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Video: Irv Gotti Says Jay-Z Is A Better MC Than Eminem

via MTV News:

Irv Gotti came by the MTV offices and spoke to us about the list recently. Although he wasn’t as adamant as Joe Budden was about the list being wrong, IG took exception to Eminem ranking in the top spot.

“I got a thing with Eminem,” Gotti said. “This has nothing to do with the beef. I don’t really feel like I have beef with Eminem. This has no hatred or nothing. This is just my opinion on it. Vibe did a thing, and they had him as the #1 rapper. Sh– like that kinda pisses me off. You know why? Because let’s take Eminem’s records. Watch my analogy. Eminem is a great artist, no doubt. He puts words together, he’s witty, a smart lyricist, a great lyricist. But how can we say the guy is the best rapper alive? Look at Hov. He makes real records. Every one of Eminem’s first singles is some clown shit. He’s clowning. Is that the #1? That’s not my #1 rapper, man.”

Gotti said he also factored in the battle element in deciding that Jay-Z is better than Em. He said that back in the day, Slim Shady wouldn’t have a chance against a young Jay — or DMX and Ja Rule, for that matter.

“No disrespect, you’re a great lyricist, but I come from a school — I know they ‘battled’ in ‘8 Mile’ — but I come from where they battled on the streets with guns out,” the head of Murder Inc. said. “They would have put you under pressure. All that ‘off the top,’ they would have put you under pressure. I been to battles with X, Jay and Ja, that was some real shit. Homie, you wouldn’t been able to survive. These niggas was going with written shit. In your grill. X [would say,] ‘I don’t walk, I stalk, living foul.’ Saying some shit you wouldn’t been able to withstand.”

Gotti said Em would survive in a cipher with the big dogs.

“You would have been like, ‘My name is Em and I eat M&Ms. I eat you.’ What?” IG laughed. He said the Detroit legend would have been greeted with three harsh words: ” ‘Shut the fuck up!’ It would have been a ‘shut the fuck up’ moment off the top. Dame [Dash] would have been like, ‘Look at him. He’s crunchy! He’s wack!’ Then I look at the singles he put out. They’re all good, but they only work for him. I say take Eminem, and let him say ‘Hard Knock Life.’ Still hot. Now let’s have Jay-Z say the ‘We Made You’ song. They would laugh him out the fucking building. … It would be over.”

Irv finished by saying the best rapper alive has to be Jay-Z or Lil Wayne.


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72 Responses to “Video: Irv Gotti Says Jay-Z Is A Better MC Than Eminem”

  1. Hoskins Says:

    ooooohhhh co-tra-versial

  2. Geronimo P Says:

    Can’t argue with his logic, but I think Em would have faired a little better in those battles than he’s giving him credit for

  3. Hoskins Says:

    ooooohhhh co-tra-versial

    ^^^ not

  4. Geronimo P Says:

    Guess who’s bizzack!

  5. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    Irv Just wants back in the sandbox.

  6. chea Says:

    lol irv still aggie

    he’s right tho, em fell the FUCK off

  7. Mag Says:

    Irv Gotti too much Bacardi in his Body mouth like a 12 gauge shotti”

    Butt Hurt*

  8. A tribe called quest aka The Luke Perry of Nah Right Says:

    Let Em hate begin…

  9. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Even Irv Gotti got this one right

  10. chea Says:

    Short shorts have been banned.. unless in a participating in a sporting event that demands shorter shorts. Also no real man should be allowed to pop his collar.

    ^

    *brushes off size small pink polo, creme-colored short shorts with lobster print from j. crew, italian driving shoes, and tom ford shades*

    WHITEBOY WHITEBOY .. OH OH! *bow*

    p.s. these bruno ads is violating the kid’s manhood – somebody shut them shits off

  11. Dre Says:

    # THE-XFACTA Says:
    June 4th, 2009 at 11:17 am e

    Even Irv Gotti got this one right
    _____________________________

    ^This.

  12. wavy is a cliche Says:

    Still Smh at AZ havin his chain tucked on his own album cover

  13. A tribe called quest aka The Luke Perry of Nah Right Says:

    Although i didnt think this was up for debate. I coulda sworn the consensus was that Jay was indeed the better MC

  14. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    is this really supposed to be noteworthy?

  15. chea Says:

    irv rocking the same lame look since early 90s ol potato head ass blicka

  16. geico lizard Says:

    “He said that back in the day, Slim Shady wouldn’t have a chance against a young Jay — or DMX and Ja Rule, for that matter.”

    ^
    When he says Ja Rule he loses some credibility.

  17. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    I Fux Says:

    December 6th, 2006 at 1:00 pm
    Puerto RIcan food is wack you nothing special, no spice, no bread i.e. tortilla, garlic bread, pita bread, something to eat my food with………..I was out there and ate chicken and rice daily

  18. Ted DiBiase Says:

    He said the Detroit legend would have been greeted with three harsh words: ” ‘Shut the fuck up!’

    Umm thats 4 Irv.

    So I guess irv thinks Jay can rap “suck a p*ssy f*ck a p*ssy” and that would be dope, lol @ Irvs life.

  19. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    but lol @ saying Em wouldn’t have a chance against Ja Rule or DMX in a battle

  20. London Bloke Says:

    Help me Name the song:

    Gun up in your face
    Bitch that way we wont miss
    unload the shit then reload the shit
    head straight to the airport and unload some bricks

  21. eskay Says:

    I’m confident that Em could survive anything Ja could.

  22. chea Says:

    When he says Ja Rule he loses some all credibility whatsoever.

    ^

    fixed

    em at any point in his career could eat ja’s ass at any point in ja’s awful career

  23. TheCo!!inB Says:

    “raw dog get your arm gnawed off/take the sawed off and beat you with the piece it was sawed off of”……..not disagreeing with Irving, just Detroit has some ignorant goons too at battles, he’s trying to make it sound like Em came through rap like Asher did.

  24. chea Says:

    zaytoven is coming up as one of the illest in the game, that dude is a beat factory, he make like 10 beats a day for gucci alone, he like a sophisticated version of souljah boy

  25. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    icon Says:

    December 6th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
    Get this lil dude icon out my face, before i spazz out..

    ***Ol Foxy Brown ass nigga

  26. Jersey*made*me Says:

    Irv’s wife said they been split for 7 years.I know that pussy is incredile right now.I don’t see how people go celibate,that shit is retarded.

  27. The marv Says:

    Damn Irv…..I cant really argue with pure logic.

  28. rex hussla Says:

    Every one of Eminem’s first singles is some clown shit. He’s clowning. Is that the #1? That’s not my #1 rapper, man.”
    _______________________________________________________

    somewhat co-sign but that’s just stating the obvious…Irv and Ja have been taking shots at Em forever though, waaaaaaay before they had the “beef” Ja had a way of throwing little shots at him here and there. I remember one summer on MTV when the Inc was at the top, they had the whole Inc there at some poolside party and Ja was drunk as fuck…they were like “and next is Eminem’s video” and Ja was feeling himself a little too much and just started clowning Em saying all sorts of disrespectful shit and they just cut to commercial.

    But by Irv’s logic…imagine anybody trying to sing a Ja Rule song, hook and everything LMAO.

  29. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    Boosie Says:

    December 6th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
    I see we got a lot of new niggas on here,

    Eskay these niggas be talking about cotton swabs and polo moccassins. SHits disgusting b.

    I’m have to put that 88 ethering on some of these cats. Looks like Nah right turned into a chat room again.

    Why aint niggas battling no more? This shit turned into a care bear retreat. Now we got bitches on here, giving niggas S&M tips. Come on b.

    Bugsy, NBmore, Luis, Madden, where ya’ll at? Where’s all the original nahright niggas?

    ^^^
    SHOUTOUT Boos.

  30. People in hip hop (you commenters [not me] included) are stupid Says:

    Was there an analogy in there, or are you stupid?

  31. Jersey*made*me Says:

    chea Says:

    June 4th, 2009 at 11:21 am
    When he says Ja Rule he loses some all credibility whatsoever.

    ^

    fixed

    em at any point in his career could eat ja’s ass at any point in ja’s awful career

    ^
    Ja actually has a great catalogue if you talk about radio hits.

  32. Mag Says:

    Em would destroy any emcee back then the dude was your worst nightmare and able to turn a crowed in his favor…

    Nahggers just love to line up and watch a Giant fall.

  33. Seth Gueko Says:

    I WANT DA EMINEM’s OPINION ON DAT
    PLEASE MTV !!! PLEASE

  34. Paul Coughee Says:

    In ’92 Jay used to run around the city lookin for LL to battle him, cause LL was that dude. Jay used to get pwned, just like when he took an L against GZA. Jay with that fast rap shit would look stupid in a battle. Jay is top 5 of all time, no doubt. BUT NOT #1.

  35. - keka - Says:

    for real.

  36. bigmola88 Says:

    I know niggas getting tired of using Renegade as the litmus test to compare Hov and Em. But you gotta think, the song was originally Royce and Em, Hov listened to the song and heard Em’s verse, put his own verse on there and left Em’s alone, and still took a backseat on his own classic album. So Irv needs to calm his bitter, 2002 valure suit wearing ass down.

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  38. jfoxgotraps Says:

    irv lookin like larry holmes flabby and sick, trying to player hate on ems shit. MAN EAT A FAT DICK.-50

  39. Pjmccarthy Says:

    I forgot that Irv Gotti knows hip hop and music.. Didn’t his stupid label with the worst rappers on it go bankrupt? Ja Rule? Black Child? What? Fuck him man dumb motherfucker.. He doesnt know shit these two rappers are at the top of their game right now and they are both my favorite… Just listen to Renegade.. Dumb motherfucker man..

  40. Big_seth Says:

    NO shit Irv…

    No one takes Vibe serious.

    Em’s good, but better than Jay???

    GTFOH

  41. Jaydon the Don Says:

    irv gotti is about as relevant as super nintendo game genie.

    the nerve of this herb.

  42. kedordu@gmail.com Says:

    @Paul Coughee
    ‘In ‘92 Jay used to run around the city lookin for LL to battle him, cause LL was that dude. Jay used to get pwned’

    I READ THESAME COMBAT JACK POST .. IN THERE THEY SAID JAYZ WON THE BATTLES AGAINST LL COOJ . WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUE STORY IS

  43. Cal Says:

    Irv’s busy trying to suck Jay’s dick so he can get relevant again when dude just went independent. First off Em’s track record from battling and MC’ing etc. cant be disputed its all infront of everybody to check out, this is a dude who studied the art with no other options, not “dabbled with” while selling dope or anything! There’s nothing you can tell Em he hasn’t already heard, how many times has he been thrown and boo’ed off stage? Unlike Asher who only required random co-signs, Em came at a time when the worst thing possible was a white rapper, so Irv needs to chill the fuck out!

  44. kedordu@gmail.com Says:

    @bigmola88
    I know niggas getting tired of using Renegade as the litmus test to compare Hov and Em. But you gotta think, the song was originally Royce and Em, Hov listened to the song and heard Em’s verse, put his own verse on there and left Em’s alone, and still took a backseat on his own classic album.

    IN SONGS LIKE THAT ITS NOT ABOUT WHO GOES HARDER LINE FOR LINE .. ITS A SYNERGETIC THING . JAY FLOWED THE WAY HE DID CAUSE EMINEM FLOWED THE WAY HE DID . THEY SAID THESAME THING FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES . U JUDGE THEM BY HOW WELL THEY PERFORMED IN THIER PARTS . I THINK EMINEM TOOK IT .. WAS NOT A MURDER/ECLIPSE/TOTAL OUTSHINING THING . THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE EMINEMS 2 TOP 10 LYRICS IN HIS CATALOGUE ..

  45. DJ Ron Says:

    co-sign what irv had to say about em. the clowning thing makes it hard to put him on the #1 spot!

  46. ParCitizen Says:

    why must everything have to have an alterior motive to it…”ooh Irv just wants back in the spotlight’ Let’s look at the argument on the table. Do you think Em would’ve “survived” in a real street based battle. Why does it seem like Em leans on the crutch of cartoony shock pop to sell records. No denying he’s one of the greatest lyricists of all time, but Irv brings up some valid points…

  47. the.LIFE Files - “Welcome To Exclusiveness” : Tell Em Irv!!!!!!!!! Says:

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  48. Par-Citizen Says:

    Why does everything have to have an alterior motive. Irv presents a decent argument that has nothing to do with wanting back in the spotlight. Its something I think a lot of people have in their minds, yet we shun it cuz others shun it. But how well would Eminem fair in a NY battle. If he is the supposed G.o.A.T., i don’t see why anyone questioning that is a hater. Irv brings up some good points, why does every single rely on the shock pop factor. No denying his lyricism, but i think Irv brings up a question that’s debatable….no hate involved

  49. Par-Citizen Says:

    yo nah, will any of my comments get thru? seems like anytime i post from work, it goes str8 through. now that i’m in the comfort of my own home, everything is awaiting moderation for hours. it really takes away from my experience which is somewhat being able to add or voice my opinion in a conversation.

  50. bigmola88 Says:

    # kedordu@gmail.com Says:
    June 4th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    @bigmola88
    I know niggas getting tired of using Renegade as the litmus test to compare Hov and Em. But you gotta think, the song was originally Royce and Em, Hov listened to the song and heard Em’s verse, put his own verse on there and left Em’s alone, and still took a backseat on his own classic album.

    IN SONGS LIKE THAT ITS NOT ABOUT WHO GOES HARDER LINE FOR LINE .. ITS A SYNERGETIC THING . JAY FLOWED THE WAY HE DID CAUSE EMINEM FLOWED THE WAY HE DID . THEY SAID THESAME THING FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES . U JUDGE THEM BY HOW WELL THEY PERFORMED IN THIER PARTS . I THINK EMINEM TOOK IT .. WAS NOT A MURDER/ECLIPSE/TOTAL OUTSHINING THING . THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE EMINEMS 2 TOP 10 LYRICS IN HIS CATALOGUE ..
    ^^^^^

    I agree that they both played their roles, and both did so effectively. But I feel as though when Em spit his verses you saw the limitations of Jay’s talent structure-wise. Content-wise the song is masterful in that it juxtaposes the careers and lives of two totally different MC’s but as far as rapping, Jay definitely took an L

  51. Q Says:

    …Wait, people actually care about Irv Gotti’s opinion? When did this happen? Either way, his reasoning is terrible. Em wouldn’t have survived a battle back in the day because he would have been laughed out of the building? Em’s first singles somehow effect his credibility as a lyricist? Don’t even get me started on the irrelevant “hurr durr, I eat M&M’s” or the “durr, we had guns” bullshit. I’m open minded but this is just retarded. Irv Gotti clearly still has a grudge against Eminem so I can’t take his opinion seriously. And for the record, yes, overall I think Jay-Z is a better MC than Eminem.

  52. Grand Master Says:

    “Do you think Em would’ve “survived” in a real street based battle. ”
    ^ he did for years. Infinite was recorded in 95, while Slim Shady LP came out in 99. He was signed to local labels as early as 92. What do you think he was doing for 7 years, hanging around and waiting to make it onto TRL? Don’t forget, the same clubs he was ciphering & battling in coming up [||] were the same joints where Proof got mercked. There’s gunz in NYC (no PETER/CORY), and there’s gunz in detroit.

    “Why does it seem like Em leans on the crutch of cartoony shock pop to sell records.”
    ^ he’s addressed this… infinite came out and cats said he was tryna do Nas/AZ type lyrics… so he flipped his style up and came at it from another angle. With your reasoning, we can ask: why does it seem like Jay leans on the crutch of coke/hustle raps to sell records (and come back to it [AMERICAN GANGSTER] anytime he starts to fade out of the public eye…)?

  53. Tmurphy Says:

    irv has been nothing since 2003

  54. so. Says:

    Man Irv did bring up some GREAT points I mean why are all the other emcees required to think outside the box for a first single but Em gets to stick to the same formula…

    bottom line Jigga is the bigga nigga.

  55. Ron Says:

    No… Irv forgot or don’t know what real battling is….. I don’t know if Em can take Jay out like that….. BUT…. How come everytime they mention Jay and DMX battling…..NO one wants to admit defeat. Obviously there was a room full of people. Each rapper still claims they won to this day. I’m just glad that JayZ/BigL session was recorded. Cause Jay would have claimed he won that one too. In my opinion, battle rappin ain’t shit nowadays. Niggas spend too much time dancing and yelling about how they gun bust. …and damn sure wouldn’t let niggas get all in my face with fitted brims touching each other, fuck that.

  56. chucka Says:

    too bad aint nobody give half a shit about Irv Gotti or his opinions lol

    and please, Irv, let me know how Jay / DMX / Ja did (or would have done) at the rap olympics.

  57. tms Says:

    “Do you think Em would’ve “survived” in a real street based battle. ”
    ^ he did for years. Infinite was recorded in 95, while Slim Shady LP came out in 99. He was signed to local labels as early as 92. What do you think he was doing for 7 years, hanging around and waiting to make it onto TRL? Don’t forget, the same clubs he was ciphering & battling in coming up [||] were the same joints where Proof got mercked. There’s gunz in NYC (no PETER/CORY), and there’s gunz in detroit.

    “Why does it seem like Em leans on the crutch of cartoony shock pop to sell records.”
    ^ he’s addressed this… infinite came out and cats said he was tryna do Nas/AZ type lyrics… so he flipped his style up and came at it from another angle. With your reasoning, we can ask: why does it seem like Jay leans on the crutch of coke/hustle raps to sell records (and come back to it [AMERICAN GANGSTER] anytime he starts to fade out of the public eye…)?

    ——————————————–

    he said it all before i could tell u dumb mutherfuckers off
    stupid bastards

  58. Ken Kaniff Says:

    this guy likes hearing himself talk.

  59. Belize Says:

    if em gave me the nail in the coffin, id be mad 2

    bahahaa

  60. Drissy Aka Pwetti Boi Says:

    Irv says the greatest rapper alive is between Lil Wayne and Jay-Z.

    SO IS IRV SAYING LIL WAYNE WOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO BATTLE WIT JAY AND X N DEM BACK THEN?!

    GTFOH! THE FACT IS EMINEM IS WHITE AND IS SO INSANELY GIFTED IT’S SCARY. WE CAN ARGUE OVER WHO THE BETTER MC BUT ONE THING’S FOR SURE I’VE NEVER HEARD EMINEM GET MURDERED BY ANYONE ON A TRACK

    AND THE DUDE THAT OUTSHINED JAY ON A TRACK IS WHO ELSE BUT EM.

    IRV JUST FOCUS ON BRINGING MURDER INC BACK!

  61. Thirsty Says:

    Nah I agree with irv 1000%…
    yeah yeah he HAD “beef” with Em…hes still right though…
    Back then nobody took Em serious, lets be real, how it USED to be? yeah fuckin right…Thats why everybody in NYC is still stuck tryin to be the toughest out because of that whole era and how Rocafella/Ruff Ryders/Murder Inc came up…I feel what irv is sayin…
    Theres no way Em is in my top 5 list let alone best rapper alive…thats that MTV pop crowd punk shit… hes good and I respect him but the best? smh
    only cats praising Eminem like that was white cats or “backpackers” at 1st….

    @ chucka
    Tell me how all them rap olympic niggas did OUTSIDE them battles…with all that skill?lol…

    @GrandMaster
    Em aint never rhymed in fron of a room full of HUSTLERS throwing big money down like its a dice game, guns out, no rap olympics, just some “my nigga is iller than your man” type shit. Thats PRESSURE! thats also not what Em does, but thats how niggas like X and Jay and Rule came up…and he thinks Em wouldnt have stood a chance…and I dont either…
    you MUST respect that, everything cant be an 8 mile scene…especially back then…

  62. Los Says:

    jay and em have two different personalities… or is this fat fuck too stupid to comprehend? that’s like sayin jay could get up and do some comedy shit. no. em has established his personality as being able to do clown shit and serious shit. so because jay can’t pull that off em is a worse mc? if anything it makes him a better mc

  63. joev Says:

    that vibe thing was a reader voting poll, you can take it serious or not.. as far as irv gotti, he says college is unnecessary, shows you hows smart he is.

  64. GTFOH Says:

    first off, Motor City has some of the most stupidest gun-toting fucks in the USA who will not hesitate to air ur ass out in the blink of an eye. Detroit is the definition of gritty. second, some of the best em tracks IMO: Lose Yourself, Stan(which every one of you still references to this day) Whatever You Say I Am, Cleaning out my closet. none of which feature any of the “clown” shit irving is talking about. third, em in his heyday was a fucking beast, meanwhile around the same time i done heard riggety-jiggety-jay-z was stuttering and losing breath trying to keep up with Big L. ill let you tell it

  65. ceebo25 Says:

    Its funny how DJ Irv went from being in the Game to becoming a Proffesional Side Line Shit Talker.

  66. iStax Says:

    I co-sign to what gotti is saying, his music is some clown shit

  67. elgindotcom Says:

    Irv makes some good points. I still wonder want went through Irvs head with signing this dude named “Newz”.. horri-bull.

  68. Rucka Says:

    In my opinion with straight emceeing battle wise Em would def murk Jay. I heard a new freestyle that em did with westwood that was better then anything ive ever heard jay spit in his entire career. I was actually so shocked at how good it was that i had to stop and take a breather. Em is def the best ever hes done more with hip hop than any other artist. Sold more records then anyone alive right now. 40 million records people thats not even including all the niggas that downloaded the shit. The nigga left for 4 yrs and came back right to the top.

  69. tha strings Says:

    who the fuck is irv gotti?

  70. Billy Kincaid Says:

    Irv still salty about Em dissing him on “Hail Mary” tsk tsk…

  71. the great zeee Says:

    shot the fuck up irvin with the gat out

  72. the great zeee Says:

    oh and by the way. EM would crush DMX in a battle

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