Raekwon On Working w/ Method Man & Ghostface

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Illustration: Chris Bachalo; Art Direction & Graphic Design: Alex Haldi

Raekwon spoke to Entertainment Weekly about the fans’ reception of Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II, the new album with Meth and Ghost as well as his next solo album, Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang. Some highlights:

How did you decide to make an album with those two guys specifically?
It was something that was going to happen sooner or later. Us three, we always work good together throughout the years. On a lot of records, me, Ghost, and Meth was always next to each other. If you look at [the Wu-Tang Clan] as being the Lakers, we are the MVPs of the team. We are the ones that everybody may feel like takes us to the championship. Everybody else is going to play their position, but these three are definitely going to have to control the ball at some point. This is what the fans been wanting, man…You know, I work for the fans.

From your perspective, what do you three bring to a project? How do you balance each other out?
When we get together, it’s a lot of energy in the building, because everybody knows Meth, Rae, and Ghost for being super-lyrical, but still got that great character inside their rhymes. I guess that’s why people really is excited about this record. They’re saying, “Yo, these dudes put the Wu where they need to be at.” I don’t look at it like that. I look at us all as being one, still. I understand some may have a little bit more special gift than others, but it’s still a team effort. I love to get on tracks with brothers like Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, the GZA. The whole crew is golden, man. When you think of us, you gotta say, “Yo, these are the Jacksons of hip-hop.” But for me to get in a room with Meth and Ghost and do an album, it’s serious to me. I know it’s going to be a lot of lyrics in there, it’s going to be a lot of great energy, stories. We all master these different departments of rhyming. So you’re just going to get a great album.

Link: Raekwon on ‘Wu-Massacre,’ the future of the Wu-Tang Clan, his label dreams, and more [EW’s Music Mix]

Wu-Massacre is dropping on March 30th. Pre-order it now on Amazon.

Previously: Meth, Ghost & Rae – Wu-Massacre (Track List)


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83 Responses to “Raekwon On Working w/ Method Man & Ghostface”

  1. Mbennett Says:

    I’m really hoping that this is one of those Wu albums that lives up to the hype.

  2. landlord Says:

    raekwon says

    I love to get on tracks with brothers like Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, the GZA. The whole crew is golden, man. When you think of us, you gotta say, “Yo, these are the Jacksons of hip-hop.”

    —————-

    *Jackson’s it up (seriously)*

    thats all good, Tito… but which one of you niggas is Michael? ..

  3. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    Michael = RZA

    This shit never gets off the ground without the Abbot

  4. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    I’m expecting this album to be marginal, but without RZA crafting the beats the expectations whould remain realistic (and low)

  5. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    Somehow I feel this album is doomed to disappoint.

    I hope I’m proven wrong…for Hip-Hop’s sake.

  6. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    U-God is Rebe.

  7. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    Joe Jackson = ODB

    RIP to both the nug sippers

  8. landlord Says:

    U-God is Rebe.

    ———–

    ayo…

  9. landlord Says:

    GZA = Jermaine

    the blackest one … and the one with the most overlooked talent …

  10. Bricktop Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    Michael = RZA

    This shit never gets off the ground without the Abbot
    ^
    dude, their last two or three albums haven’t gotten off the ground WITH the Rza. matter of fact, this cat has had zero – scratch that – negative contributions to the planet in over a decade.*

    them three have done exceptionally without him, and i don’t see any reason why they won’t continue to.

    * movie soundtracks don’t count.

  11. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    dude, their last two or three albums haven’t gotten off the ground WITH the Rza. matter of fact, this cat has had zero – scratch that – negative contributions to the planet in over a decade.*

    them three have done exceptionally without him, and i don’t see any reason why they won’t continue to.

    * movie soundtracks don’t count.
    ^^
    all of the best albums from anyone in the Wutang have on thing in common, RZA production, so shut up

  12. landlord Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    Michael = RZA

    This shit never gets off the ground without the Abbot

    ———

    until i see RZA complete a perfect 800 degree spin while his hair is on fire, i cant cosign that …

  13. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    RZA is the GOAT Wu member. Yall wouldve never heard of any of these guys without RZA. Say Im lying…

  14. &What?! Says:

    I don’t hold high expectations for this album, it’s probably be pretty dope, but not classic.

  15. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    until i see RZA complete a perfect 800 degree spin while his hair is on fire, i cant cosign that …
    ^
    I can’t really argue with this. Michael was one of one.

  16. &What?! Says:

    Bring Da Ruckus!

  17. landlord Says:

    im a career wutang stan, but it cant be ignored… RZA done fell off… alot

  18. hl Says:

    GZA = Jermaine

    the blackest one … and the one with the most overlooked talent …

    —–

    *respectfully disagrees*

  19. &What?! Says:

    I’m more rugged than slave-man boots..

  20. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    36 Chambers, WuTang Forever, Ironman, Tical, Liquid Swords & OB4CL are all great and all were entirely or nearly entirely produced by The Abbot/Bobby Digital/RZA whatever you wanna call him. As long as you call him the GOAT wutang member.

  21. hl Says:

    All three joints Rza did on Cuban Linx 2 were flames. Also to those doubting this album will be good, why wouldn’t it be dope?

  22. Bricktop Says:

    inconsistency = Rza.

    he deserves credit for compiling some Wu masterpieces, but. . . .for every ‘Verbal Intercourse’ there’s a couple of ‘Gravel Pits’. you can deny this if you want.

  23. AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:

    GZA = Jermaine

    the blackest one … and the one with the most overlooked talent …
    ========================================
    What talent? Being able to put 3 cans of Dax wave pomade on his hair and stand under stage lights without erupting into flames?

  24. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    RZA probably been feeding them less than great beats recently because he hates those mother f*ckas. And I can’t blame him. He brought them to the promised land through his beats: access to money, fame, respect, cars, and women. And then they sh*t on him and say he’s stealing their money. What? Who cares if he is, it’s practically his money anyway.

  25. Bricktop Says:

    dammit!!! Fab/Drama mixtape commercial AGAIN on mtv!!!! just drop the shit already!!

  26. landlord Says:

    “…those who try to flee they hit the vertebrae, increase the murder rate…”

  27. Ajani Says:

    The artwork is off the chain.

    The album will be classic.

  28. &What?! - C.R.E.A.M. Says:

    I forgot how good 36 Chambers is, classic status without a doubt.

  29. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    for every ‘Verbal Intercourse’ there’s a couple of ‘Gravel Pits’. you can deny this if you want.
    ^
    Gravel Pit is crack. I actually put the liner notes from this track in a pipe and was able to smoke it and get high. True definition of the term Flames.

  30. landlord Says:

    “… Check the print, it’s where veterans spark the letterings
    Slow moving MC’s is waitin for the editin
    The liquid soluble that made up the chemistry
    A gaseous element, that burned down your ministry…”

    Duel Of The Iron Mics >

  31. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    just drop the shit already!!
    ^
    ayo/pause/nh

  32. Suvio-Blue Says:

    what are yall talkin bout? i wish cats would stop acting like all the RZA wants to do is make beats, these dudes done mastered hip hop already, now its just for the love of it and the fans…Rza been done moved on to other shit since Wu-Tang Forever back in 97’…OBFCL2 was damn near a classic w/ what maybe 3 Rza tracks on it! this aint the 90’s no more, im sure hip-hop is one of the last things on his mind, cant stay stagnant in one profession, branch out if u can…

  33. hl Says:

    inconsistency = Rza.

    he deserves credit for compiling some Wu masterpieces, but. . . .for every ‘Verbal Intercourse’ there’s a couple of ‘Gravel Pits’. you can deny this if you want.

    —–

    “some” masterpeices? wtf? Nigga had arguably the best 5 year run in the history of hiphop producers. GTFOH. His spot is already solidified if he doesn’t make another beat ever again.

  34. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    For a few years the Wu were like the Bulls in the 90’s. Nobody could f*ck with them. And they got mad b*tches.

  35. landlord Says:

    niggas is gettin thrown off by the wack hook, and the silly video… Gravel Pit was ill …

  36. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    inconsistency = Rza.

    he deserves credit for compiling some Wu masterpieces, but. . . .for every ‘Verbal Intercourse’ there’s a couple of ‘Gravel Pits’. you can deny this if you want.

    —–

    “some” masterpeices? wt*? N*gga had arguably the best 5 year run in the history of hiphop producers. GT*OH. His spot is already solidified if he doesn’t make another beat ever again.
    ^^
    THIS

  37. hl Says:

    “… Check the print, it’s where veterans spark the letterings
    Slow moving MC’s is waitin for the editin
    The liquid soluble that made up the chemistry
    A gaseous element, that burned down your ministry…”

    Duel Of The Iron Mics >

    holy shit that’s dope on paper

  38. landlord Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    For a few years the Wu were like the Bulls in the 90’s.

    ——–

    from 1993 through the Iron Flag CD, the WuTangClan was unfuckwithable …

  39. Bricktop Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out, you are making some outrageous claims. i really wish you would stop, because that’s my M.O. (that means Modu Operatti or some Korean shit like that).

    but to say that Rza brought them to the promised land is redic. you act like he wrote their rhymes, or that he could even ryhme himself. besides U-God & Mastah Killah, all the other members contributed just as much as Rza to the initial success of the Wu. otherwise, we’d include Bobby Digital in the same convo as those other albums you mentioned.

  40. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Ricky Rawse da Boss >>>>

  41. Suvio-Blue Says:

    no time to freeze / undercovers pull up in grand prix
    and sieze / packages / and pocket the currency….

    this jokers in the game to this day that cant touch them bars

  42. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    It’s crazy to think about handing out rice while the price of the watch on your arm could feed an orphanage for a couple months.
    ===================================
    If Ross can continue to inject that kinda depth in his bars, sky’s the limit.
    ^
    Word up.

  43. k1ng Says:

    arn’t this niggas almost 40 too?

  44. landlord Says:

    Eddie House >>>> Ricky Rawsse

  45. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    but to say that Rza brought them to the promised land is redic. you act like he wrote their rhymes, or that he could even ryhme himself. besides U-God & Mastah Killah
    ^^
    bricktop, you ignorant sl*t. RZA can’t rap? His beats weren’t the foundation for every classic Wu album? You sounding foolish right now. F*ck Outta Here…

  46. hl Says:

    but to say that Rza brought them to the promised land is redic. you act like he wrote their rhymes, or that he could even ryhme himself. besides U-God & Mastah Killah, all the other members contributed just as much as Rza to the initial success of the Wu. otherwise, we’d include Bobby Digital in the same convo as those other albums you mentioned.

    —-

    The first Bobby Digital album is ill IMO. Just ahead of its team. I think alot of people appreciate it now more so than when it came out. Also the first gravediggaz album was crazy.

    I agree that all the members contributed. Rza could have never made and album like Cuban Linx, Iron Man, Liquid Swords etc by himself. But you gotta give Rza at least half the credit for providing the perfect sound for niggas to do their thing (nh).

  47. landlord Says:

    “… In mic fights I swing swords and cut clowns
    Shit is too swift to bite you record and write it down
    I flow like the blood on a murder scene, like a syringe
    on some wild out shit, to insert a fiend
    But it was (somethin somethin) stolen art
    Catch a swollen heart from not rollin smart…”

    GZA’s poetic stylings >

  48. Suvio-Blue Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out, you are making some outrageous claims. i really wish you would stop, because that’s my M.O. (that means Modu Operatti or some Korean shit like that).

    but to say that Rza brought them to the promised land is redic. you act like he wrote their rhymes, or that he could even ryhme himself. besides U-God & Mastah Killah, all the other members contributed just as much as Rza to the initial success of the Wu. otherwise, we’d include Bobby Digital in the same convo as those other albums you mentioned.

    ^^
    EXACTLY…he brought beats and they brought ryhmes…Rza aint to lyrical, put u should neva really expect a producer to be, besides that i cant front i love the Rza but he’s kinda corny…they brought all the fly shit, the substance to Wu

  49. D. Billz Says:

    # AmpGeez a.k.a. Smoke Greene Says:
    February 20th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Jets nigga…

    ^Now where haven’t we been yet?

  50. Bricktop Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    For a few years the Wu were like the Bulls in the 90’s. Nobody could f*ck with them. And they got mad b*tches.

    yeah, Mannie Fresh had a similar “run” and achieved a shitload more success. what’s that make him, Bill Russell?

    i’m just saying, you making it sound like w/o Rza there’s no Wu. and i’m saying that Ghost’s/Rae’s/Meth’s rhymes have been 100 fold more consistent than the Rza entire rhyme/production catalouge over the years. so therefore, the 3 wisemen of the group shall prevail w/o the Rza. simple math.

  51. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    A lot of these lyrical monsters lack flow. It always hindered them…it’s essentially what saparted them from Ghost, Rae & Meth…

  52. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    The period between the release of Enter the Wu-Tang and Wu-Tang Clan’s second album is considered to be “the greatest winning streak in rap history.” ^wikipedia

    scratch that, these cats werent the bulls. they were the golden era 20’s yankees

  53. hl Says:

    GZA = Jermaine

    the blackest one … and the one with the most overlooked talent …

    ——

    *just realizes Land said most “OVERLOOKED”, and not “OVERRATED*

    *no longer respectfully disagrees*

  54. landlord Says:

    lets as WuTang stans be honest with ourselves… them Bobby Digital LPs was horrible … a couple songs here and there, but pretty bad overall … SMH… that nigga got renegaded by Big Gipp on Domestic Violence Pt. 2… cmon Abbott, step your rap game up …

  55. Fresh Huxtable Says:

    To me, Method Man was one of the first and best examples of drugs having diminishing returns on creativity to the point where it’s eventually a negative effect. Then when they get off the drugs, you see a gradual rise in skills. See also: Marshall Mathers and pills, D’Wayne Carter and purp.

  56. landlord Says:

    uh-uh DBlock… GZA flow was always in pocket … i see what you saying, but that dont apply to GZA… at all …

  57. &What?! - C.R.E.A.M. Says:

    To me, Method Man was one of the first and best examples of drugs having diminishing returns on creativity to the point where it’s eventually a negative effect. Then when they get off the drugs, you see a gradual rise in skills. See also: Marshall Mathers and pills, D’Wayne Carter and purp.

    ^

    Em on pills > sober Em.

  58. Suvio-Blue Says:

    smh at dudes still talkin bout Rawse, he’s the cardinal sin of hip-hop, fuck if his lyrics is gettin a tad bit better, my guess he aint even writin them…c’mon now dude lied about his life! why would u wanna listen to this mans work…every time i see one of his vlogs it just comes across as phony, his whole image is a joke!

  59. BlackRob Says:

    the word swagger is played out like bling
    smh at white people using it on toyota commericals
    and on espn

  60. hl Says:

    yeah, Mannie Fresh had a similar “run” and achieved a shitload more success. what’s that make him, Bill Russell?

    —–

    A SHITLOAD more success? You sure? I mean, Liquid Swords did go platinum.

  61. Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    yeah, Mannie Fresh had a similar “run” and achieved a shitload more success. what’s that make him, Bill Russell?
    ^^^
    comparing RZA to Mannie Fresh? Come on now, I dont even need a rebuttal to that. You sinkin your own sh*tty argument.

  62. landlord Says:

    Suvio-Blue Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    smh at dudes still talkin bout Rawse, he’s the cardinal sin of hip-hop, fuck if his lyrics is gettin a tad bit better, my guess he aint even writin them…c’mon now dude lied about his life! why would u wanna listen to this mans work…every time i see one of his vlogs it just comes across as phony, his whole image is a joke!

    ————–

    you preaching to the chapel choir…

    i dont fuck with rapping police, period … i dont care how much improvement they showing at the academy …

  63. Bricktop Says:

    His beats weren’t the foundation for every classic Wu album?

    i’m not denying that. i’m also not denying that there’s EASILY as much non-classic Rza garbage out there as there are Rza classics.

    remove the rappers completely from each album:

    36 Chambers: 100% classic production
    Tical: 50% at best
    Return: 75% classic beats
    Cuban: 125% classic beats
    Liquid: 60% classic
    Ironman: 60-75% classic
    Forever: 50% at best.

    and when i say classic (which is what we’re talking about), i don’t mean OKAY shit. i mean fucking classics.

  64. D. Billz Says:

    them Bobby Digital LPs was horrible …

    ^What album was Brooklyn Babies on? Last song I liked by RzA Zig Zag Zig Allah.

  65. Fresh Huxtable Says:

    smh at dudes still talkin bout Rawse, he’s the cardinal sin of hip-hop, fuck if his lyrics is gettin a tad bit better, my guess he aint even writin them…c’mon now dude lied about his life! why would u wanna listen to this mans work…every time i see one of his vlogs it just comes across as phony, his whole image is a joke!

    ^
    what you say has some merit, but how can hip hop grow if people are only limited to rapping about their own lives? You think Nas went through everything he tells from a first person perspective? I think not. Only difference between Ross and all these other cats is that Ross got caught. Also, authenticity doesn’t always equal better music. See: Corey Miller

  66. Suvio-Blue Says:

    why is Em in this convo? dude has NEVER made a classic album, he can rap…i hate comical rap! thats why i really cant get into Ortiz ever tho he can spit!

  67. D. Billz Says:

    *dapz peoples* (no Folks rivals)

  68. hl Says:

    uh-uh DBlock… GZA flow was always in pocket … i see what you saying, but that dont apply to GZA… at all …

    —-

    yep. deck either. mabey rae, ghost, and meth had more lively personalities and that translated on the mic.

    BTW Rza has alot of dope verses IMO. Wu Gambinos, Tearz, 4th Chamber, Domestic Violence. It’s just his flow is kinda love it or hate it. But who cares, its the Rza. The nigga produced like 7 classics back to back. If he wants to write book, do movie scores, and act….more power too him.

  69. D. Billz Says:

    Cosign Fresh Huxtable. That’s why many other mainstream rappers didn’t speak on it (Rawse) because God forbid if THEIR actual fables got revealed too.

  70. Delgado Says:

    Suvio-Blue Says:
    February 20th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    c’mon now dude lied about his life!

    Most rappers lie about their life.

    If most of the tracks match the energy of Meth vs Chef 2, this will be a personal classic for me.

  71. Bricktop Says:

    Blood In, Blood Out Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    The period between the release of Enter the Wu-Tang and Wu-Tang Clan’s second album is considered to be “the greatest winning streak in rap history.” ^wikipedia

    scratch that, these cats werent the bulls. they were the golden era 20’s yankees

    then what does Wiki consider Jay’s run? the equivalent to Tiger’s? yeah, that one too. . .

  72. Suvio-Blue Says:

    February 20th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    smh at dudes still talkin bout Rawse, he’s the cardinal sin of hip-hop, fuck if his lyrics is gettin a tad bit better, my guess he aint even writin them…c’mon now dude lied about his life! why would u wanna listen to this mans work…every time i see one of his vlogs it just comes across as phony, his whole image is a joke!

    ————–

    you preaching to the chapel choir…

    i dont fuck with rapping police, period … i dont care how much improvement they showing at the academy …
    ^^^

    WOW u got that off! well put!

  73. landlord Says:

    ^What album was Brooklyn Babies on?

    ———–

    Digital Bullet… the better one

  74. landlord Says:

    The nigga produced like 7 classics back to back. If he wants to write book, do movie scores, and act….more power too him.

    —————-

    also true

  75. Suvio-Blue Says:

    all im sayin is certain things take ya credibility away…kinna like Kobe Bryant…he was good in my book til he snitched on Shaq, now he’s Hobe and to me he gone stay that way…me personally i neva thought Rawse was nice anyway so that whole issue def sealed the deal for me…

  76. Suvio-Blue Says:

    Suvio-Blue Says:
    February 20th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    c’mon now dude lied about his life!

    Most rappers lie about their life.

    If most of the tracks match the energy of Meth vs Chef 2, this will be a personal classic for me.
    ——–
    yea and hip hop got its own police, bottom line hip-hop and cops dont mix

  77. D. Billz Says:

    # Suvio-Blue Says:
    February 20th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    all im sayin is certain things take ya credibility away…kinna like Kobe Bryant…he was good in my book til he snitched on Shaq, now he’s Hobe and to me he gone stay that way…me personally i neva thought Rawse was nice anyway so that whole issue def sealed the deal for me…

    ^I kinda overstand where you coming from because I am also Co-Founder and Treasurer of the Kobe Haters Club. Raja Bell clotheslining that nigga like Andre the Giant brought joy to my heart. So yeah, I guess your disdain is fair in that sense.

  78. D. Billz Says:

    Speaking of the industry, I heard some ol’ weird shit about Andre Harrell from one of the OG’s last night.

    Stephen Hill status. SMH

  79. pause Says:

    RZA = Bubbles

  80. Ghost Says:

    RZA is the GOAT Wu member. Yall wouldve never heard of any of these guys without RZA. Say Im lying…

    ^THIS. RZA founded the Wu Tang Clan, came up the ideas, put each member to their first solo record deals. Without RZA you would never know who any of these cats are.

  81. Ghost Says:

    That is an absolute fact! Without RZA there is no Meth, Ghost or Chef. They weren’t even thinking about rapping before him. You can’t deny, no RZA no Wu Tang.

  82. undressingHER Says:

    the cover is amazing.

    I’m not a big Wu fan, but my favorite 3 without a doubt are the three listed here. I have never been a fan of RZA.

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