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Video: HBO’s How To Make It In America – Season 02 (Trailer #2)

Pharrell cameo at 0:58. Pusha T will also be co-starring this season.

Season starts October 2nd at 10:30pm.

Spotted @ GQ.


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135 Responses to “Video: HBO’s How To Make It In America – Season 02 (Trailer #2)”

  1. Captain Planet Says:

    Only people who still buy albums are

    – audiophiles who get nostalgic about vinyl

    – baby boomers and older

    – prepubescent girls

  2. Captain Planet Says:

    Casual Listeners aren’t spending $10 for a piece of plastic that houses files they could have gotten for less the effort and time at home

    Especially in this economy

  3. jderrida Says:

    If you think THEY are going to buy your albums just to ” support ” …

    ^^^

    I agree with everything you have to say

    but the internet may not be as free and fun as it is now for much to longer

    Youtube brings down governments
    Google searches shrink multi-national corporation’s bottom line
    People store info advertisers crave to know on facebook everyday

    Thing are going to change

  4. Black brokaw Says:

    Buying j cole. Bought wtt. Shit might buy wales and drakes too

    Just cuz

  5. Captain Planet Says:

    but the internet may not be as free and fun as it is now for much to longer

    Youtube brings down governments
    Google searches shrink multi-national corporation’s bottom line
    People store info advertisers crave to know on facebook everyday

    Thing are going to change

    ————————-

    The internet isn’t going to close, b.

    I don’t know where you got this idea

    This isn’t China

  6. Captain Planet Says:

    2011

    Jon Huntsman looks too sane and sensible to be the Republican Nominee

  7. GMLLZ Says:

    Jon Huntsman

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Forgettable guy he is.

  8. Black brokaw Says:

    Oh yea forgot about ross and wayne. Might cop those as well

  9. Captain Planet Says:

    I WISH they tried to close the internet

    I’d just capitalize and give people for free everything the powers that be want them to pay for

    On my Pirate Bay Steez

  10. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    2011

    Jon Huntsman looks too sane and sensible to be the Republican Nominee

    ^was thinking the same damn thing this morning.

    He’s practically a conservative liberal in his politics too.

    I don’t see him being taken seriously because of it either.

    #IKnowShitSoundsCray

  11. Captain Planet Says:

    GMLLZ Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Jon Huntsman

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Forgettable guy he is.

    ————————–

    It’s certainly become a popularity contest

    That’s why every time Sarah Palin farts we get Network Breaking News

  12. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Bobby Genhil should have ran to complete the fuckery and talked about his “Clean Energy” campaign. Smh…

  13. GMLLZ Says:

    If a Republican wins the presidency….I fear for America.

    If so, lines like the ones in Atlanta (see below) will be multiplied many times over.

    Thousands (5000) of unemployed waited overnight, camping out in their business suits and office heels and braving the tormenting heat in Atlanta to stand in line for a job fair Thursday. Authorities treated 20 people for heat exhaustion as they struggled to keep the line moving and get people moved inside.
    The incredible turnout at the job fair comes on the heels of the state labor commissioner’s announcement that Georgia’s jobless rate rose.
    The state unemployment rate increased to 10.1 percent in July from the 9.9 percent in June. The unemployment rate for African-Americans stands at 15.9 percent, far above the national rate of 9.1 percent.
    July marks the 48th consecutive month that Georgia has exceeded the national unemployment rate.

  14. jderrida Says:

    The internet isn’t going to close, b.

    I don’t know where you got this idea

    This isn’t China

    ^^^

    Not close but

    Intense monitoring of web searches
    Higher prices (Maybe be affordable for some)
    Internet Kill switch
    Bandwidth/time quotas
    list goes on and on

  15. GMLLZ Says:

    abcnews.go.com/Business/thousands-show-job-fair-jobless-rate-rises/story?id=14336519

  16. Harlem World Says:

    I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

    I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

    J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.

  17. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

    I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

    J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.

    ^i’ll buy the damn record just skip the tracks of him Lauryn Hill’ing.

    “you embarrassing us” -Stalley

  18. Captain Planet Says:

    Not close but

    Intense monitoring of web searches
    Higher prices (Maybe be affordable for some)
    Internet Kill switch
    Bandwidth/time quotas
    list goes on and on

    ———————————

    I don’t think it makes business sense

    To all of a sudden make people pay for something we have enjoyed this long for free

    I know the internet is crucial and most business and people would have to pay if it happened

    But I don’t think it will, it’s too extreme

    And all these hackers world wide won’t allow it

    The internet thrives on being available to almost everyone

    Putting a toll booth at the door decreases its value

  19. jderrida Says:

    ^i’ll buy the damn record just skip the tracks of him Lauryn Hill’ing.

    “you embarrassing us” -Stalley

    ^^^

    That is 9.99 Cole is going to need

    *daps*

    I think Cole can make a living from underground money tho

  20. Captain Planet Says:

    Harlem World Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I’m not saying if buying records is popular or not.

    I’m saying fans usually buy music from their favorite artists.

    J Cole’s fans won’t – which is why he will flop.

    ————————-

    I’m saying times have changed

    People go to shows of artists they like

    Festivals and Concerts run this music industry

    Buying albums almost seems pretentious at this point

    It’s like wearing a pin on your shirt ” Hey I support this artist ”

    Okay, that great. So do we when we spend $45 + to see them live and in person

  21. why? Says:

    J. Cole will sell 80-100k.

  22. Captain Planet Says:

    CNN Breaking News

    Gadhafi’s Last Stand.

    It might be all over Harlem …

  23. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Breaking News:

    Lybian Leader May Be Readying For Last Push: Ghadafi’s Last Stand

    -CNN

    Smh…..

    On To The Next One: Syria

  24. Captain Planet Says:

    How can someone accuse me of not supporting an artist

    Let’s just look at this financially

    $45 for a show > $10 for an album

    Let’s be real here

  25. Captain Planet Says:

    J. Cole will sell 80-100k.

    ————————-

    I would be surprised if he got this high

    Big Sean sold about this much and he had smash singles and just as many female fans as Cole, maybe more

  26. Harlem World Says:

    I’m saying times have changed

    People go to shows of artists they like

    ===========================
    I’m not saying this isn’t true.

    But a lot of live hip hop shows are wack – better off just rolling with the album.

  27. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    How can someone accuse me of not supporting an artist

    Let’s just look at this financially

    $45 for a show > $10 for an album

    Let’s be real here

    ^co-sigh.

    Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?

  28. Captain Planet Says:

    But a lot of live hip hop shows are wack – better off just rolling with the album.

    ————————-

    A lot of albums are wack

    If I’m going to a show, I really like the artist (n)

    I dL a lot of albums I don’t even listen to once

  29. Captain Planet Says:

    Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?

    ————————–

    I’m saying !!!

  30. why? Says:

    Wale sold 30k, Cudi sold 100k, Drake 600k (i think). I think J. Cole could do alright in the first week.

  31. Harlem World Says:

    Let’s just look at this financially

    $45 for a show > $10 for an album

    Let’s be real here

    ========================

    You wanna be realistic, but J Cole is not Drake or another big headline act.

    $20 entry is pushing it for Cole. Shit, I’d even say $15 is too much.

  32. Captain Planet Says:

    Not to mention that shows usually skip all the record label bullshit ( Unless you go 360)

    When Lil Jon was damn near the biggest artist in America, his label was fucking out of his money

    He was sustaining on his shows

    You think he cared when 10 people in the stands are holding up his album he wasn’t getting paid for ?

  33. jderrida Says:

    I don’t think it makes business sense

    To all of a sudden make people pay for something we have enjoyed this long for free

    ^^^

    Phase 1 of the business model: Network Externality

    If you own the only computer in the world with an internet connection it would be worthless

    As you said before the internet only works if we all have access

    That is why the industry model now is just charge for access

    But “we off that”, people need/crave internet access

    The industry has now foster enough demand that ISPs will/have begin/begun to do things as:

    1. Charging for different internet speeds, forcing non-payers to extremely low speeds capabilities
    2. Charging people to get access to certain websites, you pay X dollars a year to visit 100 websites or XX dollars for 500 websites
    3. Charging for usage time like cell phone minutes
    4. Increase web monitoring by storing web history in a central database

    The time is now

    prepare for it

  34. Harlem World Says:

    No J Cole show is $50.

  35. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Harlem,

    I’ve bought wack albums from artists but seen them perform live and rock the crowd.

    It’s all a gamble.

    But me putting more money in the artist’s pocket shows that my contributions were greater to his cause than paying his corporate sponsor.

  36. Big_seth Says:

    lol.

    @TS,

    check your email.

  37. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    I payed $25 for Cole here in the Chi.

    He did good. You could tell he has a better stage presence than his wax persona.

    Well worth it.

  38. Captain Planet Says:

    You wanna be realistic, but J Cole is not Drake or another big headline act.

    $20 entry is pushing it for Cole. Shit, I’d even say $15 is too much.

    ———————-

    Times have changed

    Performances used to promote albums

    Now albums and mixtapes promote performances

    If after he drops his album, the response to the music doesn’t warrant a higher performance rate is he a viable artist ?

    If you ain’t eating in performances, you ain’t eating

  39. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    @Seth,

    Cool. Will do.

  40. Samir Says:

    Troubleshooter1900 Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
    Like nigga, you want this $50 at the door (no Kev) or you want a point for your billboard stance at 9.99 that’ll put like 15 cents in ya pocket?

    ^^^

    Word. But for my favorite artists, it’s not really an either/or thing for me – I’ll buy the CD and cop tickets to their show. I like owning CDs, though.

  41. Captain Planet Says:

    1. Charging for different internet speeds, forcing non-payers to extremely low speeds capabilities
    2. Charging people to get access to certain websites, you pay X dollars a year to visit 100 websites or XX dollars for 500 websites
    3. Charging for usage time like cell phone minutes
    4. Increase web monitoring by storing web history in a central database

    The time is now

    prepare for it

    ————————

    This isn’t happening

    You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

    Fear Sells

  42. jderrida Says:

    $45 for a show > $10 for an album

    ^^^

    Worked for The Roots

    Grinding > Corporate Rolodex

    Wale and Mr. X should know this by now

    *Raises fist and buys show ticket*
    *Yells power to the people out loud*

  43. GMLLZ Says:

    It’s certainly become a popularity contest

    That’s why every time Sarah Palin farts we get Network Breaking News

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    True. But she won’t win anything. I don’t see how Obama doesn’t get reelected unless the economy gets much worse. The best bet the republicans got is probably Mitt Romney. Once the truth about Rick Perry’s “job creation” in Texas is exposed, if rationale prevails, he will no longer be a contender. Plus he’s from Texas.

  44. why? Says:

    People standing around recording shit for their blogs and tumblrs <<<<<

    A lot of times the crowd can make a show feel less exciting.

  45. GMLLZ Says:

    This isn’t happening

    You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

    Fear Sells

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Totally 100% agree.

  46. Captain Planet Says:

    Harlem your point of argument right now

    People should pay $10 for Cole’s album because it cost less to go to a show right now ?

    So established artists that charge $50 + for a show – it’s okay to just go to their shows ?

    Is that what you’re saying ?

  47. jderrida Says:

    This isn’t happening

    ^^^

    Google Net neutrality

    But I do read into a lot of things without a grain of salt

  48. Captain Planet Says:

    True. But she won’t win anything. I don’t see how Obama doesn’t get reelected unless the economy gets much worse. The best bet the republicans got is probably Mitt Romney. Once the truth about Rick Perry’s “job creation” in Texas is exposed, if rationale prevails, he will no longer be a contender. Plus he’s from Texas.

    ————————-

    Obama’s is in cold water right now

    The economy is terrible enough to kick him out

    And young people won’t have his back like last time, this is the highest undergrad unemployment in decades

    It’s all about jobs jobs jobs

    Obama is running against the unemployment rate

  49. Captain Planet Says:

    *Harlem I don’t understand your point of argument right now

  50. THe KiD FRanKiE Says:

    You’re reading too many fear-mongering sites and overreacting

    Fear Sells

    ^ I lol’d

  51. jderrida Says:

    CD vs Shows

    Nah, if the debate what is better

    The winner is both

    CD + Sells

    I just don’t want to help a lot of artist like that tho

  52. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    *DEAD* @ me and CP posting the same story at the same time tho.

    Niggas is paying close attention.

    We watching.

  53. GMLLZ Says:

    abcnews.go.com/Business/thousands-show-job-fair-jobless-rate-rises/story?id=14336519

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    “The Congressional Black Caucus decided to take matters into their own hands,” said Gunaratna. “They are tired of Republicans’ inaction that prevents bills from moving forward. This is a real tangible opportunity for our constituents.”

    ^^^^^^^^

    What a fucking joke —> “But many of the companies were government agencies who couldn’t take applications and were directing these weary visitors to websites where they could apply online.”

    So these people waited for hours, some overnight, in blistering heat to apply for jobs they could ONLY APPLY FOR ONLINE! Thank you Congressional Black Caucus for your intelligent coordination of another very useful event.

  54. Captain Planet Says:

    Gadhafi’s days are numbered …

  55. Harlem World Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    *Harlem I don’t understand your point of argument right now

    ===========================================
    I said J COLE fans should buy the album if they wanna support J COLE. It’s not like he’s selling out shows.

    I don’t know where The Roots and Lil Jon came into this.

    It’s as simple as that. J COLE fans should buy J COLE’s record. That is all.

  56. Captain Planet Says:

    So these people waited for hours, some overnight, in blistering heat to apply for jobs they could ONLY APPLY FOR ONLINE! Thank you Congressional Black Caucus for your intelligent coordination of another very useful event.

    ———————-

    SMH …

  57. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Captain Planet
    0 mins ago
    Gadhafi’s days are numbered …

    ^Yeah.

    R.I.P. Omar

  58. GMLLZ Says:

    It’s all about jobs jobs jobs

    Obama is running against the unemployment rate

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    He’s supposed to be announcing something in September. Really doesn’t matter what he announces because it has to pass through the House and the Senate afterwards and it will take months.

    Why did Obama want to postpone the debt ceiling stuff until after the election? Hmmmmmmm….pending austerity measures soon to be passed. Take a look at Europe and you’ll get an idea. Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.

  59. Captain Planet Says:

    I said J COLE fans should buy the album if they wanna support J COLE. It’s not like he’s selling out shows.

    I don’t know where The Roots and Lil Jon came into this.

    It’s as simple as that. J COLE fans should buy J COLE’s record. That is all.

    ———————

    Why isn’t he selling out shows ?

    Where are all these fans if he’s not selling out shows ?

    Kreyshawn just sold out Highline Ballroom in NYC !

    We can agree to disagree

    I just think it’s time for it to stop being taboo for not buying albums

    That’s so last decade

  60. GMLLZ Says:

    Pusha T will also be co-starring this season.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Does G.O.O.D. music have some sort of deal with this show? I know Cons is hatin.

  61. Captain Planet Says:

    Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

    ———————

    Uh oh …

  62. Black Says:

    wtf?

  63. Harlem World Says:

    ok, lets be realistic

    lets say he does a 20 leg tour at $10k each show (lets be real, he has no hits out) – thats $200k approx

    350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

    whats the bigger profit?

    so yeah, you should buy the cd if you really wanna support

  64. jderrida Says:

    Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.

    ^^^

    Not going to happen – You don’t direct government spending to debt relief entirely while your economy floats near recession levels.

    Are debt is not as bad as the PIGS

    US treasures are the safest investment vehicle right now

    No need for US austerity

    and even if Obama tried he couldn’t do it

  65. Captain Planet Says:

    Why did Obama want to postpone the debt ceiling stuff until after the election? Hmmmmmmm….pending austerity measures soon to be passed. Take a look at Europe and you’ll get an idea. Austerity is not good for a reelection campaign.

    ———————-

    Could be …

    But obviously the inevitable political clashes weren’t going to help his reelection campaign either

    Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

    He’s a pragmatist

    The economy needs cuts AND investment

    He’s going to want to do both

  66. Big_seth Says:

    damn,

    when did all the smart niggas get back.

    the comments been kinda low brow for a minute.

    preciate the response TS.

    *daps*

  67. Harlem World Says:

    cd, itunes, whatever…you get the point

  68. Black brokaw Says:

    I dont thinks its taboo. Its just that most music thats being released is wack artistically

  69. Black Says:

    I just think it’s time for it to stop being taboo for not buying albums

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Sheeeeit it aint been that way to me for years lol.

    I used to cop albums from bootleg man in the 90’s, now i just dl. I dont give a fuck about supporting these niggas. Cole gotta degree, if the shit too hectic he can try and get a gig.

  70. Harlem World Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

    ———————

    Uh oh …

    ======================
    LOL, you sound surprised.

  71. Albert Findsdimes Says:

    LF: Avatar the series>>>

  72. Captain Planet Says:

    Harlem World Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    ok, lets be realistic

    lets say he does a 20 leg tour at $10k each show (lets be real, he has no hits out) – thats $200k approx

    350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

    whats the bigger profit?

    so yeah, you should buy the cd if you really wanna support

    ————————-

    C’mon Harlem

    Any kid can see you’re being optimistic about the CD sales and pessimistic about the shows

    How in the world would Cole sell 350 K albums ???

    By the same token those fans that could be buying his albums could be going to his shows

    He does that same 20 leg show for $30 K

    That’s 500 K ! He can hire a personal eyebrow tweezer !

  73. Harlem World Says:

    I dont give a fuck about supporting these niggas. Cole gotta degree, if the shit too hectic he can try and get a gig.

    ================
    cosign

    I’m just saying IF people wanna support their artists they should buy the album. Unless it’s Jigga or someone balling from tour money.

    IF.

  74. Captain Planet Says:

    Harlem World Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    # Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

    ———————

    Uh oh …

    ======================
    LOL, you sound surprised.

    ———————–

    Worried.

    Those guys one-upism gets out of control quick

    I just realized there haven’t been those 45 Killed in Jerusalem News Reports daily for awhile

  75. Black Says:

    None of these Tea Party psychos will win a general election because I guarantee the way they’ve galvanized their base is gonna work against them.

    Once those fucked up ideas hit the mainstream, people are gonna rally just to make sure their kept out of office.

  76. jderrida Says:

    I’m just saying IF people wanna support their artists they should buy the album.

    ^^^

    Co-Sign

    People know this

    but I/we/everyone don’t want too

  77. LeRoy Green Says:

    Median – The Sender >>>>>>>

    9th Wonder/Khrysis soul beats >>>>>>>

  78. Harlem World Says:

    He does that same 20 leg show for $30 K

    That’s 500 K ! He can hire a personal eyebrow tweezer !

    ========================-==========
    He has no hits out! He’s been a supporting act for Drake & Rihanna tryna get his buzz up.

    350 k after 6 months is realistic for Cole, I don’t understand the problem.

  79. Captain Planet Says:

    350 k sales of his album = $350000 for j cole (approx a dollar an album after he recoups)

    ———————-

    And I know you coming from the industry know it’s not coming out this clean

    He’s got to repay his advancement, promotion etc …

    Even if God shined his light on him and he did sell 350K who knows if he’s just breaking even ?

    There’s no question artist get a far greater share of their Show Money

    Show Money is YOUR Money – Forgot Who

  80. Black Says:

    Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

    ^^^^^^^^^

    De Facto Truce!? Thats a funny way of describing “the time it takes to reload.”

  81. Harlem World Says:

    This is all speculation & opinion anyway.

    I’m just speaking statistically.

  82. Captain Planet Says:

    He has no hits out! He’s been a supporting act for Drake & Rihanna tryna get his buzz up.

    350 k after 6 months is realistic for Cole, I don’t understand the problem.

    ——————-

    C’mon Harlem !

    He has no hits so why would 350 Thousand people buy his album ???

  83. Captain Planet Says:

    Black Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Hamas Ends De Facto Truce with Israel

    ^^^^^^^^^

    De Facto Truce!? Thats a funny way of describing “the time it takes to reload.”

    ———————-

    HAHAHA

    That’s actually really funny

  84. GMLLZ Says:

    Sean Falyon is good people.

  85. Black Says:

    i thought artists signed to majors get like pennies off of every record sold. That was why them niggas had to sell 1 mill just to recoup or they would be in the red.

  86. Brolic Fonts Says:

    *jumps in convo unasked*

    For the 1st time, this year I decided buying albums is just not worth it. I musta donated $10,000 to the record industry over the years, but it just dont make sense to me anymore. I used to be the biggest “support the artist” nigg, but its over.

    Sad part is I dont go to live shows unless they dirt cheap, a date or rare old classics like Sade or whatever because my home/car system sound better than some wack niggas screaming in my ear.

    just keeping it real, it is what it is. all the best to music artists, hope that money come form somewhere

  87. The Cool Says:

    _ _ _ >>> Working on a Friday night

  88. jderrida Says:

    just keeping it real, it is what it is. all the best to music artists, hope that money come form somewhere

    ^^^

    Yeah………

  89. Captain Planet Says:

    People are going to more shows than ever

    Festivals and Concerts RUN this Industry

    That’s why WTT sound like it does

    Jay-Z himself said they have to compete with the Bonos and Coldplays of the world for Slots (n)

    It’s the artist’s bread and butter in 2011

  90. Brolic Fonts Says:

    >>>>>>>>>> unknown nigga rap concerts
    >>>>>>>>>> random niggas screaming in your ears
    >>>>>>>>>> 2742513 to 1 male to female

  91. Black Says:

    Sad part is I dont go to live shows unless they dirt cheap, a date or rare old classics like Sade or whatever because my home/car system sound better than some wack niggas screaming in my ear.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    hip Hop live is still the worst, at least for the majority of artists. There has been a progression in recent years but the fact remains that its definitely better outta speakers.

  92. MK Says:

    Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.

    It’s the same reason Wale ain’t out there knocking out dates. His fee is dumb high for who the fuck he is. Just cause you got 1M Twitter followers, who the fuck cares? These artists performance fees are now inflated because records don’t sell anymore. That much is obvious to me at least.

    BTW, people can say what they want about Wiz, but he banked 11M last year. Been on the road steady for like 3 years. Hard to fault him for that work ethic.

  93. Captain Planet Says:

    I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

    It’s a Recession and you’re getting in your car ( gas ) to go to the store ( time ) to buy an album ( cash )

    When you can just get the same EXACT files at home without the waste of gas, time and money

    Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

    Makes real economic sense.

  94. Brolic Fonts Says:

    People are going to more shows than ever

    Festivals and Concerts RUN this Industry

    ^it does seem like people going to live shows alot more tho. But very, very few live shows have sounded better than stereo or headphones to me. Especially rap concerts

    niggas is oldheads, b

  95. Harlem World Says:

    He has no hits so why would 350 Thousand people buy his album ???

    ====================================

    Over 6 months – maybe 12 like B.O.B did – slow but steady build up.

    I buy 2-3 new albums a year – (new as in released the year I buy it in.)

    I go to more shows then albums I buy.

    But I’m just saying…Cole needs them sales – Its nothing to me, im not a fan.

  96. Black brokaw Says:

    You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is

  97. Brolic Fonts Says:

    i’d probably go to a Lil B concert to witness the cult

    *ducks while cooking*

  98. Harlem World Says:

    Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

    =====================
    Who said this? Fans USUALLY buy albums…

    I said J COLE fans need to buy J COLE’S album IF they really wanna support.

    You’re taking my words out of context.

  99. Captain Planet Says:

    You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is

    ————————-

    You can take as many personal shots as you want

    But the Black Unemployment rate is 15%

    Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

    SMH …

  100. GMLLZ Says:

    Not going to happen – You don’t direct government spending to debt relief entirely while your economy floats near recession levels.

    Are debt is not as bad as the PIGS

    US treasures are the safest investment vehicle right now

    No need for US austerity

    and even if Obama tried he couldn’t do it

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    No need for austerity? Are you dense? Austerity on some level MUST happen. New revenue and/or further gov’t spending cuts. Do you have any idea why Standard & Poor’s downgraded the U.S. credit rating from AAA to AA+? Evidently not.

    It will happen. It has already begun, albeit on a lower level. First stops for gov’t cuts (thus far) are defense spending (Boeing, Raytheon, etc…will hit Northern VA very hard) and Medicare/Medicaid.

    Go ahead and invest treasuries and earn 2% on your money. Good luck with that. Eventually your gains will be eroded by inflation.

    Our > Are btw.

    Our debt is just as bad as the PIIGS (not PIGS). The difference is in the past we could print our way out of it…day-by-day this appears to no longer be an option. Everyone is waiting to hear what Bernanke says at Jackson Hole in the coming days.

    The EU/euro is a much more complicated currency situation than one country that controls its own currency.

  101. Black Says:

    Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    That line of thinking just never made sense to me. I wouldnt go to a store and pay a dub for some shit that the Africans on the ave had for 5.

    I’m not paying anything for something that can be emailed or dled for free.

  102. Brolic Fonts Says:

    You must be hella broke Using the recession as an excuse to not buy an album is

    ————————-

    You can take as many personal shots as you want

    But the Black Unemployment rate is 15%

    Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

    SMH …

    ^Learn em!

    I thot I heard 20% somewhere

  103. Harlem World Says:

    # MK Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.

    It’s the same reason Wale ain’t out there knocking out dates. His fee is dumb high for who the fuck he is. Just cause you got 1M Twitter followers, who the fuck cares? These artists performance fees are now inflated because records don’t sell anymore. That much is obvious to me at least.

    BTW, people can say what they want about Wiz, but he banked 11M last year. Been on the road steady for like 3 years. Hard to fault him for that work ethic.

    ====================
    exactly

    a guy like J COLE…lemme say it again

    a guy like J COLE….. needs to sell records

  104. GMLLZ Says:

    Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

    He’s a pragmatist

    ^^^^^^^^

    You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

  105. Captain Planet Says:

    Harlem World Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    I laugh at people who look down on me for not buying albums

    =====================
    Who said this? Fans USUALLY buy albums…

    I said J COLE fans need to buy J COLE’S album IF they really wanna support.

    You’re taking my words out of context.

    ——————————

    Fans USED to buy albums

    * Fixed *

    And that wasn’t directly at you Harlem, you know you my nigga (n)

    Other people had the same attitude on these boards

    It’s more at all the people who share these kinds of views in general

    Among the core of hip-hop fans, not buying albums is still taboo

    I think it’s time to get past that

    The onus is on the INDUSTRY to reconstruct their business model

    If people want to suffer because of their confusion that’s their fault

  106. Brolic Fonts Says:

    Let’s be real, you’re paying $10 for CD Liner Notes and the Plastic Container

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    That line of thinking just never made sense to me. I wouldnt go to a store and pay a dub for some shit that the Africans on the ave had for 5.

    I’m not paying anything for something that can be emailed or dled for free.

    ^its fukked, but true. Niggas better start singing country music. Them niggas the only loyal album buying fans.

    *buys hat boots and guitar*
    *moves to nashvile*
    *starts band named the country negras*

  107. Black Says:

    Yes, Niggas is broke, b.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    It aint even about that with me lol. this is America and if two places are offering the same product, one for 10 bucks and the other for free then I’m going the free route.

  108. Captain Planet Says:

    Brolic Fonts Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    i’d probably go to a Lil B concert to witness the cult

    *ducks while cooking*

    ————————-

    YOOOOOOO !!!

    I went to his show at Coachella

    It is QUITE the scene

    I’ve never been to a show like that

    So much Energy !

  109. Brolic Fonts Says:

    speaking of OBama, its funny to me how these niggas about to fuck up their country because they hate niggs. Just blocking evcerything because they want Obama and the country to fail together. Imagine if Obama get 4 more years.

    Emotions, belief and tradition is some powerful shit

  110. Captain Planet Says:

    Curren$y has one of the biggest movements in Hip-Hop

    NO ONE references his CD Sales

    But he goes state to state doing shows

    This is the new norm guys

  111. Black Says:

    You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.

  112. Captain Planet Says:

    It aint even about that with me lol. this is America and if two places are offering the same product, one for 10 bucks and the other for free then I’m going the free route.

    ——————-

    I’m Saying !!!

  113. Harlem World Says:

    # Black Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    i thought artists signed to majors get like pennies off of every record sold. That was why them niggas had to sell 1 mill just to recoup or they would be in the red.

    ====================
    its like approximately a dollar an album – after youve repaid the label

    if you dont you end up like ace hood

    if you were on a major and sold around 300k youd be alright, i dont know if its still the same now

  114. Captain Planet Says:

    Black Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.

    ———————-

    Co-sign

    Let’s solve problems

  115. NovemberEnd Says:

    Cole ain’t touching 30K a show. No one in their right mind putting that money on the table for J.Cole in this economy. I bet he racks 12-15 a show though.
    ^^^
    I don’t know he is Jay Z flagship artist, I could see him getting 30k or more a show.

    But maybe I’m overstating Shawn influence.They obviously letting this dude figure out this marketing & promoting thing by himself…lol

  116. Black Says:

    Cole probably needs to sell some records if he has any hope of getting to release a 2nd or 3rd. not selling albums does effect your pockets in the sense that it may get you dropped or shelved and severely limit your earning potential.

  117. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    *Daps Seth*

    No problem bro.

  118. GMLLZ Says:

    You’re right. Cuts have to happen. I wonder is Obama indirectly saying that he really has no convictions? Hmmmmm.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I actually like that in politicians tho. These dudes stick to political ideology like its fucking religion. Thats the reason shit aint getting done.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    I agree. But everyone has to have some convictions.

  119. Harlem World Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Curren$y has one of the biggest movements in Hip-Hop

    NO ONE references his CD Sales

    =====================
    and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

    plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

    hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter

  120. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    And the Recession is NOT an excuse to why niggas is broke. It is THE reason.

    Quit acting like everyone is as fortunate as you.

    Niggas was the first to go at most of these companies.

    Hell, I sho know I was.

  121. GMLLZ Says:

    18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

    ^^^^^^^^

    Word???? Wow. I feel like that’s what JCole needs to be charging.

  122. Harlem World Says:

    Qaddafi >>>

  123. Captain Planet Says:

    and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

    plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

    hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter

    ———————–

    And for Curren$y himself !

    He does the show, gets his money and walks the fuck out

    He doesn’t have to pay advancement, breakage – Nuna Dat

  124. Troubleshooter1900 Says:

    Truth be told,

    My account ain’t SEEING what it was seeing just a fuckin year ago.

    And I ain’t never been a lazy nigga. NEVER!!

    #RealNiggaShit

  125. Captain Planet Says:

    Hell

    With Show Money you can even dodge the IRS …

    * Scrambles IP Address *

  126. Black Says:

    Currensy & Wiz are marketing kingpins tho. Everyone wants to be part of something bigger than themselves(nh) and that Taylor Gang/JETS shit is perfect for the college crowd. That plus the fact that their selling the good parts of the college life in their music.

  127. Black Says:

    I definitely understand why the rich are afraid of class warfare and why they try to even avoid saying the word “poor”. If we divide ourselves along financial lines instead of race/religion the few kizzas with serious bread in this country would be in serious shit.

  128. Brolic Fonts Says:

    Everyone wants to be part of something bigger than themselves

    ^if you can figure out this marketing stratagey for any product/service right now you win

  129. Brolic Fonts Says:

    strategery

  130. Brolic Fonts Says:

    *cooks way out of c-section*

  131. NovemberEnd Says:

    Obama’s said himself he doesn’t walk around with set political principles

    He’s a pragmatist
    ^^^
    Which is fine, If he wasn’t such a god awful negotiator and he learned that when certain Republican ideas don’t work you think of another solution. Which usually turns out to be the opposite of Conservative thinking.

    You lower taxes and they don’t create jobs, you do all sorta of spending cuts to social programs that might help people get jobs, but you end up taking money of people pay checks…but you want people working and spending money to boost the economy?

    good luck with that

  132. MK Says:

    and if youve noticed, hes one of the few artists whose sales increase with every album

    plus hes not that much in comparison to others – 18 months ago he was on like 4g’s a show – which is nice loot for an hours work

    hell pack a 300 -400 venue for under 10 k, thats a good investment to a promoter
    =======================================
    THIS.

    Some of these artists who stay touring like Spitta have their price point figured out very well. Where it is advantageous for them AND the promoter. For those type of artists, making it advantageous for promoters keeps allowing them to get back to those smaller markets. Truth be told, for those artists ALL the markets are important. More shows, more dough. WIN-WIN.

    While artists like WHALE are still clueless and charging a dumb high fee. You have to be in one of the top markets to even come close to doing alright.

    I know Cole has a label behind him, but I was surprised to see he had all those dates locked down as a headliner. I guess it’s easy to forget the debate used to who will blow up bigger: Drake or Cole? That’s fucking jokes now.

    I still don’t see Cole being a good deal in the smaller markets. I don’t know how the tour was put together, but I still know he ain’t getting 30K a show. No one is that dumb.

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