Video: The Ordinary Person’s Guide to Empire State of Mind (Illdoctine)

Jay reflects on Yankee Pride.

Yes! These other people were also deprived of joy, but to a lesser extent! Ha!

Ha ha, so true. You gotta hate New Yorkers.


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205 Responses to “Video: The Ordinary Person’s Guide to Empire State of Mind (Illdoctine)”

  1. Black Brokaw Says:

    Joe88 should pay me $600 a day for the privilege to comment here.
    *****
    8181

  2. Beezy Says:

    coke wavey season

  3. CiCi The Intern Says:

    *hate New Yorkers*

    *touts Philadelphians*

  4. Black Brokaw Says:

    New yorkers are on an island by themselves. Can’t wait until they remove that piece from the Map

  5. b-ease Says:

    Anything but this cornball…dude is the absolute worst.

  6. Black Favre Says:

    this song just aint the same without Lil Mama …

  7. Beezy Says:

    In a half-dozen or so states, insurance companies are allowed to call domestic violence a pre-existing condition and refuse to provide any health coverage to women who are or have been abused.

    ^foul

  8. Black Favre Says:

    b-ease Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    Anything but this cornball…dude is the absolute worst.

    —–

    word… i hate him more than that Rosenberg Nazi …

  9. Joe 88 Says:

    Frankie & Neffe gets paid more than $600 to appear in shitty clubs and drink up everything behind the bar. smfh

  10. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    # eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    >>Young Gunz had the #1 song in the country at one point they deserve more than $1200…dont be stupid all your life

    how am I the stupid one? I’m not the idiot who had a #1 song and then turned around and worked for $600 a night while all the while believing I deserved more, and then crying to Beans about it. nobody put a gun to those guys heads and told them to sign to the Roc, or work for less than what they thought they were worth.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Hov and Dame counting pennies at the office…they was getting $$$ to pay them more….Chris & Neef were 16 when they signed correct?..why wouldnt they sign to the ROC for min wage they too dumb to know about finances Hov and Dame took advantage when they made a #1 rec they deseve some sort of reward…no?…its not like they were grown men like beans who is now crying about money/loyalty/ not schooling him on his business

  11. Beezy Says:

    b-ease Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    Anything but this cornball…dude is the absolute worst.

    ^co-sign, eskay is terrible.

  12. Plug Says:

    You gotta hate New Yorkers.
    ——-
    truer words have never been spokin

  13. cOLD Says:

    You’re still reaching cOLD. In order to be an effective double entendre, there would have to be another veiled reference to acting. There isn’t.

    ^ In the past, Hov has made remarks about Hollywood and acting. Something to the effect of if the script is right, I’m all for it, but I don’t take it [acting] lightly, and would mos def, have to take some acting classes.

  14. Beezy Says:

    if Chris & Neef signed @ 16 they technically were too young to enter into the contract

    their mama prolly had to sign for them

  15. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    _____________________APPLAUD___________________
    applaud smashin new bitches raw for the first time…
    …somethin about when a broad grabs the tool & slides u in, its too late to say no.

  16. b-ease Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    Frankie & Neffe gets paid more than $600 to appear in shitty clubs and drink up everything behind the bar. smfh

    ^^
    There are probably a few unfortunate souls that go to said club to see them tho. NO ONE was going to Hovs show to see the Young Gunz.

    In fact, as someone who saw them while on tour with Jay, I can honestly say that their mini set fucked up the whole vibe.

  17. a tribe called quest Says:

    Red Sox 04 Championship is the greatest world series run ever

  18. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    New Yorkers pretend to be humble
    ^^^^^
    lol

  19. Beezy Says:

    what did the YG do at those shows anyway…4 songs? 5 at most right?

    Thats $150 per song.

    If each song is approx 3min, thats $50 per min.

    Thats more than they deserve

  20. b-ease Says:

    cOLd, I meant references in the actual song, or more specifically, that verse.

  21. eskay Says:

    >>Chris & Neef were 16 when they signed correct?..why wouldnt they sign to the ROC for min wage they too dumb to know about finances Hov and Dame took advantage when they made a #1 rec they deseve some sort of reward…no?

    give me a break. they were being taken advantage of in your opinion. I think they were paid too much. wasn’t nobody coming to them Roc shows to see the Young Gunz. how fucking much you think they deserve a night, let’s be serious here.

    don’t none of you douchebags earn $600 for less than 10 minutes work so I don’t know how ya’ll sitting here raining pity on these dudes like they were in a sweatshop making Rocawear hoodies for 12 cents an hour.

  22. Black Favre Says:

    chris & neef didnt deserve no more than 1200 a show (espeially neef) … them niggas should have been happy just to ride with the Roc, much less get paid … they got to meet Camron and Dame Dash and Beyonce and whatnot in person and everything … they owe Jay money …

  23. a tribe called quest Says:

    ESPN poll shows that the red Sox are the team of the decade wooop woop

  24. Beezy Says:

    like they were in a sweatshop making Rocawear hoodies for 12 cents an hour.

    ^(c) Big Homie

  25. b-ease Says:

    @ Beezy

    Naw, they did two, I think. Couldve been one.

    The point is this, should Hov have given them more? I think so.

    But did they DESERVE more??? Fuuuuuck no.

  26. eskay Says:

    >>they owe Jay money

    that’s what I’m saying, Jay better take them niggas on Judge Judy, I think he has a case.

  27. cOLD Says:

    cOLd, I meant references in the actual song, or more specifically, that verse.

    ^ aight so explain the last line of that bar “this is just what I plan to do”

    he says that right after SAG line.

  28. a tribe called quest Says:

    Shout out to Hov for paying his artist like mexican workers

  29. G7 Says:

    Black Favre Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    this song just aint the same without Lil Mama

    ^lmao

  30. eskay Says:

    and Young Gunz never in their life had a #1 single, kill yourself.

  31. Plug Says:

    …somethin about when a broad grabs the tool & slides u in, its too late to say no.
    ——-
    thats the best feeling in the world. but after the bussing has tookin place, you’ll feel sick to your stomach

  32. b-ease Says:

    a tribe called quest Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    ESPN poll shows that the red Sox are the team of the decade wooop woop

    ^^
    Aren’t you from New York? You shouldve been out last nite tryin to bag a drunken reveler. Instead your repping the most racist major city in the country that I bet dollars to dog shit you’ve never even been to.

  33. Joe 88 Says:

    NO ONE GOES TO A HOV SHOW TO SEE ANYONE BUT HOV. Niggas say it like fans wanna see everyone except the young gunz, like fans go to hov shows to really see the roots, FOH. Smfh

    Ghostface for sure got paid more than $600, and he did a verse
    Foxy Brown got paid more than $600 and she did a verse

    Granted that these 2 acts are “prolly” known on a higher scale than the YG’s, but neither one of them had a #1 single. So someone knows who they are.

    It just seems like a bitch move to me cause I bet beans never got paid only 6, and he never had a hit single period. Those lil niggas acheived more than almost everyone on the roc and prolly got paid the least on tour, smfh

  34. Beezy Says:

    sadly, the peak of Young Chris’ career was the Hot 97 freestyles when he was introduced

    his whole career has been descending

  35. Beezy Says:

    Oschino > Young Chris

    Sparks > Young Chris

    listening to nothing > Young Chris

  36. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    Plug Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    …somethin about when a broad grabs the tool & slides u in, its too late to say no.
    ——-
    thats the best feeling in the world. but after the bussing has tookin place, you’ll feel sick to your stomach

    ^^^
    i think i drank a lil’more in them days…

  37. Joe 88 Says:

    They had a grammy nominated single, name one artist outside of Jay & kanye on the roc that did that?

    Don’t worry, i’ll wait

  38. G7 Says:

    owing your boss money?? lol. what part of the game is that??

  39. eskay Says:

    >>Shout out to Hov for paying his artist like mexican workers

    who are these mexicans that get 600 an hour? because I need to go stand outside with those guys and put in a couple hours.

  40. a tribe called quest Says:

    are ya’ll really making excuses for Hov? my lord..

    A) Motherfuckers had the number one song in the country… that has to count for something

    B) 600$ is shit when you’re trying to portrait an image of riches and hustlers

    Hov is no different than those “evil labels”

  41. b-ease Says:

    ^ aight so explain the last line of that bar “this is just what I plan to do”

    ^^
    it’s a reference to the rest of the rest of the song/verse. He had always planned to be the (camel) goat, and become corporate. He’s already home.

  42. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    NY haters got the lil Town Blues!!
    ===============================
    These little town blues are melting away

    I’m gonna make a brand new start of it in old New York

    A-a-a-nd if I can make it there, I’m gonna make it anywhere

    It’s up to you, New York, New York

  43. Black Brokaw Says:

    Man drop that hov line. If that nigga wants to act let him act. He’s not on any movie set any time soon so what’s it matter? 5 years from now you gonna be like oh shit that’s what he said in that one line on that song…..and its “planned” not plan

  44. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    # eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    and Young Gunz never in their life had a #1 single, kill yourself.
    ^^^^
    correction noted …smh @ myself listening to beans nigg cant even read a billboard chart

  45. eskay Says:

    >>They had a grammy nominated single, name one artist outside of Jay & kanye on the roc that did that?

    oh so Grammys mean something to you now huh?

  46. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # Beezy Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Oschino > Young Chris

    Sparks > Young Chris

    listening to nothing > Young Chris
    ^^^

    *sigh*

  47. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    J J J J J J R

    *adjusts yamaka*

    *plows all of shekels into gold*

    *counts gold bars*

    *stays shtrapped with the kalashnikov*

    *gets sound financial advice from beezy and my accoun’ints*

    *wishes a nicca would*

  48. Zee! Says:

    Kimbo Price > Your favorite mixtape

  49. a tribe called quest Says:

    Aren’t you from New York? You shouldve been out last nite tryin to bag a drunken reveler. Instead your repping the most racist major city in the country that I bet dollars to dog shit you’ve never even been to.

    –I have family there, i lived there for a summer when i was 11.

  50. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    ad

  51. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    if i say my favorite snack is almond joy, does that require a pause?

  52. b-ease Says:

    NO ONE GOES TO A HOV SHOW TO SEE ANYONE BUT HOV. Niggas say it like fans wanna see everyone except the young gunz

    ^^
    If that’s the case you shouldn’t have used the Frankie/Neffie analogy.

  53. a tribe called quest Says:

    >>Shout out to Hov for paying his artist like mexican workers

    who are these mexicans that get 600 an hour? because I need to go stand outside with those guys and put in a couple hours.

    -You know exactly what i mean, he paying niggas the bare minimum. Where they do that at?!

  54. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    if u watch a pr0n and then u think to yourself “cot damn, mr. marcus toe that pussy UP!” … does that require a pause?

  55. Boos Bigelow Says:

    Cold,

    You my nigga…but I gotta ask you..did you take a college english course?…Cause I think subject verb agreement might have escaped you…

    Now these n-gga’s is mad, oh they call me a Camel
    But I mastered the drought, what the fuck i’m an animal
    Half-man half-mammal
    My sign is a Sag, this is just what i planned to do
    Oh don’t be mad

    MasterED the drought as In past tense…and this is what I plannED to do..

    He said he mastered the drought and that he already planned it….He’s speaking of what he’s ALREADY done…hence the song…already home…nothing to with acting at all…

  56. Beezy Says:

    Mr. Damn, He Ain’t Coppin’ That, Is He? Says:

    *plows all of shekels into gold*

    ^Gold was the best investment I ever bought in my life.

    In like 2004 I put a good amt of money in Gold and Silver because I found out Billy Gates was doing it.

    I bought it at like $600 an ounce…shit is about to clear $1100….and it never dipped like the stock market did last year.

    *daps self*

  57. RIGZ Says:

    Hov is no different than those “evil labels”

    ^^^

    I dont see why people cant just admit this & move on.

    Alla them muhfuckas is shiesty, stop making excuses for the guy. If Puff is so shiesty, why cant Jay be.

    In business, its called being “shrewd”. LOL

  58. Joe 88 Says:

    eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    >>They had a grammy nominated single, name one artist outside of Jay & kanye on the roc that did that?

    oh so Grammys mean something to you now huh?

    ^It means these young niggas generated enough of a buzz to even get nominated, something no other artist besides Jay or Yeezy ever did on the roc

    They deserve more than $600 dollars. I don’t give a fuck what no one says, that’s pimping at it’s finest

  59. Black Favre Says:

    G7 Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    owing your boss money?? lol. what part of the game is that??

    ——

    cause them lil niggas should have been cleaning defJam bathrooms … instead of touring first class, appearing in the latest rap videos and drinking expesive champagne and smoking exotic blends of weed and staring at Beyonce when Jay aint looking …

  60. b-ease Says:

    –I have family there, i lived there for a summer when i was 11.

    ^^
    Noted. It’s still a racist piece of shit city tho, lol.

  61. Zee! Says:

    Im over the Hill like Wyclef and Prazwell

  62. a tribe called quest Says:

    Shit even 50 pays yayo, and like he said, errbody from gunit earned atleast 10mill under his watch. Shit buck had that money and blew it on blow and rims, he fucked up. Beans and em never even had a chance to fuck up

  63. Harlem World Says:

    # Mr. Damn, He Ain’t Coppin’ That, Is He? Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    if u watch a pr0n and then u think to yourself “cot damn, mr. marcus toe that pussy UP!” … does that require a pause?

    ^^
    OH SHIT

  64. Beezy Says:

    *spends 4 weeks in Boston*

    *becomes livelong fan*

    *sip semen for breakfast*

    *is Tribe*

  65. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    yall are idiots, rock bands will take a loss to open for a bigger named band just to get their name out there

    niccas will straight up pack their van and perform and get paid $100 that they have to split 5 ways – after you take into account gas and a hotel room, they took a LOSS but it’s looked at as good promotion

    and now people want young gunners to get more than $600 apiece? that’s enough to cover fucking everything! and they get the promo of opening for jay! is yall stupid?

  66. cOLD Says:

    …somethin about when a broad grabs the tool & slides u in, its too late to say no.
    ——-
    thats the best feeling in the world. but after the bussing has tookin place, you’ll feel sick to your stomach

    ^sizzle on both.

  67. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    Beezy Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
    sadly, the peak of Young Chris’ career was the Hot 97 freestyles when he was introduced

    his whole career has been descending
    =============================
    When they had the Roc doing those freestyles there was another kid on those freestyles from brooklyn and i remember he messed up a line and said he was bent and i never heard another verse from him ever. what was his name? i’m surprised he never put out a dis track or something

  68. a tribe called quest Says:

    Noted. It’s still a racist piece of shit city tho, lol.

    –It really is, great place to be on 4th of July weekend.

  69. Black Brokaw Says:

    cold thought he was on to something. I thought you were kidding at first but you kept running with it

  70. RIGZ Says:

    Crazy thing is, Chris still reps the shit outta his Roc Chain LOLOL

    Remember them vids a couple years ago when Chris said he was going up to Def JAm to get his life together? They either put out his shit or he’s leaving the label???

    I bet that bredah is STILL signed & shelved. SMH

  71. Beezy Says:

    Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    When they had the Roc doing those freestyles there was another kid on those freestyles from brooklyn and i remember he messed up a line and said he was bent and i never heard another verse from him ever. what was his name? i’m surprised he never put out a dis track or something

    ^H Moneybags

    “I’m bent up in the spot right now”

  72. a tribe called quest Says:

    Eskay lets to do the math, whats your best guestimate as to how much hov makes in one show? (Not including MSG)

  73. Zee! Says:

    I treat ya’ll niggas like the vagina on Chyna…….

  74. a tribe called quest Says:

    Young Chris won the #randomapperance of the year when he was in that Max B vid talkin shit to jim jones

  75. RIGZ Says:

    SMH@ Me being able to get more money DJing a night, than the Young Gunz performing with Jay-Z

    But if they go back to the block, trying to get their money up, they THEYRE the stupid ones right?? That shits still funny to me. The whole game is a facade.

    Them dudes shoulda pawned their chains a long time ago

  76. a tribe called quest Says:

    i want to know how much J.Cole gets performing in hovs tour

  77. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    *philosophizes from the persp of a smart dumb emo blogger/DJ*

    *expects too much from lil wang*

    *vocalizes my feelings*

    *everyone hugs*

  78. cOLD Says:

    Now these n-gga’s is mad, oh they call me a Camel
    But I mastered the drought, what the fuck i’m an animal
    Half-man half-mammal
    My sign is a Sag, this is just what i planned to do
    Oh don’t be mad

    the word planned and plan, makes all the difference dude. He said Plan, as in future…

    and no my learning came as part of my dedication to the block. Not shitting on school, cause I wish I did go…But you couldnt pay me to back then… College???… Nigga they got twin turbos on the street right now, was my logic.

  79. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    whats your best guestimate as to how much hov makes in one show? (Not including MSG)
    ^^^^^^^
    prob a mill …curtis claims he gets mill a show,yayo and banks get 100k for being a hypeman

  80. Beezy Says:

    J.Cole prob makes $25k a year…he should just go work at McDonald’s, he’d make more

  81. Joe 88 Says:

    RIGZ Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    But if they go back to the block, trying to get their money up, they THEYRE the stupid ones right?? That shits still funny to me. The whole game is a facade.

    ^This

  82. cOLD Says:

    cold thought he was on to something. I thought you were kidding at first but you kept running with it

    ^ I’m still running with it kid… I know my hip hop.

  83. RIGZ Says:

    Young Gunz should sell their plaques

    Real shit.

  84. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    @ Beezy
    Yeah that was his name roffl
    damn I wonder if they murked duke for messing up they cypher. he gave BK a bad look

  85. Mr. Damn, He Ain't Coppin' That, Is He? Says:

    Beezy Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
    J.Cole prob makes $25k a year…he should just go work at McDonald’s, he’d make more

    ^

    *fucking dead*

    *starts blog with beezy where we estimate rappers’ earnings and then provide recommendations as to whether they should continue or fill out an app at wendy’s*

    *gets crazy traffic*

    *retires*

  86. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # RIGZ Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Crazy thing is, Chris still reps the shit outta his Roc Chain LOLOL

    Remember them vids a couple years ago when Chris said he was going up to Def JAm to get his life together? They either put out his shit or he’s leaving the label???

    I bet that bredah is STILL signed & shelved. SMH
    ^^^

    He’s not on Def Jam anymore.

    And yes, he should rep the hell out of that chain because he’s done the right thing since the Roc break-up: kept his mouth shut. Never spits venom at Dame or Jay, even though you know he got some in the chamber. Dude is still close to Jay for that very reason.

    People want to act like the Young Gunz didn’t do shit on the Roc. If you put together a collection of the best songs from the Roc 2000-, the Young Gunz have three easy …

  87. Joe 88 Says:

    Hot Rod and olivia was getting more bread on the road than the young gunz.

  88. Beezy Says:

    B-Ease’s favorite rapper is Geeda K

  89. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay lets to do the math, whats your best guestimate as to how much hov makes in one show? (Not including MSG)

    lets not. it doesn’t matter if he makes a billion per show, them niggas shoulda been happy to have access to the backstage buffet, much less $600 in pocket money. where do hood niggas get off with this sense of entitlement? you know how many starving rappers would pay $600 to just stand on stage at a Hov show?

  90. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    Beezy Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
    J.Cole prob makes $25k a year…he should just go work at McDonald’s, he’d make more
    =========================
    The only difference is J. Cole has a degree to fall back on. (nh)

  91. Boos Bigelow Says:

    I’m convinced cold is playing around…good job dude

  92. RIGZ Says:

    People want to act like the Young Gunz didn’t do shit on the Roc. If you put together a collection of the best songs from the Roc 2000-, the Young Gunz have three easy …

    ^^^

    But they got $600 a show. Obviously their value wasnt seen as high as YOU see it

  93. Boos Bigelow Says:

    Joe88,

    How much should have the young gunz got…Put your business hat on for a min…they ate free, slept in hotels free, got free gear…

    How much should they have gotten per show?

  94. 456 Says:

    i wonder if them niggas really wanted beans to let the world know how much they got paid per show?

  95. RIGZ Says:

    And yes, he should rep the hell out of that chain because he’s done the right thing since the Roc break-up: kept his mouth shut.

    ^^^

    What part of the game is this CiCi???

    Bredahs should just shut the fuck up & not speak their minds? What the fuck is this…

    I wasnt raised like that…My pops would fly where ever I reside & slap blood outta my mouth for acting like that…

  96. eskay Says:

    >>But if they go back to the block, trying to get their money up, they THEYRE the stupid ones right?? That shits still funny to me. The whole game is a facade.

    so youre getting 600 a show, say you do 4 shows in a week, that’s $2400 you just earned for the week with minimum effort on your part. how many of ya’ll earn that? and if you do, and then you still feel the need to go sell drugs, then that’s on you. smh @ this you owe me this mentality. Young Gunz would be working at Foot Action if it wasn’t for Hov.

  97. a tribe called quest Says:

    lets not. it doesn’t matter if he makes a billion per show, them niggas shoulda been happy to have access to the backstage buffet, much less $600 in pocket money. where do hood niggas get off with this sense of entitlement? you know how many starving rappers would pay $600 to just stand on stage at a Hov show?

    –*blank stare* smh its called ethics fam. How you gonna shit on the niggas you share a table with?

    “everybody eats, everybody gotta eat” (c) Ace

    These niggas are passing up education/cocaine deals to make money off music. Fail on them for not negotiating when they had leverage. Fail on hov for shitting on his rappers

  98. Boos Bigelow Says:

    why do people act like just because you’re in the music biz, that you’re caking heavily….The LAST person you want to be if you’re in the music industry is an artist…

    Do people actually think rappers make millions from the start?

  99. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    $600 a show aint bad 4 them niggas back then, they from the hood, back then… thats an Averex a show. thats good money.

  100. Joe 88 Says:

    >lets not. it doesn’t matter if he makes a billion per show, them niggas shoulda been happy to have access to the backstage buffet, much less $600 in pocket money.

    ^smfh. Security gets paid more, and they don’t even do there fucking jobs, (c) lil mama walking right up on hov

    >you know how many starving rappers would pay $600 to just stand on stage at a Hov show?

    ^Yep, zero.

  101. GMLLZ Says:

    Eskay on his humble steez…I guess it would be kind of lame to post an interview about yourself in NahRight Lite.

    http://www.unkut.com/2009/11/non-rapper-dudes-series-eskay-part-1/

  102. Ghost Writer Says:

    one two

  103. b-ease Says:

    How you gonna shit on the niggas you share a table with?

    ^^
    They were the same dinner, but they werent at the same table. The Young Gunz were at the small joint with the fold up chairs on some Thanksgiving shit.

  104. cOLD Says:

    debating a Hov line > debating Younguns pay

  105. TheCo!!inB Says:

    I can’t speak for them niggas but I know I still give music away for free. If you aren’t an established anything you should never fix your mouth to complain about what you think you should get. if you’re a true hustler/entrepenuer (sp) you know you’re not gonna make a real living off your investment for at least 3-5 years. I’da paid my own way to be on that tour. but that’s me. I’m not as nice as Neef *sniff*

  106. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    >you know how many starving rappers would pay $600 to just stand on stage at a Hov show?
    ^^^^^^^^
    LMAO

  107. Joe 88 Says:

    >How much should they have gotten per show?

    ^More than $600 dollars

  108. 456 Says:

    >you know how many starving rappers would pay $600 to just stand on stage at a Hov show?

    ^Yep, zero.

    ^you don’t even believe that. in fact, YOU would up the money immediately.

  109. cOLD Says:

    one two

    ^check one two

  110. Boos Bigelow Says:

    # RIGZ Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    And yes, he should rep the hell out of that chain because he’s done the right thing since the Roc break-up: kept his mouth shut.

    ^^^

    What part of the game is this CiCi???

    Bredahs should just shut the fuck up & not speak their minds? What the fuck is this…

    I wasnt raised like that…My pops would fly where ever I reside & slap blood outta my mouth for acting like that…
    ____________________________________________________________

    This is the music industry and a cut throat one at that…You pop off at the mouth and you’re liable to fuck up your whole career…No one should feel like they have to keep their mouth shut, but one should consider the consequences if they don’t…

  111. 456 Says:

    They were the same dinner, but they werent at the same table. The Young Gunz were at the small joint with the fold up chairs on some Thanksgiving shit.

    ^D-12 can laugh about it. Beans decided to cry.

  112. LondonBloke Says:

    One two

  113. b-ease Says:

    Yea, its not like they got 600 for the whold tour. Niggas did at least 40 shows. That’s almost 30Gs, and considering EVERY thing else was paid for, they couldve stacked that bread and invested.

    Keep in mind, them niggas didnt pay dues. No grind, no major battles, no shows in hole in the wall clubs for 4 years. They went from the block to international essentially overnite.

    Now, I’ll reiterate, could Jay have given them more? Probably. Should he have? I would. DID THEY DESERVE IT?? Fuck no.

  114. a tribe called quest Says:

    its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them

  115. kedordu Says:

    The Blueprint Album… Beans, I’m not trying change you But trying to give you some game on how to make the transition from the streets to the fame

  116. LondonBloke Says:

    Yo Eskay cant get no moderation?

  117. Boos Bigelow Says:

    # Joe 88 Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    >How much should they have gotten per show?

    ^More than $600 dollars
    _______________________________________________________________

    well explain in numbers?

  118. TheCo!!inB Says:

    them two niggas def wasn’t makin 2400 a slanging dope….avg niggas like that make roughly 24k a year selling drugs…..but let’s be honest. Them niggas weren’t selling drugs, just rapping like they did.

  119. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    ^smfh. Security gets paid more, and they don’t even do there fucking jobs, (c) lil mama walking right up on hov
    ===================================
    i wouldve put lil mama in 2 headlocks and bit her ears and fingers if she tried getting on that stage

  120. CiCi The Intern Says:

    RIGZ Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    And yes, he should rep the hell out of that chain because he’s done the right thing since the Roc break-up: kept his mouth shut.

    ^^^

    What part of the game is this CiCi???

    Bredahs should just shut the fuck up & not speak their minds? What the fuck is this…

    I wasnt raised like that…My pops would fly where ever I reside & slap blood outta my mouth for acting like that…
    ^^^

    What I’m saying is that he has every excuse to throw Dame and Jay under a SEPTA trolley but he doesn’t and he hasn’t because what’s the benefit to doing that? Nothing. What’s talking about Jay and Dame going to do for his career?. If you look at the Roc members that have, they all assed out.

    There’s no point to make it your mission to talk about Jay or Dame or Biggs or X or Y or Z. For what?

    At the end of the day, we don’t know the extent of the relationships — business and personal — between Jay and the rest of State Property. Clearly, Chris ain’t got that much of a problem since he still associates himself with Jay and clearly, it’s been to his benefit.

  121. Beezy Says:

    keep 50 rounds where i lay my head

  122. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    Thats a lot for per diem, i had a job years ago and i went out of town and we only got 39.00 a day for per diem….

    also who in the hell u think bought tix just to see young guns, come on man 65.00 tix for the damn young guns to sing cant stop wont stop

    that tour eas 65 dates and if u multi 65*1500, them cats made 97500 for 10 mins of work a night, man them cats made off good, not to mention hotel is free, travel and everything else and they performing in front of 30k plus people every night….

    There is no one here that has split 100k with someone after working 10 mins a night…

  123. 456 Says:

    its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them

    ^sooo how much are you actually paying the young gunz? really…

  124. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    # a tribe called quest Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them
    ^^^^^
    this

  125. Black Brokaw Says:

    you can’t debate what someone deserves.

  126. Joe 88 Says:

    For the short life spand that the YG’z had on the roc, they played there position and then some, niggas made hits, that should count for something, something more than $600 dollars and dame’s old roc chains

    YG’z did more than beans in a shorter time spand, and he got a label and a clothing line

    Did more than Bleek, and he got a label

    YG’z gets nominated for a grammy, and get what? $600 dollars?

    That’s fair to you? Seriously?

  127. eskay Says:

    awwhh, those poor babies had to split $1200 A NIGHT.

    Shame on Big bad Hov for taking advantage of those poor, defenseless thugs.

    somebody get Sally Struthers on the phone…maybe we can get those guys some sponsors or something.

    smh

  128. b-ease Says:

    Beans decided to cry.

    ^^
    And I’ll never see him the same way again. That nigga’s a man-child, was in an acutal promised land, and decided to take over Bentley payments, sip syrup, and shoot niggas in the street over prostitutes instead of getting his shit straight.

    I can admit Hov is snakish, but niggas really cant admit that Beanie is a total fuck up???? That he shoulders at least half the blame in this situation for being said fuck up?? That’s just denial.

  129. LondonBloke Says:

    Moderation!

  130. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    People act like jay was extra close with beans, he didnt even ride in the same tour bus as the clown…see jay listening to classical music in hard knock life tour

  131. Beezy Says:

    Young Guns couldn’t even have filled a 200 seat venue at $5 per ticket…they should be glad for $1200 a night

  132. Boos Bigelow Says:

    Young Gunz…

    1. Slept for free
    2. Ate Free
    3. Got free Gear
    4. Got MAAAAD residual bitches off Hov
    5. Free traveling

    Got an allowance of $600….If Hov gave them 2000 a show…them niggas would have to pay for all the expenses…

    Niggas don’t know busines…they so emotional about music….

  133. b-ease Says:

    What I’m saying is that he has every excuse to throw Dame and Jay under a SEPTA trolley but he doesn’t and he hasn’t because what’s the benefit to doing that? Nothing. What’s talking about Jay and Dame going to do for his career?. If you look at the Roc members that have, they all assed out.

    There’s no point to make it your mission to talk about Jay or Dame or Biggs or X or Y or Z. For what?

    At the end of the day, we don’t know the extent of the relationships — business and personal — between Jay and the rest of State Property. Clearly, Chris ain’t got that much of a problem since he still associates himself with Jay and clearly, it’s been to his benefit.

    ^^
    Preach ma.

    Speaking out when you have something to gain is one thing. Speaking out when you don’t is called whining.

  134. JDS aka Mr. Sippin' On Dat Goo-Punch in His Air Alfie's Says:

    # eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    >>But if they go back to the block, trying to get their money up, they THEYRE the stupid ones right?? That shits still funny to me. The whole game is a facade.

    so youre getting 600 a show, say you do 4 shows in a week, that’s $2400 you just earned for the week with minimum effort on your part. how many of ya’ll earn that? and if you do, and then you still feel the need to go sell drugs, then that’s on you. smh @ this you owe me this mentality. Young Gunz would be working at Foot Action if it wasn’t for Hov.

    ^^

    this only seems logical if what they earned off the tour was equal or greater than that amount. they didnt tour year round.

  135. LondonBloke Says:

    ?

  136. CiCi The Intern Says:

    $600 is a third of my paycheck. You telling me that I can get $600 for rapping on stage for 10 minutes? Negro please … I’m in.

  137. TheCo!!inB Says:

    if I had good music i’d pay 1K to perform before Hov. do that shit without thinkin……….All those potential white customers.?! What?!

  138. Beezy Says:

    YG’z did more than beans in a shorter time spand, and he got a label and a clothing line

    ^they never sold 800k like The Truth did

  139. freeze Says:

    damn eskay, get off hov’s jock. You know he wrong for paying YG’s 600 a show. You act like they touring all year long like the roots. Dudes prolly only doing 30 shows a year. That’s less than 20000 a year. Poverty.

  140. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    I’m tight grill with the phony, rappers y’all might feel we homies
    I’m like still, y’all don’t know me

  141. Ghost Writer Says:

    people will not stop talking about this Beans and camel shit I see….I want to hear another diss from Beans to be honest…..Jay might murder him but still this could get interesting

  142. cOLD Says:

    back in the day niggas would work for free, just to learn the trade… the payment came in the form learning the ropes.

    600 plus openining the doors of the World to 2 young niggas outta Philly is good money.

  143. Black Favre Says:

    The Young Gunz were at the small joint with the fold up chairs on some Thanksgiving shit.

    ——-

    LMAO…

    drinking ace of spades out of cartoon dixie cups …

  144. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    Joe 88 Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    For the short life spand that the YG’z had on the roc, they played there position and then some, niggas made hits, that should count for something, something more than $600 dollars and dame’s old roc chains

    YG’z did more than beans in a shorter time spand, and he got a label and a clothing line

    Did more than Bleek, and he got a label

    YG’z gets nominated for a grammy, and get what? $600 dollars?

    That’s fair to you? Seriously?
    ^^^

    u r real dumb sumtimes, the 600.00 was per diem and thats it, do u know what par diem is?? its money to eat with and for entertainment, by getting a grammy theat allowed them to move more units and they have a record contract in place for that compensation…..how bout we ask beans why everybody from state property said they nvr got paid off the movie, clothes or the album…im sure u all rmbr when they were complaining about that, right?

  145. b-ease Says:

    ^they never sold 800k like The Truth did

    ^^
    No. No, they didnt.

  146. freeze Says:

    “$600 is a third of my paycheck. You telling me that I can get $600 for rapping on stage for 10 minutes? Negro please … I’m in.”

    ^Do you make more than 20000 a year? If so you dont wanna trade with the Young Guns.

  147. silas aka simon Says:

    This is a busines and stupid people get taken advantage of in business thats how it works. What are we all 8 with dreams of grandeur and changing the world, christ.

    Shit i would have paid then zero said it was good publicity then sued afterwards in order to recoup my expenes and why were at it where is my advance oh you dont have it ?? talk to the lawyers on that as well.

    That would be being nice in this shit industry.

  148. JDS aka Mr. Sippin' On Dat Goo-Punch in His Air Alfie's Says:

    its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them

    ^^

    word…

  149. eskay Says:

    >>YG’z did more than beans in a shorter time spand, and he got a label and a clothing line

    what did they do? they didnt’ sell any records and that’s all that matters in the music business. thy certainly didn’t sell more records than Beans.

    any rational person can tell you that $600 a night is more than reasonable for some 3rd string rappers.

  150. CiCi The Intern Says:

    Beans is being a whiny little bitch.

    There, I said it.

  151. cOLD Says:

    Young Guns couldn’t even have filled a 200 seat venue at $5 per ticket…they should be glad for $1200 a night

    ^finance people always use numbers to prove a point. The issue is a moral one fam.

  152. b-ease Says:

    how bout we ask beans why everybody from state property said they nvr got paid off the movie, clothes or the album…im sure u all rmbr when they were complaining about that, right?

    ^^
    Niggas got selective memories.

    Dont yall see, every rapper in history whose fucked up his career has blamed somebody else.

  153. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    Black Favre Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    The Young Gunz were at the small joint with the fold up chairs on some Thanksgiving shit.

    ——-

    LMAO…

    drinking ace of spades out of cartoon dixie cups …
    ^^

    I SWEAR ONE TIME I SAW, I THINK IT WAS XXLMAG AND THEY FEATURED FREEWAY AT A CONCERT AND IT WAS IN A POOL HALL AND THEY WERE LIKE 38 PEOPLE THERE AND THATS IT…NO LIE

  154. b-ease Says:

    Beans is being a whiny little bitch.

    ^^
    I’ve been saying that since jump.

  155. a tribe called quest Says:

    @CiCi

    Did i read that correctly? you gettin $1800 a week?

    whats you’re email, im going to send you a pic of my penis. i always wanted a suga momma

  156. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    cOLD Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    Young Guns couldn’t even have filled a 200 seat venue at $5 per ticket…they should be glad for $1200 a night

    ^finance people always use numbers to prove a point. The issue is a moral one fam.
    ^^^^

    Atleast they went on tour….sh!t hov made dipset stay at home

  157. LondonBloke Says:

    Young gunz couldnt have filled the Superdome during Katrina

  158. TheCo!!inB Says:

    @Joe 88
    what are these alleged “hits” the YG’s made….I keep hearing the term “hits”.

  159. Beezy Says:

    cOLD Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    Young Guns couldn’t even have filled a 200 seat venue at $5 per ticket…they should be glad for $1200 a night

    ^finance people always use numbers to prove a point. The issue is a moral one fam.

    >>what does Jay owe them? They aren’t his brothers.

    Because he signed them to a deal, a business transaction, suddenly they are family?

  160. eskay Says:

    >>its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them

    so the CEO of fucking Apple should pay the guy in China who puts together the ipod $600 an hour because the company is caking? again, you guys live in fantasy land.

  161. Black Favre Says:

    Ghost Writer Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    people will not stop talking about this Beans and camel shit I see….I want to hear another diss from Beans to be honest…..Jay might murder him but still this could get interesting

    ——

    word… i wanna hear him speak on the shit that he said would make Beyonce look at hime sideways, in his words … bringing broads into the beef always heightens the drama and increases the possibility that someone could actually get assassinated

  162. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    JDS aka Mr. Sippin’ On Dat Goo-Punch in His Air Alfie’s Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    its not even about the Young Gunz anymore, paying your employees $600 when you’re making a million per show (at arenas) is strictly pathetic. You supposed to rape the labels not the niggas you in the trenches wit, especially niggas with loyalties as strong as the dumbasses eating the shit you throw at them

    ^^

    word…
    ^^^^

    are u crazy, u think hov was bono back than, making a million a night come on dawg, u have to know jayz was not making anywhere close to that…

  163. CiCi The Intern Says:

    a tribe called quest Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
    @CiCi

    Did i read that correctly? you gettin $1800 a week?

    whats you’re email, im going to send you a pic of my penis. i always wanted a suga momma
    ^^^

    Nah, not a week … a month. I wish though …

  164. Boos Bigelow Says:

    Joe88,

    when you do shows, do you have people pay for your gas, food, and clothes and other expenses?….

  165. b-ease Says:

    The issue is a moral one fam.

    ^^
    Who’s morals? If you want to get down to it, we really dont know exactly what went down. All we have are the testimonies of a pill popping syrup junkie whose clearly broke and disgruntled right now. SP was saying the same shit about him, but did anybody call Beans a snake? No, we laughed at SP for fucking their shot up. Niggas are Camel haters for real. It becomes clearer everyday.

    And I’m not saying the niggas perfect, but men gotta take control of their own destiny, its that simple.

  166. a tribe called quest Says:

    This is like joe88 taking credit for a Nah right post when hes the 16th rapper in a 32 rapper song

  167. b-ease Says:

    Whose > Who’s

  168. CiCi The Intern Says:

    TheCo!!inB Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    @Joe 88
    what are these alleged “hits” the YG’s made….I keep hearing the term “hits”.
    ^^^

    “Can’t Stop, Won’t Stop” was big.

    “No Better Love” was big.

  169. Joe 88 Says:

    If everyone on that tour besides Jay was getting $600 dollars, I would understand, but they prolly wasnt, them niggas didn’t do no more, or less than beanie, or whoever the fuck was with jay around that time.

    Bleek was prolly getting 5 stacks to do the same shit the gunners was doing, even if he did have to pay for living expenses on tour (which he prolly wasn’t) he’d still make more than the gunners

  170. eskay Says:

    >>Because he signed them to a deal, a business transaction, suddenly they are family?

    this is what i’m saying. the rap iindustry is different than any other business? you have to overpay niggas because you’re all from the hood? say word that’s how every record label works.

  171. cOLD Says:

    Because he signed them to a deal, a business transaction, suddenly they are family?

    ^ well according to Roc la familia yes. I’m just playing devils ad though as I’m sure you are too.

  172. b-ease Says:

    Also, you’re an idiot if you think Jay was taking home 1M cash after every show.

  173. Beezy Says:

    All we have are the testimonies of a pill popping syrup junkie whose clearly broke and disgruntled right now.

    ^shit

  174. LondonBloke Says:

    Yo eskay no moderation?

  175. 456 Says:

    word… i wanna hear him speak on the shit that he said would make Beyonce look at hime sideways, in his words … bringing broads into the beef always heightens the drama and increases the possibility that someone could actually get assassinated

    ^beans ethered himself. i predict jay will respond but it will be in his own time, after he’s finished his bp3 breakfast and before lunch.

  176. Black Favre Says:

    TheCo!!inB Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    @Joe 88
    what are these alleged “hits” the YG’s made….I keep hearing the term “hits”.

    ——

    word… after the ‘better love’ joint, which was really a Luther Vandross and the beatmaker’s hit, them niggas was rather ordinary … their first album had a couple joints with a few stellar Roc beats… but thats it …

  177. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    Joe 88 Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    If everyone on that tour besides Jay was getting $600 dollars, I would understand, but they prolly wasnt, them niggas didn’t do no more, or less than beanie, or whoever the fuck was with jay around that time.

    Bleek was prolly getting 5 stacks to do the same shit the gunners was doing, even if he did have to pay for living expenses on tour (which he prolly wasn’t) he’d still make more than the gunners
    ^^^

    He also dropped more albums than them and sold more than them and has more stage time…but say what u say, but bleek is in the top 5 hype men of all time

  178. LondonBloke Says:

    m

  179. Boos Bigelow Says:

    To all the dudes defending Young gunz…

    Apply that same logic to your job…..the ceo of your company is a millionaire or better….ask him why you making 6 dollars an hour and all you can eat?

    Young gunz were minimum wage rappers…just cause you have a hit song, doesn’t mean shit..It’s your worth in dollars and cents…

    Young gunz per diem was 600 dollars a piece…Because that’s how much they were worth…They don’t have enough product out to be worth more than that…this is typical busines…smh at some of you dudes

  180. LondonBloke Says:

    o

  181. Ghost Writer Says:

    Black Favre Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    Ghost Writer Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    people will not stop talking about this Beans and camel shit I see….I want to hear another diss from Beans to be honest…..Jay might murder him but still this could get interesting

    ——

    word… i wanna hear him speak on the shit that he said would make Beyonce look at hime sideways, in his words … bringing broads into the beef always heightens the drama and increases the possibility that someone could actually get assassinated

    ^
    LOL…..maybe that’s why Jay is brushing it of….but nothing worst than beefing with what used to be close friends….that’s when the secrets are revealed and cats feelings get hurt…

  182. b-ease Says:

    Joe88,

    when you do shows, do you have people pay for your gas, food, and clothes and other expenses?….

    ^^
    I’m going to answer that one for Joe.

    No.

  183. LondonBloke Says:

    d

  184. LondonBloke Says:

    e

  185. b-ease Says:

    wanna hear him speak on the shit that he said would make Beyonce look at hime sideways, in his words

    ^^
    As do I.

    But not if its over a shitty beat.

  186. G7 Says:

    >>so the CEO of fucking Apple should pay the guy in China who puts together the ipod $600 an hour because the company is caking? again, you guys live in fantasy land.

    ====
    is comparing Steve Jobs and a Chinaman to Jay and the Young Gunz really fair? thats a bit of a reach.

  187. Mr. Iceberg Slim Says:

    b-ease Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    Also, you’re an idiot if you think Jay was taking home 1M cash after every show.
    ^^^

    Dude jayz just recently started charging crazy money for his concerts and just this year he chareged of the University of Arizona (ASUA), $750,000 to co-headline the event with pop star Kelly Clarkson and thats this year, no way was he charging that 6 years ago

  188. eskay Says:

    >>them niggas didn’t do no more, or less than beanie, or whoever the fuck was with jay around that time.

    Beans had a bigger fanbase then them, and Bleek is Jay’s hypeman, so right there they deserve more than those F-Listers.

  189. LondonBloke Says:

    r

  190. Boos Bigelow Says:

    # Joe 88 Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    If everyone on that tour besides Jay was getting $600 dollars, I would understand, but they prolly wasnt, them niggas didn’t do no more, or less than beanie, or whoever the fuck was with jay around that time.

    Bleek was prolly getting 5 stacks to do the same shit the gunners was doing, even if he did have to pay for living expenses on tour (which he prolly wasn’t) he’d still make more than the gunners
    ______________________________________________________________

    Bleek had products that had already been sold…plus he had seniority in the company…Plus he was the hypeman….meaning he was on stage more than them…

    Bleek was worth more to the company than the young gunz…this is how business works…

  191. JDS aka Mr. Sippin' On Dat Goo-Punch in His Air Alfie's Says:

    so the CEO of fucking Apple should pay the guy in China who puts together the ipod $600 an hour because the company is caking? again, you guys live in fantasy land.

    ^^

    if apple didnt have thousands of fucking employees then fuck yeah…

  192. eskay Says:

    >>is comparing Steve Jobs and a Chinaman to Jay and the Young Gunz really fair? thats a bit of a reach.

    I don’t think it is at all. Use the owner of McDonald’s and the fry guy if that makes you feel better, it’s all the same shit. the boss/owner always eats more than the workers, it’s really not a difficult concept to grasp.

  193. Black Brokaw Says:

    some of you guys could be boxers with thas kind of reach

  194. Boos Bigelow Says:

    # eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    >>is comparing Steve Jobs and a Chinaman to Jay and the Young Gunz really fair? thats a bit of a reach.

    I don’t think it is at all. Use the owner of McDonald’s and the fry guy if that makes you feel better, it’s all the same shit. the boss/owner always eats more than the workers, it’s really not a difficult concept to grasp.
    __________________________________________________________

    Or better yet…popeyes and the batter man

  195. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    # b-ease Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Also, you’re an idiot if you think Jay was taking home 1M cash after every show.
    ^^^^^
    really?…not even in the ballpark of a mill?…it would prob cost me 5 figures just to shake jay-z hand…dude is a huslter he going to get to billion status eventually why 1 million for a show sounds crazy?

  196. Ghost Writer Says:

    This $1200 ain’t as bad as some make it seem….these guys are getting paid to do maybe 10 mins on stage plus promo…I mean that seem fair…plus they get to travel and experience the tour life and getting paid for it….idk yall making it bigger than it is (n)

  197. 456 Says:

    LOL…..maybe that’s why Jay is brushing it of….but nothing worst than beefing with what used to be close friends….that’s when the secrets are revealed and cats feelings get hurt…

    ^beans is in a far worst position in a lot of ways. his drug habit, unruly lifestyle and lack of foresight make him an easy target for jay’s slick talk. he prolly got some shit on jay too.

  198. NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:

    EDIT

    Billionaire status

  199. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    Beans probably couldnt tour outside the USA with his rap sheet so he lost money for that also.

  200. Ghost Writer Says:

    456 Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
    LOL…..maybe that’s why Jay is brushing it of….but nothing worst than beefing with what used to be close friends….that’s when the secrets are revealed and cats feelings get hurt…

    ^beans is in a far worst position in a lot of ways. his drug habit, unruly lifestyle and lack of foresight make him an easy target for jay’s slick talk. he prolly got some shit on jay too.

    ^
    Yeah that’s why I think Jay would win

  201. Boos Bigelow Says:

    Young gunz got 600 in dollar amount…..

    they got…

    1. free traveling
    2. free hotels
    3. Free food
    4. Bitches
    5. Free room service

    All that shit was coming out of Hov’s pockets….some of you dudes did not go to college…

    what more can you ask for?

  202. Boos Bigelow Says:

    # NovemberEnd aka What Do You Mean Teenager What Age Are We Talking About Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    # b-ease Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Also, you’re an idiot if you think Jay was taking home 1M cash after every show.
    ^^^^^
    really?…not even in the ballpark of a mill?…it would prob cost me 5 figures just to shake jay-z hand…dude is a huslter he going to get to billion status eventually why 1 million for a show sounds crazy?
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    We’re talking about the Roc the mic tour…..he def. didnt make 1 mil per show back then…come on now…step your business game up.

  203. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    eskay Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
    >>is comparing Steve Jobs and a Chinaman to Jay and the Young Gunz really fair? thats a bit of a reach.

    I don’t think it is at all. Use the owner of McDonald’s and the fry guy if that makes you feel better, it’s all the same shit. the boss/owner always eats more than the workers, it’s really not a difficult concept to grasp.
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    Something tells me Nate & Dre don’t have cars and are on Foot Patrol. Of course No Shots

  204. Brooklyn Strong aka The Elder Says:

    Boos Bigelow Says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    # eskay Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    >>is comparing Steve Jobs and a Chinaman to Jay and the Young Gunz really fair? thats a bit of a reach.

    I don’t think it is at all. Use the owner of McDonald’s and the fry guy if that makes you feel better, it’s all the same shit. the boss/owner always eats more than the workers, it’s really not a difficult concept to grasp.
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    Or better yet…popeyes and the batter man
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    I see what you did there. lol

  205. Illersz1 Says:

    I HATE this yellow .. journalist !

    Fucking Obama DICK ryder !

    can sum one tell him hes white ..

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