Drake’s Thank Me Later: The Numbers Are In
1 DRAKE YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 462,989*
So Drake didn’t sell a billion copies of Thank Me Later huh. I can’t say I’m all that surprised. I figured he’d probably do a respectable 500-600K, but I was also prepared for him to do something completely ridiculous like 2 million. Over saturation can either work for you or against you and this seems to be a case of the latter. Not that I blame his handlers/Universal for flooding the market. That’s what your supposed to do with an artist that’s buzzing right? I suppose. I think there’s a balance that needs to be struck though. You don’t want people to walk into the record store and say “who the fuck is this guy”, but you also don’t want them thinking, “not this fucking guy again”.
Hype is a helluva drug. It clouds the judgement of rappers, fans and critics alike. It can also hurt just as much as it can help, if not more. If Drake wasn’t so over hyped, this 462K he did would seem like an epic debut. But with expectations what they were, anything short of a million first week will be viewed by many as a failure. Which is completely absurd. To put things in perspective, Jay-Z, arguably the most famous rapper living, did 475K his first week out with Blueprint 3. And you’re out of your mind if you think this Drake album isn’t eventually going platinum.
I like Thank Me later. It’s cool. It could’ve been way better though. I liked it more after one listen than I did So Far Gone after one listen. One of my NMC brethren who shall remain nameless, says he can’t get through TML without falling asleep. Ha ha. That’s how I felt about SFG, but (most of it) grew on me. It was mostly all the singing that turned me off. TML is really just a more polished version of SFG, but for whatever reason the singing doesn’t bug me as much this time around. Maybe it was all of that polish.
So what does all of this mean for the music industry? Probably nothing except that it’s just as hard to sell records as it was last year and the year before, and that the Carter 3 numbers were an anomaly. I’m sure there are some valuable lessons to be learned here, I’m just not quite sure what they are yet. Drake was supposed to be the guy who would usher in a new era of rap artists. He’s really one of the first artists to enjoy a rabid stan-base both on and offline. He’s got bars and he appeals to the ladies and the TRL crowd. He’s relatively “safe”. He’s supposed to be putting up NSYNC numbers right? He was supposed to be the rap industry savior that would introduce a new model and rewrite the rules of success. but that’s the thing about selling records for a living though, it’s a fucking crap shoot if there ever was one.
I’ll stick to blogging (for now).
You know what’s crazy though? I bet you some dude with half of the backing and co-signs of Drake will come out in the next couple of years and crush everybody. He’s probably out there somewhere right now quietly putting out mixtapes or leaking songs on the Internet. Isn’t that how it always works? It’s always the sleepers who come back and blow up. Who could’ve ever guessed that the skinny dude warming up crowds for Kane would turn into the Jay-Z we know today. Who ever thought Curtis would overcome all of the obstacles life threw at him to accomplish what he has? I guess that’s what keeps all of you aspiring rappers going.
(*these #’s are from HitsDailyDouble, and they’ve been known to be off by a few thousand, so that number may change by tonight when Soundscan reports)
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Port Of Miami was dope.
^
Word to White House, Cross That Line, Street Life, I’m a G, It Ain’t a Problem, Its My Time…etc.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
JihaD Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
*daps Verses*
@ Kev,
I had a pretty lengthy answer for you, backed up by facts and whatnot, but apparently Ashmi’s shitty website decided it didn’t deserve to be posted. To answer your question about which label had the best run:
1. No Limit
2. Roc-A-Fella
3. Cash Money (past and current)
Percy was able to get platinum plaques outta himself, Corey, and Silkk (while crossing that nigga over, word to that Mya shit), Mystikal, etc, while getting gold ones outta such luminaries as Mr. Serv-On, Romeo, Fiend, Soulja Slim, Young Bleed, etc. Plus, Percy gotta get his credit for putting together the model for that MCEO shit, plus diverisfying his portfolio with the movies/soundtracks/shoes/clothing/toys/etc. Plus, give Percy credit for somehow being able to release EVERY artist’s project he ever signed… Ask O & Sparks, Da Rahnjaz, Diamonds in Da Ruff, Peedi Crakk, or such Cash Money artists as Lac & Stone, Mikkey Halsted, TQ, Strings, etc.
JihaD
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Eskay I don’t know man…SFG was that shit. SFG had probably the same amount of slow jams that TML has and honestly some were better than those found on TML. With that said TML is still a dope cd.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
good write up eskay
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
# mcb Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
# kevfrescura de talco Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 pm
macca…
i got you in there, same fashion. holla. i’ll take that bar round this time too. word.
^^^
Definitely man, shit since i owe you 1 already, you might get 2.
Good looks, for real, much appreciated. I’ll bring my shitty video camera too to see if i can get some dec footage of your dudes performing, nh.
i gotta upload the last one still…
alright, back to the books, gettin pass this shit, get paid, etc…
*studies, dreaming of success*
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
______________________________________________who Gives a Shit. corny still.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Who could’ve ever guessed that the skinny dude warming up crowds for with Kane would turn into the Jay-Z
^
ahem
edit needed
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Kanye doing 450k first week without tons of promotional buildup and nothing but singing on 808s is still the most impressive thing i’ve seen in recent memory.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
the numbers cant really be accurately analyzed until some established hip hop artist drops an album, for comparison purposes. Maybe that’s Em, this week? We’ll see.
What can be said is, if Best I Ever Had had dropped as the first single..
This shit would have sold outrageous numbers.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
smh relapse climb to #7 on billboard, yet tml hasn’t made a “blip” on either neilson or billboard.
word 460K? just STOP LYING yo DAMN!
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
id like reiterate my love for BLOWOUT COMB by Digable Planets
it is a PERFECT album.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
AmpGeez aka Your Mother’s “Friend” Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Why sign an artist and offer little to zero support?
Hustling backwards.
Look at Fif. He put enough into Banks & Yayo (Buck too) that he can put energy into getting them hot so when he cools he can ride their wave back to hotness….if that makes any sense at all.
^^^
This. 50 blew up, then made sure each artist (Jayeceon, Chris, Marvin, and David) could sell records. In a lot of ways, he fucked up his own career by making sure they all went platinum (or eventually platinum in Marv’s case). If he would have done them niggas Camel style, he would have took their best songs ala “can I get a,” “Put ya hands up,” and “Give It to Me,” then tell them its a “good look.”
JihaD
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
….Drop’d the album Strictly Business & u thought it would fold, 30 days later, the LP went gold….
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
All I know is if you have a PENIS, you did not buy that album!!!!!
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Who could’ve ever guessed that the skinny dude warming up crowds for with Kane would turn into the Jay-Z
^^
the realist typed “for,” the stan typed “with”
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
99% of his fans wear high heels
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Cole is ok but his fanbase is weak and don’t seem to be a lot of ppl saying that dude really got next. I think dude should get with dudes like mos, spitta, JE, stalley nd the dudes they collab with. Seems like the crowd he belongs in.
Oh damn Aubrey sold less than what I thought.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
“He was supposed to be the rap industry savior…”
He was? Says who? I dunno man, I think 450K+ is phenomenal for an opening debut. He should be counting his blessings – and so should the label.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Port of Miami was classic
^
word…..a lot of honesty spat in those bars…..RAWSE was like the precursor to Barack on that joint…..word to White House…..
BAWSE
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
DRAKE YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 462,989
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#whogivesafidduck?
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
” That’s how I felt about SFG, but (most of it) grew on me. ”
I advise you to take the it of the parentheses, sk. It’d make the sentence more cohesive.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Well, it has happened. A Jew is running the rap game.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Hype is a helluva drug. It clouds the judgement of rappers, fans and critics alike.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BONG
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Yo eskay…
STFU B
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Yo eskay…
STFU B
^rofl
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
AmpGeez aka Your Mother’s “Friend” Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Why sign an artist and offer little to zero support?
Hustling backwards.
Look at Fif. He put enough into Banks & Yayo (Buck too) that he can put energy into getting them hot so when he cools he can ride their wave back to hotness….if that makes any sense at all.
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I see what you’re saying, but a big part of 50’s self marketing was beefing with other dudes. So the options of collaborating with guys outside of the Aftermath Stable wasn’t really there for him even if he wanted to.
As for building up stars to ride off when you cool, whether he tried or not Jay had more success with that than 50. Kanye is singlehandedly maintaining his artistic credibility while he make cheesy hits that get surprisingly popular.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Plus, Percy gotta get his credit for putting together the model for that MCEO shit, plus diverisfying his portfolio with the movies/soundtracks/shoes/clothing/toys/etc. Plus, give Percy credit for somehow being able to release EVERY artist’s project he ever signed
^
yea jihad, but you could use that regions consumers and compare their loyalty to the whole UK.
in the east coast that support doesn’t exists like that. this side of things is ‘majors first’ cause locally you won’t be influential enough when throwin ’em bones.
i’ont take naan away from the southern bidness models, but Pac had to die for that to take traction.
sorry nahki.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
dos equis Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
99% of his fans wear high heels
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*chuckles*
shots fired at nation
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Kanye doing 450k first week without tons of promotional buildup and nothing but singing on 808s is still the most impressive thing i’ve seen in recent memory.
^
I remember Kanye debuted the Love Lockdown joint on Ellen. That’s a lot of promotion right there. Not to mention all those banners he had around Times Square.
maxpreme.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/kaws-kanye-west-808s-heartbreak-billboard-1.jpg
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
# Beave Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Well, it has happened. A Jew is running the rap game.
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Word, I told those 80s rappers to stop letting Rick Rubin do their beats, but no one listened. And now look, it’s happened.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Sade wins. Her doing an album after 10 years and selling over 500k is impressive.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
it’s disgusting, late 2008 eskay couldn’t stand drake now he’s a post whore for the complex media network spreading propaganda and lies…
eskay how does it feel to be an industry “gloryhole”? not knowing who cock goes in your mouth for the month?
smh
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Word, I told those 80s rappers to stop letting Rick Rubin do their beats, but no one listened. And now look, it’s happened.
^lmao
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
” Sade wins. Her doing an album after 10 years and selling over 500k is impressive. ”
Word …
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
wait so a guy from canada who was in a wheelchair on a show on nickelodeon didnt have any content or life experience to use to conect with people ? and a bunch of sheep went and bought a record because tv told them he was the new face of hip hop aka the guy who gave justin bieber a shout in his liner notes ??? regardless those numbers in this climate is a win but all the payola to let aubreys post ride all night on na might put them in the red
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Niggaz talk about fif was based on beef..he got shot/stabbed by rappers..wtf he posed to do? He crushed every problem as soon as it came up after that. A nigga don’t need to get shot more than once to learn not to fuck with niggaz. They was really trynna kill the kid.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I gave Game hits
he told me to suck his dick
started screamin wess side
and Dre ain’t say shit
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
DIPSET HURRY UP! DIPSET HURRY THE FUCK UP! REAL NIGGAS IS DYING OUT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Good analysis.
I still say SFG was Wack and TML would be great without the singing.
and I like singing… just not Drake singing.
and he is still def a record label creation (Kanye + Wayne = $$$) but the album is decent IMO. Maybe the part that he bit from Ye. LOL
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Fifty is like 1 for 9 in rap battles IMO. That’s me though.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
I think the numbers are REALLY good considering he didn’t have a lead single like BIEH…or even like Successful…..or Money to Blow..or Every Girl…damn Drake what happened?! lol
I still supported thou. But the stannette in me hates to admit that SFG kinda exceeds TML by a lot.
I look forward to his next album though.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
# Beave Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Well, it has happened. A Jew is running the rap game.
^^^^
woah woah waoh, he;s only half Jewish.
*shout out to MC Serch, majority of the Beastie Boys…*
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
And you’re out of your mind if you think this Drake album isn’t eventually going platinum.
^
nah. even if you don’t like a male who sings, and you think like this, AAAND you listento R&B w/a chic, w/e chic,
aubrey will go plat next week.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
it’s disgusting, late 2008 eskay couldn’t stand
drake now he’s a post whore for the complex
media network spreading propaganda and lies…
eskay how does it feel to be an industry
“ gloryhole”? not knowing who cock goes in your
mouth for the month?
smh
^
Damn casket castrating ya boy…..he going in (yes homo)…..
*ducks*
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
>>edit needed
thanks. u faggots talking shit can blow dick.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
# casket face Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
it’s disgusting, late 2008 eskay couldn’t stand drake now he’s a post whore for the complex media network spreading propaganda and lies…
eskay how does it feel to be an industry “gloryhole”? not knowing who cock goes in your mouth for the month?
smh
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Holy crap…eskay just got owned.
I was gonna make a comment but what’s the point?
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Now we just eat of him
And when I talk to Em
a smile comes on his face
he tells me this the case
enemies stay enemiesss
but friends they changeee
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Whoppie goldbergs and birdmans baby and the white girl Mic snatcher run the rap game not a Jew.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
You don’t want people to walk into the record store and say “who the fuck is this guy”, but you also don’t want them thinking, “not this fucking guy again”.
^ word
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
im 23 with a money tree
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
>>late 2008 eskay couldn’t stand drake
not gonna respond to this fuckhead, except to say that’s a lie. cuz I know people read nonsense and believe it. link to me ever saying I couldn’t stand Drake or eat dog shit.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Rap is dying, it has already peaked and is going down. Drake took too long with this, shit died out. Also records dont sell cuz of blogs and torrents. mix that all up and thats why drake “only” did this.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
why? Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
….I think dude should get with dudes like mos, spitta, JE, stalley nd the dudes they collab with. Seems like the crowd he belongs in.
^^^
This. That song he did with Mos JE and Talib with Hi-Tek on the beat was nice.
Helps show people he can chop it up with the big timers (no Birdman).
I like J Cole, think he couild really be sick. Hope he does that album up or something. Gotta keep going.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
eskay couldn’t stand drake now he’s a post whore for the complex media network spreading propaganda and lies
^
yeah but that news is YEARS old. aint his fault these hip-hop purist commenters aint Heinz.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
FUN FACT:Wayne did 400k second week. And 3rd.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
aubrey will go plat next week.
^
Name 1 album that has sold more the second week than it did the first week. I’ll wait.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
BISD > TML
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
” FUN FACT:Wayne did 400k second week. And 3rd. ”
Damn.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Fifty singing > Jewwannaman singins
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
my 15 minutes started an hour ago
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
that shit that make your soul burn…..slooooooow……
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
link to me ever saying I couldn’t stand Drake or eat dog shit.
^
you were on ya twit tellin a nahmenter that the reason drake lives on nah is cause nation loves him…..
public record, eskay.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Well Mr. Drake is going to get some nice chunk of change out of this. Will his videos become more arrogant and flashy? Or will he still be playing the sweet heart role telling everybody on how he gets played by women?
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
eskay would take a Wendy’s gift card that was wedged between Drake’s asscheeks.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
there smoke in the air before, that was me clearin’ it
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
# dos equis Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
BISD > TML
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They were both quite soulless as far as how they approached their subject matter.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
my dad called me up knowin that i still listen
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Name 1 album that has sold more the second week than it did the first week. I’ll wait.
^
whose saying more per say. i’m saying by day 14 of retail TML it will be plat.
y’all don’t follow jew-nomics in hip-hop? lol
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
BISD > TML
^
We already have a Ross stan here. We don’t need a 50 stan.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
he is not the face of rap to people who
A) dont focus on the radio for their source of music. And i dont mean a legit station, I mean the one that plays 6 songs an hour, and each song twice in that 60 min.
B)know what he is, and his style.
C) try on their own to evaluate artists.
lets all relax, its not like Nas just came out wiht a club BAMMA style album or Rakim released a yodel track, its just Aubrey. more artists may (i really dont care/know) try to be like him, and some were before he was around, but you don’t think that violent, that hard hitting or that drug rap wont try to take the light away, act as a rebellion if the singing/shitty bars phase took over.
im typing way too much, back to work
SMH@myself.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
land….c’mon. Now you’re just quoting random lines, not the actual good ones [they’re mostly on his earlier stuff anyway]
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
>>you were on ya twit tellin a nahmenter that the reason drake lives on nah is cause nation loves him
link or go fuck your own mother. what I probably said was that nation and Dre are the Drake fans around here and do the majority of the posts which is true.
and yeah guys, somebody paid me to say that dude was surrounded by too much hype and the album was ok.
cuz you know, if you don’t come out and say something straight up sucks, you must be taking payola.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
world series attitude, champagne bottle life
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I have to counterbalance my hate for today’s hip pop music with the fact that most of the youth today is soft also..so when you take that into effect I can see why Drake did those numbers.
A Drake album
..Intro..
I used to be poor..now I got money..
I once kissed Rihanna..
now I got money and hurts that my closest friends don’t
Outro.
Nigga aint spit once useful lyric,,all drake shit can only be rerapped to females. Not one of his songs give (straight niggaz) the “ooooh you heard that” face.
I cant fuck with that babyshit.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Did Nation get the day off or somethin? Eskay’s ode to Drake just doesn’t feel right.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
# Hopp Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
” FUN FACT:Wayne did 400k second week. And 3rd. ”
Damn.
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Seriously.
I know Wayne’s a major game changer in hip hop just from how swift, and extreme his rise to the top was, but I STILL don’t think I get it entirely. And I’m a fan. Everything aligned I guess.
He was THAT much bigger than the next 4 biggest rappers.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
land….c’mon. Now you’re just quoting random lines, not the actual good ones [they’re mostly on his earlier stuff anyway]
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shhhh… be quiet nigga …
im listening to TML right now and im quoting lines from that…
*BACK TO BUSINESS*
y-YOU could thank me now, and oh my goodness you welcome, you welcome
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Aggressive content > Aggregate content
yea..they can’t fuck wit ya boy
*waves the heat to eat….waves his right to speak*
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I don’t know, it sort of seems like Drake was marketed as being likeable for just about everyone (Blacks, Jews, girls, tv fans, r & b people) and it backfired.
There was too much rapping for the girls, too much singing for the dudes and a whole lot of neglect as far as his Jewish heritage was concerned (except for in interviews. )
Wayne, comparatively, is a rappin’ ass goon/stoner/lunatic-hybrid and came out and killed. Yeah, he had more albums to build up to it all, but he also only had to drop ‘Lollipop’ instead of two sub-par singles, that couldn’t match up to his mixtape stuff.
White people, old folks, everyone was down because he wasn’t shoved down their throats (PAUSE) as someone who they should/could relate to. Same goes for Kanye & Hov.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
cuz you know, if you don’t come out and say something straight up sucks, you must be taking payola.
^^^
really ??? cause the nahbar and your defensiveness about the subject . . .
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
# A Chick Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Did Nation get the day off or somethin? Eskay’s ode to Drake just doesn’t feel right.
^^eskay’s a closet Jew
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
link or go fuck your own mother. what I probably said was
^
WHY I GOTTA FUCK MY MOM ESK?
nicca, you seldom respond to me. thas how i know ya male booby is hurt.
thas a skrong ‘probably’ from the actual blog owner.
STFU and get that NAH-B-Q poppin now that i got ya attention.
everything else you say is just general knowledge a mouse click away.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
A Drake album
..Intro..
I used to be poor..now I got money..
I once kissed Rihanna..
now I got money and hurts that my closest friends don’t
Outro.
^^
lmao
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
that make me wish i had a little less mileage on me
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
dos equis
I agree.
I don’t mind stupid ignorant shit if im in the mood for it, know what it is. He literally contradicts himself song to song, I know this is not unusual for a rapper to be like “I love fucking everyone” one song then “i love my girl, dont need anyone else” the next but the themes of the songs too. and the fact that he really doesnt have any rewindable lyrics, and no real message in the majorit yof the album other than, im famous and its awesome, im famous and its tough, and i like women.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
****PLUS: you can smell the bitchassness in Drizzy from Pluto****
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Hey What’s up??
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
non musical niggas is over-analyzing the musical niggas
LMAO
imagine that
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
snatching bitches top of the building…
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
@getmurked..Wayne is believable in all the shit he raps about….Would Wayne write a “she broke my heart” song about some bitch he kissed once in the club?
Drake’s whole aura is curtains..see thru.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Get Murked Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Wayne, comparatively, is a rappin’ ass goon/stoner/lunatic-hybrid and came out and killed. Yeah, he had more albums to build up to it all, but he also only had to drop ‘Lollipop’ instead of two sub-par singles, that couldn’t match up to his mixtape stuff.
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Lollipop was a big part of Wayne`s success, but you have to remember he had a lot of mixtapes out too, and they also had his best stuff.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Get Murked Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
****PLUS: you can smell the bitchassness in Drizzy from Pluto****
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stop sniffing niggas
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
I wish Esk WOULD take payola and layoff these ads from hell.
I gotta update my Adobe and Javascript just to run this damn site on my computer.
And I’m still having nightmares from the Denzel automatic loading movie clip.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Why’s my comment still awaiting moderation??
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
you know you know how the story go
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
@getmurked..Wayne is believable in all the shit he raps about….Would Wayne write a “she broke my heart” song about some bitch he kissed once in the club?
Drake’s whole aura is curtains..see thru.
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@dos Exactly! I believe some old nigga once said: “He’s alright/but he’s not real”
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
# Mook Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
aubrey will go plat next week.
^
Name 1 album that has sold more the second week than it did the first week. I’ll wait.
_________________________
Illmatic
….pick your swag up when no one is lookin’ b, i won’t tell
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
RJ Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Why’s my comment still awaiting moderation??
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cause you need a new, more distinct screen name, Scrappy …
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
thas how i know ya male booby is hurt.
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ROFL…oh man.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Drake’s whole aura is meat curtains..
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Wayne, comparatively, is a rappin’ ass goon/stoner/lunatic-hybrid and came out and killed. Yeah, he had more albums to build up to it all, but he also only had to drop ‘Lollipop’ instead of two sub-par singles, that couldn’t match up to his mixtape stuff.
^^^Wayne be talking that pull ya panties to the side shit to the bitches..Drake want a bitch to take off her clothes so he can fold them.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
as a Jewish person, whos talked to other Jews who do like Drake,
half of them didnt know he was Jewish at first, but guess how the other half got to like him…
but really, Jewish people are cheap. ill be real, i try to do the opposite (see Chappelle Show stereotype skit), but im saying Jewish guys prob arent buying it, but those girls sure are. or the guys are buying it for them.
if he started putting Jewish stuff in his music, it would be realllly strange. i havent read all his interviews, because thats ridiculous, but he doesn’t strike me as the J that goes to temple, knows about teh customs, or even knows how to spell yarmulke (pron: yamuka). I have no problem with any of that, but including Jewish shit and forcing it on a song would be weird. I mean Nas has some, Jay Elec, etc… without being Jewish, but with Drake it would just seem like more BS (like the content of TML).
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Wayne has a MUCH more versatile style than Drake, so over-saturation didn`t hurt him as much. Drake has one flow, one style of punchlines.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
A Chick Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
I wish Esk WOULD take payola and layoff these ads from hell.
I gotta update my Adobe and Javascript just to run this damn site on my computer.
And I’m still having nightmares from the Denzel automatic loading movie clip
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STFU and get back in your stable bitch
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
I’ll stick to blogging (for now).
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c’mon esk this ya grift for life.
you in ya 30S’ NICCA! jus like me! if this ya lane in hip-hop own it dude. smh.
you done graff’d, shoveled shit for the industry and elsewhere, now you tryna make it seem like you have other options in hip-hop?
LMFAO!
thas why steve stoute laugh at puff, nas, and hov and still in knee deep(n) in this.
keep romanticizin’….loooool
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
A Chick Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
I wish Esk WOULD take payola and layoff these ads from hell.
I gotta update my Adobe and Javascript just to run this damn site on my computer.
And I’m still having nightmares from the Denzel automatic loading movie clip
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STFU and get back in your stable bitch
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So far gone…
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Lollipop was a big part of Wayne`s success, but you have to remember he had a lot of mixtapes out too, and they also had his best stuff.
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@ RNC: Yes he did, but the mixtape stuff didn’t overshadow the popularity of his single and album. People weren’t disappointed in his album and saying it should be more like his mixtapes. They were happy he made an album that was semi-coherent.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Wayne has a MUCH more versatile style than Drake
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Yep. I just got done listening to Miss Me, Uptown, and Ignant Shit. Wayne outshines Drake on each of those tracks.
Wayne = Verbal Diarrhea
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
AmpGeez aka Your Mother’s “Friend” Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Why sign an artist and offer little to zero support?
Hustling backwards.
Look at Fif. He put enough into Banks & Yayo (Buck too) that he can put energy into getting them hot so when he cools he can ride their wave back to hotness….if that makes any sense at all.
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I see what you’re saying, but a big part of 50’s self marketing was beefing with other dudes. So the options of collaborating with guys outside of the Aftermath Stable wasn’t really there for him even if he wanted to.
As for building up stars to ride off when you cool, whether he tried or not Jay had more success with that than 50. Kanye is singlehandedly maintaining his artistic credibility while he make cheesy hits that get surprisingly popular.
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But Camel didn’t make Kanye hot, Kanye came into the game at the right time as an alternative to the bling/hardcore rap, and he needs to pray to the rhyme book El Che left in Chi everyday for Jesus Walks.
JihaD
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Wayne be talking that pull ya panties to the side shit to the bitches..Drake want a bitch to take off her clothes so he can fold them.
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*DEAD*
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
# dos equis Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
^^^Wayne be talking that pull ya panties to the side shit to the bitches..Drake want a bitch to take off her clothes so he can fold them.
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he’s is to hookers what barrack was to blacks pre-election
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
“Unstoppable” too.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Sade wins. Her doing an album after 10 years and selling over 500k is impressive.
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and i bet she wont co-sign this dude like she did Raekwon and this nigga singin! lol
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
he’s is to hookers what barrack was to blacks pre-election
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sounds like you were working on your craft on your hiatus
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Those numbers exceeded my exspectations. I thought he’d do around 250,000. And Im usually Good money. I think Find Your Love grew on people. I think that song did more for him than Over.
Click the Name For Music.
Im almost done with Average Aint Me pt. 2
I dont think theres ever been anybody to have 4 distinct vocal tones and present them on one project. If someone like me busts the game would never be the same.
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I don’t know, it sort of seems like Drake was marketed as being likeable for just about everyone (Blacks, Jews, girls, tv fans, r & b people) and it backfired.
There was too much rapping for the girls, too much singing for the dudes and a whole lot of neglect as far as his Jewish heritage was concerned (except for in interviews. )
Wayne, comparatively, is a rappin’ ass goon/stoner/lunatic-hybrid and came out and killed. Yeah, he had more albums to build up to it all, but he also only had to drop ‘Lollipop’ instead of two sub-par singles, that couldn’t match up to his mixtape stuff.
White people, old folks, everyone was down because he wasn’t shoved down their throats (PAUSE) as someone who they should/could relate to. Same goes for Kanye & Hov.
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Get Murked saying the truth
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
RNC = A Chick
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
i just saw hip-hop hitch hiking…
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 pm
good shit eskay but somehow some way jay-z gets mentioned lol but seriously if you took the strongest songs from SFG AND TML and combined them it would be a amazing debut. TML is a good album but like i mentioned in another pot atleast for now after “miss me” i don’t listen to anything else
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Sittin in someones car right now and they got the drake album playin in the background I thought it was Sade…whoa what’s goin on with hip-hop?
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my mans just posted this on FB lol
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Wayne has a MUCH more versatile style than Drake, so over-saturation didn`t hurt him as much. Drake has one flow, one style of punchlines
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i can see this point. lets be real though, drake is a talented dude but his whole steez is either rap like wayne or make songs like kanye. i mean, wouldn’t most people just logically hold out until either of those two guys drop their next album instead of settling for someone imitating them?
it’s like, i could watch kobe ball but if jordan is still killing shit on the bulls, going to watch mj play has top priority.
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
unfortunetly
So Far Gone > Thank Me Later
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Fuck this record, and fuck Drake.
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
RECOVERY > Drake
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Everyone keeps talking how wayne came thru and smashed the game after dropping CArter 3, but like right now how niggas hatin on drake, ALOT of people were hating on Wayne’s album… (It aint better than Dedication 2 though!) (Wayne ain’t spttin’ like he used too) (This album is all over the place…) and so on, and so on. Now Carter 3 was that hot shit? It was good, dont get me wrong, but don’t act like half of ya’ll weren’t hating on him and lollipop then, fuck outta..
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 pm
That is still more than Eminem will sell
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Drake almost went Gold his first week out. The album was available in it’s entirety for two weeks before the release date. That being said, So Far Gone crushes Thank Me Later. Thank Me Later is still a solid debut album. One has to question why the majority of the album (before the last 8 songs leaked) was available before the album dropped. These leaks with all the features weren’t necessary to feed the hypebeast and the album would have sold a lot more if the half the album wasn’t out last month. Whoever is in charge of marketing the album should slap themselves two times. I had the bootleg but I copped 2 copies to support Mr. Graham.
AltDog
“Tuesdays used to matter no the only thing that happens is you, you, and you say shit I been had that…”
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
*Correction*
“Tuesdays used to matter now the only thing that happens is you, you, and you say shit I been had that…”
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
appreciate eskay adding his 2 cents…
I actually bought the album and supported the kid…
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
i dont understand y ppl waste time talmbout album sales, that shit is out the window, im willin to bet outta Drakes 460k, 325 of it was bitches…that prob only bought it for 2 songs
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
check my other comments I told you niggas this Canuck would go triple plywood
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
DRAKE DID OVER A MILLION IN CANADA!
Platinum in Canada in a week! Dont hate.. almost gold in a week aint bad in the US..
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
“Tuesdays used to matter now the only thing that happens is you, you, and you say shit I been had that…”
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wale?
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Everyone keeps talking how wayne came thru and smashed the game after dropping CArter 3, but like right now how niggas hatin on drake, ALOT of people were hating on Wayne’s album… (It aint better than Dedication 2 though!) (Wayne ain’t spttin’ like he used too) (This album is all over the place…) and so on, and so on. Now Carter 3 was that hot shit? It was good, dont get me wrong, but don’t act like half of ya’ll weren’t hating on him and lollipop then, fuck outta..
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This
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
That is still more than Eminem will sell
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You’re not serious, right?
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Yessir,
Drake went Gold in Canada. 40K. 80K is Platinum in Canada.
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Bigspitgame (Pause / no shots),
Wale – The Perfect Plan – The Mixtape About Nothing
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 pm
id like reiterate my love for BLOWOUT COMB by Digable Planets
it is a PERFECT album
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reachin’ is better.
drake’s people waited too long to put tml out.
had they put out this tape last winter, shit would have done at least 250k more easy.
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 pm
DRAKE DID OVER A MILLION IN CANADA!
Platinum in Canada in a week! Dont hate.. almost gold in a week aint bad in the US..
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Platinum in Canada is like 100K. Do the knowledge.
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Bigspitgame (Pause / no shots),
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no shots taking but allow me to clarify… Ima big nigga ( *sigh*, Pause)… And my moniker is SPITGAME… I spit game cuz baby I can’t talk it… And I rap circles around these new urkels…So no homo, none, pause and all that shit but there’s no need cuz ain’t nuttin homo bout me whatsoever… I will G the panties off a lotta y’all mommas/sisters/aunts/ and/ or grammas if they look like Pam Grier circa 5 yrs ago… All Hetero
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Taken>taking
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 pm
yo
there should be more pieces like this on rap for the week
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Nice commentary on the situation here. I personally was dissapointed, if only because I’m sure that had this been released at the end of march (it’s original date), it would have sold at least 700,000 in its first week. Drake is still commercially hot, but he’s definately cooled off since then.
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
The leftovers from Thank Me Later…ahem…You Know You Know & Greatness are better than the Album…and i’m talking Beat wise…verses were ehhh….Drake falled short big time…..
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
“Find Solace in the nights embrace/ Life’s movin at a lightning pace, yeah/ sweet success why yes I’d like a taste/ a nigga hungry if you put that food in frun’me I will wipe the plate/ clean, I mean who wouldn’t wanna slice a steak/ to replace whatever we pullin out this micro-wave/ Transcending time and space/ When they ask me how I’m doin, tell him God Is Great/ The just shall live by his faith/ now what you gittin me for fathers day huh?/ Rather Fly Ma don’t mind the cape/ Hold on tight momma while I Take/ you anywhere in all your wildest dreams while you wide awake/ Can you dig it is you tryn escape?/ She Said U Gotta Ask?, I know that’s right baby my mistake/ Mind body soul mine ta take/ offered to cook for me said it’s so many dishes I can Make/ I said I’m fresh from out the booth honey I just ate/ but no matter I could eat again/ put it next ta niggas beats I can squeeze it in/ can’t talk less you got upwards of a G ta spend/ what’s is this language that u speaking in? Huh/ The Memoirs where do we begin/ start the tape recorder, you might need a pen/ While lames was spending the evenin in/ I was 17 wit my team coppin ki’s in tens/ thousand dollar bottle spots in white tees n timbs/ Disrespecin the dress code how did he git in?/ no fake ID I wasn’t sneaking in/ The owners told me they was happy ta see me again/ but that was on account a all the biness we’d bring in/ Family like ours who needed friends?/ Fingers stickin from the kush no seed a stem/ Can you feel it baby breathe it in *deep breath*/ Don’t exhale yet keep it in/ Then blow shot guns to ya lil diva friends/ This is us we dont give a fuck who we offend/ Its just glimpse I see u peakin in, whas up/ somebody throw them fags a peace sign/ The real is back, the bullshit is at a decline/ Rap Game remind me of the Crack Game, spitting that Caine niggas Should be baggin these lines/ Saran wrap for the CD jacket design/ ima run it an Im jukin past ya D Line/ adjust ya lenses sir you lookin at a phenom/ All by myself here a nigga havin me time”
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
tml is gunna be on the charts for at least a year most of middle america isnt picking up albums the first week they drop…sfg did 73,000 first week n ended up gold…if they pick the right single after miss me hes gunna sell over 2 million
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 pm
jayz greatest hits gona do better than TML
June 23rd, 2010 at 2:08 am
they waited too long to drop the album. his buzz died down.. if they released it late 09 early 10 he wudv sold more..
June 23rd, 2010 at 2:19 am
I got Drake’s back, fuck y’all.
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 am
the singing is great it makes him more dynamic/access different markets. It makes it a record i can listen to with my family. Karoake is my fav track.
Horay for dynamic music! Gangsta/thug music is boring…
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:15 am
also, anyone notice that certain posts have no comments while others have hundreds? i guess it’s to protect perceptions of certain posts. ps i love nahright!
June 23rd, 2010 at 7:48 am
good write up, what drake did in 2010 and the whole buzz he has built is crazy. It may be the hype that drives me to make this statement but i think he has shifted the whole climate for talent in rap. Drake has almost made “being lyrical” cool. drake just made it very hard on himself by making Thank Me Later the way it is. He chose to debut as an artist vs. a rapper. And either way the album is going to do numbers…. Ryley Zane
June 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 am
and like someone mentioned before, the 5 or 6 songs that leaked really early including the jay-z features and jeezy features fucked with his sales.
June 23rd, 2010 at 2:10 pm
WOULDA SOLD A MILL IF NO TRACKS WERE LEAKED.
June 23rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
To me, Kanye has had one of the largest rises to stardom thus far. If there was anyone that I would have initially discounted as a successful rapper it’d probably be him.
Arguably, Kayne’s success has done more to usher in a new era of rap artists (for better or worse).