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Young Jeezy – Hustle Hard (Remix) + Start It Up (Remix) [CDQ]

Jeezy jumps on Ace Hood & Swizzy’s Lex Luger instrumental.

Young Jeezy – Hustle Hard (Remix)

UPDATE: Lloyd Banks ft. Young Jeezy – Start It Up (Remix) [CDQ]

Props: DJ Folk

Previously: USDA ft. Young Jeezy – CTE Or Nothin’


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648 Responses to “Young Jeezy – Hustle Hard (Remix) + Start It Up (Remix) [CDQ]”

  1. Cypher Says:

    Royce before Slaughterhouse >>>>>>>>Royce after Slaughterhouse

    Death Is Certain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    ^
    accurate …. Only nigga in slaughterhouse who I can listen to besides Royce is Budden… And that nigga a cornball

    They got way to focused on punchlines and not making good music

    Sn – royces last album is slept on

  2. &What?! Says:

    > Young Jeezy at this moment in time.

  3. Hopp Says:

    ” I’m def gon try to do chin ups on that muthafugga do ”

    Aiight, fam. U kno’ the e-mail.

  4. &What?! Says:

    Yo, what’s the name of that Prodigy song in which he talks about some real shit? I forgot the name of it, but somebody posted a link once and shit was dope.

  5. Jackson7 Says:

    Blake Griffin’s father look like an older version of Birdman

    FACT

  6. &What?! Says:

    Prodigy – My World Is Empty Without You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  7. Hopp Says:

    O, so Papoose went in on 6 Foot 7 Foot ?

    Anyone have a link to that ?

  8. Jackson7 Says:

    Royce > Crooked i > Budden > the other dude

  9. &What?! Says:

    “Homie if I go to hell, and you make it to the pearly gates, tell that nigga God, we got beef. And tell that nigga Jesus I’mma see him when I see him, and when I see him, I’mma beat him like the movie.”

    Prodigy a fool for that one.

  10. Hoskins Says:

    Young Jeezy

    ^^^ Who??????

  11. SPITGAME Says:

    I was stuck in the past…. Back To The Future:
    SPITGAME
    9 mins ago
    I had bad chicks that blow cum bubbles like bubblegum
    Plus they ass lick, summer house be sippin’ rum

    SPITGAME
    7 mins ago
    Jackson7
    2 mins ago
    Royce > Crooked i > Budden > the other dude
    ^^^
    Yeah

    SPITGAME
    6 mins ago
    No BS-Chris Brown >>>>

  12. Captain Planet Says:

    Lil B and Kevin Durant about to go 1-on-1 in 21.

    thesource.com/blog/post/43666/Lil-B-Challenges-Kevin-Durant?thesource-prod=pu2sunf2e5navs2q112d25dde3

  13. Captain Planet Says:

    Rick Ross snagged Jeezy’s spot and that’s all she wrote.

  14. SPITGAME Says:

    Jeezy want his spot back, take two

  15. Captain Planet Says:

    Jeezy want his spot back, take two

    ^^^

    RIck Ross: No mo soup fo yo!

  16. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    jeezy need to go ahead and reach out to Lex to get his wave back

  17. Hopp Says:

    ” Jeezy want his spot back ”

    That’s the sad thing, he don’t even.

    He’s putting out an U.S.D.A. album, from what I’ve heard. He already tried the freestyle route last year … So many times I lost count. None of the freestyle mixtapes he put out worked.

  18. why? Says:

    DJ Kool Herc >>>

    Get well soon.

  19. AmpGeez a.k.a. Amphernee Hardaway Says:

    Jeezy needs better weed carriers.

  20. SPITGAME Says:

    @Hopp

    That 1000 grams was tough… I think it’s smart for Jeez to put that USDA joint out, get some money and have some more time to perfect TM103 and the marketing strategy… As a fan these freestyles let me know he working…

  21. Captain Planet Says:

    Jeezy needs better weed carriers.

    ^^^

    The lost art of weed carrying … Murphy Lee > most weed carriers of today

  22. Cypher Says:

    Jeezy just isn’t as versatile as ross… There’s no way to get his spot back.

    It’s like going on leave from work and be replaced by a person with a degree…you GED ain’t shit

  23. SPITGAME Says:

    Cashmere Cavalli Aka Snowbunny Sampson
    15 mins ago
    jeezy need to go ahead and reach out to Lex to get his wave back
    ^^^
    And THIS… If I wanna hear anybody over them hard Lex Luger joints aside from Ross it’s Mr 17.5

  24. Captain Planet Says:

    @Hopp

    That 1000 grams was tough… I think it’s smart for Jeez to put that USDA joint out, get some money and have some more time to perfect TM103 and the marketing strategy… As a fan these freestyles let me know he working…

    ^^^

    1000 Grams was tough, but I was disappointed I was only one of a chosen few who could still enjoy Jeezy. Sometimes you don’t have it anymore and that’s that. I don’t think he can resuscitate it. It’s unfortunate but I didn’t make the rules.

  25. Captain Planet Says:

    Jeezy just isn’t as versatile as ross… There’s no way to get his spot back.

    It’s like going on leave from work and be replaced by a person with a degree…you GED ain’t shit

    ^^^

    I love Ross but I’m not going to say he’s smarter or more qualified (insert cop jokes) than Jeezy, but this is popular music and the rules are New > Old

  26. SPITGAME Says:

    Jeezy just isn’t as versatile as ross
    ^^^
    I guess… I don’t know The Recession makes me think otherwise, couple Tracks off TM101…

    I don’t know if Jeezy is the type of rapper I wanna see go in a different type a lane… Niggas really can’t talk that real life trap shit like Jeez do… I think Jeezy is just as important, if not more than a Ross… The authenticity speaks volumes

  27. Hopp Says:

    ” more time to perfect TM103 ”

    More time, tho ?

    I see what u sayin’ about the freestyles lettin’ people know he alive. I’ve been there, it worked for me on o10.

    But after that much time, I kinda don’t want him to keep it safe. An U.S.D.A. album it’s the smart thing to do because it’s also the safer thing to do, who’s expectin’ an U.S.D.A. album ? There’s no expectation to match.

    TM103, on the other hand … If we exclude everything and consider only TODII, it’s already sumn’ tough to match.

  28. Hopp Says:

    Young Money General Mack Maine told XXLMag.com yesterday (January 27) that Wayne is almost finished with the eagerly awaited Carter IV LP. “I was in the studio all night workin’ on this Carter IV,” he told XXL. “We got David Banner coming in tonight, so hopefully he’ll come with somethin’. We try to make sure — he kind of makes every album. He made Tha Carter III, and made [We Are Young Money].”

    ^ Mack Maine thinks Lollipop was Wayne’s debut single …

  29. SPITGAME Says:

    Transactions illegitimate cuz life is still a bitch,
    And then ya die but for now life close yo eyes an feel this dick…

  30. SPITGAME Says:

    ^ Mack Maine thinks Lollipop was Wayne’s debut single …
    ^^^
    LOL! Deezle and Jim Jonsin produced that tho, DB sampled it for his single… David Banner did the jawn wit Juelz and Fab on c3

  31. Cypher Says:

    LOL! Deezle and Jim Jonsin produced that tho, DB sampled it for his single… David Banner did the jawn wit Juelz and Fab on c3

    ^
    and that lala beat which is crack btw

  32. Captain Planet Says:

    Jeezy just isn’t as versatile as ross
    ^^^
    I guess… I don’t know The Recession makes me think otherwise, couple Tracks off TM101…

    I don’t know if Jeezy is the type of rapper I wanna see go in a different type a lane… Niggas really can’t talk that real life trap shit like Jeez do… I think Jeezy is just as important, if not more than a Ross… The authenticity speaks volumes

    ^^^

    THis is true. Jeezy CAN’T go in a different lane, the curse of being one-dimensional. But authenticity DOES speak volumes but as recent events have reminded us good music is heard the loudest.

  33. Hopp Says:

    ” Deezle and Jim Jonsin produced that tho, DB sampled it for his single… David Banner did the jawn wit Juelz and Fab on c3 ”

    O, say word ? O jus’ thought he did La La. And yeah, I kno’ Deezle and Jim handled Lollipop. From what I’ve heard from Deezle, tho, that was pretty much all Jim Jonsin.

  34. SPITGAME Says:

    More time, tho ?
    ^^
    I’m sayin the more time the better… He’s gotta AT LEAST match TOD2 with TM103… I’m sure he’s aware of the buzz for it being gone based off the singles he was tryna push so I think him and his team is gettin it right… Truthfully I think he just dropped them singles in the wrong order… He shoulda dropped Jizzle, then All White… And as underwhelming as they were, Lose My Mind would have brought that buzz back… Then drop the remix wit Drizzy to secure some sales… But whaddo I know…

  35. flinttown Says:

    Im gonna have faith in Jeezy until he puts out an album and proves otherwise. Bcuz the Recession was >>>>> and thats the last album he’s put out.

    s/n Young Gunz – Tough Luv >>>>>

    I forgot how nice this album was

  36. Cypher Says:

    I don’t know if Jeezy is the type of rapper I wanna see go in a different type a lane… Niggas really can’t talk that real life trap shit like Jeez do… I think Jeezy is just as important, if not more than a Ross… The authenticity speaks volumes

    ^
    all I’m saying is unless Jeezy grows as an artist he’s not gonna get his spot back from Ross.

    Jeezy will still be popular but not as much as he once was.

    Can you honestly think of a track that Jeezy can do but Ross can’t?

  37. Captain Planet Says:

    Can you honestly think of a track that Jeezy can do but Ross can’t?

    ^^

    Nope.

  38. Hopp Says:

    ” He’s gotta AT LEAST match TOD2 with TM103… I’m sure he’s aware of the buzz for it being gone ”

    I agree wit’ both of these, tho. I also think he’s aware how big of an album TM103 can be, judging off how he’s holding onto it. Lil Wayne put out two bridge-albums before the release of Carter IV, T.I. released a contrast album when he was unable to release King Uncaged, now Jeezy, if u ask him, he’ll still tell u TM103 is coming soon.

    But then again, this U.S.D.A. shit might jus’ be his bridge-album to TM103 … Wait n see, I guess.

  39. Hopp Says:

    ” Can you honestly think of a track that Jeezy can do but Ross can’t? ”

    Of course.

    Jizzle.

  40. Cypher Says:

    Jeezy had hits last year “lose my mind” OG version >>>

    Hell TOD 2 had some joints on it. I hope Jeezy don’t think he gone do Ross or Drake type numbers… Without some bitcb or some nigga that sounds like a bitch on the hook.

  41. Captain Planet Says:

    ” Can you honestly think of a track that Jeezy can do but Ross can’t? ”

    Of course.

    Jizzle.

    ^^^

    *Quizzical Look*

  42. SPITGAME Says:

    Mannerisms of a Young Bobby Deniro

  43. Hopp Says:

    ” all I’m saying is unless Jeezy grows as an artist he’s not gonna get his spot back from Ross. ”

    Makes sense.

    I don’t think he’s goin’ for that, tho. After many attempts, Drumma Boy finally got him to record a song wit’ Trey Songz and I don’t doubt he’ll be releasin’ that. [some R&B-geared shit, not like the song they had on The Recession.]

  44. Cypher Says:

    ” Can you honestly think of a track that Jeezy can do but Ross can’t? ”

    Of course.

    Jizzle.

    ^
    between that and All white Everything… You’d think he was doin soundtracks for pornos

  45. Captain Planet Says:

    ” He’s gotta AT LEAST match TOD2 with TM103… I’m sure he’s aware of the buzz for it being gone ”

    I agree wit’ both of these, tho. I also think he’s aware how big of an album TM103 can be, judging off how he’s holding onto it. Lil Wayne put out two bridge-albums before the release of Carter IV, T.I. released a contrast album when he was unable to release King Uncaged, now Jeezy, if u ask him, he’ll still tell u TM103 is coming soon.

    But then again, this U.S.D.A. shit might jus’ be his bridge-album to TM103 … Wait n see, I guess.

    ^^^

    Jeezy is not Weezy, and I don’t think he’s holding on to TM103 thinking he has a gem. He’s holding it back because he has no buzz similar to the Game. And him putting this USDA album is giving Ross more time to consolidate his position and more time for whatever buzz Jeezy has to dwindle.

  46. Cypher Says:

    It’s show and prove time for Jeezy will he be like Ross or Gucci Two Scoops

  47. Captain Planet Says:

    Hip-Hop historians will debate forever how Rick Ross engaged in battles with 50 Cent AND Young Jeezy and came out EVEN better while the other two struggle to regain their momentum

  48. Captain Planet Says:

    It’s show and prove time for Jeezy will he be like Ross or Gucci Two Scoops

    ^^^

    I love Jeezy(nh) but I think I’ve already come to the conclusion you guys are refusing to admit … He’s done. Him and the Game. R.I.P. ( I liked some cuts from Purp and Patron btw but it doesn’t alter the situation)

  49. Cypher Says:

    Hip-Hop historians will debate forever how Rick Ross engaged in battles with 50 Cent AND Young Jeezy and came out EVEN better while the other two struggle to regain their momentum

    ^
    Ross isn’t doin that well… Lets not get stupid

  50. SPITGAME Says:

    I don’t think he’s goin’ for that, tho.
    ^^^
    This… I don’t think Jeezy is that interested in gaining a huge commercial following… I think he wants to stay true to what he does… I think the commercial success he did gain was unprecedented for what he was doin on his records and he ran wit it but not at the expense of his integrity… IMO he only tried to improve his lyrical ability… Which is why I became a fan in the 1st place… Really the question should be what kind of Ross song couldn’t Jeezy do?

  51. Cypher Says:

    Tho Ross is more versatile then Jeezy… It’s by a small margin. Mores dealing with song selection, and lyricism.

    Ross only has 1.5 flows, and if he doesn’t change it up he’s going tone in the same boat as Jeezy.

    In fact Ross has maintained popularity for one reason… Constantly putting out music. Trust if that nigga took a break he’d be putting out a Triple C album to try to get his buzz back

  52. SPITGAME Says:

    ^
    Ross isn’t doin that well… Lets not get stupid
    ^^
    Seriously.. Ross had 2010… Ok… A nigga like Jeezy run was extensive… Jeezy had one not so good quarter… Until he actually catches a brick, his spot is still his…

  53. Harlem World Says:

    Mandela fallen ill again

    get well soon

    *daps the room*

  54. Captain Planet Says:

    Hip-Hop historians will debate forever how Rick Ross engaged in battles with 50 Cent AND Young Jeezy and came out EVEN better while the other two struggle to regain their momentum

    ^
    Ross isn’t doin that well… Lets not get stupid

    ^^^

    Yo chump chill, I’m looking at my post and I said came out better. Didn’t say legendary. You may be a Ross hater but let’s not act like he’s not relevant. He had one of the biggest years in 2010. Took your said artist’s position and brushed off a beef with one of the the most successful artists of the past decade who’s KNOWN for ending careers.

    StopIt5

  55. Hopp Says:

    ” Trust if that nigga took a break he’d be putting out a Triple C album to try to get his buzz back ”

    Maybach Music III would do the trick.

    And I swear TM103 would already be in stores had Jeezy kept As Real As It Gets to himself and released that as a first single, followed by Lose My Mind.

  56. Hopp Says:

    Whattup, HW

  57. Captain Planet Says:

    ^
    Ross isn’t doin that well… Lets not get stupid
    ^^
    Seriously.. Ross had 2010… Ok… A nigga like Jeezy run was extensive… Jeezy had one not so good quarter… Until he actually catches a brick, his spot is still his…

    ^^^

    Artist Buzz is almost as important if not more so as your last album sales. Drake parlayed buzz into a platinum album, so did Nicki Minaj, so did Lil Wayne. Is Game going to drop an album without buzz? You really think Jeezy will?

  58. Cypher Says:

    Really the question should be what kind of Ross song couldn’t Jeezy do?

    ^
    Free Mason, BMF, MC Hammer, Devil in a new dress…

    To be clear I’m not saying i don’t like Jeezy….but if he wants to maintain the same level of success as before he needs to evolve.

    Or watch his fan base dwindle…as niggas get older

  59. Harlem World Says:

    time flies

    it feels like only yesterday Jeezy was at the Inaugaration and Put On and Love In This Club were in heavy rotation

  60. Captain Planet Says:

    Until he actually catches a brick, his spot is still his…

    ^^^

    Nothing in Hip-Hop is guaranteed. Even Jay-Z got to reinvent himself every other if not every album.

  61. Hoskins Says:

    Peter piper pickin’ peppers, Rick pitched poems

  62. Captain Planet Says:

    time flies

    it feels like only yesterday Jeezy was at the Inaugaration and Put On and Love In This Club were in heavy rotation

    ^^^

    Yup.

    ” It happens that quick … “

  63. Alpha Says:

    Hip-Hop historians will debate forever how Rick Ross engaged in battles with 50 Cent AND Young Jeezy and came out EVEN better while the other two struggle to regain their momentum

    ^^

    Ross was smart though. 50 got him that extra exposure & he probably felt like he had nothing to lose.

  64. Captain Planet Says:

    Peter piper pickin’ peppers, Rick pitched poems

    ^^^

    Ross is more of artist than Jeezy. Jeezy make that hustle talk sound beautiful.

  65. Alpha Says:

    Or watch his fan base dwindle

    ^^

    It started to dwindle when he got better as a rapper.

    So that was already in effect. Jeezy was God status to the city in 05 over here…

  66. Mental Says:

    David Banner did the jawn wit Juelz and Fab on c3
    —————————————————-
    Rofl. That was produced by Alchemist sir

  67. Black Brokaw Says:

    Banner did LaLaLa on C3

  68. Hopp Says:

    ” Bredahs and chicks in here are stuck on stupid. lol
    Im out tho, 1.
    Get my tape. lol ”

    LOL.

    That’s that ” Yo, fuck y’all, I’m outta here … I’ll also be sellin’ white T-Shirts at the entrance ‘case anyone is interested … Fuck whitcha boi … ” swag.

  69. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Jersey you fucking cocksucker I see you taking shots when I ain’t around to retort. You know the rules Fucker. SMH..

    *daps jerz anyway*

    *spits in his pabst blue ribbon*

  70. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Also I wanted to add – the trap boys where I live would fucking DIE for jeezy. When he drops an album, they will go buy it, and they will pretend it’s hot even if it ain’t.

  71. Cypher Says:

    well i always happened to be their first… so i’m the only home training they really ever had… lol

    ^
    smh if you believe this

  72. SPITGAME Says:

    Mental Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    David Banner did the jawn wit Juelz and Fab on c3
    —————————————————-
    Rofl. That was produced by Alchemist sir
    ^^
    rofl… I thought lalala was the one with them on it, I forgot…. I havent revisited that jawn in a while… I still dont know what that one is called

  73. Hopp Says:

    This Start It Up verse was actually not bad …

  74. SPITGAME Says:

    To all the people who are saying were off taking sides and talking sales…

    You forget Hip Hop is competitive… And Hip Hop fans are just as competitiive, when talking about their favorite types of rappers, so discussions will include that type of shit…

    But if you scroll up in this post youll see that it was a discussion about Jeezy and wether or not hell be able to produce something good… Other people turned into Ross V Jeezy….

  75. SPITGAME Says:

    Neither was the Hustle Hard verse Hopp….

    As it stands

    Wayne>Jeezy>Ross>Ace Hood

  76. Remixznflow Says:

    # A-LO Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    just cause a female suck a dick don’t mean she ain’t got no home training..

    ^^^

    lmao right?! sheeeit u can’t tell me after all these long days of stress and leadin our country and what not that Michelle Obama ain’t suck that nigga dick a couple times…

    ^
    LOL President Obama probably get sloppy top on the regular… stop playin…

    thats why hes so cool and calm and whatnot with these kizzas…

  77. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Yo speez my bad on the delay of that dilla zip.
    Aaron is bullshittin

    I got you tho

  78. Hopp Says:

    ” Other people turned into Ross V Jeezy…. ”

    Ross is Jeezy’s Jay-Z.

    U already.

  79. Smooth Says:

    Whip my hair>>>>

  80. Hopp Says:

    ” Shots @ tron,mcb,rex,nowb,etc mothers and sisters and girls and grandmothers and aunts and cousins. ”

    Jus’ caught this …

    LOL @ Jerz runnin’ down the whole list …

  81. Cypher Says:

    Whip my hair>>>>

    ^
    I tried to tell niggas….

  82. SPITGAME Says:

    @Tron

    Its all good bro… Take your time…

  83. Hopp Says:

    ” As it stands
    Wayne> ”

    Yo, I swear Wayne did assassinate that shit. It’s the verse verse post-jail I really do praise.

    Ross for some reason is snoring on that track.

  84. Harlem World Says:

    # Cypher Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    well i always happened to be their first… so i’m the only home training they really ever had… lol

    ^
    smh if you believe this

    ^^
    lol x smh

  85. Cypher Says:

    Wayne>Jeezy>Ross>Ace Hood

    ^
    Ace Hood ruined the song imo…

  86. Jersey*made*me Says:

    lol whadduo tron

  87. SPITGAME Says:

    Ross is Jeezy’s Jay-Z.
    ^^^
    Nah… Ross will never be as good

  88. Alpha Says:

    Bone Thugs n Harmony – Est 1999>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  89. A-LO Says:

    well i always happened to be their first… so i’m the only home training they really ever had… lol

    ^
    smh if you believe this

    ^^
    lol x smh

    ^^^

    lol i’m in a small ass town… a nigga do thorough background checks with these women…

  90. Captain Planet Says:

    But if you scroll up in this post youll see that it was a discussion about Jeezy and wether or not hell be able to produce something good… Other people turned into Ross V Jeezy….

    ^^^

    I still think they are related. No one raps in a vacuum. You don’t think this professed Jeezy run back to the top wouldn’t be easier if Rick Ross didn’t exist? You really think that?

  91. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Bar for bar Ross will eat him alive but that boy make music so he’s good

    ^^

    I’ve seen people get slapped for less,smh @ this.

  92. Hopp Says:

    ” Ace Hood ruined the song imo… ”

    Lex Luger is the surprising piece for me.

    It’s not B.M.F. [Pt. 18].

  93. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Mex whaddup playboy

  94. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Alpha
    0 mins ago
    Bone Thugs n Harmony – Est 1999>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ^
    ironically – I always hated bone thugs. That first EP was aight, but after that, I was on my wu tang shit.. I couldn’t fuck with them like that

  95. Jersey*made*me Says:

    just cause a female suck a dick don’t mean she ain’t got no home training..

    ^^^

    Sucking dick ain’t the issue though,that’s not even that freaky,if that’s what yall consider freaky yall lost.

    It’s when a broad will do freaky shit with ANY dude that shows she grew up with no daddy or her momma is popular at the bar around the corner.

  96. Hopp Says:

    ” Ross will never be as good ”

    Maybe …

    But I’m talkin’ c-section.

    U mention Nas, someone will mention Jay 5 comments later. Jay-Z, Nas.

    Jeezy, Ross.

  97. Cypher Says:

    Wayne > Jeezy makes more sense

    Does TI count anymore… Andre is disqualified for lack of participation

  98. SPITGAME Says:

    Cypher Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    Wayne>Jeezy>Ross>Ace Hood

    ^
    Ace Hood ruined the song imo…
    ^^^
    An its fucked up cuz its his song an shit…

    @Hopp

    Romans Revenge Remix
    Look At Me Now
    Someone To Love Me Mary J Blige Remix
    6’7″
    Welcome To My Hood
    Hustle Hard Remix
    Soo Woo
    ^^^
    Wayne kilt all these joints since he been home

  99. Harlem World Says:

    ron artest >>

  100. SPITGAME Says:

    But I’m talkin’ c-section.
    ^^^
    Overstood

  101. Hopp Says:

    ” Does TI count anymore… ”

    More people will tell u no than yes.

    He probably will, tho, soon as he come home.

    U kno’, before he goes in again.

  102. Captain Planet Says:

    Bar for bar Ross will eat him alive but that boy make music so he’s good

    ^^

    I’ve seen people get slapped for less,smh @ this.

    ^^^

    You are honestly ready to tell me Kanye West has better lyrical ability than Rick Ross.

    *face palm*

    Niggas confused in 2011.

  103. Cypher Says:

    Btw Bun B >>

    Niggas slept on ” no mixtape ”

    I blame the source for that 5 mic fuckery.. Gave bun all kinds of backlash

  104. Smooth Says:

    Jeezys buzz in 2011 = Papooses buzz in 2011

  105. Jersey*made*me Says:

    BSG

    whaddup

  106. Hopp Says:

    ” Wayne kilt all these joints since he been home ”

    lol O, I kno’ the public opinion …

    Hustle Hard is the only one that impressed me so far, tho.

  107. Hopp Says:

    ” I blame the source for that 5 mic fuckery.. ”

    Didn’t the mixtape come first ?

    Or, better yet, the non-mixtape.

  108. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Rick Ross ain’t got no fuckin lyrics,wtf are you talkin about?

  109. A-LO Says:

    Btw Bun B >>

    Niggas slept on ” no mixtape ”

    I blame the source for that 5 mic fuckery.. Gave bun all kinds of backlash

    ^^^

    true story… i feel like Trill O.G. was the worst of his solo efforts imo…

  110. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Kanye is a better overall rapper than ricky.

    Rawse is a better Coke rapper

  111. SPITGAME Says:

    You don’t think this professed Jeezy run back to the top wouldn’t be easier if Rick Ross didn’t exist? You really think that?
    ^^^
    If Im understanding this question, I dont think Rick Ross has anything to do with the Jeezy’s run back at the top, if thats even what it is…. Jeezys trying to make another solid body of work, another good album to come behind The Recession, to come behind TOD2 which was basically an album… Jeezy and Ross’ personal beef doesnt have any bearing on Jeezy making a comeback, it all has to do with Jeezy improving on his formula… And we have yet to see, but in these new CTE songs and freestyles Im hearing glimpses of what Ive come to enjoy about Jeezys music… So well see

  112. Jersey*made*me Says:

    LOL @ a Rick Ross quotable

  113. Alpha Says:

    Jeezys buzz in 2011 = Papooses buzz in 2011

    ^^

    Non sense. Jeezy will be back on radio with a video. Papoose on the other hand…

  114. Captain Planet Says:

    Rick Ross ain’t got no fuckin lyrics,wtf are you talkin about?

    ^^^

    Rick Ross murdered Devil in a New Dress. And they didn’t want him on that ” Monster ” beat. Yeezy makes exceptional music but he ain’t murking niggas lyrically.

  115. A-LO Says:

    Rick Ross ain’t got no fuckin lyrics,wtf are you talkin about?

    ^^^

    i will admit he has some decent wordplay when he tries… i.e. Live Fast Die Young

  116. Cypher Says:

    ” I blame the source for that 5 mic fuckery.. ”

    Didn’t the mixtape come first ?

    Or, better yet, the non-mixtape.

    ^
    yeah did but after that 5 mic shit niggas wasn’t going to give any of buns music a serious listen.

    Niggas felt they had an axe to grind

  117. SPITGAME Says:

    Jerz what it do like a thing-a-ma-bob (nhjic)

  118. Hopp Says:

    Walk past a bitch like breeze in this muthafucka.

  119. SPITGAME Says:

    Bun B been >>>>>

    Not only was No Mixtape crazy but the execution was even better yo…

  120. &What?! Says:

    Banks spitting gansta shit > Banks songs aimed at females

  121. Hopp Says:

    LOL @ a Rick Ross quotable

    ^ lol.

  122. SPITGAME Says:

    Kanye West lyrics >>>> Rick Ross lyrics…
    This is debatable? Really?

  123. Smooth Says:

    Jeezy is gonna resort to an alex da kid beat nd willow smith feature

  124. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Rick Ross murdered Devil in a New Dress. And they didn’t want him on that ” Monster ” beat. Yeezy makes exceptional music but he ain’t murking niggas lyrically.
    ^
    so yeezy didn’t murk the great hova on “run this town” ? Sho ya right..

    Kanye is great when he’s on his “blame game” type shit..I like Rickys music alot, but he’s a one trick pony. Sorta like jerseys mom. She can fit a bowling pin in her ass, but other than that, the broad is useless

  125. Hopp Says:

    People need to chill callin’ whatever happened between Jeezy and Ross a beef …

    Same wit’ the Cam’Ron x Kanye shit …

    Stopit. Nothin’ happened.

  126. Cypher Says:

    Banks spitting gansta shit > Banks songs aimed at females

    ^
    Lol… Pretty much. Side note that’s niggas rhymes be getting lost on the record cause he stay with the sore throat flow.

  127. SPITGAME Says:

    so yeezy didn’t murk the great hova on “run this town” ?
    ^^^
    All stannism aside, that was a very overrated verse…

    Next time im in church please no photos was the best line…

  128. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Kanye West lyrics >>>> Rick Ross lyrics…
    This is debatable? Really?

    ^^

    I thought it was just me. Thank goodness we ALL ain’t bat shit.

  129. Rajon Trondo Says:

    ^
    yeah did but after that 5 mic shit niggas wasn’t going to give any of buns music a serious listen.
    ^
    it’s true. Alot of cats won’t fuck with him based on geographic prejudice alone, and then you add that 5 mic fuckery into the equation? Nobody gave it a chance

  130. Captain Planet Says:

    Rick Ross murdered Devil in a New Dress. And they didn’t want him on that ” Monster ” beat. Yeezy makes exceptional music but he ain’t murking niggas lyrically.
    ^
    so yeezy didn’t murk the great hova on “run this town” ? Sho ya right..

    Kanye is great when he’s on his “blame game” type shit..I like Rickys music alot, but he’s a one trick pony. Sorta like jerseys mom. She can fit a bowling pin in her ass, but other than that, the broad is useless

    ^^^

    You right on that one. He did murk ” Run this Town ” but it was more from enthusiasm rather than lyrics. My position still stands.

  131. Hopp Says:

    Remember Snoop Dogg – I Wanna Rock ?

    That shit was every-fuckin’-where …

  132. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Next time im in church please no photos was the best line…
    ^
    no.

    What you think I rap for to push a fucking rav 4?

  133. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @tron’s mother

    If Yo Coochie Stinks In Church, You Shall Not Be Allowed In Heaven. Book Of Summers Eve 7:13-14 :)

  134. Captain Planet Says:

    so yeezy didn’t murk the great hova on “run this town” ?
    ^^^
    All stannism aside, that was a very overrated verse…

    Next time im in church please no photos was the best line…

    ^^^

    Thank you.

    That verse was enthusiasm, not lyrics.

  135. Cypher Says:

    Kanye West lyrics >>>> Rick Ross lyrics…
    This is debatable? Really?

    ^
    if Ross was spitting at his current level over a longer period of time yeah.

    Both Ross and Ye say some corny shit…. But Kanye makes better songs

  136. Hopp Says:

    ” UGK 4 Life … Rap-A-Lot 4 Life … BITCH !


    … I thought the beat was coming back.

    U still a bitch, tho. ” © Bun B

  137. Captain Planet Says:

    What you think I rap for to push a fucking rav 4?

    ^^^

    *Quizzical look*

    See, without the enthusiasm this is just a bland statement.

  138. Cypher Says:

    You right on that one. He did murk ” Run this Town ” but it was more from enthusiasm rather than lyrics. My position still stands.

    ^
    ye’s flow on that beat >>>

  139. SPITGAME Says:

    What you think I rap for to push a fucking rav 4?
    ^^^
    Ive heard this type a shit before… But that next time im in church please no photos was a pretty powerful bar

  140. Harlem World Says:

    shawty redd circus beats >>> zaytoven & lex luger

  141. Cypher Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

  142. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Don’t act like rawse is nas tho..

    His verses are usually memorable for flow and mic presence.

    And again – he has zero versatility.

    Kanye the rapper > rawse the rapper

  143. Captain Planet Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

    ^^^

    Nothing wrong with that tho. This is rap not literature.

  144. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Nothing wrong with that tho. This is rap not literature.
    ^
    but your argument is about lyricism, is it not?

  145. Captain Planet Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

    ^^^

    Nothing wrong with that tho. This is rap not literature.

    ^^^

    I’ll even go further than that. Delivery is PART of being an artist. You should have a great delivery to enhance your lyrics. Niggas like Papoose think niggas just going to listen to punchline and metaphor one after another. Nah this the music biz.

  146. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

    ^^

    no-sign,Kanye is clever with words and he drop some gems. Even some good humor.

    Ross is coke,shades,and Rose EVERY fucking verse. I’m just trying to understand how this debate even got dignified.

  147. A-LO Says:

    Why does everyone think No Mercy sucks so much? besides maybe Amazing & that horrible Lay Me Down song… i don’t see it… hell imo none of the 1st 9 songs were skippable… shit… How Life Changed >>>

  148. Hopp Says:

    twitter.com/wizardcud/status/31784876327829504

    ^ How does this kid have fans …

    At all …

  149. Cypher Says:

    Something something coke….long pause… Something hoes somthing… Labored breath…something Rose.

    #howtoraplikeross

  150. Captain Planet Says:

    Nothing wrong with that tho. This is rap not literature.
    ^
    but your argument is about lyricism, is it not?

    ^^^

    Yes it is. I’m not agreeing with him that Ross lyrics are average. I’m saying that saying part of his appeal is his delivery is not a negative in my book. In fact it’s a plus, it’s the difference between being just a rapper and being an artist.

  151. Danny Ocean Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

    ^^
    Precisely.

    Even more so in Ross’ case. But that’s a very relevant skill whether niggas wanna believe so or not.

  152. SPITGAME Says:

    if Ross was spitting at his current level over a longer period of time yeah.

    Both Ross and Ye say some corny shit…. But Kanye makes better songs
    ^^^
    Ross still has some growing to do… I know niggas like to think hes versatile, cuz he comes up with different clever little ways to talk about selling large quantities of cocaine, but Ye has a broader subject matter, and great cleverness and wit about him.

    But yeah him and ross say some corny shit….

  153. Captain Planet Says:

    Something something coke….long pause… Something hoes somthing… Labored breath…something Rose.

    #howtoraplikeross

    ^^^

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.

    I’ll wait

  154. Captain Planet Says:

    no-sign,Kanye is clever with words and he drop some gems. Even some good humor.

    Ross is coke,shades,and Rose EVERY fucking verse. I’m just trying to understand how this debate even got dignified.

    ^^^

    Don’t hurt yourself.

  155. Cypher Says:

    Both Ye and Ross rely heavily on delivery to make average bars seem better then they are.

    ^^

    no-sign,Kanye is clever with words and he drop some gems. Even some good humor.

    Ross is coke,shades,and Rose EVERY fucking verse. I’m just trying to understand how this debate even got dignified.

    ^
    I’m not saying Ross > Ye … I’m simply stating a fact, them niggas lean heavily on delivery. Lyricism isn’t something either one of them should be mentioned in.

    Mean let’s say Ye is a better rapper then Ross….is Ross some kind of standard?

  156. Captain Planet Says:

    ^^^

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.

    I’ll wait

    ^^^

    Plenty of classics based on coke, bitches, and money. OB4CL, Blueprint, Reasonable Doubt the list goes on c’mon. Let’s keep it 100.

  157. I got that Courtney Love for ya' Says:

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.

    I’ll wait
    ———–
    B.O.B

    Carry on…

  158. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Something something coke….long pause… Something hoes somthing… Labored breath…something Rose.

    #howtoraplikeross

    ^^

    THIS

    Actually Remy Ma>>>>>>>>>Rick Ross,by a mile

  159. A-LO Says:

    “my nigga Pac, Biggie, 50, Buck and Dr. Dre, …. Dr. Dre… Dr. Dre… Dr. Dre”

    #thegamegems

  160. Captain Planet Says:

    Actually Remy Ma>>>>>>>>>Rick Ross,by a mile

    ^^^

    I’ll keep this in mind for all your comments going on.

  161. Cypher Says:

    twitter.com/wizardcud/status/31784876327829504

    ^ How does this kid have fans …

    At all …

    ^
    chuckle… Chapelle tho>>>>

    Do he have a twitter?… He needs to make a movie, show,or some standup

  162. Captain Planet Says:

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.

    I’ll wait
    ———–
    B.O.B

    Carry on…

    ^^^

    Ha!!!!

    B.O.B. are niggas feeling him in this comment section? Don’t think he’s that relevant. He’s more pop than rap. This was my same comment concerning Nicki Minaj

  163. Secondbest21 Says:

    Charles Hamilton is going to be on 20 most shocking losers’ in love. Nice…

  164. Harlem World Says:

    a chick is on form today

    surely this is an imposter

  165. SPITGAME Says:

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.
    ^^^
    Perfect example of this? Cuuren$y…. He talks about smoking weed, but not as much as constructing clever bars and punchlines without talking about guns or drugs… Thats why I fux wit him… You can talk about him having a sleep inducing voice, but actually listen to them bars and he got alot of impressive shit…

  166. Jersey*made*me Says:

    I bet Capt Planet never got a speeding ticket,the way he blows cops and all…

  167. Cypher Says:

    Nicki got bars…. Sentencing

  168. Hopp Says:

    ” Do he have a twitter? ”

    Chapelle ? Yeah … I’m pretty sure he was Twitter beefin’ [smh] wit’ Katt Williams earlier on today …

  169. Harlem World Says:

    @ hopp

    Cudi has maaaad fans – i seen this shit for myself

    die hard fans even

  170. koa29 Says:

    Wiz has a following far larger than guys like Cudi, RAWSE, B.o.B, etc. He’s got the exact same fanbase Wayne did in 07-now,

    ^^

    yeah…no way.

    BoB & Cudi both have bigger followings than Wiz… Kizzas love those niggas.

  171. Hopp Says:

    ” a chick is on form today ”

    Word …

    Sumn’ happened.

  172. Jersey*made*me Says:

    That Heat/OKC game was ill.

  173. Captain Planet Says:

    Niggas is reaching when they talk about subject matter. Tell me one rapper who is not Kanye, Nicki and Drake singing who doesn’t talk about coke, money and bitches and is making money and relevant.
    ^^^
    Perfect example of this? Cuuren$y…. He talks about smoking weed, but not as much as constructing clever bars and punchlines without talking about guns or drugs… Thats why I fux wit him… You can talk about him having a sleep inducing voice, but actually listen to them bars and he got alot of impressive shit…

    ^^^

    He’s doing his own shit in his own lane. Not as relevant or successful as he could be but he did talk about hustlin and bitches in his past. His only CM single? ” Where the Cash At ” He’s doing something different by not talking about what everybody talking about but people act like Ross is an anomaly talking about coke and hustlin. Take a look around.

  174. Captain Planet Says:

    I bet Capt Planet never got a speeding ticket,the way he blows cops and all…

    ^^^

    Noted.

  175. koa29 Says:

    He’s got the exact same fanbase Wayne did in 07-now,

    ^

    no to that either…

    Wayne “07-08” buzz was some big shit.

    That nigga went from a rapper to the biggest mainstream rapper in the world. On par with Jay & Em…

  176. A-LO Says:

    Nicki got bars…. Sentencing

    ^^^

    that’s why these hoes stay hurt… Pennington

  177. Jackson7 Says:

    SPITGAME says

    Ross still has some growing to do..

    ———————-

    ^ (insert fat joke or AYO here)

  178. Cypher Says:

    Eminem doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Lupe doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Wiz doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Nas doesn’t talk about selling coke..

  179. Hopp Says:

    ” die hard fans even ”

    That’s sad, fam …

    Kudi, tho <

  180. Jackson7 Says:

    good afternoon, A Chick

  181. Jersey*made*me Says:

    The irony of niggas slurping a law enforcement official that raps about crime,LOL.

  182. Cypher Says:

    Will Smith >>> most rappers

  183. Jackson7 Says:

    Eminem doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    ———————–

    cause he’s a user, not a distributor

    and he’s overrated too

  184. A-LO Says:

    good afternoon, A Chick

    ^^^

    lmao…

    i’m not A Chick… lol

  185. Cypher Says:

    Drake and Nicki make facebook rap….

  186. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Eminem doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    ———————–

    cause he’s a user, not a distributor

    and he’s overrated too

    ^^

    Waaaaaaaaay overrated. I was looking through his singles for some exercise music. I wish I would put some of that awkward shit in my MP3 player.

  187. Captain Planet Says:

    Eminem doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Lupe doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Wiz doesn’t talk about selling coke…

    Nas doesn’t talk about selling coke..

    ^^^

    There was a time Nas would have loved talking about selling coke. He gets called out for talking about guns when he doesn’t. Lupe spends all his time talking about how he DOESN’T sell coke or talk about it. Eminem talks about pills and his abusive mother, is this preferable? Wiz took the other potential lane in hip-hop, talking about weed. He even talks about the prices he gets them for, in essence not that different.

    I’m through shooting these down. It would be more reflective to list all the rappers who talk about coke and how many legends occupy that list. C’mon.

  188. SPITGAME Says:

    177.Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    SPITGAME says

    Ross still has some growing to do..

    ———————-

    ^ (insert fat joke or AYO here)

    ^^^
    smh

  189. NovemberEnd Says:

    Nas doesn’t talk about selling coke..
    ^^^^
    “Bricks come with Bill Clinton name on it taped up” – Last Real Nigga Alive Pt 2

  190. Captain Planet Says:

    Will Smith >>> most rappers

    ^^^

    This is sarcastic right? Or referring to money, success?

  191. I got that Courtney Love for ya' Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    good afternoon, A Chick

    *hugs* What’s up!

  192. Hopp Says:

    ” Willow Smith >>> most rappers ”

    Is she ?

  193. Jackson7 Says:

    A-LO Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    good afternoon, A Chick

    ^^^

    lmao…

    i’m not A Chick… lol

    ————————-

    and i wasnt talkin to you neither..

    wtf?

    niggas is weirdos

  194. Cypher Says:

    There was a time Nas would have loved talking about selling coke. He gets called out for talking about guns when he doesn’t. Lupe spends all his time talking about how he DOESN’T sell coke or talk about it. Eminem talks about pills and his abusive mother, is this preferable? Wiz took the other potential lane in hip-hop, talking about weed. He even talks about the prices he gets them for, in essence not that different.

    ^
    you asked me to list artist that don’t talk about selling coke.. And I did, what’s the problem.

    I never said none of these niggas was role models. However you were trying to make it seem like in order to be successful you need to rap about coke.

  195. Captain Planet Says:

    Will Smith >>> most rappers

    ^^^

    This is sarcastic right? Or referring to money, success?

    ^^^

    Plus he doesn’t write his shit. So it’s like saying P. Diddy is a better rapper than somebody.

  196. A-LO Says:

    A-LO Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    good afternoon, A Chick

    ^^^

    lmao…

    i’m not A Chick… lol

    ————————-

    and i wasnt talkin to you neither..

    wtf?

    niggas is weirdos

    ^^^

    lmao nah somebody called me that shit in one of the other discussions… so i was just sayin nigga

  197. Captain Planet Says:

    you asked me to list artist that don’t talk about selling coke.. And I did, what’s the problem.

    I never said none of these niggas was role models. However you were trying to make it seem like in order to be successful you need to rap about coke.

    ^^^

    No you misunderstood me. My intention was to show that talking about coke is in the mainstream of hip-hop. It doesn’t make sense to belittle Rick Ross for talking about coke when most rappers do and even most legends.

  198. Cypher Says:

    Will Smith >>> most rappers

    ^^^

    This is sarcastic right? Or referring to money, success?

    ^
    both… Will Smith longevity and success >>> most rappers

    Jay wish he could be will smith.

    Sn I’m stating a fact here no need to debate

  199. Jersey*made*me Says:

    i’m not A Chick… lol

    ————————-

    and i wasnt talkin to you neither..

    ^^

    roffle

  200. koa29 Says:

    LASERS is gunna be >>>>

    Waitin on this “Words I Never Said” single to drop. Lupe one of the best conscience rappers in the game, undisputed.

  201. Captain Planet Says:

    Will Smith >>> most rappers

    ^^^

    This is sarcastic right? Or referring to money, success?

    ^
    both… Will Smith longevity and success >>> most rappers

    Jay wish he could be will smith.

    Sn I’m stating a fact here no need to debate

    ^^^

    I was making sure you weren’t talking lyrics or music.

    Jay and Will doing movie ventures together. Hov is in a better position imo. Jay has more money too $300M > $188M. Plus Hov still has the street credibility and is a pop icon.

  202. Cypher Says:

    No you misunderstood me. My intention was to show that talking about coke is in the mainstream of hip-hop. It doesn’t make sense to belittle Rick Ross for talking about coke when most rappers do and even most legends.

    ^
    niggas is knockin Ricky because he only talks about maybe 3 things…. And the fact that he used to be a CO… Mostly cause he used to be a CO. Oh and cause he’s fat.. But it’s cool fat people don’t have feelings.

  203. Jackson7 Says:

    Jay wish he could be will smith.

    Sn I’m stating a fact here

    ———————–

    how so?

    Will Smith is a homo..

    not that Jay isnt, but.. how so?

  204. SPITGAME Says:

    I’m through shooting these down.
    ^^
    *chuckles*

    Just to clarify, Lupe rapping about not selling drugs fits the criteria of relevant rappers who dont talk about selling drugs… And that part of his subject matter takes up maybe 2% of his subject matter…

    @Hopp
    I never said Cudi is up there wit the nicest lyrically… But ima need you to stop tryna talk bad about my guy lol… Cudi makes good songs, with good melodies and catchy hooks with good beats and is more personable than any other rapper… And he def doesnt try to fit in any other artists mold… And his raps be fresh too, especially when their actually all off the top of the dome…

    Listen to Scott Mescudi V The World and tell me that shit aint great piece of music…

  205. koa29 Says:

    @Jersey

    “Cinderella Man”, “No Love”, “Won’t Back Down” & “Not Afraid” are all pretty good gym playlist songs…

    but then again, i’m an Em fan…niggas got they own preferences.

  206. Captain Planet Says:

    Those two both have questionable religious practices tho.

    Illuminati & Scientolgy.

    Rich niggas stay confused.

  207. koa29 Says:

    I never said Cudi is up there wit the nicest lyrically… But ima need you to stop tryna talk bad about my guy lol… Cudi makes good songs, with good melodies and catchy hooks with good beats and is more personable than any other rapper… And he def doesnt try to fit in any other artists mold… And his raps be fresh too, especially when their actually all off the top of the dome…

    ^^

    Co-sign ALL of this…

    CuDi >> , even if the nigga jockin Kanye’s steez in his twitter pic… twitter.com/account/profile_image/wizardcud?hreflang=en

  208. Hopp Says:

    ” not that Jay isnt, but.. how so? ”

    lol.

  209. Captain Planet Says:

    I’m through shooting these down.
    ^^
    *chuckles*

    Just to clarify, Lupe rapping about not selling drugs fits the criteria of relevant rappers who dont talk about selling drugs… And that part of his subject matter takes up maybe 2% of his subject matter…

    ^^^

    Noted.

  210. Hoskins Says:

    Rossir Bin Olu Dara

  211. Captain Planet Says:

    how so?

    Will Smith is a homo..

    not that Jay isnt, but.. how so?

    ^^^

    Ha!!!

    Scientologists really act like they can cure homosexuality. I knew something was up when Will snagged muscular, manly ass Jada. That nigga could have any chick in the world and he chose her?!?! Something’s up, word to John Travolta rumors.

  212. Ashin' Kusher Says:

    # koa29 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Wiz has a following far larger than guys like Cudi, RAWSE, B.o.B, etc. He’s got the exact same fanbase Wayne did in 07-now,

    ^^

    yeah…no way.

    BoB & Cudi both have bigger followings than Wiz… Kizzas love those niggas.

    ^

    BoB DOES NOT have a bigger following than Wiz Khalifa…BoB doesnt even have a real fanbase…he is strictly a pop ring tone seller based off the hooks of his songs

    wiz khalifa’s video with too short has 700,000 views on youtube and it came out on thursday do not compare khalifa to BoB

    TaylorGang is a movement and he built his following from the ground up

  213. Cypher Says:

    Jay and Will doing movie ventures together. Hov is in a better position imo. Jay has more money too $300M > $188M. Plus Hov still has the street credibility and is a pop icon.

    ^
    not to go to far off track… But will pull in at least 300 mil on every movie he makes that not even counting residuals. And fuck street cred will smith got that housewife middle America blvd cred.

    And as far as Pop Icon Will Smith >>>>> Jay

  214. Hopp Says:

    ” I never said Cudi is up there wit the nicest lyrically… ”

    lol U Couldn’t if u wanted to.

    ” he def doesnt try to fit in any other artists mold… ”

    lol He couldn’t if he wanted to.

    ” his raps be fresh too ”

    I won’t entertain this discussion …

    There’s no way in hell I’m gonna co-sign this and I ain’t gonna convince u otherwise either. It is what it is.

    I will actually give that album u mentioned a listen, tho.

  215. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Fuck I look like benching 350 with Cinderrella Man in my ears??

    C’mon son.

  216. Jackson7 Says:

    *most overrated MCs ever*

    1. T.I.
    2. Outkast
    3. Deputy Warden William Roberts
    4. Eminem
    5. Tupac
    6. Too Short
    7. Nelly
    8. Bun B
    9. Cormega
    10. Scarface

  217. Ashin' Kusher Says:

    # koa29 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Wiz has a following far larger than guys like Cudi, RAWSE, B.o.B, etc. He’s got the exact same fanbase Wayne did in 07-now,

    ^^

    yeah…no way.

    BoB & Cudi both have bigger followings than Wiz… Kizzas love those niggas.

    ^

    Wiz Khalifa also has the white fan base on lock

  218. Black Says:

    *daps all*

    Summertime>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hov’s career

    lol

  219. I got that Courtney Love for ya' Says:

    Jay and Will doing movie ventures together. Hov is in a better position imo. Jay has more money too $300M > $188M. Plus Hov still has the street credibility and is a pop icon.
    ————
    Prolly not.

    Overbrook Entertainment is an American entertainment company based in Beverly Hills, California, USA. The production company was started by Will Smith between 1997 and 1999. Overbrook Entertainment has generated more than $2.5 billion in revenue by producing some of Smith’s films like Ali, Hitch, Pursuit of Happyness, I Am Legend and The Karate Kid.

  220. sealsaa Says:

    Captain Planet Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    how so?

    Will Smith is a homo..

    not that Jay isnt, but.. how so?

    ^^^

    Ha!!!

    Scientologists really act like they can cure homosexuality. I knew something was up when Will snagged muscular, manly ass Jada. That nigga could have any chick in the world and he chose her?!?! Something’s up, word to John Travolta rumors.
    ===========================

    Didn’t Pac used to chill with Jada? Hmmm….

  221. Ashin' Kusher Says:

    1,052,265 views in 2 days

    wiz khalifa is doing it big

  222. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay and Will doing movie ventures together. Hov is in a better position imo. Jay has more money too $300M > $188M. Plus Hov still has the street credibility and is a pop icon.

    ^
    not to go to far off track… But will pull in at least 300 mil on every movie he makes that not even counting residuals. And fuck street cred will smith got that housewife middle America blvd cred.

    And as far as Pop Icon Will Smith >>>>> Jay

    ^^^

    Are you kidding right now?!?!!?

    $300 Million a movie?!? What world do you live in?!?! Check Will Smith’s net worth right now fam and come back to me with some facts based in reality.

    Jay-Z is a far greater pop icon than Will. Not even debatable. Jay’s name is almost synonymous with rap/hip-hop. Will is synonymous with what? Fresh Prince? He’s just the biggest black actor. Calm down fam.

  223. Hopp Says:

    ” 5. Tupac
    7. Nelly ”

    False …

    Who’s tryna say Nelly’s nice ? lol And if u find anyone that says so … It’s probably a isollated case … Like the “Ludacris is a legend !” dude …

  224. Jackson7 Says:

    And as far as Pop Icon Will Smith >>>>> Jay

    ———————

    no sign

    actors are rarely “pop icons”

    superstar celebrity, maybe.. pop icon, nah…

    theres a difference…

    will smith cant sell out no arena’s by himself… he needs a good cast and a good script..

    jay just needs about 10 just blaze beats and one mic…

  225. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Prolly not.

    Overbrook Entertainment is an American entertainment company based in Beverly Hills, California, USA. The production company was started by Will Smith between 1997 and 1999. Overbrook Entertainment has generated more than $2.5 billion in revenue by producing some of Smith’s films like Ali, Hitch, Pursuit of Happyness, I Am Legend and The Karate Kid.

    ^^

    read it and weep ether

  226. Cypher Says:

    Jay wish he could be will smith.

    Sn I’m stating a fact here

    ———————–

    how so?

    Will Smith is a homo..

    not that Jay isnt, but.. how so?

    ^
    meaning Jay has been making moves to reach the level of mainstream acceptance that Will has. As far as who he hangs with and what talk shows he appears on.

    He trying to distance himself from the negativity that comes from being a drug dealer so that older white people buy his shit.

    Nothing wrong with it tho Jay is a business man

  227. Black Says:

    most overrated MCs ever*

    1. T.I.
    2. Outkast
    3. Deputy Warden William Roberts
    4. Eminem
    5. Tupac
    6. Too Short
    7. Nelly
    8. Bun B
    9. Cormega
    10. Scarface

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Only argument i would have is Nelly simply cuz i’ve never heard anybody give him props.

  228. Jackson7 Says:

    an icon is a singular identity…

    will smith cant do shit alone…

  229. Captain Planet Says:

    You guys amaze me. If Will Smith is making the money you guys talking about he’d be a billionaire many times over. Tom Cruise was a much bigger actor and he ain’t making the dough you guys talking

    Stop It.

  230. I got that Courtney Love for ya' Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    *most overrated MCs ever*

    5. Tupac
    ————————
    How so?

  231. SPITGAME Says:

    10. Scarface
    ^^^
    FOH

  232. Captain Planet Says:

    2. Outkast

    ^^^

    Is this Outkast as a group only or including Andre as an artist?

  233. A-LO Says:

    And as far as Pop Icon Will Smith >>>>> Jay

    ———————

    no sign

    actors are rarely “pop icons”

    superstar celebrity, maybe.. pop icon, nah…

    theres a difference…

    will smith cant sell out no arena’s by himself… he needs a good cast and a good script..

    jay just needs about 10 just blaze beats and one mic…

    ^^^

    Just Blaze >>>>>

    word to how he put it down on Philadelphia Freeway…

  234. Jersey*made*me Says:

    most overrated MCs ever*

    1. T.I.
    2. Outkast
    3. Deputy Warden William Roberts
    4. Eminem
    5. Tupac
    6. Too Short
    7. Nelly
    8. Bun B
    9. Cormega
    10. Scarface

    ^^

    take out Andre,Pac,and Face and we got a deal. Even though face ain’t Top 10 GOAT like niggas imply.

  235. Jackson7 Says:

    i put Nelly in there because he made alotta money, sold alotta records, and went into movies and TV and whatnot…

    i can dig what yall sayin that no one thought he was nice in the first place, but somebody liked that nigga..

    ‘only dudes movin units is Em, PIMP JUICE and us…”

    Nelly was overrated yo..

    he aint deserve none of what he got… from an artistic standpoint…

  236. Ashin' Kusher Says:

    still SMH at somebody saying B.o.B has a bigger following than Wiz Khalifa

  237. koa29 Says:

    Fuck I look like benching 350 with Cinderrella Man in my ears??

    ^^

    It ain’t even bad, b.

    I be benchin 275 with it in my ears. lol. it’s got a similar beat to “Til I Collapse”… i fux with it.

  238. Cypher Says:

    A pop icon is a celebrity, character, or object whose fame in pop culture constitutes a defining characteristic of a given society or era. Although there is no single definitive test for establishing “pop icon” status, such status is usually associated with elements such as longevity, ubiquity, and distinction

    You telling me that don’t describe Will Smith?

    Oh and now a days Jay needs more then beats and a mic… He needs a couple R&B hooks… A Kanye beat and guest verses from the entire good music roster pretty much.

  239. NovemberEnd Says:

    9. Cormega
    ^^^
    he overrated?

    more like underrated

    AZ is overrated

  240. Jersey*made*me Says:

    still SMH at somebody saying B.o.B has a bigger following than Wiz Khalifa

    ^^

    He’s more talented,that’s for sure.

  241. Black Says:

    Nelly was overrated yo..

    he aint deserve none of what he got… from an artistic standpoint…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I will say this, when Country Grammer dropped i thought rap couldnt get any worse. Alotta the new niggas make nelly look like nas tho.

  242. Captain Planet Says:

    Will Smith made $80 million in 2008, where’s the $300 Million a movie yall talking about?

  243. sealsaa Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    *most overrated MCs ever*

    5. Tupac

    =================

    Thank you.

  244. Cypher Says:

    an icon is a singular identity…

    will smith cant do shit alone…

    ^
    and neither can Jay…

  245. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @koa29

    Aight,imma youtube it,lol

  246. Jackson7 Says:

    Overbrook Entertainment has generated more than $2.5 billion

    —————————

    thats just revenue generated ..meaning income…

    that dont take into account how much they spending to make them multimillion dollar movies… paying actors and paying for special effects and logistics and whatnot..

    will is hella rich no doubt… but he spending money to make them movies…

  247. Hopp Says:

    ” He’s more talented,that’s for sure. ”

    Accurate.

  248. SPITGAME Says:

    @Hopp

    These Worries- youtube.com/watch?v=ty2q_QhLwxI

    Scott Mescudi V The World- youtube.com/watch?v=62cb9Kh6R9M

    Ashin Kusher- youtube.com/watch?v=crZpOX5f-6g

    Listen (c) You….

  249. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @ Black

    You in Philly right?

  250. koa29 Says:

    still SMH at somebody saying B.o.B has a bigger following than Wiz Khalifa

    ^

    He does tho.

    Get your “taylor gang” head out of Wiz’s ass (nh) and you might realize this. No shots at Wiz or the Taylor Gang movement, i’m a fan. just sayin. you makin it out like what i said was blasphemous.

  251. Black Says:

    @ Black

    You in Philly right?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Early

  252. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    leave it to Land to make a most overrated list and majority of them are bammas

    #TeamBammaBias

  253. RIGZ Says:

    will smith cant sell out no arena’s by himself… he needs a good cast and a good script..

    jay just needs about 10 just blaze beats and one mic…

    ^^^

    Thats like saying Jay needs a studio, good engineer, record label & video directors lol

  254. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @ Black

    You in Philly right?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Early

    ^^
    What’s the name of that Jamaican food spot right there on like 46th and Woodland?

  255. koa29 Says:

    Yo Spitgame, All those tracks >>>>

    To me, Cudi’s music doesn’t get old. I kno majority of niggas on here didn’t fux with MOTM 1 , but I can still listen to majority of it and have an enjoyable listen… The 2nd one is better than the 1st too, imo.

    GHOST! >>
    The End >>
    Mojo So Dope >>

  256. Jackson7 Says:

    I got that Courtney Love for ya’ Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    *most overrated MCs ever*

    5. Tupac
    ————————
    How so?

    —————-

    he was WAY too influential…

    and i STILL dont know how or why…

    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,.. he was a great actor though (underrated actor)..

    thats what drew alotta niggas and women in… his ability to portray something he clearly wasnt…

    but as an MC?.. overrated…

  257. RIGZ Says:

    If people will seriously sit here & debate Jay’s status in pop cuture against Will Smith’s…Then…then I just dunno anymore lol

    They still play Fresh Prince on TV everyday.

  258. RIGZ Says:

    Bredahs are crazy lol

  259. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay-Z had fools wearing beanies with caps, jerseys, Yankee hats, drinking Cristal, not drinking Cristal.

    WIll can only motivate people to see his movie. He’s not a pop icon.

  260. Captain Planet Says:

    If people will seriously sit here & debate Jay’s status in pop cuture against Will Smith’s…Then…then I just dunno anymore lol

    They still play Fresh Prince on TV everyday.

    ^^^

    And …

  261. Hopp Says:

    OIC, Don V..

    I thought u recommended me an entire album, these are separate cuts. Imma save those links and check later for sure, I’m listening to some albums I haven’t heard yet and the list is quite long …

  262. Harlem World Says:

    big willie style = goat pop rap album

  263. Captain Planet Says:

    If people will seriously sit here & debate Jay’s status in pop cuture against Will Smith’s…Then…then I just dunno anymore lol

    They still play Fresh Prince on TV everyday.

    ^^^

    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

  264. Rajon Trondo Says:

    still SMH at somebody saying B.o.B has a bigger following than Wiz Khalifa
    ^
    cut it out

    You tube views don’t =success. Word to “David at the dentist” and “dramatic hampster”

    BOB had huge singles and his album went plat I think.

    Ftr I hate both of them, but let’s see if wiz can do it on an album before we get too crazy

  265. Cypher Says:

    I quit… Niggas is lost.

  266. Jersey*made*me Says:

    BSG

    Send me the rest of them songs b. You should let niggas hear that Friends of Distinction joint you did too.

  267. Black Brokaw Says:

    Anybody got links to PT 1 & 2?

  268. Jackson7 Says:

    Jay’s doesnt need no one else…

    Jay can rap acapella with no beat ..

    can Will Smith act acapella?

    has will smith set any trends?

    has will smith married Beyonce?

    does will smith have an entire species of animal named after him?

    does will smith have a manslave like memphis bleek?

    does will smith have internet slaves like Mr. Iceberg Slim, singing his praises?

    JayZ > Will Smith, as an ICON

  269. I got that Courtney Love for ya' Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    I got that Courtney Love for ya’ Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    *most overrated MCs ever*

    5. Tupac
    ————————
    How so?

    —————-

    he was WAY too influential…

    and i STILL dont know how or why…

    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,..
    ————-
    WUT?

    So Dear Mama, Keep you Head Up and Brenda’s Got a Baby, I ain’t mad at cha never happened?

    If anything, Pac was thee MOST versatile rapper i have ever heard!!

    *checks blood pressure*

  270. Hopp Says:

    ” You tube views don’t =success. ”

    It does, tho …

    But I digress …

  271. Black Says:

    ^^
    What’s the name of that Jamaican food spot right there on like 46th and Woodland?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Wish i knew lol.

  272. RIGZ Says:

    And …

    ^^

    And theres alotta people just only recently gravitating to Jay around the world, believe it or not. Will Smith had the pop world on smash since early 90s.

    Will been a icon since the 1st 5 episodes of Fresh Prince.
    It is what it is.

  273. sealsaa Says:

    5. Tupac
    ————————
    How so?

    —————-

    he was WAY too influential…

    and i STILL dont know how or why…

    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,.. he was a great actor though (underrated actor)..

    thats what drew alotta niggas and women in… his ability to portray something he clearly wasnt…

    but as an MC?.. overrated…
    ===========================

    Accurate. He was underrated as an actor because he was a victim of type-casting. The work he did wasn’t bad, but he could’ve done better.

    Musically, I don’t see how people can put him in a top 5 with the likes of Big, Nas, Pun, etc. I think he gets a pass on skill because of his subject matter/influence.

  274. Captain Planet Says:

    I quit… Niggas is lost.

    ^^^

    I count forfeits as wins.

    #Jussayin

    Jay-Z > Will Smith

    C’mon!

  275. RIGZ Says:

    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

    ^^

    Nope.

  276. koa29 Says:

    JayZ > Will Smith, as an ICON

    ^

    co-sign.

    but you can’t underestimate the influence the the powerful movies Will Smith has been in…

    I mean, c’mon, this nigga kilt aliens and shit in Independence Day… How iconic was that movie?

    Did Jay-Z kilt any aliens and save the world? nope.

  277. Harlem World Says:

    the jay-z/yankee hat theory irks me!

  278. NovemberEnd Says:

    # Black Brokaw Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Anybody got links to PT 1 & 2?
    ^^^^
    google

  279. Black Says:

    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This… from a technical standpoint Loso>>>Pac.

  280. Jackson7 Says:

    Carlton Banks on Fresh Prince > Fresh Prince on fresh Prince

    FACT

    will smith was corny on that show IMO

  281. Cypher Says:

    They still play Fresh Prince on TV everyday.

    ^^^

    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

    ^
    everyone knows who will smith is… Even racist ass hillbillies.

    Jay not so much, he just now got onto Oprah. Niggas/kizzas was raised on the fresh prince. Men in Black, Bad Boys, Independence day.

    Go outside ask the first person old white person or black person who the fuck jay is watch you catch the blank stare. Now ask them about Will Smith

  282. Captain Planet Says:

    And …

    ^^

    And theres alotta people just only recently gravitating to Jay around the world, believe it or not. Will Smith had the pop world on smash since early 90s.

    Will been a icon since the 1st 5 episodes of Fresh Prince.
    It is what it is.

    ^^^

    So? You act like Jay hasn’t been known since Reasonable Doubt. Jay-Z is one of the biggest names in hip-hop. Hip-Hop is a movement, a way of life, and Jay-Z is one of the biggest faces on it, if not the biggest. Will Smith just makes movies now. It’s not like he’s a unique movie actor like Johnny Depp or Will Ferrell. He just be making movies b. He does his job, Jay-Z stands for something.

  283. Black Says:

    Football season almost over so the NBA feels its safe to play on Sundays.

  284. Black Brokaw Says:

    NovemberEnd Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    # Black Brokaw Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Anybody got links to PT 1 & 2?
    ^^^^
    google

    ^
    ight….you prolly got em too lol

  285. SPITGAME Says:

    BSG

    Send me the rest of them songs b. You should let niggas hear that Friends of Distinction joint you did too.
    ^^^
    Excuse my ignorance bro…. Which joints you talmbout? And whats the Friends Of Distinction jawn I did… Can you type a line for me to refresh my memory for me…

  286. koa29 Says:

    Lupe fiasco ft. john legend “Never Forget You” >>>>>

    youtube.com/watch?v=XxDc389fkZA&feature=related

  287. RIGZ Says:

    So? You act like Jay hasn’t been known since Reasonable Doubt.

    ^^

    He hasnt fam.

  288. Cypher Says:

    Did Jay-Z kilt any aliens and save the world? nope.

    ^
    roffle

  289. Harlem World Says:

    you can estimate the size of an artists fanbase by records sold and tickets sold

    of course, there is no concrete way of proving who’s more popular (no glee)

    but thats the best way

  290. Hopp Says:

    ” will smith was corny on that show IMO ”

    gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1307943_o.gif

    ^ And him wasn’t ?

  291. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

    ^^

    Nope.

    ^^^

    *face palm*

    I thought we were having a serious discussion, my bad.

  292. Jackson7 Says:

    no doubt… will smith is a GREAT actor..

    was in some big money making flicks..

    but he aint no greater pop icon than Camel..

  293. Captain Planet Says:

    So? You act like Jay hasn’t been known since Reasonable Doubt.

    ^^

    He hasnt fam.

    ^^^

    K.

  294. Black Says:

    More people watch movies than listen to Hip Hop. The most popular actor will always be more well known than most popular rapper.

  295. Jersey*made*me Says:

    What’s the name of that Jamaican food spot right there on like 46th and Woodland?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Wish i knew lol.

    ^^
    My homie trying to GPS that joint,it’s all good. I told him the intersection so that should do. If you or anybody in Philly want some banging ass grub,do yourself that favor. They Pepper Steak is a felony.

  296. Cypher Says:

    Jay-Z stands for something.

    ^
    and what is that?

  297. A-LO Says:

    They still play Fresh Prince on TV everyday.

    ^^^

    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

    ^
    everyone knows who will smith is… Even racist ass hillbillies.

    Jay not so much, he just now got onto Oprah. Niggas/kizzas was raised on the fresh prince. Men in Black, Bad Boys, Independence day.

    Go outside ask the first person old white person or black person who the fuck jay is watch you catch the blank stare. Now ask them about Will Smith

    ^^^

    lmao hesitantly cosign… I mentioned Jay-Z to my homie’s 60 year old father… and he didn’t know who the fuck Jay-Z was… but I mention he says “Will Smith? I Robot, Independence Day, Men In Black? great actor…”

  298. SPITGAME Says:

    RIGZ Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    Jay-Z oldies don’t play on the radio no mo?

    ^^

    Nope.
    ^^
    *Daps RIGZ*

    This a lie tho lol….

    LF: Underrated Hov and Swizz and Mary Joint:

    Your Welcome- youtube.com/watch?v=el8Jjzc64JY

  299. NovemberEnd Says:

    Feds taking pictures Brokaw

  300. sealsaa Says:

    Black Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This… from a technical standpoint Loso>>>Pac.
    ==================================

    From a technical standpoint, there’s a long list of niggas>>>>Pac, but again, nigga’s give him a pass on skill because of his subject matter.

  301. Cypher Says:

    Will Smith just makes movies now. It’s not like he’s a unique movie actor like Johnny Depp or Will Ferrell.

    ^
    Will Smith and Johnny Depp is more or less equal. But Will Ferrell nigga really? GTFOH

  302. Jackson7 Says:

    A Chick says

    *checks blood pressure*

    ———————-

    yo… hold up..

    you been seeing Remixznflow offline??

  303. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Excuse my ignorance bro…. Which joints you talmbout? And whats the Friends Of Distinction jawn I did… Can you type a line for me to refresh my memory for me…

    ^^

    SMH @ niggas rapping over samples they can’t I.D.

    youtube.com/watch?v=CAmcCdvZCDg

    I need them other songs in that drop though,that’s the only one I saved.

  304. Jackson7 Says:

    as an actor

    Johnny Depp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will Smith

  305. Captain Planet Says:

    everyone knows who will smith is… Even racist ass hillbillies.

    Jay not so much, he just now got onto Oprah. Niggas/kizzas was raised on the fresh prince. Men in Black, Bad Boys, Independence day.

    Go outside ask the first person old white person or black person who the fuck jay is watch you catch the blank stare. Now ask them about Will Smith

    ^^^

    I don’t think pop icon status is bestowed solely on popularity. Pop Icons stand for something. You say their name and it carries weight.

    Both Will and Jay-Z supported Obama. Do you think white folks were like ” Oh Willy likes him, he must be all right? “. I don’t I think it’s far more likely plenty of kids who love hip-hop gravitated towards Obama and were more apt to vote for him because of a Jay-Z co-sign. And a lot of them voted, word to Obama snagging the youth vote. Not saying it was all due to Jay but being cool with “cool” people certainly helped. Simple popularity doesn’t do that. That’s what a pop icon is capable of.

  306. Jackson7 Says:

    Forrest Whitaker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will Smith

  307. Black Says:

    ^^
    My homie trying to GPS that joint,it’s all good. I told him the intersection so that should do. If you or anybody in Philly want some banging ass grub,do yourself that favor. They Pepper Steak is a felony.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    definitely gon give it a shot. Philly got alot of Jamaican spots. Its this spot called Jamaican D’s(pause the name lol) that has the best jerk chicken ive ever had.

  308. SPITGAME Says:

    Yo RIGZ you underestimatin Jay celebrity lol…. Will Smith is still popular especially cuz Fresh Prince, but mufuckas all over the world are just as familiar wit Jay, too….

    True Story:

    I use to work for a education oriented call center… I had to make some calls to London, because they were getting paid to score certain tests… One of my callers started asking me all types of questions about the states… White people mind you…. They asked me where I was from I said Pennsylvania… Shorty said “Is that where Jay-Z from?” I laughed and said no, Her husband (im guessin) was in the background he was like “No thats where Will Smith is from”…. That convo continued for a while but, Im sayin… Both their celebrities are powerful

  309. Captain Planet Says:

    as an actor

    Johnny Depp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will Smith

    ^^^

    Should not be debated.

  310. Hopp Says:

    ” you been seeing Remixznflow offline?? ”

    LOL …

  311. Rajon Trondo Says:

    A Chick says

    *checks blood pressure*

    ———————-

    yo… hold up..

    you been seeing Remixznflow offline??
    ^
    *deaded*

  312. SPITGAME Says:

    SMH @ niggas rapping over samples they can’t I.D.
    ^^^
    LMAO! I got you now, I thought that song was called Circles lol…. give me a few and Ima upload the zip again…

  313. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    Pac made GREAT songs….this is why he is so influential

    i mean GREAT songs…that connected with the people not just was hot for that year

  314. Jackson7 Says:

    RIGZ

    will smith may be an icon in the UK..

    but over here, he’s just Philip Banks nephew, Will

  315. Captain Planet Says:

    Will Smith just makes movies now. It’s not like he’s a unique movie actor like Johnny Depp or Will Ferrell.

    ^
    Will Smith and Johnny Depp is more or less equal. But Will Ferrell nigga really? GTFOH

    ^^^

    You misunderstood me. I said unique. They are different than most actors. Will is an average actor at best. Johnny Depp does roles no one else can, Will Ferrell has his own brand of funny, you were here when he cashed in. I did not mean Will Ferrell is a better actor than Will Smith.

  316. Black Says:

    LF: Underrated Hov and Swizz and Mary Joint:

    Your Welcome- youtube.com/watch?v=el8Jjzc64JY

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Didnt Hov have the inro to one of Mary’s albums? That verse was always slept on.

  317. Hopp Says:

    ” Forrest Whitaker ”

    Underrated actor.

  318. SPITGAME Says:

    As an actor almost anybody >>>>> Will Smith tho….

    Pursuit of Happyness was the only serious role I could take him serious in…

    >>> I Am Legend

  319. RIGZ Says:

    Captain Planet Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    So? You act like Jay hasn’t been known since Reasonable Doubt.

    ^^

    He hasnt fam.

    ^^^

    I know its hard to believe, but Outside of hiphop, alot of people worldwide could give a fuck about a Jay Z until recently…

    This is why he is only just now appearing on all these shows that are totally outside of the “urban” bubble.

    Jonathan Ross for example. This is why he’s getting his 1st number ones in alotta countries off BP3. He only just entered this space. Over here anyway.

    Snoop was already in that bracket (somehow, I dont even know how he did it) but in terms of worldwide pop celebrity, Jay just got there.

    Dont let

  320. Captain Planet Says:

    ” Forrest Whitaker ”

    Underrated actor.

    ^^^

    He does have an Oscar …

    But he went to some questionable roles afterwards tho …

    Whitaker as Idi Amin >>>

  321. Black Brokaw Says:

    Its easier to be a trend setter if you a rapper. You can constantly rap abot whats hot.

    Drop an album talkin about whats hot. Make a catchy song. Create a following.

    Movie stars cant do that. They gotta memorize scripts, work on sets for months, be in character and come out with a movie about being a drunk super hero. You cant set a trend off that.

  322. Cypher Says:

    I don’t think pop icon status is bestowed solely on popularity. Pop Icons stand for something. You say their name and it carries weight.

    ^
    nigga WTF you think the pop in pop icon stands for?…

  323. Black Says:

    Pursuit of Happyness was the only serious role I could take him serious in…

    >>> I Am Legend

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I agree but u cant sleep on Ali.

  324. Jackson7 Says:

    Pursuit of Happyness was the only serious role I could take him serious in

    ———————-

    word… exactly..

    the rest of them shits was kiddie movies and fantasies

  325. SPITGAME Says:

    Didnt Hov have the inro to one of Mary’s albums? That verse was always slept on.
    ^^^
    Word *youtubes*

  326. Hopp Says:

    I Am Legend is a horrible flick …

    There’s a reason Smith is filming Bad Boys 3 and MIB: III …

    But I, Robot and The Pursuit Of Happyness are very good projects that stand out …

    Hella actors wish they had the Chris Gardner role.

  327. Jackson7 Says:

    and in Six Degrees of Separation, he was basically portraying himself

  328. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    I know its hard to believe, but Outside of hiphop, alot of people worldwide could give a fuck about a Jay Z until recently…
    ============================
    u can’t tell the Hov stand nothing

    their blinded by the illuminating light

  329. RIGZ Says:

    I cant remember the LAST time I heard an old Jay record on the radio out here. Seriously.

    I know you may find it hard, but hiphop dont run the rest of the world like it does in America. Jay just stepped out the “urban” bubble and into the “pop” bubble worldwide.

    Ask BBC Radio One how much Jay Z singles theyve had in day time rotation.

  330. SPITGAME Says:

    And Ali…. I will not front on that

  331. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Jamaican D’s

    ^^

    LMAO,pauseworthy for sure

  332. SPITGAME Says:

    @Black

    youtube.com/watch?v=YyWY_rjo9pE

  333. Captain Planet Says:

    I don’t think pop icon status is bestowed solely on popularity. Pop Icons stand for something. You say their name and it carries weight.

    ^
    nigga WTF you think the pop in pop icon stands for?…

    ^^^

    You don’t get it then. Being the most popular doesn’t make you an icon. Who’s more iconic Johnny Depp or Tom Cruise?

  334. Cypher Says:

    As an actor almost anybody >>>>> Will Smith tho….

    Pursuit of Happyness was the only serious role I could take him serious in…

    >>> I Am Legend

    ^
    of course you gone shit on Will Smith just off the strength of the Will > Jay comment… Smh

  335. Jackson7 Says:

    will shith was HORRIBLE in Ali… he neither looked like, acted like, or captured the essence of Muhammad Ali in any way…

  336. Jersey*made*me Says:

    u can’t tell the Hov stand nothing

    their blinded by the illuminating light

    ^^

    LOL @ Hov stand. Them niggas won’t sit down huh?

  337. Black Says:

    I know you may find it hard, but hiphop dont run the rest of the world like it does in America. Jay just stepped out the “urban” bubble and into the “pop” bubble worldwide.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Bagging Beyonce opened alotta doors for that nigga, i can almost guarantee the Oprah appearances dont occur without the affiliation.

  338. Hopp Says:

    I don’t lik Will’s acting on Ali.

    Idea was good.

    Execution could’ve been better.

  339. RIGZ Says:

    SPITGAME Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Yo RIGZ you underestimatin Jay celebrity lol….

    ^^

    Nah, you’re overestimating it.

    First time I saw Jay in a tabloid paper over here was cos he happened to be in the pic wid Beyonce, when they 1st started dating.

    True story. Papparazzi didnt care about that dude.

  340. Danny Ocean Says:

    Will Smith > Jay-Z

    Summertime>>>>
    Fresh Prince >>>>
    his movie catalog>>>>
    willow smith, whip my hair >>>>
    jada’s movie catalog >>>>
    jaden smith, karate kid >>>>

    Hov’s resume isn’t nearly as illustrious.

  341. Hopp Says:

    ” LOL @ Hov stand. Them niggas won’t sit down huh? ”

    LOL … Not more than stans, but makes some sense …

  342. Black Says:

    Jamaican D’s

    ^^

    LMAO,pauseworthy for sure

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yo i never realized it till i was typing it out lol. It almost got submitted without the disclaimer.

    I wouldve had to get a new IP address after the ether that wouldve ensued.

  343. koa29 Says:

    I Am Legend is a horrible flick …

    no-sign

  344. Jersey*made*me Says:

    *stands*

  345. Black Says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=YyWY_rjo9pE

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Whoa!

  346. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z made the Yankee’s win the 99 World Series.

    I know this to be true because he said so.

  347. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I got that Courtney Love for ya’ Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    *most overrated MCs ever*

    5. Tupac
    ————————
    How so?

    —————-

    he was WAY too influential…

    and i STILL dont know how or why…

    he wasnt no great lyricist or MC,.. he was a great actor though (underrated actor)..

    thats what drew alotta niggas and women in… his ability to portray something he clearly wasnt…

    but as an MC?.. overrated…
    ——————————————————–

    I don’t know how any one could argue with this.

    Pac is a GOAT candidate and a legend, but it has NOTHING to do with his skills as an MC. This guys was a legend in the way he carried himself, his influence, popularity, and presence on the mic. But he was an average MC.

  348. Cypher Says:

    I Am Legend is a horrible flick …

    ^
    the last 20 mins of it was white people propaganda same thing with Book of Eli

  349. Cypher Says:

    Jay invented the button up shirt.. Before Jay niggas held they shirts together with scotch tape

  350. SPITGAME Says:

    of course you gone shit on Will Smith just off the strength of the Will > Jay comment… Smh
    ^^^
    Right….

    In real news, Jay is just as popular if not more than Will Smith… But Will Smith IS popular… Dont get it fucked up….

    I dont know about over in the UK other than that real life experience I told but I know old Hov get major play on the radios out here, and his business ventures have him in the Forbes for more than just the money list, talk shows, Newspaper, all that type a shit… Niggas tryna acck like Jay aint a big celebrity because they have personal beefs smh….

    Aint nobody said Will wasnt popular, well, I didnt…

    I can tell you the only time I hear Will on the radio is summetime… in the summertime…

  351. Harlem World Says:

    Biggie & Puff never wore Yankee fitteds.

    #JayZfacts

  352. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Jay invented the button up shirt.. Before Jay niggas held they shirts together with scotch tape

    ^^

    smh

  353. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    Scanned the thread so….

    Kanye>>>>>>>>Ross.

    Don’t let Ross’ good delivery, nice beats and good punchlines [he’s overrated here, btw] fool you. He is no deeper than Jeezy, Yo Gotti, Gucci, and those other bamma rappers [am I allowed to say bamma?]. No depth behind his bars, he does pain better images but there is nothing behind them.

    Kanye is a unique character, and a game changer.

    And Kanye KILLED Ross on DIAND. Rawse got the nod for that song because his voice sounded good over the second half of that beat. That’s it.

  354. RIGZ Says:

    Shit, they still called Jay Z a “producer” in the papers moretime when he was in pics wid Beyonce until BP3 came out.

    I aint making this shit up.

  355. sealsaa Says:

    Black Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    I know you may find it hard, but hiphop dont run the rest of the world like it does in America. Jay just stepped out the “urban” bubble and into the “pop” bubble worldwide.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Bagging Beyonce opened alotta doors for that nigga, i can almost guarantee the Oprah appearances dont occur without the affiliation.

    ==============================

    Fif called that shit. “Mr. Knowles”. This nigga sonned Jay and Nas. Fif’s shit talking is legendary.

  356. Danny Ocean Says:

    Wow….niggas is really trying to shit on will smiths filmography like they ain’t seen every last ONE of them joints…smh…

    Riddle me this though …

    Jay-Z > Denzel

    ???

  357. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Scanned the thread so….

    Kanye>>>>>>>>Ross.

    ^^

    cBEENc

    Niggas just like opposing shit.

  358. Cypher Says:

    Jay was the first person to match black with black… He is a true fashion trailblazer

  359. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    I enjoy Ross’ music but the idea that he is a lyricist is laughable. He’s Jeezy with slicker beats, and admittedly catchy imagery that is largely stolen from mafia flicks and gangsta rap cliches.

    No one knows anything about Rick Ross the person….Kanye is the exact opposite. I feel like I know far too much about his breakups after the last two albums. It’s like rap’s Blood on the Tracks.

  360. Black Says:

    Ross is just a better TI to me. All his verses is cool but there are none that i feel should get the rewind treatment.

  361. Cypher Says:

    Riddle me this though …

    Jay-Z > Denzel

    ^
    it doesn’t matter as soon as niggas see Jays name anywhere near > or < they lose the common sense

  362. Harlem World Says:

    Biggie & Puff never rapped about Cristal

    Biggie & Puff never had Cristal bottles in all their videos

    #jayzfacts

  363. Tweezy Says:

    People wanna see Jay-Z, hear his raps and that…

    People fawn over Will Smith…they love that dude

  364. Jersey*made*me Says:

    No one knows anything about Rick Ross the person

    ^^

    Tia’s Diary in stores now!!!!!!

  365. Hopp Says:

    ” as soon as niggas see Jays name anywhere near > or < they lose the common sense "

    Gem …

  366. Cypher Says:

    Jesus > Jay-Z. ?

    Trick question Jay = Hova ….so

  367. sealsaa Says:

    Jersey*made*me Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
    No one knows anything about Rick Ross the person

    ^^

    Tia’s Diary in stores now!!!!!!
    ============================

    ^Cause jilted baby mothers never lie…

  368. Harlem World Says:

    Biggie would never STFU about Cristal at one point in his career

    dude would name drop Cristal in his music like they were paying him

    he even rhymes about Cristal on Jay’s first album

  369. sealsaa Says:

    Cypher Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    Jesus > Jay-Z. ?

    Trick question Jay = Hova ….so

    ========================

    Brilliant.

  370. RIGZ Says:

    Niggas tryna acck like Jay aint a big celebrity because they have personal beefs smh….

    ^^

    With all do respect, dont come at me with that shit. Rate me a bit please. Thanks.

  371. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Black Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Ross is just a better TI to me. All his verses is cool but there are none that i feel should get the rewind treatment.
    ————————————-

    Yep. I don’t know about better than T.I., but T.I. is also overrated IMO. Good flow, always does the right thing delivery wise on a guest verse [one of the best guys for a guest verse I’d say] but his lyrics in general are subpar. And when he tries to get serious he doesn’t do to well. Picks good beats, though.

    A shitload of southern “lyricists” have shitty lyrics. They always have good deliveries, however.

  372. Cypher Says:

    I’ve been walk in around with this iPad all day and I’m still at 80%

    iPads>>>>

    Autocorrect <<<<

    Sn my iPad no auto corrects any word with n and g to nigga… Is this a win?

  373. Jackson7 Says:

    People fawn over Will Smith…they love that dude

    ————————————-

    Gay people and white women fawn over Will Smith

    *fixed*

  374. Jersey*made*me Says:

    ^Cause jilted baby mothers never lie…

    ^^

    that nigga ain’t denied shit she said yet.

  375. Black Says:

    I will say that what Jay has accomplished being just a rapper is pretty amazing. The nigga dont sing, dance, or act. Niggas cant hate on that.

  376. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z created New York City and has plans to rename Brooklyn into Brooklyn Carter in honor of his first daughter.

    #jayzfacts

  377. Hopp Says:

    ” that nigga ain’t denied shit she said yet. ”

    Who would’ve believed him if he did ?

  378. Danny Ocean Says:

    ” as soon as niggas see Jays name anywhere near > or Carter

    sheeeeit….

    Denzel > Shawn

  379. Jackson7 Says:

    Kanye West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rick Ross

    whoever disutes that, should pawn their PC or whatever electronic device they commenting from, and call an ambulance to come take you to the nearest mental health facility and seek immediate help…

  380. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z created the Bentley.

    #jayzfacts

  381. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Who would’ve believed him if he did ?

    ^^

    sealsaa

  382. Jackson7 Says:

    disputes > disutes

  383. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    This is why I thought it was dumb to complain about Em borrowing from Masta Ace….

    Jay steals from EVERYONE.

    He gets credit for writing the prototype for the pop-rap album because of Blueprint. Fuck it…if anyone gets credit for that it’s the guy who executive produced Life After Death and Harlem World. But people hate Diddy.

  384. Black Brokaw Says:

    All black every thing, button ups, jerseys, liquor,
    ^
    Will smith has nothing in his career trendwise to match that cept for that hand shake in fresh prince

    but i dont know how you can compare actors to hiphop artists. Its like comparing presidents to popes

  385. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    Ross & T.I. both have always been flow over substance but Ross lately has been saying some dope shit

    his first verse on Transporter >>>>

  386. SPITGAME Says:

    Danny Ocean Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    Wow….niggas is really trying to shit on will smiths filmography like they ain’t seen every last ONE of them joints…smh…

    Riddle me this though …

    Jay-Z > Denzel

    ???
    LMAO
    Was it the Jay stans who started it or the camelhaters?

    Cypher says:

    Jay wish he could be will smith.

    Sn I’m stating a fact here no need to debate
    ^^^

    You brought that up Cyph not me, not Land…. All we said was Jay was just as popular as Will if not more…. And more relevant to right now….

    Its always Ok to throw Hov in the mud, bad to try to level the playin field…

    Now lets keep it funky

    Denzel > Will

    Forrest Whitaker > Will

    Sam Jackson > Will

    and the list goes on… Will has movies hes in that are good… But I watch Bad Boys for Martin funny ass… Independance Day was good but that had little to do with Wills acting…

    Whos watchin Hitch? Or Seven Pounds? Or Seven Degrees of Seperation or anything like this?

    And that has nothing to do with Hov being the GOAT rapper…

    But the “Camelhaters” take this time to try and stunt on Hov in any way they can, and try to make the the open Jay fans feel low for defending that bullshit… FOH lol

  387. Jackson7 Says:

    btw

    will smith’s son is a shitty actor..

    and his daughter should stop it…. right now

  388. hl Says:

    Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    his first verse on Transporter >>>>

    ^Word. I thought it was just me.

  389. JihaD Says:

    *returns for hospital*
    *lays youngest son back in his crib*
    *reads comments*
    *Facepalms*

    Yo BSG, check your e-mail and get back to me ASAP.

    JihaD

  390. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z was the first & only rapper to rock All Black Everything.

    Jay-Z invented the suit & tie.

    Jay-Z created hip hop.

  391. Rajon Trondo Says:

    And Kanye KILLED Ross on DIAND. Rawse got the nod for that song because his voice sounded good over the second half of that beat. That’s it.

    ^
    it should also be mentioned. rawse had what… 3 months to try and outdo ye on that song, and still didn’t

  392. Captain Planet Says:

    Kanye West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rick Ross

    whoever disutes that, should pawn their PC or whatever electronic device they commenting from, and call an ambulance to come take you to the nearest mental health facility and seek immediate help…

    ^^^

    I don’t think anyone ever said this tho. What I said after making it perfectly clear Kanye makes exceptional music is that I believe Ross is better lyrical than Kanye. Someone said Kanye is better than Ross based on his ” What you think I fucking rap for to push a Rav 4? “. I disagreed. I refuse to pawn my Mac for this.

    Proceed …

  393. Captain Planet Says:

    lyrically > lyrical.

    And niggas really think Ye killed Ross on Devil … Wow …

  394. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    Jay-Z DID master the ability to rewrite history in his raps and make it convincing, and something people would want to get behind. And also making his awkward steps into the corporate/non-hip hop world seem like great steps for hip hop as a genre.

    [btw, I actually do think Jay or Big are the GOAT…maybe Nas, but I enjoy slinging shit on a blog under the cloak of a conservative puppet’s name]

  395. Jersey*made*me Says:

    btw

    will smith’s son is a shitty actor..

    and his daughter should stop it…. right now

    ^^

    LOL,not the baby(c) Corey holcomb

    @RJ

    LOL @ Common in Just Wright too,BUT I fucked with that movie cuz of Dana,that’s fam.

  396. Hopp Says:

    ” N.E.R.D. – Nothing ”

    It’s sad how terrible this album is.

  397. JihaD Says:

    Harlem World Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    Jay-Z was the first & only rapper to rock All Black Everything.

    Jay-Z invented the suit & tie.

    Jay-Z created hip hop.

    ^

    Camelgoat was the first black person to wear a skully on MTV.

    He made them love us.

    JihaD

  398. sealsaa Says:

    ^^

    that nigga ain’t denied shit she said yet.

    =================

    Don’t make it true. Besides, she’s clearly hungry for attention. This the same bitch that sacrificed her own son’s dignity for the sake of clowing his father. Now she got book deal and a fur coat.

    Bitches is unscrupulous

  399. Jackson7 Says:

    LMAO @ niggas thinking will smith really be scrapping with aliens and robots forreal..

  400. Rajon Trondo Says:

    . Someone said Kanye is better than Ross based on his ” What you think I fucking rap for to push a Rav 4?

    ^
    that is not how this happened at all.

    you failed to mention the part about how you said kanye isn’t murking anyone on any tracks, and i mentioned this song in his defense. i mentioned that line as a memorable one. i didn’t say that line alone made ye > rawse.

    i said rawse is a one trick pony, much like jersey’s fat ass mother. and i stand by that. ye is more versatile than rawse. ye is better than rawse at everything except coke raps, eating donuts, and making sure everyone gets the honey buns they ordered on commisary.

  401. Harlem World Says:

    The only trend outside of music that Jay-Z deserves credit for is making Rocawear hot.

  402. JihaD Says:

    Rajon Trondo Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    And Kanye KILLED Ross on DIAND. Rawse got the nod for that song because his voice sounded good over the second half of that beat. That’s it.

    ^
    it should also be mentioned. rawse had what… 3 months to try and outdo ye on that song, and still didn’t

    ^

    I still ain’t heard ONE mask on here QUOTE a William Roberts line, or even provide one possible Gemstone…

    But let them tell it, he’s running the game.

    Sho ya right.

    *daps RaeTron the Chef*

    And the fuck is up with LWH?

    JihaD

  403. Cypher Says:

    Camel invented the triple entendre…

  404. Black Says:

    Don’t make it true. Besides, she’s clearly hungry for attention. This the same bitch that sacrificed her own son’s dignity for the sake of clowing his father. Now she got book deal and a fur coat.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    True, bitches can be vindictive. However Ross was a CO. Not based off of what Tia said but based off of pictures.

    The story she told about finding the nigga’s handcuffs always made me laugh tho.

  405. RIGZ Says:

    Now lets keep it funky

    Denzel > Will

    Forrest Whitaker > Will

    Sam Jackson > Will

    ^^^

    In terms of acting skill..? Of course.

    Not in terms of popularity tho. This is why Will’s films sell more tickets. And why he gets paid more. Than everybody.

  406. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    the GOAT debate is always entertaining but most people use Jay’s out of rap success as their talking points

  407. Jackson7 Says:

    acting is WAY easier than rapping..

    anybody can make believe..

    evryone cant rhyme words over beats

    JayZ >>>>>>>>> Will Smith

    cmon yo

    Jayz made BLEEK & DAME DASH rich and famous…

    Jazzy Jeff gotta work for a living…

    case BEEN closed

  408. Danny Ocean Says:

    commenting on iPads is fuggin frustrating at times.

    Only a quarter of my last comment was submitted …smh

  409. Hopp Says:

    ” LMAO @ niggas thinking will smith really be scrapping with aliens and robots forreal.. ”

    lol.

  410. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Don’t make it true. Besides, she’s clearly hungry for attention. This the same bitch that sacrificed her own son’s dignity for the sake of clowing his father. Now she got book deal and a fur coat.

    Bitches is unscrupulous

    ^^

    And he gave up a career in law enforcement to sell loads and loads of cocaine and then rap about it,LOL.

    C’mon son

  411. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    Captain Planet Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t think anyone ever said this tho. What I said after making it perfectly clear Kanye makes exceptional music is that I believe Ross is better lyrical than Kanye.
    ————————————

    But that’s wrong. And no, this is not subjective I’m afraid.

    There is nothing behind Ross’ lines. Kanye shows the ugly and good sides of himself [pause?] in his songs like not other mainstream rapper today. They are complete opposites in this regard, and in favour of Kanye.

  412. Harlem World Says:

    Is there some link or website that keeps note of trends Jay-Z has allegedly started?

    I remember seeing an old Complex link on that – it included x5’s & timbs & cristal.

  413. Captain Planet Says:

    @Rajon

    I’m not going to rehash old arguments. I just wanted to make it clear I never said Ross was a better artist than Kanye. That borders on blasphemy. But lyrically, I don’t think Yeezy is a juggernaut.

  414. Hopp Says:

    ” Camel invented the triple entendre… ”

    Pshhh …

    cBc

  415. JihaD Says:

    CamelGOAT invented the Yankee Cap.

    CamelGOAT invented the mixtape.

    CamelGOAT discovered Nasir and Chris Wallace, but chose to sign Memphis Bleek to prove he could make him a star.

    CamelGOAT told Lebron to sign to Miami, not New Jersey.

    CamelGOAT had Avant pose as R. Kelly in the sex tape vid to discredit him after R. Kelly tried to sue him.

    CamelFACTs.tumblr. com

    JihaD

  416. Rajon Trondo Says:

    And the fuck is up with LWH?
    ^
    taking this week and next week off, Aaron just moved and needs the weekend to get situated,and I just kinda didn’t feel like it this week. Next week is the super bowl, so fuck a radio show. We will be back on 2/13

  417. Cypher Says:

    Jay-Z DID master the ability to rewrite history in his raps and make it convincing, and something people would want to get behind. And also making his awkward steps into the corporate/non-hip hop world seem like great steps for hip hop as a genre.

    ^
    This… But to hear the stand tell it, Jay revolutionized the business world

  418. SPITGAME Says:

    In terms of acting skill..? Of course.
    ^^^
    Thats all I mean…

    Ive never said they had as much popularity or more money…
    And I never said Will wasnt popular or relevant…

  419. Jackson7 Says:

    Will Smiths movies make more money because they get distributed to more theaters and stay there longer…

    cause he’s a safe acceptable unthreatening, effeminate negro..

    not cause he’s some super icon…

  420. Captain Planet Says:

    @RNC

    I don’t want to argue this again. I still believe what I believe just wanted to make clear what that was.

  421. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Not rehashing, CP

    Just don’t condense my argument into one sentence in an attempt to make me seem like a moron.

    Carry on

  422. SPITGAME Says:

    See how it went from Will Smith to the Hatred? Lol and Smh

  423. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    I like Ross’ music btw… his last two LPs were nice.

    But he’s the best of the worst [bamma rap]. Nothing more.

  424. sealsaa Says:

    Black Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    Don’t make it true. Besides, she’s clearly hungry for attention. This the same bitch that sacrificed her own son’s dignity for the sake of clowing his father. Now she got book deal and a fur coat.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    True, bitches can be vindictive. However Ross was a CO. Not based off of what Tia said but based off of pictures.

    The story she told about finding the nigga’s handcuffs always made me laugh tho.
    ==========================

    Not denying that he was, just saying, bitches was born with silver tongues.

  425. Black Says:

    But lyrically, I don’t think Yeezy is a juggernaut.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Dont get me wrong there are verses where he says some lame ass shit. Still the nigga is better than Ross.

  426. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    ” Camel invented the triple entendre… ”

    Pshhh …

    cBc
    ===========
    don’t even ask him how

  427. Jersey*made*me Says:

    And the fuck is up with LWH?
    ^
    taking this week and next week off, Aaron just moved and needs the weekend to get situated,and I just kinda didn’t feel like it this week. Next week is the super bowl, so fuck a radio show. We will be back on 2/13

    ^^

    translation: the janitor was tripping about us leaving Little Debbie wrappers on the floor so he locked the mop closet. We ain’t bodied though.

  428. JihaD Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    acting is WAY easier than rapping..

    anybody can make believe..

    evryone cant rhyme words over beats

    JayZ >>>>>>>>> Will Smith

    cmon yo

    Jayz made BLEEK & DAME DASH rich and famous…

    Jazzy Jeff gotta work for a living…

    case BEEN closed

    ^

    Will BEEN a platinum rapper. Like a Multi-platinum rapper.

    Been had hits, and I ain’t talking bout the Nasir career resurrection.

    I’m talking bout that nigga was on world tours with Run DMC and shit.

    Winning Grammy’s and boycotting the awards- FIRST.

    But ok Land, I’ma let you keep stanning it up, or keep inciting the lesser minds, lol.

    *daps*

    JihaD

  429. Cypher Says:

    Smh.., I don’t even be trying to hate on the Camel.. But some of the shit y’all say is so crazy I have to counteract it

  430. Jackson7 Says:

    Steven A Smith > Will Smith

  431. RIGZ Says:

    Ive never said they had as much popularity or more money…
    And I never said Will wasnt popular or relevant…

    ^^^

    I thought the whole discussion was about popularity & status

    Not skill sets…

  432. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    @RNC

    I don’t want to argue this again. I still believe what I believe just wanted to make clear what that was.
    ———————————

    Fair enough. No offense intended by any of my comments, if it applies.

  433. Jackson7 Says:

    Will BEEN a platinum rapper. Like a Multi-platinum rapper.

    —————————

    so was Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc

    cmon b..

    sales???… grammys???

  434. Captain Planet Says:

    Steven A Smith > Will Smith

    ^^^^

    Haaaaa!!

  435. Hopp Says:

    ” he’s a safe acceptable unthreatening, effeminate negro.. ”

    Wow.

  436. LeRoy Green Says:

    Will wins cuz he’s whitey’s BEST black friend.

    Word to him having that scientology private school built in hollywood for his kiddies to attend.

  437. sealsaa Says:

    Jersey*made*me Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    Don’t make it true. Besides, she’s clearly hungry for attention. This the same bitch that sacrificed her own son’s dignity for the sake of clowing his father. Now she got book deal and a fur coat.

    Bitches is unscrupulous

    ^^

    And he gave up a career in law enforcement to sell loads and loads of cocaine and then rap about it,LOL.

    C’mon son
    ========================

    He’s a liar, not to be debated, but she got an axe to grind and alot to gain by shitting on him.

  438. Jackson7 Says:

    and nah Jihad..

    im not inciting the peanut gallery or stanning..

    i just honestly think will smith is kinda not like a big deal…

  439. JihaD Says:

    Cypher Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Smh.., I don’t even be trying to hate on the Camel.. But some of the shit y’all say is so crazy I have to counteract it

    ^

    This.

    But I’ve given up trying to talk sense, so now its just jokes.

    CamelGOAT Facts-

    -Did you know CamelGOAT invented the Internet? It says so right in Decoded, in the break down of his Big Pimpin Verse.

    JihaD

  440. RIGZ Says:

    All I was ever trying to basically say is this:

    Only recently has Jay had that status to appear on certain shows. Real “POP” shows. Before recently, he wouldnt have even been invited.

    Will can go on any show he wants, at any time, in ANY COUNTRY and kick his feet up.

    Theres a difference here. Jay just got into a space that Will’s been in for over 10 years. And thats all Im saying.

    You debate that if you want, but you know its true.

    I’ll let the stans & the haters take the floor.

  441. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z – possible GOAT rapper

    but he borrowed Will Smith’s neuralizer – he stays erasing peoples memories and rewriting history

    Jay-Z outside of music trends:

    making Rocawear hot
    making Ryan Kenny button ups hot

    thats it

  442. Jackson7 Says:

    west philadelphia born and raised, in the playground is where i spent most of my days

    #JihadJihadgEMS

  443. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    Ross’ delivery is nice, but he doesn’t have a bunch of different flows. He only does well on guest verses where the beat sounds like something he’d do a song over anyway. Like Eminem.

    Wayne, Jay, T.I., Kanye, even Drake all can rap over different kinds of beats. They know when and when not to spaz, what kind of flow to use. Ross and Em have that one technique they’ll do for anything. That’s why a guy like Eminem can be the biggest musician in the world and not get as many guest verses as Wayne, Kanye.

    Look at what Kanye did on Walking on the Moon. Perfect guest verse, all anyone could ask for. Imagine what Em would do…or Ross.

  444. SPITGAME Says:

    RIGZ Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Ive never said they had as much popularity or more money…
    And I never said Will wasnt popular or relevant…

    ^^^

    I thought the whole discussion was about popularity & status

    Not skill sets…
    ^^^
    It was… Check my comments… I said Will Smith was ver popular and relevant… I just shared with the group that Will Smith was not that great of an actor IMO… Matter fac I was cosignin somebody else sentiment… Somehow that turned into me Jay “Standing” and then the CAMELfacts appeared LOL… You and Cyph was tryna make it seem like Jay-Z wasnt popular… Thats just crazy lol…. If Jay isnt a pop icon, no rappers a pop icon…. Will Smith is an icon for his movies…

  445. Black Says:

    Theres a difference here. Jay just got into a space that Will’s been in for over 10 years. And thats all Im saying.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That pretty much ends the debate.

  446. Jackson7 Says:

    your moving with your auntie and uncle in atlanta……….

  447. JihaD Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    Will BEEN a platinum rapper. Like a Multi-platinum rapper.

    —————————

    so was Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc

    cmon b..

    sales???… grammys???

    ^

    But your previous argument was that Will couldn’t rap on beat, or whatever.

    I was just making a counter-point that it was his ORIGINAL skillset– like, what got him into the game.

    He was also considered good at it, at least going by the actual indicators of success.

    But whatever, CamelGOAT ain’t no icon. He’s a rapper with rich friends.

    Will Smith is an actor with rich friends. He ain’t no icon either.

    Both them niggas still get called NIGGER when they leave the rooms of those same white friends.

    And if Cracker had they way, both them niggas would be in the field somewhere or cleaning up a mcdonalds-FACT.

    JihaD

  448. Cypher Says:

    -Did you know CamelGOAT invented the Internet? It says so right in Decoded, in the break down of his Big Pimpin Verse.

    ^
    You read the book yet… theres a pdf floating on the net right now

  449. Rajon Trondo Says:

    ^^

    translation: the janitor was tripping about us leaving Little Debbie wrappers on the floor so he locked the mop closet. We ain’t bodied though.
    ^
    word.
    I need another one of those cd Roms from aol with 1000 free dial up hours. If anyone can help me out, hit me on friendster

  450. Captain Planet Says:

    @RNC

    I’m sorry didn’t Ross get a guest verse on one of the biggest album’s of the year? I’m pretty sure Drake said he got him on the next one. And a Ross verse on Carter 4 is not going to be surprise.

    I think niggas be overthinking/intellectualizing this shit too much. Music is about feeling.

  451. RIGZ Says:

    You and Cyph was tryna make it seem like Jay-Z wasnt popular… Thats just crazy lol…. If Jay isnt a pop icon,

    ^^

    To be honest, I expected more from you BSG.

    I never said any of that.

    Im saying he isnt a bigger pop icon than Will Smith. Cos he isnt. And WORLDWIDE, he just recently moved into the space Will is in. Which is true.

  452. Hopp Says:

    ” Look at what Kanye did on Walking on the Moon. ”

    That’s essentially a R&B record, but wit’ Dance-Pop tendencies …

    Why would Eminem or Rick Ross be rhyming on a Dance-Pop-geared song …

  453. Smooth Says:

    Outside of hiphop..jay-z is a nobody still

    Its the reality

    A person who doesnt listen to hiphop doesnt know wtf @ blueprint 2 is. Takeover only has like half a mil views on youtube…
    Yea empire state of mind was a billboard smash. But so was Chingy and J-Kwon. Jay needs at least 10 more numbers before he can reach lady gaga/beyonce territory
    To white ppl that dont listen to hiphop, 50 cnt is probably more well known than jay-z…just outta notoriety

    Jay-Z is TRYNA reach will smith level. Thats the whole point.
    Will smith gets invited to Nobel Peace Prize ceremonies.
    Yea Jays on Oprah…its called fakin it until you make it.

    Will smith BEEN on Oprah. AND his family.

  454. Jackson7 Says:

    Will wins cuz he’s whitey’s BEST black friend.

    ———————–

    but thats not a win to some of us…at all

  455. JihaD Says:

    Cypher Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
    -Did you know CamelGOAT invented the Internet? It says so right in Decoded, in the break down of his Big Pimpin Verse.

    ^
    You read the book yet… theres a pdf floating on the net right now

    ^

    Hell, nah. For what? CamelGOAT ain’t dropping no deep more mystical shit in his bars that needs to be “decoded.”

    JihaD

  456. Harlem World Says:

    Kanye is a very good rapper/artist – but his incessant self pity is beginning to piss me off

    some white people dont like me because i made a lil white girl cry – shock!
    some people think im gay because i dress like grace jones – shock!
    i dated a high class hoodrat and she used me as a sponsor – shock!

  457. Smooth Says:

    *10 more number ones

  458. Captain Planet Says:

    Theres a difference here. Jay just got into a space that Will’s been in for over 10 years. And thats all Im saying.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That pretty much ends the debate.

    ^^^

    What space was that exactly? Will last movie was Seven Pounds, how many niggas or even kizzas saw that?

    How come Will is deity status on nahright? Everyone is human and everyone takes L’s

  459. Cypher Says:

    You and Cyph was tryna make it seem like Jay-Z wasnt popular… Thats just crazy lol…. If Jay isnt a pop icon, no rappers a pop icon…. Will Smith is an icon for his movies…

    ^
    Roffle maybe i veered of track with the Camel jokes. But to clarify my point i feel Will Smith is a bigger pop Icon then Jay. Regardless how people feel about his acting or why he is accepted it is what it is.

    And to add to that Jay is trying to get into the same space Will Smith is in cause theres more money in it.

    I mean look how he plays the comediana when he on white shows

  460. JihaD Says:

    Somehow that turned into me Jay “Standing” and then the CAMELfacts appeared LOL…

    ^

    ROFLS.

    Yo, Don V, check your e-mail fam. i need an answer from you ASAP.

    JihaD

  461. Jackson7 Says:

    show of hands

    besides his Philly Homie, Jihad..

    who here thinks Will Smith was/is a good MC?

  462. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Co-sig Rigga.

    Will Smith > Hov

  463. Captain Planet Says:

    i dated a high class hoodrat and she used me as a sponsor – shock!

    ^^^

    I was surprised Kanye made a song about a former stripper he fell in love with and broke his heart. What part of the game is that? How many obvious lessons do you have to relearn? I thought he was in a higher space than that. Wiz Khalifa beating that shit up now and having her roll up his L’s. What an L. Imagine if 50 snagged that shit, niggas wouldn’t hear the end of it.

  464. Smooth Says:

    And empire state is probably the only number 1 jay will ever have….
    And it only did so well cause of the hook/beat/aliciakeys…
    And the average white person didnt even know wtf jay was talking about..”jesus cant save you life starts wheb the church end” and some shit about mcdonalds. if anything, jay almost jeapordized the tracks commercial aspect, BOB coulda done a better job.

  465. Black Says:

    Jay is popular no doubt but c’mon fam, Will Smith?

    Everybody, everywhere watches movies.

  466. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Hopp Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    ” Look at what Kanye did on Walking on the Moon. ”

    That’s essentially a R&B record, but wit’ Dance-Pop tendencies …

    Why would Eminem or Rick Ross be rhyming on a Dance-Pop-geared song …
    —————————————————

    Ross would DEFINATELY take the opportunity if it was offered. He tried on the Rude Boy remix and fucked it up. Em might say no, but the point is neither could do well if they tried.

    They can only rap over a certain kind of song; Ross realy isn’t THAT much more versatile than Jeezy. And it’s not even close with guys like Wayne, T.I., Kanye, Jay, Drake.

  467. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Summer summer summer tiiiiiiiime

  468. Rajon Trondo Says:

    Yo if nah right banned comments mentioning jay or nas each post would have 2 comments.

    Shit has gotten out of hand

    Can we go back to shitting on eminem’s discography please?

  469. Cypher Says:

    How come Will is deity status on nahright? Everyone is human and everyone takes L’s

    ^
    Lol he’s not… niggas is just saying Will is a bigger “pop icon” then Jay.. that is all.

  470. Captain Planet Says:

    show of hands

    besides his Philly Homie, Jihad..

    who here thinks Will Smith was/is a good MC?

    ^^^

    Also put into the equation that at a certain point he started having niggas write for him. What good MC does that? He made money and lost faith in his skills?

  471. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Boom shake shake shake the room

    Lyrical genius.

  472. Remixznflow Says:

    Will Smith was a good MC…

    not sure if he can rap now…

    do you lose that ability or is it like riding a bike?

  473. Hopp Says:

    ” They can only rap over a certain kind of song ”

    Yeah …

    A Hip Hop song …

    Which is cool wit’ me …

    A Hip Hop fan …

    I ain’t knockin’, tho, I perfectly see what you’re sayin’, I’m jus’ sayin’ Walking On The Moon was amongst the worst examples u could ever choose …

  474. Smooth Says:

    Will smith is the type of dude that TURNS down Oprah cause his schedule dont match

    Jay has to call oprah first to even get invited

  475. Captain Planet Says:

    Lol he’s not… niggas is just saying Will is a bigger “pop icon” then Jay.. that is all.

    ^^^

    You were also saying Will Smith makes $300 million a movie

    You ready to rescind that yet or are you sticking to your belief that Will is a billionaire on the dL?

  476. Jackson7 Says:

    Also put into the equation that at a certain point he started having niggas write for him. What good MC does that?

    ————–

    POWW!!!

    he dont write his scripts either… btw

  477. SPITGAME Says:

    Im saying he isnt a bigger pop icon than Will Smith. Cos he isnt. And WORLDWIDE, he just recently moved into the space Will is in. Which is true.
    ^^^
    While this may be true, I wasnt thinkin in the past tense I was thinkin more right now anyway… And right now, as far as pop icons… Jayzs the 1st segment on Oprahs TV station, Been on her show twice, MTO all the time, Forbes, Wall Street write ups, ESPN, MTV, BET… As a matter of fact, anything having to do wit Will and the kids other than Jaden, got Jay attached…. Maybe Will is tryna stay relevant by attaching himself to Hov… But this doesnt mean Will isnt a big icon… Im not even entertaining the other shit niggas is talkin lol

  478. Harlem World Says:

    Will Smith was a good MC

    but I dont class him as a legend – because he didn’t write a lot of his own material ,which is like a sin in hip hop (or so i believe)

    but he has made classic records

  479. RIGZ Says:

    Jazzy Jeff >>>>>>>> Fresh Prince musically.

    By about 200 miles.

  480. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Also put into the equation that at a certain point he started having niggas write for him. What good MC does that? He made money and lost faith in his skills?

    ^^What’s the difference between that and Jay-Z cribbing most of Biggie’s bars in his raps? Same sort of shit just a different stink.

  481. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    @RNC

    I’m sorry didn’t Ross get a guest verse on one of the biggest album’s of the year? I’m pretty sure Drake said he got him on the next one. And a Ross verse on Carter 4 is not going to be surprise.

    I think niggas be overthinking/intellectualizing this shit too much. Music is about feeling.
    ——————————————

    Honestly none of those verses used him in a capacity you didn’t see on either the lush sampled songs he does or the trunk rattlers he always does.

    Someone mentioned versatility in regards to Ross so I brought up the fact that he’s not really that versatile. That’s all.

  482. JihaD Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    show of hands

    besides his Philly Homie, Jihad..

    who here thinks Will Smith was/is a good MC?

    ^

    Don’t change my argument, Land.

    I ain’t EVER said Will was/is a good MC. If I did, kindly direct me to my comment.

    My point was that he done all the shit CamelGOAT did. He rapped, made actual history, and then moved on.

    I don’t give a fuck about anything else.

    Nor do I care about this “debate.” Its stupid. CamelGOAT is famous. Will is Famous. MLK is an ICON, Che is an ICON, Malcolm X is an ICON. JFK is an ICON.

    These tap dance niggas can shuck and jive on camera, on mics, and shill their wares to the unsuspecting populace til their minds rot. I could give a fuck less.

    I just don’t like people ignoring facts for the sake of their own argument.

    JihaD

  483. Black Says:

    Also put into the equation that at a certain point he started having niggas write for him. What good MC does that? He made money and lost faith in his skills?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I guarantee that Will Smith could give a fuck about what niggas think of him as a rapper. Shit, probably as an actor too. That nigga could put the sequel to Hancock out tomorrow and laugh to the bank.

  484. LeRoy Green Says:

    Remix….

    Eddie House says wassup.

    Thats all.

  485. Digital scales Says:

    I love tits

  486. Cypher Says:

    Will Smith was a good MC…

    not sure if he can rap now…

    do you lose that ability or is it like riding a bike?

    ^
    I think he’s to outta touch with the culture to lay a mean sixteen.. and if he does rap its gonna be a WIllows album which mean the whole verse gotta be kidsafe, sing songy, and easy to remember.

  487. Captain Planet Says:

    Will smith is the type of dude that TURNS down Oprah cause his schedule dont match

    Jay has to call oprah first to even get invited

    ^^^

    Either filming a movie or attending mass at the Church of Scientology. Niggas act like he’s a head of state.

  488. Hopp Says:

    ” do you lose that ability or is it like riding a bike? ”

    The only actual problem is that most, should they try it now, would attempt to sound like whoever else is hot at the time, then it ends up not so good.

    I’m sure Smith would fill that exact description.

  489. Captain Planet Says:

    I guarantee that Will Smith could give a fuck about what niggas think of him as a rapper. Shit, probably as an actor too. That nigga could put the sequel to Hancock out tomorrow and laugh to the bank.

    ^^^

    Seven Pounds was a bomb. This nigga is not invincible.

  490. Jackson7 Says:

    i seen alot of

    Jay vs Nas

    or

    WuTang vs Outkast

    or

    Red Sox vs Yankees

    but i never thought id see a JayZ vs Will Smith debate…

    JayZ is for grownups… will smith is for kids… karate kids

  491. Digital scales Says:

    I like big tits on a fat bitch

    Shit you not

  492. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Rigz you horrible little bummer (y) when’s that Project 7 part 2 happening? Slack bastard.

  493. Rajon Trondo Says:

    JihaD and SpitGame were the goons that beat up will smith and sent him running to bel-air

    you guys should be ashamed of yourselves

  494. Black Says:

    Nor do I care about this “debate.” Its stupid. CamelGOAT is famous. Will is Famous. MLK is an ICON, Che is an ICON, Malcolm X is an ICON. JFK is an ICON.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Gem

  495. RIGZ Says:

    I’d just like to say Fuck Woodro.

    Thanks.

  496. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Hopp Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    ” They can only rap over a certain kind of song ”

    Yeah …

    A Hip Hop song …

    Which is cool wit’ me …

    A Hip Hop fan …

    I ain’t knockin’, tho, I perfectly see what you’re sayin’, I’m jus’ sayin’ Walking On The Moon was amongst the worst examples u could ever choose …
    ——————————————-

    Not when referring to *versatility*. A song like that is the best example to use, it’s pretty far removed from a generic bamma song or a those dense beats Ross’ fat guy voice is made for.

    You can be a hip hop fan and still appreciate a rap verse on a pop song….

  497. LeRoy Green Says:

    I love tits

    ^^^^^6

    THIS.

    Also,

    *late pass*

    CUBANA LUST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    i’d sleep wit my face tween her cheeks

  498. Harlem World Says:

    Men In Black is GOAT music to 2 step to

    will smith x trackmasters >>>

  499. Remixznflow Says:

    # LeRoy Green Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Remix….

    Eddie House says wassup.

    Thats all.

    ^
    LOL… i cant wait until the mav’s go home early in the playoffs…

    bitch.

  500. RIGZ Says:

    # EnglandRepresent Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Rigz you horrible little bummer (y) when’s that Project 7 part 2 happening? Slack bastard.

    ^^

    LOL

    Valentines Day bro

  501. Hopp Says:

    ” Jazzy Jeff >>>>>>>> ”

    True story.

  502. Jersey*made*me Says:

    SMH @ this Jay Z>Will Smith becoming a “real” debate.

    Even Jay knows that’s ridiculous.

  503. EnglandRepresent Says:

    I like big tits on a fat bitch

    Shit you not

    ^^Which is convenient considering you only ever get to fuck ten ton Tessy’s. Last bitch you fucked had to get a fork lift truck to bring her to the restaurant.

  504. Black Says:

    Seven Pounds was a bomb. This nigga is not invincible.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Never said he was, I dont think he is a good actor which is why alot of his more serious movies tend to dissappoint. That said that nigga is the king of the summer blockbuster.

  505. Jackson7 Says:

    jihad says

    He was also considered good at it,

    ————–

    i was rebutting this portion of your comment b

  506. JihaD Says:

    EnglandRepresent Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
    Also put into the equation that at a certain point he started having niggas write for him. What good MC does that? He made money and lost faith in his skills?

    ^^What’s the difference between that and Jay-Z cribbing most of Biggie’s bars in his raps? Same sort of shit just a different stink.

    ^

    But Eng, he’s just “bigging up his brother, or big enough to do it”– its not the same (insert Blank Stare here (c) BSG)

    And like Skillz said, you’d be surprised how many of these niggas have seances and spirits all in they rhymes.

    JihaD

  507. RIGZ Says:

    Actually, Side B of Projet 7 been done for a long time ( i did the whole thing in the same sessions)…I just been sitting on it [II]

  508. Captain Planet Says:

    Nor do I care about this “debate.” Its stupid. CamelGOAT is famous. Will is Famous. MLK is an ICON, Che is an ICON, Malcolm X is an ICON. JFK is an ICON.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    If you put niggas like MLK at icon status that’s okay. But we’re talking pop icons, not revolutionary/political icons.

    All those niggas you named stood for something. Jay stands for coming from nothing to something, the hip-hop movement, keeping it street.

    Tell me what Will stands for? Kiddie raps? Faceless roles? Fresh Prince?

  509. Digital scales Says:

    # RIGZ Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    I’d just like to say Fuck Woodro.

    Thanks.
    _______

    Shit. Did you fuck your girl too?

    Lol

    WHAT UP!

    Shout to Engrep too that little dirty herpie ham wallet eating mushcake

  510. RIGZ Says:

    @ Jersey, Im saying tho…lol

  511. Hopp Says:

    ” Not when referring to *versatility*. A song like that is the best example to use ”

    No, it’s not. Yeah, it’s far from bamma, it’s polar even.

    But to highlight Eminem and Ross and whoever else wouldn’t be able to lay a good verse on Walking On The Moon, you’re praising whoever else can …

    And that’s a wrong example. Because it’s a Dance-Pop song. Once more, not only Eminem and Ross, but a lot more rappers wouldn’t even touch it …

    U can say they would do an awful job at it if they did. I don’t care. They still wouldn’t.

    Now, once more … I get the point … The example ? Still terrible …

  512. JihaD Says:

    Rajon Trondo Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    JihaD and SpitGame were the goons that beat up will smith and sent him running to bel-air

    you guys should be ashamed of yourselves

    ^

    Word. BSG do look like Homie that was Spinning him around in the Intro, lol.

    JihaD

  513. Jackson7 Says:

    Digital scales Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    I like big tits

    Shit you not

    —————–

    word to Tionna Smalls

    *daps woodro*

  514. RIGZ Says:

    wow, I never knew Paul Mooney invented Homie The Clown & brought Jim Carey to the show…as well as doing ALL the casting on the Richard Pryor show…that means he birthed Robin Williams too..

    This dude is a comedy GOD, just giving birth to shit all over…

  515. LeRoy Green Says:

    70 degrees today.

    Snow in the forecast for tuesday.

    its gonna be chilly for the superbowl on sunday.

    Dallas unpredictable ass weather <<<<<<<<<

  516. Captain Planet Says:

    SMH @ this Jay Z>Will Smith becoming a “real” debate.

    Even Jay knows that’s ridiculous.

    ^^^

    Funny thing is they just really started working together. Jay is more diversified than Will. Ace of Spades, Nets … Jay been getting his businessman on, now they putting their forces together

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2011/01/will-smith-jay-z-looking-to-revive-musical-annie-for-the-big-screen.html

  517. Cypher Says:

    All those niggas you named stood for something. Jay stands for coming from nothing to something, the hip-hop movement, keeping it street.

    Tell me what Will stands for? Kiddie raps? Faceless roles? Fresh Prince?

    ^
    smh.. what does this have to do with Will being a bigger pop icon then Jay?

    Stop trying to confuse the conversation..

    Btw keep in mind Jay came up sellin poison to his own people.. is this somthing thats praiseworthy?

  518. verses Says:

    Digital scales Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    I like big tits

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ( o ) ( o )

  519. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    BMF, Even Deeper and Transporter all display different flows

    niggas don’t be listenin

  520. Remixznflow Says:

    # LeRoy Green Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    70 degrees today.

    Snow in the forecast for tuesday.

    its gonna be chilly for the superbowl on sunday.

    Dallas unpredictable ass weather <<<<<<<<<

    ^
    they are saying HALF the country will get this storm… HALF THE COUNTRY…

    oh well thats two days of paid vacation for me… im all for it.

    weatherman says we get about 1 foot of solid snow… what are they sayin about dallas?

  521. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Hopp Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Yeah, it’s far from bamma, it’s polar even.

    Because it’s a Dance-Pop song.

    ———————————————

    This is exactly why. The guys I mentioned can step that far out of their lanes and do well [none of them started off rapping over those kind of songs let’s not forget]. Ross can’t, Em can’t.

  522. RIGZ Says:

    Im tempted to drop a verse in here & type out the whole thing for you accent challenged bredahs lol

  523. JihaD Says:

    All those niggas you named stood for something. Jay stands for coming from nothing to something, the hip-hop movement, keeping it street.

    Tell me what Will stands for? Kiddie raps? Faceless roles? Fresh Prince?

    ^

    But Will Smith did ALL of that. He came from nothing to something= FACT.

    He WAS a part of the original hip-hop movment= FACT.

    He won the Grammys, did the world Tours= FACT.

    He moved into TV and opened that lane for rappers= FACT.

    He moved into movies and allowed rappers to eventually get bigger and bigger movie roles= FACT.

    All that street shit and everything else means nothing= FACT.

    Grow up, homie. These rappers don’t give a fuck about you. They want your money, and anything they cal sell to you to get it they will= FACT.

    And Pursuit of Happyness? Legend of Bagger Vance? Ali? Faceless movies? Come on, B, you reaching.

    Name me the movies CamelGOAT been in. Streets is Watching? Backstage? State Property?

    Show ya right.

    JihaD

  524. sealsaa Says:

    verses Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Digital scales Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    I like big tits

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ( o ) ( o )

    ====================

    (.y.)

  525. Captain Planet Says:

    All those niggas you named stood for something. Jay stands for coming from nothing to something, the hip-hop movement, keeping it street.

    Tell me what Will stands for? Kiddie raps? Faceless roles? Fresh Prince?

    ^
    smh.. what does this have to do with Will being a bigger pop icon then Jay?

    Stop trying to confuse the conversation..

    Btw keep in mind Jay came up sellin poison to his own people.. is this somthing thats praiseworthy?

    ^^^

    It’s more on point that you are. I’m saying a pop icon has to stand for something. You can’t just do your job well. You have to be unique and overachieve. Will’s just been doing his job.

    And pop icons don’t have positive or negative connotations. Plenty of mafia figures could make the cut and Nixon clearly makes it.

  526. Black Says:

    All those niggas you named stood for something. Jay stands for coming from nothing to something, the hip-hop movement, keeping it street.

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    SMH Jay stands for making money

    that is all

  527. Jackson7 Says:

    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*

  528. Cypher Says:

    BMF, Even Deeper and Transporter all display different flows

    niggas don’t be listenin

    ^
    nah its all the same flow.. the beats just different is all…

    Same 3 words and pause shit he always does…

  529. Harlem World Says:

    Birdman has very little money

    Roc Nation has sold more records than Cash Money

    Jay-Z is God

    #jayzfacts

  530. Cypher Says:

    I like big tits

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ( o ) ( o )

    ====================

    (.y.)

    ^
    Lmao .. niggas is juveniles

  531. SPITGAME Says:

    Ouuuutttttt side of Philadelphia born and raised,
    On the playground is where I smoked most of my haze…

    And on most of my days,
    I played the cut wit the old heads that wasnt near close to my age
    wit they coke in they coat this is post gold ropes and them fades
    nigga this is polos an some waves
    nigga this is snow cones on a chain….

    *Salutes Shells*

    I replied to your emails bro…..

  532. RIGZ Says:

    I’m saying a pop icon has to stand for something.

    ^^

    Not true.

    Britney Spears never stood for diddly squat.

  533. verses Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    I like big tits

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ( o ) ( o )

    ====================

    (.y.)

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ( o ) ( o ) = big ole fake si,licon dirty porn star tittites

    (.y.) = young impressionable dirty hipster girl titties.

  534. RIGZ Says:

    # Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*

    ^^^

    Cosign.

    Old Jada would get it tho. New Jada is looking not so lovable lol

  535. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Cypher Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    BMF, Even Deeper and Transporter all display different flows

    niggas don’t be listenin

    ^
    nah its all the same flow.. the beats just different is all…

    Same 3 words and pause shit he always does…
    ——————————–

    This

  536. Jackson7 Says:

    they are saying HALF the country will get this storm… HALF THE COUNTRY…

    ——————–

    damn… the 2012 predictions are true… the ice age is returning..

    QUICK…somebody get Will Smith to save us all…

    we need more “Summertime”

  537. Hopp Says:

    ” This is exactly why. ”

    I kno’ that. I said I get the point, u refuted, so I spelled it out.

    ” Ross can’t, Em can’t. ”

    Ross can’t. Em can’t. It’s a Dance-Pop song. Therefore it doesn’t matter.

    Someone else probably can. Also doesn’t matter.

  538. LeRoy Green Says:

    what are they sayin about dallas?

    ^^^^^^

    didn’t say exactly how much snow is predicted, just that its a winter storm warning in effect 2mrw night. Shit aint cool man this is TEXAS gotdammit.

  539. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @Rigz

    He also did most of the writing for Good Times. Paul Mooney annoys me sometimes but his place in the game is solidified.

  540. Danny Ocean Says:

    Rapping ain’t even real money, Acting is the real money, I just rap ’cause I’m nice (c) Cam’ron

  541. JihaD Says:

    @ BSG- Got Em Fam. Send me your hook for that doing great jawn when you get a chance.

    JihaD

  542. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # RIGZ Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    I’m saying a pop icon has to stand for something.

    ^^

    Not true.

    Britney Spears never stood for diddly squat.
    —————————————-

    Not intentionally, but she definitely represented something about Western Society and Culture. At least I think so.

  543. SPITGAME Says:

    Real Question….

    What the fuck did Will Smith get invited to the Nobel Peace Prize shit for?

  544. RIGZ Says:

    Jersey*made*me Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    @Rigz

    He also did most of the writing for Good Times.

    ^^

    for real….?

    Damn.

    I already thought he was a genius, but damn. He’s the James Brown of Comedy.

  545. Captain Planet Says:

    Grow up, homie. These rappers don’t give a fuck about you. They want your money, and anything they cal sell to you to get it they will= FACT.

    ^^^

    I don’t remember saying Jay had compassion towards me.

    Will Smith speaks grammatically correct English and attends Scientology meetings. I’m not saying either of these are bad things but they do not connect to poor inner city youths. Jay-Z dresses like them and talks like them. People see Will Smith and what to act. People see Jay-Z and what to escape their environment and make something of themselves because he is no different than they are.

    Sidenote: Are you capable of having discussions without screaming and namecalling? You attacking me like I just said something at your mother. If you can’t have a calm, thought-provoking conversations that says more about you than my lack of logic and I won’t respond. Chuuch.

  546. Jackson7 Says:

    I AM FREEonSMASH >>> I AM LEGEND

  547. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    lets break down the Ross and Jeezy thing

    to me

    Jeez over Lex Luger or any hard beat > Ross over Luger

    NOW

    The only thing Ross has over Jeezy

    is that Ross shits on Jeezy over justice league/devil in a new dress/soulful beats

    thats it

    when it come to hard street shit jeezy got that shit locked

    Jeezy need to do more shit like “Im Just Sayin Tho” and “Done it All”

    Cuz over elegant lavish production Ross got him

  548. Remixznflow Says:

    Shit aint cool man this is TEXAS gotdammit.

    ^
    well it might be texas but nigga you in DALLAS… so you might as well be in nebraska… you gon’ feel this weather…

    if you not in san antonio or houston… fuck it… winter is winter.

  549. Jersey*made*me Says:

    The irony of Vick and Ryan BOTH on the NFC pro bowl team.

    ATL bailed like bitches on Mike after all the money he made them.

  550. JihaD Says:

    Jackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*

    ^

    Having actual sex and actual children with your wife >>> Being in a business relationship marriage

    *throws up the Roc*

    JihaD

  551. sealsaa Says:

    Jackson7 Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*
    ===========================

    If you notice though, Will Smith’s success overshadows Jada’s as does Beyonce’s to Jay’s. Smith is a name on his own, Jay didn’t cross into pop icon status until he wifed her. Fif called it, Mr. Knowles

  552. Smooth Says:

    Will smith opened the door for Jay

    Had the businesses opportunies that exist today been avaiable to Will during the start of the 90s, he woulda had his own clothing line etc…
    He had the number 1 comedy show and number 1 album/singles
    And will represents wayyy more than jay does. Will came from nothing, won the first ever hiphop grammy, took over TV, then took over cinema…all via POSITIVITY too. Hes made ppl laugh, dance and cry.
    Summertime is bigger than empire state of mind will ever be. They still play summertime on the radio at the respective time of the year.

  553. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Hopp Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Ross can’t. Em can’t. It’s a Dance-Pop song. Therefore it doesn’t matter.

    Someone else probably can. Also doesn’t matter.
    ———————————————

    Rappers have rapped over non rap songs for a while now. Hip hop is sonically based on sampling and borrowing from different sounds and genres. Being able to rap over a different kind of sound IS a skill that matters.

  554. Captain Planet Says:

    Not intentionally, but she definitely represented something about Western Society and Culture. At least I think so.

    ^^^

    Truth. took the worlds right out of my mouth. I was going to put in Lindsay Lohan as an example for this earlier but I was sure niggas would say if Lohan is an icon then no one wants to be an icon. But these people stand for something and it doesn’t always have to be positive.

  555. RIGZ Says:

    # SPITGAME Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Real Question….

    What the fuck did Will Smith get invited to the Nobel Peace Prize shit for?

    ^^^

    Simply because he’s extremely popular, powerful & is the biggest actor in the world.

    Somehow, they think it will make everyone that pays attention to his movies pay attention to the ceremony.

  556. Remixznflow Says:

    LOL.. niggas is “typing loudly” again…

  557. Jersey*made*me Says:

    @Jihad

    whaddup cannon

  558. Cypher Says:

    What the fuck did Will Smith get invited to the Nobel Peace Prize shit for?

    ^
    Cause he’s Will Smith.. and they need someone to host it.

    no sarcasm intended..

  559. SPITGAME Says:

    Jackson7 Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    they are saying HALF the country will get this storm… HALF THE COUNTRY…

    ——————–

    damn… the 2012 predictions are true… the ice age is returning..

    QUICK…somebody get Will Smith to save us all…

    we need more “Summertime”
    ^^^
    LMAO!

  560. LeRoy Green Says:

    Name me the movies CamelGOAT been in. Streets is Watching? Backstage? State Property?

    ^^^^^^

    Jay did have that small cameo in Alladin tho. No script, he just rode into the sunset wit an arab on his back.

  561. RIGZ Says:

    So you can make an excuse about Britney standing for something but not Will…?

    Wow.

  562. Captain Planet Says:

    ackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*

    ^

    Having actual sex and actual children with your wife >>> Being in a business relationship marriage

    *throws up the Roc*

    JihaD

    ^^^

    Don’t you know most dudes in Scientology are gay? Scientologists think they have the cure to homosexuality. That’s why John Travolta over there and Tom Cruise’s suspect ass.(nh)

  563. SPITGAME Says:

    Cypher Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    What the fuck did Will Smith get invited to the Nobel Peace Prize shit for?

    ^
    Cause he’s Will Smith.. and they need someone to host it.

    no sarcasm intended..
    ^^^
    smh lol

  564. verses Says:

    Nas > Jay Z

    Fat Joe is a legend.

    Et cetera Et cetera Et cetera.

    Discuss.

  565. RIGZ Says:

    One sec, ima upload this verse i did over this Pharoah Monch beat…and get the bars if i can…

  566. Captain Planet Says:

    So you can make an excuse about Britney standing for something but not Will…?

    Wow.

    ^^^

    It’s not an excuse it’s a statement of fact. I’ve left the door open for you guys to tell me what he stands for? Making Music from Movies? Being Black in movies? Scientology? C’mon

  567. verses Says:

    Jay did have that small cameo in Alladin tho. No script, he just rode into the sunset wit an arab on his back.

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    *chukles*

  568. Hopp Says:

    ” Rappers have rapped over non rap songs for a while now. ”

    To obtain money, not display ability.

    Kudi can lay a guest verse to a Lady Gaga song and she would be able to release it. Common wouldn’t.

    Go head and say Kudi got the edge. If u lay that as an characteristic that matters when comparing both, it’s end of argument, ‘case I ain’t even entertaining that.

  569. Jackson7 Says:

    “…I pulled up to the house about seven or eight, And I yelled to the cabby “yo, Homes smell you later”…”

    will smith went IN right thurr

  570. Harlem World Says:

    Jay-Z repped New York hard during the East vs West beef.

    Jay-Z wore a Teflon in his video before Prodigy.

    Jay-Z doesnt trust uppity white folks – he keeps the cannon tucked (ll) during meetings with BFF’s John Menielly & Lyor Cohen

    #jayzfacts

  571. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    i retract my statements

    Jeezy on Justice Leauge production > Ross over Justice League production

    “Done it All is a perfect example”

    Hearing Jeezy Coke Rap is like watching a A Real Life Documentary

    Hearing Ross Coke Rap is like watching an fictional HBO Original Series

    The HBO Series has more glamor and glitz and may be more appealing to the eye

    but that shit is fiction

    The Documentary is more gritty,and less flashy, but more accurate and authentic

  572. SPITGAME Says:

    Having actual sex and actual children with your wife >>> Being in a business relationship marriage

    *throws up the Roc*

    JihaD

    ^^^
    LMAO! niggas is crazy yo

  573. Alpha Says:

    Niggas is still debating will smith in here?

    What up tho…

  574. Smooth Says:

    Will Smith speaks grammatically correct English and attends Scientology meetings. I’m not saying either of these are bad things but they do not connect to poor inner city youths. Jay-Z dresses like them and talks like them. People see Will Smith and what to act. People see Jay-Z and what to escape their environment and make something of themselves because he is no different than they are.

    ^^^

    Did you never watch fresh prince?
    Or the early 90s grammys

    Will smith spoke and dressed urban
    Will smith was wearing baggy clothes, back to front jumpers and jordans
    He went on talk shows rocking throwback jerseys and caps until 97

    Theres a point in ones life when you have to grow up. Of course, wills priorities would change. He is a FATHER, of course hes gona start talking and dressing normal. Even jay-z traded the jerseys for suits, and doent use slang in interviews. Jay’s trying the best he can to change

  575. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Captain Planet Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Not intentionally, but she definitely represented something about Western Society and Culture. At least I think so.

    ^^^

    Truth. took the worlds right out of my mouth. I was going to put in Lindsay Lohan as an example for this earlier but I was sure niggas would say if Lohan is an icon then no one wants to be an icon. But these people stand for something and it doesn’t always have to be positive.
    —————————————————

    Yeah, something about child stars peaking early, and falling apart because they couldn’t grow up in the spotlight.

    [You could even add MJ to that but he’s also the greatest musical entertainer of the 20th Century so he already stood for something, haha.]

  576. Hopp Says:

    Nas > Jay Z
    Fat Joe is a legend.

    ^ verses’s boss is a cunt.

  577. Remixznflow Says:

    this might be the LONGEST a Jay Z convo has carried on…

    and its changed into so many different topics…

  578. A-LO Says:

    Hi-Teknology 1 & 2…

    #sleptonnearclassics

  579. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    also Ross danced all over that Window Seat (remix)

    stop letting the CO past cloud your judgement…son can rap well

  580. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    Jay Z > Your Life

    Nas > Jay Z

  581. JihaD Says:

    Grow up, homie. These rappers don’t give a fuck about you. They want your money, and anything they cal sell to you to get it they will= FACT.

    ^^^

    I don’t remember saying Jay had compassion towards me.

    Will Smith speaks grammatically correct English and attends Scientology meetings. I’m not saying either of these are bad things but they do not connect to poor inner city youths. Jay-Z dresses like them and talks like them. People see Will Smith and what to act. People see Jay-Z and what to escape their environment and make something of themselves because he is no different than they are.

    Sidenote: Are you capable of having discussions without screaming and namecalling? You attacking me like I just said something at your mother. If you can’t have a calm, thought-provoking conversations that says more about you than my lack of logic and I won’t respond. Chuuch.

    ^

    So speaking correct English and believing in something is… wrong?

    Ok.

    We don’t need to continue our discussion.

    Everything else your saying is conjecture. Thats like saying people see Obama and see Young Jeezy and are more inspired by Young Jeezy. Thats a failure on the part of our family system, not an indictment on the character of either person.

    Learn your history. I’m not going to bother to continue with this because, as I said, this is stupid. Neither of these people are icons– they are entertainers.

    Oh, and struck out the rest of what you said because it was bullshit. Show me where I called you a named or attacked you. I told you to grow up because if you honestly believe Shawn Carter is some kind of Messiah–motivating those lesser peoples to do better in life– your not old enough of responsible enough to know better, and that is a fact.

    JihaD

  582. Jackson7 Says:

    Will smith opened the door for Jay

    ———————

    LMAO… LMAO…LMAO

    nigga, RunDMC and LLCoolJ BEEN did that

  583. Hopp Says:

    “…I pulled up to the house about seven or eight, And I yelled to the cabby “yo, Homes smell you later”…”
    will smith went IN right thur

    ^ lol.

  584. Hopp Says:

    ” Jay did have that small cameo in Alladin tho. No script, he just rode into the sunset wit an arab on his back. ”

    LOL Green got jokes …

  585. Captain Planet Says:

    Theres a point in ones life when you have to grow up. Of course, wills priorities would change. He is a FATHER, of course hes gona start talking and dressing normal. Even jay-z traded the jerseys for suits, and doent use slang in interviews. Jay’s trying the best he can to change

    ^^^

    Change? Why would he change? He would lose the streets and the common man. You guys really think he wants to be Will Smith don’t you? Once you leave the streets you can’t go back. Will can’t drop an album.

  586. LeRoy Green Says:

    Hi-Teknology 1 & 2…

    #sleptonnearclassics

    ^^^^^^6

    YEP

  587. sealsaa Says:

    Captain Planet Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    ackson7 Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Beyonce > Jada Pinckett Smith

    *gets jiggy with it*

    ^

    Having actual sex and actual children with your wife >>> Being in a business relationship marriage

    *throws up the Roc*

    JihaD

    ^^^

    Don’t you know most dudes in Scientology are gay? Scientologists think they have the cure to homosexuality. That’s why John Travolta over there and Tom Cruise’s suspect ass.(nh)
    ==========================

    What business relationship? Who the fuck was Jada Pinkett before she married Will Smith? She played in some hood classics, and had a supporting role on “A Different World”. This nigga had his own show, and was a box office monster. Besides pussy, and those funny looking kids, what was he getting out of being married to her?

    Same goes for Jay and Bey. She’s his Will Smith.

  588. Cypher Says:

    Jay did have that small cameo in Alladin tho. No script, he just rode into the sunset wit an arab on his back.

    ^
    smh/lol

  589. verses Says:

    ^ verses’s boss is a cunt.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    Homie, that doesnt belong on the list cause it aint debatable.

    Things that are not debatable:

    My boss is a cunt.

    Wale is the worst rapper of all time.

    Wasulu is a gay.

    Jokes about Jay being a Camel will never get old.

    MBDTF is over hyped.

    Et cetera Et cetera Et cetera.

    Carry on.

  590. Hopp Says:

    ” and its changed into so many different topics… ”

    That was the key, tho.

  591. JihaD Says:

    LeRoy Green Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    Name me the movies CamelGOAT been in. Streets is Watching? Backstage? State Property?

    ^^^^^^

    Jay did have that small cameo in Alladin tho. No script, he just rode into the sunset wit an arab on his back.

    ^

    Oh…. Oh… Shit.

    *Tries to stop a speed car barehanded*

    JihaD

  592. RIGZ Says:

    MBDTF is over hyped.

    ^^

    It is slightly, but its still dope tho. Very dope.

  593. Captain Planet Says:

    I told you to grow up because if you honestly believe Shawn Carter is some kind of Messiah–motivating those lesser peoples to do better in life– your not old enough of responsible enough to know better, and that is a fact.

    ^^^

    Obama said it himself: Not all of you can be Weezy or Kobe.

    Both Obama and I realize entertainers motivate these kids. Clearly you know better.

  594. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    Hopp Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    ” Rappers have rapped over non rap songs for a while now. ”

    To obtain money, not display ability.
    ————————————–

    Nope. This may sound crazy but making a good pop song is also an art in itself. It’s NEVER that black and white, unless you think MJ didn’t try to make good art. Or The-Dream, since it’s his song.

    And I’m not sure the Cudi-Common makes sense at all. Cudi’s never had a good verse ever…even on his own songs. Common would win before I even got to hear is voice. I still haven’t even decided if Cudi’s even a rapper.

  595. Cypher Says:

    Change? Why would he change? He would lose the streets and the common man. You guys really think he wants to be Will Smith don’t you? Once you leave the streets you can’t go back. Will can’t drop an album.

    ^
    Have you watched any of Jays recent interviews?.. Chris Martin is Jays best friend and some other assorted random kizzas. That nigga all ready told ya’ll He’s already home.

  596. Remixznflow Says:

    29 states… over 3 days… NY is gonna get CRUSHED again… lol

    smh…

  597. Hopp Says:

    Things that are not debatable:
    My boss is a cunt.
    Wale is the worst rapper of all time.
    Wasulu is a gay.
    Jokes about Jay being a Camel will never get old.
    MBDTF is over hyped.

    ^ * adds ” Gucci Mane is mentally retarded ” *

  598. Jackson7 Says:

    Will Smith opened the door for Young MC and Tone Loc

    *fixed*

  599. Harlem World Says:

    Back in 97 Rocafella signed a group from HARLEM called Diamonds In Da Rough

    guess what they used to throw up and rap about even before the deal?

    *throws up diamond sign*

  600. Alpha Says:

    Nah is having a debate about Jay-Z vs movie/Tv stars…

    That alone, should tell you JAY-Z>>>>>>nas lol

    Carry On

  601. JustRoc Says:

    Obama said it himself: Not all of you can be Weezy or Kobe.

    Both Obama and I realize entertainers motivate these kids. Clearly you know better.

    Thats why we grind until we get there

  602. Captain Planet Says:

    What business relationship? Who the fuck was Jada Pinkett before she married Will Smith? She played in some hood classics, and had a supporting role on “A Different World”. This nigga had his own show, and was a box office monster. Besides pussy, and those funny looking kids, what was he getting out of being married to her?

    Same goes for Jay and Bey. She’s his Will Smith.

    ^^^

    She’s his cover. Not all broads would marry a gay man. She gets money and exposure. He gets a muscular cover story. You guys can’t see what’s right in front of you. Dudes homo. How many niggas you see in Scientology? He’s there for a reason. Trying to cure his “disease”, they got rods for that shit or something.

  603. LeRoy Green Says:

    @ Remix you exposed yourself on twitter sir.

    All Seeing Eye tatoo on your right arm?? With sunrays beaming behing it??

    I’m proud of you brotha. Get that money.

    *daps*

  604. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    To an extent though, Britney and Lindsay were just going back to their roots. I’m not sure how the mainstream media missed this.

    If she weren’t famous, Britney would have gotten impregnated by a guy like Federline earlier. Once trash, always trash.

  605. Jackson7 Says:

    New York is overrated

  606. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    The Carter > The Carter 2, 3 and 4 put together

    Weezy over Mannie Fresh beats > Auto tune, pre-post jail Weezy

    nigga

    Jay-Z did everything your favorite rapper least favorite rapper talks and dreams about

    He has been at the top of hip hop discussions since

    96
    97
    98
    99
    00
    01
    02
    03
    04
    05
    06
    07
    08
    09
    10
    11

    He Runs shit

    and can still get busy with the best of them

    Fuck what you heard

    and he Fucks a top 5 bitch in the game with no condom

    The nigga cant be touched

  607. Danny Ocean Says:

    Kobe had 41 pts and 0 assists.

    Gully.

  608. verses Says:

    Things that are not debatable:
    My boss is a cunt.
    Wale is the worst rapper of all time.
    Wasulu is a gay.
    Jokes about Jay being a Camel will never get old.
    MBDTF is over hyped.

    ^ * adds ” Gucci Mane is mentally retarded ” *

    ^^^^^^^^^

    *adds ” The G is silent in lasagna, gnome, sign, campaign, reign, foreigner diaphragm, design, resign.”

  609. Remixznflow Says:

    # LeRoy Green Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    @ Remix you exposed yourself on twitter sir.

    All Seeing Eye tatoo on your right arm?? With sunrays beaming behing it??

    I’m proud of you brotha. Get that money.

    *daps*

    ^
    *sacrifices Dallas Mavericks Jersey*

  610. Captain Planet Says:

    Have you watched any of Jays recent interviews?.. Chris Martin is Jays best friend and some other assorted random kizzas. That nigga all ready told ya’ll He’s already home.

    ^^^

    Jay’s best friend? That’s a stretch. Jay’s best friend rolls his weed and still rocks du-rags in 2011. Will’s best friend is Tom Cruise. Who changed and who didn’t?

  611. Cypher Says:

    She’s his cover. Not all broads would marry a gay man. She gets money and exposure. He gets a muscular cover story. You guys can’t see what’s right in front of you. Dudes homo. How many niggas you see in Scientology? He’s there for a reason. Trying to cure his “disease”, they got rods for that shit or something.

    ^
    smh.. no you just spouting random shit with no proof.

  612. JustRoc Says:

    ” Rappers have rapped over non rap songs for a while now.”

    Nah up here in Ct Luda be all over them kizza songs

  613. Remixznflow Says:

    # Danny Ocean Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Kobe had 41 pts and 0 assists.

    Gully.

    ^
    that nigga told his whole team to fuck off…

    and they did…

  614. SPITGAME Says:

    Its like this…. Niggas is so hardpressed to discredit Shawn that they bring out as much slander as they can to use as ammo, even if it means using Will Smith who really has nothing to do with Jay’s celebrity and vice versa (Until now when Jay signed Wills daughter, and put money into a movie company to Remake Annie with her…)….

    And niggas is so hardpressed to defend the slander that it almost works in the haters favor… Its a lose lose….

    I take solace in the fact that Nas could never be in this conversation…. Especially when ya owe damn near 10 million in taxes…. smh

  615. Remixznflow Says:

    # verses Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Things that are not debatable:
    My boss is a cunt.
    Wale is the worst rapper of all time.
    Wasulu is a gay.
    Jokes about Jay being a Camel will never get old.
    MBDTF is over hyped.

    ^ * adds ” Gucci Mane is mentally retarded ” *

    ^^^^^^^^^

    *adds ” The G is silent in lasagna, gnome, sign, campaign, reign, foreigner diaphragm, design, resign.”

    *adds “>>>Marv Though*

  616. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    The simple fact that

    Jay Z can be on the cover of a national publicated magazine with Warren Buffet, and have lunch with crackas and then do coke rap and no one question is authenticity or street cred should tell you this nigga is the greatest example of how to balance both worlds

    there shouldnt even be a discussion

    Hov can fucking be with Mayor Bloomberg and Obama on Monday and Tuesday Drop a song filled with Coke Rap and every nigga in every inner city of America will be bumpin that shit

    He has the game figured out to a T

    why are we still discussing he supremacy

    that shit is not a question

  617. Cypher Says:

    Jay’s best friend? That’s a stretch. Jay’s best friend rolls his weed and still rocks du-rags in 2011

    ^
    I didnt know Chris Marten rolled weed

  618. Remixznflow Says:

    Only thing i know or certain…

    Nas and Jay are in the music business

    They make albums

    They have fans

    …..and thats. about. it.

  619. Smooth Says:

    DIDNT JAY-Z JUST RELEASE A BOOK SAYING THAT THE BITCH IN “99 PROBLEMS” WAS ABOUT A DOG AND NOT A FEMALE???

    Hes embarassed by his past, hes tryng to change, he wants to be will smith

  620. Captain Planet Says:

    smh.. no you just spouting random shit with no proof.

    ^^^

    You right, I’m not an investigative journalist trying to catch pics of Will on the dL.

    But two things are certain. Scientologists do believe the can cure homosexuality. Will Smith is one of a handful of niggas over there, with a wife more muscular than Derrick Rose (nh). You do the math.

  621. SPITGAME Says:

    F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
    The Carter > The Carter 2, 3 and 4 put together

    Weezy over Mannie Fresh beats > Auto tune, pre-post jail Weezy

    nigga

    Jay-Z did everything your favorite rapper least favorite rapper talks and dreams about

    He has been at the top of hip hop discussions since

    96
    97
    98
    99
    00
    01
    02
    03
    04
    05
    06
    07
    08
    09
    10
    11

    He Runs shit

    and can still get busy with the best of them

    Fuck what you heard

    and he Fucks a top 5 bitch in the game with no condom

    The nigga cant be touched
    ^^^
    LMAO! CO Sign everything but The Carter > The Carter 2… Its the other way around

  622. LeRoy Green Says:

    I like the Celtics but KG deserved that elbow to the head today.

    You punch a man in the balls and karma comes back around FAST. God dont like ugly

  623. Remixznflow Says:

    why are we still discussing he supremacy

    ^
    simple

    because niggas hate JayZ… cBc

    its a sport at this point…

  624. Cypher Says:

    I take solace in the fact that Nas could never be in this conversation…. Especially when ya owe damn near 10 million in taxes…. smh

    ^
    Sadly this is true…

  625. sealsaa Says:

    * adds ” Gucci Mane is mentally retarded ” *

    ==============================

    It was common knowlege, but seeing him committed to the puzzle factory did my hater heart good.

  626. Captain Planet Says:

    Jay’s best friend? That’s a stretch. Jay’s best friend rolls his weed and still rocks du-rags in 2011

    ^
    I didnt know Chris Marten rolled weed

    ^^^

    Damn, Cypher. I was talking about Memphis Bleek. You stay 3 steps behing.

  627. tHe kiD fRanKiE Says:

    Sup muthafuckas?!?
    U niggas’ll argue anything I swear. Shit tryna catch up is hard as fuck(n)

    Anway….
    Wiz>>>Jay Z
    Spitta>>>B I G
    cBc

  628. Captain Planet Says:

    The simple fact that

    Jay Z can be on the cover of a national publicated magazine with Warren Buffet, and have lunch with crackas and then do coke rap and no one question is authenticity or street cred should tell you this nigga is the greatest example of how to balance both worlds

    there shouldnt even be a discussion

    Hov can fucking be with Mayor Bloomberg and Obama on Monday and Tuesday Drop a song filled with Coke Rap and every nigga in every inner city of America will be bumpin that shit

    He has the game figured out to a T

    why are we still discussing he supremacy

    that shit is not a question

    ^^^

    Gems.

  629. Remixznflow Says:

    whaddup 007…

  630. SPITGAME Says:

    Hes embarassed by his past, hes tryng to change, he wants to be will smith
    ^^^
    Trying to change yourself for the better = trying to be Will Smith

    Will Smith invented changing yourself for the better

    #WillSmithFacts

    LMAO

  631. Captain Planet Says:

    Hes embarassed by his past, hes tryng to change, he wants to be will smith
    ^^^
    Trying to change yourself for the better = trying to be Will Smith

    Will Smith invented changing yourself for the better

    #WillSmithFacts

    LMAO

    ^^^

    Ha!

  632. SPITGAME Says:

    LeRoy Green Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    I like the Celtics but KG deserved that elbow to the head today.

    You punch a man in the balls and karma comes back around FAST. God dont like ugly
    ^^
    Fuckin right…

  633. Cypher Says:

    Will Smith is one of a handful of niggas over there, with a wife more muscular than Derrick Rose (nh). You do the math.

    ^
    Nigga the shit aint adding up.. so Jada does a couple pushups .. your point.
    Plenty of bitches are in shape.

    BUt once again what does this have to do with the Original statement?

    Hell i could say Jay is gay cause he aint got no kids.. that has no weight on the discussion tho

  634. tHe kiD fRanKiE Says:

    Last Train to Paris makes me really sad
    #fag

    This nigga poured his/my soul on this cd

  635. sealsaa Says:

    Cypher Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
    She’s his cover. Not all broads would marry a gay man. She gets money and exposure. He gets a muscular cover story. You guys can’t see what’s right in front of you. Dudes homo. How many niggas you see in Scientology? He’s there for a reason. Trying to cure his “disease”, they got rods for that shit or something.

    ^
    smh.. no you just spouting random shit with no proof.
    ====================

    Basically

  636. SPITGAME Says:

    *Shout out Robert “007” Beck*

    Whaddup My G….

  637. Cypher Says:

    It was common knowlege, but seeing him committed to the puzzle factory did my hater heart good.

    ^
    I always knew he was retarded.. my only problem is when that nigga got his face sponsored by Haagan Das

  638. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # F YOU PAY ME! Says:
    January 30th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    The simple fact that

    Jay Z can be on the cover of a national publicated magazine with Warren Buffet, and have lunch with crackas and then do coke rap and no one question is authenticity or street cred should tell you this nigga is the greatest example of how to balance both worlds

    there shouldnt even be a discussion

    Hov can fucking be with Mayor Bloomberg and Obama on Monday and Tuesday Drop a song filled with Coke Rap and every nigga in every inner city of America will be bumpin that shit

    He has the game figured out to a T

    why are we still discussing he supremacy

    that shit is not a question
    ———————————————–

    new post

  639. SPITGAME Says:

    Tatyanna Ali >>>

  640. verses Says:

    He has the game figured out to a T

    why are we still discussing he supremacy

    that shit is not a question

    ^^^^^^^^

    This is all true.

    What is also true is that makin fun of him lookin like a Camel (none) and that he is Illuminati will never get old.

    Im a hate. Thats what I do. Its fun.

    Carry on.

  641. F YOU PAY ME! Says:

    I feel bad for all wiz khalifa stans

    you do realize Kush & OJ will be the best thing he ever drops right?

    Kush & OJ is to Wiz Khalifa

    what Precious is to that fat bitch

    It is his Height

    He drops “Rolling Papers” then what?

    come on cuz

    seriously

    Spitta 10000 better than Wiz

    Spitta can drop 3 albums in a year and people still anticpate his shit

    spitta does weed primary but kicks other shit, fly muscle car rap etc

    wiz does weed rap primarily and doesnt nothing else but laugh..it is dope..but will get old

    drake is a bitch

    all these soft ass rappers will die fast

    while HOV will remain

    that nigga is untouchable

    he is so untouchable that simple minded niggas cant fathom how he got to such a level and write it off by saying “hes in the Illuminati”

    There is no argument

    even niggas that Hate jay-z deep down inside admire him

    these are facts

    the average dumb fuck cant fathom how he is so untouchable that they say his marriage is a business arrangement

  642. sealsaa Says:

    Cypher Says:

    January 30th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    Will Smith is one of a handful of niggas over there, with a wife more muscular than Derrick Rose (nh). You do the math.

    ^
    Nigga the shit aint adding up.. so Jada does a couple pushups .. your point.
    Plenty of bitches are in shape.

    BUt once again what does this have to do with the Original statement?

    Hell i could say Jay is gay cause he aint got no kids.. that has no weight on the discussion tho
    ===========================

    Speaking of DL nigga’s, didn’t Camel used to be roomates with Larry Johnson? 30 something millionare sharing a place with another nigga? The fuck was that about? And didn’t LJ used to model for Roca-wear? Hmmm…

  643. Cypher Says:

    Last Train to Paris makes me really sad
    #fag

    This nigga poured his/my soul on this cd

    ^
    I listend to a stream of the album.. i really wasnt impressed, honestly the album would have been better with out diddy… and the two background singers playing the front

  644. Black Brokaw Says:

    Niggas still debating JayZ…..

  645. Cypher Says:

    Lmao.. the Jay stans are going into overdrive, new post please

  646. tHe kiD fRanKiE Says:

    Cyph man LtTP is the best album I’ve heard in years. Very cohesive ill lyrics etc. There one weak track imo maybe 2.
    LTTP>MBDTF
    I’m listenin to them both right now

    Just my opinion I’m not tryna go to war over em I love both albums
    #EmoRap

  647. Cashmere Cavalli aka Snowbunny Sampson Says:

    DIDNT JAY-Z JUST RELEASE A BOOK SAYING THAT THE BITCH IN “99 PROBLEMS” WAS ABOUT A DOG AND NOT A FEMALE???
    ===============================
    he’s been trying to clean up his past to go along his new fame

    it was sad seeing him back peddle in an interview when they revealed the lyrics to Big Pimpin in a swimming pool….

    like he doesn’t know the person who wrote those bars

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