Field Mob Cops A Plea
It has come to my attention that there is a brand new blog entry on Field Mob’s Myspace page in which they attempt to dismiss that video of them making fun of New York as "fake." The statement, presumably written by one of their publicists, can be read here.
The writer claims that the clips were taken from a Raw Report DVD Magazine and that the video currently making the rounds is somehow false, and a link to the actual footage is given.
Well, I watched the original video clip and there are in fact some differences. For one, when Smoke and Shawn J are doing their little New Yorker impersonations, text was placed over the scene that read: "Poking fun at NY slang! LMAO!!" In the original video, that text was not there.
Also, certain scenes were taken out of context such as the freestyle at the end, which was probably not directed at New Yorkers, although the editing gives that impression.
While this is all well and good, the claim that the original video is somehow "false" is absurd. Whether or not the video was edited does not change the fact that Field Mob made all of the statements we saw them make on the original. It’s not like the audio was changed to make them say something they didn’t say, all of it is authentic.
My big problem with that video isn’t the fact that they are making fun of New York slang, because honestly we make fun of Southerner’s slang all the time up here. My problem is with the statements made about the phrase "Let’s bring New York back."
For whatever reason, some people tend to interpret that statement as a subliminal shot at the South, which seems to me like a sign of insecurity. If ya’ll run shit the way you claim you do, why even worry about what others are saying? Is it that serious that you have to pick apart and analyze such an innocent statement in order to find an insult?
I mean I see ya’ll are running around showing an awful lot of pride in your region, but when we do the same it’s a problem? If so then that’s your own goddam problem, because I’ll tell you right now, our sense of pride isn’t going anywhere.
Truthfully, I would’ve respected Field Mob more if they would’ve just stood by their statements. If you’re gonna talk shit then talk it, but don’t try to cop plea after you see a backlash brewing. Talking about "Field Mob in no way has beef with anybody in NY." Yeah, whatever, you probably should of thought of that before you came out your face sideways.
Anyway, in the interest of improving East/South relations, I think we should all just forget about all of this nonsense. The truth is we’re arguing over shit that we will never agree on. New York will always feel it is the premier region in hip hop and so will the South. We should be spending this time and energy doing something constructive rather than bickering over greasy comments and creatively edited DVD’s.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
dam thats really soft of em
April 26th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
its instinct to be a hater for a lot of people
April 26th, 2006 at 12:21 pm
Damn thats messed up.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:21 pm
Well I told yall a long time ago that I got a brother that does A&R work for Luda and as crazy as it sounds we happened to be talking about this same bullshit on sunday and he was telling me that it was some bullshit but nigga its hard not to believe my ears and my eyes!!!!
It shouldn’t have been said but but but niggas from the east been taking Jabs at the south so alls fair I guess…. I hope it just dies!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
It should die I mean it aint that serious anyway.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
Huh, makes sense.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
eskay says -
For whatever reason, some people tend to interpret that statement as a subliminal shot at the South, which seems to me like a sign of insecurity. If ya’ll run shit the way you claim you do, why even worry about what others are saying? Is it that serious that you have to pick apart and analyze such an innocent statement in order to find an insult?
thats exactly what i say. i used this same shit with the red sox fans years ago.
( i went to this little junior college up ther year for 2 years ) the red sox fans had so much hate and ill will towards the yankees it was ridiculous, they were always bugging out an dit seemed that they cared more that the yankees lose than that the red sox win. i always laughed at them no matte what they said cause i would say its hilarious how bent out of shape you guys get over us winning everything, i would then remind them yankee fans dont hate red sox fans cause they arent a threat to anything ( i mean i cant be mad at my favorite boxers punching bag can i ) sox fans hate us from years and years of us beating them, no matter what they say theycant touch our legacy ( i admit the last couple of years i grew some hate for them because a) they actually finally won something and b) i was in mass for 2 years and they have some of the dumbest and worst fans on earth ( notice some i know some real knowlegdable cats there but as a whole i hate the city of boston not just the sox )
this is the same shit the south has an inferiority complex ( as they should ) and they have to keep saying fuck ny fuck ny hoping that they can scream loud enough to get people to agree. but just like one championship by the sox cant possibly match the legacy that is the yankees, just like jeezy, t.i. and d4l cant possibly compare with the ny hip-hop legacy
April 26th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
How is the South on top? Just cuz they are all over the radio, meaning D4L and DFB… well, as far as I know, both of them have shitty ass sales. Even Tony Yayo outsold both of them together, but we consider that a FLOP, meanwhile the south is taking over? just cuz you have catchy club songs on the radio all day doesnt mean you run shit, specially if nobody buys your shit. D4L only sold like 250,000 copies(thats about how many clubs there is in America, lol)
Besides them, only Jeezy, Paul Waul, and like 1 or 2 more Southern rappers went platinum… Meanwhile 5-0 himself(I aint a big fan of his current music, just stating facts) outsold the whole southern area… BUT NY IS FALLING OFF.
Just cuz 80% of the succesful NY rappers didnt come out last year, doesnt mean we fell off. They will probably drop this yr. and let see if “we come back to life” cuz if that is the case, then y’all aint even born… Not tryin to be disrespectful, just sayin how I see it, I like some Southern shit.
P.S: I aint a Gunit fan, but Ill be honest, Id rather listen to that shit anyday before SNAP, which supposedly has the South on top.(not a good look)
April 26th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
He was saying that with some artists, screaming “bring new york back” is a substitute for saying “fuck the south”, which they cant/wont say when they know theyll need a lil jon track for they next album. This whole east/south thing is only a big deal on the internets
April 26th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
>>He was saying that with some artists, screaming “bring new york back†is a substitute for saying “fuck the southâ€, which they cant/wont say when they know theyll need a lil jon track for they next album.
^^but what if that’s not what they want to say? Alot of artists who’ve said that or made similar statements have worked with Southern artists no?
April 26th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
ONE Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
How is the South on top? Just cuz they are all over the radio, meaning D4L and DFB… well, as far as I know, both of them have shitty ass sales. Even Tony Yayo outsold both of them together, but we consider that a FLOP, meanwhile the south is taking over? just cuz you have catchy club songs on the radio all day doesnt mean you run shit, specially if nobody buys your shit. D4L only sold like 250,000 copies(thats about how many clubs there is in America, lol)
Besides them, only Jeezy, Paul Waul, and like 1 or 2 more Southern rappers went platinum… Meanwhile 5-0 himself(I aint a big fan of his current music, just stating facts) outsold the whole southern area… BUT NY IS FALLING OFF.
Just cuz 80% of the succesful NY rappers didnt come out last year, doesnt mean we fell off. They will probably drop this yr. and let see if “we come back to life†cuz if that is the case, then y’all aint even born… Not tryin to be disrespectful, just sayin how I see it, I like some Southern shit.
P.S: I aint a Gunit fan, but Ill be honest, Id rather listen to that shit anyday before SNAP, which supposedly has the South on top.(not a good look)
shit is true they really aint running shit like they claim. shit i was happy as hell to find out def franchize boyz only sol like 150,000 i thought they were selling like crazy but they aint selling shit buddens sold 5 times more than him. if jay and nas both come out this year those 2 albums alone will outsell the entire south sales for the year so how is the south running anything but that laffy taffy
April 26th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
>>He was saying that with some artists, screaming “bring new york back†is a substitute for saying “fuck the southâ€, which they cant/wont say when they know theyll need a lil jon track for they next album.
i really think when people say bring ny back they really just mean bring that old ny sound, bring back the lyrics its just happens thats what ny is known for
April 26th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
^ yeah, that sales shit is true. I stay asking Southerners to explain to me how the South runs shit and they say sales. but when you explain to them that they only have a couple of Platinum artists none of which outsold 50 they say, “oh be we went wood independently” who the fuck cares. so you maybe you’re running shit business sense wise but I don’t even believe that cuz most of the big sellers down south are on majors.
Anyway whatever, I fucking love the South, those guys are great. (I’m gonna start ending all my comments with that so I won’t be accused of “hating”)
April 26th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
Well if you think about it, the Midwest outsells the south also.
Eminem and here comes the wackness but…Nelly, Kanye etc.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
Hell even Obie Trice went plat off his first cd.
April 26th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
>>i really think when people say bring ny back they really just mean bring that old ny sound
^yeah you’re right Biggums but even if they mean bring NY back to the top of the game i.e. charts, video and radio play, what the fuck is the problem? we’re not allowed to want our region to do well? we can’t aspire to sell mad records too?
Its like niggas don’t want to see anybody else eat, but guess what niggas are eating up here pretty well. personally I could give a fuck about how any artists chart, but at the same time I like to see people in hip hop do well, no matter where they are from.
Edit I almost forgot:
I fucking love the South, those guys are great.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
“Yeah god, I feel you b, lets get that old New Yowic sound son, nahmean?”
*snickers*
On the real, midwest is the only place that doesnt really have a style of dress or speech. we took a little from the souuf, west and east and made a big pot of gumbo wit it……wit extra skrimp. Back in the day We was known for dressin preppy. I glad that phased out.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
what’s all this beef between nyc and the south about? you know santa monica runs you suckas. alright enough joking guys, i gotta get to woody harrelson’s new bar & grill on sunset. apparently there’s been a grease fire and they’re a little bit shorthanded. later…
April 26th, 2006 at 1:14 pm
i think that eskay is right. i think that we all need to forget about the south versus the north before this stuff goes public. you know i actually represent new york, thats why im all for them more than the south. but where i live i will always represent them, thats why i put southern boi. btu whenever i move back up thats when i’ll change it, but until then im somewhat for the south right now.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Hey Ty, do you anything about this Freeway show in Jerz this Friday? I know a Dipshit member supposed to be performing with him (”Baby Cam”).
April 26th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Dumb Nigga aka Milk Money Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
Well if you think about it, the Midwest outsells the south also.
Eminem and here comes the wackness but…Nelly, Kanye etc
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It seems like you are saying kanye and em and o trice are wack. You should clarify yourself
April 26th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
^^
No i meant to say Eminem and Trice are good, but personally i think Kanye is wack.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
What is so wack about Ye?
April 26th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Nah homie Kanye aint wack at all
April 26th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
If I’m not mistaking the comment “Let’s bring New York back!” came from the clip of a Papoose concert where Kay Slay was heard saying “If I catch one more New York nigga dancing like (he gestures and snaps) Ima smack the shit out of him. Let’s bring New York back!” If that aint a direct shot at the South I don’t know what is…
It’s funny that in your comments you say: (For whatever reason, some people tend to interpret that statement as a subliminal shot at the South, which seems to me like a sign of insecurity. If ya’ll run shit the way you claim you do, why even worry about what others are saying? Is it that serious that you have to pick apart and analyze such an innocent statement in order to find an insult?
I mean I see ya’ll are running around showing an awful lot of pride in your region, but when we do the same it’s a problem? If so then that’s your own goddam problem, because I’ll tell you right now, our sense of pride isn’t going anywhere.)
That wasn’t pride, that was hate. The rules of the game is, if you like something, buy it, if you don’t shut the fuck up! We don’t ask motherfuckers to listen to our shit. We make music for ourselves. If somebody else likes it cool. If they don’t still cool. We definitely don’t ask you to buy it. But what we do ask, is that you and any other motherfucker respect us, cause if you ever been to a club in the south, then you would know first hand that the dance floor easily turns into a boxing ring Ya Heard Me!
April 26th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
I said i think Kanye’s wack, that’s just my opinion. I just dont like his style and the way he raps.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
I feel all that yall are sayin but let me ask yall this: Who in the fuck said DFB and D4L were all the south had to offer?
We dont even jam that shit. We are on hardcore rap/ hip hop, the same shit yall on. Just kuz them niggas kome out wit that Laffy taffy shit dont mean thats the new southern sound or anything. The south has not changed at all we just finally gettin a lil shine. And Dem Franchize Boys went gold already so I mean they cant be that fuckin bad but I cant say the same thing for D4L.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
And yea we make club music kuz we go to clubs alot down in the south and that laffy taffy shit gets them hoes on the floor. Shit like that I dont really care for it but if the hoes like it then fuck it.
And dj5thward u from HOuston?
I feel u homie
April 26th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
And dumb nigga that is your opinion and nobody kan hate on that. Kant nobody tell YOU what the fuck to listen to.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
Im from the midwest so I feel that my opinion on this is unbiased
Hip Hop is New Yorks child to use a metaphor (born in NY)
that being said you have to let your child grow up and make its own mistakes (east west beef) no matter who this child effs with (south) (midwest)they will never be good enuff for your child
But if u fight it you may lose your child forever
Let your child live its own life we know where it came from
April 26th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
And Im a southern nigga that jams shit from ALL regions. Ask around my niggaz
April 26th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
G-town G Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
I feel all that yall are sayin but let me ask yall this: Who in the fuck said DFB and D4L were all the south had to offer?
>>That shit is for the new generation. I know cats down souf who say when that shit come on in the club, them young cats start going crazy. Bouncin and snappin. Old heads from no coast don’t like that. Just like lil jon crunk music. old heads hate that shit too. Crunk music is for ages 24 and under. Snap music is fo 21 and under. KRS one and kane is for 24 and up……yall get my drift?
April 26th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Hey I feel that Plug I wish niggaz would listen kuz Im tired of this argument. IT AINT NO BEEF BETWEEN THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH, unless u make it beef. The south fucks wit everybody we dont be on that hatin shit. I dont know what the fuck Field Mob was talkin about I mean them some silly ass niggas anyway they probably wuz jokin but shit they should have clarified that in the beginning.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
who cares!
April 26th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Just like wit any hood, niggas will say somethin and it’ll get blow out of proportion. Just like the east west shit. Suge’s hatrid for Puff got instagated to an out of control sitiation.
April 26th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Damn near anything u kan name started on the east coast. Thats like the birthplace of everything and it just slowly moves westward. I mean think about it, This whole damn country began on the east coast and moved west and ever since then there have been problems between who started this or that and who does it better. The shit doesnt even matter
April 26th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
jan Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
who cares!
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Yo moma chump. beat it. Men are talkin
April 26th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
jan Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
who cares!
^^
Well obviously you dont.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Real hip hop dont even seem like it sells anymore Im lookin at the chart and shit this nigga Ghostface is #52 after 3 weeks. He aint even went gold yet go get that shit. DFB is #65 and they already gold. Not hatin just statin facts.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
The “lets bring ny back” & “if I catch a nigga doing this dance I’m gonna slap him” remark k-slay made was NOT a shot @ the south.
What people who are NOT from NY don’t understand is that for years NY has been trendsetters NOT followers. In the past, even when people from other coasts were doing their own thing, we still did OUR thing. We did not copy.
Today, it just seems like we’re copying from others too much, from niggas calling themselves Bloods to niggas rhyming with a fake southern slang just to get signed.
“Lets bring NY back” is a phrase directed for newyorkers, not for southerners to catch feelings. Real talk!
April 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
………………………………………..the watcher………………………………..
April 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
D. Billz Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Hey Ty, do you anything about this Freeway show in Jerz this Friday? I know a Dipshit member supposed to be performing with him (â€Baby Camâ€).
NAW HOMIE I HAVENT HEARD ANYTHING YET ABOUT ILL SEE IF ANY OF MY BOYS HAVE BUT IF ITS JUST FREEWAY AND SOME DIP-SHIT MEMBER I DONT THINK ILL KNOW ANYONE WHO WILL KNOW OR CARE TO KNOW
April 26th, 2006 at 2:06 pm
>>How is the South on top? Just cuz they are all over the radio, meaning D4L and DFB… well, as far as I know, both of them have shitty ass sales.
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>> Besides them, only Jeezy, Paul Waul, and like 1 or 2 more Southern rappers went platinum… Meanwhile 5-0 himself(I aint a big fan of his current music, just stating facts) outsold the whole southern area…
*Information taken from Riaa.com (recording idustry association of america)
Southern Artist
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LIL’ WAYNE THA CARTER, VOL. 2 3/23/2006 Platinum
DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ ON TOP OF OUR GAME 3/16/2006 Gold
BUN B TRILL 3/20/2006 Gold
YOUNG JEEZY LET’S GET IT 9/29/2005 Platinum
T.I. URBAN LEGEND 03/03/05 Platinum
CHINGY POWERBALLIN’ 03/21/05 Platinum
YING YANG TWINS U.S.A.: 08/25/05 Platinum
TWISTA THE DAY AFTER 12/09/05 Gold
CHAMILLIONAIRE THE SOUND OF REVENGE 12/15/05 Gold
OUTKAST SPEAKERBOXXX / THE LOVE BELOW 12/03/04 Multi-Platinum (10)
TRILLVILLE / LIL’ SCRAPP THE KINGS OF CRUNK PRESENTS: 09/09/04 Gold
LUDACRIS & DTP DISTURBING THA PEACE 01/19/06 Gold
BIG TYMERS BIG MONEY HEAVYWEIGHT 02/19/04 Gold
CHINGY JACKPOT 02/24/04 Multi-Platinum (2)
TWISTA KAMIKAZE 02/26/04 Platinum
JUVENILE JUVE THE GREAT 07/20/04 Platinum
NELLY COUNTRY GRAMMAR 04/27/04 Multi-Platinum (9)
J-KWON HOOD HOP 05/03/04 Gold
LIL’ FLIP U GOTTA FEEL ME 08/18/04 Platinum
8 BALL & MJG LIVING LEGENDS 07/20/04 Gold
LIL’ JON & TEB KINGS OF CRUNK 08/04/04 Multi-Platinum (9)
THREE 6 MAFIA DA UNBREAKABLES 09/21/04 Gold
NELLY SUIT 01/19/05 Mulit-Platinum(3)
NELLY SWEAT 11/01/04 Platinum
TRICK DADDY THUG MATRIMONY 12/01/04 Gold
LUDACRIS THE RED LIGHT DISTRICT 01/14/05 Platinum
JONES, MIKE WHO IS MIKE JONES? 06/03/05 Platinum
WALL, PAUL THE PEOPLE’S CHAMP 10/18/05 Platinum
THREE 6 MAFIA MOST KNOWN UNKNOWN 11/02/05 Gold
YOUNG BUCK STRAIGHT OUTTA CASHVILLE 01/26/05 Platinum
April 26th, 2006 at 2:06 pm
I feel that, whoever blitzpro is…
Thats whassup
April 26th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
50 CENT THE MASSACRE 12/16/05 Multi-Platinum (5)
April 26th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Lol @ Ty… yeah, I figured I would just put it out there. We don’t get any good shows here. I’m about to start rallying. How the fuck do shows go from Philly straight to D.C.? What kinda disrespectful shit is that? But then again, niggas here ignorant and don’t respect shit. And that’s why promoters would rather spend their money in a location where they know mofos will support.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
“The air is dirty, but the gas is cheaper”… love that line.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Thank you Stephen I wasnt about to type all that shit. Im glad you did…!
April 26th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
But Stephen my friend Twista is not from the south and neither is aw man let me just say it rite one time… 50 cent.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
>>If I’m not mistaking the comment “Let’s bring New York back!†came from the clip of a Papoose concert
^you are mistaken, because it’s been said many times before that and after
>>If that aint a direct shot at the South I don’t know what is…
^your buggin cuz that wasn’t a shot at the south believe it or not. he was at a NY concert talkin to New Yorkers. his point is that alot of clown ass motherfuckers in NY think they’re in the South doing that corny ass snap dance and not showing any support to NY artists. take it how you want to take it but why would a guy who needs artists from all over for his mixtapes and radio shows dis the entire south? Kay Slay is an idiot but I don’t think he’s that stupid.
>>The rules of the game is, if you like something, buy it, if you don’t shut the fuck up!
^nah fuck that, if I see some wack shit being referred to as hip hop I’m speaking on it. you ‘true’ southern hip hop fans should speak on it too or risk losing credibility
>>We definitely don’t ask you to buy it.
^oh I think you do. if you didn’t then Field Mob wouldn’t be copping pleas right now worrying about pissing off a whole city.
>>But what we do ask, is that you and any other motherfucker respect us, cause if you ever been to a club in the south, then you would know first hand that the dance floor easily turns into a boxing ring Ya Heard Me!
well we damn sure ain’t gonna respect garbage doggie so don’t hold your breath. and I don’t know what that last sentence was supposed to be getting at but your welcome to come up to a NY club anytime and see how we get down. homey at the Papoose concert came awfully close to finding out firsthand, ya dig?
April 26th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
I don’t know why but twista and the rest of them dudes from they hood consider themselves as southern. Listen how he talks. They up on that screw more than some of the souf cats
April 26th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
i’ll let you do the math
P.S the stats only go back 2 yrs, when really the south started gaining momentum like 3 or 4 years ago. With Crunk Music blasting on the scene… 50 cent didn’t even out-sell the south in 2005…not trying to start a riot, but people ask why everyone keeps saying the south is running the game…look at the plaques and the influence on the market…will post east coast stats after lunch.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
I thought J-Kwon, Chingy and Nelly were from St. Louis though, dont they claim Midwest? And Twista is from Chicago.
But i dont hate on regions, as long as the music’s good, i’ll listen.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Stephen C., I see alot of Gold and Midwest artists on that list homey. Midwest is clearly not the South and not that I care about sales, but in this day and age everybody goes gold.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
i said twista because unlike other cats from chicago (ie common, kanye west and other’s) Twista and groups like Do or Die have a strong southern influence in their music
April 26th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
But still, they aint from the south though.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
If you asked nelly if he considered himself a southern artist, what do u think he would say? No.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
St. Luis is souf.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
no not from the south they dont count but they sho the south luv no doubt
April 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
“Real hip hop dont even seem like it sells anymore Im lookin at the chart and shit this nigga Ghostface is #52 after 3 weeks. He aint even went gold yet go get that shit. DFB is #65 and they already gold. Not hatin just statin facts.”
thats why cats want to bring NY back..
April 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
>>i said twista because unlike other cats from chicago (ie common, kanye west and other’s) Twista and groups like Do or Die have a strong southern influence in their music
^so using that logic NY should claim everybody from every region. come on dog, give us strictly Southern sales cuz if you remove Nelly and Chingy those are two of the biggest sellers on that list.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
Missouri is the midwest dawg
April 26th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
>>If you asked nelly if he considered himself a southern artist, what do u think he would say? No.
^so why is he listed?
April 26th, 2006 at 2:19 pm
It’s the South’s turn to shine, get over it! It will come full circle again and it will be NY’s time to shine . You’re all on here getting your g-strings in a twist over some tough and cheek comments that two rappers have made. Get a fucking grip!
April 26th, 2006 at 2:19 pm
Nelly is eskay but chingy aint. That powerballin shit must have just went platinum last week
April 26th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
Dogg, Nelly and The St. Lunatics had a song called Midwest swang.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
I usually get don’t get into these convos but i sort of feel what southerners
are saying when people confuse d4l wit the whole south. I lived in baltimore my whole life (what up billz, T nelson) & when people talk about baltimore music the first thing they think about is club music that shit don’t repersent us thats just some shit they play to get the party jumping. The young people like it
April 26th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
D. Billz Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Lol @ Ty… yeah, I figured I would just put it out there. We don’t get any good shows here. I’m about to start rallying. How the fuck do shows go from Philly straight to D.C.? What kinda disrespectful shit is that? But then again, niggas here ignorant and don’t respect shit. And that’s why promoters would rather spend their money in a location where they know mofos will support.
D. Billz Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
“The air is dirty, but the gas is cheaperâ€â€¦ love that line
YEA THERE ALWAYS SHOWS GOING ON IN NYC OR JERSEY I USUALLY FIND OUT LIKE THE NIGHT BEFORE OR SOME SHIT, I TOLD YOU BOUT THAT TIME IVE SEEN JERU IN B-MORE BUT OTHERWISE IM SURE MOST RAPPERS SKIP B-MORE JERU JUST MAKES A STOP EVERYWHERE.
AND YEA THAT BUDDENS LINE ABOUT THE GAS IS CLASSIC AND DAMN TRUE , REALLY FOR ANYTHING IF YOUR ABOUT TO GO TO INTO THE CITY BUY YOUR GAS CIGARETTES WHATEVER BUY IT BEFORE YOU CROSS THE TUNNELS OR BRIDGE
April 26th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
chingy sucks. But I think Lil Flip and TI is the niggas in this region that have sold the most in the last 2 to 3 years, not to mention Lil Jon
April 26th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
(If ya’ll run shit the way you claim you do, why even worry about what others are saying? Is it that serious that you have to pick apart and analyze such an innocent statement in order to find an insult?)
Hmmmm..so esgay…sorry eskay, you’re saying it’s a simple statement and we shouldn’t get bent all out of shape about it. So first of all why do you have a problem with the name i choose. (i.e. fuc-ny), secondly When the hole Saigon shit happend u immediately went to his defense; saying oh he’s only saying what everyone was thinking and all that other bullshit that came out ya raggedy ass mouth. Well, Cot dammit, they saying what everyone else was thinking too. But for some odd reason u seem to have taken sensitive to the situation. Basically, you’re so full of hipocracy that u don’t even see it. Honestly, read what the fuck u put up there and see how many times u contradict yourself. “We reppin our region, but fuck snap music”. “We make fun of southern slang too, but still……”. Come on dude! We do what we do down here. Period. We give two fucks if u don’t like the music, if u think we fuckin up the rap game with our “music with no message”(which is so stupid cause when yall had the gameand was rappin that gangsta shit bout killin and killin and murderin and shooting babies nobody said shit, so shut the fuck up!), or whatever u think. Work on “Bringin New York Back”, aight. Oh and eskay please don’t respond to this because “it’s just some innocent statements”! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got a hundred gunz a hundred clipz, nigga i’m from GA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Twista is from texas(first record label was rapalot) but he was unknown until the 90’s
April 26th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
eskay,
also whats wrong with gold?
50 CENT THE MASSACRE 12/16/05 Multi-Platinum 5)
JAY-Z AND LINKIN PARK COLLISION COURSE 07/19/05 Platinum
JAY-Z THE BLACK ALBUM 08/16/05 Multi-Platinum (3)
NOTORIOUS B.I.G. DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER 02/03/06 Gold
GHOSTFACE KILLAH IRONMA02/09/Platinum
CASSIDY SPLIT PERSONALITY 04/19/04Gold
L.L. COOL J 10 06/30/04 Gold
L.L. COOL J THE DEFINITION 10/05/04 Gold
BANKS, LLOYD THE HUNGER FOR MORE 09/09/04 Platinum
SHYNE GODFATHER…BURIED ALIVE 12/01/04 Gold
METHOD MAN TICAL 0: THE PREQUEL 12/02/04 Gold
MASE WELCOME BACK 11/01/04 Gold
CAM’RON PURPLE HAZE 01/14/05 Gold
SANTANA, JUELZ WHAT THE GAME’S BEEN MISSING 01/03/06 Gold
the east sure has alot
April 26th, 2006 at 2:25 pm
L.P.CROOKS Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Twista is from texas(first record label was rapalot) but he was unknown until the 90’s
^^
Yeah but he claims Chicago though.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
@ EVERYONE
IMMA BE HONEST WIT YALL. ALL YALL NI99AS TALKIN BRING NEW YORK BACK ARE GETTING OLD. REMEMBER HOW YALL USED TO LAUGH AT YA POPS AND UNCLES FOR SAYING THAT THE HIGH TOPS AND DRAMATICS WERE REAL MUSIC? THATS HOW NIGGAS IS LAUGHIN AT NEW YORK. I KNOW I LAUGH AT YALL NIGGAS. HOLDIN ON TO AZ AND THESE OLD HAS BEENS. AZ IS A HAS BEEN, HE’S NOT SWEET ANYMORE. HIS LAST ALBUM FLOPPED. PAPOOSE IS NOT SWEET. IF YOU LIKE PAPOOSE, HE HAD AN ALBUM OUT ALREADY. ITS CALLED “THE BIG PICTURE”. THATS HOW LIFE IS. SHIT CHANGES. 106 AND PARK IS BRINGING NEW YORK BACK……ITS CALLED “THE OLD SKOOL JOINT OF THE DAY” i AINT HATIN CAUSE I’M GETTING OLD TOO BUT YOU CAN’T BRING BACK THE PAST.
*pops in DMX its dark and hell is hot*
April 26th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
No doubt…it aint where u from its what u claim…snooop dog and xzibit are from the D…but they dont claim that shit until they come to town
April 26th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Currently listening to murda muzik
April 26th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
Plug industries AKA the Regulator:
good job. I couldn’t have said it better myself
April 26th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Yeah i saw Snoop talking about how the D was his home, but then i thought to myself “aint he from Long Beach?” I think he said it on some show during the Superbowl.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
@ plug …Damn you right…I fought it for as long as i could but when snap became considered Hip Hop…I officially became an Old head HAHAHAH
April 26th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
Really the east coast hasnt gone anywhere to have to come back. Shit all these new lil niggas in the game I mean hwo can they bring back shit? To bring back the old new york u need the rappers to start doin they thang again. Raekwon bout to drop soon, LL still does his thang, I dont hate on Dip set but they do they thang too. Even tho they are probably the niggas in NY hate. But I mean Wu tang dont drop no more, BIggie is dead, Pun is dead. All they gotta do is start droppin albums again and its on and poppin. Maybe do a few collabos wit niggas from the south and the west and its all hood
April 26th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
Really the east coast hasnt gone anywhere to have to come back. Shit all these new lil niggas in the game I mean how can they bring back shit? To bring back the old new york u need the rappers to start doin they thang again. Raekwon bout to drop soon, LL still does his thang, I dont hate on Dip set but they do they thang too. Even tho they are probably the niggas in NY hate. But I mean Wu tang dont drop no more, BIggie is dead, Pun is dead. All they gotta do is start droppin albums again and its on and poppin. Maybe do a few collabos wit niggas from the south and the west and its all hood
April 26th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
no disrespect eskay, but nelly is as southern as they come and so is chingy nad twista. St louis is a very southern city, its well below the mason dixon line…to be honest even though they wouldn’t admit it the clipse are from the south…virgnia was the capital of the confederate states for crying out loud…
April 26th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
I Predict 3x platinum thread (at the least). as Jay-Z said on vol 3
IT’S BOUT TO GET REAL UGLY IN HERE
April 26th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Stephen C. Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
no disrespect eskay, but nelly is as southern as they come and so is chingy nad twista. St louis is a very southern city, its well below the mason dixon line…to be honest even though they wouldn’t admit it the clipse are from the south…virgnia was the capital of the confederate states for crying out loud…
^^^
Even if you consider them southern, does Missouri? No.
April 26th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
Stephen C. Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
no disrespect eskay, but nelly is as southern as they come and so is chingy nad twista. St louis is a very southern city, its well below the mason dixon line…to be honest even though they wouldn’t admit it the clipse are from the south…virgnia was the capital of the confederate states for crying out loud
SURE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS SOUTHERN MUSIC IF YOUR JUST GROUPING ALL TRASH MUSIC AND CALLING IT SOUTHERN MUSIC BUT THERE IS ALOT OF SOUTH SHIT BETTER THAN NELLY AND CHINGY, BUT THOSE DUDES ARE MIDWEST SO IS EM LUPE KANYE ALL OF THEM IS MIDWEST NOT EAST NOT NORTH AND DAMN SURE NOT SOUTH
April 26th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Stephen,
I’m not buying that Nelly and them are Southern shit. Just cuz they talk with an accent? They claim the midwest, not the South period. and who would want to claim them anyway? and who ever said the Clipse weren’t from the South? I know damn well they’re from VA and I love them niggas no homo, cuz they make real hip hop.
Plug and fuk-ny I’ll be back for you niggas in a minute
April 26th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
Well well well, what we have here today is the plantion on bestowed on the information,
the calculation of the caucasion traveling towards displacement, See, see, we got to reunite the invite to Get Right, you see, you see, Our young black youths are fighting over the trivial, from the imperial, when they kids dont even have cereal.
We we got to do something about this. Hip Hop, is the essence of that lashing out of the poverty of disindigenous people who have been enslaved from the cradle to the grave, but they just end up in the grave.
We got to come together to be one, to seize one, in order to please one.
Thank you.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
# eskay Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Stephen,
I’m not buying that Nelly and them are Southern shit. Just cuz they talk with an accent? They claim the midwest, not the South period. and who would want to claim them anyway? and who ever said the Clipse weren’t from the South? I know damn well they’re from VA and I love them niggas no homo, cuz they make real hip hop.
Plug and fuk-ny I’ll be back for you niggas in a minute
Who would want to claim NY?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Eskay seems to be in denial on my theory of getting old. I know that AZ and Papoose hit home to him…..as it was supposed to. It was directed toward him. face it dude. times have changed I know i’m old……no one I know likes Canibus. Some don’t even know who MC Eiht or Spice 1 is.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:14 pm
Umm… to be TECHNICAL (notice that’s in caps), the Clipse were born and raised in the BX until a very young age THEN moved to VA. But hey, don’t take my word for it. Do the research yourself.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:14 pm
>>Who would want to claim NY?
^ I don’t know, ask Lil Wayne
April 26th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
“If you’re gonna talk shit then talk it, but don’t try to cop plea after you see a backlash brewing” try telling that shit to your boy the Doja Lame Gayme!
April 26th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
YO ALL SOUTH HATERS WHO TALKING ABOUT ALBUMS SALES 90 PERCENT OF THE SOUTH RECORDS ARE RELEASED ON INDEPENDENT LABELS IF YOU GETTING AT LEAST 8 DOLLARS AN ALBUM WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT PLATINUM STATUS YALL STILL DONT GET IT THE ONLY NEWYORK ARTIST GETTING MONEY IS 50 CENT NEWYORK ARTIST CANT MAKE SHIT UNLESS THEY GO PLATINUM IF THEY SALE 300,000 IN NEWYORK ITS A FLOP BUT IN THE SOUTH THATS MONEY SO FUCK A PLAQUE IT DONT MEAN SHIT IF YOU BROKE
April 26th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
Plug, you talk alot of shit cuz for the most part our tastes in music are very similar. but you like to bring up AZ all the time like thats the guy NY is claiming as the best rapper ever. truth is AZ is better than your favorite rapper I’m sure and better than 98% of the niggas in the South. disagree with me? so what thats my opinion.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
ALSO TI 500,000 SOLD ONE WEEK ON A INDEPENDENT LABEL COUNT IT UP THATS PURE MONEY
April 26th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
Well well we all come from the same place, from the same race, fighting the same case,
Whether if you from the north or the south east or west, we got to mesh, we got to stay fresh to death, do it to death,
With one last breath, we got to reunite to invite to get right.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
yeah AZ is better than bout 98 percent of the rappers in the north.
Can I get an Amen? Hallelujah
April 26th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
>>90 PERCENT OF THE SOUTH RECORDS ARE RELEASED ON INDEPENDENT LABELS IF YOU GETTING AT LEAST 8 DOLLARS AN ALBUM
Ahh the 8 dollar an album myth. negro please
>>ALSO TI 500,000 SOLD ONE WEEK ON A INDEPENDENT LABEL COUNT IT UP THATS PURE MONEY
^T.I. ain’t on no independent label doggie
April 26th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
TAYLOW FROM THE M TOWN Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
ALSO TI 500,000 SOLD ONE WEEK ON A INDEPENDENT LABEL COUNT IT UP THATS PURE MONEY
UMMMMH DUMBASS T.I. DROPPED ON ATLANTIC, THATS A MAJOR HOMIE NOT NO INDEPENDY
April 26th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
how would “lets bring back newyork” be a dis to the south saying fuck the south!?! if it was then when Game was all on t.v. saying “lets put the west back” then he was probably dissing the south OR newyork. and when snoop dogg said “lets put the west back too when he was trying to bring all west coast artist who had beef together. and as we all know snoop dogg played a major part in the east vs. west war. he even said that “we takin’ back what yall took from us, with interest.” again maybe he was talking about the south OR newyork. and when he said that and lets bring back new york he said that with a straight face.
now why wasn’t it all this pandamonium when TWO really well known west coast rappers said lets bring back whoever, but when an underground, not even well known east coast artist said that its world war 3. can some body please answer that.
and to Stephen C. if virginia isn’t a southern state, then west virginia isn’t either because virginia and west virginia is more south than west virginia is.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
eskay Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
>>90 PERCENT OF THE SOUTH RECORDS ARE RELEASED ON INDEPENDENT LABELS IF YOU GETTING AT LEAST 8 DOLLARS AN ALBUM
Ahh the 8 dollar an album myth. negro please
YEA AND SO WHAT SHEEK JIM JONES M.O.P. ALL CAME OUT ON KOCH LAST YEAR SO I GUESS THAT MEANS NY IS RUNNING IT
April 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
*sighs*
eskay, az WAS…..WAS better than 98% WAS……..
I know. How yall feel about AZ. I just like to use him as an example of how East hip hop heads try to hold on to something that has came and went. We can use papoose, nas, rakim, canibus ect. It doesnt change the fact that none of them have mad a good album in at least 3 years.
“Mike tyson is better than 98% of the boxers out there…”
See how silly that sounds.
“Mike Tyson WAS….WAS better than 98% of the boxers out there…”
Doesn’t that sound better.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
I be I be I be on that kryptonite, oooh mami gon suck a dick tonight.
this is the language thou shall not use, this is the language thou shall not abuse, this is the language thou shall not excuse.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
now as for fuc-ny you little bitch listen up.
>>When the hole Saigon shit happend u immediately went to his defense; saying oh he’s only saying what everyone was thinking
^^If you knew what the fuck you were talking about, you would know that I criticised Saigon for his remarks because he generalized. don’t believe me? go back and check.
And there’s a big difference between “Fuck NY” and “bring new York back” dog.
>>We give two fucks if u don’t like the music, if u think we fuckin up the rap game
^ yeah and we could give a fuck if ya’ll aint feeling our shit. so what?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
If I may step down from the pulpit, excuse me church.
I’m gon have to smack this nigga plug , oohh lord scuze me for my langwich
Check Out Awol - Plug- You have been exiled from the church of Nah right, making a blasphemous statement.
Az’s Awol was a classic, one of the best records released in the last 5 years, his best work.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
>>Who would want to claim NY?
^ how about asking Young Jeezy, huh?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
*puts on Big Puns 2nd cd*
*tears page out of bible*
*roles dojah in bible paper*
*lights bible blunt*
*blows smoke in Jessem Jacksons face*
*puts L out on Jessem Jacksons Forehead*
April 26th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Plug,
None of them except Nas have even dropped an album in the last 3 years so how could they have not dropped a good album?
And whatever, if there was a Rap Supwebowl I’d put Nas, Pap, Saigon and Rakim against 4 artists from wherever, anytime anyday and thats all that matters to me.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
Scuze me again church, I got to step out of the sanctuary on this one. We gon have to pull the plug out of the church and go old school .
*Tonight we gon have a tent meeting, where I will be preaching that old school Gospel*
now that I pulled the plug out.
How is AZ was? He just dropped a monster of an album.
I want a good God explanation
You are getting buzz mixed up with skills, Az had his run, but he is still hot. Like Nas Had his peak and his run, but he is still the best. Just like In basketball, You can have your popularity deflate, but you can still be one of the best, like J-kidd, shaq, etc. It’s just new talent that people are heavy on.
Can I get an Amen?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
correction- I didnt mean to say nas was the best just using it as a statement
April 26th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
also, Southern Boi had some very good points. How come the West doesn’t catch flack for talking that same shit?
I’ll tell you why. Cuz they aren’t those Evil New Yorkers who can never admit when another region is doing well and secretly walk around hating everything.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
es, My point is just like basketball players get old. They have to move out the was for the new generation, Lupe, Kanye, T.I….. Nas and Rakim, canibus are my ALL TIME FAVS, but they haven’t said or done anything worth listening to .
April 26th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
To be fair, is anyone gonna post the NY artist figures from 03′ to ‘06?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
Stephen posted them Urbonics
April 26th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
Rev. Jessem jockson Says
You are getting buzz mixed up with skills, Az had his run, but he is still hot. Like Nas Had his peak and his run, but he is still the best. Just like In basketball, You can have your popularity deflate, but you can still be one of the best, like J-kidd, shaq, etc. It’s just new talent that people are heavy on.
>>>>>>You literally took the words from my mouf. What happened when Jordan came back that last time…..He made a fool of himself. He is the best plyer to have ever played, but he is not the best player playing
April 26th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
Plug industries AKA the Regulator Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
“….We can use papoose, nas, rakim, canibus, etc. It doesnt change the fact that none of them has made a good album in at least 3 years….”
^^ the reason why none of them has even made a good album inat least three is because most os the name you said hasn’t made any albums in three fucking years.
and because most people even know two of the arstist you just said you dumb fuck!!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
these sales vs credibility arguments are the same ones i heard in the east coast/west coast arguments from 93 to 97.
April 26th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
so Plug, you think if real NY vets come back out they’re gonna put up bricks? Jay and Nas don’t still have it?
April 26th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
>>Stephen posted them Urbonics
thanx, missed that while scrolling thru so many responses
April 26th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
excuse me dont even know
April 26th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
southern boi Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
Plug industries AKA the Regulator Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
“….We can use papoose, nas, rakim, canibus, etc. It doesnt change the fact that none of them has made a good album in at least 3 years….â€
^^ the reason why none of them has even made a good album inat least three is because most os the name you said hasn’t made any albums in three fucking years.
and because most people even know two of the arstist you just said you dumb fuck!!!!
______________________________________________
Watch your mouf before I smack you in it. Grown folks are talkin.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
>>thanx, missed that while scrolling thru so many responses
yeah I do my numbers. I think I get more comments than some Down South artists sell units.
*kidding*
April 26th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
no I am saying that even at Jordan not at his best he is still better than a lot of niggas. Ya Dig? Can I get an Amen
Nas is not at his peak But Nam one Rapper From the South who is better than Nas?
Name one Better than Jay?
Name One better than Rakim?
Name one better than KRS ONe?
See while some might still have an old school style because their peak was in another time area they are still better than a lot of niggas.
Like John Stockton, Him and Karl was old school and was easily top ten in the Jordan era, But you had KG, AI, Duncan, and others coming out strong with a buzz, but Karl and Stockon were still better.
Only a few people can HAve a BUZZ for so long, but a lot of people can be great for a long time.
Can I get an Amen and a checkmate?
In you face, nigga in yo face!!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
I have said it before and i’ll say it again, while NY was on cruise control the rest of the country caught up. As much as I love NY music, their just isn’t anything coming from there that knocks me off my chair.
I remember what it was like to hear dudes like Pun, Jay, Nas,and the WU for the first time. Nothing coming out of NY right now gives me that feeling. Hell I wanted to be like EPMD, now The NY is not even trendsetting.
Stop following the trends and get back to being ya’ll self.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
es, Jay still has the love for the game. Nas doesnt put his heart in it. He fell off on Nastrodmis. He had a challenge and regained skills on Stillmatic. His moms died during God son so he had something to talk about and prove. Street disciples shouldve been concentrate to 10 songs. He doesnt have the want to rap. he doent know who or what to talk about ie Kanye’s cd he said it. Ghost still has the luster. you see all over his album.
Es, exactlly what vets are you talking about.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Nas is not at his peak But Nam one Rapper From the South who is better than Nas?
Name one Better than Jay?
Name One better than Rakim?
Name one better than KRS ONe?
^^AMEN!
But yo MadeInMilwaukee, nobody from the South moves me so what are we saying? the only non-ny niggas moving me right now are Chi-town artists to be honest.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
plug I’m talking about Jay, Nas, Rae etc. and I’m not talking about sales, I mean dope music.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
True but do you agreed withthe rest of what Im saying?
April 26th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
ES, You New York niggas are still being moved by the past. Except J because he is the best that did it. If yall niggas wasnt moved by Bum B album Yall trippin. TI urban legend. I love rae but his last album was alright at most. Immobilarity was classic but that was 99. Nas Street disciples was GARBAGE. The best song on that album was the one talkin about upn. HE MAD A SONG WIT HIS POPS. THAT SHIT WASNT HIP HOP.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Bum B > Nas
Ti > RAe
Jay> the whole souf
April 26th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
Hol’ on hol’on, man, when you say TI>Rae, what criteria do you use to say that?
April 26th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
I was bawn and raised in the south, Held my church tent meeting in the south.
This is only a proven Economic cycle. Let me take you To Economics 101
Things rotate in a circle for a long time. The South has a Buzz, you got to take it for what its worth. They are the hot thing right now. West had its buzz, East had its buzz. Its a cycle.
It doesnt mean that since you are wildly popular at the moment that you are now better Hence David Beckham. Can I get an Amen?
Top Sellers are 50 and Game, The east will say, The south can gladly claim 50 now, cause niggas dont want him. We’ll take dead prez and Face instead.
It’s all music. This is no different than in my day with the blues. You got that missippi down home delta blues, and that Joeja Blues, and that tennessee blues and then you got That Yankee- bluebelly - chicago piece of crap they call blues.
It aint no different younguns different era same topic.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
foe, Present criteria. Going by there two latest cd’s. Remember i likes rae(no homo). But ti latest cd was one day sweeter than raes.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
We gon have to pull the plug once again
Should I do it ya’ll? should I do it?
Can I get a witness up in here? I said can I get a witness?
Holler if ya hear me.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
I don’t know how you can compare Bum B to Nas, you wilin’ on that one. PLEASE EXPLAIN
April 26th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
MadeInMilwaukee, yeah I feel you no homo.
Bum B > Nas
^plug you must be out ya goddam mind and I’m a Bun B fan but I don’t care how good Trill was Nas >>> Bun B
April 26th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
Maybe this would be better…..
Trill > Street disciples
April 26th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Urban Legends > Lex Diamond story
April 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Bring NY back is not really hating but having pride in where we come from…Don’t take it personal people..NYC is not only the birthplace , the orginator , essence , etc.. I think NY rappers are saying that cause they ain’t getting any airplay because of all this new music people are labeling hip hop..South is killing it right now, radio wise and shit, NY dudes are a lil’ hating but in a good way…
See NY is fucked up cause everyone for a minute was battling eachother for the so called King…That’s when everyone else snuck in the back door…I think “Bring Ny back” is just a movemnet to bring back that pure Hip Hop..Shit, I hope that’s what it’s all about…
sidenote: for me, the only person I like from the south is Luda…
April 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
@Plug
That’s better.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
“Lex Diamond Story” What cd is that? Never heard of it
April 26th, 2006 at 4:38 pm
@ foe
excactly.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
lol!
April 26th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
>>Trill > Street disciples
^ I can’t really argue with that cuz I hated SD.
>>Urban Legends > Lex Diamond story
^ I’m not familiar enough with UL to comment (I’m more of a Trap Musik kinda guy) but I doubt it. T.I. can’t be better than Rae on GP.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
From 04 to 06
50 CENT THE MASSACRE 12/16/05 Multi-Platinum 5)
JAY-Z AND LINKIN PARK COLLISION COURSE 07/19/05 Platinum
JAY-Z THE BLACK ALBUM 08/16/05 Multi-Platinum (3)
NOTORIOUS B.I.G. DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER 02/03/06 Gold
GHOSTFACE KILLAH IRONMA02/09/Platinum
CASSIDY SPLIT PERSONALITY 04/19/04Gold
L.L. COOL J 10 06/30/04 Gold
L.L. COOL J THE DEFINITION 10/05/04 Gold
BANKS, LLOYD THE HUNGER FOR MORE 09/09/04 Platinum
SHYNE GODFATHER…BURIED ALIVE 12/01/04 Gold
METHOD MAN TICAL 0: THE PREQUEL 12/02/04 Gold
MASE WELCOME BACK 11/01/04 Gold
CAM’RON PURPLE HAZE 01/14/05 Gold
SANTANA, JUELZ WHAT THE GAME’S BEEN MISSING 01/03/06 Gold
50 cent never outsold the whole south…just stating facts…the south has been consistently selling a great number of records for the past 3 or 4 years. 4 years ago the market completely changed and became heavily influenced by the south…their dialect, music production, and collaborations have been in high request ever since. First it was atlanta, then st louis, then atlanta again, then houston, and now miami…lil’jon, timberland, David Banner, and Mr. Collipark have been in heavy rotation…The southern influence in these past couple of years have generated so much money for the industry, everyone wants a piece from mtv to bet…the south “pummled” all regions and genres of music…they even had r & b on lock…Ciara, Usher, Beyonce, Chris Brown…I say all this to say, I can understand why NY says they wanna bring the attention back to NY…the south is shinning and Ny misses that shine, but who wouldn’t…but what i don’t respect is when people don’t give credit when its due…I’m probably the most liberal southern rap fan on these boards…i don’t go around screaming fuck ny, cause thats stupid…but all this 50 Cent outsold the whole south and southern acts arent’t sellin…that crazy…do the math…Lupe fiasco is the shit. 1
April 26th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
^ I’m not familiar enough with UL to comment (I’m more of a Trap Musik kinda guy) but I doubt it. T.I. can’t be better than Rae on GP.
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Diggity ditto. All I know is I can’t wait to post up and watch the Pistons with a spliff in hand.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:42 pm
Finally eskay is opening his eyes. I can go home in peace now.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
@ plug
Nas would lyrically bitch-slap and/or Tea Bag Bun B…and Bun B is the shit to me, but that comment is just out of line
April 26th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
@ eskay:
New York will always feel it is the premier region in hip hop and so will the South. We should be spending this time and energy doing something constructive rather than bickering over greasy comments and creatively edited DVD’s.
^^ I agree with you on that…
better than Nas?
Name one Better than Jay?
Name One better than Rakim?
Name one better than KRS ONe?
Scarface…Outkast (andre & big boi)…lil’ wayne…MJG(from eighball & mjg)…
>>And whatever, if there was a Rap Supwebowl I’d put Nas, Pap, Saigon and Rakim against 4 artists from wherever, anytime anyday and thats all that matters to me.
Give me: Scarface, Andre 3000, lil’ wayne, and i let you pick someone for saigon…
dont take this personal its just a clean debate my brother…
April 26th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
I’D LOVE TO SEE NY COME BACK CAUSE ID LOVE TO HEAR GOOD MUSIC AGAIN, I MISS THE FEELING OF RUNNIN TO THE STORE TO COP AN ALBUM.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
One thing I’ll have to add is that someone made a good point earlier when they compared the hip hop game to sports. In the rap game I think artists reach their peak as well, not necessarily in ability (major difference between music and sports), but in creativity, and also HUNGER. For instance, if DMX.. okay, bad example… Method Man. Everything that nigga puts out is Grade B shit, that could NEVER match what he did on Tical.
When you start driving what you wanna drive, startin ya own little crew and label, and have people eatin out of your hand wherever you go, it’s HARD to keep the drive to put out quality music like you had when you were starving.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
(If ya’ll run shit the way you claim you do, why even worry about what others are saying? Is it that serious that you have to pick apart and analyze such an innocent statement in order to find an insult?)
Hmmmm..so esgay…sorry eskay, you’re saying it’s a simple statement and we shouldn’t get bent all out of shape about it. So first of all why do you have a problem with the name i choose. (i.e. fuc-ny), secondly When the hole Saigon shit happend u immediately went to his defense; saying oh he’s only saying what everyone was thinking and all that other bullshit that came out ya raggedy ass mouth. Well, Cot dammit, they saying what everyone else was thinking too. But for some odd reason u seem to have taken sensitive to the situation. Basically, you’re so full of hipocracy that u don’t even see it. Honestly, read what the fuck u put up there and see how many times u contradict yourself. “We reppin our region, but fuck snap musicâ€. “We make fun of southern slang too, but still……â€. Come on dude! We do what we do down here. Period. We give two fucks if u don’t like the music, if u think we fuckin up the rap game with our “music with no messageâ€(which is so stupid cause when yall had the gameand was rappin that gangsta shit bout killin and killin and murderin and shooting babies nobody said shit, so shut the fuck up!), or whatever u think. Work on “Bringin New York Backâ€, aight. Oh and eskay please don’t respond to this because “it’s just some innocent statementsâ€! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got a hundred gunz a hundred clipz, nigga i’m from GA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
I had to repost it. It’s so true!
April 26th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
NAS STREET’S DISCIPLE 11/18/05 COLUMBIA Platinum
April 26th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
@ Stephen C.
50 cent never outsold the whole south…just stating facts…the south has been consistently selling a great number of records for the past 3 or 4 years. 4 years ago the market completely changed and became heavily influenced by the south…their dialect, music production, and collaborations have been in high request ever since. First it was atlanta, then st louis, then atlanta again, then houston, and now miami…lil’jon, timberland, David Banner, and Mr. Collipark have been in heavy rotation…The southern influence in these past couple of years have generated so much money for the industry, everyone wants a piece from mtv to bet…the south “pummled†all regions and genres of music…they even had r & b on lock…Ciara, Usher, Beyonce, Chris Brown…I say all this to say, I can understand why NY says they wanna bring the attention back to NY…the south is shinning and Ny misses that shine, but who wouldn’t…but what i don’t respect is when people don’t give credit when its due…I’m probably the most liberal southern rap fan on these boards…i don’t go around screaming fuck ny, cause thats stupid…but all this 50 Cent outsold the whole south and southern acts arent’t sellin…that crazy…do the math…Lupe fiasco is the shit. 1
^^^I agree with that my nigga…Lupe fiasco is hot as hell…
April 26th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
>>50 cent never outsold the whole south
^ I don’t think anybody ever said that. Usually when I bring up 50 its in comparison to the rest of the albums that dropped in 2005. Alot of people act like NY can’t sell records anymore and so we have to remind them that the top selling artist last year was 50.
I know damn well he didn’t single handedly outsell everybody down South, that would be ridiculous. And frankly I’m not really all that impressed by those Southern sales you posted, especially after subtracting the midwest artists. Sure niggas are doing well but not well enough to be talking the shit ya’lll talk. at the end of the day we (well I) am happy for ya’ll I really am, it’s just when the shit talk starts that I have to talk my own shit ya know?
But whatever, like I said need to squash all of this shit, it’s getting tired already….
April 26th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
NO DISS TO THE SOUTH BUT THE SONGS THAT THEY PLAY ON THE RADIO IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY SONG ON THE ALBUM THATS WORTH LISTENIN TO, AND THEY PLAY IT EVERY 5MINS ON THE RADIO SO THERES NO POINT IN BUYIN THE ALBUM, THATS WHY YOULL DONT SELL MUCH, AND THEN THE ALBUMS BE LIKE 40MINS LONG,COME ON.
SHOUT OUTS TO OUTKAST, LUDA, T.I, ITS NOT AN EAST OR SOUTH THING, ITS JUST BOUT GOOD MUSIC, BOTTOM LINE.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
*instigates*
>>THE SONGS THAT THEY PLAY ON THE RADIO IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY SONG ON THE ALBUM THATS WORTH LISTENIN TO
^^damn he played ya’ll out! whatcha got to say about that?
*disagrees*
*thinks they play the worst songs on the radio*
April 26th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
oh plug dont think that i left i just had to handle some business real quik. nigga you aint grown you just a bitch nigga that cant get his facts straight cause he aint got shit to prove it. keep my name out ya mouth now before your ass get slapped all up in it bitch.
April 26th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
@ eskay,
>>tyronebiggums71 Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
“…Besides them, only Jeezy, Paul Waul, and like 1 or 2 more Southern
rappers went platinum… Meanwhile 5-0 himself(I aint a big fan of his current music, just stating facts) outsold the whole southern area… BUT NY IS FALLING OFF…”
OUTKAST SPEAKERBOXXX / THE LOVE BELOW 12/03/04 Multi-Platinum(10)
>>>>outkast punished 50 cent
(list revised)
YOUNG JEEZY LET’S GET IT 9/29/2005 Platinum
T.I. URBAN LEGEND 03/03/05 Platinum
YING YANG TWINS U.S.A.: 08/25/05 Platinum
JUVENILE JUVE THE GREAT 07/20/04 Platinum
LIL’ FLIP U GOTTA FEEL ME 08/18/04 Platinum
LIL’ JON & TEB KINGS OF CRUNK 08/04/04 Multi-Platinum (2) {*corrected}
LUDACRIS THE RED LIGHT DISTRICT 01/14/05 Platinum
JONES, MIKE WHO IS MIKE JONES? 06/03/05 Platinum
WALL, PAUL THE PEOPLE’S CHAMP 10/18/05 Platinum
YOUNG BUCK STRAIGHT OUTTA CASHVILLE 01/26/05 Platinum
April 26th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
eskay Says:
*disagrees*
*thinks they play the worst songs on the radio*
YOUR RIGHT,
BUT THOSE ARE THE SONGS THAT GETS THEM THEIR SALES.
BUT IF YOU ARE DUMB ENUFF TO BUY THE ALBUM, THEIR NUTTIN ELSE ON THERE TO LISTENIN TO.
YOU’LL GOT BUBBA SPARKS TO ANSWER FOR.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:01 pm
>>LIL’ JON & TEB KINGS OF CRUNK 08/04/04 Multi-Platinum (2) {*corrected}
^^thank you cuz I was like where the fuck was I when that idiot sold 10 million.
ok, with that list revised I’ll admit you guys sold some records, but I still don’t think ya’ll have earned the right to talk the amount of shit ya’ll talk.
Can I see a revised NY list for that same time period?
April 26th, 2006 at 5:02 pm
and that 50 quote was from Biggums not me
April 26th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
>>>>outkast punished 50 cent
a lil overstated,it was a double album.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Lupe Fiasco June 27
That’s about all Im waiting to hear!!
April 26th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
NOTORIOUS B.I.G. DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER 02/03/06 Gold
SOMEONE MAKE PUFFY GIVE BIGGIE’S MOM HIS MASTER’S,PLEASE.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
MadeInMilwaukee Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Lupe Fiasco June 27
That’s about all Im waiting to hear!!
CHURCH
April 26th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
MadeInMilwaukee Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Lupe Fiasco June 27
That’s about all Im waiting to hear!!
CHURCH
April 26th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
@ HipHop 101
>>SHOUT OUTS TO OUTKAST, LUDA, T.I, ITS NOT AN EAST OR SOUTH THING, ITS JUST BOUT GOOD MUSIC, BOTTOM LINE.
^^I agree with that shit…
April 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
>>outkast punished 50 cent
a lil overstated,it was a double album.
^thank you. and when you consider that, actually 50 sold more. I hate 50 and I love Kast, but I’m just saying
April 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
speaking of outkast tho, them and luda are the only acts from the south with a careers worth of multi-platinum albums. It’ll be a while b4 an southern act will be as well recieved commercially and critically as say, the black album or move 5 to 6 million like get rich or die tryin.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
>>Lupe Fiasco June 27
That’s about all Im waiting to hear!!
CHURCH
^Tabernacle
April 26th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
Outkast, best thing the south ever did… big ups to luda, goodie mob, david banner, lil jon, lil scrappy, 8ball & MJG and erykah badu
April 26th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
AND HOW MANY OF THEM SOUTH ARTIST WERE WE TALKIN BOUT 5 YEAR AGO OR WILL BE TALKING BOUT 5 YEARS FROM NOW?
April 26th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
and its more than slightly unfair to weight the sales of artists from THREE major metropolitan areas (memphis,atlanta, and houston) against the sales of acts from ONE (new york).
April 26th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
Rev. Jessem jockson Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
Scuze me again church, I got to step out of the sanctuary on this one. We gon have to pull the plug out of the church and go old school .
*Tonight we gon have a tent meeting, where I will be preaching that old school Gospel*
now that I pulled the plug out.
How is AZ was? He just dropped a monster of an album.
I want a good God explanation
You are getting buzz mixed up with skills, Az had his run, but he is still hot. Like Nas Had his peak and his run, but he is still the best. Just like In basketball, You can have your popularity deflate, but you can still be one of the best, like J-kidd, shaq, etc. It’s just new talent that people are heavy on.
Can I get an Amen?
AMEN
that j-kidd az comparison was nice too, cause yea j-kidd aint qht he used to be but he is still a top 3 point guard in the league still gets more trip doubs than anyone and still does his job better than anyone but because he isnt what he once was he gets slept on, and its a little off because really az aint far off from his best shit like dude said awol was a crazy nice album but az isnt as big as he was then ( because back in the day we liked actual rap * and thast not directed at you plug this is one of the few areas we disagree on * and now its become poppy so real rap the ones who dont conform to the machine they get pushed to the back.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
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April 26th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
gotta bust out for 2-3 hours so i’ll say this.
NO TAKEBACKS
motherfuckers got me on my 2nd grade shit. god i love new york. the very mention of the city strikes fear in the hearts of all other rappers. how can you not be proud to be from here.
*puts on Papoosse - Born In New York City*
April 26th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
cyde hustla Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
@ eskay:
New York will always feel it is the premier region in hip hop and so will the South. We should be spending this time and energy doing something constructive rather than bickering over greasy comments and creatively edited DVD’s.
^^ I agree with you on that…
better than Nas?
Name one Better than Jay?
Name One better than Rakim?
Name one better than KRS ONe?
Scarface…Outkast (andre & big boi)…lil’ wayne…MJG(from eighball & mjg)…
>>And whatever, if there was a Rap Supwebowl I’d put Nas, Pap, Saigon and Rakim against 4 artists from wherever, anytime anyday and thats all that matters to me.
Give me: Scarface, Andre 3000, lil’ wayne, and i let you pick someone for saigon…
dont take this personal its just a clean debate my brother…
bet id gaur-an-damn-tee it would be a wrap not even close i love FACE dudes all time great ( would get eaten alive in a battle though ) andre 3000 personally i perfer big boi but whatever take which ever you want, and you say take whoever i want for saigon ummmh? how bout lil wayne. o wait you already got him on that list ok so you giving me 2 gimmes huh? ill take * laces digital timbs up gets ready for the backlash * JUVE’S garbage ass that will be the second gimmie. I could name like 20 east coast dudes that would roast that lineup
April 26th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
eskay Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
>>Lupe Fiasco June 27
That’s about all Im waiting to hear!!
CHURCH
^Tabernacle
SADA POP!!!
April 26th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
Cyde Hustla, you committed Rap Treason.
Your penalty DEATH
How should we murk him people in the name of the LORD?
Stoning? Bullets to the Dome? No
Death on the CROSS!!!!!!
Can I get an AMEN
April 26th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
@biggums
Hey man Juve aint wack. in a battle though *looks left looks right* i have no comment.
April 26th, 2006 at 5:41 pm
look up the facts bitches the label is grand hustle atlantic is thier distributer grand hustle pays thier own promotion and videos the trap music album was already done when they signed that deal so that means GASP he pay for his own studio time plus he didnt want no money up front believe me ti is pulling down some real money
April 26th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
Eskay:
That what’s wrong with you NY folks; you ride one MF d**k and then the rest of the city don’t eat and when he decides to quit it’s ” Let’s bring NY back!” And instead of looking at it like that the first Nyorkers want to do is act like we done stole your car and we doing donuts in the parking lot in it. And you screaming “Bring my car back!”.
That’s the difference between the south and the east: I think (my opinion) is that we connect with the artist first and not the shit he raps about. There’s a bunch of motherfuckes down south that are killa lyricist but are fake motherfuckers and those are the ones that get strained out before the rest of the world hears them. That’s why only a chosen NY rappers sell down here. Cause we done heard all that shit before. We live that shit down here! We bout that! We rather hear real motherfuckers say it straight than to hear to hear it rapped in metaphors. That’s real talk!
April 26th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
sour d - its like my boy from boston says in the answer to why joint i sent you where he answers jada with
verse 3
JADA’S VERSE
Why Halle have to let a white man pop her to get a Oscar
Why Denzel have to be crooked before he took it
Why they didn’t make the CL6 wit a clutch
And if you don’t smoke why the hell you reachin’ for my dutch
Why rap, cause I need air time
Why be on the curb wit a “Why lie, I need a beer†sign
Why all the young niggaz is dyin’
Cause they moms at work, they pops is gone, they livin’ wit iron
Why they ain’t give us a cure for aids
Why my diesel have fiends in the spot on the floor for days
Why you screamin’ like it’s slug, it’s only the hawk
Why my buzz in L.A. ain’t like it is in New York
Why you forcin’ you to be hard
Why ain’t you a thug by choice
Why the whole world love my voice ”
SEV-ONE’S ANSWER
” because they medias run by a select few/
and that select few/
get to select what you view/
and as far as the CL 6 its too fast as it is/
and i dont know why you bitching i just ask for a hit/
why rap cause ? ITS MY DAMN TIME/
why lie like i aint next line to take all of your mans shine/
kids is dying/
shit kiss you aint lying/
mom’s at work pops gone they livin with iron/
as far as the CURE FOR AIDS YOU SHOULD HOLLA AT MAGIC/
and the right diesal turn a pissy hall to a matress/
slug or the heart shit it reall dont matter/
AND AS LONG AS YOU GOT NEW YORK SHIT IT REALLY DONT MATTER/
yall are trying to hard most thugs aint thigs by choice/
and you real thats why they love your voice/
i try to tell them that its the flow son/
but most of these new rappers styles sound like my old ones
and thats why ” - SEV-ONE
he said “SHIT AS LONG AS YOU GOT NEW YORK IT REALLY DONT MATTER” and he’s from boston probably the one city in america that hates NY the most
April 26th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
Joe 88 Says:
April 26th, 2006 at 5:40 pm