61 Responses to “Big Lou, Papoose & Busta – The Last Lyricists”

1. Paperstacker Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm

   Blue Magic is more hip-hop than Shook Ones.

   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Man, you can’t be serious. Blue Magic witty but lacking any content, regular bragging, pop infused beat.

   Hip Hop started with partying and consious or fun lyrics, Jay may have that down beat wise with Blue Magic but apart from that shit ain’t hip hop compared to shook ones.

2. Willy Swagger Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pm

   so Eskay would you rather listen to the Infamous or American Gangster? Be Honest Negroe, all jokes aside all vocals aside(c) Sean Price

3. Paperstacker Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pm

   I like the soul infused beats on AG, AG is a pretty solid album

4. Phuque Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm

   If Papoose had antlers he’d be on my grandfather’s wall.

5. E-Side LBC Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm

   Been Waiting On A Link For This All Day

6. eskay Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm

   >>Man, you can’t be serious. Blue Magic witty but lacking any content, regular bragging, pop infused beat.

   >>Hip Hop started with partying and consious or fun lyrics

   ^ you just ethered your own argument.

   Blue magic does not lack content, you just lack analytical skills.

   just cuz something is more gangster doesn’t mean it’s more hip-hop.

7. State of Grace Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm

   Blue Magic witty but lacking any content, regular bragging, pop infused beat

   ^^Lacking content? He namechecks Ronald Reagan and Oliver North and implicates them in helping to foster crack in the 80s through illicit Iran-Contra funds. What content does Shook Ones have? “We’re black Leprechauns and we’re pissed about how midgety we are”

8. nation Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm

   sean price

9. Willy Swagger Says:
   January 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm

   I cant believe you guys are shitting on Shook Ones *leaves in disgust for a few minutes*

10. eskay Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    >>so Eskay would you rather listen to the Infamous or American Gangster?

    AG, but that’s not a fair question. I’ve head Infamous more times than I can count. I’m an admitted Jay stan and I have a well known bias against Pee-Pee. one has been out 10 years the other 2 months.

11. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Jay’s lyrical content is shallow, people admire his wittiness on records, due to the double entrandes and punchlines. But seriously this dude ain’t diverse, sticks to the same formula all the time afraid to divulge from usual a pop record or the usual “I drink ace of spades nigga, I got a maybach, used to move that white” blah blah blah shit.

12. eskay Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    >>Lacking content? He namechecks Ronald Reagan and Oliver North and implicates them in helping to foster crack in the 80s through illicit Iran-Contra funds. What content does Shook Ones have? “We’re black Leprechauns and we’re pissed about how midgety we are”

    thank you. end of argument.

13. Phuque Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    I just thought maybe we’d go one day without mentioning that nigga Shawn Carter’s name.

14. eskay Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    >>Jay’s lyrical content is shallow, people admire his wittiness on records, due to the double entrandes and punchlines. But seriously this dude ain’t diverse, sticks to the same formula all the time afraid to divulge from usual a pop record or the usual “I drink ace of spades nigga, I got a maybach, used to move that white”

    the arguments over, but you know that ain’t true nigga so stop it.

    and what fucking lyrical content does P have? he ever strays from pulling out mac’s, punching niggas in the face and rocking jewels? (oh sorry, he don’t rock jewels no more, smh).

    at least we know Jay really owns the Maybach.

15. Cut that Bitch OFF Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    papoose would look cute if he didnt wear such big caps

16. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    whats good @ Willy Sag

    I don’t think it is gay to be able to determine whether a motherfucker is ugly or not. If you don’t like looking in a motherfuckers direction because it makes your eyes bleed then he just ugly. Other than that I guess the nigga is okay
    - – - – - –

    Blue Magic would’ve worked for me if Hov would’ve jacked Kool Mo D’s flow. It wouldv’e killed that beat

    The Infamous > AG IMO because I will listen to that album for the rest of my life. But on the same note:

    Reasonable Doubt > The Infamous a huge margin

17. Phuque Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    whats good @ Willy Sag

    I don’t think it is gay to be able to determine whether a motherfucker is ugly or not. If you don’t like looking in a motherfuckers direction because it makes your eyes bleed then he just ugly. Other than that I guess the nigga is okay

    ^^^

    LMAO @ that argument

18. State of Grace Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    and what fucking lyrical content does P have?

    ^^Well, he does know about the Mars pyramids, so he’s up on his 1990 Schwarzenegger flicks. I wonder if he has the same dvd that I do, that came bundled with Terminator 2. Next week we’ll hear a new P track where he’s talking about the robots from the future trying to kill him for telling too many secrets, smh.

19. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    ^Lacking content? He namechecks Ronald Reagan and Oliver North and implicates them in helping to foster crack in the 80s through illicit Iran-Contra funds. What content does Shook Ones have? “We’re black Leprechauns and we’re pissed about how midgety we are”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Oh how impressive. As usual says something that most people are aware of or have hinted at before and his stans act like he is some genius. Then he ties in the usual crack selling related reference for his stans. Jay never puts any content in his music unless it somehow relates to him moving weight back in the day.

20. jrock Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    This is why hip hop sucks ! wack beat and a mc with no skill or drive for the game,100 mixtapes that suck and a dj dick riding from ny to the south.
    come on grow up

21. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    just thought maybe we’d go one day without mentioning that nigga Shawn Carter’s name.
    - – - –

    Nigga you can’t go a day in New Zealand without hearing Hov’s name. Eskay will hunt your ass down in the old school Jeep pumpin’ Blue Magic and fuck up your whole day.

22. Willy Swagger Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Look eskay ever rapper doesnt have to be lyrical or doesnt have to be witty, there is different sectors(sp) and types of niche rap. Whatever you want to call Prodigy’s i.e. Gangsta or Thug Rap, Dude was quite good at that for a long period of time and dropped classic and I do mean classic material. Its apples and oranges homie

23. Phuque Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    # Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    just thought maybe we’d go one day without mentioning that nigga Shawn Carter’s name.
    - – - -

    Nigga you can’t go a day in New Zealand without hearing Hov’s name. Eskay will hunt your ass down in the old school Jeep pumpin’ Blue Magic and fuck up your whole day.

    ^^^

    LOL…its funny cuz it’s true (c) Peter Griffin

24. cOLD Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    damn look there goes a black girl lost.

25. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    I am not comparing P to Jay in terms of lyrical content. I am just saying you hov stans have put this guy on such a high pedestal that you can’t even form objective opinions on his music. The only thing worst than a good artist is one thats been overrated by his stans to unreachable limits. For example Elvis.

26. nation Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Blood Money > Reasonable Doubt

27. chea Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    if these are the last lyricists i’m going to start listening to rock and roll

    *papoosed*

    RIP the gorgeous gangsta

28. Cut that Bitch OFF Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    # Willy Swagger Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Look eskay ever rapper doesnt have to be lyrical or doesnt have to be witty, there is different sectors(sp) and types of niche rap. Whatever you want to call Prodigy’s i.e. Gangsta or Thug Rap, Dude was quite good at that for a long period of time and dropped classic and I do mean classic material. Its apples and oranges homie
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Willy Swagger if it was apples and oranges why would you ask eskay what would he rather listen to?

29. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    But Hov is the best Coke rapper ever. Them Clipse niggas can’t do it like hov.

    2nd best rapper when it comes to talking about paper, behind B.I.G. big namedropped for everything. If he had a candybar, it was a Godiva joint with truffles in that motherfucker.

30. State of Grace Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    As usual says something that most people are aware of or have hinted at before and his stans act like he is some genius.

    ^^Never said it was genius, but it is an example of content that’s not about money, cash, hoes which is exactly what you asked for. You’re never going to be satisfied so there’s no point in trying to make a proper argument. Jay should have signed with G-Unit and changed his name to Hollywood Hov, that would have been a much better display of content, right?

31. chea Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    btw is kay slay still smashing buffie?

32. Two-Times Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    well, I see Eskay is defending Jay-Z like none other again, against hiphop classics like “Infamous” ….

    smh…

    another trend from ‘undercover haters’ on blogs:

    “yo, ROTM sucked but the beats were nice”….

    smh @ that hate….Well where would Jay-z be without good beats??

    fuck outta here…

33. Willy Swagger Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Willy Swagger if it was apples and oranges why would you ask eskay what would he rather listen to?

    ^^ Damn dude sometimes you want to eat an Orange cuz its Tropicana and the Apple isnt Green, sheesh

34. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Blood Money > Reasonable Doubt
    - – - –

    when did you lose your hearing,B? That’s sad.

35. Phuque Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    # nation Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Blood Money > Reasonable Doubt

    ^^

    Thoughts of a Predicate Felon > Reasonable Doubt

36. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Jay should have signed with G-Unit and changed his name to Hollywood Hov, that would have been a much better display of content, right?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Actually Hollywood Hov would be far more suitable for his persona and the majority of content in his music.

37. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    But Hov is the best Coke rapper ever. Them Clipse niggas can’t do it like hov.
    ^^^^
    when it comes to coke rap

    Ghost and Rae >>>>>

38. Two-Times Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    The hand wave Gay-Z did in the “show me what you got ” video ===== the most un-hiphop thing in history

    what did Hov think…he was gonna start a trend with that wackness….smh….

    fuckin lame…

    tell Jay-Z to find the local ‘unemployment office’….

39. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Ghost and Rae to me are the greatest storttellers ever. Thier shit is funny as hell and cinematic. Like the joint where they rapped about the watch. Rae is a funny nigga on thier.

40. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    yo I’m at work and my mind ain’t workin’ thats pretty bad. I gotta stop with the drinks for real

41. Two-Times Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Ghost and Rae to me are the greatest storttellers ever.

    ^^^ nah…that title goes to Nas…. (and that is only if you talkin about living rappers, cause BIG was that boy on that shit)

42. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    State, don’t think I’m not a Jay Z fan because I analytically view and then criticize some of his not so impressive music. Hov is in my top 3. That is the problem with Hov stans, God forbid I say Hov did this or that, otherwise I hate him or I think he’s a bad artist. Hov stans put the dude on some pedestal, that he can only stand on if you look at his business accomplishments.

43. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    No doubt. . Ghost and Rae are great story tellers. Nas is pretty good too. Undying Love, I Gave You Power, One Love.

44. chea Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    real talk if mobb deep wasn’t on g-unit, 2x would think they were garbage

    somebody tell me i’m wrong

    and phuque, if you think TOAPF is better than reasonable doubt, you are sonning yourself b (lol)

    people talkin all sideways like someone got a legacy that’s better than jay’s

    GTFOH

    except lupe who is the next emperor of this rap shit, and kanye who is building a legacy of similar stature, jay stands alone

45. State of Grace Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    I know what you’re saying Paper, I’ve certainly witnessed some flagrant Hov stannery at this website and others, and I agree that the man can still be criticized. I just don’t think some retarded garbage about Martian pyramids means that P is worth anything more than mockery.

46. State of Grace Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    except lupe who is the next emperor of this rap shit

    ^^Stannery at 100 and climbing. Keep dreaming.

47. Phuque Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    # Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    State, don’t think I’m not a Jay Z fan because I analytically view and then criticize some of his not so impressive music. Hov is in my top 3. That is the problem with Hov stans, God forbid I say Hov did this or that, otherwise I hate him or I think he’s a bad artist. Hov stans put the dude on some pedestal, that he can only stand on if you look at his business accomplishments.

    ^^^^

    You kidding me? Jay-Z has NEVER EVER made a mistake. EVER. He’s perfect. Every move he’s made has been the right one. All day. L’chaim & shit.

    *throws up diamond*

48. Paperstacker Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    except lupe who is the next emperor of this rap shit, and kanye who is building a legacy of similar stature, jay stands alone

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Another stan… Thanks for your input. I see the light now. From this day on Ill worship Lupe and Kanye…

49. Nonchalant Misfit Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    so, I was gonna come up in here and say this:

    Kay Slay & Pap Smear = Frick & Frack

    you don’t ever see one without the other; it’s like they’re BFF

    & every pic I see of them 2, they look like some SALTY-ASS New York* Niggaz

    *I was gonna say Up Top, but New York does not equate Up Top anymore

    anyways

    The Infamous > American Gangster ALL FUCKIN’ DAY

    Mobb may have fell off, Jay IS a BETTER emcee/lyricist/entertainer AND has a significantly deeper and more relevant CATALOG of songs to rock an ARENA (and think about this: Mobb Deep could NEVER rock an arena or STADIUM like Hov has done REPEATEDLY)

    BUT

    judging just on the merits of each album by itself and nothing else

    The Infamous is way iller…that whole NYC/Queens vibe was captured perfectly on that album…

    look at it like this: play The Infamous now. Sounds just as good as it did 12-13 FUCKIN’ YEARS AGO.

    That, my friends, is a classic album.

    *gets on his 95 shit and bounces*

50. Stackin' Papers Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Alright for Mr. Phuque….

    You said JAY-Z Never EVER made a mistake… You will see jay-z is not the best and will find that PAC, BIG, NAS, BIG L are the greats… I still like jay-z though!!!!! d’evils is my shittt

    Anyway I got proof JAY aint the best…

    1. Ether
    2. Big L & Jay-Z Freestyle part 1 & 2 (jay-z is looking real bad here :(

51. Blackwater Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    fuck rap. Christian raggeton is the movement!

52. GREAT ZEEE Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    TRASH
    HIP HOP = DISCO

53. Korean Slap Boxer Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Papoose is wack

54. monstersick Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    i so hate… big lou right now everything i hear from him to me is trickety trash trash trash i dont get why niggas aint saying it THAT NIGGA HAD POTENTIAL BUT HE IS WACK RIGHT NOW WACK SHITTY we cant let that shit fly man thats just TRASH!!!!

55. ceedat Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    I’m so SICK of N.Y. cats thinking that they are the only “real lyricists”. Y’all wonder why no one fucks with y’all city when y’all reps make y’all look like the most hating sand in your pussy whiny niggaz alive. I know real N.Y. cats and y’all aint like that tell your D.J.’s and rappers to quit bitching.

56. big lite Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    I think alotta yall dudes here are ah bunch ah fuckin’ nerds. Lou and Pap bodied his shit.

57. ceedat Says:
    January 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Regardless of their lyrics which were decent I can do without the overdramatic lets mourn and rip our shirts open cause we stuck in the past feel of the whole damn thing. If I was still in high school and not in college I’d probably be more impressed with this song

58. koolg Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 12:20 am

    raekwon kills jay-z when it comes to mafioso coke rhymes

59. loop ferrigno Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:50 am

    http://www.zshare.net/download/6074543467346a/

    Just some shit for the jay enthusiasts out there….

60. J32 Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Korean Slap Boxer Says:

    January 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
    Papoose is wack

    is this a serious statement?

61. FAST Says:
    February 25th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Camden, NJ – For years, diss records have become the norm in the world of Rap music. The rare combination of great lyrical ability, the right adversary, and pinpoint timing can easily make or break an aspiring rap artists’ career. In this case, it appears that Big Lou has at least put a dent in the armor of the underground king Papoose who until Big Lou’s signing was by far the top lyricist in the history of the Streetsweepers label. Legendary; self professed Drama King and Streetweepers founder DJ Kay Slay appears to have been caught in the crossfire.

    There appears to be no love lost between Big Lou and Papoose as reflected in the venomous, yet intelligent way in which Big Lou attacks Papoose in “The Destruction of Papoose”. The track is a straight from the heart, gut-wrenching attack that exposes Papoose’s failures as a commercial artist and Kay Slay’s role in his floundering career.

    Big Lou does an effective job of subliminally stating that he was not willing to hang around for years letting his career get stagnant while Kay Slay continued to promote Papoose who’s career has all but fizzled under the Drama King’s tutelage. In an era where rap battles have dwindled and where the few that materialize are usually a mismatch perpetrated by the lure of record sales; it appears that this one is as real as it gets and could become a classic pending Papoose’s inevitable response. While many of us sit and wait in anticipation for the epic best pound for pound match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather; the showdown between the kid from Camden, a city that’s only 8 square miles and the legendary NY DJ and his Brooklyn prodigy, could turn out to be the best under-card in quite some time.

    http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/2010/02/03/big-lou-the-destruction-of-papoose/

    BigLouLostCity@gmail.com

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