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Joell Ortiz - 90’s Free Agent Freestyle

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137 Responses to “Joell Ortiz - 90’s Free Agent Freestyle”

chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
the coooooooooool
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
thank God es got rid of the fucking gay barber pic
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Brooklyn stand THE FUCK UP
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
damn, es killed that post with the quickness.

Plus in all seriousness

Joel Ortiz>Mega
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
joell has spit to him

not as much as lu but he’s nicer than 80% of these cats
landLORD Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
… Joell Ortiz = a fat Eskay …
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Joel got flow, wordplay, and swag mega never had.
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
actually in some ways this photo is gay too b/c this nucca wearing flourescent green and lookin at me funny
$***M-ROC***$ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
rice & peas > joell ortiz
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
So he’s a Free Agent then im guessing?

who he gonna sign to?
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
holy shit… this is ridiculous..
$***M-ROC***$ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
toes with cheese > joell ortiz
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Paperstacker Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Joel got flow, wordplay, and swag mega never had.

^^^
damn…lol…you must really hate Cormega or something…
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Give US us Free like Sinke
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Damn I love this beat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIx_L757_A
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
# BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

Well Rigz.. if no one is tellin you how mega isnt successful..

Tell us how he is..

Because that point eludes me

^^^

-He owns ALL of his publishing
-Puts out the music HE wants
-World renown / respected artist
-Two critically acclaimed albums
-All of heâ€™s solo LPs cleared 100,000+ (INDEPENDENT MONEY with no promo)
-If you do the MATH, heâ€™s probably made more money than most artists on majors
-Went independent & made it work BEFORE it was popular (Landspeed days, not Koch)
-He was one of the ONLY â€œstreetâ€ independent NYC acts charting in 2001-2003 (with NO promotion)
-Has a nice, loyal fanbase (who BUY his music)
-He still sells records & has NEVER released an album on a major
-Can still tour & release records 12 years in the game
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
however… even though this shit is dope..

this is the problem with ny rap.
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
if you’re nice nobody’s going to sign you (c) buddens and joell

in 2008 if you’re nice, it’s a liability

fuck 2008
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
@ BKScribe

wordâ€¦okâ€¦.
I think Foxy did her thang on that track tooâ€¦ she defintely held her ownâ€¦.

what u think of that cuban linx & remy diss song posted today?â€¦ i liked that shitâ€¦
remy can hold her own, i gotta admit thatâ€¦. kinda like foxy used to.
But i thought the song was good
eskay Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I don’t wanna live in a world where niggas don’t respect Mega
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
RIGZ brings up some good points
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
@ Rigz.. dayum… u should get mega on a track.. cost ya 1000 pounds
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
BKScribe Says:

@ Rigz.. dayumâ€¦ u should get mega on a track.. cost ya 1000 pounds

^^^^^
lmao!!!!

in all seriousness Mega is the truth…
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
eskay Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I donâ€™t wanna live in a world where niggas donâ€™t respect Mega

^

lol hajji is on his emo shit
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Brooklyn Bullshit>Half of megas career
eskay Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
no Rey
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Rigz.. dayumâ€¦ u should get mega on a track.. cost ya 1000 pounds

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

$2000 for mega and 1 track? Overestimate.
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I suspect this caused the new post…

eskay Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
>>lol whenever 2x says post something, es posts it

hell no

LOLOL…
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
eskay Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I donâ€™t wanna live in a world where niggas donâ€™t respect Mega

^^^LMAO
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
if Nas was more of a leader like Jay, Cormega would as known as Bleek or Beans , or even a bigger star….

but Nas left everybody behind

-Jungle
-Horse
-Mega
-Nature
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
# Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

Rigz.. dayumâ€¦ u should get mega on a track.. cost ya 1000 pounds

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

$2000 for mega and 1 track? Overestimate.

^Cold bloodedddd (c) chapelle as rick james
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
“I been working on cars for ’bout 15 years, but I been sanging all my life!! There’s one thing I know more than cars and that’s music….DON’T CHA NO NO GOOD???” - Elroy Preston
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
â€¦ Joell Ortiz = a fat Eskay â€¦

->LOLOLOL….
landLORD Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
… Cormega is not wack … he’s just slighty above average …
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
# Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

if Nas was more of a leader like Jay, Cormega would as known as Bleek or Beans , or even a bigger starâ€¦.

but Nas left everybody behind

-Jungle
-Horse
-Mega
-Nature

^ Regardless of rain or snow.. sleet or hail… i kick street tales… chokin niggaz like im spreewell.. - Nature

As for nas leavin cats behind.. who knows what went down.. on the one hand you can’t hold someones hand thru shit forever… on the other hand.. if a rapper aspires to be the bleek to nas’ jay… they had no business rappin in the first place
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
swear to God if fif wakes up tomorrow and says “nas is the nicest rapper alive”, 2x is going to be swingin on dude’s nuts like tarzan on some “i told yall nas was the nicest, who started this queens shit huh, who, who”

swear to God, swear to God, swear to God the stannery is like…2x is the fucking Gold medalist, no steroids, just straight Gold medals

YOU EMBARASS YOURSELF! (c) knocked up
Digital scales Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
she love it when your paper thick..it look like you making it…in and out the town fresh…audi r8ing it..freakfest…southbeach…mari gras..taping it..in the club balling on my partyhard laker shit (C) llyod banks

that ”good to me” shit is one of the dopest on the mixtape
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Cormega is actually pretty dope, i think yall are not giving him credit because of the laid back flow. It cant all be rah rah
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
and Cormega got fucked over by Nas’s boy Steve Stoute about that “Firm” shit with Nature…
and even had problems with Violator…
he talked about it on of them DVDs…
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
# BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

@ Rigz.. dayumâ€¦ u should get mega on a track.. cost ya 1000 pounds

^^^^

LOL.

I just give credit where credit is due man…

I can understand saying you dont LIKE Mega, but shitting on his career is ridiculous…He’s done alot…

He’s had a great career…He just hasnt had a “Lights, Camera, Action” career…
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
plus mega has history in the game, i don’t want to live in a world of hunger and starvation and where people disrespect the elders of the game
Digital scales Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
if Nas was more of a leader like Jay,
^^
call that nigga a leader?? come on now, please stop with this hypothetical hiphop garbage ya niggas talk 80% of the fucking time
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
â€¦ Joell Ortiz = a fat Eskay â€¦

^^^www.instantrimshot.com/
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
i was jus jokin bout mega… personally i dont think about his career either way.
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Joell Ortiz is a NICE MC but how do you market someone like him? If skills paid the bills, this would be a simple question. The kcufed up part is the “85ers” ain’t checkin’ for him. He SHOULD pull a Fugees and remake a familiar pop jawn to draw them in since the “mixtape” route has been raped, burned and buried. People need to hear his cat.
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
plus mega has history in the game, i donâ€™t want to live in a world of hunger and starvation and where people disrespect the elders of the game

^^^^^^^^^^^

Doesn’t everyone whos been in the game for that long
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
in 2008 it is possible to be too nice for your own good
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
@ Diggy

come on now, please stop with this hypothetical hiphop garbage ya niggas talk 80% of the fucking time

^^^
ok, Jay not the best example, but damn he did put some of his peeps on: bleek, beans, free, etc

Nas didn’t do nothing for his crew…
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Da PartyStarter Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Joell Ortiz is a NICE MC but how do you market someone like him?

^

just put out the fucking album

it doesn’t matter if the first shit doesn’t go gold

did it hurt lupe??

just drop a fucking album

all these cats got like 50 songs worth of shit

n*gga like joell could drop a album yesterday

just do a little promotion and let the market react

these labels is scurred and run by a bunch of bitches
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Like JOel is nice, but sadly in this rap climate I cant see dude selling or achieveing much. It doesn’t even matter, making money off rap today and selling records as a new rapper requires a specific resume and qualifications.
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
# Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

Nas didnâ€™t do nothing for his crewâ€¦

^ he gave his body guard a verse and video shine on a single to the compilation album.. that was a look.. and.. if i remember correctly..

Nas brought Fiddy on the I Am tour to open for him..

50 said he learned a lot from that experience.
That Man Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Top 5 NBA guards

Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
D-Wade
T-Mac (when he’s healthy)
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Cormega career right now > Joell Ortiz future career
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
lupe and joel are very different.. By these industry standars lupe is more marketable.
KLO Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
This nigga’s a problem
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
BKScribe Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
# Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

Nas didnâ€™t do nothing for his crewâ€¦

^ he gave his body guard a verse and video shine on a single to the compilation album.. that was a look.. and.. if i remember correctly..

Nas brought Fiddy on the I Am tour to open for him..

50 said he learned a lot from that experience.

^^^^^^^^^^^

That is the truth……..
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
# Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

lupe and joel are very different.. By these industry standars lupe is more marketable.

^^ fidduck the industry
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
ok, Jay not the best example, but damn he did put some of his peeps on: bleek, beans, free, etc

Nas didnâ€™t do nothing for his crewâ€¦

>>The way i see it, jay was a bigger commerical success ergo his label blew up bigger ergo everybody that was connected to his label (from OG Juan to Jim Jones) ate off it.

If you were on /affiliated to the ROC around that period and didn’t succeed (no peedi or Oschino), you just didn’t want it, didn’t have it or didn’t care to get it enough. Cuz shit was going down…
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYp2Aloz-uE&feature=bz302
That Man Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
# chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

joell has spit to him

not as much as lu but heâ€™s nicer than 80% of these cats

^^
chea is lupe for life.

lol
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
fidduck the industry

^^^^^^^^^^

cosign
Digital scales Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
ima mega fan, but all that shit he talk about nas is corny…that shit aint hiphop, he wanted more shine for wat he put in on Illmatic he felt like he didnt get enough credit and everybody bigging up nas and nobody showing him that same type of love ever putting him on that same type of level and it made him bitter, he was locked up during the time too, i could be wrong i heard this way back in the day….

niggas is mad at nas for not starting no real crew, so what, he do music, he’s basically just an mc…yeah jayz had a strong crew, put a bunch of niggas on, but a real crew? thats your crew thats your people? nahh jayz was a ceo a business man and these were his artists, once he moved on to bigger and better he did him with no problem no looking back, why?? cause those were just his artists, dame at the end of the day was just a partner…..

ya wont hear me tho
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Paperstacker Says:

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYp2Aloz-uE&feature=bz302

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

hahahahahahahhhahhahaha
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
^

just put out the fucking album

^^^
If the point is to get heard, then he already won. But if the point is to make some loot, maybe he should take a page out of Mega’s book. I got that Bodega jawn, I done seen the internet videos. How WOULD he sound over a few Dre beats? Some break beats? A posse cut with a few of our “favorite rappers and M.C.’s” so we could debate who stole the record like folks used to.

LF: That flick looks like he JUST got back from the NFL scouting combine and he ran a 4.7 40 as a defensive lineman. lol
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Paperstacker Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
lupe and joel are very different.. By these industry standars lupe is more marketable.

^

i don’t know how

dude is a nerd

the whole industry used to do ballet and tapdancing and now they rap about shooting people and moving ki’s

whereas lupe was implicated in a major state-to-state heroin bust that put his best friend and mentor in jail, but now he raps about robots and shit

lupe doesn’t exactly fit the mold of what has been successful in the past

i know kanye ushered in a new sound but lupe is still different

i mean shit i love dude’s style [||] but i’m saying, atlantic has problems promoting lupe too, but they just said fuck it and released the album

you just have to do that so that people can hear the aritst outside of the world of the internets
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
@ Diggy

word…that was real talk
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
@ Digi

I was sayin this the other day. You cant FORCE someone to be a good businessman.

Some people just wanna be artists. Nothing more, nothing less. Everybody nowadays is trying to be a “Mogul” because its fashionable…

…Some people just wanna make music, & If they can feed their families, they’re good…Everybody doesnt desire all the extra shit
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Lupe is definetly more marketable. He’ll get more chicks to buy his album than Joel [||]
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
By these industry standars lupe is more marketable.

>>I disagree. Lupe wears glasses, Joell is fat…

Andre 3000 dresses like he’s captain planet

Scarface looks like he just took a dump

Jay-z…well, i don’t wanna comment on a nigga’s looks

Pimp C reminded me of a skinny Jazze Pha

Weezy… well you see where i’m going with this.

what exactly are marketable looks in rap, cuz biggie was sure damn marketable to me….
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Da PartyStarter Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
^

just put out the fucking album

^^^
If the point is to get heard, then he already won.

^

not true

outside the interets nobody knows dude

we live in a bubble, sometimes it’s easy to forget
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
# RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

@ Digi

I was sayin this the other day. You cant FORCE someone to be a good businessman.

Some people just wanna be artists. Nothing more, nothing less. Everybody nowadays is trying to be a â€œMogulâ€ because its fashionableâ€¦

â€¦Some people just wanna make music, & If they can feed their families, theyâ€™re goodâ€¦Everybody doesnt desire all the extra shit

^simple.. yet prolific.. (get my thesaurus in the back)
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Chea doing the “Soulja Boy” dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
outside the interets nobody knows dude

we live in a bubble, sometimes itâ€™s easy to forget

^^^

This is what I try to remind people…

I’m gonna start calling it “Budden-Syndrome”
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Andre 3000 dresses like heâ€™s captain planet

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DIES
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
@ Chea.. i see what ur sayin.. but unless you live in botiswana… chances are you got the internet.. and if ur a fan of hip hop.. chances are you heard of joell ortiz..

the internet = big bubble..

now also consider who is joell’s “target demo” if you wanna consider that..

you think he goin after souljaboys demo..

or you think he is tryin to appeal to those hip hop heads who say talent is missing from the game..

the problem is.. those same hip hop heads download shit because they aggy at years of buyin cd’s with 3 or 4 good songs out of 21 with 5 skits..

it is what it is
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
LOL
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Lupe has style to go along with his flow and Lyrics, and his quirkiness makes him even more marketable…

Lupe has personality, Even though he is lyrical, he is able to use different flows to mask over the the heavy content…

Joell ortiz has a boring personality…He’s a little funny, but there is nothing about him that would make him standout…He’s gotta market himself in another way..We have seen a thousand joell ortiz’s in our lifetime….He’s good but we done seen it all….

Lyrics alone Never Sold….It’s Simple mathematics…Jay/nas types have saturated the game…It’s not a good or bad thing, thats just simple economic.
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Boosie Says:

It’s not a good or bad thing, thats just simple economic.

^

but it’s not that simple b/c how did big sell

dude was disgusting
HHF Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
bubble syndrome affects Joel Ortiz. Maybe not in NY but everwhere else.
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Lyrics alone Never Sold

I beg to differ…fugees, tribe called quest, redman, biggie. At any given point when these artists were sellin’, there were gimmicky artists who were’nt… the game just morphed on us, but lyrics once sold IMO
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
not true

outside the interets nobody knows dude

we live in a bubble, sometimes itâ€™s easy to forget

^^^
Not really cause whether 5 or 50000 heard him, he got heard. Now, if the folks on line like me, do what I do, which is dl some of his songs, play them in the whip or when my boy come around(say fight night or Superbowl Sunday) and when my mans and them ask who who is, I put ‘em on. The internet has “sped it up to slow it down”, so to speak.
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Joel needs to shoot himself in the thigh or something. That gimmick was wasted on that asshole in HOT 97. what’s his name again…?
BKScribe Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
man we could debate this till the growth drops on def jam…

I could go in n break shit down from my point of view..

but i aint gettin paid for my thoughts..

and them shits don’t matter in this context anyway
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
# ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Lyrics alone Never Sold

I beg to differâ€¦fugees, tribe called quest, redman, biggie. At any given point when these artists were sellinâ€™, there were gimmicky artists who wereâ€™ntâ€¦ the game just morphed on us, but lyrics once sold IMO

^^^

All of those artists had something other than lyrics that made them sell…

Boosie’s right.

You gotta have more than JUST bars. Its always been like that.
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
but itâ€™s not that simple b/c how did big sell

dude was disgusting

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wtf, Marketability is not all based on how rappers look. smh. Its the swag, the content, the lyrics, style, clothes maybe. That aint the issue though. Rap just happens to be in a declining state money wise. Its hard for EVERYONE to sell.
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
DPS….. Why your bols robbin all them stores?! What happened to their acting careers?
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Joel lookin’ like he was supposed to be in a ROCAWEAR fall magazine ad, but didn’t make the cut, in that pic…
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
BKScribe Says:

man we could debate this till the growth drops on def jamâ€¦

I could go in n break shit down from my point of view..

but i aint gettin paid for my thoughts..

and them shits donâ€™t matter in this context anyway

^^^^^^^^^^^

very true..lol…
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
All of those artists had something other than lyrics that made them sellâ€¦

Boosieâ€™s right.

You gotta have more than JUST bars. Its always been like that.

>>Aiight then. I concede. But the public’s fickle. The game’s gonna switch up again in a minute.
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
# JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

DPSâ€¦.. Why your bols robbin all them stores?! What happened to their acting careers?
^^^^
Kcuf YOU!!! LOL Them bum munchers is from JOISEY!!! WTF is that shit doing on the FRONT PAGE?!? Tailkin’ ’bout.”Hardened Criminals” and shit. I swear the Daily News can be cynical as shit some times….lol
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
# chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

Boosie Says:

Itâ€™s not a good or bad thing, thats just simple economic.

^

but itâ€™s not that simple b/c how did big sell

dude was disgusting
____________________________________________________

Are you’re talking about disgusting as in looks?

Looks have nothing to do with rap…70% of the rappers look like extra-terrestrials…Truth is nobody wants to listen to a pretty nigga…Looks can help or aid, but it never is the thing that holds you over for a span of time…It’s your talent..

Big Sold, because he came and brought something New to the era….93-95, Is when a whole new style of rap change from the big breaths at the end of a rhyme to more modern, where the flow wasnt so choppy…

The public never seen a BIG before, he was fresh, new, wore the shades, had the flow….He dropped at a new Time and style for MC’s…

Its 2008…You cant be trying to rhyme like Big, or Jay or nas, and expect to sell now a days…Thats just the way of music…Styles come and go..You cant blame it on the people…Thats just the history of music
chea Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
aight yall i’m out

peace and much love to ya
ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
*daps and…* you know the rest… i’m out.
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
If your “career niche” is “gay, internet porno star” you should “go in the bathroom, open the cabinet, take the pills.” (c) Fiddy
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
just to let you where we at right now:

Soulja Boy Tell`em - Crank That (Soulja Boy)
15,768,474 views on youtube

that’s 15 million people….gotta give the kid props thou on the real….

Soulja Boy > Gza…
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
# ODEMIC Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Lyrics alone Never Sold

I beg to differâ€¦fugees, tribe called quest, redman, biggie. At any given point when these artists were sellinâ€™, there were gimmicky artists who wereâ€™ntâ€¦ the game just morphed on us, but lyrics once sold IMO
__________________________________________________________

People werent listening to these artist on lyrics alone….Half the people cant even recite a tribe or redman lyric..

Why they Sold…

Tribe– Laid back group with a mellow sound…q-tip brought a chill flare to the game….They had love grooves, and chill out music…Different from the rest of the music at that time..

Redman—Unorthodox style…Lyrically unorthodox, people thought he was a devil worshipper…Funny videos…A clown…smoked weed…People gravited to his style and sound.

Biggie–Sold cause of his mafioso swagger, along with great lyrics…Had all different types of flows…A fat gangster lover….The public never seen this before..
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
# JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

DPSâ€¦.. Why your bols robbin all them stores?! What happened to their acting careers?
^^^^
Kcuf YOU!!! LOL Them bum munchers is from JOISEY!!! WTF is that shit doing on the FRONT PAGE?!? Tailkinâ€™ â€™bout.â€Hardened Criminalsâ€ and shit. I swear the Daily News can be cynical as shit some timesâ€¦.lol

^^^^

LMAO.. Jokes an jokes and jokes…

Shit crazy.. yeah the DN be kinda.. i dunno. Did u read the article though? the one dude did sound pretty (please forgive) wild ||

What up though?
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
but even more crazy:

Soulja Boy Tellem - How to Crank That - INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO!

28,863,868 views….. almost 30 million views…cot damn

shout-out to soulja boy!
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
â€œgo in the bathroom, open the cabinet, take the pills.â€ (c) Fiddy

^^^

That part of the song is my shit…

I rewind that shit a million times.

50 Talking > ANYBODY’s punchlines.

And “Return Of The Body Snatchers” would have been the best Aftermath LP since GRODT if it was official.
nation Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
>> 28,863,868 viewsâ€¦.. almost 30 million viewsâ€¦cot damn

it’s every Step Crew in the lower Atlanta area pressing F5 over, and over, and over…
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
30x platinum on Youtube is fuckin good…
nation Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
>> 30x platinum on Youtube is fuckin goodâ€¦

and then what?

did you like the album he dropped with that album deal he got making a foo of himself on Youtube? you do know that nobody is feeling his shit… and that whatever he did accomplish last year was people mocking him and dying of laughter at that fucking dance/song

but… 50 made a video with him (n/h) so you’ve got to show love

yo I heard soulja boy is making a song with ja, fat joe and jadakiss… you’ve got to respect that hustle
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Shit crazy.. yeah the DN be kinda.. i dunno. Did u read the article though? the one dude did sound pretty (please forgive) wild ||

What up though?

Dude was/is an “internet gay porno star/crack dealer”. He lost, his father lost, his gay ass twin brother lost, his momma lost and the Daily News lost. lol
__________________________________________________________________

People werent listening to these artist on lyrics aloneâ€¦.Half the people cant even recite a tribe or redman lyric..

Why they Soldâ€¦

Tribeâ€“ Laid back group with a mellow soundâ€¦q-tip brought a chill flare to the gameâ€¦.They had love grooves, and chill out musicâ€¦Different from the rest of the music at that time..

Redmanâ€”Unorthodox styleâ€¦Lyrically unorthodox, people thought he was a devil worshipperâ€¦Funny videosâ€¦A clownâ€¦smoked weedâ€¦People gravited to his style and sound.

Biggieâ€“Sold cause of his mafioso swagger, along with great lyricsâ€¦Had all different types of flowsâ€¦A fat gangster loverâ€¦.The public never seen this before..

^^^
The crux of this is ALL these acts blew up BEFORE the advent of internet savvyness. How many of US on here was downloading BEFORE say 2000? 2001? 2002? 2003? Yeah, you had shit like Napster and limewire and share bear but not a BUNCH of us was up on it. Now, shit, catz LEARN: Turn on, log in, down load. Also, my previous argument of Hip-Hop music as disposable goes along with this.
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
didn’t realize how anti-Mega nah right is. damn! his albums still knock better than most. very consistent catalogue.
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Two-Times Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
30x platinum on Youtube is fuckin goodâ€¦

^^^

3x diamond

2x what up *daps*

I see u in here wit the same ol comedy.. lol.. why you trackin Soulja boy’s youtube views? lol you a funny nahgger
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Pakistan’s government is aiming to block youtube. sucks for them.
RIGZ Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
# G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

didnâ€™t realize how anti-Mega nah right is. damn! his albums still knock better than most. very consistent catalogue.

^^^^

Yep.
PHOENIXXX Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
apparently there’s an interview and Street video for Talk To Em (joe Budden’s jay z “diss”) on that new Come Up DVD

eskay get on your job man

http://www.lix.in/250ed279
http://www.lix.in/16ed8e14
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
*daps late shift*

anybody cop that Pete Rock?

*expects cricket response*
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
@ Nation

relax homie.. Soulja Boy is just like 15 years old….. I don’t know have no problem with kids doin that shit…
it’s ok with me… no need to get uptight
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Officers conducting surveillance work at an apartment complex spotted Taleon running up the building’s walls and turning back flips.

“The officers said, ‘We’re glad we’re not going after him,’ ” Kunkel recalled. “Lo and behold, after that, he began conducting open-air, hand-to-hand drug sales.”

Police arrested Taleon for possessing about a half-ounce of crack cocaine and a loaded .25-caliber automatic handgun. While handcuffed in the back of the moving car, Taleon smashed out the rear window by head-butting it, police said. He then dove through the window and its steel frame, causing $1,800 in damage, Kunkel said.

After landing on his face, Taleon rose to his feet and, while still handcuffed, fled on foot and into a nearby pond, police said.

“He swam across like Flipper, taunting the officers saying, ‘You’ll never catch me,’ ” Kunkel said.

^^^

When i read that last part… aw man.. it was over lol
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
The crux of this is ALL these acts blew up BEFORE the advent of internet savvyness. How many of US on here was downloading BEFORE say 2000? 2001? 2002? 2003? Yeah, you had shit like Napster and limewire and share bear but not a BUNCH of us was up on it. Now, shit, catz LEARN: Turn on, log in, down load. Also, my previous argument of Hip-Hop music as disposable goes along with this.
________________________________________________________

True but when I’m talking about sold….I’m meaning Heavy interest nation wide…..Not a lot of heavy interest in Joell ortiz now, as far as nationwide, cause the music interest has shifted to a whole new sound
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
@ JayDeez

why you trackin Soulja boyâ€™s youtube views? lol you a funny nahgger

^^^
lol..word … yo im just check all time numbers of most viewed vids on youtube, to see if hiphop is in there… i don’t care if Ja Rule or Fat Joe are up in there, at the end of the day it’s better for hiphop…know what im sayin?

and what’s good with you…and what up with the clothing line?…whats the advertising/marketing plan yall got?
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Mega is a good artist, but that goes to show you that Lyrics alone never sold Greatly…Not taking anything from him as a MC, but he relied mostly on his word play and content to connect people…..Definitely nothing wrong with that…

Not every artist is intended to connect with a mass amount of people..and not everyone wants that spotlight
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
>>Soulja Boy Tellem - How to Crank That - INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO!

28,863,868 viewsâ€¦.

^that’s fcukin’ dispicable
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
@ 2x… i aint got no clothing line.. ??
PHOENIXXX Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
# G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

>>Soulja Boy Tellem - How to Crank That - INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO!

28,863,868 viewsâ€¦.

^thatâ€™s fcukinâ€™ dispicable

^^^
lmao

all those people lost
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
G7 Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
>>Soulja Boy Tellem - How to Crank That - INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO!

28,863,868 viewsâ€¦.

^thatâ€™s fcukinâ€™ dispicable

^^^^^^^^^^^

atleast it’s hiphop, not Kenny Chesney or someboyd like that…
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
nation Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

>> 30x platinum on Youtube is fuckin goodâ€¦

and then what?

did you like the album he dropped with that album deal he got making a foo of himself on Youtube? you do know that nobody is feeling his shitâ€¦ and that whatever he did accomplish last year was people mocking him and dying of laughter at that fucking dance/song
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wow, someone sounds aggy….Soulja boy dance is the 2008 YMCA song fam…Not all music is made for thorough digestion….Let the young dude live……
hip hop cops Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
joell looks like he just opened the door to a room full of naked chinese kindergarteners
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
JayDeez Says:

@ 2xâ€¦ i aint got no clothing line.. ??

^^^ my bad man… i got it confused with somebody else…
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Boosie Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
nation Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

>> 30x platinum on Youtube is fuckin goodâ€¦

and then what?

did you like the album he dropped with that album deal he got making a foo of himself on Youtube? you do know that nobody is feeling his shitâ€¦ and that whatever he did accomplish last year was people mocking him and dying of laughter at that fucking dance/song
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wow, someone sounds aggyâ€¦.Soulja boy dance is the 2008 YMCA song famâ€¦Not all music is made for thorough digestionâ€¦.Let the young dude liveâ€¦â€¦

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

exactly…
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
True but when Iâ€™m talking about soldâ€¦.Iâ€™m meaning Heavy interest nation wideâ€¦..Not a lot of heavy interest in Joell ortiz now, as far as nationwide, cause the music interest has shifted to a whole new sound

^^^
Those folks be the “Rap music 85%ers”. Some folks just aren’t interested in “lyricalism”. That’s Hip-Hop’s parodox. Many of us who are smart and savvy enough to disect lyrics are also savvy enough to know where to find the music for free. Many of us aren’t interested in “image” or “marketability”, we are interested in who got that spit. SOME acts transcend this philosophy but MOST acts fall into this catagory. We USED to here the music before we saw the artist, now it’s the other way around. As soon as somebody figures out a way to pull these different pieces together AND make money off it, the sooner some body’s gonna be wealthy beyond his or her dreams.

____________________

JayDeez-

I read that shit this morning and I could HEAR folks all over the Delaware Valley snickering. This dude is a real life Omar. LOL
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Hammer “Can’t Touch This” dance > Superman dance

at least some of Hammer’s moves required some athleticism
JayDeez Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
All good 2x
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
How many of US on here was downloading BEFORE say 2000? 2001? 2002? 2003?

^^^^^^^^^^^^

lol, I remember back then like 02 that limewire shit was new to me, i knew some niggas that was up on it and I’d be like damn how you got 1000’s of songs on your pc? Niggas was trying to turn that shit into a hustle too, like “yo i got that new cd gimme $2 for that”.
Two-Times Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I bet souljah boy got paid big time by youtube…
Paperstacker Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I remember when I used to buy bootlegs early thinking dude on the block was the only person in the world to have that specific cd. Till I found the internet. smh,
G7 Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
some slick dance moves in these videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KajocxkO-bg

Kane- Smooth Operator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osvi4vekDuM

EPMD- You gots to Chill
Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Hammer â€œCanâ€™t Touch Thisâ€ dance > Superman dance

Hammer Dance= 20 minute aerobic workout

Superman dance = Electric Slide 2.0

typewriter>>>>motorcycle

*mad because I can’t put together all the “Superman dance moves”*

*smiles because as a GROWN ASS MAN, I SHOULDN’T be able to*
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Downloads killed the bootleggers….SMH at anyone buying a bootleg cd these days…You’re getting ripped off to the highest degree…

when You go into a music store and buy inside, the only thing you are purchasing now is the CD plastic and the Credits, and Maybe a slight better sound quality, other than that you’re getting ripped off.
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
# Da PartyStarter Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

Hammer â€œCanâ€™t Touch Thisâ€ dance > Superman dance

Hammer Dance= 20 minute aerobic workout

Superman dance = Electric Slide 2.0

typewriter>>>>motorcycle

*mad because I canâ€™t put together all the â€œSuperman dance movesâ€*

*smiles because as a GROWN ASS MAN, I SHOULDNâ€™T be able to*
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What’s wrong with a grown ass man doing the superman dance…I mean if you sitting it up in the mirror trying to perfect that shit, but wilding out at a party chilling having fun doing a superman….I dont see nothing wrong with it…

There is no stigma on the Electric slide…..Chicago they get loose all the time on the dance steps…
Boosie Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
*perfect that shit is one thing,
JayDeez Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RIP new york lyrical rappers careers
JayDeez Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
RIP ~~new york lyrical rappers careers.~~
JayDeez Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
ok im retarded…

rip ~~new~~ ~~york~~ rappers
JayDeez Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
this.. is testing…

ima loser..

rip ~~new york~~ rappers

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