhymes because Iâ€™ve been doing that for the last year and a half, where Iâ€™ve really been busy and on the go. Itâ€™s almost like Iâ€™ve been brainwashed to where I canâ€™t even write a rhyme anymore. I canâ€™t even do it! I have to jump in the car and thatâ€™s the main process right now, is just jumping in the car, putting some instrumentals on and just riding out.

^^
(c) Crooked
k-rob aka guy brewer Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
# RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Seraniâ€™s on this song?????

Wow.

Noyd knows about Serani?

I wonder if Deseca did this beat
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
damn am surprised you knew about serani or daseca, bip up that one!!
no shots.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
TC,

Nobody said Illmatic isn’t a classic, its just so many people have been TOLD that illmatic was a classic and it was written wasnt because the critics were dissapointed cause nas talked about mafioso shit.

A lot of us just think It was written sounds better and not because of what the source magazine said.

Most people Only say illmatic is a classic cause a few people said it was in a magazine board room. And A LOT of people have never heard it was written only because of critics.

Most people say illmatic is his best album cause of some article or magazine.
k-rob aka guy brewer Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
if serani and daseca start doing hiphop track there is gonna be a problem, serani is like akon with the hook/chorus and he mad talented with the pen.
them dudes be having the ill beats, i hope to see more of this
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Soâ€¦?

You take this shit too seriously.

Do you really think any of these bredahs actually LIVE what they chat about? I honestly couldnt care lessâ€¦As long as its entertaining & sounds good

Its fucking music.
==============================================
As long as its entertaining & sounds good

That’s where we differ homie. That’s not good enough. There’s criteria to this shit. If you’re gonna tell me something is better, no question, no debate, you gotta be willin’ to back up those statements. If something being good and entertaining, then you just increased the classic Hip-Hip album category by like 3000%

And Hip-Hop fans are not silly, they’re passionate (like all the MCs used to be). That’s what makes it one of the most profound genre’s in music. That’s why MCs do have to some of “realness” to them. I never discredited Nas’ or any other rappers artistic expression. That was never the basis of my argument.

@ Jud

I feel you on all those It Was Written songs and the smoothness of it, but if an alien came down from Mars and wanted to know what Hip-Hop sounded like, Illmatic would serve as much better example.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
@ Jud

I don’t think anyone actually skipped It Was Written cuz what they heard (I think it’s actually his highest selling album: the magic from Illmatic being a marketing tool) but after hearing him rock cliche-free rhymes on “The World Is Yours” and “It Ain’t Hard To Tell,” shit like “Shootouts” and “Affirmative Action” wasn’t quite what they were expecting.

Rightfully so. But if its your fav, it’s your fav, but if you rocked the hell outta It Was Written before Illmatic, I’m not surprised of your angle.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
TC

What your saying is stupid. I aint never said Illmatic aint nice. Stop trying to be Reed Richards. Yeah Illmatic is maybe Nas’ greatest album. That dont mean all of his BEST SONGS EVER are on that album. Thats a dumb outlook…Its his best COLLECTION of songs.

But like I said: Ur Da Man >>> Halftime. EASILY.

That dont mean Stillmatic >Illmatic. Thats two different arguments.

If you think The Setup aint ill, I dont know what to tell you honestly…And I dont know what “AA” is either…

Reasonable Doubt is my fav Jay LP, but I aint gonna say thats the best songs jays EVER made. That would be stupid. Because, Where I’m From>Cashmere Thoughts. That doesnt equate to Vol.1 > RD.

If you dont understand this, you shouldnt really call urself a critic of music.

Whats Going on is Marvins best LP…Does that mean Sexual Healing cant be better than a song on that album WGO? Your logic isnt logical at all…

*******************

>>Whereâ€™s It Was Writtenâ€™s 5 Mics, re-release, spot on critics top ten list?

^^^^^^

Fuck alla that. I aint no sheep. People shitted on Jesus when he was on Earth. Stop following.

I aint talking about the media’s opinion. I’m talking about MY opinion
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
And I dont know what â€œAAâ€ is eitherâ€¦

^^^
Affirmative Action
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
# k-rob aka guy brewer Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pm

# RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Seraniâ€™s on this song?????

Wow.

Noyd knows about Serani?

I wonder if Deseca did this beat
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
damn am surprised you knew about serani or daseca, bip up that one!!
no shots.

^^^^^^^

I’m Jamaican fam
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
No I listened to Illmatic first, but It was written just sounds better. At the time Illmatic was some holy grail.

Illmatic is too mystical= Abe Lincoln…Oh he freed the slaves, when actually it didnt.

Illmatic is just a great album and it was written is too, over time it was written was sounding a lot more fresher.

I think it serves purpose to go back over time and re listen to the music. We call albums classics to fast these days.

But yeah to each his own.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Yeah Illmatic is maybe Nasâ€™ greatest album.
=============================

Umm…then what are we arguing about sir? If I think Illmatic is his best album, then obviously I feel that’s the best group of songs he released. You’re trying to pick through his discog and make some sort of greatest hits. What are you doing?

>>Whereâ€™s It Was Writtenâ€™s 5 Mics, re-release, spot on critics top ten list?

^^^^^^

I’m just saying, there’s alot more people who think like me.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
I think itâ€™s actually his highest selling album: the magic from Illmatic being a marketing tool

^^^^

…Illmatic just about went gold…

Yeah, ILLMATIC made It Was Written go 2X plat…

It wasnt the guest appearance from Lauryn Hill (who just sold 6 million) on his inspirational first single huh…?

SMH
456 Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Iâ€™ve heard that said before but never fully understood it. What about Illmatic and Nasâ€™ appearances on Linx and Infamous foreshadowed the content and musicality of Reasonable Doubt?

^ even if true, that dont make it was writen a better overall album than RD. reasonable doubt gave you the interior dialogue that nas could never fully offer. his eye for detail always lacked the internal depth that jay set RD apart.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
And Serani is on Noyd’s latest LP Illustrious.

Check it out. It’s solid.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Youâ€™re trying to pick through his discog and make some sort of greatest hits. What are you doing?

^^^^^

NO.

You started picking apart songs…Songs never came out of my mouth…

I think It Was Written is classic & on par with Illmatic…

Then you say it cant be, because Shootouts isnt better than Undying Love…Makes no sense…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
U from yard K-Rob?
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
@ Rigz

If Illmatic is revered by most as Nas greatest achievement and as Jud put it: “on some holy grail” ish, why wouldn’t that generate hype for your next product. Why is everyone anticipating Carter3 when the 2nd one barely went plat? There’s hype circulating around the rapper so there next project is anticipated.

Shake your head up and down this time.
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
@ Jud

I feel you on all those It Was Written songs and the smoothness of it, but if an alien came down from Mars and wanted to know what Hip-Hop sounded like, Illmatic would serve as much better example.

^^

This makes no sense, and how would it make it a better example cause of aliens?

None of your arguments have been about the music, its all been about nas’ transition of certain topics and basically his life.

Can you make a musical argument why Illmatic is better than it was written?
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
# TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

@ Rigz

If Illmatic is revered by most as Nas greatest achievement and as Jud put it: â€œon some holy grailâ€ ish, why wouldnâ€™t that generate hype for your next product. Why is everyone anticipating Carter3 when the 2nd one barely went plat? Thereâ€™s hype circulating around the rapper so there next project is anticipated.

Shake your head up and down this time.

^^

Illmatic is not considered or revered as nas’ greatest achievments because of the musicality or the rhyme dexterior. Its considered that because it brought in something new, it was totally different. Nas brought something fresh into the game. A nas was never seen nor heard in hip hop history, and people were taken back by this phenom.

You cannot judge music when it first comes out because all elements play into factor. Ex.

When HHID came out, A whole bunch of people and people on this site were saying its a classic, and people were hyping it up so much than they were saying man Nas>jay-z when a few days ago everybody was clowning nas. Hip hop fans are so fickle and unpredictable.

We never hear people judge Rock artists on what they do in their personal lives.

Mozart and Beethoven shouldn’t even be great because of their personal lives.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
@ Jud

So you’re saying beats by Large Pro, Premo, and Q-Tip don’t sound like just like a Hip-Hop purists sweetest dreams? Nothing overcalculated or fancy, no pop song samples, just 808 kicks, horns, and transistional basslines. And not to the point where it sounds like some old-school boom-bap ish. Just…pure. Old fashioned Hip-Hop. So with that being said, if someone foreign to the sound of Hip-Hop (alien) wanted to know what it sounded like, this would possibly be the go-to album. Is it the best album of all-time and all that jazz…that’s debatable, but it’s cliche-free aura can not be denied.
Plug Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
ian Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Peep the title of 4 of the last 6 posts on Nah Right:

- Big Noyd ft. CNN - Weed, Guns, Girls & Money

- Lloyd Banks - Crack & Money Rules The World

- Video: Speedknot Mobstaz ft. Twista - Money To Blow

- Video: Dame Grease ft. E-Nasty - Coke Talk (Live)

And people wonder why fans arenâ€™t buying/as interested in hip hop as they used to be?!! Sh-t is getting wild redundant/boringâ€¦.
—————-
Kinda cosign.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
@ Rigz

If Illmatic is revered by most as Nas greatest achievement and as Jud put it: â€œon some holy grailâ€ ish, why wouldnâ€™t that generate hype for your next product. Why is everyone anticipating Carter3 when the 2nd one barely went plat? Thereâ€™s hype circulating around the rapper so there next project is anticipated.

Shake your head up and down this time.

^^^^^^^^^^

Carter II went double platnium QUICKLY.

Illmatic went wood.

Thats number 1.

Number 2, this theory doesnt hold up. To jump from wood to DOUBLE Platnium is a BIG leap. Even Nas said it was propelled by (a member of) The Fugees appearing on his LP…Remember in 96, Fugees were the biggest group IN THE WORLD. And they’re on his LP…

The dudes that was gonna buy his LP because of Illmatic bootlegged it…Thats why it took almost TEN YEARS for Illmatic to go platnium (true stories. its the most bootlegged shit EVER).

My aunties bought his album because Lauryn was on his single, not because Illmatic was a classic…

It Was Written made Nas into a SUPERSTAR, not Illmatic.

The same way how Vol.2 mad Jay into a superstar.

IWW gained a whole new demographic who didnt know who “Nasty” Nas was…
moresickaMC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Crooked I i officially the sickest rapper alive, imo
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
@ Jud

That’s why you gotta know what you’re dealing with when it comes to be people’s opinions. I never said HHID was classic, but I still stand by the fact that its a damn good album.

You cannot judge music when it first comes out because all elements play into factor.
====================================
Why not? We do it all the time. You gotta consider the potential impact and staying power of the songs. Is the tracklisting cohesive? Is the material original? What about the production? Does it grow tiresome @ the 3 minute mark or does it mesh well with the lyrics? The musical aspect of Illmatic is why I consider it one of the best (and Nas’ best) albums of alltime. And the fact that it surprised so many people upon first listen is an example of impact that factors into an album’s rating. The Source gave it 5 Mics upon initial review and everything they said about it still holds weight to this day. It’s all opinionated and inferences but I’m just saying…
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
@ Rigz

Carter 2 still isn’t double platinum.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
No Wu-Tang LP (collectively or solo) got 5 Mics…Not even in the golden 93-97 run…

Thats maaaaaddddd suspect…

I swear it was Miss Info that reviewed Illmatic, was it not…?

I got a box of old sources (dating back to the thin ones with the old logo)…I’m gonna pull em out & check one day…
k-rob aka guy brewer Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
# RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

U from yard K-Rob?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
st. elizabeth str8, but got fam all over.kind of vex right now becaus me an my peeps going to sumfest and i heard thet red stripe just pulled out sponsorship.
Flatnush all day over here fam
Plug Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Carter 2 was a great album. It was at that point where he earned to be in consideration for one of the greatest rappers alive
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
@ Rigz

Carter 2 still isnâ€™t double platinum.

^^^^^^

What planet YOU living on????

Carter II went 2X Plat. YEEEEAAAAAARRRRRSSSSS ago….

Word to The Come Up DVD with Wayne thanking all his fans on some humble shit
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
36 Chambers and Cuban Linx got 5 Mics (re-rated).

Miss Info did review Illmatic
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
RIGZ Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
No Wu-Tang LP (collectively or solo) got 5 Micsâ€¦Not even in the golden 93-97 runâ€¦

Thats maaaaaddddd suspectâ€¦

I swear it was Miss Info that reviewed Illmatic, was it notâ€¦?

I got a box of old sources (dating back to the thin ones with the old logo)â€¦Iâ€™m gonna pull em out & check one dayâ€¦

^^^
Nope, no 5 mics for Wu, just a 4.5 for Cuban Linx and 36 and (I belive) 4’s for Liquid Swords and Ironman.

And yeah, it was Miss Info on the Illmatic review. Which really makes you wonder, how old is that chick?? Gotta be running up on 40, 35 at the minimum.
farsideoff Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Tha Carter III’s hype has nothing to do with tha Carter II’s album sales and everything to do with Wayne’s mixtapes and guest verses. A lot less people would care about Carter III if it weren’t for DD3 and “We Takin’ Over.”
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
k-rob aka guy brewer Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
# RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

U from yard K-Rob?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
st. elizabeth str8, but got fam all over.kind of vex right now becaus me an my peeps going to sumfest and i heard thet red stripe just pulled out sponsorship.
Flatnush all day over here fam

^^^^^^^

Country yute like me?

BOOM BANG! CONNEK!

Mans from St.Thomas / Westmoreland.

Yardies runnin Nah Right right now. U dunn kno
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
36 Chambers and Cuban Linx got 5 Mics (re-rated).

^^^
no shots, but re-rating is bullshit. Fuckers either need to stand by original reviews or admit mistakes, but no changing the grade!
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I dont think Carter II went double Rigz…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
36 Chambers and Cuban Linx got 5 Mics (re-rated).

^^^^^

LOL.

Re-ratings dont count.

By that time, the mics was suspect.

“I pays for it like the mics in The Source” (c) Dilla
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
b-ease Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I dont think Carter II went double Rigzâ€¦

^^^^^

It sure did…I’m gonna find a way to check…

I dont think Wayne would get away with lying all this time
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
@ b-ease

I’d rather em’ get right than keep it wrong.

Supreme Clientele and Bulletproof Wallets received 4.5
Jud Buechler Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Why is Ms. info judging albums like illmatic, she has no clue about street life? or hip-hop. Her parents are prolly disowning her for being in a radio station. She’s supposed to be a neurogsurgeon. or a zoologist.

This is what I’m saying, its these so called nerds judging hip-hop instead of real niggas in the streets.

Ms. info is only good for tabloid hip-hop…..smh.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Coming for No. 119 this week is Lil’ Wayne. The former Hot Boy has the bottom one-twenty on fire this week, slashing the southern competition down by 9,537 discs. The self-proclaimed “Kobe Bryant of hip-hop” is sitting in the sidelines this week, but has still moved 930,909 units thus far.

^^^
This is from sohh.com May 12, right before Wayne dropped out of the top 200. Maybe worldwide, but US, Wayne JUST hit plat.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
His â€œTha Carter IIâ€ album, released in 2005, has sold about 2 million copies worldwide. He recently was voted â€œHottest MC in the Gameâ€ by a panel at MTV.

^^^^^

Told ya so

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/categories/lil-wayne/

I dunno what this website is, so dont ask me
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Yeah, I wasnt just counting America

I dont live in America…

I know he went double within a 12 months worldwide
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
And fuck a 5 Mics.

If I followed that I’d think Stillmatic is better than Ironman…Or that Lil Kim albums better than Reasonable Doubt.

Ridiculous
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Supreme Clientele and Bulletproof Wallets received 4.5

^^^
Yea, i remember, the joint with Ghost and RZA is still one of my fav source covers. only reason i didnt bring em up was cause rigz said (93-97)
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
@ Jud

But if you got niggas in the street reviewing albums, the outcomes are gonna be drastically different—especially nowadays. Niggas be listening to MIXTAPES, so when these rappers make these whole-ass, so-called albums, with nare, nada, concept, niggas would be like “it ain’t that best, but I fux wit’ it”

Non-cypher.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Jud,

Define a “real nigga” on the streets.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I’ll take Stillmatic over Ironman. That’s not that big of a deal, Supreme Clientele, and Bulletproof Wallets…iunnnoooo….
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I’m bout to smoke a L and listen to Cuban Linx within the next half hour or so…need that in my life.

Cuban Linx and Ironman, the Godfather I and II of this rap shit…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
b-ease Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Supreme Clientele and Bulletproof Wallets received 4.5

^^^
Yea, i remember, the joint with Ghost and RZA is still one of my fav source covers. only reason i didnt bring em up was cause rigz said (93-97)

^^^^^^

Yeah I got that one…

That actually had me hyped thinking the Wu was REALLY returning to glory…

RZA’s interview had me gassed. I bought the Ghost Dog soundtrack (which was actually alright) on the strength of that interview…

*has flashback*

“Oh shit, they’re starting Wu-Electronics!”

2008, no Wu-Electronics. Fuckers
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
TC Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Iâ€™ll take Stillmatic over Ironman.

^^^^

NO.

WAY.

NOT.

EVER.

EVER.

EVER.

EVER.

EVER.

WOULD.

I.

EVER.

PLAY.

STILLMATIC.

OVER.

IRONMAN.

NOT.

EVER.

ETC.
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Biggie > _____

All other chat is irrelevant.

Lemme give the Gooner boys a little shout out, 3rd consecutive season with no silverware. Dem manz doin big tings at the Emirates.

Ties Tottenham scarf round face Sway Dasofo stylee.
TC Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I love Ironman but the classic songs really overshadow the solid ones. I don’t think I’ve listened to “Marvel” in years…

*grabs iPod*
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Even thinking about ranking Stillmatic over Supreme Clintele is blashemous enough to warrant a couple lighting bolts in one’s general vicinity.

The original Bulletproof Wallets (with the Sun, Watch, original Flowers, and good sequence) was crazy, the retail…disappointing. Not wack, but disappointing.

Stillmatic over Ironman, more plasible than the Supreme Clintele, but I’m still gonna have to give that one the big no-sign…
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
2008, no Wu-Electronics. Fuckers

^^^
lol
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
EnglandRepresent Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Biggie > _____

All other chat is irrelevant.

Lemme give the Gooner boys a little shout out, 3rd consecutive season with no silverware. Dem manz doin big tings at the Emirates.

Ties Tottenham scarf round face Sway Dasofo stylee.

^^^^^^^^

Fuck you Eng lol.

London >>>> The Outback
foekist Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
anybody found a audio for the busta incident at the listening party?
HHF Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Speaking of WU, I just saw Ghostface live in concert last night. That was one helluva show. IF my camera didnt act up on me, I woulda had some pictures.
HHF Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
You almost forget how many hits the Wu has till you go to a concert and you end up jumping around like a fool for a couple of hours straight
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
The Education Of Sonny Carson skits on Ironman >>> Most albums

And Stillmatics a great album. But next to Ironman it looks SUPER average.

Just my opinion.
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
HHF Says:

April 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Speaking of WU, I just saw Ghostface live in concert last night. That was one helluva show. IF my camera didnt act up on me, I woulda had some pictures.

^^^
What albums was he drawing from? I caught an abbreviated set at HU homecoming a couple of years ago, and he did a lot of Supreme Clintele, couple Cubans, and Holla from Pretty Ton? Is the set real Fishscale heavy (I imagine it would be)??
b-ease Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I’ll put trademarks around your fuckin EYE!!
HHF Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
At this show, Id say it was pretty even. He also had a set where they played random Wu hits from ODB or whoeever and make the crowd “sing along”

Gotta head out. Peace.
foekist Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
LMAO

tinyurl.com/4u74jx
Plug Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Pulsating Lights and Sounds surrounds spirits
Bio Oral Beats, layered underneath lyrics
250 thousand cycles per second, for Dolphin hearing
The Electrical Optical Coupling Gear is effective,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzd0aKTWlY&feature=user
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
In a short matter of time I’ll be in bed with a dime
Exotic satin sheets all purple and lime
Smash the gash so hard that I stop time
Safe to say when I’m in a strumpet I handles mine
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
^^Am I the greatest rapper alive?

Quite possibly.
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
At the very least I’m better than Wayne
foekist Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
“scooby snack Jurassic plastic ass booby trap…”

Is ghost saying that someone tried to set him up using an old technique?
Jamz Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
The arrival…
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Where the fuck has everyone gone? Bollocks to the lot of youse, how in fuck’s name am I gonna last through a whole Monday mornin with a vicious hangover without any Nahggers to banter with. Bollocks.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
# foekist Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

â€œscooby snack Jurassic plastic ass booby trapâ€¦â€

Is ghost saying that someone tried to set him up using an old technique?

^^^^^^

Trying to figure out what Ghost is saying on SC (ESPECIALLY Nutmeg) is a lost cause

“I dont even know what some of the shit means myself nahmean? Shit dont have to make sense all the time nahmean? As long as it sounds fly & shit, thats all that matters…I like to pop off fly shit…Alot of the shit just sounds fly”

Ghost has said this same statement (worded differently on seperate occassions) MANY times…

And bredahs try to tell me you cant make classics making no sense…
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Whats good Eng?
E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Got a bisexual nine, a Muslim Mac
Hebrew .45 and a Christian gat
Baptist Uzi and a Catholic shotie
so I gun through your soul, kidnap your body
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Whats good Rigga?

I’m bored as fuck and feel like death. I need to stop drinkin but it’s in a London blud’s blood to get lashed.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
# EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

Whats good Rigga?

Iâ€™m bored as fuck and feel like death. I need to stop drinkin but itâ€™s in a London bludâ€™s blood to get lashed.

^^^^^

Drinking away my pain of a trophy-less season (AGAIN)

But I feel you about getting lashed. In our blood…True stories…lol…

you bringing Binge Drinking out there Eng?

I swear we’re the worst in the world…I bet your out there starting pub-brawls & shit…

Importing hooliganism lol
E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
To tell you the truth, I donâ€™t like Kia. I think he is sweet and has some feminine ways. He probably gets fucked in the ass!

murderdog.com/feb_2008/Lord_Infamous.htm
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Drinking away my pain of a trophy-less season (AGAIN)

But I feel you about getting lashed. In our bloodâ€¦True storiesâ€¦lolâ€¦

you bringing Binge Drinking out there Eng?

I swear weâ€™re the worst in the worldâ€¦I bet your out there starting pub-brawls & shitâ€¦

Importing hooliganism lol

^^Nothing wrong with a bit of hooliganism. lol. I’ve been known to confront a Gooner in the street. But out here all the folk wearin Gooner shirts are Asians. Or paedophiles. And they don’t get the banter. Nah but real talk, I ain’t been in one fight out here and in the LDN you’re bound to get scrappin at least once a fortnight, you can’t avoid it. So it’s a nice change, too much drama goin on in London Town. I told you my manz got knifed in the face in a pub in North London recently?! Crazy days.
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Nothing wrong with a bit of hooliganism. lol. Iâ€™ve been known to confront a Gooner in the street. But out here all the folk wearin Gooner shirts are Asians. Or paedophiles. And they donâ€™t get the banter. Nah but real talk, I ainâ€™t been in one fight out here and in the LDN youâ€™re bound to get scrappin at least once a fortnight, you canâ€™t avoid it. So itâ€™s a nice change, too much drama goin on in London Town. I told you my manz got knifed in the face in a pub in North London recently?! Crazy days.

^^^^

Yeah Londons getting crazier by the minute…the other day a couple school kids joy-riding ran over two feds…When they finally got stopped, turns out they had straps in the car! These kids are wild…

And yeah, fights are inevitable in LDN…the streets are even nuttier since they extended the alcohol license…

I aint complaining tho. I aint a pub guy, butt at least I can buy Dragons & Guiness 24/7 now! Its amazing
RIGZ Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
>>out here all the folk wearin Gooner shirts are Asians. Or paedophiles. And they donâ€™t get the banter.

^^^^

Wow, SMH & LOL.

At the same time

lol
EnglandRepresent Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Are you a Guinness fan Rigga? Don’t mind a Guinness myself but what I really miss is proper beer. I haven’t had a good pint of Adnam’s Broadside and a packet of Walker’s Cheese and Onion crisps for a minute. Broadside + Walker’s Cheese and Onion crisps = so hip-hop.

Kids with burners?? Say what? If they got Kevlar lined school uniforms I ain’t surprised.

Does the Ministry (of Sound) still run hip-hop nights? I remember seein K-lash do ‘Murda’ at the Ministry and do a knockin set.
RIGZ Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 12:03 am
They dont have Walker crisps over there??? Wow. What the fuck do those Aussies snack on?

I cant imagine life without Walkers…

And yeah, I’m a Guiness Stout, Dragon’s Stout, Red Stripe man (In other words a YARDIE)…

And Ministry just opened back up not too long ago..They shut it down for a bit cos they found a body behind the speakers (seriously). Plus theres been like a million stabbings / shootings…

Nowadays, they dont hold much hip-hop nights there, too much gunshots…Matta fact, there aint that much GOOD strictly hip-hop jams anywhere anymore…They’re falling like flies
WizOfOz Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Someoone give Capone a Vocoder, shit would be hilarious. Nah lets hope that hook right there’s as close to singin as we get on a CNN/Noyd track. Sometimes predictable is a good thing and CNN n the QB set are testament to that.
WizOfOz Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 12:38 am
@TC
Stillmatic over IRONMAN!???? You’ve got to be fucking jokin. Cosign RIGZ
IRONMAN>>>>>>>Still
And WTF is goin on with the youngns in London right now, shits on the cover of TIME. Life’s cheap… wasn’t that drastic like 5 years ago

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