Pusha T Speaks On Jay-Z “Ill’in” Line

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Pusha T spoke to VIBE about the “Ill’in” bars (off Trap Or Die II) that got everybody talking.

VIBE: Judging from the response on the Internet, the one line from the song that plenty of people heard is, “Tell Hova don’t pass the crown so soon, Unless he got a crown for every writer in the room/There’s too many spirits on these ghostwritten tunes, So you can’t crown the heir until you séance the room.” Can you clarify exactly what you meant by that?

Pusha T: I actually wrote my verse [around the time] “D.O.A.” dropped. I just feel like there are a lot of new artists in the game that still have to prove themselves. You hear so much talk about who’s next and who’s up next and who’s the man and so on and so forth. In all fairness, I feel like Jay-Z is still relevant. He’s still the rapper. He’s the crown-holder right now. But, you know, he cosigns plenty of artists all the time, so I just wanted to tell him not to pass the crown too soon because we don’t know enough about these artists yet. We need to do checks on them first and see what they’re all about. Obviously, ghostwriting is a very big thing going on, too. So we gotta see who the man is behind all of these joints if that’s what’s going on.

Pusha downplays solo project talk and more @ VIBE.com.


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206 Responses to “Pusha T Speaks On Jay-Z “Ill’in” Line”

  1. oh4werd Says:

    That nigga Jada raps like he been writing to the same beat his whole career.

    ^^^

    lmao…this.

  2. London Bloke Says:

    Dre: Props to the Nah Right comment section for this

  3. hl Says:

    What conscience rapper hasn’t given Nas his props?

    ^Maybe I was being overzealous, but it always appeared to me that many of em didn’t really fuck with dude like that. I don’t know, maybe I’m just lookin’ too deep into it.

    Nah I was just asking cause I’ve heard Mos, Kweli, and Common all stan for Nas. Just cause they haven’t worked together doesn’t mean much. Only conscience dude that I’ve really heard shit on Nas is NY Oil.

  4. landlord Says:

    hl Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
    lol at zesty (nh)…Who made that shit up?

    ———–

    i first seen it at mediatakeout no homo… they was showing these gay looking Chris Bosh photos and calling that nigga out for “extreme zestiness”…

  5. D. Billz Says:

    # hl Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    What conscience rapper hasn’t given Nas his props?

    ^Maybe I was being overzealous, but it always appeared to me that many of em didn’t really fuck with dude like that. I don’t know, maybe I’m just lookin’ too deep into it.

  6. Black Brokaw Says:

    land be callin niggas zesty but the main one wearing fedoras

  7. landlord Says:

    That nigga Jada raps like he been writing to the same beat his whole career.

    ———-

    wow @ the truth

  8. London Bloke Says:

    In that sentence he doesnt even allude to the idea of either of the brothers getting the crown

    I respect his honesty

  9. hl Says:

    land be callin niggas zesty but the main one wearing fedoras

    lol

  10. 007 Says:

    Might be a lil too late for a Pusha T solo joint….he can spit tho but who really goin cop that?

  11. oh4werd Says:

    Nah I was just asking cause I’ve heard Mos, Kweli, and Common all stan for Nas. Just cause they haven’t worked together doesn’t mean much. Only conscience dude that I’ve really heard shit on Nas is NY Oil.

    ^^^^

    Why Remix…i think all if not most of themon that song wit nas

  12. b-ease Says:

    London Bloke Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:14 am
    I really care less about a rappers personal life though.

    ^

    1st oath of a Joe Budden Fan

    ^^
    (c) D-Block

  13. D. Billz Says:

    # hl Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    What conscience rapper hasn’t given Nas his props?

    ^Maybe I was being overzealous, but it always appeared to me that many of em didn’t really fuck with dude like that. I don’t know, maybe I’m just lookin’ too deep into it.

    Nah I was just asking cause I’ve heard Mos, Kweli, and Common all stan for Nas. Just cause they haven’t worked together doesn’t mean much. Only conscience dude that I’ve really heard shit on Nas is NY Oil.

    ^Yeah, THEM type niggas. A lot of conscience rappers don’t have no type of style or charisma so they quick to throw Nas under the bus.

  14. landlord Says:

    yep… like ladies wear Fedoras … sure you right…

    now there’s your two lines for today, Stanley… eat that …

  15. London Bloke Says:

    eat that …

    ^lmao

    dat’chu Diddy?

  16. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # 007 Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Might be a lil too late for a Pusha T solo joint….he can spit tho but who really goin cop that?
    ————————————————————-

    Not to mention who would release it if they can’t even sell a regular Clipse record. Unless they do it independently…

  17. Tong Po Flo Says:

    land be callin niggas zesty but the main one wearing fedoras

    ^ word? Fedoras are the shit

  18. hl Says:

    ^Yeah, THEM type niggas. A lot of conscience rappers don’t have no type of style or charisma so they quick to throw Nas under the bus.

    Oh word…that nigga was extra mad at Nas. I always felt like dude comes off (nh) like he thinks he’s a legend just because he came up in a certain era.

  19. Remixznflow Says:

    just say the word out loud and tell me you dont feel a type of way…

  20. London Bloke Says:

    I imagine atleast one Nahger still wears them suede Kangol hats

    Plug…or El Feces is my guess

    Maybe cOLD

  21. D. Billz Says:

    Real rap, I feel what Pusha is sayin’ (nh) because it’s wayyyyy too many ghostwritten artists out here. This aint a movie. Aint no writers on the scripts.

  22. b-ease Says:

    NY Oil.

    ^^
    ROFFLECOPTERS!!

    Remember that contest he had on Nah for a guest spot on his next album if you spit a verse over one of his songs? I’m soooo glad I didnt waste my time on that.

  23. mcb Says:

    Angry CLipse was nice, they had a reason, they just trying diff shit now, since they finally got a deal and wanted to do a celebration record.

  24. Remixznflow Says:

    # London Bloke Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    I imagine atleast one Nahger still wears them suede Kangol hats

    Plug…or El Feces is my guess

    Maybe cOLD

    ^
    and leather jackets…

  25. baby jesus Says:

    billz you went to baruch?

  26. Black Says:

    Not to mention who would release it if they can’t even sell a regular Clipse record. Unless they do it independently

    ^^^^^

    This… I think they know that their not gon sell and said fuck it, why split the little money we make off albums. I bet them niggas still tour as the Clipse tho.

  27. b-ease Says:

    ^ word? Fedoras are the shit

    ^^
    Who are you, Dick Tracy?

  28. hl Says:

    “You hear so much talk about who’s next and who’s up next and who’s the man and so on and so forth. In all fairness, I feel like Jay-Z is still relevant. He’s still the rapper. He’s the crown-holder right now.”

    ^True…but Jay ain’t the crown holder. Pusha can’t really believe that.

  29. Shooter Says:

    I imagine atleast one Nahger still wears them suede Kangol hats
    ^^^

    lol

  30. b-ease Says:

    but Jay ain’t the crown holder

    ^^
    *blank stare*

    Then who is?

  31. 007 Says:

    Not to mention who would release it if they can’t even sell a regular Clipse record. Unless they do it independently…

    Koch/E1 is his only shot lmao
    Shit everyone get 15 mins some last longer than others but its just the law of the universe they had a nice lil run I wouldnt necces say theyre DONE but as someone else said theyve def peaked IMO.

    Their content is shallow coke rap etc. They dont have much x-over appeal either. But I think they a solid group they compliment each other flows.

  32. Black Says:

    ^True…but Jay ain’t the crown holder. Pusha can’t really believe that.

    ^^^^^^

    I agree but id be hardpressed(nh) to name who is.

  33. landlord Says:

    Remixznflow Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
    just say the word out loud and tell me you dont feel a type of way…

    —–

    LMAO… AYO… you just supposed to type it, you not supposed to say it out loud B … you might be be invoking and conjuring up some homosexual spirits and whatnot …

  34. Remixznflow Says:

    i see titties.. i wanna like em…

    DRAKE SEES TITTIES.. he runs away from em?!!?!?!

    and YALL SUPPORT THIS NIGGA?!!!!

  35. Black Brokaw Says:

    I doubt there are that many ghostwriters…if that’s the case they all wack

  36. Remixznflow Says:

    i see titties.. i wanna lick em…

    DRAKE SEES TITTIES.. he runs away from em?!!?!?!

    and YALL SUPPORT THIS NIGGA?!!!!

    *fixed*

  37. London Bloke Says:

    Who remembers Eskay’s Zune competition?

    Roffle

  38. 456 Says:

    ^True…but Jay ain’t the crown holder. Pusha can’t really believe that.

    ^wake up duke.

  39. landlord Says:

    Who are you, Dick Tracy?

    —-

    oh shit… thats gonna be my new MC name… thats ill …

    i called it first dibs

  40. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    Wtf is Juice?

  41. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    It take’s a certain kind of arrogance and narcissism to tell yourself that you’re not a popular musician because people are stupid, and that because the industry doesn’t push your kind of music, that their a big conspiracy to hold you down. It shouldn’t be too shocking that someone saying that with a straight face is a conceited asshole of a person in real life.

  42. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    Who remembers Eskays nuclear netbook comp?

  43. London Bloke Says:

    Did Poirot wear fedoras? Or Colombo? I cant remember

  44. landlord Says:

    sheeit… who remembers eskay?

  45. baby jesus Says:

    Who remembers eskay gettin shook down at SXSW?

  46. Sound Verite' Says:

    “There’s too many spirits on these ghostwritten tunes, So you can’t crown the heir until you séance the room.” – proof that half these clowns don’t even write the stupid-ass retard lyrics themselves.

  47. landlord Says:

    Fedoras signify class, intellect and leadership …

    respect that

  48. Black Says:

    I doubt there are that many ghostwriters…if that’s the case they all wack

    ^^^^^^^

    Ghostwriters dont only have to come up with hot 16s. There are people who write hit records for artists. My cousin is married to one of the niggas that work for Poe boy and she said that plies has almost zero input into any of those radio records he drops. Beat selection, concept(such as it is), and hooks all come from other people.

  49. landlord Says:

    ghostwriters are all over the music industry… especially hiphop… dont be surprised…

  50. 007 Says:

    Ghostwriters dont only have to come up with hot 16s. There are people who write hit records for artists. My cousin is married to one of the niggas that work for Poe boy and she said that plies has almost zero input into any of those radio records he drops. Beat selection, concept(such as it is), and hooks all come from other people.

    ^And he’s trash!

  51. London Bloke Says:

    Big Kill is a Nah Right Legend

  52. baby jesus Says:

    and these are most definitely darts fired at wayne and or drake-ula

  53. Black Brokaw Says:

    landlord Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Fedoras signify class, intellect and leadership …

    ^not if you sit on your ass all day…

  54. 456 Says:

    truth is there are several unofficial crowns.

    goat
    king of hiphop
    the frank white: king of new york
    king of the south
    best rapper alive
    top 5 DOA

    these change hands constantly but when a person has it, its usually undisputed for a cycle. there was a point snoop had damn near every crown. king of new york is like the pope and few niggas can even qualify. the GOAT will always be disputed but certain niggas have dibs on that one based on empirical evidence. Jay is one of maybe three cats who can fix their mouth to call themselves that.

    PS: Joe Budden will never where a crown of any sort.

  55. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    but Jay ain’t the crown holder

    ^^
    *blank stare*

    Then who is?
    ————————————————–

    I don’t know if there was ever a crown holder in hip hop. By crown holder I mean a guy who was universally recognize as THE guy in rap.

    In any even, at this point Kanye>Jay in terms of talent and popularity. And that’s kind of been the case since Kanye’s first LP.

  56. b-ease Says:

    Beat selection, concept(such as it is), and hooks all come from other people.

    ^^
    I don’t doubt that for a second. With the exception of the beat selection (to my knowledge), those other two options even apply to Jay.

  57. D. Billz Says:

    # baby jesus Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    billz you went to baruch?

    ^Yup. Spring/Summer semester 2003. I didn’t graduate from there though (obviously). The most fun I’ve ever had at college. Didn’t get NO fuckin’ work done. Just hung around the club area all day. Made most of my now good friends there. 50 dropped that year. Freeway dropped that year. Budden dropped that year. I entered (and won) a freestyle battle. Danced in the WICC show (fuck yall I was nice, lol). Almost got G-checked on a few occasions (shoutouts to that all red 4X Northface flight jacket I copped on 125th). Worked at Jimmy’s (when they opened in Harlem) and quit the same day. So much shit man. Good times.

  58. b Says:

    That nigga Jada raps like he been writing to the same beat his whole career.

    i mentioned this tree months ago on nah and the jada stans defended him.he has never even tried to experiment with different flows.never scared remix he used that same lame flow,this is y hes not a superstar.smae subject matter ,same flow.

  59. landlord Says:

    baby jesus Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    and these are most definitely darts fired at wayne and or drake-ula

    ———–

    most definitely

  60. 456 Says:

    Black Brokaw Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    landlord Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Fedoras signify class, intellect and leadership …

    ^not if you sit on your ass all day…

    ^”THEY SHOOTIN'” (c) nasir

  61. London Bloke Says:

    PS: Joe Budden will never where a crown of any sort.

    ^
    lies

    GOAT Loser.

  62. Black Says:

    It take’s a certain kind of arrogance and narcissism to tell yourself that you’re not a popular musician because people are stupid, and that because the industry doesn’t push your kind of music, that their a big conspiracy to hold you down.

    ^^^^^^

    I always felt this way. There are certain artists that just wont become superstars and they have to accept that. It aint your lack of promotion or the “presentation of the project”, its just not gon happen.

  63. Black Brokaw Says:

    # Black Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    I doubt there are that many ghostwriters…if that’s the case they all wack

    ^^^^^^^

    Ghostwriters dont only have to come up with hot 16s. There are people who write hit records for artists. My cousin is married to one of the niggas that work for Poe boy and she said that plies has almost zero input into any of those radio records he drops. Beat selection, concept(such as it is), and hooks all come from other people.

    ^true. I think artists start out as real artists then they lose all creative insight into their songs once they reach a certain level. The best paid artists don’t write or put the concepts together for their records it seems like.

  64. 007 Says:

    @456

    truth is there are several unofficial crowns.

    goat
    king of hiphop
    the frank white: king of new york
    king of the south
    best rapper alive
    top 5 DOA

    List your crownholders

  65. landlord Says:

    ^not if you sit on your ass all day…

    —————-

    stop lookin at niggas asses

  66. b-ease Says:

    I don’t know if there was ever a crown holder in hip hop. By crown holder I mean a guy who was universally recognize as THE guy in rap.

    ^^
    Jay-Z was/is universally recognized as THE guy in rap. In tho Kanye may arguably more popular, he’s still his son, and the bottom line, niggas in the street think he’s a homo (not really literally, but you get what I’m sayin). Same applies to Em. The only comp Jay’s had for universal crown is 50 and Nas in the early/mid 00s.

  67. 456 Says:

    mean a guy who was universally recognize as THE guy in rap.

    In any even, at this point Kanye>Jay in terms of talent and popularity. And that’s kind of been the case since Kanye’s first LP.

    ^When Rakim had it, it was damn near universal. Same with Snoop.

  68. hl Says:

    PS: Joe Budden will never where a crown of any sort.

    ^
    lies

    GOAT Loser.

    LMAO

  69. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    PS: Joe Budden will never where a crown of any sort.
    ————————————————-

    Given how many times he’s been punched, you have to imagine Joe’s covering some chipped teeth with dental crowns. So there’s that.

  70. Black Says:

    I don’t know if there was ever a crown holder in hip hop. By crown holder I mean a guy who was universally recognize as THE guy in rap.

    ^^^^^^^

    I think Jay was that guy between Vol 3 and the Blueprint.

  71. b-ease Says:

    ^When Rakim had it, it was damn near universal. Same with Snoop.

    ^^
    Yep.

  72. b-ease Says:

    I think Jay was that guy between Vol 3 and the Blueprint.

    ^^
    Of course he was. But I’d say it actually started at Vol.2.

  73. Tong Po Flo Says:

    ^ word? Fedoras are the shit

    ^^
    Who are you, Dick Tracy?

    ^ lol hey I don’t those 1930’s Great Depression fedoras, they have stylish up to the times joints, it’s good to have variety in your hat collection, having just fitted caps is boring

  74. London Bloke Says:

    work to do

    :-(

    …1…

  75. 456 Says:

    lies

    GOAT Loser.

    ^his crown then would be a sweaty du-rag once used by memphis bleek

  76. baby jesus Says:

    baby jesus Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    and these are most definitely darts fired at wayne and or drake-ula

    ^
    and possibly j.cole?

  77. Troyvul Says:

    Bucket Hats > Fedoras

  78. baby jesus Says:

    na nvm he said it was written around time d.o.a dropped

  79. Black Brokaw Says:

    # landlord Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    ^not if you sit on your ass all day…

    —————-

    stop lookin at niggas asses

    ^this nigga types with Zest-lock on

  80. hl Says:

    I don’t know. Jay fell off IMO. He’s popular as ever but I don’t look forward to hearing him rap anymore.

  81. landlord Says:

    Troyvul Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:40 am
    Bucket Hats > Fedoras

    ——–

    in the summer, yes

  82. NovemberEnd Says:

    Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor was arrested early Thursday after being accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at a Montebello, N.Y., hotel, police said.

    Taylor, who has a history of drug abuse and runs-in with the law, is being charged with third-degree rape, which involves having intercourse with a minor, authorities said.

    The 51-year-old former New York Giants linebacker was taken into custody by Ramapo, N.Y., police and was being held in the town jail. His arraignment is scheduled for Thursday afternoon. Additional information will be provided at a news conference.

    Taylor, who starred for the Giants for 13 seasons, was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1999. Last November he was charged in Florida with leaving the scene of an accident.

  83. baby jesus Says:

    say word? thats crazy tho i got to baruch now, and i dont see any signs of that fun you claimed to be havin over here.

  84. mcb Says:

    Crown Holder has to put out good music consistently, he aint done that in a MINUTE. so nope.

  85. D. Billz Says:

    Fidel Castro caps > fedoras

    No bullshit, those hats are my favorite. I copped one from H&M last year. Trying to find other brands since H&M dropped the ball this year because they made the fuckin’ brim too big.

  86. Black Says:

    ^true. I think artists start out as real artists then they lose all creative insight into their songs once they reach a certain level. The best paid artists don’t write or put the concepts together for their records it seems like.

    ^^^^^

    Part of that is once u reach that level u start working with producers as opposed to beatmakers. where niggas used to give u a beat cd they now call artists like “i have a record thats perfect for u” word to Lollipop(nh).

  87. hl Says:

    Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor was arrested early Thursday after being accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at a Montebello, N.Y., hotel, police said.

    wow…

  88. b-ease Says:

    Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor was arrested early Thursday after being accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at a Montebello, N.Y., hotel, police said.

    ^^
    Holy shit LT.

  89. D. Billz Says:

    Hey now. I’m only gonna let but so much of this Joe Budden trashing go on.

  90. landlord Says:

    Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor was arrested early Thursday after being accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at a Montebello, N.Y., hotel, police said.

    ———-

    woww….crack cocaine is a helluva drug…

  91. hl Says:

    NFL players stay raping.

  92. D. Billz Says:

    Come on L.T.! Damn chief. Didn’t they JUST induct yo ass in the HOF? SMH

  93. mcb Says:

    COuld just be a money grubbin bitch,but it is LT, you all act super suprised.

    good luck to him tho, even thought it’s Patriots ALL DAY, this has nothing todo with that.

  94. Black Says:

    Of course he was. But I’d say it actually started at Vol.2.

    ^^^^^

    True, after that tho there is no one. Wayne was probably the closet as much as i hate to say it.

  95. 007 Says:

    Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor was arrested early Thursday after being accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at a Montebello, N.Y., hotel, police said.

    ^Dam another one! Niggas be wildin 15 dam

  96. b-ease Says:

    Crown Holder has to put out good music consistently, he aint done that in a MINUTE. so nope.

    ^^
    That’s subjective. BP3 was one of like 6 or 7 rap albums to plat in the last 5 years, and Empire State of Mind was the biggest hiphop single of ’09. He’s constantly in the tabloids, headlined Coachella, performed at the Yankee parade, etc, etc.

    He’s hold the crown dude, its kind of irrelevant how individuals feel about his music.

  97. landlord Says:

    NFL players stay raping.

    ————–

    LOL… im sayin

  98. mcb Says:

    WAIT 15 YEARS OLD

    *Takes back last comment*

    OHHH SHIIIIIIIT SON
    16 will get you 20.

  99. b Says:

    i remember when mase was that dude and jigga was still finding himself,following whatever trend was hot at the time(puffy, big,foxy , dmx)my cousin used to be real cool wit mase and told me of an an friendly argument between mase ,jigga, dame etc in harlem that almost got carried away when mase pointed out jiggas lackluster sales at that point.

  100. mcb Says:

    baby jesus Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:39 am
    baby jesus Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    and these are most definitely darts fired at wayne and or drake-ula

    ^
    and possibly j.cole?

    I feel like they appreciate J COle more than the other jokers.

  101. b-ease Says:

    Hey now. I’m only gonna let but so much of this Joe Budden trashing go on.

    ^^
    LOL, what’s funny is that two years ago, it woulve never gotten this far on Nah.

    Buddens fell off. Or mnaybe just ty biggum’s commenting did.

  102. Dewill Says:

    Nah you just Mr gallant, ol riding on a white horse, love can conquer all, all women are flowers, Hallmark speaking, cassanova-cupid lookin ass nigga

    #noshots

    ^^^^

    LMAO….Nigga u ol my heart has been a doormat for too long so I’ll beat off to playboy mags instead of having a relationship face ass nigga…

    sorry for the delay…

    *back to meeting*

  103. landlord Says:

    Lawrence Taylor = Beezy?

    hes not here either…

    that nigga incarcerated

  104. Shooter Says:

    I don’t know. Jay fell off IMO. He’s popular as ever but I don’t look forward to hearing him rap anymore.
    ^^^

    my sentiments. its a shame too…

  105. hl Says:

    my cousin used to be real cool wit mase and told me of an an friendly argument between mase ,jigga, dame etc in harlem that almost got carried away when mase pointed out jiggas lackluster sales at that point.

    lol at the second hand rumors on Nah today.

  106. Black Says:

    Im actually not surprised to hear that shit bout LT. I read his autobiography and its pretty clear he is clinically insane.

  107. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    @ b-ease, Black, and 456: Yeah, I guess you’re right. There were guys who were king.

    But I gotta say, I don’t think Jay was ever the biggest rapper in the world. Biggie, Mase/Puffy, DMX, Eminem, Nelly, 50, Kanye, Lil Wayne…that’s an almost chronological list [with overlap] of guy that were bigger than Jay at different points in his career. He might have been the most universally respected rapper, as all of the guys mentioned had parts of hip hop’s audience that didn’t respect them. But yeah, I guess Jay wins King on that regard. Kind of like how Nas is probably the king of undergrounds/alternative/conscious hip hop…pretty much universal respect.

  108. D. Billz Says:

    So Gucci comes home (again) May 12th huh? Not that I care for either of them bammas music, but this might be a HOOOOT as summer. Real rap, DC isn’t even a hiphop city and you can hear them dudes (and chicks) blastin’ Gucci on any given day. Clifford better make nice with dude or he might get swept under the rug. Call me crazy, but I don’t see T.I. crackin’ 250K the first week with the way these Brick Squad bammas are runnin’ shit in ATL. And ATL is the NYC of the South so whatever they do, it spreads across the Southern region.

  109. oh4werd Says:

    dam i hate my job…

  110. mcb Says:

    b-ease

    Crown should be skill, but alas, you’re semi right, but its all popularity. dude had albums, but people hating on Nas need to reevaluate Jiggas shit.

    NOT WANT A DEBATE ON THAT AGAIN just saying.

    I think the crown is going to the 90s rappers redoin album sequels.

    Rae>Jay in 2009. disagree with that, and wow.

  111. cOLD Says:

    work to do

    :-(

    …1…

    ^ washing your bed ridden mothers pussy is a task huh. Fuck boy.

  112. landlord Says:

    Black Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:45 am
    Im actually not surprised to hear that shit bout LT. I read his autobiography and its pretty clear he is clinically insane.

    ———-

    word… his wifey used to have to go find him, and drag him out the crack houses in Newark…

  113. mcb Says:

    RNC Chairman got a nice written viewpoint.
    nh

  114. cOLD Says:

    ^ no shots London.

  115. D. Billz Says:

    # hl Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    my cousin used to be real cool wit mase and told me of an an friendly argument between mase ,jigga, dame etc in harlem that almost got carried away when mase pointed out jiggas lackluster sales at that point.

    lol at the second hand rumors on Nah today.

    ^ “don’t really fuck with Dame but still cop Jigga”

    It aint really far-fetched. Ma$e and Vol.1 dropped the same year and Betha came out the gate SMOKIN’. Jay didn’t heat up until Vol. 2.

  116. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    jigga was still finding himself,following whatever trend was hot at the time
    ———————————————————

    Story of his whole career…lol

  117. b-ease Says:

    Rae>Jay in 2009. disagree with that, and wow.

    ^^
    As a rapper? Fuck yea. But there’s more to having the crown than just being dope. If any random rapper could get a free verse from either Jay or Rae RIGHT NOW, who do you think they would pick? It is what it is.

  118. 456 Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    king of new york: jay-z (but he is reigns over a divided kingdom. nas loyalist continue to riot and his defeated enemies still hold small factions – the destroyed dipset movement, 50’s knuckleheads and fat joe’s tiny uptown alliance, etc)

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI. Rick Ross is vying for the title. Scarface, Master P, Mystikal all held it briefly. andre 3000 was given it and refused.

    goat: jay, rakim, biggie and nas all have legitimate claims on this title.

  119. cOLD Says:

    I just scarfaced 2 slices and a 20fl 0z pepsi. after all that healthy eating chatter.

  120. D. Billz Says:

    # landlord Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Black Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:45 am
    Im actually not surprised to hear that shit bout LT. I read his autobiography and its pretty clear he is clinically insane.

    ———-

    word… his wifey used to have to go find him, and drag him out the crack houses in Newark…

    ^Getting dragged ANYWHERE out of NWK is never a good look.

  121. b-ease Says:

    ^ washing your bed ridden mothers pussy is a task huh. Fuck boy.

    ^^
    Jesus Christ cOLD. That was ugly.

  122. Shooter Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica
    ^^

    nah

  123. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # mcb Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    RNC Chairman got a nice written viewpoint.
    nh
    ——————————————-

    Thanks.

  124. cOLD Says:

    456 Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:48 am
    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    king of new york: jay-z (but he is reigns over a divided kingdom. nas loyalist continue to riot and his defeated enemies still hold small factions – the destroyed dipset movement, 50’s knuckleheads and fat joe’s tiny uptown alliance, etc)

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI. Rick Ross is vying for the title. Scarface, Master P, Mystikal all held it briefly. andre 3000 was given it and refused.

    goat: jay, rakim, biggie and nas all have legitimate claims on this title.

    ^ good list.

  125. b-ease Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    king of new york: jay-z (but he is reigns over a divided kingdom. nas loyalist continue to riot and his defeated enemies still hold small factions – the destroyed dipset movement, 50’s knuckleheads and fat joe’s tiny uptown alliance, etc)

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI. Rick Ross is vying for the title. Scarface, Master P, Mystikal all held it briefly. andre 3000 was given it and refused.

    goat: jay, rakim, biggie and nas all have legitimate claims on this title.

    ^^
    I can’t disagree with any of this.

  126. D. Billz Says:

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI.

    ^Amen Ra. Dat boy Rick is KILLIN’ em.

  127. hl Says:

    I just scarfaced

    smh/lol

  128. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    Rae>Jay in 2009. disagree with that, and wow.

    ^^
    As a rapper? Fuck yea. But there’s more to having the crown than just being dope. If any random rapper could get a free verse from either Jay or Rae RIGHT NOW, who do you think they would pick? It is what it is.

    –OMFG you are you serious?

  129. D. Billz Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    ^ washing your bed ridden mothers pussy is a task huh. Fuck boy.

    ^^
    Jesus Christ cOLD. That was ugly.

    ^ “Master P sneaker”

  130. Black Says:

    Biggie, Mase/Puffy, DMX, Eminem, Nelly, 50, Kanye, Lil Wayne…that’s an almost chronological list [with overlap] of guy that were bigger than Jay at different points in his career

    ^^^^^^

    True but nobody has gone consistently platinum like Jay has (cept for Em). Kanye is only 3 albums in, Nelly & X & Mase fell off, and it took Wayne 13yrs to get where he is now. I may be mistaken but hasnt every Hov album after RD gon plat?

  131. D. Billz Says:

    What’s da problem Tribe?

  132. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    on my mothers life, I’ve heard a couple verses better than Rae in 2009

  133. b-ease Says:

    I just scarfaced 2 slices and a 20fl 0z pepsi. after all that healthy eating chatter.

    ^^
    Yo, I just got on my health kick on Tuesday. No soda, or high fructose corn syrup in general, spinach instead of iceburg lettuce, nothing fried, no fast food, etc. Going hard on this P90X too…(waits for Billz joke…).

  134. cOLD Says:

    Shooter Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:49 am
    the best rapper alive: jay electronica
    ^^

    nah

    ^ then who?

  135. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    on my mothers life, I’ve heard a couple Soulja boy verses better than Rae in 2009

  136. Shooter Says:

    andre 3000 was given it and refused.
    ^^

    lol, word

    “got in them shoes, tried them, wore them, wasnt a perfect fit so I couldnt sport ’em”

  137. D. Billz Says:

    True but nobody has gone consistently platinum like Jay has

    ^ X’s first 4 went platinum. 2 in one year as a matter of fact. He broke a record.

  138. Black Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    ^^^^^^^

    I disagree simply because i havent heard dude rap enough.

  139. cOLD Says:

    Yo, I just got on my health kick on Tuesday. No soda, or high fructose corn syrup in general, spinach instead of iceburg lettuce, nothing fried, no fast food, etc. Going hard on this P90X too…(waits for Billz joke…).

    ^ damn now I feel guilty, I was doing good up until today with the soda.

  140. 456 Says:

    i remember when mase was that dude and jigga was still finding himself,following whatever trend was hot at the time(puffy, big,foxy , dmx)my cousin used to be real cool wit mase and told me of an an friendly argument between mase ,jigga, dame etc in harlem that almost got carried away when mase pointed out jiggas lackluster sales at that point.

    ^yes and jay bodied mase subsequently. mase shoulda never said that shit.

  141. D. Billz Says:

    Going hard on this P90X too…(waits for Billz joke…).

    ^ *breakdances in all red on Grape Street*

  142. b-ease Says:

    I stopped listening to DMX after Flesh of My Flesh. I’ve never heard And There was X, and that’s his best selling album if I’m not mistaken.

    <<<<<<<<<< Party Up

  143. landlord Says:

    ^ washing your bed ridden mothers pussy is a task huh. Fuck boy.

    ————

    i keep hearing these loud popping sounds

  144. D. Billz Says:

    # atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    on my mothers life, I’ve heard a couple Soulja boy verses better than Rae in 2009

    ^ “I feel sorry for your mother”

  145. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # Black Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Biggie, Mase/Puffy, DMX, Eminem, Nelly, 50, Kanye, Lil Wayne…that’s an almost chronological list [with overlap] of guy that were bigger than Jay at different points in his career

    ^^^^^^

    True but nobody has gone consistently platinum like Jay has (cept for Em). Kanye is only 3 albums in, Nelly & X & Mase fell off, and it took Wayne 13yrs to get where he is now. I may be mistaken but hasnt every Hov album after RD gon plat?
    ——————————————————

    Yeah [in fact I think even RD is platinum now]. That’s probably what given him the win…he survives.

  146. landlord Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    ————–

    yep

  147. mcb Says:

    atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:52 am
    on my mothers life, I’ve heard a couple Soulja boy verses better than Rae in 2009

    ^^
    not freestylse, off OB4CLII, im saying that album was nice. period. i have friends who were in and out of rap, liked only what they heard etc…, literally the first rap album they OD’d on in YEARS. .

  148. landlord Says:

    RIP Tribe’s mother…

  149. DC (District of Chase) Says:

    So Gucci comes home (again) May 12th huh? Not that I care for either of them bammas music, but this might be a HOOOOT as summer. Real rap, DC isn’t even a hiphop city and you can hear them dudes (and chicks) blastin’ Gucci on any given day. Clifford better make nice with dude or he might get swept under the rug. Call me crazy, but I don’t see T.I. crackin’ 250K the first week with the way these Brick Squad bammas are runnin’ shit in ATL. And ATL is the NYC of the South so whatever they do, it spreads across the Southern region.

    ^Great analogy, ATL is the southern NYC, and TIP is the southern Jay-Z. It doesn’t matter who’s hot, who’s out, who’s doing what, when TIP does what he does, no one can fuck with him.

  150. Carlos Voltron AKA NYJ SB 45 Winners Says:

    # atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    on my mothers life, I’ve heard a couple Soulja boy verses better than Rae in 2009

    ^
    Your mother is the one who first turned out Dez Bryant’s mom and led her on the path of prostitution so I don’t take much stock in your statement.

  151. Black Says:

    2 in one year as a matter of fact. He broke a record.

    ^^^^^

    Thats my point tho the success of alot of these artists is a fad. Jay is the only rapper who was successful when X was, Ja was, 50 was, Wayne was, and now Drake is about to drop and hov is still here. he has undoubtedly had the best career of any rapper.

  152. Rey Says:

    goat = Jay-Z, BIG in 2nd place

    king of hiphop = if you mean hip-hop in terms of rappin’ skill, maybe Jay-E right now? univeral acclaim for the most part, nobody tombout “Electro fell off”.. If you mean hip-hop music, I guess Wayne, but that’s popularity, but if KanYe comes back and people give “Good Ass Job” a fair shot, KanYe will OWN the rap game (no jayceon taylor), period.

    the frank white: king of new york = Jay-Z, it’s stupid to think otherwise

    king of the south = Right now? Jeezy. Tip hasn’t dropped anything, Wayne is getting Window Love from Gudda Gudda, Luda is back to being relevant and interesting (IMO), but Jeezy’s that dude. Rawse doesn’t count because FL & MIA never really applies to the southern rap scene when I think of it, geography be damned, and I don’t think Rawse has the broad spectrum of appeal that jeezy does.

    best rapper alive = Staying out of this one, too hard to judge (nh)

    top 5 DOA = NaSir, Shawn Corey, Christopher Wallace, Marshall Mathers, Andre Benjamin. (i know i’m missing classics and therefore i completely concede the point that i don’t have enough info to accurately defend this point, but these are the five that impress me the most at rappin’ & rhymin’ skill)

    #justmy2cents

  153. D. Billz Says:

    # 456 Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    i remember when mase was that dude and jigga was still finding himself,following whatever trend was hot at the time(puffy, big,foxy , dmx)my cousin used to be real cool wit mase and told me of an an friendly argument between mase ,jigga, dame etc in harlem that almost got carried away when mase pointed out jiggas lackluster sales at that point.

    ^yes and jay bodied mase subsequently. mase shoulda never said that shit.

    ^That shit was the WORST. I was a stan of both them dudes at the time and to see one man vehemently destroy another man’s career was disheartening. That nigga got frustrated and started talkin’ slick about Brandy (who’s mother managed him nonetheless) and immediately it was a wrap. Off to Atlanta.

  154. oh4werd Says:

    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    king of new york: jay-z (but he is reigns over a divided kingdom. nas loyalist continue to riot and his defeated enemies still hold small factions – the destroyed dipset movement, 50’s knuckleheads and fat joe’s tiny uptown alliance, etc)

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI. Rick Ross is vying for the title. Scarface, Master P, Mystikal all held it briefly. andre 3000 was given it and refused.

    goat: jay, rakim, biggie and nas all have legitimate claims on this title.
    ^^^

    i see ur veiwpoint and i admit u give good reasons for most of it but i disagree wit Ricky being king of south runner up. that goes to wayne even tho he dont claim it.

    and i would put eminem in goat status as making a claim plus jay elec is not best rapper alive

  155. b-ease Says:

    It doesn’t matter who’s hot, who’s out, who’s doing what, when TIP does what he does, no one can fuck with him.

    ^^
    Emphatic No-sign. Paper Trail was a huge success, but he has Jim Jonsin, Rhianna, and Justin Timberlake to thank for that. Dude is overrated as hell, but we’ve discussed that ad nauseum on here.

  156. Black Brokaw Says:

    I havent seen this many essays since Beans went at Jay

  157. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI
    ——————————————

    In a way TI sort of traded it in for massive pop success. He had both in 06. For some reason to be King of the South you sort of can’t be one of the biggest rappers in the world it seems…hence why Wayne isn’t in the running at all.

    Never mind Ross, I think Jeezy might get it. He’s popular but not too much, and he’s got respect. He’s also becoming a better rapper.

  158. hl Says:

    Illmatic: Platinum
    It Was Written Released: 2× Platinum
    I Am… 2× Platinum
    Nastradamus: Platinum
    Stillmatic: Platinum
    God’s Son: Platinum
    Street’s Disciple: Platinum
    Hip Hop Is Dead: Gold
    Untitled: Gold

  159. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    Theres a reason why Rae will never be on anyones top 65

  160. oh4werd Says:

    Emphatic No-sign. Paper Trail was a huge success, but he has Jim Jonsin, Rhianna, and Justin Timberlake to thank for that. Dude is overrated as hell, but we’ve discussed that ad nauseum on here.

    ^^^

    hate toadmit it but pretty much

  161. D. Billz Says:

    Rawse doesn’t count because FL & MIA never really applies to the southern rap scene when I think of it, geography be damned,

    ^This is a rather interesting point. If you factored in Trick Daddy (yeah I know, but just see where I’m going with this) he would be considered a down-South artist from MIA. But that’s really the only example I got. Lol

  162. Troyvul Says:

    I havent seen this many essays since Beans went at Jay
    ^
    I was just sayin that lol

  163. London Bloke Says:

    This nigga said noshots but hit me (no guru) with a shotty from close-range to the face (pause)

  164. cOLD Says:

    and immediately it was a wrap. Off to Atlanta

    ^ other key pieces to this story are missing….

  165. b Says:

    i think rakim is the goat because he is the father of these multi syllable rhyme schemes.how would people sound if rah never came out.i gave yall a way to rhyme(C)nas.until somebody comes out with some a different rhyme scheme he will be the goat (imo)

  166. London Bloke Says:

    Too soon?

  167. landlord Says:

    Tribe must take shots at Rae to get extra attention… no way he believes the bullshit he types about Raekwon…

  168. cOLD Says:

    This nigga said noshots but hit me (no guru) with a shotty from close-range to the face (pause)

    ^lol London, you know how we do, shoot a nigga on his way out type shit.

  169. DC (District of Chase) Says:

    It doesn’t matter who’s hot, who’s out, who’s doing what, when TIP does what he does, no one can fuck with him.

    ^^
    Emphatic No-sign. Paper Trail was a huge success, but he has Jim Jonsin, Rhianna, and Justin Timberlake to thank for that. Dude is overrated as hell, but we’ve discussed that ad nauseum on here.

    ^WHAT!?!?!?! The intro and I’m Illy alone make that album tough. Don’t knock the fact that his singles were big hits, they’re supposed to be, thats why he recorded them. but the other songs on the album were certified.

  170. mcb Says:

    Rey Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 11:56 am
    goat = Jay-Z, BIG in 2nd place

    not even close, not even close.

  171. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    top 5 DOA = NaSir, Shawn Corey, Christopher Wallace, Marshall Mathers, Andre Benjamin

    –This is my top 5. big is one, Nas is 3 tho

  172. b-ease Says:

    ^ other key pieces to this story are missing….

    ^^
    Word, lol. Like that price on his head, and him getting found with a tranny (yes, it happened two times).

  173. Black Brokaw Says:

    I dont even know what the topic is. Zest man went into hiding

  174. cOLD Says:

    I havent seen this many essays since Beans went at Jay

    ^ oh how entertaining this could have bee, only if Jay took the bait.

  175. landlord Says:

    top 5 DOA = ……., Marshall Mathers, Andre Benjamin

    ————–

    LMAO

  176. b-ease Says:

    i think rakim is the goat because he is the father of these multi syllable rhyme schemes

    ^^
    See that’s the thing tho. LL was spitting multisyllabic in 85-86, and Ra dropped around the same time as Kane and G Rap. It was moreso the delivery. Nobody’s voice had ever sounded so…ill.

  177. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    It doesn’t matter who’s hot, who’s out, who’s doing what, when TIP does what he does, no one can fuck with him.

    ^^
    Emphatic No-sign. Paper Trail was a huge success, but he has Jim Jonsin, Rhianna, and Justin Timberlake to thank for that. Dude is overrated as hell, but we’ve discussed that ad nauseum on here.
    ——————————————————-

    You could say the same thing about BP3. [and I’d agree both times] Alicia Keys, Rihanna, Mr. Hudson. Jay was unnoticable on any of those songs.

  178. Rey Says:

    @ Billz– I mean, I think GA, KY, TX, AL.. I just don’t think FL when I think of “down south” music. *shrug*

  179. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    Tribe must take shots at Rae to get extra attention… no way he believes the bullshit he types about Raekwon…

    –I dont, I dont want to say hes overrated cause the god is a legend but y’all def pushing him towards that line.

    2 hot albums in 15yrs? i can divide

  180. cOLD Says:

    I do think Jay could have ended beans existence with one song tho.

  181. 456 Says:

    i think rakim is the goat because he is the father of these multi syllable rhyme schemes.how would people sound if rah never came out.i gave yall a way to rhyme(C)nas.until somebody comes out with some a different rhyme scheme he will be the goat (imo)

    ^this is why he is the greatest in my mind. the dent he left in the music is unfuckwidable. no one has changed the course of the music like him. he is king solomon of hiphop.

  182. b-ease Says:

    Don’t knock the fact that his singles were big hits

    ^^
    I’m not knocking the fact that they were hits, I’m just commenting on the fact that TI’s prescence had nothing to do with those songs being hits. Like, at all.

  183. Black Says:

    Remember back when the King of Ny was damn near the same as being the King Of Rap. Niggas say their the KONY now and i laugh at that shit.

  184. hl Says:

    I do think Jay could have ended beans existence with one song tho.

    Right now?

  185. D. Billz Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    ^ other key pieces to this story are missing….

    ^^
    Word, lol. Like that price on his head, and him getting found with a tranny (yes, it happened two times).

    ^Damn, how could I forget those parts? I forgot they ran his ass up outta Harlem.

    Question: What the FUCK does Huddy 6 do?

  186. landlord Says:

    Rakim is GOAT MC

    WUTANGCLAN is GOAT MC Group

    JayZ has had GOAT rap career

    JayElectronica has GOAT potential

  187. Black Says:

    top 5 DOA = ……., Marshall Mathers, Andre Benjamin

    ^^^^^^^

    Em doesnt make that list because there are not enough black ppl that fuck with his music.

  188. 456 Says:

    I’m not knocking the fact that they were hits, I’m just commenting on the fact that TI’s prescence had nothing to do with those songs being hits. Like, at all.

    ^justin renegaded him (no). just like he did 50 on ayo.

  189. oh4werd Says:

    honestly u have the south then u have states that hold their own same thing with every other region…simple as that

  190. b Says:

    when ive heard a big pun verse or two in my lifetime its hard for me to call rappers like t.i ,rick ross, lil wayne, and game nice. they are average at best.a young ali vegas was even more superior lyrically.

  191. atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    over the past 20yrs the art of rap has matured, theres been a lot of rappers that havevtaken Ras flow and made it better. Rakim is obsolete imo

  192. 456 Says:

    Em doesnt make that list because there are not enough black ppl that fuck with his music.

    ^he has a relevance problem. incredible technician but what hes saying rarely moves your soul. crown holders hit you in the heart at some point.

  193. D. Billz Says:

    # Rey Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    @ Billz– I mean, I think GA, KY, TX, AL.. I just don’t think FL when I think of “down south” music. *shrug*

    ^Yeah, for the earlier years FL was just dance/club/base music (Luke, 69 Boyz, etc). So I get that. Same as Baltimore being considered East Coast hiphop when our scene was ruled (and still is) by Club music.

  194. D. Billz Says:

    but what hes saying rarely moves your soul

    ^You gotta have a soul to move one.

  195. NovemberEnd Says:

    Remember back when the King of Ny was damn near the same as being the King Of Rap. Niggas say their the KONY now and i laugh at that shit.
    ^^^^^^^^
    how far the mighty have fallen…

  196. mcb Says:

    Tribe

    I said 2009

    why are you turning rae into this GOAT argument

    I said 2009 Rae>Jay. that wsa the statement, cmon son

  197. Rey Says:

    @ Billz– Right, exactly.. I think southern rap and i think of the 808s and the “louder” structures of the songs. I don’t think Rawse counts because, frankly, he doesn’t make “Southern-sounding” music anymore, nor does he make that Luke Bass music.

  198. cOLD Says:

    I do think Jay could have ended beans existence with one song tho.

    Right now?

    ^ don’t be fooled by the type music he’s making now, he’s still as ill as before, but on medication to relieve the effects. Let that nigga get off his meds, and watch. But we all know Jay Z is better suited subdued, than the ill rapper of yesteryear.

  199. RNC Chairman Michael Steele Says:

    GOAT: Biggie.

    King of Hip Hop: If you go by respect, Jay-Z [I’ve been convinced]. But THE game changer in hip hop right now, is Kanye West. He could shift hip hop’s current trends on his own. And while part of hip hop’s audience doesn’t like him, you’d be hard pressed to find a hip hop musician who didn’t respect him.

    King of NY: Jay-Z, no contest.

    King of the South: No one right now, but Jeezy’s in the best position to take it. T.I. and Wayne are too big to be identified regionally.

    Best Rapper Alive: Depends heavily on criteria. But who’s the guy everyone wants a guest verse from? I won’t name it for fear of flaming…but you all kind of know who flows the best right now over pretty much any beat.

    Top 5 DOA: Nas, Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye, Biggie.

  200. b Says:

    atcq aka President of Nah Right Comment Section Says:

    May 6th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    over the past 20yrs the art of rap has matured, theres been a lot of rappers that havevtaken Ras flow and made it better. Rakim is obsolete imo

    rah raps are just as potent today as they were 20 years ago, especially with the current caliber of mc’s that are popular now.

  201. 456 Says:

    over the past 20yrs the art of rap has matured, theres been a lot of rappers that havevtaken Ras flow and made it better. Rakim is obsolete imo

    ^ingrate. it’s like saying tesla, the father of modern electronics, is obsolete while using the technology he invented. smh.

  202. cOLD Says:

    ^You gotta have a soul to move one.

    ^ bumba rasss!

  203. b Says:

    u cant even call these dudes mc’s anymore

  204. Mook Says:

    I do think Jay could have ended beans existence with one song tho.

    ^^
    For Jay not to reply with a response diss track already is killing Beans and Fifty. Jay at that level now where he don’t have to respond to niggas.

    Side Note: This Jeezy Feat. Pusha T = I’LL’IN is dope.

  205. Carlos Voltron AKA NYJ SB 45 Winners Says:

    *Reads essays*

    So, from what I’m hearing, basically you muthafuckas are never satisfied?

  206. koa29 Says:

    456 Says:
    May 6th, 2010 at 11:48 am
    the best rapper alive: jay electronica

    king of new york: jay-z (but he is reigns over a divided kingdom. nas loyalist continue to riot and his defeated enemies still hold small factions – the destroyed dipset movement, 50’s knuckleheads and fat joe’s tiny uptown alliance, etc)

    king of the south: idk. but it is no longer TI. Rick Ross is vying for the title. Scarface, Master P, Mystikal all held it briefly. andre 3000 was given it and refused.

    goat: jay, rakim, biggie and nas all have legitimate claims on this title.

    King of the south is most definitely still TI… dumb nahggers, the only buzz Ross has is on these damn rap blogs…get realistic

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