Ethan Brown Analyzes the Supreme Transcripts

 
Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff (Right) with associate James "Wall" Corley in better times. 

As you may have heard, notorious Queens hustler Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff was sentenced to life in prison yesterday (February 9) for ordering the murders of Troy Singleton and rapper Erick "E Money Bags" Smith. Unfortunatley, I haven’t had the time lately to follow the trial as closely as I would’ve liked to, but I’ve been doing some catching up. Ethan Brown, author of the book Queens Reigns Supreme, has been blogging the trial over at his website, and has the first two posts of a four part series on the trial transcripts up now. Ethan has an intimate understanding of all of the events surrounding the murders, Supreme’s past, and how the whole situation connects to the world of hip-hop, so if you’re looking for some interesting insight on the case, he’s the man to turn to.

Trial transcript pt. 1  

Trial transcript pt. 2 

UPDATE: Trial transcript pt. 3 


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81 Responses to “Ethan Brown Analyzes the Supreme Transcripts”

  1. D. Billz Says:

    That’s a whole lotta readin’.

  2. SiKK Says:

    2nd

  3. D. Billz Says:

    “Detectives found this videotape in a Baltimore stash house that they say was operated by Supreme.”

    ^So THIS is what that was about. Never understood the connection until now.

  4. D. Billz Says:

    “OK, so now let’s get to some background about the Smith murder. Prosecutors say that in December of 1999, Supreme and Black Just got into a heated argument with Smith and his cousin Hommo (short for “homicide”; and no this isn’t the same “Hommo” who I implicated in 50 Cent’s shooting in Queens Reigns Supreme). Guns were pulled. Supreme’s gun jams and Black Just is shot. Supreme then rushes Black Just to the hospital. Jon Ragin, a cooperator in the case, testified that Supreme said of the incident “I pulled a gun, it jammed, I ditched it at the scene, and then drove Blacky to the hospital.” But by the time Supreme and Black Just arrive at the hospital it’s too late. Black Just’s wounds are too serious and he dies. Supreme, prosecutors say, vows to get revenge.”

    ^Gun jam but Black is hit? Missing piece of that puzzle.

  5. eskay Says:

    Just was Preme’s man. Guns came out, Preme’s gun jammed and Just got hit.

  6. nation Says:

    yo es, i know ethan brown is your man and all, but gat damn this guy is infatuated with these dudes. it’s his job though, so it’s all good… i’m juss saying

  7. eskay Says:

    >>it’s his job though, so it’s all good… i’m juss saying

    *blank stare*

  8. nation Says:

    >> *blank stare*

    anything to get your attention, to tell you the truth

  9. nation Says:

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  10. D. Billz Says:

    Just was Preme’s man. Guns came out, Preme’s gun jammed and Just got hit.

    ^By who?

  11. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    The prosecutions case seems hell weak. A good lawyer should have been able to beat this. This shit is all circumstanal(sp) to me.

  12. nation Says:

    smh @ that ring-around-the-rosee-pocket-full-of-cracks picture

  13. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    No way on earth he beating this on appeal though.

  14. D. Billz Says:

    Milly Mil… What’s good hooligan?

    Nation aka Quick… What up lil’ homie?

    smh @ gotta check my oil. It’s too brick for this ish.

  15. nation Says:

    okay, since this post has gone 3 comments staying on topic, how funny is this shit about weezy:

    He raps about bullshit. How much of a feat is it, really, to rap effortlessly about things that don’t really require any effort in the first place? I realize rapping about being hot and riding around in your car and what have you is what they do in the South, but still.

    ^ truth

  16. D. Billz Says:

    Red Run apts… very familiar. Wrong choice of residence though. Too much traffic in and out of that area.

  17. D. Billz Says:

    Bad choice*

  18. nation Says:

    YN knows where it’s at

  19. el feces loco Says:

    KING KONGGGG KING KING KI KING KONGGGGGGG….waddup weekend crew? haha..DBIlly aka Bmo Careful, NATO, ES, MADE, what it do what it do?

    @Red Run Apts…that shit sounds like a casket farm

    Youre being dumb smart when you dont talk on the phone about illegal activities but then text each other back n forth about said activities.

  20. D. Billz Says:

    Feces aka Keystylin’ on Em… What’s good hooligan?

    Red Run Apts is in a nice area called Owings Mills right outside of B’more. One of my homies live over there. Madd white people live over there and you’re WAY too easy to spot if you have some type of “activity” goin’ on.

  21. D. Billz Says:

    Peedi Crakk… “Callin’ My Jack”… lava.

  22. Two-Times Says:

    Supreme Lost……………….. 50 Won….

    Now y’all hate on that…

  23. nation Says:

    >> Supreme Lost……………….. 50 Won….

    no. nas lost.

  24. JOFFE JO Says:

    no we lost another negro bites the dust

  25. D. Billz Says:

    I aint a saint, but I’m sure Preme knew the possible consequences of his actions.

  26. JOFFE JO Says:

    sure that’s why don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time……

  27. el feces loco Says:

    Man I just came from Harlem, I seen the most beautifullest Muslim woman outside of Sylvia’s rockin three fourths of cloth, ..you know when you see a chick and you fall in love with her for like 5seconds?…I wanted to say something to her like ” I don’t have knowledge of self can you please take a lifetime to enlighten me?”…but I was in full thug mode ACG Boots, loose fitting hoodie and Apache leather jacket…so I deferred but damn..she was a real looker.
    ________________________________________

    Red Run Apts is in a nice area called Owings Mills right outside of B’more. One of my homies live over there. Madd white people live over there and you’re WAY too easy to spot if you have some type of “activity” goin’ on.

    ^^^^^^^^Oh..shit sounded like some New Orleans tenement style dwelling.
    _____________________________________________
    Peedi Crakk… “Callin’ My Jack”… lava.

    ^^^^^^^That one song itself needs a RIAA disclaimer.

  28. el feces loco Says:

    Word..to me..when you in the streets and you dealing with killers killing other killers then that’s the game, to laugh like 50 did when Preme got convicted is not gangsta..real street niggaz want that nigga to go free so they can kill him themselves…Now when niggas get convicted for rapes, and murdering innocents..thats laughable.

  29. G7 Says:

    1 year later r.i.p. J-Dilla

  30. eskay Says:

    >>I aint a saint, but I’m sure Preme knew the possible consequences of his actions.

    basically. he was lucky he ever got back on the streets to (allegedly) pull off these two hits.

  31. iLL Change Says:

    how come Cam’s full length 50 diss hasnt surfaced yet?

  32. D. Billz Says:

    so I deferred but damn..she was a real looker.

    ^Step ya Righteous Holla game up.

  33. iLL Change Says:

    how come Cam’s full length 50 dis hasnt surfaced yet?

  34. iLL Change Says:

    comments blocked

  35. iLL Change Says:

    fuuuuuuuck

  36. el feces loco Says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=eQrf5VO4uAA -E Money Bags feat prodigy

    Word..I remember when E Money bags got clapped too, like a few weeks before(maybe more) he was on the radio screamin on Jay and em, cause somebody from Jay’s crew was calling themselves E Money..he used to roll with Pac hard too like best friends type shit but after Pac got shot Pac flipped on him..or vice versa..brain’s kinna hazey(pun intended)

    “to that other nigga that was down for me thats what he said/ switched sides I guess them other niggas wanted him dead”(c)PAC..speakin on E Money.

  37. D. Billz Says:

    cause somebody from Jay’s crew was calling themselves E Money

    ^I thought the dude in Jay’s crew was H Money Bags.

  38. nation Says:

    >> I thought the dude in Jay’s crew was H Money Bags.

    youngest a&r in the game

  39. el feces loco Says:

    # D. Billz Says:
    February 10th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    so I deferred but damn..she was a real looker.

    ^Step ya Righteous Holla game up.

    ^^Word..I can still see her when I close my eyes…straight goddess…what should I have said?..she was like 6ft too.

    SMH@ this seasons weed being collie bud..like 5 niggas asked me if I wanted collie..knowing that shit is last seasons Arizona…for once it’d be refreshing to have a nigga just be like “I got some reefer son” ..haha…When Dr.Dre Chronic dropped in 92 niggas lost they minds with the weed brands.

    A.D.-88-Reefer. Pot

    88-99-Skunk,Woolie blunts, wet, leak, Chronic, Lamb Spread, Acapulco, Afghanistan, Beedies, Cambodia, dust blunts, Hawaiian,mushrooms, mestabs, Chocolate, Panama.

    99-now- Ari, All kinna Hazes. Kushes, E-pills

    Disclaimer..I only smoke weed..and hash ..took E once..that shit was wack to me
    ______________________________________________
    # nation Says:
    February 10th, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    >> I thought the dude in Jay’s crew was H Money Bags.

    youngest a&r in the game

    ^^^he prolly had an issue with the “MONEY BAGS” part…see up top..I was under a lot of drugs during those years.

  40. Janice Says:

    I bet Kenneth “Supreme” McGriff never experienced this much attention in his life! (smh)

  41. Crazy88Since88 Says:

    **88 grabs mic @ Highschool Dance**

    ….YO, Fuck YA”ll’Niggas, I’Got’the’Mic *(white kids cling to exit doors)*… YO’SUN, YO’SUN…ON’IIEITHING… *(Teachers enter room & look @ 88)*… I Just wanna say YA’LL’HAVE’A'GOOD’EVENING’TaNITE… *(88 drops mic & Plays wall with Phat Booty Redbone)*

  42. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) Says:

    Lol Cam released the full version.

  43. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) Says:

    “Stop calling my probation officer too, why you talking about my probation? You trying to get me locked up Curtis?”

    Lmao, whether you like Cams music or not, you gotta admit he’s entertaining.

  44. Two-Times Says:

    Eskay

    Why don’t you do an interview over at XXL and ask your boy Camron why he decided to run off and not help his boy at the Rucker?

    – now that question would be real journalism…..

  45. Two-Times Says:

    ANd this Eatha Brown character need to get his research up… He said 50 and Supreme had no overlap in the streets??? 50 was about to blow his lid off in the hood… They crossed paths plenty of times…

  46. Two-Times Says:

    Damn that E-Money and Prodigy “Regulate” shit is jammin…. fire….

  47. nation Says:

    >> 50 was about to blow his lid off in the hood… They crossed paths plenty of times…

    believe half of what you see, none of what you hear

  48. nation Says:

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/camron-cuuurrrtttiiiss-dirty-50-cent-diss-mp3.html

    apparently fif called cam’s probation officer

  49. nation Says:

    why does cam always have to talk about other men’s looks and fucking fashion sense. especially at the end of the song, when he knows that nowadays diss songs aren’t shit without the proper ad libs

  50. JOFFE JO Says:

    @nation……Cuz cam is probably gay or bisexual (still gay) …….who really gives a damn (more girls for the real dudes) but your boy 50 stay tellin on niggas……shit he sounds like my little 5 yr old girl tellin on her sister all the damn time

  51. Mic Lowrey Says:

    Hay there

    The Cam thing was great for G Unit The Game was going to hard on them and D Block is the streets, people have a love / hate relationship with the Dip Set just like G Unit should be great

    Listen people the whole Supreme Troy and E Money Bags thing people forgetting them dudes were stick up boys Bags and Troy (He Ta Ta brother) Queens people get it but dude may be innocent

  52. nation Says:

    that link i posted is the complete version of cam’rons attempt of a diss

  53. Paperstacker Says:

    Man, 50 and jay z lost.

  54. Paperstacker Says:

    the beat on cams diss is better than the funeral shit, but cam cant rap for shit. A waste of every beat he’s on.

  55. Crazy88Since88 Says:

    **88 comes in room, Pisses on Cams Single, Pisses on 50′s Single… Picks up new Hobby…Jazz Music… Spits on XXL/Source/HHW magazines, Goes Home & watches Old VHS tapes of Video Music Box… Remembers Crazy Sam… Laughs**

  56. Sean Mayor Says:

    yea jay-z had a dude in his crew called h-money bags band and e-money bags doeja jay-z about it live on the air on hot 97 on the funk master flex show.e-money bags was a real o.g

  57. nation Says:

    ^ smh @ you calling hhw a mag

  58. Jeter2 Says:

    “You say ya gun Jammed/Nigga ya gun aint Jam they let off your bitch as ran” LOL

  59. guy brewer Says:

    fuck all this beef shit, 50 is bored and cam walked into some bullshit becuz he needs his name out there.this was not the first time 50 call kotch a grave yard.why was cam getting tight all of a sudden.ok
    50 is killing time until his album drops and in that video he was smart for marketing bucks album, remember that video broke a youtube record to views in one day.
    50 will use any means to make money and if its goes beyond music he got the ppl to handle the business, he is a boss and cam is a soldier.

  60. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) Says:

    I’m having a hard time figuring out who’s got worse fans, Old Man Lil Wayne or G-Unit? I mean Old Waynes fans are actually being tricked into thinking he has skills, even though he’s only good at making people think he’s good at rapping(haha!!)

  61. nick Says:

    >>Just was Preme’s man. Guns came out, Preme’s gun jammed and Just got hit.
    >>^By who?

    e money bags killed black just

    there was a guy on rocafella called h money bags….e money called up hot 97 askin jayz why he has some guy on his label using his name

    jay z – ‘yo e man, i dont respect this’

    e money bags – ‘i dont respect you got another nigga up there with my name’

    e money bags hangs up

    if anybody wants that full bags mixtape, e money bags – wrong nigga to fuck with, let me know, ill upload…

  62. nick Says:

    >>“to that other nigga that was down for me thats what he said/ switched sides I guess them other niggas wanted him dead”(c)PAC..speakin on E Money.

    i think he was talkin about randy ‘stretch’ walker not bags…stretch was maj’s brother and maj rapped with e money bags

  63. Jeter2 Says:

    Cam so wack it aint even funny, but seriously what did he say that Sheek or Game or Jada OR Joe or Kim didn’t say? NOT A DAMN THING!!

    First nas mother then Jay now 50 ITS FUNNY but that dummy should have learned from Joe, Styles and Game that beefin with 50 don’t equal record sales!!! Which is why they should just take this to the block or box it out during summer jam..

  64. KingML Says:

    >>Which is why they should just take this to the block or box it out during summer jam..

    Atleast then maybe Cam will go gold.

  65. G-town G Says:

    What it do my peeps? Damn I havent been around in a while to rep for the south I hope yall aint been talkin all that east koast shit! Lol, Just kiddin yall my potnas.
    This Ethan Brown dude sure knows alot of street shit, I mean who is giving this dude all this info? Its interesting anyway tho, so good lookin Es!

    Yall take it easy Ill be back thru…

  66. G-town G Says:

    Which is why they should just take this to the block or box it out during summer jam..

    ^I dont think curtis would fight anyway that bitch is scared

  67. R-FIGGZ Says:

    The revolution is upon us, don’t be afraid!!!!.
    It is written that the meek shall inherit the world!…
    Deprogram yourself from white supremacy,we have reached the mountanside,glory is upon us…..

  68. nation Says:

    ^ yeah, smh @ white people overall

    lmao @ this though

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql2C-TYpL44

  69. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    el feces loco Says:

    February 10th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
    youtube.com/watch?v=eQrf5VO4uAA -E Money Bags feat prodigy

    Word..I remember when E Money bags got clapped too, like a few weeks before(maybe more) he was on the radio screamin on Jay and em, cause somebody from Jay’s crew was calling themselves E Money..he used to roll with Pac hard too like best friends type shit but after Pac got shot Pac flipped on him..or vice versa..brain’s kinna hazey(pun intended)

    “to that other nigga that was down for me thats what he said/ switched sides I guess them other niggas wanted him dead”(c)PAC..speakin on E Money.

    ^ Pac was talking about Stretch, not E Money Bags. Stretch and Pac were super cool, then he started fucking wit Bad Boy after Pac got shot and they fell out.

  70. killa jones Says:

    The battle between the Dips and G-Unit looks a lot like the war we are fighting over in Iraq. G-Unit is the more modern and well-armed force. They have the machinery behind them to blanket the media with their artists. The Dips, not so much, but where DipSet makes up for not being with a major label is their feistiness and work ethic. They are like the Taliban that is embedded inside the cities of Iraq. They jump out and leave a roadside bomb and then they run back into the huddle of crowded buildings for camouflage. They strike quickly although they don’t hit hard enough to topple you they annoy you with their persistence because they keep coming back at you. In the eyes of the people it looks like they’re winning, or at least it looks like they are able to hang with what should be a superior force.

    -XXL.com

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    bwwhahahahahah!!!!

  71. el feces loco Says:

    ^ Pac was talking about Stretch, not E Money Bags. Stretch and Pac were super cool, then he started fucking wit Bad Boy after Pac got shot and they fell out.

    ^^I stand corrected both you and Nick are correct, I actually noticed my mistake yesterday I was hoping no one paid attention to it, but I was wrong it was Stretch…not E Money…I think I need to stop smoking….Nawwwwwww.

  72. KLO Says:

    if y’all don’t have it already….

    Cuurrrtisss – Cam’ron’s diss at 50 (the whole song)

    tinyurl.com/33v5ge

  73. Foekist Says:

    Good lookin KLO, no homo

  74. nation Says:

    smh @ eskay, KLO, Foekist and every other silent lurker

    http://www.nahright.com/news/2007/02/10/ethan-brown-analyzes-the-supreme-transcripts/#comment-289331

  75. Foekist Says:

    Damn, ninja’s ALWAYS trying to steal somebody elses shine. Who cares that you posted it first?

  76. Foekist Says:

    yeah, yeah nation, plus the cal is on me. Yall niggas be smoove I’m about to get back to freezin my ballz off in this michigan wevuh. 100

  77. nation Says:

    ^ not me homie

  78. Foekist Says:

    One mo’ thang (no homo)… Dude on the left in that picture is Marques Houston’s uncle, true story. I’m gone for good this time.

  79. D. Billz Says:

    killa jones Says:

    February 11th, 2007 at 10:46 am
    The battle between the Dips and G-Unit looks a lot like the war we are fighting over in Iraq. G-Unit is the more modern and well-armed force. They have the machinery behind them to blanket the media with their artists. The Dips, not so much, but where DipSet makes up for not being with a major label is their feistiness and work ethic. They are like the Taliban that is embedded inside the cities of Iraq. They jump out and leave a roadside bomb and then they run back into the huddle of crowded buildings for camouflage. They strike quickly although they don’t hit hard enough to topple you they annoy you with their persistence because they keep coming back at you. In the eyes of the people it looks like they’re winning, or at least it looks like they are able to hang with what should be a superior force.

    -XXL.com

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    bwwhahahahahah!!!!

    ^Funny but accurate analysis.

  80. Sour D. Says:

    top o the mornin.

  81. NY_TN_Connect Says:

    Listen troy and ty ty were some cool dudes, they knew who to play. I ran threw those streets from guy brewer, to rochdale to baisley to supthin to liberty i knew those cats and they were good dudes. Ask those cats about alston lounge, old school clara’s lounge. orignal south jamaica kid here . Saw alot of shit to much to mention or should i say i rather not discuss it. But you have to know it was coming for preme!!! boy i would luv to see tyty neice right now tara she was real sexy and had a big mouth sis keisha she also was real sexy. I was there. Peace to all my edgar d Shimmer dudes 142 linden, inwood, ferndale lakewood. etc…………

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