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Damn…who the fuck is Akira the Don? Dude has a serious case of oral diarrhea…
Your album noticeably eschews the Premo/Pete Rock/Large Professor production sound preferred by much of the UK hip-hop aristocracy…
“I was talking about this the other day with a number of my people. Half the camp was like, ‘Fuck them old pricks - they’ve been holding us back for 20 years, they can suck a dick and die’.
“Now some of it’s good music and they’re entitled to do their thing, but it’s bad when they’ve got a stranglehold on what is supposedly ‘UK rap’, dudes like Rodney P. What are you giving? What are you contributing? How old are you? Fucking roll over.
“I mean these dudes sell about eight records between them and they hate on all these little dudes coming up who aren’t just pretending they’re in New York in 1991.
“If you wanna go and pretend you’re in a covers band, do that and don’t hate on other people that are trying to do something new, you cunts.”
So why should anybody listen to you instead?
“Because I’m brilliant and probably say a lot more to them about their lives than a lot of the stuff they’re listening to. And if I don’t, at least I say it in an interesting way.
“If they’re listening to Task Force maybe there’s no help for them. There’s this thing with UK hip-hop people - they expect all this love straight away and if they don’t get it they get pissed off.”
You’re not much of a 2Pac fan either, right?
“Was anybody until he died?
“I was always a Big Pun person myself. But 2Pac, I don’t get it at all. Dude was this art school pretty boy who got a role in Juice and decided to act that way for the rest of his life. And people take that shit seriously; it’s grotesque.
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop. And backwards bandanas are rubbish, dude looks like fucking Nora Batty, like the ultimate prison bitch.
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac†comment, though
^^ kinda sounded like the end of hit em up where pac was all “fuck bad boy, fuck everybody at bad bpy, fuck your momma, fuck the grabage man who picks up bad boys trash, fuck the bum who sleeps on bad boys stoop”
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
^ and i was thinking she looks better than normal in that pic. i feel sad for her.
^^
This borad is a freakin Animal. ive seen a few bits and pieces of her, Damn, she turns me off to Chicks named Tiffany & alot of women of color. just that Loud black girl thing goin, with the fake hair…Animal.
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop.
^^ while im somewhat of a pac-semi stan, he raises a point… but i think the blame lies more woth the idiots that are following than with pac.
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac†comment, though
SERIOUSLY AND I LOOK AT IT KIND OF LIKE HOW ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS MISINTERPRET THE KORAN, SOME PEOPLE READ THAT AND THINK ALLAH WANTS TO TO BLOW YOURSELF UP ALONG WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER CIVILIANS AND THESE PEOPLE ARE MISGUIDED ONLY HEAR PARTS OF THE KORAN AND ARE BASICALLY JUST MISSING THE OVERALL MESSAGE AND POINT OF THE KORAN
WELL RADICAL PAC FANS ARE THE SAME THEY TOOK THE THUG IMAGE THAT HE HAD AND DROVE IT INTO THE GROUND BUT NONE OF THE MINI PACS EVER TRIED SAYING SOMETHING OF ANY RELEVANCE OR EVER ACTUALLY ATTEMTPED TO CAPTURE WHAT TUPAC REALLY WAS. THEY JUST SHOWED THE GLORIFIED GANGSTA IMAGINE SOME HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO SEE.
( NOW I AM IN NOW WAY PUTTING THEM ON THE SAME LEVEL BUT THAN AGAIN YOU KNOW SOME PAC STANS WORD PUT WOULD PUT A JIHAD ON ANYONE TALKING BAD ABOUT TUPAC ” ALLAH ” SHAKUR LMAO )
“I was always a Big Pun person myself. But 2Pac, I don’t get it at all. Dude was this art school pretty boy who got a role in Juice and decided to act that way for the rest of his life. And people take that shit seriously; it’s grotesque.
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop. And backwards bandanas are rubbish, dude looks like fucking Nora Batty, like the ultimate prison bitch.
“Fuck 2Pac and fuck the whole legacy of 2Pac.â€
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… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
Bottom line is, who the fuck is Akira the whatever to be spewing criticism, though….regardless of how flawed his legacy is, Pac is a bonafide legend, and, for better or worse, his work inspired an entire generation of aspiring MCs…the boy was influential, and even brilliant, at times….I’m faaaaaaaaar from a Pac stan, but Akira coming at Pac is a bogus move, worse that Jim Jones being the 9th man on the bench calling Hov a bum…lol…this dude is like the motherfucker who runs out to wipe the sweat off the court real quick when players fall down….
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 am
Bottom line is, who the fuck is Akira the whatever to be spewing criticism, though….regardless of how flawed his legacy is, Pac is a bonafide legend, and, for better or worse, his work inspired an entire generation of aspiring MCs…the boy was influential, and even brilliant, at times….I’m faaaaaaaaar from a Pac stan, but Akira coming at Pac is a bogus move, worse that Jim Jones being the 9th man on the bench calling Hov a bum…lol…this dude is like the motherfucker who runs out to wipe the sweat off the court real quick when players fall down….
We need a board (c) Hovie
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… while i agree that dude (Akira) may not be qualified to offer such an overtly critical rebuttal of Pac’s legacy, he said things that ring true and needed to be said … the TooPac dick-riding is confusing, and also self-destructive to those who indulge in it … dude was extremely flawed (as we all are), and certain elements of people who annoint him as some sort of savior, prophet, role-model and voice of young black men, have their facts and priorities fucked up … TuPock was extremely talented, poetic, energetic and charismatic … but thats where it stops …
… while i agree that dude (Akira) may not be qualified to offer such an overtly critical rebuttal of Pac’s legacy, he said things that ring true and needed to be said … the TooPac dick-riding is confusing, and also self-destructive to those who indulge in it … dude was extremely flawed (as we all are), and certain elements of people who annoint him as some sort of savior, prophet, role-model and voice of young black men, have their facts and priorities fucked up … TuPock was extremely talented, poetic, energetic and charismatic … but thats where it stops …
^^ so who is responsible for this? was his legacy hijacked by indivuduals interested only in monetary gain (his moms who keeps selling his purposely unreleased material)? was it fans who were woefully uninformed but still passionate about their “hero”? Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true (hard to do when he died so young. shit if i died at thesame age as him, my legacy would be a bit scattered as well)
For the most part, Tupac was a pretty smart dude, a little bit conflicted and overwhelmed by his fame and influence, and still searching for his true identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
# icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 am
For the most part, Tupac was a pretty smart dude, a little bit conflicted and overwhelmed by his fame and influence, and still searching for his true identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
? Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true (hard to do when he died so young. shit if i died at thesame age as him, my legacy would be a bit scattered as well)
IF MALCOM X DIED AT TUPACS AGE HE WOULD OF NEVER BEEN KNOWN AS ANYTHING MORE THAN A STREET HUSTLER, AGAIN NOT TO SAY PAC WOULD OF EVER BE NEAR AS IMPORTANT AS MALCOM X BUT WHOSE TO SAY HE WOULDNT OF DONE SOMETHING BIG AND MUCH MORE POSITIVE
… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
*ding ding*
OUTTA THEY DAMN MIND. Like these fools dont jump up every time I get around comes on. Or call they momma when dear momma comes on. Or get ready to ride to ambitionz as a? Or question religon with Who do they Believe in? Or reminisce over lost ones to I aint mad at cha? So many tears?
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
>>>^^ so who is responsible for this? was his legacy hijacked by indivuduals interested only in monetary gain (his moms who keeps selling his purposely unreleased material)? was it fans who were woefully uninformed but still passionate about their “hero� Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true
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… all of the above, including the powers behind the mass media for funneling this stream of “unconsciousness” through the airwaves and into our homes and minds … but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
^^^agreed!!!
just like pappoose stans jay stans or any stan of any artist. Pac is sick end of story.
Meen Mug… What’s good chief rocka? I put that *ding ding* in there because I knew that Land’s statement was gonna cause a riff. Alas, YOU of all people had to be the one to respond, lol.
Mac Brown aka The Sexual Harrasser… what’s good money?
QDot… What’s good scrap?
iCon… What up bredren?
Greenery aka Ms. iCon Turner *lol* What up cheifarina?
Mr. MEEN Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am
… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
*ding ding*
OUTTA THEY DAMN MIND. Like these fools dont jump up every time I get around comes on. Or call they momma when dear momma comes on. Or get ready to ride to ambitionz as a? Or question religon with Who do they Believe in? Or reminisce over lost ones to I aint mad at cha? So many tears?
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
* STANDS UP AND APPLAUDS MR. MEEN *
PREPARE FOR WAR MOTHERFUCKERS HATE PAC ON THIS SITE, ( THEY HAVE BEEN NICE AND POLITE ABOUT IT SO FAR BUT I HAVE A FEELING THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF SOON )
… but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
^^ while I agree with this, I just have to offer- a man who has lived many decades and with each of those decades he has received the knowledge and wisdom life offers (hopefully) understands more about the legacy he will leave than those who dies early, whether from their hand, another’s or just life itself.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
… but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
^^ while I agree with this, I just have to offer- a man who has lived many decades and with each of those decades he has received the knowledge and wisdom life offers (hopefully) understands more about the legacy he will leave than those who dies early, whether from their hand, another’s or just life itself.
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
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… i cant speak for the “pac haters”, but i was NEVER feeling him (N.H.) like that … never “on his nuts” … at all … he just made a few good songs, period …
… I Get Around = Gobbage …
… I Made It > Dear Momma …
… So Many Tears = average …
***A Tupac debate is always a good look for NR…Pac, Big, Jay, or Nas do big numbers every time…BTW, even though we’re officially off the original topic of this thread, I fucks with that new Monch joint—it’s simultaneously insightful and entertaining, unlike that horrible ass “Runaway Love” shiggidy Luda’s flooding the airwaves with….damned shame Monch gets no radio love, outside of “Simon Says”
LOL at anybody taking that Akira the Don bullshit serious. He’s a fucking white boy from the suburbs of London. Someone tell that faggot to kill himself lol. Like he will ever even make it in Hip Hop.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm
***A Tupac debate is always a good look for NR…Pac, Big, Jay, or Nas do big numbers every time…BTW, even though we’re officially off the original topic of this thread, I fucks with that new Monch joint—it’s simultaneously insightful and entertaining, unlike that horrible ass “Runaway Love†shiggidy Luda’s flooding the airwaves with….damned shame Monch gets no radio love, outside of “Simon Saysâ€
… I Get Around = Gobbage …
… I Made It > Dear Momma …
… So Many Tears = average …
I mean come on I made it Mama loves me is a better one that and Dear Mama shits on both. I get around gabbage? What you sit down when it comes on in the club? Me I try and find a dime piece as that what the song is made for. and so many tears…..Back in elementary I thrived off misery left me alone I grew up amongst a dying breed….yeah and you’ve kicked a hotter intro line than that.
2pac out of all the mcs seemed at time to have the most feelings & emoition in his music, he was never the most lyrical but definitly put his heart on the line…..only person who come close is dmx 1st 2 albums
… yeah Pac was sick as an artist … but his legacy is misrepresented, period … if you cant understand that, peace be unto you …
Ok then why say I get around Gobbage? the beat alone with the chopping of computer love and the gangstarr step up is pure hip hop heat. Side note Shock G one of the most underrated of all time. And so many tears sheeeeeeeeeet….
Go listen to Who Do you Believe in before you question Pac or his legacy.
No Offense land I see you put in a disclaimer. but gabbage? come on now…not every song has to be thought provokin. the art of getting women to dance is always a great one to me
^^ i hope he didnt beat her with one too many bricks and send her away, she was my friend
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
….FUCK what you heard! ive see the WILDEST shit when 2Pac’s “What’s your phone number” came on @ Sue’s Rendezvous one night! GATTTTTDAMN! Fuck that Tip Drill Video!
# icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
^^ i hope he didnt beat her with one too many bricks and send her away, she was my friend
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
^^Nice
Did I miss something over the last couple of days. Whats up with Shanti?!?
“Shock G one of the most underrated of all time.â€
Thats an understatement. Dude was sick behind the boards.
Mac aint you in houston? Man I remeber when Freaks of the Industry would go so hard down there. Had many a early college high school freak out in a corner of a dance to that jam.
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
he did not get hit by a bullet but he did shoot back @ the drunk off duty police officer
Enough of this Pharoahe Monch stuff, nobody gives a shit about Pharoahe except new york cats and select hip hop heads, spreaded evenly throughout the country. Enough already got DAMN
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
the art of getting women to dance is always a great one to me
^ common love for ass & music = why meen became a DJ
greeen
Dr . Dre of ed lover fame once said in an interview any dj who doesnt say he got into it for the women is a damn liar. And I live by that statement. I love music but sheeeeeeeeeet
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
he did not get hit by a bullet but he did shoot back @ the drunk off duty police officer
YEAH HE DID. HE GOT ONE OF HIS NUTS BLOWN OFF ( NHJIC FOR EVEN KNOWING IT BUT I MEAN I REMEMBER HIM SAYING IT IN INTERVIEWS AND HOW DO YOU FORGET SOME SHIT LIKE THAT ? )
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
$$$$
it’s interesting that I’m getting older, and younger rap fans act like they don’t know anything about ‘Pac. I almost get offended, just like I get when kids don’t know who Heman is. Matter of fact just thinking about it is gettin me pissed.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
^^
and most of those who scream nothing but fuck pac he’s trash were BIG stans. Big stand and pac stans cant co-exist peacefully anymore than their heroes could.
yeah I feel you ty cuz they just dig deep for joints like this. No doubt a great song but Dear Momma? you know I appreciate it. Stop the hate suckas. The nigga was nice.
YEAH HE DID. HE GOT ONE OF HIS NUTS BLOWN OFF ( NHJIC FOR EVEN KNOWING IT BUT I MEAN I REMEMBER HIM SAYING IT IN INTERVIEWS AND HOW DO YOU FORGET SOME SHIT LIKE THAT ? )
naw that was later when he got shot in the lobby of sony studios. side note its always eerie as hell walking in that lobby. He shot the cops thats it. He got beat by cops once I think in Bmore or Atl as he was jaywalking.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!!
lol.
and I love pac and big dont understand people who dont
… far from that … rudimentary means basic or limited … my tastes in music are eclectic ( the opposite of rudimentary ) if anything … one who has rudimentary tastes only listens to what he is fed … one who has no desire to seek his own lane and aquire their OWN tastes is rudimentary … when someone likes something that is unique, creative, and thought provoking, that is far from displaying rudimentary taste … MrMeen you seem to think that if i dont agree with YOUR taste in music that I have some sort of problem … quite the contrary, Sun … i dont hate Tupac, for the last time, i just hate the way he is portayed as some sort of martyr, when he’s not and never was …
it’s interesting that I’m getting older, and younger rap fans act like they don’t know anything about ‘Pac. I almost get offended, just like I get when kids don’t know who Heman is. Matter of fact just thinking about it is gettin me pissed.
YEAH SHIT DRIVES ME NUTS
^^
and most of those who scream nothing but fuck pac he’s trash were BIG stans. Big stand and pac stans cant co-exist peacefully anymore than their heroes could.
YEAH THEY WERE LIKE JAY AND NAS AT THE HEIGHT OF THAT BATTLE YOU KNOW HOW MANY FIGHTS I SEEN BECAUSE DUDES WAS ARGUEING JAY WAS NICER THAN NAS AND VICE VERSA
Lol @ Meen sittin’ in his crib makin’ beats thinkin’, “damn, if this aint a hit, I can kiss Elise goodbye†LOL… J/k
But yo, that beat for “Crush on You†is fiya chief. I had that shit on repeat in the whip.
LOL LOL….wow you cant say nothing in here without somebody flipping it on you…. and billz I aint gotta worry…I got a condo with nothing but condoms in it you see how the beats was invented so all i do is dj and you know the rest thanks jay!
LOL! hahahaahaahaahaha naw she love me cuz I can get her in free places.
naw that was later when he got shot in the lobby of sony studios. side note its always eerie as hell walking in that lobby. He shot the cops thats it. He got beat by cops once I think in Bmore or Atl as he was jaywalking.
YOU SURE CAUSE I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THE COP SHOT HIM IN THE NUTS ? I COULD HAVE IT TWISTED
BUT EITHER WAY THAT TIME HE DEFINTELY WASNT HIDING AT SOMEONES HOUSE EITHER CAUSE HE WENT STRAIGHT TO E.R. AND THEN THEY ROLLED HIS ASS INTO COURT THE NEXT DAY
While I don’t buy into the whole Tupac as G.O.A.T. argument, I can’t deny that the boy had talent, and he is definitely one of the top 5 most INFLUENTIAL cats, ever…he was one of the first dudes to just put his whole soul into a record…no matter how misguided or hypocritical his views were from verse to verse–i.e., switching up from a from black empowerment theme to shooting niggas on the same song, you believed that he really felt that way….who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch” as a pro-female joint, lol
MrMeen you seem to think that if i dont agree with YOUR taste in music that I have some sort of problem … quite the contrary, Sun … i dont hate Tupac, for the last time, i just hate the way he is portayed as some sort of martyr, when he’s not and never was …
its all good land I saw your disclaimer I just dont understand how you can say I get around gobbage? That beat is disgusting. Drums bananas the twinkling piano? the step up sample? I just hate when people hate on stuff that is official but commercial like it cant be both.
Meen… it’s 6 degrees (or less) of seperation between us (no homo). I better have a Ruling Class joint in my possession before ANY of these muddaskunks, lol.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^^ come on girl- you aint new, you know how we get down round here: like ADD kids
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^Yeah we do… but by the time you show up (often late) we’ve already switched topics.
But on the flipside, we’re not robots so you’d be pretty hard-pressed to find people who have “real” emotions, feelings, opinions, thoughts and views to just talk about one topic for a whole thread. Plus what better way to piss Eskay off and get his shag in a bunch?
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
While I don’t buy into the whole Tupac as G.O.A.T. argument, I can’t deny that the boy had talent, and he is definitely one of the top 5 most INFLUENTIAL cats, ever…he was one of the first dudes to just put his whole soul into a record…no matter how misguided or hypocritical his views were from verse to verse–i.e., switching up from a from black empowerment theme to shooting niggas on the same song, you believed that he really felt that way….who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch†as a pro-female joint, lol
EXACTLY AND I AM NEVER ONE TO SAY YOU MUST LIKE SOMEONES MUSIC BUT LIKE PAC SAID HIMSELF
” YOU DON;T HAVE TO BUMP THIS BUT PLEASE RESPECT IT ”
AND WHEN I AGRUE WITH PAC HATERS ITS THE EMOTION PART OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT IM ALWAYS TRYING TO GET ACROSS WHO ELSE COULD DO THAT LIKE PAC
as far as his influence on young black men … negative …
not in all cases I like to think he had a positive effect on me. God may disagree but we shall have to wait and see right?
And Billz you know you got that. and sad thing is El can get in wherever she wants with or without me. In this case I just stand by the side and smile like a good dog.
@MEEN… btw, I gotta talk b-i-z wit’ ya. What’s the best way to hit you up, i.e. not gettin’ my message ignored? I know how you industry fuckers do, lol…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
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… true story …
^^
Fuck it up, she understand that I might slap her, I’ll Be damned if I work for some white cracker, White batter, prize in the pack, fiends love They hug it, call it Cracker Jacks, KILLA!
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
****Would you rather have like 5 posts saying “that joint was aiight”, “Monch did his thing again” and “man, that shit was weak” like on the XXL boards?
>>And Billz you know you got that. and sad thing is El can get in wherever she wants with or without me. In this case I just stand by the side and smile like a good dog.
^Sheeeeeit… she can get on a plane wit’ guns on her.
@MEEN… btw, I gotta talk b-i-z wit’ ya. What’s the best way to hit you up, i.e. not gettin’ my message ignored? I know how you industry fuckers do, lol…
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
Strapped
White Man’s World
Keep Your Head Up
If My Homie Calls
To Live And Die in L.A.
Holla if Ya Hear Me
Souljah’s Revenge
Death Around The Corner
… as far as his influence on young black men … negative …
SO DEAR MAMA DOESNT HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ?
BRENDA’S GOT A BABY, LIFE GOES ON, HEARTS OF MEN, SO MANY TEARS, TRAPPED, WORDS OF WISDOM AND MANY MORE
YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
( DAMN I JUST DID WHAT I SAID I STOPPED DOING W/E W/E W/E )
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^^ come on girl- you aint new, you know how we get down round here: like ADD kids
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
SO DEAR MAMA DOESNT HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ?
BRENDA’S GOT A BABY, LIFE GOES ON, HEARTS OF MEN, SO MANY TEARS, TRAPPED, WORDS OF WISDOM AND MANY MORE
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
****Would you rather have like 5 posts saying “that joint was aiightâ€, “Monch did his thing again†and “man, that shit was weak†like on the XXL boards?
^^lol noo icon..i like it just the way it is…but the “2pac is great/2pac is overrated” gets redundant.
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
^Good looks. Lol @ Pac hatin’ phone calls.
Mystery Guy: Mofo I know you spin at Love. I better not hear I Get Around, Hit ‘Em Up, or none of that other shit fam, word to Allah nig–
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
^Good looks. Lol @ Pac hatin’ phone calls.
Mystery Guy: Mofo I know you spin at Love. I better not hear I Get Around, Hit ‘Em Up, or none of that other shit fam, word to Allah nig–
>>>YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
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… his life, not his songs … anybody can say anything positive or negative on a song … so what … your judged by how you live, not how you spit … come on , this aint rocket science ladies and gentleman … and these “black men” you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are black”), what positive influence did he have on them ?!? … did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life” to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
Went from Cam to Killa, killa to scrilla, Gorilla
From killa to Sky-Scrappers, from sky-scrappers
High papers, that’s my nature
Do five you now, y’all die later
Come to your wake, look at you; “Hi hater”>>>If My Homies Call
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
Now you don’t wanna see me angry
Ain’t enough cops or cuffs to chain me
Days to arraign me, KKK’s to hang me, insane me
Ya need ice picks to bang me
Need more than a straight jacket to restrain me
Or more guns with my prints for you to frame me and mame me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Mama
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
COC’s the Posse, roll like the Nazis
Blood Debiasi, rule like Kadafi
Coming out of Harlem the land of the stardom
Yeah huh we ballin’ driving we start them
Problems we solve ‘em, .38 revolve ‘em>>>Pacs rants at the end of Hit Em Up
***Man, I love inside jokes…I was hoping to be a part of one, someday (c) Steve Carrell in “the Officeâ€, lol
^I still haven’t saw that show yet. How many episodes have been aired already? Damn, I wish everything was On Demand. I can’t sit and wait for a tv show anymore. Rather be readin’…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
^^
EPMD gave me a heads up on what AIDS is back in the day!
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
>>>YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
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… his life, not his songs … anybody can say anything positive or negative on a song … so what … your judged by how you live, not how you spit … come on , this aint rocket science ladies and gentleman … and these “black men†you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are blackâ€), what positive influence did he have on them ?!? … did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
OK BUT WHAT YOUR ASKING OF HIM IS TO BE A FTHER OR A TEACHER TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HE DOESNT NOW AND WILL NEVER MEET WHAT BETTER WAY FOR HIM TO INFLUENCE HIM AND GET A POSITIVE MESSAGE OUT THAN TO WROTE A SONG FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO HEAR. BUT IT DAMN SURE AINT HIS JOB TO TEACH US HOW TO BALANCE A CHECKBOOK, AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE SOME MISGUIDED FOOLS TOOK AWAY THE BANDANAS AND THUG LIFE TATTOS FROM PAC BUT OTHERS OF US TOOK AWAY HIS WORDS AND HIS MUSIC,
>>>my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
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…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought for those who Eat to Live (about 144,000 or maybe 5%), not stalking a DJ … im used to disagreeing with the masses, anyway … it’s what i do as a bearer of truth … dont sweat yourself, homes …
man Icon i was gonna let you in on the joke too and then you said that…the big version is better and the LL not the poster version is nice too but California love gets em all. Fresh outta jail!
^I still haven’t saw that show yet. How many episodes have been aired already? Damn, I wish everything was On Demand. I can’t sit and wait for a tv show anymore. Rather be readin’…
***It’s on Season 2….I usually DVR TV shows…I never have time to sit and watch them, when they come on, so I try to record joints that interest me, so I can watch them when it’s convenient…right now, I got like 50 joints saved that I’ll probably never watch…ON DEMAND made Monday nights mandatory “the Wire” night, regardless of whatever else was going on, for a minute there….
and these “black men†you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are blackâ€), what positive influence did he have on them ?!?
I SAID THAT THE WAY I DID CAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE STRESSING HIS IMPACT ON YOUNG BLACK MEN SO I MADE SURE I CLAIRIFIED THAT MANY YOUNG BLACK MEN WERE POSTIVLY AFFECTED BY HIM
…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought for those who Eat to Live (about 144,000 or maybe 5%), not stalking a DJ … im used to disagreeing with the masses, anyway … it’s what i do as a bearer of truth … dont sweat yourself, homes …
whoa as usal come down from up on the rock. Moses already brought me the commandments. and tell me does God really sound like Charlton Heston? Or James Earl Jones? Im hoping for James.
seriously though Land Im not even talking bout you im sure there are numerous nameless posters who would blow up my phone. jeez talk about dont sweat yourself..
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
^^
EPMD gave me a heads up on what AIDS is back in the day!
***It’s on Season 2….I usually DVR TV shows…I never have time to sit and watch them, when they come on, so I try to record joints that interest me, so I can watch them when it’s convenient…right now, I got like 50 joints saved that I’ll probably never watch…ON DEMAND made Monday nights mandatory “the Wire†night, regardless of whatever else was going on, for a minute there….
YEAH I’M THE SAME WAY AND MOST DEFINTELY WAS WITH THE WIRE EXCEPT IT WAS MONDAY AFTERNOONS I COULDNT WAIT TILL NIGHT
… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary” … and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
>>>whoa as usal come down from up on the rock. Moses already brought me the commandments. and tell me does God really sound like Charlton Heston? Or James Earl Jones? Im hoping for James.
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… wow … smh … typical … very predictable … just suprised at who its coming from …
ahh my influence still shining…never said you were a hater just didnt understand how you cant appreciate I get around for what it is. Or so many tears? smh.
>>… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary†… and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Word preach!
I’d rather have you fear me, then have your mother teary eyed
Flowers, candles, 40 bottles where he died
Know he lied (But the young kid had to show his pride)>>>Me Against The World
…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought
***Aiight, lemme get an order of porkchops, with a 40 on the side…and a pack of newports….i’m trynna think about smashing off white chicks and figuring out a way to do the white man’s bidding without standing out too much, cuz I wanna play my position the background and not take away from his shine, and that’s exactly what I need to get in the proper coonish frame of mind…lol and j/k—trying to bring some levity to the forum….that disclaimer is out of respect, cuz I know you know me better than to take that shit seriously, fam
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
>>>^^ has any rapper?
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… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary†… and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
THAT I CAN AGREE WITH 100 % BUT AT THE SAME TIME ( AND I’M NOT SAYING YOU DID THIS LAND ) YOU CAN’T DISCOUNT THE IMPACT PAC OR ANYONE MIGHT HAVE HAD ON AN INDIVIUAL,
BUT LIKE I SAID I HATE THESE PAC ARGUEMENTS THEY GO NO WHERE
I’M GONNA GO SMOKE SOME CRAZY ILL KUSH AND GET ME SOME LUNCH
… wow … smh … typical … very predictable … just suprised at who its coming from …
I dont know why Im known for having a smart ass mouthed. It just aint that serious Land. I know you have good taste in music I personally check your reccomendations. But jeez lighten up. Not every song has to enlighten the masses.
.>>But jeez lighten up. Not every song has to enlighten the masses.
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… point taken, and i accept that … again though, im just passionate about Pac debates because there are so many other brothers that could be elevated to the influential, role model status that Pac bears … and his life had so much promise and potential, and its my personal opinion that his bad judgement fucked it up …
and his life had so much promise and potential, and its my personal opinion that his bad judgement fucked it up … i agree 100 %. however at the same time- having bad role models and thinking your an immortal 24 year old doesnt help.
he could have been so much more. maybe he ultimately would have. it really doesnt matter though because he’s gone and you cant change how a man lived his life after he’s died.
Question for the room- what would you legacy be/have been @ 24 yrs old?
Not much. neither would malcom martin or quincy jones. james brown recorded papa at 30. lets be for real. the man did more in his life than most and yes his legacy is fucked up but thats not his fault. While alive he put more emotion soul and love into his music than most rappers put into their whole lives. I feel you land but the reason why they werent elevated to his status is cuz they werent nice as him. Just cuz you can get all lyrical if you cant communicate to the people then what is the point. The talibs the lupes while I love them are preaching to the converted. Pac spoke to the heathens and made them listen. Not all of them got his message but I guarantee 10 percent did. and thats who we are speaking to right land?
They call us animals and put us in cages, same niggas are superstars when they put us on stages-Young Jeezy. explaining the plight of the black man in one bar. It doesnt take being lyrically advanced to make a fantastic point. And more people understand you that way
*steps down off soapbox*
i wanna be Paris he tried to kill Bush. I more fashion myself an Ice Cube circa death certificate. street knowledge all day. Even cube now is a hero of mine.
smh @ any1 who takes what any1 says or what they actually say serious….its a blog 90 percent is bullshit the other 9 percent is alter egos & the other 1percent is real shit that iceberg spits
Not much. neither would malcom martin or quincy jones. james brown recorded papa at 30. lets be for real. the man did more in his life than most and yes his legacy is fucked up but thats not his fault. While alive he put more emotion soul and love into his music than most rappers put into their whole lives. I feel you land but the reason why they werent elevated to his status is cuz they werent nice as him. Just cuz you can get all lyrical if you cant communicate to the people then what is the point. The talibs the lupes while I love them are preaching to the converted. Pac spoke to the heathens and made them listen. Not all of them g
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 am
Pharoah is nice
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 am
word
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 am
wow
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:53 am
Damn…who the fuck is Akira the Don? Dude has a serious case of oral diarrhea…
Your album noticeably eschews the Premo/Pete Rock/Large Professor production sound preferred by much of the UK hip-hop aristocracy…
“I was talking about this the other day with a number of my people. Half the camp was like, ‘Fuck them old pricks - they’ve been holding us back for 20 years, they can suck a dick and die’.
“Now some of it’s good music and they’re entitled to do their thing, but it’s bad when they’ve got a stranglehold on what is supposedly ‘UK rap’, dudes like Rodney P. What are you giving? What are you contributing? How old are you? Fucking roll over.
“I mean these dudes sell about eight records between them and they hate on all these little dudes coming up who aren’t just pretending they’re in New York in 1991.
“If you wanna go and pretend you’re in a covers band, do that and don’t hate on other people that are trying to do something new, you cunts.”
So why should anybody listen to you instead?
“Because I’m brilliant and probably say a lot more to them about their lives than a lot of the stuff they’re listening to. And if I don’t, at least I say it in an interesting way.
“If they’re listening to Task Force maybe there’s no help for them. There’s this thing with UK hip-hop people - they expect all this love straight away and if they don’t get it they get pissed off.”
You’re not much of a 2Pac fan either, right?
“Was anybody until he died?
“I was always a Big Pun person myself. But 2Pac, I don’t get it at all. Dude was this art school pretty boy who got a role in Juice and decided to act that way for the rest of his life. And people take that shit seriously; it’s grotesque.
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop. And backwards bandanas are rubbish, dude looks like fucking Nora Batty, like the ultimate prison bitch.
“Fuck 2Pac and fuck the whole legacy of 2Pac.”
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 am
‘Fuck them old pricks - they’ve been holding us back for 20 years, they can suck a dick and die’.
^^ rakim, krs et al should get together and slap him silly.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:56 am
damn eskay…on it as usual.
ppl really sleepin on that pharaohe mixtape.
i guess niggas really are stepping they game up…
i.e Kweli (Liberation), & Pharoahe (Desire)
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop.
^^ while im somewhat of a pac-semi stan, he raises a point… but i think the blame lies more woth the idiots that are following than with pac.
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
DAMN I WANNA KUFI SMACK THE SHIT OUT OF THS AKIRA THE DON DUDE
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop.
^^ while im somewhat of a pac-semi stan, he raises a point… but i think the blame lies more woth the idiots that are following than with pac.
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac” comment, though
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:00 am
**BTW, that Akira article is under the “monch speaks on the song and concept” link….
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop.
^^ while im somewhat of a pac-semi stan, he raises a point… but i think the blame lies more woth the idiots that are following than with pac.
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac†comment, though
^^
Ummm…i agree.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac†comment, though
^^ kinda sounded like the end of hit em up where pac was all “fuck bad boy, fuck everybody at bad bpy, fuck your momma, fuck the grabage man who picks up bad boys trash, fuck the bum who sleeps on bad boys stoop”
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
^ and i was thinking she looks better than normal in that pic. i feel sad for her.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
^ and i was thinking she looks better than normal in that pic. i feel sad for her.
***LOL…you’re too kind…on second thought, she kinda looks like Michael Jackson in “the Wiz”
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 am
lol @ greenie’s extended version of the “Hit Em Up” rant…
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 am
lol.. not adding her to your things to do list, eh?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
^ and i was thinking she looks better than normal in that pic. i feel sad for her.
^^
This borad is a freakin Animal. ive seen a few bits and pieces of her, Damn, she turns me off to Chicks named Tiffany & alot of women of color. just that Loud black girl thing goin, with the fake hair…Animal.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 am
^^^that sounds more like Land, lol..j/k
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 am
that last comment was @ greenie
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 am
NY from Flavor of Love looks like a rejected Universoul Circus clown, on that ad…
^ and i was thinking she looks better than normal in that pic. i feel sad for her.
***LOL…you’re too kind…on second thought, she kinda looks like Michael Jackson in “the Wizâ€
^^
Oh Shit! Thats what it is!!!
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 am
^^^that sounds more like Land, lol..j/k
^^ lmao! iunno. i dont even think he’d go for her, but his taste has surprised me before
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop.
^^ while im somewhat of a pac-semi stan, he raises a point… but i think the blame lies more woth the idiots that are following than with pac.
***Agreed, but he took it too far with the “fuck Tupac and the legacy of Tupac†comment, though
SERIOUSLY AND I LOOK AT IT KIND OF LIKE HOW ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS MISINTERPRET THE KORAN, SOME PEOPLE READ THAT AND THINK ALLAH WANTS TO TO BLOW YOURSELF UP ALONG WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER CIVILIANS AND THESE PEOPLE ARE MISGUIDED ONLY HEAR PARTS OF THE KORAN AND ARE BASICALLY JUST MISSING THE OVERALL MESSAGE AND POINT OF THE KORAN
WELL RADICAL PAC FANS ARE THE SAME THEY TOOK THE THUG IMAGE THAT HE HAD AND DROVE IT INTO THE GROUND BUT NONE OF THE MINI PACS EVER TRIED SAYING SOMETHING OF ANY RELEVANCE OR EVER ACTUALLY ATTEMTPED TO CAPTURE WHAT TUPAC REALLY WAS. THEY JUST SHOWED THE GLORIFIED GANGSTA IMAGINE SOME HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO SEE.
( NOW I AM IN NOW WAY PUTTING THEM ON THE SAME LEVEL BUT THAN AGAIN YOU KNOW SOME PAC STANS WORD PUT WOULD PUT A JIHAD ON ANYONE TALKING BAD ABOUT TUPAC ” ALLAH ” SHAKUR LMAO )
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 am
saving money and going on vacation in an island > then buying the new jordans hoodies babes or whatever other bullshit out there
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 am
this song/video is bum
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 am
2pac is the most overrated of all time but he is in my top ten z& he does have some very memorable verses
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 am
tupacs top three albums
makaveli
me against the world
all eyes on me
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 am
You’re not much of a 2Pac fan either, right?
“Was anybody until he died?
“I was always a Big Pun person myself. But 2Pac, I don’t get it at all. Dude was this art school pretty boy who got a role in Juice and decided to act that way for the rest of his life. And people take that shit seriously; it’s grotesque.
“Everything that’s descended from it has been detrimental to the evolution of hip-hop. And backwards bandanas are rubbish, dude looks like fucking Nora Batty, like the ultimate prison bitch.
“Fuck 2Pac and fuck the whole legacy of 2Pac.â€
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… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 am
^^^… correction: legacy ….
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 am
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 am
2pac is the most overrated of all time but he is in my top ten z& he does have some very memorable verses
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… i agree …
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 am
… Pharoahe Monch > TwoPac …
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 am
full force > 2pac
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 am
Bottom line is, who the fuck is Akira the whatever to be spewing criticism, though….regardless of how flawed his legacy is, Pac is a bonafide legend, and, for better or worse, his work inspired an entire generation of aspiring MCs…the boy was influential, and even brilliant, at times….I’m faaaaaaaaar from a Pac stan, but Akira coming at Pac is a bogus move, worse that Jim Jones being the 9th man on the bench calling Hov a bum…lol…this dude is like the motherfucker who runs out to wipe the sweat off the court real quick when players fall down….
We need a board (c) Hovie
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:38 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 am
Bottom line is, who the fuck is Akira the whatever to be spewing criticism, though….regardless of how flawed his legacy is, Pac is a bonafide legend, and, for better or worse, his work inspired an entire generation of aspiring MCs…the boy was influential, and even brilliant, at times….I’m faaaaaaaaar from a Pac stan, but Akira coming at Pac is a bogus move, worse that Jim Jones being the 9th man on the bench calling Hov a bum…lol…this dude is like the motherfucker who runs out to wipe the sweat off the court real quick when players fall down….
We need a board (c) Hovie
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… while i agree that dude (Akira) may not be qualified to offer such an overtly critical rebuttal of Pac’s legacy, he said things that ring true and needed to be said … the TooPac dick-riding is confusing, and also self-destructive to those who indulge in it … dude was extremely flawed (as we all are), and certain elements of people who annoint him as some sort of savior, prophet, role-model and voice of young black men, have their facts and priorities fucked up … TuPock was extremely talented, poetic, energetic and charismatic … but thats where it stops …
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 am
green eyes i been usin my penis pump i bought out the back of the source magazine, you wanna see what im working with?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am
… while i agree that dude (Akira) may not be qualified to offer such an overtly critical rebuttal of Pac’s legacy, he said things that ring true and needed to be said … the TooPac dick-riding is confusing, and also self-destructive to those who indulge in it … dude was extremely flawed (as we all are), and certain elements of people who annoint him as some sort of savior, prophet, role-model and voice of young black men, have their facts and priorities fucked up … TuPock was extremely talented, poetic, energetic and charismatic … but thats where it stops …
^^ so who is responsible for this? was his legacy hijacked by indivuduals interested only in monetary gain (his moms who keeps selling his purposely unreleased material)? was it fans who were woefully uninformed but still passionate about their “hero”? Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true (hard to do when he died so young. shit if i died at thesame age as him, my legacy would be a bit scattered as well)
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 am
For the most part, Tupac was a pretty smart dude, a little bit conflicted and overwhelmed by his fame and influence, and still searching for his true identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am
… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
*ding ding*
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 am
green eyes i been usin my penis pump i bought out the back of the source magazine, you wanna see what im working with?
^Pardon me, I had to laugh at that (c) Jay Camel
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 am
2pac was a great dancer…..true story……c 2pac in the humpty hump video & when he danced with the blow up doll…b
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 am
…(left field)… i fuckin HATE being audited this time of year!
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 am
Crazy88Since88 Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 am
…(left field)… i fuckin HATE being audited this time of year!
^^
And my Sobe Energy drinks are not working!
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am
# icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 am
For the most part, Tupac was a pretty smart dude, a little bit conflicted and overwhelmed by his fame and influence, and still searching for his true identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
^^^agreed!!!
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am
? Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true (hard to do when he died so young. shit if i died at thesame age as him, my legacy would be a bit scattered as well)
IF MALCOM X DIED AT TUPACS AGE HE WOULD OF NEVER BEEN KNOWN AS ANYTHING MORE THAN A STREET HUSTLER, AGAIN NOT TO SAY PAC WOULD OF EVER BE NEAR AS IMPORTANT AS MALCOM X BUT WHOSE TO SAY HE WOULDNT OF DONE SOMETHING BIG AND MUCH MORE POSITIVE
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am
… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
*ding ding*
OUTTA THEY DAMN MIND. Like these fools dont jump up every time I get around comes on. Or call they momma when dear momma comes on. Or get ready to ride to ambitionz as a? Or question religon with Who do they Believe in? Or reminisce over lost ones to I aint mad at cha? So many tears?
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:56 am
>>>^^ so who is responsible for this? was his legacy hijacked by indivuduals interested only in monetary gain (his moms who keeps selling his purposely unreleased material)? was it fans who were woefully uninformed but still passionate about their “hero� Or was ot his responsibility to ensure that the legacy he left was tried and true
———————————-
… all of the above, including the powers behind the mass media for funneling this stream of “unconsciousness” through the airwaves and into our homes and minds … but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:56 am
EDIT ^^^ ….. MUCH MORE IMPORTANT WITH HIS LIFE NOT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN MALCOM X
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 am
identity/voice at the time of his death in my estimation, but his stans, at least those i personally know, are some of the dumbest niggas, ever…I hate to generalize, but tell me I’m wrong?
^^^agreed!!!
just like pappoose stans jay stans or any stan of any artist. Pac is sick end of story.
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
Meen Mug… What’s good chief rocka? I put that *ding ding* in there because I knew that Land’s statement was gonna cause a riff. Alas, YOU of all people had to be the one to respond, lol.
Mac Brown aka The Sexual Harrasser… what’s good money?
QDot… What’s good scrap?
iCon… What up bredren?
Greenery aka Ms. iCon Turner *lol* What up cheifarina?
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
Mr. MEEN Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am
… cosign, they could have left out fuck 2Pac, but his legacy is based on contradiction and over-hyped bullshit, so yes … fuck his lagacy …
*ding ding*
OUTTA THEY DAMN MIND. Like these fools dont jump up every time I get around comes on. Or call they momma when dear momma comes on. Or get ready to ride to ambitionz as a? Or question religon with Who do they Believe in? Or reminisce over lost ones to I aint mad at cha? So many tears?
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
* STANDS UP AND APPLAUDS MR. MEEN *
PREPARE FOR WAR MOTHERFUCKERS HATE PAC ON THIS SITE, ( THEY HAVE BEEN NICE AND POLITE ABOUT IT SO FAR BUT I HAVE A FEELING THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF SOON )
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
***Truly pointless story…
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
… but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
^^ while I agree with this, I just have to offer- a man who has lived many decades and with each of those decades he has received the knowledge and wisdom life offers (hopefully) understands more about the legacy he will leave than those who dies early, whether from their hand, another’s or just life itself.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 pm
lmao @ billz. im good.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Whaddup Billz?! aka …The physical abuser
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
… but ultimately, a man is responsible for his own legacy …
^^ while I agree with this, I just have to offer- a man who has lived many decades and with each of those decades he has received the knowledge and wisdom life offers (hopefully) understands more about the legacy he will leave than those who dies early, whether from their hand, another’s or just life itself.
^^
He better know how to avoid that Estate Tax!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm
Pac haters are like mobb deep putting out a dis album after he is dead. While they were clearly on his nuts while he was alive
—————————
… i cant speak for the “pac haters”, but i was NEVER feeling him (N.H.) like that … never “on his nuts” … at all … he just made a few good songs, period …
… I Get Around = Gobbage …
… I Made It > Dear Momma …
… So Many Tears = average …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm
***A Tupac debate is always a good look for NR…Pac, Big, Jay, or Nas do big numbers every time…BTW, even though we’re officially off the original topic of this thread, I fucks with that new Monch joint—it’s simultaneously insightful and entertaining, unlike that horrible ass “Runaway Love” shiggidy Luda’s flooding the airwaves with….damned shame Monch gets no radio love, outside of “Simon Says”
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm
LOL at anybody taking that Akira the Don bullshit serious. He’s a fucking white boy from the suburbs of London. Someone tell that faggot to kill himself lol. Like he will ever even make it in Hip Hop.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 am
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 am
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 am
That kid Simone should keep his Fist Sky High (I capitalized those letters for a reason… might fill yall in later).
***Ol cloak and dagger, cryptic clue leaving ass nigga….
^^ you know hes just tryin to make up some creative sounding statement with FSH as the acronym
***Masterfully Orchestrated Resistance to Enslavement, with Fists Intentionally Sky High, or M.O.R.E. F.I.S.H., lol
^Ol’ Peaches N Herb, Koffee Brown, Whitney and Bobby, Will & Jada, Bonnie & Clyde, Bey-Z ass niggas, lol.
Though off like a mofo, ill ass acronym…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 pm
… So Many Tears = average …
***Nah, that joint was ridiculous….
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
^Ol’ Peaches N Herb, Koffee Brown, Whitney and Bobby, Will & Jada, Bonnie & Clyde, Bey-Z ass niggas, lol.
***Don’t be mad, just cuz Maxine is milkbox material…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm
***A Tupac debate is always a good look for NR…Pac, Big, Jay, or Nas do big numbers every time…BTW, even though we’re officially off the original topic of this thread, I fucks with that new Monch joint—it’s simultaneously insightful and entertaining, unlike that horrible ass “Runaway Love†shiggidy Luda’s flooding the airwaves with….damned shame Monch gets no radio love, outside of “Simon Saysâ€
^^
Um…Simon Says…Tunnel Banger!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Mac Brown… lol, aint shit dawg. Gettin’ my slack on.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
^Ol’ Peaches N Herb, Koffee Brown, Whitney and Bobby, Will & Jada, Bonnie & Clyde, Bey-Z ass niggas, lol.
***Don’t be mad, just cuz Maxine is milkbox material…
^^ i hope he didnt beat her with one too many bricks and send her away, she was my friend
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 pm
… So Many Tears = average …
***Nah, that joint was ridiculous….
^^
Yea…that shit was sick! i still play that’one…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
there are still several pac joints that i keep in rotation
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
***Don’t be mad, just cuz Maxine is milkbox material…
^Only Maxine I fucks wit’ is that track off Kardinal Offishall’s debut. Highly slept on LP.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
… yeah Pac was sick as an artist … but his legacy is misrepresented, period … if you cant understand that, peace be unto you …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 pm
… I Get Around = Gobbage …
… I Made It > Dear Momma …
… So Many Tears = average …
I mean come on I made it Mama loves me is a better one that and Dear Mama shits on both. I get around gabbage? What you sit down when it comes on in the club? Me I try and find a dime piece as that what the song is made for. and so many tears…..Back in elementary I thrived off misery left me alone I grew up amongst a dying breed….yeah and you’ve kicked a hotter intro line than that.
landlord taste=rudimentary
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 pm
2pac out of all the mcs seemed at time to have the most feelings & emoition in his music, he was never the most lyrical but definitly put his heart on the line…..only person who come close is dmx 1st 2 albums
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:10 pm
… yeah Pac was sick as an artist … but his legacy is misrepresented, period … if you cant understand that, peace be unto you …
Ok then why say I get around Gobbage? the beat alone with the chopping of computer love and the gangstarr step up is pure hip hop heat. Side note Shock G one of the most underrated of all time. And so many tears sheeeeeeeeeet….
Go listen to Who Do you Believe in before you question Pac or his legacy.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:10 pm
… ShouT !! - Tears for Fears > Pac - So Many Tears …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:11 pm
D. Billz Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
***Don’t be mad, just cuz Maxine is milkbox material…
^Only Maxine I fucks wit’ is that track off Kardinal Offishall’s debut. Highly slept on LP.
^^
Maxine was pretty dope… That Classic Sample, Hip-Hop + rude bowy shit… Good red stripe party Joint.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
No Offense land I see you put in a disclaimer. but gabbage? come on now…not every song has to be thought provokin. the art of getting women to dance is always a great one to me
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
^^ i hope he didnt beat her with one too many bricks and send her away, she was my friend
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
“Shock G one of the most underrated of all time.”
Thats an understatement. Dude was sick behind the boards.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 pm
So Many Tears> tears of pac haters crying about how he aint nice.
Who do you believe in?
hail mary?
white mans world? all of the makaveli album? most of me against the world? most of all eyes on me? sheeeeeeeeeet
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 pm
… I Get Around = Gobbage …
… I Made It > Dear Momma …
… So Many Tears = average …
u r fucking nuts
I am a jay stan & I made it will never be mentioned with dear momma, I’ve seen dear momma make niggas get emoitional to damn near tears……
& so many tears is a classic…the beat alone makes niggas stop in there tracks
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 pm
….FUCK what you heard! ive see the WILDEST shit when 2Pac’s “What’s your phone number” came on @ Sue’s Rendezvous one night! GATTTTTDAMN! Fuck that Tip Drill Video!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 pm
the art of getting women to dance is always a great one to me
^ common love for ass & music = why meen became a DJ
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
# icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
^^ i hope he didnt beat her with one too many bricks and send her away, she was my friend
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
^^Nice
Did I miss something over the last couple of days. Whats up with Shanti?!?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
“Shock G one of the most underrated of all time.â€
Thats an understatement. Dude was sick behind the boards.
Mac aint you in houston? Man I remeber when Freaks of the Industry would go so hard down there. Had many a early college high school freak out in a corner of a dance to that jam.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back!
^LOL… you’se a damn fool Ike. You know I got aim…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
*****Little Shanti’s 22 yrs old, Billz hittin her with bricks is getting old/ he throwing rocks like a PLO vet, besides that the bricks be all wet/ worried he’s gonna put her up in the abandoneds, like Chris and Snoop cuz he act like he can’t stand her/ Fry that Chicken yadda yadda, no respect, says she’s gonna log of NR, and NEVER come back
LMAO
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
All That I Got Is U>Dear Momma
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
TYRONEBIGGUMS71 Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
iceberg slim aka im a champion Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
after 2pac got shot the first time he was hiding out in whitleys house from a different world….true story…..
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
he did not get hit by a bullet but he did shoot back @ the drunk off duty police officer
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Did I miss something over the last couple of days. Whats up with Shanti?!?
^ Billz beat her. nah, i think shes just on vacay enjoying life
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
^^^I just noticed I rhymed old with old…that’s some Rick Rawsss shit, there, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Enough of this Pharoahe Monch stuff, nobody gives a shit about Pharoahe except new york cats and select hip hop heads, spreaded evenly throughout the country. Enough already got DAMN
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
the art of getting women to dance is always a great one to me
^ common love for ass & music = why meen became a DJ
greeen
Dr . Dre of ed lover fame once said in an interview any dj who doesnt say he got into it for the women is a damn liar. And I live by that statement. I love music but sheeeeeeeeeet
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pm
THE HELL YOU TALKING BOUT FIRST TIME HE GOT SHOT WAS BY THE POLICE IN ATL.
he did not get hit by a bullet but he did shoot back @ the drunk off duty police officer
YEAH HE DID. HE GOT ONE OF HIS NUTS BLOWN OFF ( NHJIC FOR EVEN KNOWING IT BUT I MEAN I REMEMBER HIM SAYING IT IN INTERVIEWS AND HOW DO YOU FORGET SOME SHIT LIKE THAT ? )
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pm
TYRONEBIGGUMS71 Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
$$$$
it’s interesting that I’m getting older, and younger rap fans act like they don’t know anything about ‘Pac. I almost get offended, just like I get when kids don’t know who Heman is. Matter of fact just thinking about it is gettin me pissed.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pm
…Does a bear shit in the woods, and wipe his ass with a fluffy, white rabbit?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 pm
TYRONEBIGGUMS71 Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I DON;T GET INTO NAMING PAC SONGS AND BE LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCK WITH THAT SONG CAUSE I’M ALWAYS AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THE RESPONESE I GET, SO I JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, PEROPLE OPINIONS ON PAC ARE PRETTY MUCH CEMENTED AT THIS POINT I DON;T THINK ANYONE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OF PAC ANYTIME SOON
^^
and most of those who scream nothing but fuck pac he’s trash were BIG stans. Big stand and pac stans cant co-exist peacefully anymore than their heroes could.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!!
lol.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 pm
All That I Got Is U>Dear Momma
yeah I feel you ty cuz they just dig deep for joints like this. No doubt a great song but Dear Momma? you know I appreciate it. Stop the hate suckas. The nigga was nice.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 pm
i used to want to be she-ra
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Lol @ Meen sittin’ in his crib makin’ beats thinkin’, “damn, if this aint a hit, I can kiss Elise goodbye” LOL… J/k
But yo, that beat for “Crush on You” is fiya chief. I had that shit on repeat in the whip.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 pm
YEAH HE DID. HE GOT ONE OF HIS NUTS BLOWN OFF ( NHJIC FOR EVEN KNOWING IT BUT I MEAN I REMEMBER HIM SAYING IT IN INTERVIEWS AND HOW DO YOU FORGET SOME SHIT LIKE THAT ? )
naw that was later when he got shot in the lobby of sony studios. side note its always eerie as hell walking in that lobby. He shot the cops thats it. He got beat by cops once I think in Bmore or Atl as he was jaywalking.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!!
lol.
and I love pac and big dont understand people who dont
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 pm
landlord taste=rudimentary
—————–
… far from that … rudimentary means basic or limited … my tastes in music are eclectic ( the opposite of rudimentary ) if anything … one who has rudimentary tastes only listens to what he is fed … one who has no desire to seek his own lane and aquire their OWN tastes is rudimentary … when someone likes something that is unique, creative, and thought provoking, that is far from displaying rudimentary taste … MrMeen you seem to think that if i dont agree with YOUR taste in music that I have some sort of problem … quite the contrary, Sun … i dont hate Tupac, for the last time, i just hate the way he is portayed as some sort of martyr, when he’s not and never was …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 pm
it’s interesting that I’m getting older, and younger rap fans act like they don’t know anything about ‘Pac. I almost get offended, just like I get when kids don’t know who Heman is. Matter of fact just thinking about it is gettin me pissed.
YEAH SHIT DRIVES ME NUTS
^^
and most of those who scream nothing but fuck pac he’s trash were BIG stans. Big stand and pac stans cant co-exist peacefully anymore than their heroes could.
YEAH THEY WERE LIKE JAY AND NAS AT THE HEIGHT OF THAT BATTLE YOU KNOW HOW MANY FIGHTS I SEEN BECAUSE DUDES WAS ARGUEING JAY WAS NICER THAN NAS AND VICE VERSA
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Billz beat her
^iCon can’t save you either, lol.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 pm
wow..nice disturbing dramatic vid.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Lol @ Meen sittin’ in his crib makin’ beats thinkin’, “damn, if this aint a hit, I can kiss Elise goodbye†LOL… J/k
But yo, that beat for “Crush on You†is fiya chief. I had that shit on repeat in the whip.
LOL LOL….wow you cant say nothing in here without somebody flipping it on you…. and billz I aint gotta worry…I got a condo with nothing but condoms in it you see how the beats was invented so all i do is dj and you know the rest thanks jay!
LOL! hahahaahaahaahaha naw she love me cuz I can get her in free places.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 pm
naw that was later when he got shot in the lobby of sony studios. side note its always eerie as hell walking in that lobby. He shot the cops thats it. He got beat by cops once I think in Bmore or Atl as he was jaywalking.
YOU SURE CAUSE I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THE COP SHOT HIM IN THE NUTS ? I COULD HAVE IT TWISTED
BUT EITHER WAY THAT TIME HE DEFINTELY WASNT HIDING AT SOMEONES HOUSE EITHER CAUSE HE WENT STRAIGHT TO E.R. AND THEN THEY ROLLED HIS ASS INTO COURT THE NEXT DAY
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
While I don’t buy into the whole Tupac as G.O.A.T. argument, I can’t deny that the boy had talent, and he is definitely one of the top 5 most INFLUENTIAL cats, ever…he was one of the first dudes to just put his whole soul into a record…no matter how misguided or hypocritical his views were from verse to verse–i.e., switching up from a from black empowerment theme to shooting niggas on the same song, you believed that he really felt that way….who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch” as a pro-female joint, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
MrMeen you seem to think that if i dont agree with YOUR taste in music that I have some sort of problem … quite the contrary, Sun … i dont hate Tupac, for the last time, i just hate the way he is portayed as some sort of martyr, when he’s not and never was …
its all good land I saw your disclaimer I just dont understand how you can say I get around gobbage? That beat is disgusting. Drums bananas the twinkling piano? the step up sample? I just hate when people hate on stuff that is official but commercial like it cant be both.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 pm
LOL! hahahaahaahaahaha naw she love me cuz I can get her in free places.
^ LMAO!! now thats love.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
While I don’t buy into the whole Tupac as G.O.A.T. argument, I can’t deny that the boy had talent.
^^
lol…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch†as a pro-female joint, lol
^ very true.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Meen- when you dropping that Jay-Z ruling class joint? or do I need a late pass, as usual?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch†as a pro-female joint, lol
co sign everything.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Meen- when you dropping that Jay-Z ruling class joint? or do I need a late pass, as usual?
soon end of this month we gonna have something may not be jay but it will be fire. Or actually probably feburary the way my slow ass crew moves
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
AHAHAHAHA
(sorry i had to do it, thats all the Pac “hate” i’m going to do today)
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 pm
LOL! hahahaahaahaahaha naw she love me cuz I can get her in free places.
^LOL… now that’s “trill” as yall would say.
>>soon end of this month we gonna have something may not be jay but it will be fire. Or actually probably feburary the way my slow ass crew moves
^i.e. Rooftop… but that’s all I’m gonna say.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
AHAHAHAHA
(sorry i had to do it, thats all the Pac “hate†i’m going to do today)
^^
Ummm… Im ride’n With Cam on that’one! it was straight G, and it was under Roc-A-Fella. only platinum CD i “think” he had.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Meen… it’s 6 degrees (or less) of seperation between us (no homo). I better have a Ruling Class joint in my possession before ANY of these muddaskunks, lol.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^^ come on girl- you aint new, you know how we get down round here: like ADD kids
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 pm
*Pac songs i DO like*
Strapped
White Man’s World
Keep Your Head Up
If My Homie Calls
To Live And Die in L.A.
Holla if Ya Hear Me
Souljah’s Revenge
Death Around The Corner
… as far as his influence on young black men … negative …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
————————————-
… true story …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^Yeah we do… but by the time you show up (often late) we’ve already switched topics.
But on the flipside, we’re not robots so you’d be pretty hard-pressed to find people who have “real” emotions, feelings, opinions, thoughts and views to just talk about one topic for a whole thread. Plus what better way to piss Eskay off and get his shag in a bunch?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
————————————-
… true story …
^Your Dipset stannery for that time period makes that co-sign null and void, lol…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
While I don’t buy into the whole Tupac as G.O.A.T. argument, I can’t deny that the boy had talent, and he is definitely one of the top 5 most INFLUENTIAL cats, ever…he was one of the first dudes to just put his whole soul into a record…no matter how misguided or hypocritical his views were from verse to verse–i.e., switching up from a from black empowerment theme to shooting niggas on the same song, you believed that he really felt that way….who else couldv’e pulled of “wonder why they call you bitch†as a pro-female joint, lol
EXACTLY AND I AM NEVER ONE TO SAY YOU MUST LIKE SOMEONES MUSIC BUT LIKE PAC SAID HIMSELF
” YOU DON;T HAVE TO BUMP THIS BUT PLEASE RESPECT IT ”
AND WHEN I AGRUE WITH PAC HATERS ITS THE EMOTION PART OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT IM ALWAYS TRYING TO GET ACROSS WHO ELSE COULD DO THAT LIKE PAC
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Plus what better way to piss Eskay off and get his shag in a bunch?
***The Theo Huxtable joint, circa 85, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm
as far as his influence on young black men … negative …
not in all cases I like to think he had a positive effect on me. God may disagree but we shall have to wait and see right?
And Billz you know you got that. and sad thing is El can get in wherever she wants with or without me. In this case I just stand by the side and smile like a good dog.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm
@MEEN… btw, I gotta talk b-i-z wit’ ya. What’s the best way to hit you up, i.e. not gettin’ my message ignored? I know how you industry fuckers do, lol…
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
————————————-
… true story …
^^
Fuck it up, she understand that I might slap her, I’ll Be damned if I work for some white cracker, White batter, prize in the pack, fiends love They hug it, call it Cracker Jacks, KILLA!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
some people hate….
*throws up in mouth*
i mean come on.
2pac ad libs and shit talking on wax> Dipset contribution to life
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
****Would you rather have like 5 posts saying “that joint was aiight”, “Monch did his thing again” and “man, that shit was weak” like on the XXL boards?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:41 pm
***The Theo Huxtable joint, circa 85, lol
^And Cockroach aka Cole from “Martin”, lol.
>>And Billz you know you got that. and sad thing is El can get in wherever she wants with or without me. In this case I just stand by the side and smile like a good dog.
^Sheeeeeit… she can get on a plane wit’ guns on her.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 pm
@MEEN… btw, I gotta talk b-i-z wit’ ya. What’s the best way to hit you up, i.e. not gettin’ my message ignored? I know how you industry fuckers do, lol…
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Strapped
White Man’s World
Keep Your Head Up
If My Homie Calls
To Live And Die in L.A.
Holla if Ya Hear Me
Souljah’s Revenge
Death Around The Corner
… as far as his influence on young black men … negative …
SO DEAR MAMA DOESNT HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ?
BRENDA’S GOT A BABY, LIFE GOES ON, HEARTS OF MEN, SO MANY TEARS, TRAPPED, WORDS OF WISDOM AND MANY MORE
YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
( DAMN I JUST DID WHAT I SAID I STOPPED DOING W/E W/E W/E )
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
^^ come on girl- you aint new, you know how we get down round here: like ADD kids
^^^^lol…yea i should know betta by now.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
>>>God may disagree but we shall have to wait and see right?
—————————————–
… in a nutshell … no Pac & Suge …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 pm
^Sheeeeeit… she can get on a plane wit’ guns on her.
LOL!!!! theyd be like here do you need bullets? explosives?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
ICON’S FAULT THIS TIME
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm
SO DEAR MAMA DOESNT HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ?
BRENDA’S GOT A BABY, LIFE GOES ON, HEARTS OF MEN, SO MANY TEARS, TRAPPED, WORDS OF WISDOM AND MANY MORE
*applauds TY*
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm
lol @ a grown ass, 6 ft 13 inch (lol), 350 lb gangsta, killer ass nigga, named “Suge”…that shit is still comedy, to me….
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
do yall eva talk about the actually post *wtf*..im readin comments and its all about 2pac and his non-legacy/legacy..lol..smh
****Would you rather have like 5 posts saying “that joint was aiightâ€, “Monch did his thing again†and “man, that shit was weak†like on the XXL boards?
^^lol noo icon..i like it just the way it is…but the “2pac is great/2pac is overrated” gets redundant.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Mr. MEEN Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
^^^^Live My Life(Leave Me Alone)>>>Ambitions As A Rider
some people hate….
*throws up in mouth*
i mean come on.
2pac ad libs and shit talking on wax> Dipset contribution to life
CO-SIGN MR.MEEN
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
^Good looks. Lol @ Pac hatin’ phone calls.
Mystery Guy: Mofo I know you spin at Love. I better not hear I Get Around, Hit ‘Em Up, or none of that other shit fam, word to Allah nig–
Meen: Landlord?!?
Mystery Guy: DOH! *click*
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 pm
2pac ad libs and shit talking on wax> Dipset contribution to life
***LOL…..and let’s not forget, that unlike 50, both Tupac’s ad libs AND the actual diss song itself were equally entertaining
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
speakin of icon…your little rhymefest bout shanti was classic…SOS….*shanti come back, we need more Tip posts*
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
….(2PAC)… I’ll Tell ya MOMMA you aint Shit!
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
D. Billz Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
hit me on the myspace.com/ruling class or the email djbenhameen@yahoo.com. my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
^Good looks. Lol @ Pac hatin’ phone calls.
Mystery Guy: Mofo I know you spin at Love. I better not hear I Get Around, Hit ‘Em Up, or none of that other shit fam, word to Allah nig–
Meen: Landlord?!?
Mystery Guy: DOH! *click*
^^LMAO
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Good move, Meen….leave the celly unpublished…you don’t need those “MCs Pray for My Downfall”-type prank calls in your life
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 pm
LL(not the rappa) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
speakin of icon…your little rhymefest bout shanti was classic…SOS….*shanti come back, we need more Tip posts*
***Thanks, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Meen i woulda said wassup or sumthin but….*I deleted my myspace page*
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pm
oh shit….lol @ “Word to Allah”….you’s a fool, Billz
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pm
^Sheeeeeit… she can get on a plane wit’ guns on her.
LOL!!!! theyd be like here do you need bullets? explosives?
^Perhaps some extra clips, ma’am LOL
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
>>>YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
—————————-
… his life, not his songs … anybody can say anything positive or negative on a song … so what … your judged by how you live, not how you spit … come on , this aint rocket science ladies and gentleman … and these “black men” you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are black”), what positive influence did he have on them ?!? … did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life” to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Went from Cam to Killa, killa to scrilla, Gorilla
From killa to Sky-Scrappers, from sky-scrappers
High papers, that’s my nature
Do five you now, y’all die later
Come to your wake, look at you; “Hi hater”>>>If My Homies Call
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
^Yeah we do… but by the time you show up (often late) we’ve already switched topics.
^^^lol, the story of my life.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
D. Billz Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pm
^Sheeeeeit… she can get on a plane wit’ guns on her.
LOL!!!! theyd be like here do you need bullets? explosives?
^Perhaps some extra clips, ma’am LOL
***Man, I love inside jokes…I was hoping to be a part of one, someday (c) Steve Carrell in “the Office”, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
wow land good stuff..aight im out.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:57 pm
Now you don’t wanna see me angry
Ain’t enough cops or cuffs to chain me
Days to arraign me, KKK’s to hang me, insane me
Ya need ice picks to bang me
Need more than a straight jacket to restrain me
Or more guns with my prints for you to frame me and mame me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Mama
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:57 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
***Redman taught me how to roll a blunt, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 pm
***Redman taught me how to roll a blunt, lol
^ mystikal taught me to shake my ass and watch myself. at the same time even.
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Going Back to Cali>To Live and Die in LA
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Mystery Guy: Mofo I know you spin at Love. I better not hear I Get Around, Hit ‘Em Up, or none of that other shit fam, word to Allah nig–
Meen: Landlord?!?
Mystery Guy: DOH! *click*
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
Faith?
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
LL OR BIGGIE?
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 pm
***Redman taught me how to roll a blunt, lol
^ mystikal taught me to shake my ass and watch myself. at the same time even.
***that nigga should’ve learned not to videotape himself coercing employees into fucking, on some blackmail shit…lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 pm
COC’s the Posse, roll like the Nazis
Blood Debiasi, rule like Kadafi
Coming out of Harlem the land of the stardom
Yeah huh we ballin’ driving we start them
Problems we solve ‘em, .38 revolve ‘em>>>Pacs rants at the end of Hit Em Up
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 pm
***Man, I love inside jokes…I was hoping to be a part of one, someday (c) Steve Carrell in “the Officeâ€, lol
^I still haven’t saw that show yet. How many episodes have been aired already? Damn, I wish everything was On Demand. I can’t sit and wait for a tv show anymore. Rather be readin’…
Chow time maggotz
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Joffe Jo Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
LL OR BIGGIE?
***not “bikini, small, heels tall, she said she loved the ocean”, lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
^^
EPMD gave me a heads up on what AIDS is back in the day!
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 pm
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
>>>YOU THINK NONE OF THESE SONGS HAD A POSTIVE AFFECT ON YOUNG BLACK MALES, MAYBE IT DIDNT AFFECT YOU BUT I KNOW IT HAD A POSITIVE AFFECT ON PLENTY ON YOUNG BLACK MEN I REW UP AROUND
—————————-
… his life, not his songs … anybody can say anything positive or negative on a song … so what … your judged by how you live, not how you spit … come on , this aint rocket science ladies and gentleman … and these “black men†you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are blackâ€), what positive influence did he have on them ?!? … did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
OK BUT WHAT YOUR ASKING OF HIM IS TO BE A FTHER OR A TEACHER TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HE DOESNT NOW AND WILL NEVER MEET WHAT BETTER WAY FOR HIM TO INFLUENCE HIM AND GET A POSITIVE MESSAGE OUT THAN TO WROTE A SONG FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO HEAR. BUT IT DAMN SURE AINT HIS JOB TO TEACH US HOW TO BALANCE A CHECKBOOK, AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE SOME MISGUIDED FOOLS TOOK AWAY THE BANDANAS AND THUG LIFE TATTOS FROM PAC BUT OTHERS OF US TOOK AWAY HIS WORDS AND HIS MUSIC,
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 pm
>>>my phone use sucks and i am not about to have my number blown up by Pac haters
—————————
…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought for those who Eat to Live (about 144,000 or maybe 5%), not stalking a DJ … im used to disagreeing with the masses, anyway … it’s what i do as a bearer of truth … dont sweat yourself, homes …
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 pm
Going Back to Cali>To Live and Die in LA
man Icon i was gonna let you in on the joke too and then you said that…the big version is better and the LL not the poster version is nice too but California love gets em all. Fresh outta jail!
what up LL
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm
^I still haven’t saw that show yet. How many episodes have been aired already? Damn, I wish everything was On Demand. I can’t sit and wait for a tv show anymore. Rather be readin’…
***It’s on Season 2….I usually DVR TV shows…I never have time to sit and watch them, when they come on, so I try to record joints that interest me, so I can watch them when it’s convenient…right now, I got like 50 joints saved that I’ll probably never watch…ON DEMAND made Monday nights mandatory “the Wire” night, regardless of whatever else was going on, for a minute there….
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm
and these “black men†you grew up around (somehow that sounds strangely like: ’some of my best friends are blackâ€), what positive influence did he have on them ?!?
I SAID THAT THE WAY I DID CAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE STRESSING HIS IMPACT ON YOUNG BLACK MEN SO I MADE SURE I CLAIRIFIED THAT MANY YOUNG BLACK MEN WERE POSTIVLY AFFECTED BY HIM
THAT IS ALL
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 pm
…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought for those who Eat to Live (about 144,000 or maybe 5%), not stalking a DJ … im used to disagreeing with the masses, anyway … it’s what i do as a bearer of truth … dont sweat yourself, homes …
whoa as usal come down from up on the rock. Moses already brought me the commandments. and tell me does God really sound like Charlton Heston? Or James Earl Jones? Im hoping for James.
seriously though Land Im not even talking bout you im sure there are numerous nameless posters who would blow up my phone. jeez talk about dont sweat yourself..
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Crazy88Since88 Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pm
green eyes Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
… did he teach them how to find and apply knowledge of God and Self ? … did he teach them about how to raise a child or balance a checkbook ? did he teach a man how to intellectually and spiritually fight oppression ? … did he teach about investment portfolios ? … or did he influence youngsters about how to wear a bandanna? or rock tatoos? or stomp dudes out at a Vegas event? what good is “Thug Life†to a man trying to feed his babies and protect and support his wife ? Pac was a major influence to BOYS … a real mature, grown man just sees him as an entertainer, and a damn good one …
^^ has any rapper?
^^
EPMD gave me a heads up on what AIDS is back in the day!
^^^
The J.I.M.M.Y.J.I.M….It’s Jimmmyyyyy!
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
***It’s on Season 2….I usually DVR TV shows…I never have time to sit and watch them, when they come on, so I try to record joints that interest me, so I can watch them when it’s convenient…right now, I got like 50 joints saved that I’ll probably never watch…ON DEMAND made Monday nights mandatory “the Wire†night, regardless of whatever else was going on, for a minute there….
YEAH I’M THE SAME WAY AND MOST DEFINTELY WAS WITH THE WIRE EXCEPT IT WAS MONDAY AFTERNOONS I COULDNT WAIT TILL NIGHT
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
>>>^^ has any rapper?
————————
… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary” … and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:10 pm
flava flav taught me not to EVA take drugs..crack is wack!..lol
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:11 pm
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
>>>^^ has any rapper?
————————
… smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
^^
Tru Words!
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:11 pm
>>>whoa as usal come down from up on the rock. Moses already brought me the commandments. and tell me does God really sound like Charlton Heston? Or James Earl Jones? Im hoping for James.
———————————–
… wow … smh … typical … very predictable … just suprised at who its coming from …
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 pm
“rudimentaryâ€
ahh my influence still shining…never said you were a hater just didnt understand how you cant appreciate I get around for what it is. Or so many tears? smh.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 pm
>>… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary†… and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Word preach!
I’d rather have you fear me, then have your mother teary eyed
Flowers, candles, 40 bottles where he died
Know he lied (But the young kid had to show his pride)>>>Me Against The World
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:13 pm
…. its not that serious doggie, im delivering food for thought
***Aiight, lemme get an order of porkchops, with a 40 on the side…and a pack of newports….i’m trynna think about smashing off white chicks and figuring out a way to do the white man’s bidding without standing out too much, cuz I wanna play my position the background and not take away from his shine, and that’s exactly what I need to get in the proper coonish frame of mind…lol and j/k—trying to bring some levity to the forum….that disclaimer is out of respect, cuz I know you know me better than to take that shit seriously, fam
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Realest shit ever spoken:
“If I don’t like it, I don’t like it, that don’t mean that I’m hatin’”
(c) Common, the 6th Sense
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:15 pm
BTW…>Kanye swacked the fuck of “Shorty Wanna Be a Thug” for “Drive Slow”….
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:18 pm
landLORD Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
>>>^^ has any rapper?
————————
… no … which is my point exactly … they’re just entertainers … for people to get offended because the next man doesnt enjoy what he enjoys, is extremely selfish, self-centered and, well, “rudimentary†… and a grown man emotionally defending another grown man, who is not a personal friend or blood relative is idolatry at best and homo at worst … smh @ people who call someone a hater for not liking what they like … immaturity run amuck …
THAT I CAN AGREE WITH 100 % BUT AT THE SAME TIME ( AND I’M NOT SAYING YOU DID THIS LAND ) YOU CAN’T DISCOUNT THE IMPACT PAC OR ANYONE MIGHT HAVE HAD ON AN INDIVIUAL,
BUT LIKE I SAID I HATE THESE PAC ARGUEMENTS THEY GO NO WHERE
I’M GONNA GO SMOKE SOME CRAZY ILL KUSH AND GET ME SOME LUNCH
I’LL HOLLAAAA
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 pm
… wow … smh … typical … very predictable … just suprised at who its coming from …
I dont know why Im known for having a smart ass mouthed. It just aint that serious Land. I know you have good taste in music I personally check your reccomendations. But jeez lighten up. Not every song has to enlighten the masses.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 pm
” THE ENGINEERS THE FIEND / HE RECORDS THE BASS “
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 pm
I’M GONNA GO SMOKE SOME CRAZY ILL KUSH AND GET ME SOME LUNCH
I’LL HOLLAAAA
two times! im out til later kids.
Land dont get your kufi in a bunch… j/k
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
.>>But jeez lighten up. Not every song has to enlighten the masses.
————————–
… point taken, and i accept that … again though, im just passionate about Pac debates because there are so many other brothers that could be elevated to the influential, role model status that Pac bears … and his life had so much promise and potential, and its my personal opinion that his bad judgement fucked it up …
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Pac stans are the worst, they act like they actually knew the guy.
I’m out, until the next time a slandering of Pac discussion comes back. Until then……i’ll leave with this….
It don’t matter what you do or say
We capping you, kilo capital, Harlem USA>>Any Hook Pac Came Up with in his whole life
AHAHAHHAHAHA
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
and his life had so much promise and potential, and its my personal opinion that his bad judgement fucked it up … i agree 100 %. however at the same time- having bad role models and thinking your an immortal 24 year old doesnt help.
he could have been so much more. maybe he ultimately would have. it really doesnt matter though because he’s gone and you cant change how a man lived his life after he’s died.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Question for the room- what would you legacy be/have been @ 24 yrs old?
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Lol @ the intellectual shots taken between Meen and Land… fuckin’ love it.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:34 pm
good question.
im thinking….
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:34 pm
icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Question for the room- what would you legacy be/have been @ 24 yrs old?
a mutha fuckin pimp
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
D. Billz Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Lol @ the intellectual shots taken between Meen and Land… fuckin’ love it.
***Def Jef vs. Paris, out this joint
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:36 pm
***Where are they now? Def Jef….
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Question for the room- what would you legacy be/have been @ 24 yrs old?
Not much. neither would malcom martin or quincy jones. james brown recorded papa at 30. lets be for real. the man did more in his life than most and yes his legacy is fucked up but thats not his fault. While alive he put more emotion soul and love into his music than most rappers put into their whole lives. I feel you land but the reason why they werent elevated to his status is cuz they werent nice as him. Just cuz you can get all lyrical if you cant communicate to the people then what is the point. The talibs the lupes while I love them are preaching to the converted. Pac spoke to the heathens and made them listen. Not all of them got his message but I guarantee 10 percent did. and thats who we are speaking to right land?
They call us animals and put us in cages, same niggas are superstars when they put us on stages-Young Jeezy. explaining the plight of the black man in one bar. It doesnt take being lyrically advanced to make a fantastic point. And more people understand you that way
*steps down off soapbox*
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Question for the room- what would you legacy be/have been @ 24 yrs old?
^ A good dude on his way to spiritual greatness… a good concubine, friend, motivator, knowledge kicker… intelligent… creative… ambitious… optimistic…
I feel a lil’ too narcisstic talkin’ about myself so I’m gonna stop there. You’d have to ask my family/peers…
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:38 pm
***Def Jef vs. Paris, out this joint
i wanna be Paris he tried to kill Bush. I more fashion myself an Ice Cube circa death certificate. street knowledge all day. Even cube now is a hero of mine.
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:38 pm
smh @ any1 who takes what any1 says or what they actually say serious….its a blog 90 percent is bullshit the other 9 percent is alter egos & the other 1percent is real shit that iceberg spits
January 3rd, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Not much. neither would malcom martin or quincy jones. james brown recorded papa at 30. lets be for real. the man did more in his life than most and yes his legacy is fucked up but thats not his fault. While alive he put more emotion soul and love into his music than most rappers put into their whole lives. I feel you land but the reason why they werent elevated to his status is cuz they werent nice as him. Just cuz you can get all lyrical if you cant communicate to the people then what is the point. The talibs the lupes while I love them are preaching to the converted. Pac spoke to the heathens and made them listen. Not all of them g