More On Cristalgate, Company Responds

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It has come to my attention that one of the quotes from Frédéric Rouzaud of Cristal was incorrectly attributed to him, when the words were actually those of the article’s author. Apparently the "unwelcomed attention" statemant was not in fact made by Rouzaud. This leaves the two sentences that he did utter when asked whether he felt the relationship between hip hop and the high priced champagne could be detrimental to his company:

"What can we do? We can’t forbid people from buying it. I’m sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business." 

Like I said over in the comments of Clyde’s post about the misquotation, the lack of the phrase "unwelcomed attention" does somewhat minimize the impact of the allegation. However, I still feel like a company who has reaped millions of dollars in revenue, plus enjoyed God only knows how much free advertising could at least sound a little more welcoming of our patronage. (Of course when I say ‘our’ I mean the ballers who actually buy this stuff.)

Some people have suggested that the comments were perfectly reasonable when you take the product’s  reputation and upscale clientele into consideration. To those people I say: bullshit. When I look at rappers nowadays, I see just as many wearing Gucci suits and being chauffeured around in Rolls Royce’s as I do guys in baggy jeans shooting at one another outside radio stations.

Does hip hop have issues? Of course it does, but you can’t tell me that the wealthy businessmen and socialites that also purchase this stuff are squeeky clean. I’m sure if we were all aware of some of the stuff these guys are guilty of, they’d make people like 50 Cent and Suge Knight look like altar boys.

Anyway, I say that to say this: I could care less about the image of your brand. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the activities that your customers are involved in, at the very least you should show some appreciation for their patronage or else keep your mouth shut. The idea that people can spend money on a product and then be talked down to because of the actions of a few is wholly absurd.

Anyway, today Louis Roederer Cristal issued the following statement:

"A house like Louis Roederer would not have existed since 1776 without being totally open and tolerant to all forms of culture and art, including the most recent musical and fashion styles which — like hiphop — keep us in touch with modernity."


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438 Responses to “More On Cristalgate, Company Responds”

  1. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    CRISTALGATE CLASSIC

  2. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    HAHA SORRY JOE 88 AND OTHERS LOOKING TO YELL WELL YOU KNOW WHAT

  3. SOSA 420 Says:

    First!!

  4. D. Billz Says:

    Lol @ Cristalgate. You’sa a funny dude Es.

  5. D. Billz Says:

    SOSA 420 Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
    First!!

    ^ “Try again, muddasucka”

  6. SOSA 420 Says:

    guess not….they backpeddlin like a muthafucka!

  7. SOSA 420 Says:

    ^ “Try again, muddasucka”

    HAHAHAHA MY BAD, MY BAD

  8. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    SOSA 420 Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
    guess not….they backpeddlin like a muthafucka!

    THATS RIGHT TY BIGS IS HERE BORED WITH NO WORK LEFT TO DO, SO AINT NOBODY GETTING THAT FIRST SHIT OFF ON MY WATCH

  9. D. Billz Says:

    Either way it’s too late. He said what he said and he meant it when he said it the first time. I hate those phony ass retracted statements that they issue right after somebody said some fucked up shit. It’s like slap in the face.

  10. SOSA 420 Says:

    “but you can’t tell me that the wealthy businessmen and socialites that also purchase this stuff are squaeky clean. I’m sure if we were all aware of some of the stuff these guys are guilty of they’d make people like 50 Cent and Suge Knight look like altar boys. ”
    ______________________________________________
    TRUE, No Doubt,

  11. D. Billz Says:

    Btw, anybody be keepin’ up with Phonte’s blogs on Little Brother’s Myspace? He got a new joint posted up. Once again, he doesn’t let me down.

  12. Filth Says:

    http://www.myspace.com/thefreshairfund

    FIRE.. this is how its supposed to sound!

  13. sphinx Says:

    no matter what, that statement from cristal came about because of the boycott. their interview with the economist shows what they think of rap when they’re talking in capitalist circles. brush the haters off as they come.

  14. T Nelson Says:

    bullshyt its incredible how companies apologize for shyt only after people to stop buying thier shyt…..if no one would have reacted to the initial story we wouldnt have heard a thing about it…… I say chill with the alcohol for a while anyway summer weather + black people + alcohol = all of bullshyt

  15. T Nelson Says:

    ^^ a lot

  16. eskay Says:

    *goes back and corrects mispellings*

  17. D. Billz Says:

    Filth Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
    http://www.myspace.com/thefreshairfund

    FIRE.. this is how its supposed to sound!

    ^ I fucks wit’ it, no bullshit. “Fresh air aint free”… that slogan is ill.

  18. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    This a bullshit PR spin they trying to pull. If this was there true feeling it wouldn’t have taken this long to put out a statement.

  19. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    Stll no Cam’Ron response.

  20. H Town Chick Says:

    These fucking people always felt this way!!! I have no idea why we as people endorse some of the most irrelevant things such as cristal. What we value in life amazes me. I understand that at a certain point in your life you reach a level that exposes you to the finer things such as cristal but damn regular niggas living pay check to paycheck was popping cris in the club thinking that they were living the life of a star, hoping that they were impressing women when little do you know, we already know you really don’t have it like that. We laugh at dudes like that because we know they goin to be sick when they go back to real life. So why not endorse some shit that matters because of bottle of cristal wont make you look like a star and should never make you feel better about yourself. Black people, we have bump our heads so many times before we learn our lesson.

  21. Filth Says:

    Thanks D. Billz, I appreciate you checking it out… Thats my group.. me and the other dude is name butta verses, he was on the last De La Soul album.. We making some moves in the “hip hop” world, we just arent on that interscope steriod gun shot shit! haha.. spread the word man, thanks..

    ps.. our mixtape is CRAZY!

  22. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    We need more black ownership of the things we buy. We as a people don’t understand our buying power.

  23. D. Billz Says:

    H Town Chick… Damn, sounds like you gettin’ your Angie Davis on (my type of lady).

    But I agree 100%. Like Kanye said, “they made us hate ourself, and love their wealth”. And for some reason, we’ve always equated their materials with being successful in the world. I watch them time after time distribute a new product only to see us chasing it like savages and spending every last dollar to get it. Only for it to get worn out until they release something new to toy with us. It’s the Willie Lynch syndrome in full effect. Yes, there are plenty or rich, Black athletes, rappers, and entertainers who buy this product. But unfortunately rappers have warped the minds of many men (and women) into believing that having “this” or “that” product will align you with the status quo. Fuck that, why not promote books? We quick to yell out products that depreciate value once you get ‘em (cars, jewelry, women… ok, ok, I’m just kiddin’ on the “women” part lol), yet we don’t promote things that can build your mind and a foundation for yourself. But once again, that’s just the way I see it.

  24. 456 Says:

    ha! It is gonna burn when they realize how they fucked up. It is not only black people that listen to jay: all wanna be ballers of all colors and class are checking with jay-z before they purchase their next bottle! i know african cats with that nigerian oil money that say how high when jay say jump. these cats is probably already feelin it.

  25. D. Billz Says:

    Filth Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
    Thanks D. Billz, I appreciate you checking it out… Thats my group.. me and the other dude is name butta verses, he was on the last De La Soul album.. We making some moves in the “hip hop” world, we just arent on that interscope steriod gun shot shit! haha.. spread the word man, thanks..

    ps.. our mixtape is CRAZY!

    ^ No doubt chief. Anyway that I can support then I will do that. As a matter of fact, I’ma download that free mixtape when I get home. Keep doin’ ya thing chief. I knew that name Butta Verses looked familiar. The album The Grind Date stays in my car.

  26. el_feces_grande Says:

    BLACK/HIPHOP PEOPLE THAT BUY CRISTAL=2% OF SALES
    WHITE FOLKS THAT BUY CRISTAL=98% OF SALES…I MEAN CRIS IS BIG IN HIP HOP BUT ONLY LIEK 5-10 ARTISTS DRINK THAT SHIT CONSISTENTLY..CRISTAL IS LIKE THE ROLEX OF LIQUORS..WHILE A GOOD AMOUNT OF BLACKS HAVE EM..MOST NIGGAS IS ROCKIN/DRINKIN TIMEX/HENNESEY, TAG HAUER/ALIZE..I MEAN ON THE AVERAGE NITE IN THE AVERAGE CLUB HENNY MOET AND ALIZE TYPE LIQUORS FAR OUTSELL CRISTAL..NIGGAS GET ONE BOTTLE OF CRIS…LIKE 10-20 BOTTLES OF HENN OR MO…NIGGAS DONT BE POPPIN CRIS LIKE THAT..ITS SPOKE ABOUT MORE THAN ITS BOUGHT.

  27. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    somebody showed rouzaud how much money he was gonna lose. bs pr move. i wonder what bottles ken lay poppin.

  28. Boosie Says:

    the Better version

    Eskay’s girl– http://uplode.us/up/eskaygirl.jpg

    eskay posing with actual girlfriend– http://uplode.us/up/eskaywitothergirl.jpg

    Tyrone biggums girls– http://uplode.us/up/tyrone.jpg
    tyrone biggums girls- http://uplode.us/up/tyrone2.jpg
    (these are the types of women he likes)

    Picture of tyrone- http://uplode.us/up/tyronepic.jpg
    http://uplode.us/up/tyronepic2.jpg

    d.billz type of woman- http://uplode.us/up/dbillz.jpg
    http://uplode.us/up/dbillz2.jpg
    picture of dbillz– http://uplode.us/up/dbillzandfriend.jpg
    pic of dbillz and nbmore– http://uplode.us/up/dbillzandnbmore.jpg

    here is what foekist prolly look like- http://uplode.us/up/foekistandgirl.jpg
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    http://uplode.us/up/foekistonbalcony.jpg

  29. el_feces_grande Says:

    ha! It is gonna burn when they realize how they fucked up. It is not only black people that listen to jay: all wanna be ballers of all colors and class are checking with jay-z before they purchase their next bottle! i know african cats with that nigerian oil money that say how high when jay say jump. these cats is probably already feelin it.

    IF YOU THINK WHITE FOLKS WITH REAL MONEY AND POWER IS REALLY LISTENIN TO JAY Z LIKE THAT YOU ARE CRAZY,,THEN YALL GONNA ALSO BELIEVE THAT A COMPANY THATS BEEN SELLING LIQUOR FOR NEARLY 300 YEARS SUDDENLY NEEDS THE SUPPORT OF THE HIP HOP MARKET OR THEY WILL FAIL..NIGGAS STARTED RINKIN CRIS CAUSE WHITE FOLKS WAS DRINKIN IT ALREADY…NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

  30. D. Billz Says:

    *jumps on stage with original Baltimore Bullets fitted, snatches mic from El_feces, tells DJ to play “Shook Ones” beat*

    Fuck it… lets get this shit POPPIN! Listen…

    you called yourself legendary
    but to me, you’re secondary
    callin’ me out was so unncessary
    actin’ tough with all sorts of imitations
    but if i swing
    you filing lawsuits with court litigations
    you was the same kid who got wedgied and beat up
    now you e-thuggin’ talkin’ bout, “when can we meet up?”
    typing reckless witcha keyboard on caps lock
    fall back Ahk (Ock)
    you must be on X pills
    or takin’ totes of the crack rock
    i know you don’t pack glocks
    i’ll rush su casa
    snuff you, hit up your stash box
    pocket the cash, and stuff the weed in my black socks
    cyber fag
    probably on webcam with your shirt up
    another pussy caught with his skirt up
    watch who you typin’ at
    before you get yourself hurt up
    WORD UP!

  31. eskay Says:

    >>BLACK/HIPHOP PEOPLE THAT BUY CRISTAL=2% OF SALES
    WHITE FOLKS THAT BUY CRISTAL=98% OF SALES…I MEAN CRIS IS BIG IN HIP HOP BUT ONLY LIEK 5-10 ARTISTS DRINK THAT SHIT CONSISTENTLY..

    I wouldn’t be so quick to believe that. I’d need to see a sales report before I trivialized hip hop’s impact on their bottom line.

  32. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    el_feces_grande Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 12:58 pm
    BLACK/HIPHOP PEOPLE THAT BUY CRISTAL=2% OF SALES
    WHITE FOLKS THAT BUY CRISTAL=98% OF SALES…I MEAN CRIS IS BIG IN HIP HOP BUT ONLY LIEK 5-10 ARTISTS DRINK THAT SHIT CONSISTENTLY..CRISTAL IS LIKE THE ROLEX OF LIQUORS..WHILE A GOOD AMOUNT OF BLACKS HAVE EM..MOST NIGGAS IS ROCKIN/DRINKIN TIMEX/HENNESEY, TAG HAUER/ALIZE..I MEAN ON THE AVERAGE NITE IN THE AVERAGE CLUB HENNY MOET AND ALIZE TYPE LIQUORS FAR OUTSELL CRISTAL..NIGGAS GET ONE BOTTLE OF CRIS…LIKE 10-20 BOTTLES OF HENN OR MO…NIGGAS DONT BE POPPIN CRIS LIKE THAT..ITS SPOKE ABOUT MORE THAN ITS BOUGHT.

    But think about how many niggas try to ball out and break themselves trying to pop them bottles. I ain’t never seen a white person drinking cris. Now I know they do, but i also know we make up a large portion of sales in this country. They didn’t issue a retraction for no reason.

  33. el_feces_grande Says:

    LOL BAD PR MOVE…JAY REALLY GOT YOU NIGGAS BLINDED..NIGGAS THINK THE WORLD IS 4 SQUARE MILES….IF ANYTHING THIS MIGHT CAUSE SALES TO INCREASE…WHITE FOLKS FEEL LIKE THEY GOT BACK THEY LIQUOR’S IDENTITY..WONT SEE IT AS NIGGER KOOL AID NO MORE.

  34. H Town Chick Says:

    D. Billz thats totally what I’m saying and even the statement about a certain types of women depreciate is kinda true (sad but kinda true). I dont get why dudes (those in the public eye) dont say yeah ” I read this book and it helped me to do so and so”. Because whether others believe it or not dudes (rappers, athletes, etc.) READ!!!!! I dont know its frustrating to me to see certain things that go on especially when its so obvious that its the wrong thing to do. Like how many times must we repeat the same ole’ mistakes?

  35. eskay Says:

    lol @ Billz having that verse in the stash waiting on el feces

  36. 456 Says:

    d.billz, h town chick: we did go through a period that if a cat didn’t read malcolm x or name check him or say something positive he was castigated in hiphop. it was the thing to be black, proud and informed. but what happened? nwa killed that movement. basically because gangsta music was more interesting. if pe didn’t put out bullshit like muse sick n our mess age maybe we still be on the concious tip. the fact is who ever got the tightest flow and tightest beat is what is gonna influence the majority.

  37. hip hop cops Says:

    i think it’s odd that for once an alcohol purveyor expressly DIDN’T want to target blacks and hispanics

  38. hip hop cops Says:

    oh and WE DIP IT

  39. eskay Says:

    >>I ain’t never seen a white person drinking cris.

    yeah seriously. I mean you see the Paris Hiltons and those types drinking it in clubs, but I’m willing to bet she wouldn’t be drinking it if it wasn’t for Jay-Z.

  40. D. Billz Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
    lol @ Billz having that verse in the stash waiting on el feces

    ^ Lol. Yeah, you know the Kid got at least one in the chamber. Won’t catch me slippin.

  41. eskay Says:

    on a related note, check out the article I just added to the Daily Headlines post about black kids and alchohol.

  42. Ricky D Says:

    I’ve never seen a bottle of Cristal in real life, for all I know its existence is an elaborate hoax.

  43. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    el_feces_grande Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
    LOL BAD PR MOVE…JAY REALLY GOT YOU NIGGAS BLINDED..NIGGAS THINK THE WORLD IS 4 SQUARE MILES….IF ANYTHING THIS MIGHT CAUSE SALES TO INCREASE…WHITE FOLKS FEEL LIKE THEY GOT BACK THEY LIQUOR’S IDENTITY..WONT SEE IT AS NIGGER KOOL AID NO MORE.

    Shit ain’t about Jay, The company made a racist statement by alienating Hip-Hop (Blacks and Latinos).

  44. 456 Says:

    eskay: I wouldn’t be so quick to believe that. I’d need to see a sales report before I trivialized hip hop’s impact on their bottom line.

    ^thank you.
    feces, you think timberland didn’t feel it when hiphop adopted their in the woods gesr and made it official gutterwear? think their profits didn’t double? cristal definitely got a sudden upsurge in sales and while their company is not gonna go belly up, the fact that they are already tryina clean up statements lets you know how serious it is. And believe me if jay tells paris hilton to chill on the cristal she and all her chicken head friends will do it on principal.

  45. D. Billz Says:

    456 Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
    d.billz, h town chick: we did go through a period that if a cat didn’t read malcolm x or name check him or say something positive he was castigated in hiphop. it was the thing to be black, proud and informed. but what happened? nwa killed that movement. basically because gangsta music was more interesting. if pe didn’t put out bullshit like muse sick n our mess age maybe we still be on the concious tip. the fact is who ever got the tightest flow and tightest beat is what is gonna influence the majority.

    ^ And that’s why I support the Lupes, Paps, Saigons, etc. Because ultimately these guys can change the perception alltogether. I mean, some whites are gonna continue to think whatever about us. But it’s the young Black kids whose minds need to be molded. Of course, that starts in the home first.

  46. el_feces_grande Says:

    THEY ISSUED A RETRACTION CAUSE FOR ONE “NIGGERS” IS ALL UP IN ARMS ABOUT SOME MOTHERFUCKIN LIQUOR THAT DONT EVEN MATTER IN TEH BIG SCHEME OF THINGS AND FOR 2 THERE WERE STATEMENTS ATTRIBUTED TO HIM THAT HE DIDNT SAY…NIGGERS IS IGNORANT…FOR EVERY NIGGA THAT BALLS OUT AND “BUYS A BOTTLE FOR HIS BDAY” THERES PROBABLY 300 NIGGAS THATS LIKE “GET 5 BOTTLES OF MOE..OR GET SOME HENNY”…NIGGAS IN THE HOOD AINT POPPIN CRIS LIKE THAT …CRIS IS A BROWNNOSIN DRINK..YOU ONLY POP THAT SHIT AROUND HOES…OR FOR A BDAY OR SOME SHIT.

  47. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
    >>I ain’t never seen a white person drinking cris.

    yeah seriously. I mean you see the Paris Hiltons and those types drinking it in clubs, but I’m willing to bet she wouldn’t be drinking it if it wasn’t for Jay-Z.

    Trendy white folks drink cris because hip-hop made it popular and a status symbol like a Benz or Beamer. They look to us for the next trend.

  48. Boosie Says:

    we all know that white kids drink more than blacks, and they act a fool and wrestle, but they dont go shooting up clubs and shit.

    eskay please moderate my post, thanks.

    Cristal does not need any help in sales from the hip-hop community. cristal has been ran for years, and these people are billionares. This is a side joint.

  49. el_feces_grande Says:

    456 ..ID MAKE A BET WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE US DOESNT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR 50 % OR CRISTALS SALES..HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO EUROPE?..THEY DRINK THIS SHIT FOR ORANGE JUICE IN THE MORNING..YALL MEAN TO TELL ME A NIGGA BEEN RUNNIN A COMP THATS BEEN AROUND 300 YEARS BUT HE DOESNT KNOW WHO HIS CORE AUDIENCE IS? HE’S SMART ENOUGH TO RUN A 300 YR CO..BUT DUMB ENOUGH TO DEGRADE A SUBSATNTIAL PIECE OF HIS BOTTOMLINE?..THATS WHAT YOU TELLIN ME?

  50. Boosie Says:

    think about puffy and jay started drinking cristal because they saw some rich white people drink.

    I highly doubt paris hilton started drinking it because of jay-z yeah maybe he had influence, but this girl is a billionare, her father was drinking cristal before jay-z could say his abc’s.

    I mean jay might have influenced the brand to drink, but best believe cristal bottles in the case was at her house.

  51. 456 Says:

    point is it don’t matter whether you drink cristal or not, the corporate motherfuckers that think we just eat and drink what they tell us to need to feel it if they disrespect us. and this generation need to know on some level what it means to truly flex our economic power.

  52. hovadagod Says:

    “PERIGNON and KRUG will be delighted to have their business”
    ^^^^^^what is this supposed to mean?!that Rouzaud statement is crystal clear!-it easily translates to “We dont want those low lifes(niggERS) buying our product!” Whether it will affect their sales or not, Rouzaud should be FIRED if this BIG LITTLE company claims that they are not racist.

  53. Boosie Says:

    why should he be fired? he runs the product.

  54. 50 Cent Says:

    Fuck Cristal

  55. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    el_feces_grande Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
    456 ..ID MAKE A BET WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE US DOESNT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR 50 % OR CRISTALS SALES..HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO EUROPE?..THEY DRINK THIS SHIT FOR ORANGE JUICE IN THE MORNING..YALL MEAN TO TELL ME A NIGGA BEEN RUNNIN A COMP THATS BEEN AROUND 300 YEARS BUT HE DOESNT KNOW WHO HIS CORE AUDIENCE IS? HE’S SMART ENOUGH TO RUN A 300 YR CO..BUT DUMB ENOUGH TO DEGRADE A SUBSATNTIAL PIECE OF HIS BOTTOMLINE?..THATS WHAT YOU TELLIN ME?

    I bet you choose to drink Hen because of the taste, and not what hip-hop said. She may have been drinking it but the middle class to poor drink it because of hip-hop.

  56. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    no company wants to lose business. these the same folks that make 50 million one year then 55 the next then 53 and say they losin money now. so if we only pushed their sales 2% or whatever, its 2% more than they wanna lose. plus like madein said they follow our trends. jay say cristals corny US cristal sales will dip.

  57. eskay Says:

    >>ID MAKE A BET WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE US DOESNT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR 50 % OR CRISTALS SALES..HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO EUROPE?..THEY DRINK THIS SHIT FOR ORANGE JUICE IN THE MORNING

    feces, you’re a well known Jay-Z hater so by default you’re gonna take the opposite of whatever position he’s taking. have you ever been to Europe? if so say word they drink that much of the shit. anyway, unles you produce numbers, you’re talking out your ass

    >>highly doubt paris hilton started drinking it because of jay-z yeah maybe he had influence, but this girl is a billionare, her father was drinking cristal before jay-z could say his abc’s.

    oh yeah? since when is it cool to drink what your parents drink? I gurantee you those young rich people drink it because of rappers.

  58. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    I bet you couldn’t even find Cris in the hood before 1992

  59. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    Man the reality of it all is that most black folks weren’t even drinkin Cristal till Jay was talkin bout it. Same thing with the throwbacks, and now the button ups. We (not just black people) are conformists by nature. We only do shit for the sake of looking like we’re better than someone else.

  60. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    side note: Whether I like it or not, the truth is the truth. Jay has set just about all the big hip hop trends in the past decade. Oh, let’s not forget about the platinum shit. Remember Tupac and Biggie were rockin gold shit, they were the last big names in hip hop before Jay took the throne.

  61. 456 Says:

    el_feces_grande Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
    456 ..ID MAKE A BET WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE US DOESNT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR 50 % OR CRISTALS SALES..HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO EUROPE?..THEY DRINK THIS SHIT FOR ORANGE JUICE IN THE MORNING..YALL MEAN TO TELL ME A NIGGA BEEN RUNNIN A COMP THATS BEEN AROUND 300 YEARS BUT HE DOESNT KNOW WHO HIS CORE AUDIENCE IS? HE’S SMART ENOUGH TO RUN A 300 YR CO..BUT DUMB ENOUGH TO DEGRADE A SUBSATNTIAL PIECE OF HIS BOTTOMLINE?..THATS WHAT YOU TELLIN ME?

    Yes that is precisely what I’m tellin you because racists have one big blind spot: They don’t understand the nigger power. they don’t understand the language. nigga, i’ll take that bet and i make you another one. i bet you who ever that motherfucker is over at cristal that made the statement that if he has kids in the 15-30 range they listen to hiphop.

  62. Boosie Says:

    These billionare kids start drinking at the age of 13 and 14 and some younger. These kids got the best of the best, so they know about every expensive drink their is. White people know alcohol. Yes Jay has an influence even on rich white kids, but before jay came into that era, you saying that rich white kids didnt know what cristal was?

  63. eskay Says:

    Boosie I had a good mind to delete your comment that was held in moderation, but that shit was so funny I had to let it through.

    And I don’t know, but I’d smash several of the chicks in the ‘tyrone biggums girls’ pic… (Edit: the second pic that is)

    scroll up to 1:02 to see what I’m talking about ya’ll

  64. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    I bet Patron has seen an increase in sales recently as well.

  65. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    F*ck Cristal, Boone’s 2 for 5. If I by anything in a bottle for that price, it better have red and orange hairs attached to it…..

  66. 456 Says:

    WestCoast_GetsDown Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
    no company wants to lose business. these the same folks that make 50 million one year then 55 the next then 53 and say they losin money now. so if we only pushed their sales 2% or whatever, its 2% more than they wanna lose. plus like madein said they follow our trends. jay say cristals corny US cristal sales will dip.

    thank you. i was gonna say the same thing. yo, i wish somebody took stats on black peoples’ buying habits. there should be a stock market index just on nigga purchases and how that shit can change the fate of a company. the koreans know. so does hilfiger.

  67. H Town Chick Says:

    Rich people drink Cristal because they’re rich and yes their parents did drink it too. Rappers got that shit from them. You a rapper and you’re rich ( the same amount of them that are) you go to Europe and see yeah that’s what I should be drinking because ……. That’s what wealthy people drink. They been drinking it so have people like Paris Hilton’s worhtless ass too.

  68. eskay Says:

    >>but before jay came into that era, you saying that rich white kids didnt know what cristal was?

    that’s exactly what I’m saying.

    FYI – statements like this:

    “These billionare kids start drinking at the age of 13 and 14 and some younger. These kids got the best of the best, so they know about every expensive drink their is.”

    have absolutely no basis in fact. you’re speculating on shit you don’t knw about doggie and saying it like it’s fact. I’m sure you’re gonna come back with “oh come on you know it’s true” no, I don’t know it’s true.

  69. eskay Says:

    >>They been drinking it so have people like Paris Hilton’s worhtless ass too.

    again, another statement that is speculation stated as if it was fact. how do you know what Paris Hilton’s “been drinking” none of us even knew who Paris Hilton was back when Jay was setting the Cristal trend.

  70. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>I bet Patron has seen an increase in sales recently as well.

    You gotdamn right. Who even really heard of Patron a year ago… Once again Jay Z did it again. Then came the other rappers and Lil Jon and ‘nem

  71. el_feces_grande Says:

    MAN I CAN TELL 456 YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ECONOMICS..PLUS YOU LISTEN TO SO MUCH RAP MUSIC THAT YOU REALLY THINK NIGGAS BE WATERING THEY LAWNS WITH CRIS..IM NOT GONNA REASON ANYMORE..JAYZ WINS..MATTER FACT CRISTAL SHOULD GIVE HIM HALF THE COMPANY..HE MADE THEM INTO WHAT THEY ARE NOW…THEY WERE LOST THE LAST 270 YRS Before Jay…thank god he came and saved them.

    PS..I dont drink liquor that much,,im a guinness and heineken nigga..only liquor mi drink is Jamaican Rum..straight.

    I KNOW WHEN I GO TO THE LIQUOR STORE THERES ALWAYS DUST ON THE CRISSY BOTTLES..BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT TILL “POPS” COME BACK FROM WHOLESALE TO GET A PINT OF HEN…SUPPLY AND DEMAND PEOPLE..NIGGAS SELL LIKE 2 BOTTLES OF CRIS PER WEEK..COMPARED TO 20 CASES OF HENN OR MOE OR WHATEVER…NIGGAS AINT POPPIN NO CRIS LIKE THAT..AND IM IN NY.

  72. Big Boi RI Says:

    These guys should have shut their mouth and just took the free advertisement and revenue, instead they open their mouth and showed their ignorance and stupidity.

    But I am glad they made their feeling clear, fuck their apology, it makes happy that I dont drink any alcohol.

  73. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    I see at least 5 bottle a night at the club. Times that by 10 if it’s an industry event

  74. el_feces_grande Says:

    SMH AT HOW ONE DAY IT AINT NO RICH RAPPERS BUT THE NEXT DAY..EVERY RAPPER BUYIN CRIS..WHEN YOU IN THE CLUB WHO BUYS CRIS?..THAT ONE NIGGA THAT WANTS ALL THE ATTENTION..WHO ELSE?THAT OTHER ONE NIGGA THAT WANNA IMPRESS THAT ONE RAP NIGGA..EVERYBODY ELSE POPPIN MOET, HENNY, ALIZE AND SHIT..NIGGAS DONT BE AT THE BAR ORDERIN CRIS MAN…

  75. Boosie Says:

    I’m not talking about kids whose parents are millionare’s I’m talking about billionare types like paris hilton that you mentioned.

    Where do you think jay and puffy and biggie, got their drinking cristal from?

    Cristal has mad history b, I know you not trying to tell me that trustfund baby’s didnt know about this shit, when their parents was popping it off at the town picnic every month.

    You saying I’m speculating on shit that I dont know about, and I have seen documentaries on this shit. Come on b. If these kids know about 2,000 dollar caviar plate dinners, then obviously they know where their parents wine cellar is and whats in it.

  76. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    When you think about it, it’s quite amusing how we just follow the leader so to speak. Chicks talking about “all I drink is Patron”, bitch please. Bitch ain’t even know Patron existed a year ago.

    *wonders why people wait till he farts to stop by his cubicle*

  77. eskay Says:

    >>NIGGAS AINT POPPIN NO CRIS LIKE THAT..AND IM IN NY.

    you lost. how you base your statement on how many bottles of Cris you see on the shelve in your local liquor store.

  78. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>NIGGAS DONT BE AT THE BAR ORDERIN CRIS MAN…

    Shole don’t… I know I don’t. I drink before I go in and cop a water with lemon. That keeps most of the chicks from expecting a drink cuz they think I don’t drink, not knowing that I just smashed a pint of Henny in the car. Plus shit in the bar is ridiculously overpriced most of the time.

  79. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    ok boosie killed that shit.. them pics silly as fuck. dbillz and nbmore pic was killin me. ty got some honeys for a crackhead.

  80. 456 Says:

    PS..I dont drink liquor that much,,im a guinness and heineken nigga..only liquor mi drink is Jamaican Rum..straight.

    ^that’s the only thing we agree on at the moment. i keep a bottle of wray and nephews in the cabinet, but only drink guiness semi regular. and believe me i know more about economics than you think. i know jay-z didn’t make cristal rich. but you don’t have anyway of knowing how much hiphop added to their coffers. so you need to stop talking like you do.

  81. eskay Says:

    boosie, you’re talking out your ass. just cuz you saw The Fabulous Life of whoever the fuck on VH1 doens’t qualify you as an authority on Cristal patronage.

    For one, there are only about 700 Billionaires IN THE WHOLE WORLD, many of which I’m sure don’t have kids, don’t drink Cristal, don’t drink at all, so go back to the drawing board with that shit.

  82. Boosie Says:

    el feces is right,

    this brand has been around for 300 yrs. Sales really dont matter to them. These people are billionares, its a side joint. They’ll throw in a Ceo let him run the company, but you people have no history.

    Why do you think the guy said it. He doesnt need hip-hop sales. He is getting plenty when johnson and johnson trust fund babies have bottles of cris at the weekly art gallery showings, where paintings and sculptures cost 30 million dollars and above.

  83. el_feces_grande Says:

    http://www.patronspirits.com

    THAT COMPANY IS BARELY 15 YRS OLD SO I CAN SEE THEM ATTACHIN AND BENEFITTING FROM A PRO HIP HOP STANCE…BUT TO SAY A 300 YR OLD COMPANY NEEDS NIGGER PENNIES…IS CRAZY..ESPECIALLY WHEN THE BOSS IS SAYIN HE DONT NEED NO NIGGER PENNIES.

  84. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    Nobody said hip-hop made cris rich, what we saying is hip-hop has increased there revenue greatly in the the last 10-12 years.

  85. eskay Says:

    smh @ ya’ll saying niggas don’t cop Cris. I’m not talking about at your local fucking hole in the wall guys. Go to Sues on any given night and tell me niggas aint’ copping Cris. motherfuckers act like hood always = poor. come on man, I know plenty of niggas with money and without that spend on Cristal and other expensive shit so please. I’m not saying that if they all boycotted the company would go under, but they’d still lose money.

  86. H Town Chick Says:

    Then how can you say that she wasn’t. My basis for saying that was her parents are wealthy people that have traveled many times over and so were there parents’ parents. When you travel and deal with a certain type of people you get exposed to others things. So, who is to say that her parents hadnt exposed her to cris before Jay? Futhermore, I make statements that are my opinion like everybody else here. I respect your opinion I decide whether to receive it as factual or not you should do the same. I wasnt on some, oh I know P. Hilton been diong this and that but if you look at her history it could quite possibly be true.

  87. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    ^^^ exactly. but sales will dip regardless and them rich cats dont wanna take a L no matter what.

  88. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    ^^@eskay

  89. Boosie Says:

    eskay wrong again, I dont hardly even watch vh1, so that is not where I got it from, it was an actual documentary, not some E hollywood bullshit.

    Eskay if they dont drink cristal, who is cristal for? You saying their parents dont drink, that is who the company is catered too. Lets not just say billionares, but middle to upper hundred millionares as well.

    If Cristal has been around, and doesnt need hip hop sales. WHo is drinking the bullshit?

  90. 456 Says:

    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
    smh @ ya’ll saying niggas don’t cop Cris. I’m not talking about at your local fucking hole in the wall guys. Go to Sues on any given night and tell me niggas aint’ copping Cris. motherfuckers act like hood always = poor. come on man, I know plenty of niggas with money and without that spend on Cristal and other expensive shit so please. I’m not saying that if they all boycotted the company would go under, but they’d still lose money.

    ^substantial money. feces you so anti-jay that you can’t see sense. black america is the eight richest nation in the world. with the most influence. if hiphop said fuck nike. that company would feel it. pepsi gave up 300 million so that russell wouldn’t call a real boycott over the ludacris bill oreilly situation. if cristal wasn’t so removed he know better than to even say that shit.

  91. eskay Says:

    H Town, no beef, but go back and read what you wrote:

    “Rich people drink Cristal because they’re rich and yes their parents did drink it too. ”

    “They been drinking it so have people like Paris Hilton’s worhtless ass too.”

    those two comments sound like you’re stating them as fact when as you said, it’s opinion. When I made my statement I said “I’ll bet you she didn’t start until…” big difference.

  92. el_feces_grande Says:

    I see at least 5 bottle a night at the club. Times that by 10 if it’s an industry event

    OK 10 BOTTLES AND LETS ASSUME THE CLUB HOLDS 1000 THATS 1 BOTTLE FOR EACH 100 CLUB HEADS…1 BOTTLE CANT EVEN GET A ANOREXICA LINSAY LOHANISH CHICK A GOOD BUZZ…CRIS IS FOR BROWNNOSIN NIGGAS AT THE CLUB..A BOTTLE OF CRIS INSIDE THE CLUB IS LIKE A GSX-R BIKE OUTSIDE THE CLUB…IT DOES ALL THE TALKIN FOR YOU…BUT FOR THE TRU RIDERS?..ORDERIN HEN AND SHIT BY THE CASE LOADS..WHOLE CLUB SIPPIN ON ALIZE AND HYPNO TYPE LICKS.

  93. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    eskay’ s right. It pains me to say. a few years back when I used to do sounds and shit I went out wit one of my custos to a bar and he popped like 4 bottles. When you go to them real spots they be poppin don and moey like its noffin. My mans gave me 3 stacks to pop some bottles wit. he looked up and I still wsa drinkin boones farms in one hand and I jazzed it up wit a red stripe in the other.

  94. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay if they dont drink cristal, who is cristal for? You saying their parents dont drink, that is who the company is catered too. Lets not just say billionares, but middle to upper hundred millionares as well.

    oh so now it’s not just Billionaires huh? a minute ago you specifically excluded millionaires but now when you hear real numbers you switch it up. figures.

    whatever man, anyway like I said and West Coast said the company isn’t gonna go broke but are you denying that they make alot of money off of hip hop? the City of Houston ran out of the shit during All Star Weekend. The whole City! so tell me, what demographic frequents All Star Weekend?

  95. eskay Says:

    I’m done here. All I know is, Boosie and el feces need to step their argument game up.

    (I don’t think I’ve ever lost an argument on this site)

  96. Kheri Wes Says:

    oh yeah cris is definitely the drink for the stunners, i forgot who said it, but you would have 2 a whole bottle 2 yourself to be aight; The sales are going to dip a bit, but a lot of cris drinkers were drinking it before hip-hop made it popular, so we will see

  97. H Town Chick Says:

    I don’t see how you interpet that as me stating it as fact but, OK Eskay I still luv u and the site. Gotta go to a meeting.

  98. nation of thugacation Says:

    eskay lemme just say a couple of things
    that post was fucking well written
    but i actually do wanna see the econimist or wherever the interview comes from
    i actually do pop cris, but not on a regular basis, just on special ocasions, or else its the greygoose all the time
    mostly because of jay
    paris hilton must have started drinking that shit because of jay… SHE LOVES RAPPERS, remember?

  99. Boosie Says:

    The whole point is WHERE DID PUFFY AND JAY GET NOTION THAT “WOW I NEED TO START DRINKING CRISTAL TOO”??????

    answer: rich white people

    this is eskay’s essay on cristal

    cristal has been into existence for a long time, so rich white kids didnt know anything about cristal, but until jay-z came along, the kids of white parents who jay got the notion to drink it from, all of sudden became infatuted with this drink. The white kids parents have been drinking it for years and years, and didnt know one thing about, but thanks to jay-z, he made it possible for them through his raps. The white kids found new delight in this drink not knowing there were 12 bottles in their father’s wine cellular the whole time. Thus making the white kids, say “thanks dad”, you really did care for me all these years.

  100. nBmore Says:

    ITS funny how JZ can take a politcal stand against CRISTOL. BUT never addressed issues thru out his career. He would rather FLOOD THE YOUTHS mind into believing that BOOSTING about Expensive drinks is cool. He then calls retirement WITHOUT A RADIO HIT to clean up what he has started. If dipset can be blamed for influencing the YOUTH then JZ has to own up to his part. People like PAC & FACE found time in there career to drop inspirational songs while MC”s like JZ & DIPSET would rather see money from there songs.

  101. nation of thugacation Says:

    oh i meant, i DRANK cris… because of jay-z and all.. but im white.

    >> “Eskay I still luv u”

    o0o0o0o

  102. el_feces_grande Says:

    ESKAY..YOU KNOW SUES IS THE MOST BROWNNOSING CLUB IN WESTCHEDDA..NIGGAS ONLY BUY CRIS WHEN THERES OTHERS TO STAND ARUOND AND LOOK AT THEM SO THEY CAN BE LIKE “OH THEY RICH”…GO TO THE PJ’S HOW MANY EMPTY BOTTLES OF CRIS YOU SEE IN THE HALLWAYS?..NOW HOW MANY E&J AND BACARDI AND OTEHR SHIT U SEE?..NUFF SAID..IM NOT SAYIN NIGGAS AINT COPPIN CRIS MORE THAN BEFORE ..ALL IM SAYIN IS WE AS BLACK ARE OVER EXAGERATING OUR WORTH AND PYING POWER WHEN IT COMES TO CRISTAL..THE FUCKIN OWNER OF THE COMP HIMSELF IS SAYIN..I DONT NEED YOUR MONEY…ITS OBVIOUS IT CANT BE THAT MUCH MONEY TO HIM..

    pepsi gave up 300 million so that russell wouldn’t call a real boycott over the ludacris bill oreilly situation

    http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news/12027682

    ONCE AGAIN THERE YOU GO WITH OVER INFLATED VIEWS OF THE BLACK MANS POWER IN WHITE AMERICA…TRY 5 MILLION CHIEF…NOT 300.

  103. Boosie Says:

    eskay you sick b, I deaded you on mad arguments b. That lost shit is for kids. The cam situation, I deaded you, yesterday with that tommy shit, I deaded, today with this cristal I deaded.

    I’m un touchable b.

    I dont normally talk about myself like this, but you on some ego shit duke.

  104. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    (I don’t think I’ve ever lost an argument on this site)

    >>>How can you its your site.

    anyhoo, ty, I finished listening to Joe buddens AKA Jermaine Dupri. And my opinon has not changed…exept I realized that ghost was talkin about him when he uses the term “smart dumb cat”

  105. Kheri Wes Says:

    eskay, i know you love jay, but everything in hip-hop doesnt happen becasue him, you beat down the 50 stans, but there probably isnt a post in the last two months where you dont make a reference to Hov, i know you a stan, but its becoming a bit much, its like your brainwashed sometimes

  106. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>(I don’t think I’ve ever lost an argument on this site)

    Whatever, you don’t wanna see me on that Pap shit again, homey. I’m gettin revved up even thinkin about it.

  107. nation of thugacation Says:

    i honestly dont think jay thinks that much, not to judge or anything, but the guy has so much money, he made a habit of drinking champagne or just spending money, like the guy has so much, tha fuck does he care. he even said he prefers the taste of dom rose, so the only thing hes pissed about was promoting it for so long and not being appreciate. he just feels forced to hold down hip-hop and start this lil boycott ouz hes started saying the hold yellow/gold bottles thing… he feels “guilty” (ish) but im sure he wasnt offended. fuck it, since when does hip hop allow itself to get offended from rich white european people, fuck hip hop doenst even care about senators and shit, not generalizing, but it is what it is… ever since boycotts and lawsuits are happening every week everyone is just making a big deal…

    (not biting tybiggs on the novel tip, so ill stop it here)

  108. nBmore Says:

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
    The whole point is WHERE DID PUFFY AND JAY GET NOTION THAT “WOW I NEED TO START DRINKING CRISTAL TOO”??????

    answer: rich white people

    this is eskay’s essay on cristal

    cristal has been into existence for a long time, so rich white kids didnt know anything about cristal, but until jay-z came along, the kids of white parents who jay got the notion to drink it from, all of sudden became infatuted with this drink. The white kids parents have been drinking it for years and years, and didnt know one thing about, but thanks to jay-z, he made it possible for them through his raps. The white kids found new delight in this drink not knowing there were 12 bottles in their father’s wine cellular the whole time. Thus making the white kids, say “thanks dad”, you really did care for me all these years.

    JZ did not poplurize cristol. He just flaunted it so much for REP STATUS. Just to say yea im big pimpin.

  109. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>eskay, i know you love jay, but everything in hip-hop doesnt happen becasue him, you beat down the 50 stans, but there probably isnt a post in the last two months where you dont make a reference to Hov, i know you a stan, but its becoming a bit much, its like your brainwashed sometimes

    Got damnit if you ain’t take the words out my mouf. Talkin about you ain’t never lost an argument, we got you to basically admit to being a Jay Z dycksucker last week, Es’. Don’t play yaself, because you were in denial at first.

  110. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    nation of thugacation Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
    oh i meant, i DRANK cris… because of jay-z and all.. but im white.

    >> “Eskay I still luv u”

    o0o0o0o
    ——-
    http://img.timeinc.net/teenpeople/images/2005/access/051205_jay_manuel180.jpg

  111. eskay Says:

    ok, psych! I’m still here. lemme hand Boosie his ass (n/h) real quick and then I’m gon to lunch.

    Boosie says:

    this is eskay’s essay on cristal

    cristal has been into existence for a long time, so rich white kids didnt know anything about cristal, but until jay-z came along, the kids of white parents who jay got the notion to drink it from, all of sudden became infatuted with this drink. The white kids parents have been drinking it for years and years, and didnt know one thing about, but thanks to jay-z, he made it possible for them through his raps. The white kids found new delight in this drink not knowing there were 12 bottles in their father’s wine cellular the whole time. Thus making the white kids, say “thanks dad”, you really did care for me all these years.

    ^^ you’re a moron. everything you stated there is either opinion or speculation. come with facts and then maybe we can go at it. show me a study that says “9 out of 10 rich white kids started drinking Cristal at such and such age and admit they learned it from daddy” and then we can talk…otherwise you’re talking out your ass. what qualifies you to speak on what rich white kids do anyway? you saw a documentary where some of them were holding a glass of Cris? GTFOH

  112. GET Says:

    Is Jay-Z going to Release another statement apologizing for jumping to conclusions, when he should know being a big star and all, that people get misquoted all the time.

  113. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>JZ did not poplurize cristol. He just flaunted it so much for REP STATUS. Just to say yea im big pimpin.

    The fuck he didn’t. Just like platinum jewelry and throwbacks

  114. el_feces_grande Says:

    whatever man, anyway like I said and West Coast said the company isn’t gonna go broke but are you denying that they make alot of money off of hip hop? the City of Houston ran out of the shit during All Star Weekend. The whole City! so tell me, what demographic frequents All Star Weekend?

    i BET THERE WAS ALSO A SHORTAGE ON EXPENSIVE RENTAL CARS LIEK MAYBAHCS AND LAMBOS, EXCLUSIVE DINING, SHORTAGE OF SHRIMP/STEAK MAYBE? BUT THATS HOUSTON SO MAYBE NOT….WHY? SUPPLY AND DEMAND FELLAS..DO YOU THINK THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAD AS MUCH CRISTAL STACKED AS IT DID BOTTLES OF PEPSI?..CRIS IS A LUXURY DRINK..YOU WERE AT A LUXURY EVENT..ITS OBVIOUS TO SEE WHY “A WHOLE” CITY COULD SELL OUT..I BET THE PRICE OF THE AVERAGE STEAK WENT UP BY 20 BUCKS DURING THAT WEEKEND TOO..ITS ALL ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND…SMARTEN UP NAS.

  115. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    …at least to black people he did

  116. iLL Change Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    Either way it’s too late. He said what he said and he meant it when he said it the first time. I hate those phony ass retracted statements that they issue right after somebody said some fucked up shit. It’s like slap in the face.

    ———
    “Racism still alive, they just be concealin it” – Kanye

    as long as shit like this keep comin up, then racism will never die. these white people probably plan shit like this, like “i’m gonna say something that insinuates racism, but take it back the next day.” eskay, didnt you post something a while ago where some white radio host said a black politician looked like a “dumb black bitch” or something becuase of her hair style, but then apologized the next day? Cristal need to stop actin like the top champagne business sayin shit like “Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have thier business”. i dont think people drink Cristal that much, at least not in the U.S.

    >> the fact is who ever got the tightest flow and tightest beat is what is gonna influence the majority.

    yeah, and even tho im white, i say that white dudes who dont know shit about hip hop, but just listen to the singles (see: ‘Ridin Dirty’ or ‘What You Know’) and front like they know whats up helped ruin the game. and fuck skateboarders too.

  117. Boosie Says:

    oh so now it’s not just Billionaires huh? a minute ago you specifically excluded millionaires but now when you hear real numbers you switch it up. figures.

    oh you threw in some real numbers like I didnt know that there aren’t that many billionares. Come on duke, you this aint no rookie son.

    Now the reason Why I said Middle to upper hundred millionaries, is because they all hang out in the same crowd, and the family fortune can get split or some dumb shit can happen. But even then lets just take those billionare kids. They have had the best of the best. You mean to tell me that they dont know what a measley little cristal bottle Is? You mean to tell me that their parents never drank it?

    Who does cristal market to anyway?

  118. Dem Says:

    on this cristal thing… you know, this a good look for hip hop. check out treal tv to see what cats in the yay thought about crissy way before this shit popped off.

    it’s time to move on… jay was pushin this shit back in what.. 90 something? isn’t hip hop all about keeping it moving? the ‘next’ factor? well fuck em. niggaz will still be coppin this shit unless BET or someone speaks on it. CNN says jay even poured out his personal stash… and he wasn’t even in a video (i hope that meme died when Dame left.) but yeah, niggaz need to chill with uncompensated endorsements anyway, it’s self-sonning, in a way.

  119. KonishiwaBitches Says:

    Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
    nation of thugacation Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
    oh i meant, i DRANK cris… because of jay-z and all.. but im white.

    >> “Eskay I still luv u”

    o0o0o0o
    ——-
    http://img.timeinc.net/teenpeople/images/2005/access/051205_jay_manuel180.jpg

    ———————————————————-
    lolllllll get em

  120. nation of thugacation Says:

    eskay, boosie is hard headed, peep his speeches

    BOOSIE:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search=spirit+of+truth&search_type=search_videos

  121. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
    nation of thugacation Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
    oh i meant, i DRANK cris… because of jay-z and all.. but im white.

    >> “Eskay I still luv u”

    o0o0o0o
    ——-
    http://img.timeinc.net/teenpeople/images/2005/access/051205_jay_manuel180.jpg

    ————-

    LOL LOL LO muthafuckin L

  122. eskay Says:

    >>eskay, i know you love jay, but everything in hip-hop doesnt happen becasue him, you beat down the 50 stans, but there probably isnt a post in the last two months where you dont make a reference to Hov, i know you a stan, but its becoming a bit much, its like your brainwashed sometimes

    Oh you’re right I should have just ignored this whole development, lest I look like too much of a Jay stan. gtfoh.

    if people don’t like my coverage of Jay then I suggest they go start their own blog and talk about whatever the fuck they want to talk about. just don’t link to me until you get ya numbers up. (that means you Foe)

  123. Boosie Says:

    nation of thuggaction,

    thats old, and everyone has seen that, come up with a better joke b

  124. eskay Says:

    >>oh you threw in some real numbers like I didnt know that there aren’t that many billionares. Come on duke, you this aint no rookie son

    all I know is you specifically said Billionaires and only them, until you saw the number and you switched it. you’re obviously a rookie cuz you looking like Tarver right now in this argument sonny.

  125. kween of kweens Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
    Boosie I had a good mind to delete your comment that was held in moderation, but that shit was so funny I had to let it through.

    And I don’t know, but I’d smash several of the chicks in the ‘tyrone biggums girls’ pic… (Edit: the second pic that is)

    scroll up to 1:02 to see what I’m talking about ya’ll

    ———
    wow.

  126. 456 Says:

    i was talking loosely about 300 million. but you underestimate black people’s economic power and influence. i’ve traveled the world and there is no corner of this earth that hasn’t been influenced by black culture.

  127. nation of thugacation Says:

    boosie, i just found it when i was watching this:
    http://watchmojo.com/comedy/016_crazy_preacher_man_interview.php

    i found it pretty funny

  128. el_feces_grande Says:

    ILL GIVE JAY PROPS FOR THROWBACKS, MAYBACHS AND CRIS..PLATINUM WAS A MASE TERM..JAY NEEDS TO DO SOME SHIT FOR HIS PEOPLE,,LOOKIN BACK ON SHIT NOW..HE BASICALLY USHERED US INTO THIS PHASE OF “CHECK TEH SOUNDSCAN” AND NAME BRAND BULLSHIT WE BE INTO…BIGGIE TOO…BUT BIGGIE WOULD GET SO GUTTER THAT YOU COULD PICTURE BIG BEIN BROKE EVEN WHEN HE WAS RICH…CAN YOU PICTURE JAY BEING THE SAME AGE TODAY BUT BROKE?…HE WOULDNT BE THE SAME RIGHT?..I BET BIGGIE WOULD.

  129. eskay Says:

    >>ITS OBVIOUS TO SEE WHY “A WHOLE” CITY COULD SELL OUT..I BET THE PRICE OF THE AVERAGE STEAK WENT UP BY 20 BUCKS DURING THAT WEEKEND TOO..ITS ALL ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND…SMARTEN UP NAS.

    ^ thats not the point (damn you guys suck at this) the point was that alot of hip hop fans buy Cristal.

  130. el_feces_grande Says:

    456 Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:18 pm

    i was talking loosely

    YEA YOU SEEM TO DO THAT A LOT.

  131. nation of thugacation Says:

    NBA fans you mean… dont generalize es

  132. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    I aint racist but I cant help but laugh when Nation of thug said he dresses like him lol

  133. eskay Says:

    >>JAY NEEDS TO DO SOME SHIT FOR HIS PEOPLE,,LOOKIN BACK ON SHIT NOW..HE BASICALLY USHERED US INTO THIS PHASE OF “CHECK TEH SOUNDSCAN” AND NAME BRAND BULLSHIT WE BE INTO…

    you’re just mad that Nas sweeps floors at 40/40 now, come clean

  134. nBmore Says:

    Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
    >>JZ did not poplurize cristol. He just flaunted it so much for REP STATUS. Just to say yea im big pimpin.

    The fuck he didn’t. Just like platinum jewelry and throwbacks

    DO U REALLY THINK JZ STARTED PLATINUM & THROWBACKS
    ha ha!!!!
    Yo what city u from?

  135. Dem Says:

    > you’re just mad that Nas sweeps floors at 40/40 now, come clean

    …if he’s lucky.

  136. eskay Says:

    >>NBA fans you mean… dont generalize es

    well like I said, what demographic frequents All Star Weekend? I’m sure alot of different people go but you can bet it was the negros buying up all the Cris

  137. spotrusherz Says:

    red stripe > cristal

  138. Boosie Says:

    I didnt switch the number when you said 700 billionares, thats stupid. I only broadened the number to talk about rich rich rich kids.

    But lets just say billionare kids, But even then what billionares does jay hangs out with besides bill gates. These bilionare people dont even see jay as worthy of a dog son. Now obviously jay got the notion to drink cristal from wealthy white people, but not uber rich white folks.

    SO you still mean to tell me that uber white rich kids dont know what cristal is when there is probably a drink that is more expensive than that?

  139. Dem Says:

    > DO U REALLY THINK JZ STARTED PLATINUM & THROWBACKS
    ha ha!!!!
    Yo what city u from?

    If he ain’t start it, he sure as shit co-signed the fuck out of it.

  140. D. Billz Says:

    iLL Change Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
    D. Billz Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    Either way it’s too late. He said what he said and he meant it when he said it the first time. I hate those phony ass retracted statements that they issue right after somebody said some fucked up shit. It’s like slap in the face.

    ———
    “Racism still alive, they just be concealin it” – Kanye

    as long as shit like this keep comin up, then racism will never die. these white people probably plan shit like this, like “i’m gonna say something that insinuates racism, but take it back the next day.” eskay, didnt you post something a while ago where some white radio host said a black politician looked like a “dumb black bitch” or something becuase of her hair style, but then apologized the next day? Cristal need to stop actin like the top champagne business sayin shit like “Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have thier business”. i dont think people drink Cristal that much, at least not in the U.S.

    >> the fact is who ever got the tightest flow and tightest beat is what is gonna influence the majority.

    yeah, and even tho im white, i say that white dudes who dont know shit about hip hop, but just listen to the singles (see: ‘Ridin Dirty’ or ‘What You Know’) and front like they know whats up helped ruin the game. and fuck skateboarders too

    ^ And racism will never die… period. Not because people don’t want it to. But because racism stems from ignorance and emotions. Emotions are human feelings and feelings are eternal. We just have to inform the ones that are willing to make a difference.

  141. nation of thugacation Says:

    lol eskay of course, im just messing with your head (no fuckign homo, to plug and foeskist), but you were grilling other ppl for generalizing but it makes perfect sense.

  142. D. Billz Says:

    Dem Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
    > DO U REALLY THINK JZ STARTED PLATINUM & THROWBACKS
    ha ha!!!!
    Yo what city u from?

    If he ain’t start it, he sure as shit co-signed the fuck out of it.

    ^ JZ didn’t start those trends, he made them popular. Outkast were rockin’ throwbacks in the “Rosa Parks” and “Skew It on the Bar-B” videos. Although he might’ve been the first with the plat jewelry though. I can’t confirm that.

  143. HIPHOP101 Says:

    yo off the topic, there is a skit on ghostface’s ironman album before the song wildflower, what movie is that from?

  144. GET Says:

    What is Jay going to do about his Bullshit misinformed boycott now?

  145. 456 Says:

    YEA YOU SEEM TO DO THAT A LOT.

    I know you not tryina get loose. You sound like that old loud nigga on the corner that ain’t got all his front teeth.

  146. eskay Says:

    >>I didnt switch the number when you said 700 billionares, thats stupid. I only broadened the number to talk about rich rich rich kids.

    ^ no actually you did. it’s right there in print for all to see so you can lie to yourself.

    >>But even then what billionares does jay hangs out with besides bill gates.

    ^ another incorrect statement. he took a picture with him once. as a Jay stan it would sound cool for me to say “Jay hangs out with Bill Gates” but it’s just not true. thats the difference between me and you.

    >>SO you still mean to tell me that uber white rich kids dont know what cristal is when there is probably a drink that is more expensive than that?

    get outta here with these “you mean to tell me’s” you’re not worthy of my time.

    NEXT!!!

  147. el_feces_grande Says:

    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:19 pm ^ thats not the point (damn you guys suck at this) the point was that alot of hip hop fans buy Cristal.

    IM NOT DISPUTING THAT FANS DO BUY CRIS WHAT IM DISPUTING IS THE “a lot” …iI DONT THINK ITS A “SIGNIFICANT” AMOUNT OR LOUIS WOULDNT HAVE SAID THAT SHIT..I DONT KOW LOUS..MAYBE HE IS AN IDIOT AND HE JUST TURNED HIS BACK ON 50 PERCENT OF HIS EARNINGS..MAYBE? MAYBE NOT?..ID BEG TO DIFFER THAT THEOWNER OF A 200 YR COMPANY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE S DOIN THO…ESKAY YOU LOOK AT ISP’S HIT CHARTS AND SUCH..YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR HITS ARE COMING FROM..I KNOW LOUIS KNOWS HOW MANY CASES HE SENDS TO AMERICA..IF THE MARKET WAS SO SIGNIFICANT HE D NEVER ALIENATE THAT MARKET.

  148. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    aight.. i found this article
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05224/553103.stm
    here’s some highlights:
    *Louis Roederer is in a better position than most Champagne houses. Cristal, its pricey top-of-the-line bubbly, is the drink of choice of Hollywood high-rollers. Hip-hop stars such as Sean “P. Diddy” Combs, who has mentioned Cristal in some of his songs, have made it synonymous with conspicuous consumption.

    *Today, 75 percent of Louis Roederer’s revenue comes from the higher-margin export market — mainly the U.S. and the U.K.

    *Raising Cristal’s already-large profit margin is difficult. In the U.S., a bottle of Cristal retails for $300 and can fetch upward of $700 in bars and nightclubs. “We have come to the limit of rarefying Cristal,” Mr. Rouzaud says.

    he’ll take a bigger loss than i thought.

  149. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>DO U REALLY THINK JZ STARTED PLATINUM & THROWBACKS
    ha ha!!!!
    Yo what city u from?

    You clown, I’m talking about to black people. Niggas wasn’t rockin throwbacks till the “Girls Girls” video B. Pac and Biggie were wearing gold, dunn dunn.

  150. iLL Change Says:

    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    >>JAY NEEDS TO DO SOME SHIT FOR HIS PEOPLE,,LOOKIN BACK ON SHIT NOW..HE BASICALLY USHERED US INTO THIS PHASE OF “CHECK TEH SOUNDSCAN” AND NAME BRAND BULLSHIT WE BE INTO…

    you’re just mad that Nas sweeps floors at 40/40 now, come clean

    fuck you, go listen to The Life and Times

  151. eskay Says:

    >>ID BEG TO DIFFER THAT THEOWNER OF A 200 YR COMPANY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE S DOIN THO…

    I feel you but it couldve slipped out or something. I don’t know why he would ever say it either. I called it the dumbest move of 2006 in the original post.

  152. Kheri Wes Says:

    who the fuck pays 300 for cris retail, they must be idiots i get it for no more than 150

  153. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    and I’m in Detroit beeyotch.

  154. Boosie Says:

    But you cant face the fact of the real question eskay,

    1. where did jay get the idea that cristal is the brand to be drinking?

    2. who does cristal market too?

    3. You mean to tell me that uber rich white people know the best of everything except for alcohol?

    see now you are getting caught up into hyperbole and sentences and are not addressing from the real questions and problems. You are squibbling like a squirrel and I’m shaking you down right now.

    Ok lets just say this. Paris hilton doesnt know about the NAME cristal, but are you saying she hasnt drank a more expensive drink?

  155. Dem Says:

    > JZ didn’t start those trends, he made them popular. Outkast were rockin’ throwbacks in the “Rosa Parks” and “Skew It on the Bar-B” videos. Although he might’ve been the first with the plat jewelry though. I can’t confirm that.

    yeah, i was speaking more about plat and the bling lifestyle in general… and helped make popular = co-sign.

    but really, if you wanna take a back further, BIG was on that shit before Jay… and if you believe Pac, BIG swag jacked him, ie from Party and Bullshit to Big Poppa.

  156. nBmore Says:

    JZ’S SUCKA GAME: (for all jz lovers)
    JZ calls for a 1 tyme concert for (reasonable doubt fans)
    Later that week they say tickets will be around 150
    They go on sale they report the tickets were sold out
    Rumor has it that there were sold in less then 5 mins
    (FACT) a corporate company purchasd these tickets.
    Now lets look back on this……………

    He calls for a concert for loyal fans.
    But lets a corporate company buyout the tickets. hmmmmm
    Why wouldnt he say something like 4 a head. hmmmm
    UNLESS he is hustling his loyal fans to JACK UP THE PRICE!!!!
    Look between the lines.
    Now he wants to take a stand against CRISTOL.
    I bet he is still drinking CRISTOL….

  157. el_feces_grande Says:

    @EVERYONE
    DO YALL THINK THAT WHITE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE RICH THAN RACIST? ..ITS MOST OF YOUS VIEWS HERE THAT NIGGAS SPEND BILLIONS ON CRIS..SO THAT BEING THAT, DOES LOUIS CRISTAL CARE MORE ABOUT BEING A RACIST? THAN HE DOES ABOUT BEING RICH?….LIKE DID HE SAY ..FUCK THESE BILLIONS..I GOT SOME SHIT TO SAY.

  158. eskay Says:

    Thank you West Coast. If hip hop doesn’t account for much of it’s sales, why mention them in the article? and who the fuck else in the U.S. is copping that much of the shit?

    smh @ el feces “they drink this shit for breafast in europe”

    lmfao

  159. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    Pac and Biggie were wearing gold, dunn dunn.

    >>>and shiney versachi shirts

  160. dat_grill Says:

    yea yea w/e

  161. HIPHOP101 Says:

    yo off the topic, there is a skit on ghostface’s ironman album before the song wildflower, what movie is that from?

  162. 456 Says:

    el_feces_grande Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:19 pm ^ thats not the point (damn you guys suck at this) the point was that alot of hip hop fans buy Cristal.

    IM NOT DISPUTING THAT FANS DO BUY CRIS WHAT IM DISPUTING IS THE “a lot” …iI DONT THINK ITS A “SIGNIFICANT” AMOUNT OR LOUIS WOULDNT HAVE SAID THAT SHIT..I DONT KOW LOUS..MAYBE HE IS AN IDIOT AND HE JUST TURNED HIS BACK ON 50 PERCENT OF HIS EARNINGS..MAYBE? MAYBE NOT?..ID BEG TO DIFFER THAT THEOWNER OF A 200 YR COMPANY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE S DOIN THO…ESKAY YOU LOOK AT ISP’S HIT CHARTS AND SUCH..YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR HITS ARE COMING FROM..I KNOW LOUIS KNOWS HOW MANY CASES HE SENDS TO AMERICA..IF THE MARKET WAS SO SIGNIFICANT HE D NEVER ALIENATE THAT MARKET.

    How you know so much about ‘Louis’? You and Louis be running to the liquor spot after crumpets?

  163. eskay Says:

    1. where did jay get the idea that cristal is the brand to be drinking? white people

    2. who does cristal market too? I’ve never seen a cristal ad in my life so I couldnt tell you. but they’re the type of brand that doesn’t really have to spend alot on marketing

    3. You mean to tell me that uber rich white people know the best of everything except for alcohol? I assume you meant don’t know the best, and no I’m not saying that

    there I answered your questions now what’s your point?

  164. eskay Says:

    Boosie give it up, your theory that rich kids got it from their parents is absurd. all kids copy shit from celebrities no matter how rich they are.

    just admit, I won and you lost

  165. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    Man I can’t WAIT till somebody starts talking about something i really care about, this nigga Eskay think he’s invincible on the argument tip. I’ll have you for lunch, kiddo (no eskay)

  166. Boosie Says:

    Eskay I give it to you, Paris hilton dumbed down to drink measley expensive black koolaid.

    Your’re right she started drinking that cheap ass shit cristal when jay introduced it. She just wanted to be cool and be in with the rappers.

    She probably just started drinking at the age of 21, and never knew how to get alcohol before that.

    so you’re right even though her father and other rich folks around drank cristal and wayyyyyy more expensive alcohol than that, she didnt know a darn thing about it.

    The other Billionare trustfund babies, they dont know what top of the line alcohol is, and therefore it took a nigger boy to sing it in a song, and now they know, even though their father told them about it.

    so eskay props to you, you are right.

  167. el_feces_grande Says:

    > JZ didn’t start those trends, he made them popular. Outkast were rockin’ throwbacks in the “Rosa Parks” and “Skew It on the Bar-B” videos. Although he might’ve been the first with the plat jewelry though. I can’t confirm that.

    YEA WELL THATS WHAT WERE TALKIN ABOUT HERE…POPULARITY..DID JAYZ MAKE CRISTAL?..

  168. kween of kweens Says:

    4 reel….im not legal enuff to drink cristal…
    still on that snapple n kool-aid

  169. WestCoast_GetsDown Says:

    HIPHOP101 Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
    yo off the topic, there is a skit on ghostface’s ironman album before the song wildflower, what movie is that from?

    J.D.’s Revenge

  170. eskay Says:

    >>this nigga Eskay think he’s invincible on the argument tip. I’ll have you for lunch, kiddo (no eskay)

    yeah nigga, you been mighty quiet though…

  171. HIPHOP101 Says:

    Boosie

    your right too

  172. el_feces_grande Says:

    smh @ el feces “they drink this shit for breafast in europe”

    YOU LAUGHED CAUSE?..ITS FACT OR FICTION? OR FUNNY?

  173. nation of thugacation Says:

    eskay go for lunch

    this shit is pretty funny:

    http://watchmojo.com/comedy/016_crazy_preacher_man_interview.php

  174. eskay Says:

    Boosie, I’ll just repeat my last comment:

    “Boosie give it up, your theory that rich kids got it from their parents is absurd. all kids copy shit from celebrities no matter how rich they are.”

    you really are awful at this shit though man. lemme put what your saying out there and we’ll see what people think:

    Hey everybody, Boosie says:

    “kids parent’s have more influence over them than celebrities”

    agree or disagree?

  175. eskay Says:

    >>YOU LAUGHED CAUSE?..ITS FACT OR FICTION? OR FUNNY?

    fiction and funny

  176. eskay Says:

    >>eskay go for lunch

    thanks. be right back.

  177. Boosie Says:

    Now that you answered my question, thanks But I have some follow ups.

    1. okay you say that jay started drinking cristal from white people, now what kind of white people you think he got it from?

    2. When he started drinking it, do you think it was millionare types or billionare types, or both or one more than the other?

    3. Now what age demographic do you think he saw drinking this cristal?

    4. do you think these people had kids?

    5. What year do you think jay started drinking cristal?

  178. kween of kweens Says:

    “kids parent’s have more influence over them than celebrities”

    agree or disagree?

    hmmm…..disagree to a certain extent

  179. kween of kweens Says:

    nations says
    this shit is pretty funny:

    http://watchmojo.com/comedy/016_crazy_preacher_man_interview.php

    —-
    lmfao….who the fukk is that?

  180. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    >>yeah nigga, you been mighty quiet though…

    Cuz if you learned to read, I said that if something came up on here that I really cared about I’d be all in like two hands in pornstar pussy. But talkin about Cristal (some shit I’ve never drank), I couldn’t give 3 fux about.

  181. Engineer Says:

    “What can we do? WE can’t forbid people frm buying it”

    Doesn’t that sound like if they could do something, they would?

    I say fuck it! Go ahead with the boycott. WE don’t need to drink that shit, it goes right to your head anyway.

  182. Boosie Says:

    Boosie, I’ll just repeat my last comment:

    “Boosie give it up, your theory that rich kids got it from their parents is absurd. all kids copy shit from celebrities no matter how rich they are.”

    you really are awful at this shit though man. lemme put what your saying out there and we’ll see what people think:

    Hey everybody, Boosie says:

    “kids parent’s have more influence over them than celebrities”

    agree or disagree?

    See thats where you are wrong I dont think that at all. You are saying that Paris hilton took her first sip of alcohol because jay-z said so.

    If paris hilton was able to afford jay-z’s house with one of her diamond earrings, how is it that she never drank cristal? I’ll agree that she probably never drank hennessy or crown royal, before at rapper stated but cristal?

    1. If cristal is one of the top of the line brands, you mean to tell me that uber rich kids never drank it?

    2. How is it that uber rich kids are able to get some of the best weed on the planet, and even some of the best herione, but not able to know about some of the best alcohol?

  183. iLL Change Says:

    >> you’re just mad that Nas sweeps floors at 40/40 now, come clean

    if NaS sweep floors, then what does the rest of the State Prop crew do? (Young Gunz, Peedi, Omilio & Sparks). they was probably the ones servin Cristal & takin orders

  184. nation of thugacation Says:

    >> lmfao….who the fukk is that?
    ionno but the site is PURE jokes

  185. Fred Kruger AKA Plug Industries Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
    >>eskay go for lunch

    thanks. be right back.
    ——
    Mark, you could have updated the site cefore you left

    *in method mans how high voice*

    “you guys are fuckin borin, I’m outta here”

  186. D. Billz Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
    Boosie, I’ll just repeat my last comment:

    “Boosie give it up, your theory that rich kids got it from their parents is absurd. all kids copy shit from celebrities no matter how rich they are.”

    you really are awful at this shit though man. lemme put what your saying out there and we’ll see what people think:

    Hey everybody, Boosie says:

    “kids parent’s have more influence over them than celebrities”

    agree or disagree?

    ^ Totally disagree. If that was the case we wouldn’t have little Billy in the middle of surburbia with du-rags on and listening to Tupac songs. (see: dead prez feat. Jay-Z “Hell Yeah” (Remix) ). Most kids between the ages of 13 – 21 emulate whatever is “poppin” right now. Why do you think so many kids on the Northeast coast are following suit with this gang shit? Because Dirty Bum, Pink Bunny, and Big Kid (Dipset) promote it every chance they get. Dawg, why do you think big corporations spend millions of dollars for marketing, ads, and campaigns? I bet I could put about 13 logos up on here and you could identify all of them (I know I could). Because we’ve been programmed (read: brainwashed) since birth to manifest these images in our brain. In a perfect world, yeah, parents would have a major influence on our youth. But unfortunately, that’s not the case.

  187. D. Billz Says:

    iLL Change Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
    >> you’re just mad that Nas sweeps floors at 40/40 now, come clean

    if NaS sweep floors, then what does the rest of the State Prop crew do? (Young Gunz, Peedi, Omilio & Sparks). they was probably the ones servin Cristal & takin orders

    ^ I will not condone the mockery of Nas and SP in my presence. That is all. 8-)

  188. Dem Says:

    > if NaS sweep floors, then what does the rest of the State Prop crew do? (Young Gunz, Peedi, Omilio & Sparks). they was probably the ones servin Cristal & takin orders

    don’t forget about bleek…

    “even if i die he’s in my will… (somewhere)”

  189. iLL Change Says:

    yo Billz, new Flush joint, click my name, its not as good as the first, but he’s still str8.

    that dude Heron is nice (no homo), but he never gonna blow up wit a name like that

  190. eskay Says:

    *for the record Nas is one of the best ever* (but he still brings Jay his slippers)

    Boosie:

    *NEWSFLASH*

    The Hilton Family = not as rich as you think. they’re barely worth a Bil. And yes I think she drinks it cuz of rappers not neccesarily Jay but still, definitely rappers over her pops.

  191. Jamz Says:

    Parents have control when they are whippin yo azz wit a belt and the celebs control kids more when they watch TV and Movies!

  192. Dem Says:

    > that dude Heron is nice…

    Nah. A Heron is a type of bird. No one will ever make the connection.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron

  193. 911 Says:

    The real question is whether or not the boycott will really catch on……niggas swear their leaders and alpha dogs and all that shit…..but when it come to outside of the box……they be on some that’s between them……alot of lames I tell u….1

  194. Jamz Says:

    Eskay, a billion is a lot of money playa!

  195. eskay Says:

    Boosie Says:

    Now that you answered my question, thanks But I have some follow ups.

    1. okay you say that jay started drinking cristal from white people, now what kind of white people you think he got it from? now that I think about it, he probably got it from some OG dudes he was around since he mentioned it on RD and he wasn’t chilling with no millionaires back then (at least not white ones)

    2. When he started drinking it, do you think it was millionare types or billionare types, or both or one more than the other? see answer to # 1

    3. Now what age demographic do you think he saw drinking this cristal? again see # 1

    4. do you think these people had kids? again….scroll up

    5. What year do you think jay started drinking cristal? you know where to look

  196. Boosie Says:

    So when paris hiltion first heard the word cristal, she went and got some because jay said so.

    Are you speaking for just paris hilton, or are you saying this is how all these rich white kids think?

    So paris hilton never had a top of the line drink before jay-z said anything right?

  197. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay, a billion is a lot of money playa!’

    I know homey, but Boosie is acting like the Hiltons got Bill Gates Warren Bufffet dough or something.

  198. kween of kweens Says:

    Most kids between the ages of 13 – 21 emulate whatever is “poppin” right now. Why do you think so many kids on the Northeast coast are following suit with this gang shit? Because Dirty Bum, Pink Bunny, and Big Kid (Dipset) promote it every chance they get.
    —–
    M0ST.

  199. iLL Change Says:

    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 3:07 pm

    *for the record Nas is one of the best ever* (but he still brings Jay his slippers)

    ^ i think you meant Jeezy brings him his chancletas. nice try, but NaS is consistent and actually makes good songs after his first CD. if there was an Illmatic/It Was Written show, i think the concert hall would collapse.

    NaS is gonna move more records than any other release in the same month as his. “Hip Hop Is Dead” is gonna be the best release of 2006.

  200. eskay Says:

    >>So when paris hiltion first heard the word cristal, she went and got some because jay said so.

    didnt say that, and you know thats not what I mean don’t play yourself

    >>Are you speaking for just paris hilton, or are you saying this is how all these rich white kids think?

    all of ‘em

    >>So paris hilton never had a top of the line drink before jay-z said anything right?

    didnt say that either.

    (hey, have you noticed that almost nobody in here agrees with you? just sayin…)

  201. Jamz Says:

    I don’t know who he saw or when Jay Z started drinking Cristal, but white folks were drinking that overpriced shyt first! The only person that knows Jay’s history on this matter is Jay!

  202. eskay Says:

    >>but NaS is consistent

    *falls out of chair*

    pardon me I had to laugh at that…

    …oh boy that was a good one…wow

  203. kween of kweens Says:

    ^ i think you meant Jeezy brings him his chancletas

    lol.you know what chancletas are?
    i know by the ever present mark they left on the back of my head.

  204. 456 Says:

    jay probably got cristal from other older drug dealers that been havin money and who in turn got from their suppliers who were more than likely caribbean and/or south american.

  205. Boosie Says:

    ok good good,

    1. Now where do you think these supposed o.g. dudes got their knowledge from about cristal.

    2. Sow when jay drank the cristal, do you think he thought it was a hood drink. He was 26 when reasonable doubt came out so do you think he was naive to believe that it was some o.g. drink?

    3. So since jay now is advertising for Hp, white people are going to run out and get one too right? I mean they probably never even heard of it, or dont even have a computer.

    4. Now jay mentions a g4 jet. All the rich white kids are going to want to ride in one now. I mean a lot of rich white kids never rode in their parents jet right?

    5. Now jay mentions a blackberry or blueberry. White kids never really heard of that till he mentioned that right?

  206. Jamz Says:

    Nas and Jay have had musical missteps during their careers! Nobody is perfect!

  207. iLL Change Says:

    eskay Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 3:17 pm

    >>but NaS is consistent

    *falls out of chair*

    pardon me I had to laugh at that…

    …oh boy that was a good one…wow

    next time Jay makes “Sekou’s Story” let me know. next time he makes “Pop Rap 2007″ or whatever, make a post.

  208. D. Billz Says:

    *BREAKING NEWS*

    Pardon this interruption, but nBmore (aka Posta Verse) actually made a logical and rational statement. This was said in the Daily Headlines 6-16-06:

    nBmore Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
    Fat joe makes good singles just not good albums. But do we expect him to when he doesnt have big pun as a lyricist coach

  209. eskay Says:

    iLL Change, no lie and I’m not even exagerating, Street’s Disciple had like 4 good songs. between two discs. that guy has gone whole 2 year periods without making anything extraordinary. Jay held you down 6 summers.

    Black Album > Streets Disciple

  210. eskay Says:

    congrats nBmore your starting to make a little bit of sense.

  211. Dem Says:

    > Jay held you down 6 summers.

    damn, where’s the love?

  212. 456 Says:

    oh by the way:

    el_feces_grande Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
    456 ..ID MAKE A BET WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE US DOESNT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR 50 % OR CRISTALS SALES..HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO EUROPE?

    WestCoast_GetsDown Says:
    aight.. i found this article
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05224/553103.stm
    here’s some highlights:

    *Today, 75 percent of Louis Roederer’s revenue comes from the higher-margin export market — mainly the U.S. and the U.K.

  213. Boosie Says:

    >>Are you speaking for just paris hilton, or are you saying this is how all these rich white kids think?

    all of ‘em

    So eskay, all rich white kids listen to jay-z?
    surely there is a least one person who doesnt listen to rap?

    There aren’t rich white people who dont have cristal in their house right?

    So a rich white kid has never drank cristal before jay-z said it right?

  214. eskay Says:

    Boosie, you’re trying to save your argument by making stupid irrelevant comparisons. nobody is saying Jay is responsible for everything cool in the world.

    you lost

    *collects GOAT Arguer plaque*

  215. D. Billz Says:

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
    ok good good,

    1. Now where do you think these supposed o.g. dudes got their knowledge from about cristal.

    2. Sow when jay drank the cristal, do you think he thought it was a hood drink. He was 26 when reasonable doubt came out so do you think he was naive to believe that it was some o.g. drink?

    3. So since jay now is advertising for Hp, white people are going to run out and get one too right? I mean they probably never even heard of it, or dont even have a computer.

    4. Now jay mentions a g4 jet. All the rich white kids are going to want to ride in one now. I mean a lot of rich white kids never rode in their parents jet right?

    5. Now jay mentions a blackberry or blueberry. White kids never really heard of that till he mentioned that right?

    ^ We didn’t say white kids didn’t have access or know about any of the aforementioned products. What we’re saying is that Jay made it popular to masses i.e. percentage wise. That means, know matter how many uber rich white kids were doing it before Jay, EVEN MORE were doing it after him. Case in point.

    *catches the oop from Es and posterizes Boosie*

  216. eskay Says:

    *high fives Billz*

  217. D. Billz Says:

    With that being said, chow time maggots.

    *hangs Out To Lunch sign on Nahright banner*

  218. el_feces_grande Says:

    http://www.furansunocafe.com/produits.php?no=435&lg=en&base=salon_de_the

  219. D. Billz Says:

    *gives Es dapz on the way out*

  220. eskay Says:

    *yaps Boosie like Stackhouse did to Shaq last night*

  221. el_feces_grande Says:

    ^^^ HAHAHA

    YO 456 NOW U ON YOUR JOB ..LEMMI READ

  222. Dem Says:

    > the jay vs ‘rents argument

    what’s so hard to grasp about the fact that when a celeb goes on tv and makes a product look cool, people (rich, poor w/e) want it?

  223. eskay Says:

    oh you ain’t know you got ethered already feces? read up homey

  224. iLL Change Says:

    Black Album = terrible beats

    Streets Disciple = weak, i’ll give you that (Just A Moment, Disciple, Sekou Story, Rest Of My Life, You Know My Style, Thief’s Theme, Bridging The Gap & Suicide Bounce were hot)

    so Jay is good cause he drops a good single during the summer? NaS makes that shit to make ‘em feel shit. “Who’s the best, Pac, NaS & Big”

    Blueprint 2 = 5 good songs (Hovi Baby, Excuse Me Miss, Meet The Parents, Some How Some Way & Blueprint 2 were good)

  225. DEEZ NUTS Says:

    I STILL SAY MUTHAFUCK!!! CRISTAL. LIKE ESKAY SAID, AFTER ALL THE FREE ADVERTISEMENT FROM THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY THEY SHOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER ATTITUDE TOWARDS US. NOW WE MUST SAY WHAT HAS CRISTAL DONE FOR US? NOTHING, SO MUTHAFUCK THEM AND WHOEVER ELSE THAT DOESN’T RESPECTFULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PATRONS. IF WE KEEP THE BOYCOTT ALIVE THAT SHIT WILL BE IN CONVENIENCE STORES RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUDWEISER.

  226. Jamz Says:

    I didn’t think Jay’s “In My Lifetime Vol. 1″ and “The Blueprint 2″ were great albums though! Dope cuts on both, but plenty of forgettable ones too!

  227. Boosie Says:

    *catches the oop from Es and posterizes Boosie*

    ^ We didn’t say white kids didn’t have access or know about any of the aforementioned products. What we’re saying is that Jay made it popular to masses i.e. percentage wise. That means, know matter how many uber rich white kids were doing it before Jay, EVEN MORE were doing it after him. Case in point.

    See dbillz, I’m a have to play referee and call you for goal tending son,
    I never made the point that jay-z didnt have influence, All I said was how can eskay say people like Paris hilton or any other rich white kid not know about cristal growing up, when their parents popped it off every week at the local art gallery.

    Sure jay-z has brought it to the masses and even to rich white kids, but before jay came around are you telling me that rich white kids didnt know about Cristal?

    *blows whistle*
    *calls goaltending on # 2-4*
    *dbillz now comitts 2nd turnover for the game in one minute*
    *coach calls him back to the bench*
    *wont see playing time till 8 games later*

  228. Boosie Says:

    *eskay and dbillz are now riding the pine, giving each other high fives on the bench*

    *boosie=d.wade*

    *eskay and dbillz wont be able to guard him anymore in the series*

    *hence they’re on the bench* — right next to *carlos arroyo, and jud bucheler*

  229. iLL Change Says:

    “I touch you then buck you
    Heats be spittin’
    La-zar, AR fifteen, doors come down
    Jaws is broke, your whole crew is coffin bound
    Your hoe, your man, lieutenant, your boss get found” ….

    “Now tell me who was the true thugs in videos first?
    Who had the projects behind us, who bit it the worst?”

    -NaS

  230. eskay Says:

    *isn’t having the Nas vs Jay argument today*

    Boosie just give it up…you’re fucking stubborness is exhausting. you’re worse than me.

  231. nBmore Says:

    U miss my other statment earlier
    BUT THANK U ON THE HONOR!!!!!

  232. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    Oh my goodness, I might have to start saying “no Carl Lewis” from now on…

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jamJ4-C_TME&search=carl%20lewis

  233. nBmore Says:

    nBmore Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
    JZ’S SUCKA GAME: (for all jz lovers)
    JZ calls for a 1 tyme concert for (reasonable doubt fans)
    Later that week they say tickets will be around 150
    They go on sale they report the tickets were sold out
    Rumor has it that there were sold in less then 5 mins
    (FACT) a corporate company purchasd these tickets.
    Now lets look back on this……………

    He calls for a concert for loyal fans.
    But lets a corporate company buyout the tickets. hmmmmm
    Why wouldnt he say something like 4 a head. hmmmm
    UNLESS he is hustling his loyal fans to JACK UP THE PRICE!!!!
    Look between the lines.
    Now he wants to take a stand against CRISTOL.
    I bet he is still drinking CRISTOL….

  234. Boosie Says:

    *eskay gives up*

    boosie=MJ

    *gets out the brooms*
    *pops the Cris*
    *celebrates the victory*

  235. el_feces_grande Says:

    Mr. Rouzaud says one of the owners of the parcel up for sale has a family member who works for LVMH. “He gave my price to LVMH. They bid higher,” he explained with a shrug

    NOTICE HOW HE EXPLAINED WITH A SHRUG?…NOW IM GETTIN A BIGGER PICTURE OF LOUS..HE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MUCH..HAHA..

    456 IM NOT ONE TO NIT PICK BUT THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SALES AND PROFIT MARGIN..I WILL SAY OK..I SEE YOUR POINT BUT ONE COULD ALSO ARGUE THAT SELLING 100 BOTTLES IN FRANCE FOR 30 BUCKS AND SELLIN 100 BOTTLES IN US FOR 300..WILL LEAD TO A HIGHER REVENUE/PROFIT MARGIN IN US ,..BUT THAT STILL REFLECTS THE SAME AMOUNT OF SALES (100)…BUT LIKE I SAID..FUCK IT..ITS ALL GOOD.

  236. Rich White Kid Says:

    Yeah, my pops had Crissy by the case in cellar all the time when I was younger, but honestly, I never thought it was off the meat hook to drink it until the God laced my Kenneth Coles. Mosque!

  237. eskay Says:

    eskay never gives up.

    >>how can eskay say people like Paris hilton or any other rich white kid not know about cristal growing up, when their parents popped it off every week at the local art gallery.

    ^that’s the worst argument I’ve ever heard.

    nobody said they didn’t know about it, although it’s entirely possible because:

    17 year old rich girls don’t go to the art gallery with daddy. and even if they did, daddy doesn’t pass them the Cris.

    >>Sure jay-z has brought it to the masses and even to rich white kids, but before jay came around are you telling me that rich white kids didnt know about Cristal?

    homey, half of the kids drinking the shit today were in grade school when Jay dropped RD, so yes I’m telling you that.

  238. Boosie Says:

    The Bottom line: rappers recite what which white folks had like twenty years ago, then new age type niggas thinks its something new.

  239. eskay Says:

    LMFAO @ “Mosque!”

  240. nBmore Says:

    IS THIS HOW U TREAT LOYAL FANS BY JACKIN THE PRICE.
    Not once but twice in less then 1 yr.
    This would be jz 2nd concert in less then 1 yr
    And JZ LOVERS still fall 4 the okydok

  241. eskay Says:

    bottom line:

    eskay wins again

    *holds hands over head*

    Oh no please stop stop everybody you’re far too kind…

  242. 911 Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
    *isn’t having the Nas vs Jay argument today*
    I so want to hear it though……*just to stir the pot*…..who’s reallly better Nas or Jay……Pac or Big….endless arguement…….yes sir……..1

  243. Jamz Says:

    “Ain’t no best….” Nas quoted it!

  244. Boosie Says:

    homey, half of the kids drinking the shit today were in grade school when Jay dropped RD, so yes I’m telling you that.

    No thats where you got me wrong, I’m saying when uber rich white kids where 16-21 before 1996, they didnt know about cristal and other top brands of alcohol?

    So how do uber rich white people eventually find out about cristal? Do they have a ritual? What sambo nigger introduced them to cristal before they had jay introduced cristal to this generation?

  245. 456 Says:

    iLL Change Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
    Black Album = terrible beats

    Streets Disciple = weak, i’ll give you that (Just A Moment, Disciple, Sekou Story, Rest Of My Life, You Know My Style, Thief’s Theme, Bridging The Gap & Suicide Bounce were hot)

    ^that’s alot to concede. I think God’s Son was better though.

    so Jay is good cause he drops a good single during the summer? NaS makes that shit to make ‘em feel shit. “Who’s the best, Pac, NaS & Big”

    ^Jay is good because he is consistently good. You could listen to the entire Reasonable Doubt, Vol. 1 (except for Money Aint A Thing), Vol. 2, Blueprint. He always on his job-o.

  246. nBmore Says:

    The oldest hustle in the book JZ is pulling
    Its like buying white-tees for cheap an driving back to the hood for profit.
    And people find this ok.
    I would be alittle offended if the person i was supporting had no loyalty on the other end.

  247. Boosie Says:

    17 year old rich girls don’t go to the art gallery with daddy. and even if they did, daddy doesn’t pass them the Cris.

    Uber Rich people dont go to the art gallery? Rich people dont know anything about expensive art? They must not have pieces that cost more than ja rule’s house right?

    What about when daddy is not there? 17 yrold uber rich white girls dont drink do they?

  248. eskay Says:

    >>I’m saying when uber rich white kids where 16-21 before 1996, they didnt know about cristal and other top brands of alcohol?

    this is like playing tennis with a blind man:

    they might have known about it but they didn’t drink it cuz it wasn’t popular.

  249. eskay Says:

    Boosie you’re a moron. How do you get this:

    Uber Rich people dont go to the art gallery? Rich people dont know anything about expensive art? They must not have pieces that cost more than ja rule’s house right?

    from this:

    17 year old rich girls don’t go to the art gallery with daddy. and even if they did, daddy doesn’t pass them the Cris.

  250. Boosie Says:

    *eskay celebrates victory for second place*

    *boosie gives him the bottle of cris, says he doesnt want it*

    *eskay drinks the cris, says a prayer to jay-z*

    *recites in his model prayer to jay-z, that he will never forsake cristal*

  251. eskay Says:

    good looking 456 for handling my light work

  252. Boosie Says:

    they might have known about it but they didn’t drink it cuz it wasn’t popular.

    So you saying in all of Cristal’s years not more than a 1,000 18yr olds never drank cristal?

  253. Jamz Says:

    NBmore – I agree with u! Jay is a smart businessman! He got all them katz to stop wearing jersey and switch to button ups, then the next week..Roc-a-wear drops a new line of button ups! Coincidence? Hell naw! He realizes the power of hiphop and takes advantage of it!

    Eskay – U sure know a lot about what rich white folks be doing to be a working class brotha from NY? Don’t let me find out you’ze an undacova white boy suburbanite?

  254. iLL Change Says:

    Vol. 2 was cool, but i think it had too many good tracks, and not enough great/classic tracks.

    “Shit, I led a life you could write a book on
    Sex, murder and mayhem, romance for the streets
    Man, and I tell ya, it would be the best seller” – Jay

    that last line killed me. how wack was that, really tho?

    *not getting into Jay vs. NaS beef either, but refuses to let Mrs. Carter say NaS sweeps floors*

  255. eskay Says:

    >>So you saying in all of Cristal’s years not more than a 1,000 18yr olds never drank cristal?

    Yeah that’s what I’m saying.

    No you fucking moron, did you hear me say that? What I’m saying is, whatever I said, not what you take it and twist it into.

  256. eskay Says:

    >>*not getting into Jay vs. NaS beef either, but refuses to let Mrs. Carter say NaS sweeps floors*

    I’d rather be called Ms. Carter than Ms. Jones, at least Ms Carter rides in the maybach while Ms. Jones bunks on Jungle’s floor in QB.

  257. iLL Change Says:

    lol at the Jay pic on the post. those shades are bigger than his whole face

  258. iLL Change Says:

    ^ not dissing Jay btw

    >> I’d rather be called Ms. Carter than Ms. Jones, at least Ms Carter rides in the maybach while Ms. Jones bunks on Jungle’s floor in QB.

    i just seen Kelis in the Ferrari in her video.

    what happened to the New New York Remix ?
    what happened to Nah Right Skits?

  259. nBmore Says:

    JZ’S TRACK RECORD:

    1.Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt (1996)-HOT
    2.Jay-Z – In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 (1997)-FAIR
    3.Jay-Z – Vol. 2… Hard Knock Life (1998)-WACK
    4.Jay-Z – Vol. 3… Life and Times of S. Carter (1999)-FAIR
    5.Jay-Z – The Dynasty Roc La Familia (2000)-WACK
    6.Jay-Z – The Blueprint (2001)-GOOD
    7.Jay-Z & R. Kelly – The Best of Both Worlds (2002)-WACK
    8.The Blueprint 2: The Gift & the Curse (Disc One) (2002)-FAIR
    The Blueprint 2: The Gift & the Curse (Disc Two) (2002)-FAIR
    9.Jay-Z – The Black Album (Nov. 2003)-GOOD
    10.Jay-Z & R. Kelly – Unfinished Business (2004)-WACK

    lets do the math:
    1. HOT: 1
    2. GOOD: 2
    3. FAIR: 4
    4. WACK: 3

  260. Boosie Says:

    I just want to know at what age do uber rich white people start knowing about cristal,

    If cristal is still in business and was doing good before 1996, what age demographic of whites were drinking it?

    What age does one know when to drink cristal, to support the company?

    Did it take a black guy to help rich whites further support an alchohol company?

  261. Kheri Wes Says:

    >>*not getting into Jay vs. NaS beef either, but refuses to let Mrs. Carter say NaS sweeps floors*

    I’d rather be called Ms. Carter than Ms. Jones, at least Ms Carter rides in the maybach while Ms. Jones bunks on Jungle’s floor in QB.

    Both of them are bitches, very questionable^^^^^^

  262. 456 Says:

    Yeah them shades be killing me.

  263. eskay Says:

    @ Boosie:

    *yawn*

    @ Keri Wes

    How’s that blog you’re starting coming along?

  264. Dem Says:

    > Both of them are bitches, very questionable^^^^^

    rly doe.

    and um… grillz on hoe != sexy.

    everytime i see that vid, i’m like yo.. it didn’t work for erikah and it doesn’t work for you.

  265. 456 Says:

    Boosie: lost in his argument. His argumate, feces: ethered. Nbmore=the same.

  266. Kheri Wes Says:

    I’m waiting on you to comment i sent you an invite

  267. 456 Says:

    *nbmore=the same as always.

  268. Boosie Says:

    el feces and his boys drinking some fake crystal- http://uplode.us/up/elfecesandhisboys.jpg

    eskay-drinking some cristal http://uplode.us/up/eskaycristal_2.jpg

    what eskay and tyrone do in their spare time – http://uplode.us/up/eskaydoesinsparetime.jpg

    tyrone drinking cristal- http://uplode.us/up/tyronecristal.jpg

  269. eskay Says:

    >>I’m waiting on you to comment i sent you an invite

    great, I can’t wait to pick out a random entry that mentions a rapper and tell you how your “brainwashed” because you posted about them.

    smh

  270. Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    *peeks back in*

    Yall niggas still talkin about Cristal?

    Tupac sample —> “H’ole bustas…”

    *logs off*

  271. Boosie Says:

    456,

    tell me how I lost? are you just another dick rider? Please explain how I lost, and if I lost, what was I suppose to get if I won?

    what did I lose?

  272. Boosie Says:

    eksay moderate my pictures please, thanks

  273. eskay Says:

    you lost bad Boosie. acceptance is the first step to recovery

  274. eskay Says:

    >>eksay moderate my pictures please, thanks

    uh oh

  275. Boosie Says:

    eskay,

    are you just saying I lost cause you have no facts, or just claiming it cause it makes you feel better.

    so did you always shout “I win” like the kid in the big wheel commercials?

    So If I lost, tell me how?

  276. Kheri Wes Says:

    >>I’m waiting on you to comment i sent you an invite

    great, I can’t wait to pick out a random entry that mentions a rapper and tell you how your “brainwashed” because you posted about them.

    smh

    real talk you wernt getting personal about that i was just taking shot at your armor.

    But me not really a stan of anybody in particular like all GOOD music

  277. eskay Says:

    @ Lil Boosie

    the only person who agreed with you got ethered, so you tell me how you lost.

  278. eskay Says:

    >>real talk you wernt getting personal about that i was just taking shot at your armor.

    it’s all good, but understand that I’m a Jay fan. I post shit about everybody though so it’s not like this site is all Jay all the time.

  279. Boosie Says:

    so are we basing this on a popularity poll?

    you said you guaranteed paris hilton drank cristal, cause of jay-z.

    I said, not exactly true and here’s why…..

    But you own this site, so who is not going to be on your side eskay. They all think your dick is cristal and so they want to taste your hot sauce.

    So how can you say other people when they all worship you?

  280. Dem Says:

    yeah. i smell a dead horse, can we move on? the comment page on the post before this one is a bit anemic..

  281. Boosie Says:

    so lets just say you won, even though you didnt.

    —If you say you win, that means you win by default everytime, since this is your site.

    — why did you start claiming you say you won in the first place, how old are you? I have had better challengers and they never said anything childish like I won?

    —When presidential debates happen do they shout out I win?

  282. kween of kweens Says:

    Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
    *peeks back in*

    Yall niggas still talkin about Cristal?

    Tupac sample —> “H’ole bustas…”

    *logs off*

    —–
    *same thing im doing*
    —–
    WHAT THE FUKKKK?
    L0L ESKAY iN Y0UR ALLEGED FIRST PICTURE YA GiRLS HAiR IS IN YOUR MOUTH lol

  283. eskay Says:

    >>But you own this site, so who is not going to be on your side eskay

    oh yeah, nobody ever disagrees with me on this site. get a fucking grip.

    >>They all think your dick is cristal and so they want to taste your hot sauce.

    you lost and you’re gay

  284. kween of kweens Says:

    Foekist aka Pap Izwak Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
    *peeks back in*

    Yall niggas still talkin about Cristal?

    Tupac sample —> “H’ole bustas…”

    *logs off*

    —–
    *same thing im doing*
    —–
    WHAT THE FUKKKK?
    eksay on your first picture you have something on your lip

  285. 456 Says:

    456 Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
    Boosie: lost in his argument.

    ^read more carefully. i said you got lost IN your argument. you a little sensitive right now.

  286. Boosie Says:

    so you won by default right?

  287. Boosie Says:

    456,

    I’m not sensitive at all, I’m sitting here laughing, fucking with eskay cause I know he gets mad but tell me I did I get lost IN my argument?

  288. eskay Says:

    >>eksay on your first picture you have something on your lip

    I hope you don’t seriously think that’s me

    Boosie,

    It’s the internet first of all, if it was real life I woulda been punched you in the face and won that way.

    the terms lost and won are frequently used on this site, and I’m not the only person who says that. They originated on the SOHH boards in the form of “Nas Lost” and “Jay Lost” etc.

    now what is more childish, saying I won or continuously arguing with somebody who has clearly bested you with logic and fact and taking everything they say and twisting it around completely?

  289. Boosie Says:

    you know they always say in a debate, when someone starts making personal attacks and starts calling people names, that those are the people who are frustrated and generally the ones who lost. Hence eskay.

  290. kween of kweens Says:

    well the person boosie says you are does
    and
    thank the dear lord its not you

  291. eskay Says:

    >>so you won by default right?

    I was being sarcastic dog. I really think you’re dyslexic or something.

  292. 456 Says:

    look boosie. i hear you on how rich people pass culture down. cristal is one of those exclusive brands that rich children get from they parents. tweeds and laura ashley and high end fashion shit that niggas never heard of. but you lost your point like 20 hits ago and just started being argumentative. once you started the perpetual question shit i think you forgot your argument.

  293. Boosie Says:

    but what does dyslexic have to do with winning an argument.

    you saying dislexic people cant function right?

    do you know how many six figure people there are that are dyslexic?

    but no sorry I’m not dyslexic, just wondering what logic you brought into the convo.

  294. Dem Says:

    > I was being sarcastic dog. I really think you’re dyslexic or something.

    Not dyslexic, just a troll. you’ll get tired of fighting them in the long run, es.

  295. 456 Says:

    …still don’t mean that jay didn’t affect them and gave cristal a special extra against their parents. the reason why puff and jay crossed-over so easily is because they fed white people’s narcissism. but for the uber rich white kids the shit they recognize in hiphop is like validation.

  296. eskay Says:

    Dem,

    on a normal day I would never humor this clown, but I’m bored at work so what the hell

  297. Boosie Says:

    456,

    I was questioning cause I needed know at what base his stanpoint started from, its like I had to back up and knew what mind frame he was speaking of, so I had to ask him questions. but you must have thought my tone was argumentative, but it was not the case. I never once called eskay a moron like he called me. I just kept being polite.

    It’s just hard to believe that a sambo nigga like jay-z(this is how they think) could introduce cristal to rich white people when they have been drinking it for years and years.

  298. Dem Says:

    @ es

    i thought this was your job. Not quite yet, huh?

  299. 456 Says:

    shit, this game is over. I wonder he know that?

  300. eskay Says:

    Boosie you should audition for the next season of Lost.

  301. D. Billz Says:

    *comes back from lunch (didn’t know Jamaicans actually kept the head attached to the snapper fish)*

    *sits down in cubicle and feels the “itis” coming on (and also realizes that he needs to work out)*

    *scrolls up to what seems like Boosie trying to dismantle my argument when basically he proves my point*

    “See dbillz, I’m a have to play referee and call you for goal tending son,
    I never made the point that jay-z didnt have influence, All I said was how can eskay say people like Paris hilton or any other rich white kid not know about cristal growing up, when their parents popped it off every week at the local art gallery.

    Sure jay-z has brought it to the masses and even to rich white kids, but before jay came around are you telling me that rich white kids didnt know about Cristal?

    *blows whistle*
    *calls goaltending on # 2-4*
    *dbillz now comitts 2nd turnover for the game in one minute*
    *coach calls him back to the bench*
    *wont see playing time till 8 games later*

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
    *eskay and dbillz are now riding the pine, giving each other high fives on the bench*

    *boosie=d.wade*

    *eskay and dbillz wont be able to guard him anymore in the series*

    *hence they’re on the bench* — right next to *carlos arroyo, and jud bucheler*

    ^^ There are a couple fouls on that play. One, how can we assume that the majority of rich people drink alcohol or even go to art galleries? That’s a sterotype. Granted, there is truth to it but unless you have statistical evidence then it’s hard to take into account.

    And once again, we’re not sayin’ rich white kids didn’t know about it, we’re sayin’ HE MADE IT POPULAR. Just like I’m sure plenty of Black men were rockin’ jeans and blazers before Kanye but HE MADE IT POPULAR. The more popular a product is, the more sales it generates, and the more revenue for that particular company. If it wasn’t the truth, then tell me how Blacks, who only make up 12-14% of this country, were the #1 consumers in 2004? And that, my friend, is statistical evidence. Even Dirty Bum (Jenny Jones), who started rockin’ wallet chains, has started a trend in the urban community. And even though white kids were doing it before Jim, now the Black kids and EVEN MORE WHITE KIDS WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE “COOL” (READ: BLACK).

    *Boosie = Jordan*

    *D. Billz = A.I. in his rookie season*

    *crosses the hell outta MJ and fades away for 2 points*

    *clip is shown on Sports Center for a week*

    *crowd goes nutz*

  302. Boosie Says:

    456,

    you work for jay too?

  303. eskay Says:

    Dem,

    Nah I wish, although in a way I am kinda getting paid right now to argue with Boosie.

  304. 456 Says:

    *closes the virtual chess board.*

  305. eskay Says:

    *sees Billz is back*

    *high fives him for that mean crossover*

    *heads to locker room*

  306. Boosie Says:

    There are a couple fouls on that play. One, how can we assume that the majority of rich people drink alcohol or even go to art galleries? That’s a sterotype. Granted, there is truth to it but unless you have statistical evidence then it’s hard to take into account.

    So basically one shouldnt assume that poor blacks listen to rap music ?
    One shouldnt assume that most rappers say cursewords in their music?
    One shouldnt assume, that the majority of blacks like basketball?
    Do I need statistics? thats lame.
    Plus uber rich white people know good art. Trust that.

    Plus usually stereotypes have truth to them anyway, its just an over generalization of it, and one can made to be look stupid if they think a person knew about something, just because they were this or that.

    Plus d billz, in the second paragraph, I dont disagree with that statement and that is not the point I was making, you are way off base, on what you think I am trying to convey.

    Boosie=jordan

    *boosie owns a team now*
    *iverson=home fishing*
    *jordan tells him “put on suit lil nigga, get it tailored up*
    *jordan post up on iverson*
    *jordan splashes the fadeaway*

  307. nation of thugacation Says:

    lol @ auditioning for next season of lost
    and @ closes virtual chess board

  308. D. Billz Says:

    *dapz Es*

    *gets a tech for tauntin’ Boosie*

    *leaves the court and gets a groupie # on the way out*

  309. nation of thugacation Says:

    arguing is a hell of a drug

  310. Boosie Says:

    dbillz, can you scroll up for me, and talk about you vacation with nbmore?

  311. 456 Says:

    LOL

  312. D. Billz Says:

    So basically one shouldnt assume that poor blacks listen to rap music ?
    One shouldnt assume that most rappers say cursewords in their music?
    One shouldnt assume, that the majority of blacks like basketball?
    Do I need statistics? thats lame.
    Plus uber rich white people know good art. Trust that.

    Plus usually stereotypes have truth to them anyway, its just an over generalization of it, and one can made to be look stupid if they think a person knew about something, just because they were this or that.

    Plus d billz, in the second paragraph, I dont disagree with that statement and that is not the point I was making, you are way off base, on what you think I am trying to convey.

    ^ I’m going to ask you this one question and it’s a YES or NO answer. Don’t try to give me no elaborate, long-winded, answer that has no relevance to the topic (i.e. the whole stereotype thing, because I only used that as an example). Once again BOOSIE, this is a YES or NO answer.

    Can you honestly agree that when Black people do somethin’ that it becomes MORE popular to the general public, as opposed to somethin’ that another culture might have been doing before us?

  313. Boosie Says:

    lmao,

    I see all the dick riders for eskay,

    456- agrees with my point, nevertheless rides for eskay
    nation of thugacation- eskay’s thread security and hypeman
    dbillz- rides for eskay no matter what
    dem- he is a new guy so he is going to flock to eskay

    tyrone is getting jealous guys.

    you guys are hilarious.

  314. Boosie Says:

    Can you honestly agree that when Black people do somethin’ that it becomes MORE popular to the general public, as opposed to somethin’ that another culture might have been doing before us?

    I’m telling you for the 2nd time, that isnt the point I was making. You are wayyyyyyyy off base. You come in here skimming, not even know what the subject was about. What you are talking about, is not what me and eskay were arguing over.

    do you read post or just skim through it?

    by the way the yes I agree with you dog. I told you that already.

  315. D. Billz Says:

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 4:56 pm
    lmao,

    I see all the dick riders for eskay,

    456- agrees with my point, nevertheless rides for eskay
    nation of thugacation- eskay’s thread security and hypeman
    dbillz- rides for eskay no matter what
    dem- he is a new guy so he is going to flock to eskay

    tyrone is getting jealous guys.

    you guys are hilarious.

    ^ Waiting for your YES or NO answer to my last question.

  316. 456 Says:

    *laughing at Boosie trying play Lex Luthor* it aint that serious, homie.

  317. eskay Says:

    fucking guy can’t even give a simple yes or no answer.

  318. Boosie Says:

    dbillz please stay on the subject.

    this is the 2nd call that the ref has whistled on you.

  319. D. Billz Says:

    “by the way the yes I agree with you dog. I told you that already.”

    My point exactly. Class dismissed. You have an F. Summer school sign up sheets are in the main lobby. See you in September.

  320. Boosie Says:

    d billz, you are not making sense, I thought you were more intelligent than that.

    talking about something different. Your point is for another case.

  321. 456 Says:

    d. billz got that killer instinct.

  322. D. Billz Says:

    Dawg, your point is that white people were already doing this before Blacks, right?

    Ok, so if that’s your point, I’m sayin’ that Blacks make everything white people do more popular. Hence, the NBA. Invented by whites, dominated by Blacks. White kids in the suburbs weren’t buying jerseys and Air Jordans before, of course, MJ.

    “God’s Son across the belly, I prove you lost already”

  323. Boosie Says:

    d billz explain what are you trying to say?

    Please get back to your 10 hr job?

  324. D. Billz Says:

    Laments terms Boosie:

    WHITE PEOPLE INVENT SNEAKERS.

    WHITE PEOPLE LIKE SNEAKERS.

    WHITE PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    BLACK PEOPLE LIKE SNEAKERS.

    BLACK PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    WHITE MAN THINK BLACK MAN IS KEWL.

    EVEN MORE WHITE PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    MORE SNEAKERS ARE SOLD.

    THE END.

  325. Boosie Says:

    Ok, so if that’s your point, I’m sayin’ that Blacks make everything white people do more popular. Hence, the NBA. Invented by whites, dominated by Blacks. White kids in the suburbs weren’t buying jerseys and Air Jordans before, of course, MJ.

    Again thats not the point I was making. I never said blacks dont popularize things. You made that point on your own.
    Do you read post?

    You cant say ether words, because your boss eskay likes jay better.

  326. nation of thugacation Says:

    lol at hypeman

  327. T Nelson Says:

    I wonder how many free cases Cristal will send to Jay

  328. Boosie Says:

    Laments terms Boosie:

    WHITE PEOPLE INVENT SNEAKERS.

    WHITE PEOPLE LIKE SNEAKERS.

    WHITE PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    BLACK PEOPLE LIKE SNEAKERS.

    BLACK PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    WHITE MAN THINK BLACK MAN IS KEWL.

    EVEN MORE WHITE PEOPLE BUY SNEAKERS.

    MORE SNEAKERS ARE SOLD.

    THE END.

    Lmao, its funny that I can tell you are getting frustrated, again that is not the point I was making.

    I thought you were a smart one b, obviously not.

  329. D. Billz Says:

    d billz explain what are you trying to say?

    Please get back to your 10 hr job?

    ^ I’m surprised you’re on here. I didn’t know they let custodians use the computers.

  330. eskay Says:

    “Nah Right across the belly, I prove you lost already”

  331. D. Billz Says:

    Lmao, its funny that I can tell you are getting frustrated, again that is not the point I was making.

    I thought you were a smart one b, obviously not.

    ^Ok, make your point then.

  332. D. Billz Says:

    Lol @ frustrated. Dawg, you’re just fillin’ the time slot until I leave work.

    “Who’s gassin’ him?”

  333. Boosie Says:

    dbillz,

    you are corny duke, custodian? that has been said many of times.

    plus you keep making points that has no relevance to this discussion.

    eskay,

    why are you repeating words that a custodian is saying?, you did say that nas sweeps floors didnt you? You shouldnt say custodian lyrics.

  334. D. Billz Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
    dbillz,

    you are corny duke, custodian? that has been said many of times.

    plus you keep making points that has no relevance to this discussion.

    eskay,

    why are you repeating words that a custodian is saying?, you did say that nas sweeps floors didnt you? You shouldnt say custodian lyrics.

    ^ Enough babbling. Stay on topic and make your point.

  335. Boosie Says:

    d billz go read them

    why do you always take eskay’s side? are you internet friends with him?

  336. Boosie Says:

    ^ Enough babbling. Stay on topic and make your point.

    Well shouldnt you be telling yourself to do that. Why are you repeating my words? are you unoriginal?

  337. eskay Says:

    Billz, don’t even waste your time, you see how all of a sudden he has no point? Dem was right, he’s nothing but a troll.

  338. Boosie Says:

    eskay, I made my point. I told d.billz to scroll back up to read them.

  339. D. Billz Says:

    eskay Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
    Billz, don’t even waste your time, you see how all of a sudden he has no point? Dem was right, he’s nothing but a troll.

    ^ I know. I just get a kick out of it. I could care less about alcoholic beverages or any of that shit. I do this to make time fly. And since you didn’t post a new topic, then it’s up to Boosie to keep this going until I get ready to leave work. It’s called mind control.

  340. Boosie Says:

    see yestertday billz agreed with me, when eskay was trying to tell me that white girls had bodies shaped like black ones, but eskay never came back an argued at him.

    See how when you guys disagree on something, you never go after each other, you just leave it alone, but when I make the case for it, you guys wanna get e-thuggish, and be keyboard killers.

    eskay is getting mad talking about he will punch me in the face in real life. LOL

  341. eskay Says:

    Lil Boosie did you finish your etherbutter and jelly samich?

    © el_feces

  342. D. Billz Says:

    “I never made the point that jay-z didnt have influence, All I said was how can eskay say people like Paris hilton or any other rich white kid not know about cristal growing up, when their parents popped it off every week at the local art gallery.”

    ^ Ok, I answered that one. And people on here already agreed and said that we knew that people like Paris and whatever else rich white people knew about it. But I’m sure there are plenty of other young, rich white people who didn’t know about the many products that Black people endorse. And even IF they did, they didn’t think they were cool because Whites equate cool with Black culture.

  343. Boosie Says:

    Lol, I see how you like that mind control thing billz, cant nobody get eskay a 4x platinum topic like me. So It was good b. Maybe next topic we can argue about another subject.

  344. eskay Says:

    >>cant nobody get eskay a 4x platinum topic like me

    oh please. I was going plat when you were in diapers (last month)

  345. Boosie Says:

    ^ Ok, I answered that one. And people on here already agreed and said that we knew that people like Paris and whatever else rich white people knew about it. But I’m sure there are plenty of other young, rich white people who didn’t know about the many products that Black people endorse. And even IF they did, they didn’t think they were cool because Whites equate cool with Black culture.

    Okay, I feel you on that but see you dont necessarily disagree with me on that one. Plus I never said that blacks dont have influence on white culture. The point about it being cool is a whole nother subject. Like I said billz I never disagreed with you, so why are you getting mad, playing iverson and glorifying a two point score?

  346. Boosie Says:

    nah I was here too b. last month that is

  347. D. Billz Says:

    “It’s just hard to believe that a sambo nigga like jay-z(this is how they think) could introduce cristal to rich white people when they have been drinking it for years and years. ”

    This goes back to the same debate. I don’t care what they think about Jay. What you have to understand boosie is that only 5% of the country controls 95% of the wealth and even the MAJORITY of white people don’t fit into that 5%. You have to realize that there are far more suburban towns than urban cities. I can probably name all America’s major cities on 2 hands. With that being said, yes, rich white people have been drinking it for years. But there are PLENTY of middle class white people who didn’t know about it. And the major influence on their middle class white kids is pop culture. So when little Billy sees a rapper with fronts in his mouth, then guess what? Now the price of fronts go up because little white kids across the country want grills. And you can apply that same theory to Cristal.

  348. el_feces_grande Says:

    BATTYBOI BOOSIE,…DID YOU FINISH THE SANDWICH?..YOU WANT SOME ETHERMILK?..NO?..OK,,WELL SIT YO AZZ DOWN THEN..

  349. Boosie Says:

    This goes back to the same debate. I don’t care what they think about Jay. What you have to understand boosie is that only 5% of the country controls 95% of the wealth and even the MAJORITY of white people don’t fit into that 5%. You have to realize that there are far more suburban towns than urban cities. I can probably name all America’s major cities on 2 hands. With that being said, yes, rich white people have been drinking it for years. But there are PLENTY of middle class white people who didn’t know about it. And the major influence on their middle class white kids is pop culture. So when little Billy sees a rapper with fronts in his mouth, then guess what? Now the price of fronts go up because little white kids across the country want grills. And you can apply that same theory to Cristal.
    ^^

    dbillz,

    I made no such case for middle class b.

  350. the Landlord Says:

    …Boosie is boring…smart kid, i guess…but his persistent, unrelenting desire to be right and prove everyone else wrong is becoming very boring and predictable…where’s the old crew?…TY, coldplay, Joe 88, Plug, Beastnigga, Maddenmaster, bORN7ALLAH, me, Flipper (nahright skits), shit even Luis and Bugsy?…i miss the old days…the good old days…
    *can it be that it was all so simple then?*

  351. el_feces_grande Says:

    SIDEBAR*…IF SHE WAS BLACK..SHE D BE IN THE CAR WHILE THEY DID THIS

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/147598/you_cheat_you_lose/

  352. D. Billz Says:

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
    17 year old rich girls don’t go to the art gallery with daddy. and even if they did, daddy doesn’t pass them the Cris.

    Uber Rich people dont go to the art gallery? Rich people dont know anything about expensive art? They must not have pieces that cost more than ja rule’s house right?

    What about when daddy is not there? 17 yrold uber rich white girls dont drink do they?

    ^ Stereotypes are never good for an arguement. When you said that, you might as well have said, “of course poor Black people know how to make Kool-Aid and fried chicken”. Therefore I’m not going to dignify that one with an answer.

  353. el_feces_grande Says:

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=80090079

    IMMA SAY PEACE ..ON THIS NOTE,..EVERYONE MAKE IT BACK SAFE..DONT O.D. ON TOO MUCH CRISTAL THIS WEEKEND. ONE.

  354. iLL Change Says:

    @ landlord

    you forgot c0l0mb14n

  355. the Landlord Says:

    …see, Boosie’s running everyone off…

  356. Boosie Says:

    ^ Stereotypes are never good for an arguement. When you said that, you might as well have said, “of course poor Black people know how to make Kool-Aid and fried chicken”. Therefore I’m not going to dignify that one with an answer.

    you know ten black people who dont know how to make kool-aid? You dont even have to make it anymore.
    what is your point?

  357. the Landlord Says:

    iLL Change Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
    @ landlord

    you forgot c0l0mb14n

    ——-
    …yeah, him too, and probaly you too…eventually…

  358. D. Billz Says:

    Boosie Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
    This goes back to the same debate. I don’t care what they think about Jay. What you have to understand boosie is that only 5% of the country controls 95% of the wealth and even the MAJORITY of white people don’t fit into that 5%. You have to realize that there are far more suburban towns than urban cities. I can probably name all America’s major cities on 2 hands. With that being said, yes, rich white people have been drinking it for years. But there are PLENTY of middle class white people who didn’t know about it. And the major influence on their middle class white kids is pop culture. So when little Billy sees a rapper with fronts in his mouth, then guess what? Now the price of fronts go up because little white kids across the country want grills. And you can apply that same theory to Cristal.
    ^^

    dbillz,

    I made no such case for middle class b.

    ^ EXACTLY! If you exclude the middle class, then you’re excluding the major factor. If RICH white people only make up 5%, and MIDDLE CLASS Whites make up damn near 70%+, then who do you think makes up the market? Think about this: That means somewhere between 70-75% is the amount of white people buying hip hop which is generated by 12-14% of Black people. Do your homework.

  359. Boosie Says:

    landlord,

    I’m not trying to run people off, Im just trying to make my point. I mean I know I got into it with eskay the last three days, but It’s just for laughs or bullshit, thats all.

  360. iLL Change Says:

    # the Landlord Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    iLL Change Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
    @ landlord

    you forgot c0l0mb14n

    ——-
    …yeah, him too, and probaly you too…eventually…

    ——-
    yeah, i been on Nah Right for a while now actually. probably 4 months

  361. Boosie Says:

    ^ EXACTLY! If you exclude the middle class, then you’re excluding the major factor. If RICH white people only make up 5%, and MIDDLE CLASS Whites make up damn near 70%+, then who do you think makes up the market? Think about this: That means somewhere between 70-75% is the amount of white people buying hip hop which is generated by 12-14% of Black people. Do your homework.

    Exactly nothing, Middle class subjects were not even part of this conversation me and eskay had. You are preaching to the choir.

  362. iLL Change Says:

    >> I mean I know I got into it with eskay the last three days **(No Homo)** i got ya back this time

  363. Boosie Says:

    real niggas dont have to say no homo

  364. the Landlord Says:

    @ Boosie

    …we aint laughing homie…and you’re right, its bullshit…you spend like 6,000 posts giving your opinion, very few facts or stats to support them..i do believe you’re a smart guy…and I KNOW DBillz and Eskay are also intelligent, but at some point it all starts to sound like……

    “My dad is bigger than your dad”

    “No he’s not”

    “Well wouldnt you say that since my uncle is bigger than your dad, then naturally my uncle is bigger than your uncle?”

    “Blah, blah, blah”

    “GTFOH, yada, yada yada”

    …trust me, i know…been there and done that…Right TY?…

  365. D. Billz Says:

    the Landlord Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
    @ Boosie

    …we aint laughing homie…and you’re right, its bullshit…you spend like 6,000 posts giving your opinion, very few facts or stats to support them..i do believe you’re a smart guy…and I KNOW DBillz and Eskay are also intelligent, but at some point it all starts to sound like……

    “My dad is bigger than your dad”

    “No he’s not”

    “Well wouldnt you say that since my uncle is bigger than your dad, then naturally my uncle is bigger than your uncle?”

    “Blah, blah, blah”

    “GTFOH, yada, yada yada”

    …trust me, i know…been there and done that…Right TY?…

    ^ Word. Because at the end of the day I aint supporting that shit. Everything I buy is discounted from market value one way or another and the other stuff I just boycott altogether.

    *B More Nubian*

    aka Slyte Lee Hoff

    RBG 4 Life

    “heads up, fists clenched, eyes open”

  366. Boosie Says:

    lol, that was pretty funny, but I dont believe this was a matter that had to have stats involved.

    eskay said he guaranteed paris hilton types didnt start drinking cristal till jay-z said so.

    To me that was way off base.

  367. 456 Says:

    bdthvlc.

    *broken down/ to his very last compound/

  368. E-40 Dat Brooklyn Nucka Says:

    DAMN ESKAY NOBODY PAYS HOMAGE TO A LEGEND ON HIS BIRTHDAY????? AINT IT 2PACS BDAY TODAY???? FUCKED UP NIGGA.

  369. D. Billz Says:

    Well, it’s been fun people. I’m about to head outta the plantation for tonight. Holla at yall later.

    Btw, if Joe 88 is readin’ this… I was at the Baha last night for the first time chief. Those mofos down there are off the hinges!

    I’m out…

  370. the Landlord Says:

    …damn, now dbillz gone…boosie you gonna have to post as someone else and argue with your COT-damn self…lol…but you know what?….YOU WILL LOSE…

  371. Boosie Says:

    lol, ok landlord, I really dont get why you are telling me about what I am doing, but neglect to look at your peers action. You never say anything to bugsy or biggums killer, but when I make my points, you are always trying to give me the fatherly speech and point out what I am doing and not pointing out what others are doing.

  372. D. Billz Says:

    *just realized I don’t leave until 7*

    Doh!

  373. Boosie Says:

    I need fresh blood, anyone else wanna come in?

  374. Shanti Says:

    damn I didn’t even realize today was the 16th (Tupac’s b-day)

  375. Boosie Says:

    eskay is a jay fanatic, he is still kind of hurt by the wounds of the tupac biggie situation, therefore he is not too fond of tupac.

  376. BLACK ROBYN HOOD Says:

    HAPPY B-DAY PAC MY NIG WE MISS YOU DEARLY I CAN STILL FEEL YOUR GHOST FLOATING AROUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  377. BLACK ROBYN HOOD Says:

    UNCLE MURDA IS A PROBLEM NEW YORK IS ABOUT TO BRING THE FILTHY BACK OHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  378. the Landlord Says:

    @Boosie
    …because I used to do the same thing, but in a different manner…when i first found this site, I used to try and overwhelm everyone with Islamic, or 5% or Nation of Islam, or Black Nationalist rhetoric, which I firmly believe in, but my forceful and argumentive, all-knowing approach didnt go over too well with most of the regulars or the Moderator…so, basically I dumbed down to double the laughs, and voila, now I too am a regular…i respect and admire all intellectuals, but overzealousness in proving your point causes you to lose peoples’ attention because it sounds so self-serving…but you’ll be OK…just lighten up a little…

  379. D. Billz Says:

    ^ That’s why I stopped puttin’ *B More Nubian* after a lot of my posts. Mofos wasn’t checkin’ for that.

  380. the Landlord Says:

    D. Billz Says:

    June 16th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
    ^ That’s why I stopped puttin’ *B More Nubian* after a lot of my posts. Mofos wasn’t checkin’ for that.
    —————-

    …i was…and still am…
    *B More Nubian*
    …dont sue…

  381. D. Billz Says:

    ^Lol.

  382. the Landlord Says:

    …goodnight to all…and to all…goodnight…

  383. D. Billz Says:

    Landlord… It’s actually a play on words with a message intertwined. I’m from Baltimore, which we call “B’more” for short, and I’m a Black man. Therefore you get B More Nubian. But also, it’s a message to Black people saying that you should be more like the Black person God created you to be. Be more Black, B More Nubian.

  384. D. Billz Says:

    Iight, NOW I’m officially out… Peace.

  385. nation of thugacation Says:

    i dont really like tupac… most over rated rapper in the industry… has almost 0 skills, but tupac stans will take a bullet for the guy, but he is a hip hop icon and he was a beast in the studio, i said beast not best…

  386. BLACK ROBYN HOOD Says:

    NATION OF THUGACATION^^^^ I SEE NOW NOW WHY YOUR MOM’S BEG ME TO GIVE HER THE MONEY SO WE COULD ABORT YOU!!!! YOUR A LAME STOP PUTTING YOUR COCK IN YOUR MOUTH FOR PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO YOU!!! PAC WAS A MONSTER WITH THE LYRICS, AND A DAME ICON BEYOND YOUR BELIEF YOU CRAB. I KNOW EVERYONE HAS THERE OWN THOUGHT PROCESS BUT, BUT YOU MOM’S CRACK ABUSE DURING PREGANCY IS FLUCKING YOUR’S UP

  387. BLACK ROBYN HOOD Says:

    you know what it is thugacation you’s a straight up and down fuck boi

  388. nation of thugacation Says:

    you wanna hop off my dick

  389. iLL Change Says:

    KRS-One dropped a new album called “Life” on tuesday. who knew ’bout that one? no promotion

  390. Omen Says:

    “nation of thugacation” must be a galleta if he don’t feel pac..u ever had struggle in ya life cock buffer? no skills? gimme ya address so i can give u a quick three piece hood and sp style then piss on ya forehead…and why u reppin pap’s regime when u makin comments like that..ya computer screen a great tool to hide behind pussy u won’t catch me goin back and forth w/u on this jus lettin u know u a bird..and u aint a thug..and u aint educated..change ya name and listen to STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. – 2PACALYSE NOW – ME AGAINST THE WORLD – ALL EYEZ ON ME – back to back thats ya penance…flat out…one

  391. nation of thugacation Says:

    i repeat:
    “but tupac stans will take a bullet for the guy”

    smh @ ppl coming at me for not giving a fuck about tupacs bday. i like 4 of his songs, but out of his whole catalog, i find thats weak. i find the ratio of good songs to bad is to wide. im just stating my opinion that the guy is weak. and dont come at me for not giving a fuck, eskay didnt give a fuck neither did anyone else until someone said it was his bday today, at liek 7pm. if he were important to me or anyone to this site, we would be talking about him every day, but pac is only on this site on slow news days. life and music has more to it than being on tupac and biggie’s dick. seriously, the guy died, i couldnt give a fuck less what he did, i jam to a couple of his songs, just cuz u jerk off to the realest shit he ever wrote dont mean u have to come here and tell us to. fuck ease up and hop off my dick for real

  392. nation of thugacation Says:

    and dont be talking about screennames this has nothign to do with it, i repeat for the third time i put this screen name during a pap post and i decided to keep it not to mix up people and just to stay the same. right now pap is weak on the whole marketing tip but i still respect the music i liked 3 months ago. now black robyn hood and omen can suck a dick, and anyone else who thinks i am wrong for not being a tupac stan

  393. The Truth... Says:

    Eskay:

    ….When I look at rappers nowadays, I see just as many wearing Gucci suits and being chauffeured around in Rolls Royce’s…….

    Sorry dog, but that comment sounds maaaad ghetto!!!
    Just cause you’re rich doesn’t mean you are like “those” people. Not that I would want to….but it just sounds ghetto to say “I’m rich too…look, GUCCI!…I can drink Cris too…” Money don’t buy you class and/or style…..

    Also:
    “….Anyway, I say that to say this: I could care less about the image of your brand. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the activities that your customers are involved in, at the very least you should show some appreciation for their patronage or else keep your mouth shut. The idea that people can spend money on a product and then be talked down to because of the actions of a few is wholly absurd.”

    Looking at it from their point of view, they are simply not “selling out”. Are you going to do or be ok with anything that someone is saying/doing just cause they’re paying you? Can someone just buy your point of view? Buy your friendship?
    Also, I think they are scared that this “fashion” is going to “scare off” all the white rich people…and that if a year from now it’s not cool to drink this anymore and ballers choose something else, they will have lost their customers (old and new) and their name/face…..they are just trying to keep a certain image. I’m not agreeing with it or saying they’re wrong….I think it’s just what they are thinking. And forget the product or the fact that they are talking about rappers/ballers for a second, but can you knock someone for trying to keep a certain image/style/name/prestige for their company/product? Of course not.

    There are a lot of clothing brands out there that only want to be sold in certain stores and are trying to keep a certain image, even if it means selling a little less. You think that’s wrong? You don’t think the owner of a company has the right to do that? Are we criticizing their choice or the fact that they are talking about people within Hip Hop?

  394. iceberg slim Says:

    Daily Hip-Hop News:
    50 Cent Lands On Forbes “Celebrity 100 Power List,” Earns $41 Mill Last Year

    does anyone really think he gives a fuck about any lox diss or games diss or anyone else diss………

  395. eskay Says:

    >>Sorry dog, but that comment sounds maaaad ghetto!!!
    Just cause you’re rich doesn’t mean you are like “those” people. Not that I would want to….but it just sounds ghetto to say “I’m rich too…look, GUCCI!…I can drink Cris too…” Money don’t buy you class and/or style…..

    ^ By that statement I was trying to say that hip hop and it’s practicioners are growing up. they aren’t just artists anymore, they’re executives. they don’t just run around dressed like thugs, they present themselves respectably. I don’t think for a minute that money buys class, but I’d Puff and Jay are some pretty classy guys wouldn’t you?

    I feel you on the whole rest of what your saying, but that doesn’t change the fact that they should keep they mouth shut. they may not like certain images but I bet they like that money. You won’t find Gucci and Louis Vuitton on Fordham Rd. but you also won’t hear them complaining about people buying it.

  396. Down South Repin Says:

    1)50 cent 40 mil? That sound’s funny, this cat names speaks broke but he is doing his thizzle. 2)Why can rappers beef and beat each other out of bread but let this white man “diss” them (or us whatever) and they wanna boycott? Naw, why can you bust someone head who looks like you for saying something negative but when this damn cracker do the same thing it now its time to get political and all board roomish. Getthafuccouttahere

  397. Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    What did I say yesterday?

    >> Cristal should of had someone retract Rouzaud’s statement, but now it’s too late. Because if they retract now, it’s like they’re trying to get the business back from the same people they insulted.

    http://nahright.com/news/2006/06/14/jay-z-takes-my-advice/#comment-72403

  398. Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    Plus, the respone was too long of a time ago to be corrected, AND one of the most powerful people in Hip-Hop already removed it from his club anyway.

  399. SilverSurfer Says:

    It’s so interesting because all the sites are taking different spins on this subject. Allhiphop.com started the misquote of unwarranted attention but their message board poster are riding with a boycott. playahata.com is not urging a boycott on their message board people are saying that a boycott is not warranted and questioning the harm in the comments.
    Daveyd.com message board is political like playahata.com but they also saying a boycott should happen.

  400. iLL Change Says:

    quadrouple platinum

    you’re welcome Mrs. Carter

    … nah im fuckin wit ya (no homo). b e z

  401. Front Says:

    I don’t really see how this could hurt this business. They make a limited amount each year and will always sell out. This is how these elite business’ work. Just because it is popular, it is not like they are going to make more to meet demand, just the price of the bottle at the retailer level goes up.

  402. Big E Says:

    Jay look like a beetle wit those shades on….

  403. Front Says:

    I am killin em out there, they needin first aid

    Holy shit, I just skipped down to the bottom and posted this, didn’t read the comments, can’t believe nobody else realized this. Well, I am the best. I don’t know why people even post anymore, I got all the “Best of 2006″ categories locked down.

    I think the main elite community has actually moved away from Cristal & Dom Perignon to Krug, which would explain the not so ridiculous jump in bottle price, considering the expontentially increased exposure. Also, what I’m sure horrifies all elitists, is that Cristal pretty much gets every bottle popped every year, as opposed to large amounts of it getting stored away for maturation.

    eskay, saw some classic Nas comments, I’m surprised if they were not any Nas stan’s suicides as a direct result. You mentioned that the Hilton was not that rich, barely worth a billion, you need to realize how big a billion really is. People these days have a hard time understanding just how big a million is, much less a billion, because they hear those big numbers always be throwing around.

    A 1000 hours in 6 weeks.
    A 1000000 hours in 114 years.
    A 1000000000 hours in 1141 centuries.
    Civilizations have only been around for 55 centuries.
    Homo sapiens bave been in the Americas for 100 centuries.
    Homo sapiens have been in Europe for 400 centuries.

    You would have to go the moon and back 2094 times to get a billion miles on the odometer.

    A billion is really huge.

  404. iLL Change Says:

    @ Big E

    i said the same thing…
    http://nahright.com/news/2006/06/16/more-on-cristalgate-company-responds/#comment-73847

  405. realest rap bish ever Says:

    STILL BELIEVES THAT NONE OF THIS DOES SHIT TO BETTER THE GAME….OR HELP THE STATE OF HIPHOP……OR TO HARM THE SALES/IMAGE OF THE CRISTAL BRAND. IF THEY AINT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE HURT BY A NEGRO BOYCOTT OF THE PRODUCT. YEAH RIGHT. NIGGAS NEED TO LOOK AND THE BIGGER PICTURE AS ALWAYS. HOV—-BOY COTT SOME SHIT EVERYDAY PPL GIVE A DAMN ABOUT-LIKE POLICE BRUTALITY/INJUSTICE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DRUGS, AIDS, CHILD ABUSE WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE!!!!!!!!!!FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IS SICK OF PPL WITH MONEY AND POWER (HOWEVER LIMITED) NOT UTILIZING IT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE-DONT GIVE ME SHIT ABOUT CHARITIES AND DONATIONS- DO MORE NIGGAS. JUST LIKE U FEEL ITS NEVER ENOUGH CAKE AND MONEY AINT A THING, ITS NEVER ENOUGH YOU CAN DO TO ELEVATE YOUR PEOPLE. BANNING CRIS FROM A CLUB AINT DOING SHIT- JAY STANS, COME ON AT ME. IM READY, CAUSE U BETTER NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY THIS HERE. I DARE YOU TO SHOW THE IMBECILE YOU REALLY ARE. NOT FOR BEING A FAN, BUT FOR BEING BLIND………………….

  406. iLL Change Says:

    ^^ its like the female ty biggs… run-on sentences in all caps. no offense

  407. Front Says:

    Charity based on need does not help.

  408. realest rap bish ever Says:

    RUN ON SENTENCE=SENTENCES THAT DO NOT FOLLOW RULE OF GRAMMAR OR USE CORRECT, IF ANY PUNCTUATION. SO ARE ILLITERATE, OR JUST IGNORING PERIODS AND COMMAS, AND SO FORTH AS THEY CLEARLY APPEAR IN THE POST WHERE NEEDED. I POSTED THE CAUSE OF MY TYPING IN CAPS A LONG TIME AGO AND I DONT FEEL THE NEED TO GO IN TO IT AGAIN TO SATISFY YOUR POST-EDITOR THIRSTY ASS. IF U EVER IN YOUR LIFE COMPARE ME TO TYBIGGUMS, ILL HAVE 2 PROJECT BITCHES NAMED SWANIFAH AND TABREESHA COME TO YOUR JOB WITH CHILD SUPPORT DOCUMENTS, LOUD TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY GOT PICS OF YOU IN A PINK SEQUINED DICK-PLATE LIKE THAT RED SHIT NIGGA FROM CAMEO USED TO WEAR……….NO OFFENSE. DONT PATRONIZE ME ASSHOLE. FIND A GIRL WITH NO BACKBONE TO PICK ON. YOU WAYY UP THE WRONG TREE IN HERE. MATTER FACT, WHERE WERE U WHEN ALL THE BIRDS WAS IN HERE TALKING BOUT HOW THEY WANNA RUNN GROUPIE TRAINS ON JIM JONES? U AINT GOT SHIT TO SAY ABOUT THAT THO. NAH U GOTTA COME FUCK WITH THE GRAND HIGH OFFICIAL REALEST BISH OF HIP HOP, OUT OF PURE BOREDOM. LIKE I WONT AIR YOU OUT. MATTER FACT, FUCK IT. IMA JUST LET NIGGAS PLAY THEMSELVES IN BLACK AND WHITE, HELPIN NIGGAS NEVER PAYS.

  409. realest rap bish ever Says:

    Front Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 1:55 am
    Charity based on need does not help.

    MY POINT EXACTLY!

  410. iLL Change Says:

    god damn, i said no offense. what the fuck. i dont do the whole internet gangster shit, so dead that. i was juss pointin out similarities, it wasnt a diss. but the whole I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPITALS BECUZ OF THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON is kinda played out. do you scream when you talk in real life? or do you just think CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL?

  411. 456 Says:

    Front makes a good point. But the principle remains the same. Don’t patronize anybody that overtly disrespects you. its logic.

  412. 456 Says:

    front: what were the nas comments?

    ill change: realest rap bish is near-sighted.

  413. KingML Says:

    Getting drunk off champagne is fucking terrible anyways.

    Who gives a shit about any of this?

    Theres thousands of kinds of liquor and thousands of different companies making them.

    Champagne is for girls and bitches.

  414. realest rap bish ever Says:

    YOU ARE SADLY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I COME HERE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK. PLEASE GO AND GET SOMETHING THAT REMOTELY RESEMBLES A LIFE, AND ALLOW ME AND MY NUKKAS TO CHOP IT UP ABOUT THIS HIP HOP SHIT. DONT BE A DRAMA QUEEN GETTIN ALL OFF TOPIC ABOUT DUMB IRRELEVANT SHIT CAUSE U BORED AND IT ENTERTAINS YOU TO POP SHIT AT SOME GIRL U DONT EVEN KNOW…SAVE THE WHOLE “IT WASNT A DISS–FOOL U COMPARED ME TO TYBIGGUUMS!!! BETTER YET IF MY POSTS BOTHER YOU, HERES A THOUGHT–DONT READ EM! SEE….. NOW U LEARNIN’

    WHAT THE HELL DOES TYPING IN CAPS HAVE TO DO WITH LIFE IN THE REAL WORLD, AND HOW I TALK TO PEOPLE…SOME OF YOU NIGGERS IS CRAZY—WORD TO RICHARD PRYOR ON THE N WORD SPELLING.

    IF THERES A CRUISE CONTROL BUTTON FOR BEING WACK AS SHIT ITS ATTACHED TO YOU BRAIN, AND WE UNFORTUNATLEY CANT TURN THE DAMN THING OFF SO CAN WE MOVE ON>>>>>>>

  415. realest rap bish ever Says:

    @ILLCHANGE

  416. realest rap bish ever Says:

    AND IM NO HYPOCRITE CHICK, BECAUSE I NEVER COME UP HERE DROOLING BOUT SOME TIRED RAPPERS IMAGE OR HOW I WISH I COULD FUCK THEM/GROUPIFY MYSELF. FROM NOW ON ES, U SHOULD TO SCREEN THE WOMEN THAT COME HERE, SOME OF THESE MAN-STANS TOO IN THE FORMAT OF A MINI QUESTIONAIRE, IT WOULD GO SOME THING LIKE THIS HERE:

    1. HAVE YOU EVER ENGAGE IN ANY TYPE OF SEXUAL CONTACT/ENCOUNTER WITH A RAPPER THAT COULD CLOUD YOUR PERCEPTION OF “GOOD MUSIC”?

    2. DO YOU KNOW ANY THING ABOUT RAP MUSIC PRE-1990?

    3. NAME 3 HIP HOP PIONEERS (HINT: DO NOT TYPE “JAY Z OR NAS OR BIGGIE”), WE MEAN OG’S. NO RECENTLY DECEASED ARTISTS.

    4. WHAT IS THE LAST ALBUM U PURCHASED? CERTAIN TITLES WILL BAR YOU IMMEDIATELY FROM NAHRIGHT MEMBERSHIP INCLUDING D4L, DFB, AND YOUNG JOCS RECENT RELEASES.

    5. WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL HOST OF RAP CITY. NO, BITCH, IT AINT BIG TIGGER.

    6.NAME ONE STAR FROM ANY ONE OF THESE FILMS: BREAKIN 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO; BEAT STREET; WILD STYLE-

    7. NAME ANY 2 FEMALE RAPPERS WHOSE ALBUMS CERTIFIED RIAA PLATINUM BEFORE 1998.

    8. BREAK DOWN/NAME THE ELEMENTS OF HIP HOP

    9. DEFINE THE MEANING OF THE TERM “SWAGGER JACKER”

    10. NAME 3 ARTIST YOU CONSIDER “UNDERGROUND”

    I EFFIN SWEAR IF U MAKE A LEAST ONE CHICK HERE TAKE THIS QUIZ NAH RIGHT WILL BE A BETTER, SAFER, GROUPIE FREE ENVIRONMENT.
    PLUS THE ANSWERS WILL PROBABLY BE HILARIOUS. I KNOW PLENTY OF GIRLS WHO COULD ACE THE FUCK OUTTA THIS. BUT IM WILLIN TO BET FEW IF NONE OF THEM POST HERE FREQUENTLY. WILL ALL THE REAL HIP HOP CHICKS AT NAH RIGHT STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, WE NEED UNITY—-STRENGTH IN #’S! LADIES REPRESENT, HOOCHIES SIT DOWN. IF MY HOMIES AGREE, SAY AYE!

    FELT THE NEED TO REPOST–

  417. realest rap bish ever Says:

    AND IM NO HYPOCRITE CHICK, BECAUSE I NEVER COME UP HERE DROOLING BOUT SOME TIRED RAPPERS IMAGE OR HOW I WISH I COULD FUCK THEM/GROUPIFY MYSELF. FROM NOW ON ES, U SHOULD TO SCREEN THE WOMEN THAT COME HERE, SOME OF THESE MAN-STANS TOO IN THE FORMAT OF A MINI QUESTIONAIRE, IT WOULD GO SOME THING LIKE THIS HERE:

    1. HAVE YOU EVER ENGAGE IN ANY TYPE OF SEXUAL CONTACT/ENCOUNTER WITH A RAPPER THAT COULD CLOUD YOUR PERCEPTION OF “GOOD MUSIC”?

    2. DO YOU KNOW ANY THING ABOUT RAP MUSIC PRE-1990?

    3. NAME 3 HIP HOP PIONEERS (HINT: DO NOT TYPE “JAY Z OR NAS OR BIGGIE”), WE MEAN OG’S. NO RECENTLY DECEASED ARTISTS.

    4. WHAT IS THE LAST ALBUM U PURCHASED? CERTAIN TITLES WILL BAR YOU IMMEDIATELY FROM NAHRIGHT MEMBERSHIP INCLUDING D4L, DFB, AND YOUNG JOCS RECENT RELEASES.

    5. WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL HOST OF RAP CITY. NO, BITCH, IT AINT BIG TIGGER.

    6.NAME ONE STAR FROM ANY ONE OF THESE FILMS: BREAKIN 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO; BEAT STREET; WILD STYLE-

    7. NAME ANY 2 FEMALE RAPPERS WHOSE ALBUMS CERTIFIED RIAA PLATINUM BEFORE 1998.

    8. BREAK DOWN/NAME THE ELEMENTS OF HIP HOP

    9. DEFINE THE MEANING OF THE TERM “SWAGGER JACKER”

    10. NAME 3 ARTIST YOU CONSIDER “UNDERGROUND”

    I EFFIN SWEAR IF U MAKE A LEAST ONE CHICK HERE TAKE THIS QUIZ NAH RIGHT WILL BE A BETTER, SAFER, GROUPIE FREE ENVIRONMENT.
    PLUS THE ANSWERS WILL PROBABLY BE HILARIOUS. I KNOW PLENTY OF GIRLS WHO COULD ACE THE FUCK OUTTA THIS. BUT IM WILLIN TO BET FEW IF NONE OF THEM POST HERE FREQUENTLY. WILL ALL THE REAL HIP HOP CHICKS AT NAH RIGHT STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, WE NEED UNITY—-STRENGTH IN #’S! LADIES REPRESENT, HOOCHIES SIT DOWN. IF MY HOMIES AGREE, SAY AYE!

    FELT THE NEED TO REPOST–

  418. realest rap bish ever Says:

    KingML Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 6:16 am
    Getting drunk off champagne is fucking terrible anyways.

    Who gives a shit about any of this?

    Theres thousands of kinds of liquor and thousands of different companies making them.

    Champagne is for girls and bitches.

    IT IS? OH– THAT EXPLAINS ALL THE EMPTY CRISTAL BOTTLES THAT LITTER ME AND MY HOMEGIRLS MY BEDROOM FLOORS…U SERIOUS?…..I THOUGHT CHAMPAGNE WAS MORE OF A FAKE BALLER THING THAN A GIRL THING. JUSTIFY THIS GIRLS AND BITCHES STATEMENT—–SO IT SOUNDS LESS LIKE U HATE WOMEN,AND MORE LIKE U HATE CHAMPANGE, WHICH WAS THE DESIRED EFFECT, I BELIEVE……I HOPE!

  419. 456 Says:

    HIPHOP101 Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
    yo off the topic, there is a skit on ghostface’s ironman album before the song wildflower, what movie is that from?

    ^^ The Education of Sonny Carson. A classic. Sorry didn’t see that post before.

  420. Down South Repin Says:

    realest rap bish ever yo azz is to long winded. You gotta breathe before your slumped over your keyboard from passing out. Goodness

  421. Down South Repin Says:

    You runnin for office

  422. iLL Change Says:

    realest rap bish –

    I WASNT DISSING YOU. got it? who gives a fuck whether you’re compared to ty biggums, you dont know him (or me) in real life, so why does it matter at all? you seem to know your hip hop shit, i can respect that. do your thing. i wasnt tryin’ to be a “DRAMA QUEEN” or “POP SHIT AT SOME GIRL” that i dont know. i didnt know you were near-sighted, so caps lock it all you want. whatever. i’ll see you in the next Nah Right Skit.

    for real tho, where’s that skit?

  423. skinnykennyp Says:

    who cares about what ol’ Cameltoe Joe is drinkin or not drinkin these days

  424. eskay Says:

    Well, I’m not gonna get into why this issue matters to people who don’t buy Cristal, I’ve already been through it several times in several threads and this post pretty much lays out what I think about the whole incident.

    But realest rap bish, let me ask you this, what would you do if you had big money? You said charities and donations aren’t enough so what exactly would you do if you were a multi millionaire?

    you said that they didn’t care about our sales anyway but yet they issued the statement above specifically mentioning hip hop, so I’d say they definitely give a fuck about our sales.

    people who think this has nothing to do with any of us take offense to this boycott like “how dare Jay even bring up this shit to us, we can’t afford Cristal” those people are missing the point though. for one thing why are you taking it so personally?

    but really why are you making it so complex? it’s a very simple situation: a company made off handed remarks, and so they lose some business as a result. Jay was one of the main people who made this product cool and so he felt he had a responsibility to bring the company’s remarks to the attention of the people he was telling to drink this shit.

    that’s it, end of story. for people to turn around and be like “fuck this Cristal shit, it has nothing to do with us” they sound ridiculous. if you don’t drink the shit then don’t worry about it, just keep drinking whatever you drink and keep it moving. now people wanna be like Jay needs stand up for something that matters to us. If I was Jay I’d be like “man fuck ya’ll, I’m just trying to let you know what these people said about us, now I’m getting attacked?”

    the same people talking about how this is irrelevant to us, would be the same people dissing him if they found out about Cristal’s remarks on their own and realized Jay hadn’t said shit. I can hear them now: “why didn’t jay and Puff and all them speak up about this? they’re the ones who got niggas drinking this shit in the first place.”

    you can’t win with the general public because everybody thinks they know what’s best for the world or their opionion is the right one.

    furthermore, I hope all these people who are talking all that help the community shit are doing the same themselves. I hope that right now on Saturday afternoon you’re out helping the less fortunte and not on Nah Right reading this, cuz if not then you have no case.

  425. The Truth... Says:

    ^^^ Very true….you can’t win. People will always have something to say, no matter what you do. Too many people with too many opinions…you can’t make everybody happy.

    Personally, I think Jay was right to say those things for the reason eskay said (he made it big, etc….). I personally don’t need someone to organize a boycott to understand if I should do something or not. Quit makin a big deal about this. Ok, they were unappreciative of our business….whatever. You’re upset? Quit drinking it….I don’t know about y’all but I got bigger things to worry about than what the people at Cristal think….

    @ eskay

    Yes, I think Puffy and Jay are classy, and yes I think the people should have not made those comments because it just shows that they don’t respect us, but at the same time, ballers drink that shit, but do you think they give a fuck about the people that own the company?
    What I’m trying to say with that is, if I don’t care about someone, I can’t be upset if they don’t care about me.

    Can’t get too into it….gotta bounce.

  426. Blood Hound Says:

    Drinks Corona….. Fuck cristal!

  427. Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    Realest Rap Bitch,

    If you can’t see, get glasses. Or if you don’t want to get glasses increase the text size of your internet browser. At the top buttons, click “View” then “Text size” and choose something bigger. I don’t want to sound like I’m knocking you, or sound like a nerd, but looking at one sentence with like 3 paragraphs thrown in it (in caps) is annoying.

  428. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    @ skinnykennyp

    lol cameltoe joe

  429. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    man…
    fuck joe camel
    fuck cristal
    fuck Frédéric Rouzaud

    str8 henny-hen-hen over here…mixed with that sizzzzzzzurp

  430. Karen Says:

    “I mean you see the Paris Hiltons and those types drinking it in clubs…”

    We don’t see the Bill Gateses and those types in the clubs at all. Aren’t they the ones Louis Roederer is trying to sell Cristal to?

    “but i actually do wanna see the econimist or wherever the interview comes from”

    http://www.economist.com/intelligentlife/luxury/displayStory.cfm?story_id=6905921

    “And once again, we’re not sayin’ rich white kids didn’t know about it, we’re sayin’ HE MADE IT POPULAR.”

    Some of the kids probably thought “I know about that, it’s for old fogies like my parents” before Jay-Z made it popular.

  431. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    just more space on tha shelf fa armadale….

  432. Des Says:

    i can answer that quiz and im faaar from a rap groupie. :-)

  433. Demiks Says:

    Ya know what?! Fuck Cristal, fuck button up shirts, fuck trying to front like money comes easy.

    All I need is water, a bucket hat, and a some timberlands.

  434. Demiks Says:

    Noreaga before he went wack…

    http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BAE187B35B4B9864

  435. realest rap bish ever Says:

    YO ESKAY, THIS ONES FOR YOU…..

    THIS POST WILL NEVER DIE…
    ILL RESPOND INDIVIDUALLY-
    Down South Repin Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 7:41 am
    realest rap bish ever yo azz is to long winded. You gotta breathe before your slumped over your keyboard from passing out. Goodness

    LONG WINDED? I BET U BE AT HOME MOUTHING THE WORDS AS U TYPE HEHEE. NAH THANKS, I LIKE BEING A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. APPRECIATE YA CONCERN FOR MY RESPIRATORY HEALTH THO—ANYWAY…

    What I’m trying to say with that is, if I don’t care about someone, I can’t be upset if they don’t care about me.

    Can’t get too into it….gotta bounce.

    YO ES, I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POST, MY POINT IS IM NOT UPSET…NOT SURE WHERE U GOT THAT FROM….SURE OF COURSE WE SHOULDNT SUPPORT THEM, AND PLENTY OF HARRY AND NORMS OUT HERE NEVER PATRONIZED THEM ANYWAY, SO FOR THEM ITS JUST SOLIDIFY THE REASONS FRIVOLOUS THINGS LIKE OVERPRICED TOILET WATER IS UNNECS. I THINK YOURE GETTING DEFENSIVE SEEING THIS AS A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH JAY AND THATS NOT THE CASE. IM SAYING HOW DOES THIS “BAN” CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THE IGNORANCE AND GROSS MATERIALISM THAT WE ARE FED ON A DAILY? IT DOESNT. IT JUST MEANS NEGROS ARE GONNA FIND A NEW BANDWAGON TO HOP ON, AND LINE SOME OLD RICH RACIST FUCK WADS POCKET, HOWEVER THEY DECIDE TO PROMOTE WHAT EVER NEXT YEARS NEW “IT SHIT” IS. AND IN MY VIEW, YEAH THE BAN AND THE STATEMENT JAY MADE IS COOL, OF COURSE HE SHOULD HAVE OR HED LOOK A DAMN FOOL, I COUNT AT LEAST 5 HITS HE HAS WHERE HE NAME DROPS CRIS, SO HOW COULD HE NOT ADDRESS IT. HE CAN IGNORE CAM ALL HE WANTS AND NOONE WILL CARE, BUT HE HAD TO HANDLE THAT BUSINESS. IM SURE IF HE WASNT NOW A CLUB OWNER WHO SELLS THE PRODUCT, THE ISSUE MAY NOT HAVE RECIEVED THE SAME LEVEL OF PUBLICITY. HE WOULDVE JUST STOPPED SHOUTIN OUT CRIS ON TRACKS AND WE WOULD VE SEEN A LITTLE SIDEBAR STATEMENT INSTEAD OF AN ARTICLE. NOW GET OUT HERE AND REACH OUT TO THESE KIDS WHO BUY THE CRIS, AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT THAT IS PIMPED ONTO THEM BY (WHOEVER, THE BLAME LIST COULD GO ON FOREVER)……

    SINCE U MENTIONED ME PERSONALLY, AND WHAT I CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SOCIETY, PLENTY, AND I ENJOY IT AND TAKE PRIDE IN IT, WITHOUT GOING TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL AND GIVING UP UNNESC. BIO INFO, LETS JUST SAY I HELP KEEP VA ON THE MAP, AND I TRY TO DO MY PIECE IN MAKING IT A SAFER, FUNNER (HEEHEE) PLACE FOR KIDS IN THE SEVEN CITIES AGES 5-18. NUFF SAID, NOT THE KINDA PERSON WHO GOES AROUND PROVING SELF TO PEOPLE YA KNOW, YOU KNOW ME YOU SEE IT, OK GOOD, CAUSE ITS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT. WERE SUPPOSED TO LEND HANDS, U, ME EVERYBODY.

    CHARITIES AND DONATIONS (WHEN HANDLED PROPERLY) SERVE A PURPOSE BUT WHAT MOST OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS NEED AND LACK ARE, A WARM WILLING ABLE BODY THAT GIVES TIME, RECRUITS FOR THE CAUSE AND GETS THE MESSAGE OUT THERE, UNTILL THE PUBLIC TAKES NOTICE FOR GOOD. TO USE YOU POWER AND TIES TO MOTIVATE CHANGE, WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND FORCEFULLY. ILL SAY IT AGAIN. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, BABY, AND THAT IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM. ITS ABOUT SHIT NIGGERS (PARDON THE TERM BUT IS WHAT IS) WONT EVEN DO IF U PAID EM. SURE SIGN A CHECK FOR 100 THOU OR WHAT EVER AND SEND IT IN. AND THEN YOURE SATISFIED WITH SELF. BUT I WONDER, DEAR GOD I WONDER, IF ANY OF THEM (QUIETLY WHEN ALONE) LOOKED IN THE MIRROR AND SAID, IS THERE MORE I COULD HAVE DONE?

    THAT BEING SAID IF I HAD ACCESS TO THE KINDA PAPER JAY TOUCHES, (IM NOT SO SURE THATS AS GRAVY AS IT SEEMS- A PURE HEADACHE IN ITSELF, ITS COSTS SO MUCH ( MORE THAN MONEY,) TO BE FILTHY RICH. BUT CONSIDERING THAT ID SPEND MORE TIME REACHING OUT, LESS ROLLING AROUND IN MY MONEY VAULT LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK, TRAVELING THE WORLD BIGGING UP MY CAUSE AND FINDING SUPPORTERS. YET AGAIN BEFORE ES BLOWS HIS STACK, THIS IS NOT, IS NOT ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER, THIS IS LIFE, AND HOW WE IMPROVE IT. THIS AINT ABOUT ME OR YOU EITHER, BIGGER THAN THAT, YOU SEEM TO BE A SMART MAN SO I HOPED YOUD GET THAT.

    BY THE WAY CUTE LITTLE QUIP ABOUT BEING ON YOUR SITE ON A SAT. AFTERNOON. WOULD YOU RATHER PEOPLE NEVER COME TO YOUR SITE? I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE POINT OF “ACCESS”, WHICH IS WHAT WHAT THE INTERNET IS, CONVIENENT ACCESS TO INFORMATION WHEN YOU YOU ARE ACCESSIBLE. THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND TIME U BROUGHT THT UP WHICH IS ILL TO ME, CUZ THE REGULARS ARE HERE WELL, ON A REGULAR. IF THIS IS PERSONAL AND YOUD RATHER ME NOT BE HERE, AND DONT VALUE MY OPINION (AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN, ESKAY GOT DAMN U, IT ALMOST APPEARS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WOMEN HAVING A MIND OF THEIR OWN, AND VOICING IT!) IF YOURE GONNA BARK EVERYTIME SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOUR IDEAS, YOURE MISUNDERSTANDING THE TERM “MODERATOR”. NOW IM BEING A LADY HERE, AND IM PUTTING IT OUT THERE: I AM SICK OF SEXISM, GROSS MATERIALISM, AND RACISM, ALL THE DAMN ISMS THAT HAVE NO PLACE IN HIP HOP, AND HAVE MADE THE GAME WACK. AND IF YOU OR NAH RIGHT ARENT DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THAT, THEN U TELL ME WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY? THATS NOT A QUESTION FOR ME, THATS SOMETHING FOR SELF. I DIDNT JUDGE ANY ONE I SPOKE TRUTH, AND U STILL HAD ANA FOR ME. SO IT JUST COMES OUT LOOKIN LIKE WOMEN CANT WIN FOR LOSING HERE. IVE SEEN ENOUGH TO BUILD MY CASE AND THE GIRL BASHING SPREE NEEDS TO END, CAUSE SAME GUYS DO NOT TALK TO THEIR LADY OF THE HOUSE LIKE THAT, CAUSE SHES GONNA MAKE HERSELF HEARD. SO CONSIDER ME “WIFEY” @ NAHRIGHT: YOU KNOW U LOVE ME, U OUGHTA RESPECT ME, EVEN WHEN IM ON YA NERVES, U STILL KISS ME MISS ME SO DONT EVEN PISS ME…
    IM EXTENDING MY HAND CAUSE I LIKE THE SITE, ITS REFRESHING AND HONEST, AND FULL OF COMEDIANS, BUT IM BEGGING YOU, TO EASE OFF SOME ON THE WHOLE “IF U DONT AGREE YOUR WACK, AND YOU DONT BELONG” MENTALITY. YOURE WALKING AROUND THE REAL ISSUE.

    Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
    Realest Rap Bitch,

    If you can’t see, get glasses. Or if you don’t want to get glasses increase the text size of your internet browser. At the top buttons, click “View” then “Text size” and choose something bigger. I don’t want to sound like I’m knocking you, or sound like a nerd, but looking at one sentence with like 3 paragraphs thrown in it (in caps) is annoying.

    YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOT TO LOOK AT ALL. IF YOURE INTERESTED IN WHAT IVE POSTED, IM SURE CAPS LOCK SHALL NOT KILL YOU DEAD THRU YOURE EYEBALLS. IF IT DOES, IM CALLING RIPLEY’S BELEIVE IT OR NOT ASAP SON. FROM NOW ON I AINT ADRESSING THE PETTY STUFF. MY VISION IS USUALLY HANDLED BY AN OPTOMETRIST, BUT UH.. OKAY. YEP. HMMM. IF YOU EYE SOCKETS ARE LEAKIN FROM IT, THATS DEEP.

  436. eskay Says:

    Realest Rap Bish,

    Now I see where you’re coming from because you expnaded on what you meant, but your first comment didn’t sound much like this last one. Let me give you a quote to show you what I mean: “JAY STANS, COME ON AT ME. IM READY, CAUSE U BETTER NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY THIS HERE. I DARE YOU TO SHOW THE IMBECILE YOU REALLY ARE. NOT FOR BEING A FAN, BUT FOR BEING BLIND…………………”

    ^ so I hope you can see how I might take offense to that comment.

    Let me be clear, I have absolutely no problem with girls/women commenting on this site. If anything I’d like to see more females on here voicing their opinions. I don’t think I’ve ever personally went at you so I’m not sure why you feel as if I’m anti woman.

    That being said, it gets pretty hectic up in this bitch so don’t for a minute think you’re not gonna get any hate. Shit all the dudes, myself included, get hella hate on the daily, so women shouldn’t expect to be treated any differently.

    As for the “IF U DONT AGREE YOUR WACK, AND YOU DONT BELONG” MENTALITY” what can I say. That’s how I argue. My ex used to always complain to me about that tone I take when I think know I’m right, but I can’t help it, I get it from my pops.

    And for the record, I’m not a moderator, I’m a blogger. This isn’t a message board it’s a blog, and there’s a subtle difference. My posts are heavy with opinion and my personal views on stuff, and I vehemently defend those views in the comments. However I never delete comments unless they are really out of line and offensive, and I never tell anybody they can’t post here so even though I’m an opinionated dude, you should never feel unwelcome here.

    The Saturday afternoon quip was meant exactly how it came across. It was for anybody talking all that help the community shit but is sitting at home on their day off dicking around on a website. There’s nothing wrong with that, shit I was on here on Saturday afternoon, but it’s like don’t talk all that riteous shit if you ain’t doing nothing (not you, just in general). I take shots at the regulars sometimes but it’s all in fun. it’s more like me being mad cuz I’m so busy and I can’t be up in every convo like I’d like to be, so I take a little pot shot. it’s nothing.

    I got nothing but love for everybody who comes to my site and the last thing I wanna do is offend people and make them not want to come back (well maybe a few people, but not you ;-)

  437. realest rap bish ever Says:

    ok, ok, now back up off me with all that warm fuzzy ish, i felt your hand on my ass. i feel you on the whole being mad at not being to keep up with whats going on due to time constraints, its like dumb nigga posted up here, when he leaves, niggas pull out chicken and 40′s and roll up, start pouring cups of henny and the party get crunk, and when hes back its dead again. *can take the heat at nahright, decides to stay in kitchen*;hugs all jay fans tightly and wipes tears away, heehee.

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