Feds Seek Death Penalty Against ‘Preme

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Lorenzo "Fat Cat Nichols, James "Wall" Corley and Supreme in their heyday 

Damn, I knew the Feds wanted to put ‘Preme under the jail, but I didn’t think it was this serious:

The federal government is officially seeking the death penalty against Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff in his upcoming murder and racketeering case.

Prosecutor Roslynn R. Mauskopf filed a death penalty request notice yesterday (March 22) in the case, which charges McGriff with the murder of Queens, New York, rapper Eric "E Money Bags" Smith and Smith’s associate, Troy Singleton.

"The defendant [McGriff] possesses a risk of future dangerousness as manifested by a continued pattern of violence, lack of remorse and contemporaneous convictions for multiple murders," Mauskopf said.

McGriff is also facing charges for a drug-related double slaying in Owings Mills, Maryland, where police found $30,000 in cash in a stash house allegedly used by McGriff. 

For more on Supreme, his influence on hip hop, and his legacy in Southside Queens see my interview with Ethan Brown author of Queens Reigns Supreme: Fat Cat, 50 Cent, and the Rise of the Hip Hop Hustler.

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104 Responses to “Feds Seek Death Penalty Against ‘Preme”

  1. G-town G Says:

    I just cant help but to wonder if this dude would be on trial if it wasnt for 50 cent… Nah I aint hatin but I mean before 50 started makin songs about him and murder inc., nobody not even the feds gave a damn about this dude and now they tryin to give him the death penalty? WTF?

  2. GET Says:

    In what State is he being Charged in, cause NY doesnt have the Death Penalty.

  3. GET Says:

    G-town G

    The Feds been investigated them since the 80′s

  4. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    its a fed case get doesnt matter what state your in feds can have your ass killed, and this isnt even about 50 being a rat but trust this if 50 never mentioned dudes name in songs they wouldnt still be going after him like this and of course they are pissed they couldnt get irv and ja so now they really have to try ans stick to preme, but lets face it 50 made preme a household name throughout the world not just ny

  5. MaddenMaster Says:

    Personally I don’t know the nigga and I don’t give a fuck about dude!!!! But if they didn’t put Gotti ass to sleep then I’m guessing they can’t put him to sleep…… Eskay: great fucking pic where did you get it??? I don’t consider preme a good nigga by no means and even though there is a lot of good to be said aout that old school mentality versus this new gang bullshit I can’t respect anybody that gets emotional and gets rappers killed for fucking nothing so fuck’em……… The 50 shoothing was dumb and point less, and the murder of E was just fucking wrong!!!! Hes been in busines for over 20 years and as we all know all good things must come to an end… Its the end of an era and I’m not sure if a new improved era is replacing it….

    And before you infants go and blame all of this on 50 read a fucking book!!! Dude fucked himself and was living very wrong… Them damn Feds had they eye on dude for the last 15 years and now they got him….

  6. eskay Says:

    yeah I’m pretty sure Biggums is right, it’s a federal Death Penalty case not state.

  7. MaddenMaster Says:

    Preme name was on Nas first lbum did Nas make him a houshold name? Jay spoke about him and so did big so I guess they were involved to right??? What if E Money would have lived and said dude name? But before we go that far lets review why dude was really mad, that 50 line was no more of less worse than what niggas had already said about dude on wax so the snitch part I don’t get…… Its not like he tape recorded Preme and played it on a dvd like some other people we can’t call snitches!!! cough cough jada…

  8. eskay Says:

    yo Madden, not saying Preme was a good dude by any means, but you know your just mad cuz he tried to kill your idol

  9. E From BK Says:

    I don’t know a whole lot about this guy. Where can I find out more about the cases? There was more than one correct?

  10. MaddenMaster Says:

    Not at all…… I’m mad he tried to kill another man over some punk ass shit… Thats a bitch move….. My little brother took 5 to the back feb 20th 2005 from some bitch mad ass emotional nigga…. I don’t respect them!!!! PERIOD!!!! BUT BUT again he took a battle on wax and tried to take a mans life over it and thats respected….. come on man!!!! Thats some bitch made ass shit… All the stuff they went through to set this no name nigga up who only had one single prior to his shooting is crazy!!!! but thats cool!!!! emotional men………………… OK!!

    Fuck all them bitch made ass niggas and fuck any bitch ass, wannabe following ass nigga that wanna respect it…….. Shit Ja flat out said on a diss record to 50 that preme set dude up, 50 only hinted toward it and now that this trial is just about to start whos lines dod you think will be more important?

  11. E From BK Says:

    I feel your pain MaddenMaster. Cats fuckin’ up the community through violence.

  12. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    maddenmaster you will never ever be taken serious by anyone as long as you keep calling jada, jada-snitch, when people come up with jokes on here you see people big up them or start rocking it and in the past 3 weeks you have been calling him that not one other person has ran with it. your riding the short bus again homie the one for the slow kids, except your the only one on this bus not even luis or nyc are on that small of a bus

  13. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    and also madden im not saying preme is locked up because of 50 im just saying the feds have defintely started paying more attention to him since 50 came out talking about him. white suburban kids know about this dude and some might idolize him for what he did and what he represents so the feds will work harder to make sure he gets the most punishment possible

  14. GET Says:

    Thanks for answering my ?

  15. MaddenMaster Says:

    And it should be respect? THATS WHAT KILLS ME!!! So I say fuck that nigga, and fuck all these wannabe thug gang claiming niggas……. And not only are cats fucking up the community through violence they also fucking up the community through fear all these bitch made ass niggas that agree with these so called rules are just little pussies scared to be they own man!!! thats why if one person does something in the hood everybody do it, if somebody buys a stop snitchin shit everybody does it….. BUT LETS SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN WHEN YA FUCKING BLOOD DEAD OVER NOTHING… FUCKING COWARDS!!! You can load up the mini van and ride all night and it won’t matter.. Revenge only creates revenge and I know I didn’t have a killer mind until I got that call……..

    and yall jersey niggas can check ya fucking stats feb. 20th 2005 Irvington murder…. was my little brother and not the nigga in the hood I call my brother, but the nigga that I shared bath water with as a little dude!!!

  16. MaddenMaster Says:

    I hear what you saying 50 did draw attention to dude but but but wouldn’t it be safe to say that since he set 50 up to get shot that he drew attention to himself??? You get what I’m saying? Had he never sent a professional leg shoother to kill dude then dude would probably not be any where near as big as he is today!!! So in all actuality dude was begging to be caught up!!!

    And when Pac got shot he flat out screamed the dude that shot him name out on wax and nobody called him a snitch and somehow it was considered wrong to shoot pac but when the same thing happens to 50 and he don’t even directly finger preme he’s in the wrong…… now I know you fucking curtis but seriously honestly be a rational man for once does that make sense?? seriously?

  17. AGeezee Says:

    Well you know that Ghost is said to be the biggest drug dealer out of the Wu (him and Rae, source: the “Wu Manual”)… Could there be a relation? “SUPREME CLIENTELE”?

  18. AGeezee Says:

    A good article about where all this began….

    http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/features/n_9562/index1.html

  19. MaddenMaster Says:

    I dont know….. never researched it but you got some links?? niggas always say 50 ruined rap with melody and hook but when I was a kid we had this rapper known as Slick Rick who had crazy style and sick melody and he made this song called “Hey Young World” and in that song he said “Hey Little Kids dont follow these dopes…….. Get ahead and accomplish thing and you’ll see the wonder and the joy life brings” maybe I’m the oldest nigga on this board but thats real hip hop to me…. And thats the shit I respect but everybody forgot about that shit right?

  20. MaddenMaster Says:

    And now black folks aint suppose to want shit…. but yo let me take the maturity outta this thread because usually those threads don’t go plat…. so please proceed with the bullshit…. lets make it completely reckless

  21. eskay Says:

    Not for nothing Madden, but all that shit your talking about violence and ignorance in the streets and what not, is the same shit being peddled by the rap artist you are always in here defending. No disrespect to your little brother, cuz I also lost a nigga who was like a brother to me to violence, but if your so passionate about it, then you should be railing against g-unit’s relentless message of violence and thuggery at all costs. I mean look at the shit that Busta is caught up in now, and look who’s likely responsible for it. I’m just saying.

  22. eskay Says:

    yo E from BK, the very best resource is the book I mentioned above. It breaks down everything about dude from Fat Cat’s reign in the 80′s, through Pac’s shooting, right up to Jam Master Jay’s murder and how it all ties in together. Incredible book. Go read my interview you’ll see what I mean.

    Edit: also peep the article linked by Ageezee above, which is written by the same dude Ethan Brown.

  23. MaddenMaster Says:

    ESKAY: Thats fair!! but lets really be adult about it…..So if we are going to condem one we must condem all correct? That includes D-Block rigth? and also Dipset for there constant praise of that Grape Street shit would that be fair? I said this in the post about the little girl and I’ll repeat it again just in case you missed it…. Rppers aren’t exploiting our hoods they are exploiting the burbs because 70 to 80% of the music is bought by them…… more middle class republican dollars are responsible for record sales than anything else……… One of the things I always enjoyed hear Beans say about Biggie was the fact that he made it cool for you to be you and thats what we need more leaders creating leaders and less followers trying so hard not to be noticed that they just want to fit in…..

  24. p1 Says:

    yo eskay, i read your interview with ethan brown, and im for sure going to pick up that book now. you have anything else to recomend, while im on amazon? its hard as hell to find well written, smart, informative books about hiphop culture, or real shit like this; it seems like everything is either biased as fuck hero worship, bragging bullsht, or some cop stuff…

  25. eskay Says:

    Madden,

    I feel you on the D block/Dipset shit, and you’re right, but I’ll say this though, out of those three crews, D Block is the only one I’ve ever heard anything positive come out of. I’ve never heard the Dips or the Unit even attempt to say anything worthwhile….but I digress.

    But yeah all these niggas talk alot of negative shit, and I’ll admit it…you got me, I like to listen to gangster rap. Consider it one of my vices, if you will. But I’m careful about how preachy I get. I’m not gonna sit up here (and I’m not talking about you specifically, but niggas in general) and talk a bunch of shit about stop the violence and then turn around and throw on some Yayo, you feel me? I’m against violence in the streets, but I try to only preach when I think it’ll matter, like to the little niggas on my block or to someone who may be misguided. Tellin most of you niggas on here anything is just preaching to the choir as most of us are grown and act like it.

  26. eskay Says:

    p1,

    I mentioned it yesterday I think, but check out Can’t Stop, Won’t Stop by Jeff Chang, it’s incredible.

  27. ITBEEZLIKETHAT Says:

    WITH 50 ON THE PROSECUTION SIDE, THAT MAN IS LOST.

  28. G Off Says:

    Madden, you’ve said some real things about this post which makes me think you are smarter than you come across sometimes in your defenses of G-Unit. What’s the deal? Why can you seem reasonable in one post, but so ignorant in others?

  29. Blood Hound Says:

    I don’t wanna post for 2 reasons

    1 I’d start a cyber riot.

    2 I’d even joy it too much.

    So I’ll think about it for a while… Maybe I’ll post maybe not…

    This one is gonna be tooo easy, I didn’t expect to see any of the stans in here but I’m glad Madden is holding it down.

  30. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    see madden is a smart dude ive had many smart convos with the dude they only thing is everything he complains about others also applies for 50 but eskay already explained that and he agreed so no need to elaborate.
    i like a lot of so called gangsta music but i also like more positive music and lots of shit i dont not like 50 because he talks vilence and its not the hooks and melodies that make me not like 50 cause actually thats the only reason why i liked him at first, that guess whose back mixtape was hot as fuck and he was melodic as fuck on it but the thing is then he was still rapping hard on his verses, yea he had a little swagger but twang but now he sings ever word and yea everyone does some r&b commercial joints but 50 does about 80% straight r&b 15 % just talking and maybe 5 % actually rapping and thats why i dont fuck with him no more

  31. p1 Says:

    good looks, eskay, thanks

  32. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    let it out blood hound we all wanna hear it. speak on it man. GET’EM

  33. The Cipher Says:

    aiight well i wasnt gunna post anything in here mainly cause im not 100% informed on this dudes situation, but i will say that yes madden today you have rightfully earned a non stan approach on this site, big up to you today… theres alot of truth from everyone right now, 85% of hiphop is bought by saburban kids, i been saying it since i got on this shit… violence in hiphop is a growing epidemic these days, but its not only in hiphop, violence is growing in music in general its been in rock music prolly longer then its been in hiphop, but why dont you hear bout it… honestly i dont got an answer for you, because rock music without a doubt is mostly listened to by the white community but honestly you dont understand a thing there saying til you read there lyrics(slipknot for example)… i listen to slick rick still, hey young world is a song that i told people to get cause it tells alot of truths that arent being heard by the youth of today… as bad as the violence portrayal is in hiphop, we have so much more thats positive that isnt being show… and its because one, all the money thats being pumped into the hiphop world goes right back to the gov’t, two, its alot easier to keep people in ignorance then it is to take them away from knowledgment and having an ignorant to the truth community buying everything keeps the gov’t rich… i think i might off topic hear but you get the point… as much as violence is so bad in hiphop the main people keeping it alive, are the same people who “appear” to be trying to stop it… they have complete control over hiphop, same waythey control how much crack gets put into america

  34. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    damn i just wanna say this is by far the most intelligant overall post ive seen here, virtually no ignorance, lots of real talk this is amazing

  35. BBN2 Says:

    That nigga(Preme)just did too much at some point in your life you gotta know when to just give it up. I mean b4 this da nigga had already did some time so when givin that second opportunity he should’ve tookin a different route. I don’t know these are all allegations at this point but if it’s the real he kinda went out backwards. When u a nigga wit his kinda reputation he should’ve known boys was keeping a watchful eye on him. That’s just being street smart. I got caught up by them boys an had to go away for a lil bit. The whole bid I’m thinking once I get my life back I’ma take time to enjoy the small things(talkin to moms,walkin to the corner store,openin the refrigerator)aint nothin like your freedom. Some nggas is G by nature an not by choice but besides all that you gotta b a THINKER! An judging by his action if it’s the truth! He got caught up in being THE MAN an was sloppy with his business. GOD got the final word on this 1

  36. The Cipher Says:

    true say @ BBN2… i mean god(the creator) will only give you so many chances, and thats if your lucky… dude had a chance to turn around i know that much… but some people are stuck in there ways, its unfortunate they wonna give him death… personally i tihnk death is to easy to anyone (i would put him in isolation for life) but hey, reep what you sew

  37. The Cipher Says:

    man we gotta start a campaigne to educate these kids out there… cause from everything we’re learning from eachother, gotta send back to the community so they can get with the knowledge and understanding they needs…
    cause man future generations are gunna be fucked up if things dont change, and thats real, i got maDD baby cousins coming along and some day ima hope to have some of my own, but seeing how the worlds going its fucked up to think whats next, and if its gunna be safe anymore… you gotta stop the encouragement of foul behavior somewhere(just like when a child does something wrong you gotta teach em right)… so if its possible we should see what we can do

  38. T Nelson Says:

    Im not from NY so I could be wrong but isnt there enough real estate for everybody to eat without all that murder 1 shyt

  39. BBN2 Says:

    Cipher I counsel youngsters at this learning program I was in at a young age for underprevillage kids. I do on my spare time. I just tell them the reality of street life. A lot of times I don’t practice what I preach but, I just let them know every action in life has a consequence whether good or bad. If they just think about what there doin why they doing it an overall just b logical thinkers. I also tell’em turning 18 don’t do nothin for u except make u eligible for the county jail. By carrying yourself a certain way make u a target amongst police an other cats in the streets as well. I self educated my self by reading a lot of books but I also tell them take advantage of education an sports because as a race were deprived of that some time ago. What I’m tryin to say as far as ur nephews just spend time with them an just install good morals in them an educate about the consequences of the game give examples I use myself as 1 goodluck

  40. Blood Hound Says:

    This has to be the 50 indictment week, just yesterday I made the post bout lil Homie Irv and now Eskay breaks bread with the Preme topic.

    Oh man life is good.

    You g unit cops must love seeing your work in action. Don’t get me wrong lil Homies I think America’s judical system is paying mad respect to your little clique, team, platoon, squad or what ever you choose to call yourselves these days. I prefer stans…

    Here is what I mean 50 gets a lot of big timing dudes taken outta the picture one way or another. Whether its locked up or just simply vanishing from sight. Like Preme for example.

    While on the other end,Young Buck the only gangsta ass nigga with G-who did it (g-unit for the slow steves) stabbed a dude on TV at the vibe awards, and got a slap on the wrist. I’m assuming its all over with due to the fact Buck is dancing around cashville like a cracked out chicken with his head cut off.

    Yayo the worst rapper in the world is in photos on tour with his ankle bracelet on while he was still on house arrest. Waving an open hand in front of his face as if he stuck his hand in 50′s ass and is trying to see how it smells.

    Banks the gay rapper, makes a gay porno with a guy. Gets it stolen, leaked and distributed and in a magical act by Mr. Magic clit it too vanishes into thin air like Ja Rules career.

    Oliver is completing his operation to become a real girl, and change his name to Olivia.

    Mobb Deep, enough said….

    I mean hey it has its ups and its downs maybe we are missing the big picture, maybe its cool to be a gangsta rat, 50 can basically sing an album and call it rap, whereas Ciara does it and its called R&B.

    50 will never have to worry bout prison, a place to live, witness protection has him covered, he’ll never have to worry bout being broke because all the money seizes in drug busts will have him set for life. He’ll never have to worry about “real’ beef, because he is a active member of the biggest gang in america NYPD.

    So in retrospect 50 has got it made. From his shoe deal, video game sales, R&B cds, clothing and various contracts with the FBI and CIA. Hell I’m sure he knows where to find Osama and I know he told them where Sadam was.

    So just to wrap this up before I have the feds watching me for talking bout their number one agent. Allow me to say if Preme does get the death penalty that’ll make Curtis 50 cent Jackson the most dangerous man in america and that makes G-U guilty the untouchables.

    P.s.

    Fuck 50…

  41. Blood Hound Says:

    Don’t get me wrong I know Preme is not a angel and the streets are better off with him behind bars, its just the lack of honor displayed when 50 goes all Action Jackson on that ass…

    I bet coming when little Curtis played cops and robbers he was ALWAYS the cop.

    “Its only so long fake thugs can pretend…”
    -Jay Z

  42. The Cipher Says:

    @BBN2… yeah man thats what i do… i see them at least once a week and i dont censor them from that whole lifestyle, but i let em know, this is whats real and this is whats used just to get the paper you know, and that they should look for more in life then what the television celebrities(BET sickens me at times) tell them to do… specially when theyre promoting violence and hustling and then turn around in an interview and say its ok to be low key flippin burgers… confusing the shit outta the youth dont help you know what i mean… its sad

  43. MaddenMaster Says:

    Eskay: I will respond to your post in the order in which they follow my last post. You said you’ve never heard dipset or the unit speak on the “digress” but the digress of what? If we are going to be fair lets be fair D-Block never promote anything positive and I haven’t ever heard a “God Gave Me Style” or “Gotta Make It to Heaven” out of D-Block most of the time they talking about just as much shoot’em up shit as everybody else and they promote crack like they sponsored by the shit.. And to seriously be fair if you or anyone else on here is going to call me a G-Unit stan then you gotta own up to being a D-Block stan, because you protect and promote them as much as anybody else but yo that’s a mute point, please don’t get offended by that shit… Lets get back on track!!!

    I respect you for not being a hypocrite but you must admit there is a very small difference if any in the content that comes from sheek and yayo and that just fact. And not that I took your statement personally but for the record after my last post I went and bought “The Art Of Story telling” and listened to Mona Lisa, The Ruler is Back and Hey Young World because that was REAL hip hop at its peak AND like common said it got all fucked up when it went west!!! And all those punks like Fat Joe that say shit like “When did Hip Hop get a heart” need to go back and listen to “Teenage Age Love”, “I Need Love” “Around the Way Girl” etc and those are all songs that came out during the PEAK of REAL hip hop.

    I know you like D-Block but they don’t get a pass and I really hate Dipset because for a group of punks to start reppin a gange and putting it on videos and shit and marketing a culture that is not something they were born into being as though that shit has never been a east cost thing that gay, that type of action don‘t promote leaders it promotes followers and that’s type of shit exploits our community… Shit Preme and his crew did dirt but they wasn’t killing niggas over colors. You feel me? And you’re right most of us on here are grown on here and don’t need to be preached to but you never know what someone knows unless you say something…

    And for the last Goddamn time I’m really not nearly as big a 50 fan as most of you think, I defend the ability to have pointless hate not the character of that clown. And you guys make it easy because jada is equally as big of a clown in my eyes. And the only reason I do that is because as a society we have been hated on for generation so it makes me sick when anyone hates anything “JUST BECAUSE”…. check my post log I defend just about everyone that has enough ammo to use in their defense.

  44. Blood Hound Says:

    I feel mad man madden

  45. Blood Hound Says:

    *Notices as madden un stans himself*

  46. BBN2 Says:

    Cipher just keep them under your wing brotha an they’ll b ok in the long run. Me bein a fatherless child at a young age I was under the wing of the streets so I had to experience a lot of shit in order to learn. We don’t want that for our own ya dig!

  47. MaddenMaster Says:

    Back to the thread, When they was gone put Tookie ass to sleep I was the first nigga to say fuck that nigga kill his ass, simply because dude created something that was used solely to hurt other black people and at the very least his life should be taken in return for all the innocent soles lost due to gang violence. The man made creation of guns, cigarettes, and gangs have killed more innocent people then anything else and the founders of all of those different organizations should be put to sleep and that’s my take!! so to say save Preme would be nuts to me, that dude got rich exploiting black people more than any rapper every could dudes like that are personally responsible for the destruction and depressed state of the hood so when the novice DARE come at me with the “he didn’t ship the shit to the hood” line I will quickly remind them that he still had a choice on where he distributed it. So instead of rallying around dudes like him and tookie that have taken so much from us let start a free Mutual Shakur or Geronamo Pratt thread those are dudes that no matter how “militant” they may have been, they formed gangs to protect the integrity of our community and the perception of them is not nearly as bad as anything this so called democratic system has done to our people, but lets save that for another day…. But everything I just said is a perfect representation of the current mentality of the black community, which is to condone what’s bad and condemn what’s good, which is why school is looked down on in the hood. Malcolm X once said that if we as a society had to depend on the black man to eat we would starve, now as a black man I hate to accept that shit but as a realist I know its true!!! So fuck tookie, fuck preme, free Mumia Abu-Jamal, Geronamo Pratt, Mutulu Shakur those the dudes that should be respected..

  48. The Cipher Says:

    ok lemme start with blood hound… you forgot to mention that 50 defended the president when kanye blasted him, 50 ,honest to the creator, said that bush is a gangsta, im not faking oyu homies… even tohugh i dont agree with what kanye said mainly because its not the presidents job to just send money to cities and states, it has to be asked for and the state didnt do so… but anyways…

    now madden… im loving you today(no homo) im on point with your statements and your keeping it straight intellegence, and you make a good point common was right, shit did get fucked up when it went to the west coast, cause in the west they wanted to get heard so they brought the whole gangster persona into the mix, unfortunatley… but when they did it, they were telling a story that others thought they were promting a life style and inviting people into it… i’ll admit some artist, promoted that derogatory lifestyle in there raps both east and west back then, but the only reason it became such a thing to do was because of curiosity… to many people didnt know wtf it was to be gangster and they wanted more, and now look at what its brought us too…

  49. The Cipher Says:

    @ BBn2… i dig

  50. eskay Says:

    Madden< >>You said you’ve never heard dipset or the unit speak on the “digress” but the digress of what? If we are going to be fair lets be fair D-Block never promote anything positive

    you may have misunderstood my statement. what I'm saying is, I've never heard anything near a "I'm Black" or a "Why" (gimmicky as it might have been) from anybody on G-Unit. I could be wrong. it's straight murder murder from that camp. look at Ballerina P's message lately. "I'm filthy rotten rich and none of you are on my level. I have a Porsche so my life is worth more than yours you pussies. Now buy my album."

    Styles P stays on some introspective shit, he stays fucking with niggas like dead prez. as a matter of fact, tomorrow he's appearing at Fordham University with Immortal Technique and Saigon for a panel discussion examining US government repression through Law enforcement abuses, the Patriot Act, COINTELPRO & and the continued neglect of the residents affected by Hurricane Katrina.

    Tell me when in your life you have ever seen or will ever see anybody from G-Unit participating in anything like that? Them niggas are to busy taking from the community and giving nothing back. AND they’re promoting the same gang culture you’re railing against dipset for. G-unit crips ring a bell?

  51. The Cipher Says:

    see thats proof right there… D-block will go the extra step to let people know, they dont just say shits, theres meaning to ther elines, and they go back to the community and educate when needed… plus along side immortal technique you know thats gunna be something special man, no doubt about it

  52. MaddenMaster Says:

    Oh Hommie I really did like and respect that “I’m Black” shit and “Why” really don’t count because that shit was nothing more than a diss track to the entire world in order to get attention…..but I’m Black was cool!!

    Jealousy has alway been a serious factor in this genre so when I hear dudes talking about what they have, I view it as a direct slap in the face to the people that are responsible for the sales. Stuntin has been apart of our music since the very beginning but if you really want to take the educated route, homie we was buried in africa with all our jewels and custom caskets made of gold and only the people that could afford it did it that way not just royalty and trust homie that’s some fly ass shit, that takes stuntin to a whole nother level…. We the original stunner and white folks just swagger jackers thats why it kills me when they be gettin they reggae on…. But you follow what I’m saying though? 50 cent not the first person to talk about what he got its been done forever go listen to Special Eds’ “I got it made”…….. And alot of dudes hate curtis because of the same reasons now do you see why I call it pointless?

    Hey I respect Sp for doing that but doing something like that and not doing is right has a reverse effect and only sets us back…. Which is why I’m glad 50 dumb ass don’t get up there because he only gone make all black people look dumb but do me a favor and post the discussion transcript tomorrow and lets go through the dialogue and lets see if Sp or any of them for that matter actually enhances us as intellectual equals or further sets us back. Lets not make this about G-Unit because that’s too small to dwell on but since you made the point then I will address it, How is G-Unit taking from the community? They sell hood stories to white people, PERSONALLY I dont see the detraction in that at all, actually 50 cent has used what was given to him by white men and created more black millionaires and money solve problems!!!

    I’m still lost on this G-Unit crips shit, If its something Spider Joke said then its not worth speaking on, shit hurricane lame used to say G-Unit bloods, I know 50 has always said “I’m not a blood or a crip I’m doing my own thing, SHIT I done started my own gang” and we all know how that line ends so I’m lost their….. But again lets not make this about that dumb shit we do that enough lets make this about how irrelevant preme is and if you don’t want to avoid the point less fighting then lets dwell on ya boy jada calling that nigga Preme a “GOOD NIGGA” how much of a fucking joke is that? How positive is that? Ever man is a walking contradiction thats why I don’t judge the man I judge the music. Its been said that jesus as a kid was evil and used his powers to hurt others but we dont remember those things……. lets not get focused on the wrong thing…

  53. BEASTNIGGA Says:

    Its been said that jesus as a kid was evil and used his powers to hurt others . i heard that too. a mason in prison told me that. but i want to read some documented proof on that. madden where you get ya info?

  54. MaddenMaster Says:

    It was a documentary on the lost books of the bible that were destroyed by the catholic church and some research I did on the story mary!!!

  55. BEASTNIGGA Says:

    they got website for tha lost books and and ”sumthin about mary” on there?

  56. G-town G Says:

    I dont know why Jada called him a good nigga, I kinda wondered that but it made me think that maybe we really dont know the half of it. None of us know if the nigga is guilty or innocent and I mean thats for the judge and jury to decide anyway. I mean we have no proof this dude did shit and I mean the way Murder INC got off I know they gone try to hang this nigga. I neva ever take the feds side so I mean shit it aint much else I can say. Karma is a muthafucka and you get back what you put out X10. We will see in due time whats gonna happen to Preme.

  57. Ur-MAD Says:

    thats crazy

  58. Da_Realiest Says:

    neva heard anything bout jesus hurtin ppl
    der is a lot of g unit haters

  59. E From BK Says:

    I feel you today Madden. Like alot of us, I lost a family member two years ago and I’m still pissed about that shit. You would think that it happened today. The amazing thing about this music is that it exposes our inconsistencies, but are we really inconsistent? Everybody has different sides and the ability to encompass many moods. For instance, one of my favorite album’s of all time is Ice Cube’s Death Certificate. That album ran the gamut of emotions. There was some real ignorant shit on there as well as some positive shit as well as some political shit. We can’t get mad at self expression, it just needs to be well balanced. I believe that is what most of us are looking for in Hip Hop.

  60. ageezee Says:

    I’m a be real.. Its incredible the amount of posters are on this site… The bad part is that I have fuckin log on from my blackberry to stay afloat on the conversation.. Everybody is making good points..

    I’m watchin wildin out right now, and busta’s sidekick has to be the luckiest weed carrier in history… Sorry for gettin off topic. :-)

  61. E From BK Says:

    Damn I’m glad Duke lost!

  62. ageezee Says:

    Word??? Heck yeah! I never been able to like them, even when I have tried.

  63. luis Says:

    DAMN, my nigga “MADDENMASTER” just took some heads from NAHRIGHT.com to school on his replies……WOW (clapping and a standing ovation screaming encore encore)

    P.S. I agree with madden’s comment below:

    MaddenMaster Says:

    March 23rd, 2006 at 4:29 pm
    I dont know….. never researched it but you got some links?? niggas always say 50 ruined rap with melody and hook but when I was a kid we had this rapper known as Slick Rick who had crazy style and sick melody and he made this song called “Hey Young World” and in that song he said “Hey Little Kids dont follow these dopes…….. Get ahead and accomplish thing and you’ll see the wonder and the joy life brings” maybe I’m the oldest nigga on this board but thats real hip hop to me…. And thats the shit I respect but everybody forgot about that shit right?

  64. Reninatronix Says:

    @ G-town G
    its a fed case get doesnt matter what state your in feds can have your ass killed, and this isnt even about 50 being a rat but trust this if 50 never mentioned dudes name in songs they wouldnt still be going after him like this and of course they are pissed they couldnt get irv and ja so now they really have to try ans stick to preme, but lets face it 50 made preme a household name throughout the world not just ny
    —————————————————–
    Based on my my infantile knowledge of the ways and actions of the Feds, I argue that the FEDS would go after the Supreme for two reasons.
    a. To make a statement.
    b. Prosectors are people too. People who want promotions, bigger offices, larger salaries. Many a careers has been built/ ruined over convicting a negro.

    @ Eskay
    “but if your so passionate about it, then you should be railing against g-unit’s relentless message of violence and thuggery at all costs. I mean look at the shit that Busta is caught up in now, and look who’s likely responsible for it.”
    ————————————————————-
    I disagree re the Busta statement. The police are public officials who are comfortable with their adverserial realtionship with the hood. You CANNOT come to the hood asking for answers to questions, when you beat the teef outta my brother last week. (Oakland Police Department Dec 28th 2004. Trust). Relationships are based on reciprocity and po po been eliminated that option by poppin fools 41 times and by eliminating community policing.

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  67. Kanye's tiny jacket Says:

    you bird azz niggas need to put on a tight jacket.

    GET was right about state jurisdiction. A fed case case means the the US District Attorney for that jurisdiction (state) brings the evidence to the table. As opposed to the DA from the state, or city in which the criminal act was allegedly committed.

    NY has no death penalty, but Maryland does so maybe they will try to pinch ol’ boy for the work that he put in south of the Mason Dixon line.

  68. Meccajj Says:

    “I mean hey it has its ups and its downs maybe we are missing the big picture, maybe its cool to be a gangsta rat, 50 can basically sing an album and call it rap, whereas Ciara does it and its called R&B.

    50 will never have to worry bout prison, a place to live, witness protection has him covered, he’ll never have to worry bout being broke because all the money seizes in drug busts will have him set for life. He’ll never have to worry about “real’ beef, because he is a active member of the biggest gang in america NYPD.

    So in retrospect 50 has got it made. From his shoe deal, video game sales, R&B cds, clothing and various contracts with the FBI and CIA. Hell I’m sure he knows where to find Osama and I know he told them where Sadam was.”

    This guy is a 50 cent hater…wow

    of course he’s going to come back and talk shit calling me a g-unit stan(or steve) I just sit back and watch, I’m sorry I’ve just never seen so much hate in my life….call it how I see it

  69. E From BK Says:

    Thanks for the info Eskay.

  70. Blood Hound Says:

    @ Meccajj

    I’m not a hater at all. In fact I’m glad a ypung black man is making money and is a powerful force in a business world.

    I don’t like 50′s so called gangster image that’s hyped up by his stans. They look to this dude like he is a god, like 50 can do no wrong.

    As for me calling you a stan or a steve, its usally reserved for the ignorant 50 fans, the ones that pray to Curtis and turn to him for help, I’ve never called MaddenMaster or Luis a stan because they show “some” degree of intelligence (lol @ “some”) although they’re taste in music sucks. (Just kidding guys.)

    Now if you notice in my posts about 50 I usually blend the truth about his involvement with the police department in with a few jokes just to say the common stan that I’m not to upset at their idol god, just to ease tention in the thread at times.

    P.s.

    I don’t have to call you a stan or a steve. Because you did it for me!

    THANKS!!!!!! :) you’re one step closer to a cure buddy. And I’m here to help!

    You could always log on to the suicide prevention website http://www.fuck50.com or email me at stop50@aol.com thanks!

  71. Blood Hound Says:

    @ the gunit crips comment

    I basically changed the meaning of that’s all. Since G-Unit has a gangster image and NYPD are the boys in blue… By my meaning of it I combined the two together Since the crips rock blue too… I dubbed them the G-Unit crips so they can they the little gangster image the have left….

    P.s.

    @ meccajj

    I actually own 2 50 cent albums ” get rich or die singing” and “The ass-kisser”

    And get rich was actually a good album…

    So hate is a strong word for someone who’s disk I own. Lets just say I don’t like R&B or rats…

  72. MADDENMASTER Says:

    YO E NIGGAS DON’T KNOW REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT SICKNESS IS LIKE WHEN YOU LOSE YA FAMILY…. THAT SHIT IS TUFF TO GET PAST AND IF YOU ANY TYPE OF REAL NIGGA THAT SSHIT EFFECTS YOU FOR A LONG TIME……. But yo dog you just gotta take it one day at a time… The hardest thing for me to do at first was to throw all of those memories out because I couldn’t stop telling stories about my little brother like he was in the next room but now I tell stories about dude all the time!!!

  73. MeccaJJ Says:

    I’m sorry calling 50 cent an R&B singer is lame…I like when Jayz said something like 90% of the rappers out are broke. If your goal in rap is to get rich(Get rich or die trying) the man accomplished his goal. So what his videos are pretty girly and for the clubs. on his album there is definitely some bangers on there. The 1st 5 tracks on the “ass-kisser” were straight gangsta “niggaz screw they face up at me, on some real shit son they don’t want beef” the song is tough.

    side note…why!!! was the worse call for attention ever

    Yayo is lame “theres a body, a body…hole in his head” go to college get an education

    I like how 50 said preme was going to get what he deserved in the xxl magazine…

  74. eskay Says:

    Reninatronix said:

    >>I disagree re the Busta statement. The police are public officials who are comfortable with their adverserial realtionship with the hood. You CANNOT come to the hood asking for answers to questions, when you beat the teef outta my brother last week.

    That’s not what I meant, I agree with what you’re saying. I was telling Madden, who always sticks up for G-Unit, that a G-unit member is at the center of that incident.

  75. Blood Hound Says:

    @ Meccajj

    Lets face the facts, 50 is a harmonizing singer but its considered rap, he said it himself “I took what Ja did and made it hot” that was in an interview with MTV news. And what did Ja do? You may ask well 50 said Ja sings on all his songs, and if 50 is doing what ja did that makes 50 a fucking singer.

    Listen to Ciara “Oh” and the listen to any post get rich or die trying 50 song. They sound the same.

    And calling 50 an R&B singer is not lame, ignoring the facts are…

  76. Blood Hound Says:

    @ meccajj

    There isn’t much about 50 that hasn’t been said, most of it proven infact. But this isn’t court no one is on trial so therefore the burden of proof is a non-factor you would either agree or dis-agree to the fact that there is a new genre starting up and 50 is at the forefront and the genre is called Gangsta R&B. There are others out there also whom fall in that catergory, Ja Rule (Magnolia Chop), Ciara at times,( Trill Reel ) and a few other cats I can’t think of like even missy…. But my point is own up too it, nothing is wrong with it… If 50 were to own up to it I may like him again. But for now fuck’em…

  77. Blood Hound Says:

    Charmillionar’s song Riding dirty’s hook is tight and he is singing his ass off not saying he sounds good at singing I’m just stating the fact nothing is wrong with it as long as you man up to the facts….

    And that song you quoted from the ass-kisser is a gangsta song gangsta r&b….

    ————————————————
    Jaheim maned up to it so should 50…

  78. MeccaJJ Says:

    you do know you just posted 3 times in a row all about 50…there is definitely some animosity…would you like to talk about it? when did this all start? We can sit around a table and discuss this and let you get your emotions out. Honestly, I’m all about the Kanye movement…college dropout was my album… I just feel like I can sit there and listen to a whole 50 album also…not many people out there I can say that about. but you know sorry he isn’t doing collabos with Mariah Carey singing we beong together.

  79. Blood Hound Says:

    lol @ meccajj for being my psych doctor.

    Well it all began just after 50 ruined Ja’s career as a singer and began singing himself. That’s like me dissing Eskay for having a Blog and then starting my own… Its dumb and pointless and it lacks honor, and I’m a fan of Kanye seeing as how he is talented at what he does. But most importantly Kanye is unique no one does what he does as good as he can.

  80. Blood Hound Says:

    I like positive rappers the most, because they a more lyrical than those other lil dudes in the game. Put Hov in a cypher session with Common and I’d bet Common would eat him alive… Hell I wanna see Nas and Mos Def go at it. Now that would be a battle.

  81. Blood Hound Says:

    *is not starting a blog btw*

    I wanna start a freestyle board though because I haven’t seen any good ones around lately.

    Also sidenote that’s how I found Nah Right! Looking for a freestyle board.

  82. The Cipher Says:

    well im back, and i gotta say, my album from 05 has got to be Common’s “Be”, dude kept it real, thats the hiphop were missing… i tihnk chi-city was the most conscious song on the album, cause he just tore apart all the things he hated in hiphop… as for the mos def, nas freestyle, i would love to see that to, im a big fan of both those guys and to see them go head to head would be amazing…

    also @ bloodhound, i think its safe to say that Ja’s career was already over cause his last few albums before 50 came along were flop, and we all know it, he was drowning and all 50 did was push his head under the water… so technically i see it as 50 beat a man while he was down… and in the days of the samurai, we would all turn our backs on the lack of honour 50 had… just saying…

  83. babyGirl Says:

    damn this negro has some prob-lems!

  84. Blood Hound Says:

    So true at Cipher so true

  85. Bugsytheboss Says:

    What the fuck is all the hating for on 50 cent about Yeah he harmonizes his hooks so they will be catchy and radio friendly but any dumb fuck will no he is just doing that to get mo, money mo, money. 50 cent still has an ill flow its just he is just not own no mixtape freestyle flow shit right now(he’s been there done that) now he is into making hits and thats why we have g-unit to spit those raw flows while he continues to run the pop and rap charts

  86. The Cipher Says:

    what you just said, made 50 look worse not better… cause hiphop not about the money, its bout getting the story across and its not a problem that hes doing the whole melodic harmonies shit, cause slick rick did that shit alot… its when you destroy someone for doing that then turn aorund and pull the same shit, its hipocrittical and disgusting cause not only is he getting payed with this shit, but he wont man up to it, like people have said hes a gangster RNB singer without a doubt… we just would like to hear him admit it

  87. Reninatronix Says:

    “GET was right about state jurisdiction. A fed case case means the the US District Attorney for that jurisdiction (state) brings the evidence to the table. As opposed to the DA from the state, or city in which the criminal act was allegedly committed.

    NY has no death penalty, but Maryland does so maybe they will try to pinch ol’ boy for the work that he put in south of the Mason Dixon line.”
    ———————————-
    Apparently you were awake, unlike me, in Civ Pro.
    Who you work for?
    Honestly, reading posts like these make a lil Oakland girl wanna do criminal defense:~

    @Bloodhound.
    -Fam you hella funny. You need to right. More. Blogs are good.

  88. Bugsytheboss Says:

    I dont know what planet cipher is on but news flash HIP HOP is all about the money youngster and 50 cent didnt steal ja rule’s style cuzz jarule stold DMX’s style so if your saying 50 sound like ja you really must mean DMX. You calling him an r&b thug but in 2002 summer i bet you were yelling 50 is the realist gangsta. i swear you guys are the real stans and transformers

  89. Bird Says:

    This was one of the best blogs I have every read even though most of it is off topic which is cool with me. I could care less whether Kenneth McGriff gets the needle. Something is wrong with that dude mentally. As for these people talking about the Feds not being able to give death in a state where there is no death penalty, yall wrong. All I’m going to say about that is look it up. And if you research Supreme’s story you will find that they have an air tight case on this stupid dude because they was watching him like a hawk after he got out of prison. Hell they have the surveilence tape that Supreme made of E Money bags minutes before he was killed. That dude is going down. The best thing that every happened to the Lorenzon brothers was to have their trial seperated from his cause they are catholic school girls compared to that dude.

  90. MaddenMaster Says:

    eskay: why do i refuse to accept that g-unit is at the center of that cassidy shooting??? what does that shit have to do with this trial? BUT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE yup yayo and his shooters almost killed busta and took his boy out no defense there!!!

  91. eskay Says:

    When did I say they had anything to do with the Cassidy shit? I was talking about the Busta shit…

    ….although now that you mention it, where exactly was Tony Yayo the night Cassidy allegedly shot homey…..? hummmmmm

  92. Reninatronix Says:

    Ha.
    Being the nerd I am I googled it.

    Information on Supremes case.
    ———————————————-
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0426043murder1.html

    APRIL 28–The narcotics kingpin at the center of the federal criminal probe engulfing one of rap music’s leading labels is suspected of ordering several murders, including a double homicide in Baltimore and the revenge slaying of a New York rapper, The Smoking Gun has learned.

    In late-August 2001, when investigators raided a Baltimore stash pad used by McGriff, they found $30,000 in cash, loads of cocaine and heroin, and a particularly incriminating surveillance videotape. On the video–which bears recording dates of July 13-16, 2001–Smith is seen driving and parking his Lincoln Navigator on the Queens street where he was gunned down on July 16 at 9:45 PM. Investigators determined that the video was shot by Dennis “Divine” Crosby, a drug-dealing McGriff associate, and Nicole Brown, Crosby’s girlfriend.

    Information on the applicable law.
    ————————————————–

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/

    So its a case of jurisdiction meeting crim law.

    Depending on the evidence feds have, Preme could get the needle for:

    I. Murder related Crimes-

    a.Murder committed by the use of a firearm during a crime of violence or a drug trafficking crime. (18 U.S.C 930)

    b.Murder for hire. (18 U.S.C. 1958)

    c.Genocide. (18 U.S.C. 1091)

    II.Non Murder related Crimes

    a. Espionage (18 U.S.C. 794)

    b. Treason. (18 U.S.C. 2381)

    c. Trafficking in large quantities of drugs (18 U.S.C. 3591(b))

    Moving weight and ordering hits.
    ——————————————–
    Means this will apply
    a.Trafficking in large quantities of drugs (18 U.S.C. 3591(b))
    and
    b.Murder for hire. (18 U.S.C. 1958).

  93. LADY BMORE Says:

    50 stole ja style, hell ray charles could see that. only reason everybody say ja stole x style was because, 1 his voice, & 2 his apperence (topless, solja rag, bald head,) none of there albums sound the same or lyrical content. but 50 on the other hand, he really put on a front when he came out his fav line *if you commerical ill hurt you*

  94. Blood Hound aka Slum Lord Says:

    I think I just feel in love with Lady B-More…

    That’s what I’ve been trying to tell these stans for the longest….

    I LOVE YOU DAMNIT. I LOVE YOU!!!!!

    That’s what I’m talking bout Bodymore, Murdaland on their shit!

  95. BEASTNIGGA Says:

    i’m gone say it and let it be known,mark it down as being official now. i’m a hater. but only hatin on one nigga. 50. don’t get me wrong though,before you niggas miss read me. i hate the nigga because he fake. a marketing ploy. all image. i hope a motherfucka spray out his brains inside a whip. this fool on borrowed time. thats what happen when you make a deal wit tha devil.

  96. MeccaJJ Says:

    yeah lets wish death upon another man…thats the cool thing to do. hey everybody look at me, I want other people to die.

  97. BEASTNIGGA Says:

    hey, what can i say? that bitch nigga wrote ”MANY MEN “. I DIDN’T. HERES SOMETHING TO MARINATE ON.” SO YOU SAY IT, SO IT SHALL BE DONE” fuck being cool young nigga ,watch what you prophetsize.

  98. Ti.CRAZy Says:

    Well it’s my first time on this site and I must say that i was surprised to see so many intelligent comments from certain individuals on this site. To Maddenmaster i want to say keep your head up my nigga and stay on the right track, them niggas who took him out will get what he deserves. Now where do i begin. MY FIRST QUESTION IS TO ALL YOU 50 CENT HATERS IS: IS TUPAC A SNITCH FOR SAYING IN A SONG THAT BIGGIE, PUFF, JIMMY HENCHMEN AND HAITIAN JACK SET HIM UP AND SHOT HIM. I know that 50cent is a cocky mother fucker and just doesn’t care about anyone outside of his camp but let me clear something out to you’ll. 1) It has been said that preme had something to do with the dude’s mom slaying, preme never got convicted for that so therefore 50cent did not snith on him for that. 2 it has been said that preme got 50 shot, Preme never got convicted for that so 50cent didn’t snith on that either.3 It has been said that Preme had somehting to do with the murder of Jam Master Jay because in 50′s book he says that he was suppose to meet up with Jay 1hour before Jay got murdered, Preme has not been convicted for that so 50cent did not snitch on that. Now if a nigga had something to do with the murder of my “MOMS” i don’t care about no hood laws i would have him fry in Jaill for the rest of his life. When someone snithes to the police they don’t care about hiding your identity, they’ll bring the evidence and your testimony to the judge to get a conviction. In the last Trial that the Gotti brothers underwent one of the members of the Supreme Team flat out sat in the court room and said that he knew for a fact that Preme had 50 shot. Niggas in his own organization are refusing to go down with the dude.

  99. reas0n555 Says:

    Man preme..he just might fry.tookie got it good as well…no pain..now..look at KING BLOOD…they gave him 145 years…the first 45 in the box..only lawyers can see him ..no calls…letters only from his lawyers….damm I’d rather fry….as long as fifty rolls with the feds…after they bucked @ him @ jersey he will be ight….thw whole world knows 50 is a rat…GGGGG-unot

  100. G-town G Says:

    Ti CRAZy: U didnt know when Jam master Jay was killed CURTIS Jackson said in interviews that Murder INC had something to do with JMJ’s death? Preme- down wit Murda INc- how is that not snitchin?

  101. atl black Says:

    Man FUCK maddenmaster$ I’m a real street nigga, ya dig, it ain’t never easy to do what Supreme an his Crew did. Homes did what he had to do in a majorway. then muthafuckas like maddenmaster is the reason why it’s some real niggaz locked up today. Don’t hate real niggaz do real things$ a “G’s” up then A-town down

  102. Lord Scatter Dimes Says:

    Well I personally grew up watching Fat Cat and his crew get money Preme and Prince came along a little later although they were always invovled. Preme had been under the Fed microscope for years before Jah and 50′s beef, I can even remember Boo (50) when he was younger and believe it or not 50 a real dude. But what most people don’t understand is that in those days you couldn’t just up and sell drugs or do any criminal activity any where you wanted it would be a price to pay! 50 violated one of the most sacried rules So. Jamaica Queens dudes had loyalty to each other and respect for each other but even with that the law of nature still applies ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE! Had Prince been around 50 would be dead period!!!! Also keep in mind that Preme had already done a bid and although he could of snitched on a lot of people and walked away with no time he held his head and most importantly his tongue!!! never even made a suggestion that someone else maybe guilty of any type of crime this is one reason Preme has the respect til this day that he does. However we can not deny the fact that he destroyed a enitre generation of children myself included but he also gave them more to inspire to be, they Fat Cat, Preme, Wall (J. Corley), Tommy Montana (Thomas Mickens), Charlie Brown, Paris, (RIP) Doc, Lefty, Jazz, RIP Black Just and the likes of them defined a generation made us want to hustle Legal and Illegal to provide more for our families! They changed the face of not only the City of NY, but the country. Young dudes listen they were the original Ballers before Alpo, Richie Po, etc. Life was good back then as long as you played your position and remained loyal, life was goooood!!!!! I feel for any innocent people who got caught in the middle of this but true story most people had something to do with it directly or indirectly grandmother who didn’t actully sell drug or murder had children that were involved and they knew it and spent the money the same way and indulged to what ever degree!!!!!

  103. Lord Scatter Dimes Says:

    As far as rappers being killed by Preme I have one name for you Colbert “Black Just” Johnson, this is why one particular rapper was killed AEye for an Eye. (RIP) Dennis Crosby, Paris, Doc, Pee Wee, Corey Dee, Black Just, Rome, Wighty, Iron Horse, Slave, Big Daddy, Smitty, and so many more I am for ever proud of SJQ THAT’S WHAT I REPRESENT!!!! LF FAM!!!!

  104. triniman101 Says:

    i have to agree with madden master,although i was a kid in the 90s where rappers were hungry to get put on,i remember hearing good music.music that had a real message to it,now it went from that to bling bling and i am gonna clap u up.to me thats bull.If you are a real killer,why would u come on the mic and brag about the negative things and make it sound like its a beautiful thing to do.whether we belive it or not the choices we make can determine weather we go to heaven or hell,and if bragging about killing somebody is a good thing to any body,then they seriously need some help.

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