what if Nas and Jay-Z never really squashed it , and they still have tension. in 2001 it was very clear that Nas won that battle , but damn near 12 years later bloggers and some radio personality’s are discrediting Ether , and saying how much better take over was. the fans at that time clearly thought Ether was a better diss record. i to this day think it was a knock out. now in my conspiracy theorist mind , i feel Nas got played a little. 1. swiss beats was the original producer of that record. but then ron browns did it. what happened ? why didn’t swiss finish the record ? what did the swiss version sound like ? 2. for years on different web sites i had seen some verse that also mentions big pun pulling out on jigga , but i never heard it on wax , mp3 , cd , nothing. i read that Colombia kept going back to Nas saying he was to harsh , chill out , and kept telling him to change it up. i want to hear what how original version sounded like. now , the jay-z side of things. ok , so he lost the battle , issues start to come up over at the roc , with dame , cam’ron , the state property mc’s getting into legal trouble , ect. i’m convinced that after blue print 2 jay was like ” i need to get away and come back stronger. so he “retires” , drops the black album , dead’s his business with dame , and starts to reformulate a master plan. it comes down to money. look at what jay-z was worth in 2003 , and now. he made genius moves in the business world. money is power. so he goes , gets his money right , becomes the president to def jam , signs “hit makers” and then gets ready to comes back. i think he must have read some ancient war / revenge manual cuz so far it looked perfect how he was working it. he has the i declare war stunt and brings nas out who he just happens to squash the beef with. then he signs him to some weird deal at defjam with Colombia. then he drops kingdom come. now personally , i liked kingdom come. i thought it was a solid record. (side note: jay-z worst album was vol.1.) but it may have rubbed some people the wrong way … they wanted that gangsta pimp jay-z , not the filthy rich guy. a month later after a delay , hip-hop is dead drops , and we finally get a song with them both. beat was solid , but that nas verse , eh… the jay-z verse was fire. could be he had a few extra bars then nas … eh what even. so then a year later boom , American gangster is born. the synergy was a perfect match even tho the movie was so-so , not the classic it was built up to be , but that album was. Nas and jay on a track again , and yet again jay-z out does him (side note: i am a die hard Nas fan). Nas drops untitled after label issues and its a solid album for it’s concept. a few misses on it , but over all a good album. (Nastradamus is his only trash album) now , i think that at defjam jay made it seem as if he had good intentions for nas , but look at hiphop is dead , and nigger. they were not handled well. and on top of that , he wanted to drop a lost tapes 2 , and that was met with a no. period. jay aint have any say in any of that ? i wonder. then , who helps (but really straight up writes) the jigga book ? dream. who claims that the nigger album had ghostwriters ? dream. who is jay “friends” with ? dream. come on man , tell me all this don’t look fishy ? i’d rather believe what i think to be true then any jay-z Illuminati theory.