The Game ft. Lil Wayne - Lyrical Homicide
The Game ft. Lil Wayne - Lyrical Homicide
Big props to my man Lowkey at youheardthatnew.com
This one has a bunch of audio drops, but I should have a No DJ, CDQ version a little later.
UPDATE: No DJ Version here
July 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
ONE
July 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
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July 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
ewww
July 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Pete Wentz > Lil’ Wayne
July 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
3-745767340767023870873
July 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
no sir
July 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
# Rey Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
LadiesMan217 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Rey Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Wow, thanks LadiesMan217! You must be awesomer than awesome!
^^^^^^^^
AAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOO!!!
^^^^
Dang, you got me there! NH.
^^Rey playin with himself (c) a misheard siagon
July 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
For the “Broken Wings” freestyle: www joebudden org
Click on mood music on the side menu, then when it comes up click on mood music 3, it should be in there.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Now this is hip-hop right here….
Sike!!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
ya’ll too quick for me today (npup)
July 30th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
@ BKS.. Um.. No comment? Ayo? NH?
July 30th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
made and joe 88
nahright.com/news/index.php?s=broken+wings+freestyle
July 30th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
and if yall read billz thesis on budden…
here is the link to the budden conspiracy theory..
headmasterz.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/the-joe-buddens-conspiracy-theory/#more-1560
July 30th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Gayne & Gayme=Tongue ring wearing, change of heart going, tongue kissing a man type duo!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Practice > The Game
Intra-Mural Scrimmage > The Game
The Stats > The Game
The Announcers > The Game
The Concession Stand > The Game
Halftime > The Game
the Seventh Inning Stretch (nh) > The Game
Postponed because of Rain > The Game
July 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
That file has been deleted TY.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
www joebudden org / forums / misc . php?do= page & template = moodmuzik
July 30th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
This hook is garbage
Game went in on this, wayne got sonned on this track, heard better from both, but game owned wayne on this one, maybe wayne wasen’t high enuff, but if the whole mixtape sound like this then wayne is in trouble, this aint no walk in the park like the album with juelz, game thrives off outshining a nigga on a track, so wayne gonna have to step his game up ASAP. & I don’t like game, but I don’t front on a hot verse
July 30th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
ok made and prop joe 88 heres one that works
www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IDQz1_Wx4
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
*Daps Ty*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
That file has been deleted TY.
=======================
Now that’s fucked up……Now HOV is even pushing back his files.
THE BASTARD!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
go there, then click on mood musik 3, broken wings is there..
and if you guys are just gonna listen to it, laugh, and come back and hate, don’t bother..
Open minds, gents.
(nh)
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
How come most Westcoast rappers carry a desert eagle? I think a Glock has better accuracy and it’s lighter….
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
@ Rey
—————————————–
50 Cent
Curtis
9.11.07
You Mad?
“I Get Money”
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
>>Now that’s fucked up……Now HOV is even pushing back his files.
THE BASTARD!
^LOL
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Rey playin with himself (c) a misheard siagonc
^i c u bk
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
* returns x-facta’s dap *
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
@
Jamz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
How come most Westcoast rappers carry a desert eagle? I think a Glock has better accuracy and it’s lighter….
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Because a Desert Eagle will make you shit just looking at w/o getting shot
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
DAM Z SHARE!!!!!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I wish the best for all these cats……the alternative for a lot of them would probably be fucked up……
How about a happy medium that has never been brought up……
A BOOSIE/BUDDEN COLLABO? (Joe 88) or
A BUDDEN/BOOSIE COLLABO? (Ty/Rey)
Let’s make it happen fellas! (none)
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think Joe is going to be that impressed?
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Blood in Blood Out if its ever released that mixtape will be a problem…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IDQz1_Wx4
^^listen to broken wings here also
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Im listening now. Thanks Rey and Ty.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Game is overated
July 30th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
yo rey that broken wings track is sick, its one of budden’s best. that a-rod analogy was dope.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
pockets Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Rey playin with himself (c) a misheard saigon
^i c u bk
^^^
That’s just disturbing. Even for clowning purposes.
*daps pockets*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
The beat on this Game/Wayne track is hard!!(n/h). Verses are pretty close. I give the edge to Game. As usual Wayne said some retarted stuff that f%cked it up.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
*Listens to Broken wings freestyle*
*Blank stare*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
@
pockets Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
yo rey that broken wings track is sick, its one of budden’s best. that a-rod analogy was dope.
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That’s a one hot line every 3 year avg. and that’s so “LAMMMMMEEE”
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
…Techno Instrumentals is runnin’ this rap shit…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
That’s just disturbing. Even for clowning purposes.
*daps pockets*
^i meant i was the one who said that
July 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
The Celtics are gonna be a problem in the East with Pierce, KG and Ray Allen
July 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
@
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
…Techno Instrumentals is runnin’ this rap shit…
—————————————-
I thought “Memph Bleak” is running this rap shit………..
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I am going to be as honest as possible and say that Joe BuddenS broken wing freestyle didnt touch me then when I first heard it or now the way it touched most of the Nah Collective……..just my thoughts
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
# Big Homie Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Game is
overatedwackJuly 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
That freestyle is sick. I need an album though. The first one was slick.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Word.. That line about “ain’t shit you can do to me I ain’t already thought about doing to myself” (nh, you bastards) hit home like crazy.. when you’ve been there, anything else is better.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
That’s a one hot line every 3 year avg. and that’s so “LAMMMMMEEEâ€
^no. u r wrong. every line in that song was hot. and thats not his only hot song in three years. so ur wrong. go back to math class and figure out wat average means.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
@
Ron Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
The Celtics are gonna be a problem in the East with Pierce, KG and Ray Allen
——————-
Fucking Celtics!!!! Damnit!!! I was hoping this was the Knicks year to come back and dominate the sorry ass Atlantic Division
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
*daps Fux*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Ooh wee! that beat is wicked!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
bonnnnzaaaaaaa
July 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
….Texas Instruments is runnin’ this rap shit….
July 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Jamz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think Joe is going to be that impressed?
probably not but….if i truely beileve its next to impossible to hate on this song if you really like, respect and put emphsais on lyrics
” you dont feel what the pencil scripts /
than 8 times out of 10 you been through shit /
when you joe you hear the conviction /
addiction /
that open emotion /
devotion is different ”
” thought i was fucked up with no shoes till i met me a nigga with no feet “
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
# Jamz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
How come most Westcoast rappers carry a desert eagle? I think a Glock has better accuracy and it’s lighter….
^I carry a musket… they call me the 60 second assassin..
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I am going to be as honest as possible and say that Joe BuddenS broken wing freestyle didnt touch me then when I first heard it or now the way it touched most of the Nah Collective……..just my thoughts
^ It was hot, but I need an album that hot. MM2 didnt move me really.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
*Listens to Broken wings freestyle*
*Blank stare*
….yeah ok and thats not hating ? gtfoh
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
*Listens to Broken wings freestyle*
*Blank stare*
^^^^^
*kick*
*stunner*
*middle finger* (nh)
*pours beer on J88’s lifeless body*
Wipe me down.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
The voices ain’t leave yet,
they just gettin’ they feet wet
Eyes red, I’m up, ain’t been to sleep yet
Damn near two days, ain’t even eat yet
If you don’t wanna bounce, ‘least take a little recess
And still I’m faced with the bullshit
Feelin’ like Willy D, Scarface and Bushwick
Dog, just when I gather its dead
I gotta knock on wood like Hank Gathers head
When I make small steps toward making it global
My tight knit circle turns into a oval
Filled with motha fuckas just pretendin’ they know you
These snakes in the grass’ll do whatever to coax you
Since they wanna hem you quick
I walk around like a Ginsu’s tip
And that’s just to get a mental grip
You don’t feel what the pencil scripts
Then eight times outta ten you ain’t been through shit
When you hear Joe you hear the conviction and diction
That open emotion, devotion is different
Real talk of when he ain’t have a pot to piss in
He ain’t have a car not one rock to glisten
I’m giving ‘em non-fiction,
conning his addictions
Ya’ll got the easy job, just listen
I do it for my folk and those of another pigment
A little food for thought, you feelin’ malnutrition
But you don’t hear a peep outta me
About the black face goin’ on and the sheep leadin’ sheep
It’s deep, so I try to stay grounded like dad
Must be in City Island, I’m surrounded by crabs
Was once tight, grew apart for dollars
Was on the same panel, now he’s Starring Barbara
Two different views, two different lifestyles
I think ‘long the way one of us got confused
Look, you a hustla, still attracted to the scene
Still doin’ shit I gave up at sixteen
You won’t get a job, believin’ your own lies
You rationalize by sayin’ you pursing your dreams
You damn near thirty nigga you ain’t got cream
Can’t take care of you when you worried ’bout your team
My dude, want a hand out, wait in line
But the clock’s still tickin’ man you playin’ with time,
It’s so sweet
Thought I was fucked up with no shoes ’til I met me a nigga with no feet
Tried to help niggas, some niggas I couldn’t
That’s my mom in me, I love niggas I shouldn’t
Dudes wanna shoot ‘em ’til he nailed
Some wanna threaten me, ruin my health
Let me teach you a little something ’bout depression
Ain’t shit you could do to me I ain’t already thought about doing to myself
I’m the voice for the youth that’s living with no reason
Fuck record sales, I give ‘em something to believe in
If your day starts in that broken home
Though we never met, ‘least they feel like they not alone
Like I was back when I was tryna’ find dip
The tsunami came through my hood in nine six
And tried to murder dog,
I took a little dive
Then I got on my surfin board and kept slidin’
Feel like A-Rod, some say his time’s up
Boo a nigga at home, yup I’m in my prime But
he by far the best player on the team
And then turn around, drop ‘em to the bottom of the lineup
Should get traded, but he don’t wanna move
‘Cause this the only city he got somethin’ to prove
And that’s why I’m seen with heaters
‘Cause you can’t be the man when you on the same team as Jeter Ya dig,
it’s like the game ain’t gettin’ suitable
Makin’ me so sick I need Chicken Noodle Soup
Rappers flyin’ high, then got suicidal
Imitate Jim Jones, end up like Cory Lidle
I married hip hop, ignored what some was tellin’ me
I started hearin’ rumors of infidelity,
I ain’t divorce ‘er
All the other dudes is so wack that I even feel a little jealousy
July 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
*Listens to joe budden “broken wings” freestyle again*
*Even blanker stare*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
www.zshare.net/audio/2910341b21b547/
^Broken Wings if anybody wants to save it.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I am going to be as honest as possible and say that Joe BuddenS broken wing freestyle didnt touch me then when I first heard it or now the way it touched most of the Nah Collective……..just my thoughts
^^I co-sign that! I am still missing what is so hot about this song and Joe BuddenUps as a whole. I mean dude is a decent rapper, but there has been plenty others dope lyricist before and after him that get no mention at all around these parts at all. If it wasn’t for Nahright, I wouldn’t have given this guy a second look….
July 30th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
That freestyle is sick. I need an album though. The first one was slick.
….i agree but hov is the one stopping it…i gaurantee if dame takes over def jam budden drops within 6 months at most….
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
*Listens to joe budden “broken wings†freestyle again*
*Even blanker stare*
^^^^
*wakes up J88*
*helps him to his feet*
*kicks J88*
*stone cold stunner*
*pours even more beer on J88’s once again prone form*
DTA.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
LF: That Maroon 5 Disco song is dope. I think it’s called “Don’t Have A Reason” or some shit. Step your genre game up.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Jamz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I am going to be as honest as possible and say that Joe BuddenS broken wing freestyle didnt touch me then when I first heard it or now the way it touched most of the Nah Collective……..just my thoughts
^^I co-sign that! I am still missing what is so hot about this song and Joe BuddenUps as a whole. I mean dude is a decent rapper, but there has been plenty others dope lyricist before and after him that get no mention at all around these parts at all. If it wasn’t for Nahright, I wouldn’t have given this guy a second look….
^ I’ll give him that freestyle. I had to listen twice to catch everything. dude a beast, but so are a lot of dudes.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
The Desert Eagle is so huge, what is the necessity of that gun…I want to be able to unload duck move and not fucking shoot my own head off………I take the 22 caliber pistol to do my work
July 30th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
whats poppin everybody?
why Lebron will always be king…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv-5PgP8T94
July 30th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Ya I am really looking into going to go see the White Stripes in September
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
LF: That Maroon 5 Disco song is dope. I think it’s called “Don’t Have A Reason†or some shit. Step your genre game up.
^ On the real, I thought it was just me! That song is dope!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
*stamps “Cosign Ty” on NR Memo*
I love this song.. He fuckin’ killed it, seriously. Maybe some of you just prefer more entertainment in your music, and that’s really okay–I get that–but I prefer that real shit, the blood’n'guts to some fuckin’ broke ass bamma or broke ass NYC cat bragging about shit he doesn’t have or shit he does have but won’t be able to afford once he bricks.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Heard the freestyle again for the first time in a while…….still dope
Joe is talented as fuck…..however I think his lyrics would best be suited in rock format, as evidenced by how well they blend with the track and the message he’s conveying…..you know most of us dudes don’t get with that emotional/serious/real life shit.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
# I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Ya I am really looking into going to go see the White Stripes in September
^^They’re dope as well
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
The Desert Eagle is so huge, what is the necessity of that gun…I want to be able to unload duck move and not fucking shoot my own head off………I take the 22 caliber pistol to do my work
^nah i use the trusty ol’ slingshot and little ziplock baggie full of marbles to do my dirty work. it gets em everytime.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
tyrone biggums Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
*Listens to Broken wings freestyle*
*Blank stare*
….yeah ok and thats not hating ? gtfoh
Rey Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
*Listens to Broken wings freestyle*
*Blank stare*
^^^^^
*kick*
*stunner*
*middle finger* (nh)
*pours beer on J88’s lifeless body*
Wipe me down.
^Okay, can one of ya’ll explain to me what’s the difference between that freestyle & the 74350728057027572 other freestyles he dropped about being depressed? Really, whatever it takes is basiclly the same type of song & I like that way more, 10 minutes is the same type of song & I like that better, with all the other freestyles he dropped before, what sets this apart from them? I want you to explain this to me, nothing groundbreaking about this freestyle, now if I never heard any of the other depressed songs he made, then maybe it would stick out more (nh) but it’s another JB depressed songs in my book
“Nigga you know that
depressed, dust headblack power shit gets no bump in this ride”July 30th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
@ Phuque
It’s called “Makes me wonder”
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
BK- good looks on that JB conspiracy link, i hadnt seen that before
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsB7azU2V4k
^^ is this the Maroon 5 song ya’ll talking about…….cuz it is pretty good
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
# MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
LF: That Maroon 5 Disco song is dope. I think it’s called “Don’t Have A Reason†or some shit. Step your genre game up.
^ On the real, I thought it was just me! That song is dope!
^^Maybe it’s just because it’s a refreshing sound or something…but I’m really diggin’ that joint (nh)….
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
pmass Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Heard the freestyle again for the first time in a while…….still dope
Joe is talented as fuck…..however I think his lyrics would best be suited in rock format, as evidenced by how well they blend with the track and the message he’s conveying…..you know most of us dudes don’t get with that emotional/serious/real life shit.
^^^^
*checks vest*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
>>74350728057027572 other freestyles he dropped about being depressed?
^^*floor*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
aight…
fuck yall too…..
July 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
# MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
LF: That Maroon 5 Disco song is dope. I think it’s called “Don’t Have A Reason†or some shit. Step your genre game up.
^ On the real, I thought it was just me! That song is dope!
^^Maybe it’s just because it’s a refreshing sound or something…but I’m really diggin’ that joint (nh)….
^ I copped the album just because of it.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Furiou$tylez…I’m So Chicago Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
aight…
fuck yall too…..
^ AYYYOOOOO
July 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
whudup Furious? lol
July 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
# MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
@ Phuque
It’s called “Makes me wonderâ€
^^
Word…good lookin’ out…I might just buy their CD today…
@ Hip-hop - take notes.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
@
pockets Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
That’s a one hot line every 3 year avg. and that’s so “LAMMMMMEEEâ€
^no. u r wrong. every line in that song was hot. and thats not his only hot song in three years. so ur wrong. go back to math class and figure out wat average means.
——————–
Let me add this disclaimer for the 3rd graders here that get mad if you don’t agree with everything they say!!!
It’s My Opinion!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
^ I’ll give him that freestyle. I had to listen twice to catch everything
…see thats the key right there…..you have to listen to it twice maybe 3 or 4 times its something missing from hip-hop its called the rewind factor…people dont want the rewind factor anymore….they want some gibberish with a hot flow and crazy swag…
see lil wayne sounds dope at first listen when not really disceting the lyrics…but when you pay attention to what he is saying and hit rewind your like wtf is he even talking about….however when you do the same thing with joey you start to catch things you didnt hear or pick up one the first time…buddens goes over alot of peoples head on that regard and he stays using sports and current events in his punchlines which some people also miss out on…but if you slow it down and really pay attention to his lyrics you will always be impressed….or you just dont appreciate lyricsim….you can tell me whatever you want you dont like his voice he doesnt make good club songs or ignorant songs and thats what you want thats cool and i’m fine with that but dont tell me he isnt crazy lyrical….i clown plug about canibus alot but i have never ever once taken away from canibus lyrical ability ( i’m not even comparing so dont take it there )
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
@
Furiou$tylez…I’m So Chicago Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
aight…
fuck yall too…..
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What you so mad at now (c) Jada
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
I used to hate on Maroon 5 cuz my Baby Moms was always talking about dude being so good lookin’ ………….. and I am not a jelly dude but I can only hear about another dudes looks so much *pause*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
^nah i use the trusty ol’ slingshot and little ziplock baggie full of marbles to do my dirty work. it gets em everytime.
^^*pictures pockets as brown Bart Simpson*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
*stamps*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Lets be real, I got my own problems, why the fuck do I wanna hear another man cry over his records about his problems? A song here, a song there, cool, but that’s all this nigga talks about, he makes depressed people even more depressed, fuck a mic, that nigga needs a shrink
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
@ MadeInMilwaukee - how do you like the album?
July 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
The-XFacta Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
@
Furiou$tylez…I’m So Chicago Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
aight…
fuck yall too…..
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What you so mad at now (c) Jada
^^nobody said whudup to him and he went emo.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
and i promise i’m done talking about budden today i swear
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Anybody here looking foward to the Blood Brothers Mixtape?
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
@ Rey
No disrespect fam….no need to vest-check
I wasn’t being sacrastic, I was being real with it.
You did see me say he was dope.
What I said didn’t make at least a little sense?
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Lets be real, I got my own problems, why the fuck do I wanna hear another man cry over his records about his problems? A song here, a song there, cool, but that’s all this nigga talks about, he makes depressed people even more depressed, fuck a mic, that nigga needs a shrink
^^^
I respect that.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
See Ty and Rey, I tried to like Budden but I dont really feel him…….though I do think he is quite dope just cant listen to him ………I am wierd though Cuz I will Roll with Keith Murray all day or Game or Lil Weezy or Scarface or Jeezy or WHite Stripes or Al Green or Vicente Fernandez ……….so I dont think I am a hater …………I just dont like it
July 30th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Big Homie Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Anybody here looking foward to the Blood Brothers Mixtape?
^^ *two snaps* Ya Put me on the forefront of that Bandwagon …….no disrespect to all the haters
July 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Lets be real, I got my own problems, why the fuck do I wanna hear another man cry over his records about his problems? A song here, a song there, cool, but that’s all this nigga talks about, he makes depressed people even more depressed, fuck a mic, that nigga needs a shrink
====
when you look at some of the clowns getting albums out before him that are waaay less talented you can’t blame him for needing a shrink.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
tyrone biggums Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
^ I’ll give him that freestyle. I had to listen twice to catch everything
…see thats the key right there…..you have to listen to it twice maybe 3 or 4 times its something missing from hip-hop its called the rewind factor…people dont want the rewind factor anymore….they want some gibberish with a hot flow and crazy swag…
see lil wayne sounds dope at first listen when not really disceting the lyrics…but when you pay attention to what he is saying and hit rewind your like wtf is he even talking about….however when you do the same thing with joey you start to catch things you didnt hear or pick up one the first time…buddens goes over alot of peoples head on that regard and he stays using sports and current events in his punchlines which some people also miss out on…but if you slow it down and really pay attention to his lyrics you will always be impressed….or you just dont appreciate lyricsim….you can tell me whatever you want you dont like his voice he doesnt make good club songs or ignorant songs and thats what you want thats cool and i’m fine with that but dont tell me he isnt crazy lyrical….i clown plug about canibus alot but i have never ever once taken away from canibus lyrical ability ( i’m not even comparing so dont take it there )
^ As far as Wayne, on mixtapes yeah he does that a lot of times. But like Budden, he has moments when all the praise is justified (i.e. Hollywood Divorce). To me its do or die for Wayne. The Carter 3 has to be a classic if he wants to stand next to the greats.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Let me add this disclaimer for the 3rd graders here that get mad if you don’t agree with everything they say!!!
It’s My Opinion!
^^LOL @ your constant contradiction. Didn’t you just say this:
“no. u r wrong. every line in that song was hot. and thats not his only hot song in three years. so ur wrong. go back to math class and figure out wat average means.”
…looks like you can dish it out, but you can’t take it….nh…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
I dont drink coffee but I need like one can of Coke a day ………Just on 12oz can but I think I have a problem, No Joe Budden
July 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
@ Pmass– No, as a matter of fact, I was thinking dude needs to holla at Pete Wentz.. He’s the bass player from FOB that mainly writes the lyrics for the band.. He’s got his own label.. I think with his help Joey could actually drop an album, and the hooks would be mad clever too with Pete and Patrick Stump (lead singer of FOB) on board.
Pete has the same emo lyrics or whatever but he’s got a sense of humor about them that makes you go “That was funny, but man, that must’ve been fucked up to go thru”
July 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Id rather listen to a Weezy/Juelz mixtape than a Weezy/Game. That’s just me though
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
@
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
See Ty and Rey, I tried to like Budden but I dont really feel him…….though I do think he is quite dope just cant listen to him ………I am wierd though Cuz I will Roll with Keith Murray all day or Game or Lil Weezy or Scarface or Jeezy or WHite Stripes or Al Green or Vicente Fernandez ……….so I dont think I am a hater …………I just dont like it
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I just don’t like it=The New Hate
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
tyrone biggums Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
and i promise i’m done talking about budden today i swear
^oh no your not, I want you to explain (you or rey) what makes this song soooooo hot compared to his other freestyles about the same shit? I wanna know (no J. budden & lil mo joint) what makes this the one joint that makes you say “Budden is the great one” & don’t say the lyrics go over my head cause whoever posted that track on you tube put the words next to the video, I listened & read every word to that song & my opinion hasen’t changed, it’s normal compared to his other songs about the same shit.
How the fuck can he say he’s ARod when he stays in the same lane? I lost the lil respect I had for budden
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
# green eyes Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
BK- good looks on that JB conspiracy link, i hadnt seen that before
*no doubt*
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
@
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
I dont drink coffee but I need like one can of Coke a day ………Just on 12oz can but I think I have a problem, No Joe Budden
————————-
12oz of Coke, will have your fucking nose numb for two days!
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
@ MadeInMilwaukee - how do you like the album?
^ Ive been stuck on the song, but I said I was going to give the rest of it a listen today.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
>>I just don’t like it=The New Hate
^^Vitamin Water is the new Haterade
July 30th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Let me add this disclaimer for the 3rd graders here that get mad if you don’t agree with everything they say!!!
It’s My Opinion!
^i was just playing….but for real tho ur opinion doesnt matter, thats my opinion
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Id rather listen to a Weezy/Juelz mixtape than a Weezy/Game. That’s just me though
^werd
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
^Okay, can one of ya’ll explain to me what’s the difference between that freestyle & the 74350728057027572 other freestyles he dropped about being depressed?
~~~~~~~~~~
LMAO. I actually fuck with Buddens music but that shit was funny…and true.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Rey Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Jeter- 4 rings.
Jorge Posada- 4 rings
A-Rod– Zero Rings.
Jay- 3 classic albums (RD, BP, Black Album) = Jeter
Nas has “rings†platinum albums, respect, etc. = Posada
Budden = A-Rod.. but A-Rod (nh) always fails when the game is on the line.. He’s been in the post season 3 times with NYY.. It can be argued then that Budden has only been to the post season once..
Sheeit, if anything, Budden’s selling himself SHORT by saying he’s A-Rod..
He’s more like Dan Marino.. mad numbers, obvi skills, but only got to the Superbowl once..
Or more likely, he’s like Patrick Ewing.. Yeah, Budden = Ewing.
^Nas isn’t Posada..
SMH..at you giving Budden AROD Status…
this is how it is…
Jeter = jay-z
AROD = Nas
thats how it is in the rap game and def jam..
stop giving Budden too much credit…He aint no AROD, he aint posada, he aint joe torre, he aint nothing…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
The Carter 3 has to be a classic if he wants to stand next to the greats.
^^ even if its classic alot of people will not put their prejudice aside to give it that lofty praise….and thats why I think he is actually underrated and not overrated. Overrated means the consensus think he is fucking dope but the Consensus dont think he is dope. Weezy can say he is the best all day but he isnt the judge, the judge is the masses who listen.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Joe Budden needs Prozac
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Big Homie Sayz:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Id rather listen to a Weezy/Juelz mixtape than a Weezy/Game. That’s just me though
==
co-sigga
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Budden=Cano Robinson
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I wish someone would convince Budden to commit suicide…you know those depressed people will do anything you tell them…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Joe 88 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
tyrone biggums Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
and i promise i’m done talking about budden today i swear
^oh no your not, I want you to explain (you or rey) what makes this song soooooo hot compared to his other freestyles about the same shit? I wanna know (no J. budden & lil mo joint) what makes this the one joint that makes you say “Budden is the great one†& don’t say the lyrics go over my head cause whoever posted that track on you tube put the words next to the video, I listened & read every word to that song & my opinion hasen’t changed, it’s normal compared to his other songs about the same shit.
How the fuck can he say he’s ARod when he stays in the same lane? I lost the lil respect I had for budden
^^^^^
Ughh.. Gimme a minute.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
See Ty and Rey, I tried to like Budden but I dont really feel him…….though I do think he is quite dope just cant listen to him
^fucking hater
July 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Big Homie Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Id rather listen to a Weezy/Juelz mixtape than a Weezy/Game. That’s just me though
^^ ya me too but I want both cuz I am greedy like that or why cant they menoige an album
July 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
somebody send me a link to that maroon 5…feels weird typin that on nahright but whatever.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
See Ty and Rey, I tried to like Budden but I dont really feel him…….though I do think he is quite dope just cant listen to him ………I am wierd though Cuz I will Roll with Keith Murray all day or Game or Lil Weezy or Scarface or Jeezy or WHite Stripes or Al Green or Vicente Fernandez ……….so I dont think I am a hater …………I just dont like it
….i never said anyone was a hater…but i know you dont just hate to hate anyway…
….i just said i think he goes over some peoples heads because you do have to rewind and listen a couple times to catch what he is saying and most people dont care to do that anymore…its sad cause thats what i was raised to think was the most important part of rapping….it’s like if you can make a movie thats great once but after you watch it a second and third time you see 29 flaws…or you watch a movie like usual suspects where everytime you watch it you see something new that makes you be like damn what a great movie….thats how i was raised on judeging hip-hop skills maybe others had different….and really i’m ok with that…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
If Lil Wayne, Juelz Santana, The Game combined and a made a team…They would be the hottest team in the game….real talk…
July 30th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
The Carter 3 has to be a classic if he wants to stand next to the greats.
^^ even if its classic alot of people will not put their prejudice aside to give it that lofty praise….and thats why I think he is actually underrated and not overrated. Overrated means the consensus think he is fucking dope but the Consensus dont think he is dope. Weezy can say he is the best all day but he isnt the judge, the judge is the masses who listen.
^ Yeah, but you cant win everyone over. Critical praise and 2X platinum and he will be good.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Lil Wayne is the Hottest MC in the Game right now….did you guys see that shit on MTV..
1. Lil Wayne
2. T.I.
3. The Game
I have the The Game over T.I.
The Game > T.I.
lyrically….
July 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I wish someone would convince Budden to commit suicide…you know those depressed people will do anything you tell them…
^Really, budden is starting to get in my catagory I call “no discussion”, as is lupe, I know they can rap, but I know for a fact I won’t go looking for any of there work so I refuse to talk about them, @ one point I had enuff respect for budden to make fun of him, but deep down inside (nh) respected him & enjoyed some of his music, but if that’s all he’s bringing to the table then he’s placed in that catagory.
SMH @ myself for really expecting him to rap about something else other than being depressed
What up AzIz
July 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
@ Rey-
Pete Wentz and FOB fall under what genre? It could be FOB, Maroon 5, whatever….it doesn’t matter what genre…..he needs the music that best suits his lyrics…..all I know is whatever needs to be done, HE needs to do it
July 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
ifuxxx@gmail.com hit me in the pockets with that Maroon 5 please, no I got Cheesburgers
July 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
# AzIz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
somebody send me a link to that maroon 5…feels weird typin that on nahright but whatever.
^^The single or the album? Don’t know why I’m asking because I have neither…but just wondering I guess.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
@ Greeny..
wha did you think of the overall theory?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
@Rey
I can listen to FOB and not change it, I think thats a start ………..not skipping a track when it pops up on random = the new love
July 30th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Buddens needs some self esteem….Rap isn’t rock, punk, emo, heavy metal…Rappers aren’t supposed to rap about depression, medication, suicidal thoughts…
July 30th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
who didnt see lil wayne coming in at number one on that list.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
That broken wings freestyle is sick!!! And I dont even like budden.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
*Buddens = Budden
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Rappers aren’t supposed to rap about depression, medication, suicidal thoughts…
^ i never heard of that rule
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
It would of been nice to see Chamillionare on there
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Maroon 5 > Joe Budden
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Lil Wayne > T.I.
The Game > T.I.
Kanye West > T.I.
50 Cent > T.I.
Why was T.I. ranked so high?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
*on MTV’s list not this song by the way*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
so Budden gets clowned for rapping about what he’s going through in his life, but dudes like Wayne or Game get props for spitting some of the fakest shit ever heard and they get props. Does that make any sense??
July 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
I’m the Air Jordan of VitaminWater. 50
curtis sept 11
July 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
TI is ranked high because his name is short for Tall Isreali , a misnomer if I ever saw one
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
How the fuck can he say he’s ARod when he stays in the same lane? I lost the lil respect I had for budden
…walk with me here…its a mataphor ( you do still know what that is right ? )
so the new york yankees have 2 shortstops…the better one is playing 3rd….
def jam has these 2 rappers ( jay and joey )…..
jay = jeter
the dude who has been here a decade plus won the rings he is that dude
joe = the 3rd baseman (c) land
the new guy coming into the team that no matter what he does no matter how many home runs he hits no matter how much better a defender he is that jeter…no matter if he bats .500…he can never replaced the golden child derek jeter…
and you think its a stretch explain why the 3rd baseman is most likely gonna try and leave the yankees after the season
see all that probably went over your head cause you didnt understand the detals like that….if you really paid attention to those lyrics and tell me that werent sick i dont know what to tell you…tell me they are depressing fine go listen to your make believe fairytale music…thats fine just dont tell me you cant see whats impressive about those lyrics….
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Lil Wayne > T.I.
The Game > T.I.
Kanye West > T.I.
50 Cent > T.I.
Why was T.I. ranked so high?
^^ Because of his album, the sales, his videos/singles, remix he’s on..etc. Clifford has a song out with a Pussy Cat Doll for crying out loud. That’s why.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Joe Budden always plays the victim role, he wants you to feel bad for him…Always rapping about depression…He’s a weakling…
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
# hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Buddens needs some self esteem….Rap isn’t rock, punk, emo, heavy metal…Rappers aren’t supposed to rap about depression, medication, suicidal thoughts…
^^…and ferrets aren’t supposed to talk, but you don’t hear any of us complaining. Slow down on what rap is and isn’t…ain’t no handbook.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
am i the only one who doesnt think budden talks about suicide in every song? im not even his biggest fan or anything but have u guys ever head dumb out?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
It never fails…everytime the subject about Buddens comes up around this place, everybody starts getting all sensative and feelings are left hurt…
First it was just Tyronne and Billz holding up the Buddens’ flag, but now we have Rey coming in with pom-poms on too now…
Let’s just agree to disagree because most folks minds are not going to change on the subject, and the reality is that Joe Budden doesn’t give a phuck what we think about him so whatever.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
*hearRd
July 30th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
>>Joe Budden doesn’t give a phuck what we think about him so whatever.
^^Yes he does.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
darn it……all these damn posts..cant keep up..lil wayne please go away *sighs*…….*waves @ every1*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
@ J88–
I asked myself the same question.. “Are all his songs like this?” And the answer is obviously, “No”.
The thing about this guy–at least for me–is that he is saying what I don’t know how to say.
He’s saying what I’m afraid to say. (NH on this whole thing, let’s be real for a minute).
For me, this song stands out first cuz of the beat. That’s a classic song by itself. Then ‘Pac made “Until the end of time” with it, and then Budden did his track–and you gotta come with some dope shit to jack a ‘Pac or BIG beat/sample (no murder inc).
For him to come out and say what’s on his mind, how he’s feeling–that’s powerful to me. He coulda made a punch-liney freestyle about the usual bullshit, or current events or sports–but he managed to combine that stuff with deep lyrics, true lyrics, about himself and his life.
Truth be told, I’ve hunted around for more songs like this, and ten minutes and whatever it takes were the only ones I found close to this impact, to saying what he’s saying.
How many rappers do you know would truly say something like “That’s my mom in me, I love ni**as I shouldn’t” Most rappers would talk about how much of a Capo Don Boss they are–they aren’t gonna admit that they got hurt, that people they trusted took advantage of them.
Like I said before– Him saying “Dudes wanna threaten me, ruin my health/lemme teach you a little something about depression–ain’t shit you can do to me I ain’t already thought about doin’ to myself”–that’s me, homey–that’s my life. Matter fact, I’m willing to bet that’s a lot of people’s lives on this site, in this world, sheeit, on your block or in your own inner circle. The fact is–his emoness–he’s saying it. He’s on the front line going “Yeah, I’ve got issues but I’m not running from them.”
Also, he says “I’m the voice of the youth living with no reason
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Budden=Cano Robinson
….lmao see i’d actually co-sign that but i dont think it will help cause i’m a cano fan i think he is gonna be one of the best 2nd baseman for a while once he learns some patience when batting….
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Rappers aren’t supposed to rap about depression, medication, suicidal thoughts…
——–
*shakes head*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
I got a link to that maroon 5 if anyone wants it.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Landlord already said that he doesn’t believe that Joe Budden is A-Rod
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Whaddup candyraindrops?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Candygurl…what up!
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
the new guy coming into the team that no matter what he does no matter how many home runs he hits no matter how much better a defender he is that jeter…no matter if he bats .500…he can never replaced the golden child derek jeter
^plus the part where he doesnt wanna play anywhere else because this the only place he has something to prove
July 30th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
# MadeInMilwaukee….Since1979 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
I got a link to that maroon 5 if anyone wants it.
^^*Raises hand*
phuquedaworld at hotmail dot com
July 30th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
# hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Buddens needs some self esteem….Rap isn’t rock, punk, emo, heavy metal…Rappers aren’t supposed to rap about depression, medication, suicidal thoughts…
^^…and ferrets aren’t supposed to talk, but you don’t hear any of us complaining. Slow down on what rap is and isn’t…ain’t no handbook.
^We cool we aint got no problems…nikkuh
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Lil Wayne > T.I.
The Game > T.I.
Kanye West > T.I.
50 Cent > T.I.
Why was T.I. ranked so high?
====
Only 3 artists in the last year went plat. He deserves to be on the list off that alone. Luda should be on there too. Not sure why they left him off it.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
>so Budden gets clowned for rapping about what he’s going through in his life, but dudes like Wayne or Game get props for spitting some of the fakest shit ever heard and they get props. Does that make any sense??
^um…..yep, that’s just how it is. Naw i’m just joking, but i’m tired of hearing him rap about the same shit the same way & people say he’s great, no he’s comfortable being in the spot he’s in, atleast wayne tries different things, flows etc, like the “feel like dying” track, budden wouldn’t even touch a track like that, well maybe he would cause he always feels like dying, but w/e, once again I don’t care if a niggas a gangsta, I know rap is entertainment & budden is as entertaining as watching paint dry, so i’ll take fiction over depressed rap anyday.
*Currently going threw J Budden tracks over @ youtube*
Kiss yo ass goodbye freestyle = wack
Whoa freestyle = wack
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
They put Jim Jones on that list…hilarity…
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
hey Phuque and my favorite blogger Jamz! *lol*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
ifuxxx@gmail.com
hit me Made with that maroon 5 thanks
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
I agree with biggums in that people are becoming mentally lazy when it comes to music. the other day I heard someone say that he doesn’t listen to little brother, common or the roots because he only listens to “what’s hot” right now. he said he wasn’t into all that “conscious shit.” I tried to explain to him that he’s lettin the radio and television decide for him what he should listen to rather than giving shit a chance in determining if he actually likes it but mufuckas aren’t trying to expand, grow or even understand anything other than what’s force fed to the public. I don’t have a problem with a lot of the commercial stuff on the radio but I do believe that there should be a balance.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
whudup LL(not cool J)
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
^Really, budden is starting to get in my catagory I call “no discussionâ€, as is lupe, I know they can rap, but I know for a fact I won’t go looking for any of there work so I refuse to talk about them,
……and thats fine but you dont normally act like he can rap but w/e w/e
w/e…..you look for different shit in your music cause guess what i think lupe is right up there…..my artists i’m looking for right now probably dont show up on your list anywhere so why do we have to do this repeatedly
July 30th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Yes because saying that you are A-Rod of Def Jam/Rap Game is so conscious
FOH!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
broke buttons>Joe Buddens
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
@ made
send the link my way please
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
…walk with me here…its a mataphor ( you do still know what that is right ? )
*Reads biggums breakdown*
But he’s not better than jay-z so that whole metaphor was pointless, that’s what i’m tryna say, I know he thinks he is, but he doesen’t live on the same planet as us humans, that’s why his music sounds like that
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Yo I am a Lupe stan but thats where it ends, no 2x
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
When will Joe Budden be dropped from Def Jam…I want to see him release an album through Koch…
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
new post at my spot folks *waves @ all the lurkers* …U know someone should give an award , shout out, something to ALL THE LURKERS!…lol….eskays numbers *and every other blogger*= *lurkers lurking jim jones voice*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
@ J88–
I asked myself the same question.. “Are all his songs like this?” And the answer is obviously, “No”.
The thing about this guy–at least for me–is that he is saying what I don’t know how to say.
He’s saying what I’m afraid to say. (NH on this whole thing, let’s be real for a minute).
For me, this song stands out first cuz of the beat. That’s a classic song by itself. Then ‘Pac made “Until the end of time” with it, and then Budden did his track–and you gotta come with some dope shit to jack a ‘Pac or BIG beat/sample (no murder inc).
For him to come out and say what’s on his mind, how he’s feeling–that’s powerful to me. He coulda made a punch-liney freestyle about the usual bullshit, or current events or sports–but he managed to combine that stuff with deep lyrics, true lyrics, about himself and his life.
Truth be told, I’ve hunted around for more songs like this, and ten minutes and whatever it takes were the only ones I found close to this impact, to saying what he’s saying.
How many rappers do you know would truly say something like “That’s my mom in me, I love ni**as I shouldn’t” Most rappers would talk about how much of a Capo Don Boss they are–they aren’t gonna admit that they got hurt, that people they trusted took advantage of them.
Like I said before– Him saying “Dudes wanna threaten me, ruin my health/lemme teach you a little something about depression–ain’t shit you can do to me I ain’t already thought about doin’ to myself”–that’s me, homey–that’s my life. Matter fact, I’m willing to bet that’s a lot of people’s lives on this site, in this world, sheeit, on your block or in your own inner circle. The fact is–his emoness–he’s saying it. He’s on the front line going “Yeah, I’ve got issues but I’m not running from them.”
Also, he says “I’m the voice of the youth living with no reason, fuck record sales, I give them something to believe in”– Dude, I lived for Puffy back in 1998 the way I live for ‘Ye now, and with all the ghostwriting allegations and hating and shit–It’s hard to identify with someone and go, “Okay, this guy understands me–my struggle (mein kampf–step your German game up)..So when he says that shit, you know he’s not just trying to sell you a cd or a fuckin’ shirt or some VITAMIN WATER.. He’s trying to say “It’s gonna get better, shit–It’s GOTTA get better”..
Then he goes into the politics of his situation.. How many rappers go on and kiss ass and drop shitty songs just to get put out? Um, yeah. All of the ones out that don’t have big guns backing them–ie ‘Ye, Jay, or Just Blaaaaze.. He talks about the crab in the bucket mentality that NY has suffered from ever since C-Jack came along..
He’s talking about 3 or 4 different things in this one song, flowing from one to the other almost effortlessly..
He’s got punchliney songs. He’s got “Fuck Def Jam” songs. He’s got “Emo-er than Rey” songs.
He took all of that, and put them into one song, over a classic beat/cut, and made himself an anthem, and a track that I myself can put on any day and FEEL, even when the world is crashing down–and nobody’s life on here is that sweet to not have days like that.
So I’ll be that emo ayo dude that Morph and Phuque love to kill on here, but dammit, I’m not gonna ever be ashamed of that shit…just like Joe Budden isn’t ashamed of it.
No Man Crush.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
A-Rod > D. Jeter
July 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
# LL(not the rappa) Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
hey Phuque and my favorite blogger Jamz! *lol*
^^
Damn….I got demoted that quick?
*erases LL’s phone #*
*calls greenie back*
“Yeah…about Saturday…well it turns out I actually am free…”
July 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
How bout we let Budden R.I.P. for the rest of the day. Or R.I.Pieces, depending on what side you’re on. nhoc.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
I Fux Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
ifuxxx@gmail.com
hit me Made with that maroon 5 thanks
^ I just sent it.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
AzIz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
@ made
send the link my way please
^ Whats your addy?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
am i the only one who doesnt think budden talks about suicide in every song? im not even his biggest fan or anything but have u guys ever head dumb out?
^He doesen’t talk about being depressed every song, but his best songs are about being depressed, that’s what i’m saying. my 2 favorite songs by yo is about being depressed, see how Jay-Z best songs range out, not about the same things, budden best songs IMO are about the same thing (except 3 sides)
July 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
@ shanti/aziz - yeah….i have a friend ( smh he actually produces too and is pretty good but thats not the point ) who i was talking to awhile ago about someone i forget who probably saigon grafh or joell ortiz or someone….and my boy was hating and when i was really asking him why he was hating and what he was feeling( nhoc ) he actually straight up said
” i don’t like music that makes me think i just wanna hear a hot beat with someone flowing smooth on it ”
…he really could care less if it was people mumbling as long as it flowed….now he produces so he just cares about beats you think….no cause he really has prefences to certain rappers….and really it seems for no apparent reason…..
July 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
BKScribe Says:
@ Greeny..
wha did you think of the overall theory?
^ i don’t think its entirely off base. I mean I love Hov as much as the next person, but dude did whatever he had to do to get to the top, fuck whoever got in his way. And I respect that to an extent. But to anyone with an ounce of industry knowledge cold see that Joey was getting a bum deal, because at the time he was set to drop, he really was looked at, industry wide, as an artist the represented the essence of Def Jam, a rapper’s rapper that could was had street respect, that had commercial appeal and had ridiculous skill, could make decent club tracks and tracks that the die hard fans could feel. He was an MC, what Def Jam was built on.
But as history has proven, Hov doesn’t like competition. Just check his stable– all the Roc-a-fella cats were aight. Some of them could be lyrical beasts if hey tried hard, but it was a very calculated move on his art to never sign an artist that had even a slight percentage of the crossover appeal that he himself represented. Just looking and Beans and Freeway would scare “mainstream” consumers off. Bleak had the looks, and I think he;s decent on the mic, but his biggest hit, while it might have technically been on his album, was lets face it, a Jay Z song (Is That Your Chick).
So yeah, BK…i can def see how there were some big moves and shakers blocking Joe. Its fucked up though, because ul;timately its a move that ended up shooting Def Jam, and the East Coast in the foot. They held back on a cat that could really make major moves, allowing for mediocrity to sneak in the back door, in a desperate and faulty attempt to secure Hovs place at the throne, despite of the fact that his place was already secure. Joe wouldn’t have taken his throne, but he def could have come in as the King of the new generation.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
G7 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
whudup LL(not cool J)
^^whats good G7…shanti….whats happening?..fuxie, any stories?…..green, good post…furious =rat-tat tat..lol….ty my jersey peoples..joe88…..*2 many of y’all*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
@ made
shanti.shante@gmail.com
smh.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
i got to go i’ll be back…….1……
July 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
AzIz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
I agree with biggums in that people are becoming mentally lazy when it comes to music. the other day I heard someone say that he doesn’t listen to little brother, common or the roots because he only listens to “what’s hot†right now. he said he wasn’t into all that “conscious shit.†I tried to explain to him that he’s lettin the radio and television decide for him what he should listen to rather than giving shit a chance in determining if he actually likes it but mufuckas aren’t trying to expand, grow or even understand anything other than what’s force fed to the public. I don’t have a problem with a lot of the commercial stuff on the radio but I do believe that there should be a balance.
^^I feel you Shantilly, but what do you think is accurate balance, since things seem lopsided?
I mean there are so many venues to hear music that I rarely turn on the radio at all these days. I watch a video here and there, but even with my limited exposure…I hear songs like “Wipe Me Down,” “Hey BayBay,” “My Lipgloss Is Poppin,” “Rollin Like A Rock Star,” etc all the dayum time. I’m still waiting to hear Common ft. Dwele - The People track on the radio and video countdowns….SMH
July 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
aziz?shanti are the same person?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Phuque Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
# LL(not the rappa) Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
hey Phuque and my favorite blogger Jamz! *lol*
^^
Damn….I got demoted that quick?
*erases LL’s phone #*
*calls greenie back*
“Yeah…about Saturday…well it turns out I actually am free…â€
^^^damn it!…..gotta stop thinking outloud, Phuque!
July 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Chris Brown > Joe Budden
July 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
G7 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
hoodtalk.org Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Lil Wayne > T.I.
The Game > T.I.
Kanye West > T.I.
50 Cent > T.I.
Why was T.I. ranked so high?
====
Only 3 artists in the last year went plat. He deserves to be on the list off that alone. Luda should be on there too. Not sure why they left him off it.
^^ TI probably told them to leave him off or Bill O’Reilly was on the panel. Same reason why Snoop wasnt on there. He had a good year and was on alot of other people’s tracks as well. Surprised Fab wasnt on there as well considering as commercialiized as he is.
I have a list of mine on my blog for those who care…lol
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
whuddupwhudddup
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
@ made
yeah its me! I was wondering why u were asking for my addy.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
aziz?shanti are the same person?
——–
*puts milwaukee’s late pass in the shredder*
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
What up LL? Long time no see
July 30th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
456, you still in the muthaland?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
what up 456, LL, Shanti
July 30th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Graph “yeah right” is one of the best street joints i heard all year.reall gully and authentic.
game fell off.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Shanti > Ashanti
;)
July 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
But as history has proven, Hov doesn’t like competition. Just check his stable– all the Roc-a-fella cats were aight. Some of them could be lyrical beasts if hey tried hard, but it was a very calculated move on his art to never sign an artist that had even a slight percentage of the crossover appeal that he himself represented. Just looking and Beans and Freeway would scare “mainstream†consumers off. Bleak had the looks, and I think he;s decent on the mic, but his biggest hit, while it might have technically been on his album, was lets face it, a Jay Z song (Is That Your Chick).
^^^^^^^Although I agree,this sounds like a snippet from the Calvin Klein bitter show.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
456
what up.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
AzIz Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
@ made
yeah its me! I was wondering why u were asking for my addy.
Plug Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
aziz?shanti are the same person?
——–
*puts milwaukee’s late pass in the shredder*
^ I wasnt around for the name change. I just sent it Shanti
July 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
G7 Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
furious =rat-tat tat..lol
lol…what up ma? so when u gonna let me lick the wrappa [nhjic]?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Whaddup 456
July 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Big Homie Says:
July 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
What up LL? Long time no see
^^whats good big homie……456 long tiiimmmme…..hows it going in ACCRA?
July 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
lol @ big homie
what’s goin on greenie and LL.