Video: Curtis: “You Can’t Call [DTR] A Flop Under Any Circumstances”

When asked about the first-week sales of Deeper Than Rap, Ross’ biggest detractor in the music biz, 50 Cent, wondered if the numbers were somehow flubbed by the record company.

“I didn’t get an opportunity to hear his record, but a lot of freak [SoundScan] numbers come out of the Def Jam system,” 50 said with a grin.

…But even Fif didn’t agree with some of his fans that the Ross record was a flop.

“I think it can be a disappointment to the system, based on how much of an effort and money they spent marketing,” 50 explained. “But you can’t call a #1 [album] a ‘flop’ under any circumstances. It’s still #1.”


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100 Responses to “Video: Curtis: “You Can’t Call [DTR] A Flop Under Any Circumstances””

  1. herbal kint Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:
    April 30th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    damn … if i say somebody sucks im a racist …

    if i say a joint is good … im on the payroll …

    can i live and breath on my own accord ? … please ?

    just one time? …

    now i know how poor Eskpay feels …

    …. I was gonna say that last sentence until you said it lmao @ you still taking shots calling him eskpay …

  2. jimmy valentime Says:

    Check

    Time

    Back n forth

  3. R.J.Orion Says:

    herbal kint Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
    I just ended up a whole jimmy valentine vs. roth mixtape what sing am I supposed to be checking for ?

    ————–

    ” Its Yo’ Tiiiiiiiiiiime ….”

  4. 911 Says:

    I just ended up a whole jimmy valentine vs. roth mixtape what sing am I supposed to be checking for ?

    ^>What in the sam hell…? Fuck you trying to do, make me dyslexic with you? Whatever song him and land was referring too. smh & lol.

  5. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    SMH.

  6. R.J.Orion Says:

    ^^^

    the irony is, despite me not being a fan at all, your recording is very professional.

    ————

    LOL @ the lefthanded compliment

  7. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Jimmy Valentine do you have a manager or security?

    ^^lmao. THIS muthafucka. Oldhead tryin to make some extra wonga! I’m not mad at that, get your hustle on old man. *daps*

    LF : I saw De La Soul last night and they tore the fuckin building down. 2 weeks ago EPMD, last night De La Soul.

    I’m sayin. Old Heads > New Jacks

  8. jimmy valentime Says:

    I am a fool I lived my life on a stage

    I tried to make magic when the pen hits the page

    I try to play it cool and not let the emotions rage

    But I know my time is more valuable then minimum wage

    I am like wayne

    I have a hard time tellin a good track from a bad one

    I need people to act as my ear more then any thing

  9. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    I am a fool I lived my life on a stage

    I tried to make magic when the pen hits the page

    I try to play it cool and not let the emotions rage

    But I know my time is more valuable then minimum wage

    I am like wayne

    I have a hard time tellin a good track from a bad one

    I need people to act as my ear more then any thing

    ^
    stop.

  10. herbal kint Says:

    that time tracks is pretty dope * daps jimmy *

    @ 911- zshare.net/audio/589154707cbee434/

  11. R.J.Orion Says:

    zshare.net/audio/589154707cbee434/

    ^^^yo ty … if you havent found it yet^^^

  12. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    Jimmys beat brings back Gangstar Memories

  13. jimmy valentime Says:

    I do a lot of my own engineering

    But I do use a studio in les called sound mercy studios

  14. R.J.Orion Says:

    yeah jimmy … dont write the lyrics … let the zshare speak for itself …

  15. 911 Says:

    if i say a joint is good … im on the payroll …

    ^>damn sun, never thought you’d take something I said and extrapolate it into that. I guess.

    Nahright rule # 87163721 States:(and I’m paraphrasing here) … fam don’t use fam in hidden darts intended for others.

    LOL.

  16. Micheal Tyson aka admiration is the farthest thing from understanding Says:

    BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    Marbury gonna hit the game winner
    ======================
    *Aries Spears Jay-Z laugh*

  17. herbal kint Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:
    April 30th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    zshare.net/audio/589154707cbee434/

    ^^^yo ty … if you havent found it yet^^^

    …. I found it shit is actually really good ….

  18. R.J.Orion Says:

    BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    Jimmys beat brings back Gangstar Memories

    ———-

    or early slum village or common

  19. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Lmao at ya niggas….

    bwahahahahahaaa

  20. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    did he produce that!? fuck outta here.

    if he didnt produce that, then there is nothing to that song – no hollowtips.

    this.is.fact.

  21. 911 Says:

    Chrisette Michele FTW.

  22. R.J.Orion Says:

    911 Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    if i say a joint is good … im on the payroll …

    911 says

    ^>damn sun, never thought you’d take something I said and extrapolate it into that. I guess.

    ———-

    nah Brethren … there was no extrapolating with bad intentions intended towards you … that was broad based sarcasm directed moreso at the masses who think i generally hate on everyone …

  23. D_Block_4_life Says:

    I wanna go to the store but i don’t wanna get up…

  24. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    londontomk.com/2009/04/30/grim-reapa-serbian/

    this white boy spits better than asher roth, bubba sparxx and valentime combined.

  25. jimmy valentime Says:

    @ rj

    cool .I understand what you sayin

    The hookand track are from the yauncy boys album

    ..
    This and back n forth are the start for the next. Mix tape ~album

    I am put out

  26. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    Random note:

    I would fuck the shit out of whitney from Eastenders, i think she got a fatty for a white girl.

    *clicks on bbc iplayer*

  27. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    anybody know any good Kid Daytona or J.Cole tracks or mixtapes I could check out.
    Kid Daytona or J.Cole >>> C hamilton, Drake

  28. R.J.Orion Says:

    Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    londontomk.com/2009/04/30/grim-reapa-serbian/

    this white boy spits better than asher roth, bubba sparxx and valentime combined.

    ——————

    true

  29. 911 Says:

    Repost.

    Englandrep said: 911. You used to be a worthy adversary mate but somewhere along the line all those anal muscle relaxant poppers you’ve been sniffing must have dulled your mind (y). You can spray your little lysol can but what you really need to do is go get your stomach pumped. You’re almost going in to the ‘lost cause’ bin. smh.

    ^>*In full english accent*
    If I didn’t believe me’self to be havin’ the chat with a gay squire, whose all over the gaffe maybe you’d merit a retort. But this has been done over. I’m bloody knackered at beating the dead horse. Wanker.

  30. EnglandRepresent Says:

    @Erep

    911 Says:
    April 30th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    ^^I seen that comment already fella but the gay innuendo therein made me scroll past with the quickness.

    And I’m issuing you a yellow card 911, ‘FTW’ is a banned acronym due to its proclivity of being homo.

  31. 911 Says:

    daps land. seen.

  32. the shooter Says:

    What the hell did I walk into

    *sees Jimmy has fans now*

    swine flu is taking over the world

    Yup the end is near.

  33. jimmy valentime Says:

    The mix tape on my site was made by one of my friends I liked it so much I put it up ….

    Got songs on it from all over the place though

  34. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    ^>*In full english accent*
    If I didn’t believe me’self to be havin’ the chat with a gay squire, whose all over the gaffe maybe you’d merit a retort. But this has been done over. I’m bloody knackered at beating the dead horse. Wanker.
    ^
    *dead*

    i love the fact everyone thinks we either talk like a cockney or speak like the queen.

  35. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    3 people clicked on that whiteboys freestyle.

    who co-signs tht hes better than roth then? cos imo he is, i know RJ is on board (none).

  36. jimmy valentime Says:

    Peace everybody

    Ill keep working on it ….

  37. 911 Says:

    And I’m issuing you a yellow card

    ^>AYO! I will not be taking or recieving anything from you. No fucking homo. Trying to talk to me in gay code or some such I bet. II.

  38. the shooter Says:

    jimmy valentime Says:

    FTW

  39. R.J.Orion Says:

    oh come on … i didnt say dude had reached the mountaintop and was ready for World Tours andd VH1 Honors specials … i just said his recent joint was kinda fly …. y’all making it like im sticking Jimmy Valentime posters on telephone poles all over the country … he still has more work to do and im sure he’d be the first to admit it … but “iFux”(copywright) with that last song, “Time” …

  40. Voltron Says:

    @TommyG Anti-pork-market-Fox News resists name change of ” swine flu” to H1N1, May consider calling it immigrant or Obama flu. http://bit.ly/Rqy86 half a minute ago from Tweetie

    ———-

    Despite Government Name Change, Experts Say Flu Strain Still Swine
    While the U.S. government and now the World Health Organization are taking the swine out of “swine flu,” the experts who track the genetic heritage of the virus say it smells like swine flu to them.

    No matter what you call it, leading experts say the virus that is scaring the world is pretty much all pig.

    So while the U.S. government and now the World Health Organization are taking the swine out of “swine flu,” the experts who track the genetic heritage of the virus say this: If it is genetically mostly porcine and its parents are pig viruses, it smells like swine flu to them.

    Six of the eight genetic segments of this virus strain are purely swine flu and the other two segments are bird and human, but have lived in swine for the past decade, says Dr. Raul Rabadan, a professor of computational biology at Columbia University.

    A preliminary analysis shows that the closest genetic parents are swine flu strains from North America and Eurasia, Rabadan wrote in a scientific posting in a European surveillance network.

    “Scientifically this is a swine virus,” said top virologist Dr. Richard Webby, a researcher at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. Webby is director of the WHO Collaborating Center for Studies on the Ecology of Influenza Viruses in Lower Animals and Birds. He documented the spread a decade ago of one of the parent viruses of this strain in scientific papers.

    “It’s clearly swine,” said Henry Niman, president of Recombinomics, a Pittsburgh company that tracks how viruses evolve. “It’s a flu virus from a swine, there’s no other name to call it.”

    Dr. Edwin D. Kilbourne, the father of the 1976 swine flu vaccine and a retired professor at New York Medical College in Valhalla, called the idea of changing the name an “absurd position.”

    The name swine flu has specific meaning when it comes to stimulating antibodies in the body and shouldn’t be tinkered with, said Kilbourne, 88.

    That’s not what government health officials say.

    “We have no idea where it came from,” said Michael Shaw, a director of laboratory science for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Everybody’s calling it swine flu, but the better term is ‘swine-like.’ It’s like viruses we have seen in pigs, it’s not something we know was in pigs.”

    On Wednesday, U.S. officials not only started calling the virus 2009 H1N1 after two of its genetic markers, but Dr. Anthony Fauci the National Institutes of Health corrected reporters for calling it swine flu. Then on Thursday, the WHO said it would stop using the name swine flu because it was misleading and triggering the slaughter of pigs in some countries.

    Another reason the U.S. government wants to ditch the swine label is that many people are afraid to eat pork, hurting the $97 billion U.S. pork industry. Even the experts who point to the swine genetic origins of the virus agree that people can’t get the disease from food or handling pork, even raw.

    “Calling this swine flu, when to date there has been no connection between animals and humans, has the potential to cause confusion,” Chris Novak, chief executive officer of the National Pork Board, said in a news release.

    One top flu expert, doesn’t like the swine flu name either, but for a different reason. Traditional swine flu doesn’t spread easily among people, although this one does now, said Dr. Paul Glezen, a flu epidemiologist at Baylor University.

    Columbia’s Rabadan said sometimes when he talks to other scientists, he uses the name “swine” or the name “Mexican flu.” And that name only adds another case of political incorrectness.

    Mexico Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said it’s wrong to call it “North American flu” and flatly rejects the idea of calling it “Mexican flu.” He pointed to WHO information that the swine genes in the virus are from Europe and Asia. Rabadan and others say four of the six pure swine genetic markers are North American.

    “I don’t think it’s fair for someone to blame Mexico for this. You can’t blame any country; you can’t blame a person or an institution. The recombination of genes in the virus is something that happens naturally,” Mexico’s chief epidemiologist, Miguel Angel Lezana said Wednesday.

    And while the U.S. government and WHO are dropping “swine flu” as the name, someone hasn’t told their Webmasters.

    On Thursday afternoon, the phrase “swine flu” was still in the Internet addresses for the WHO, Homeland Security and CDC pages on the disease and the question-and-answer page on the U.S. government’s pandemic flu Web site.

    ^^^

    ONLY RAY ALLEN CAN STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    remember click the name bitches – UK STAND UP!!!

    *gets The Inbetweeners up SkyHD Planner*

    *daps room*

    1

  42. Voltron Says:

    @TommyG Anti-pork-market-Fox News resists name change of ” swine flu” to H1N1, May consider calling it immigrant or Obama flu. bit.ly/Rqy86 half a minute ago from Tweetie

    ———-

    Despite Government Name Change, Experts Say Flu Strain Still Swine
    While the U.S. government and now the World Health Organization are taking the swine out of “swine flu,” the experts who track the genetic heritage of the virus say it smells like swine flu to them.

    No matter what you call it, leading experts say the virus that is scaring the world is pretty much all pig.

    So while the U.S. government and now the World Health Organization are taking the swine out of “swine flu,” the experts who track the genetic heritage of the virus say this: If it is genetically mostly porcine and its parents are pig viruses, it smells like swine flu to them.

    Six of the eight genetic segments of this virus strain are purely swine flu and the other two segments are bird and human, but have lived in swine for the past decade, says Dr. Raul Rabadan, a professor of computational biology at Columbia University.

    A preliminary analysis shows that the closest genetic parents are swine flu strains from North America and Eurasia, Rabadan wrote in a scientific posting in a European surveillance network.

    “Scientifically this is a swine virus,” said top virologist Dr. Richard Webby, a researcher at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. Webby is director of the WHO Collaborating Center for Studies on the Ecology of Influenza Viruses in Lower Animals and Birds. He documented the spread a decade ago of one of the parent viruses of this strain in scientific papers.

    “It’s clearly swine,” said Henry Niman, president of Recombinomics, a Pittsburgh company that tracks how viruses evolve. “It’s a flu virus from a swine, there’s no other name to call it.”

    Dr. Edwin D. Kilbourne, the father of the 1976 swine flu vaccine and a retired professor at New York Medical College in Valhalla, called the idea of changing the name an “absurd position.”

    The name swine flu has specific meaning when it comes to stimulating antibodies in the body and shouldn’t be tinkered with, said Kilbourne, 88.

    That’s not what government health officials say.

    “We have no idea where it came from,” said Michael Shaw, a director of laboratory science for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Everybody’s calling it swine flu, but the better term is ’swine-like.’ It’s like viruses we have seen in pigs, it’s not something we know was in pigs.”

    On Wednesday, U.S. officials not only started calling the virus 2009 H1N1 after two of its genetic markers, but Dr. Anthony Fauci the National Institutes of Health corrected reporters for calling it swine flu. Then on Thursday, the WHO said it would stop using the name swine flu because it was misleading and triggering the slaughter of pigs in some countries.

    Another reason the U.S. government wants to ditch the swine label is that many people are afraid to eat pork, hurting the $97 billion U.S. pork industry. Even the experts who point to the swine genetic origins of the virus agree that people can’t get the disease from food or handling pork, even raw.

    “Calling this swine flu, when to date there has been no connection between animals and humans, has the potential to cause confusion,” Chris Novak, chief executive officer of the National Pork Board, said in a news release.

    One top flu expert, doesn’t like the swine flu name either, but for a different reason. Traditional swine flu doesn’t spread easily among people, although this one does now, said Dr. Paul Glezen, a flu epidemiologist at Baylor University.

    Columbia’s Rabadan said sometimes when he talks to other scientists, he uses the name “swine” or the name “Mexican flu.” And that name only adds another case of political incorrectness.

    Mexico Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said it’s wrong to call it “North American flu” and flatly rejects the idea of calling it “Mexican flu.” He pointed to WHO information that the swine genes in the virus are from Europe and Asia. Rabadan and others say four of the six pure swine genetic markers are North American.

    “I don’t think it’s fair for someone to blame Mexico for this. You can’t blame any country; you can’t blame a person or an institution. The recombination of genes in the virus is something that happens naturally,” Mexico’s chief epidemiologist, Miguel Angel Lezana said Wednesday.

    And while the U.S. government and WHO are dropping “swine flu” as the name, someone hasn’t told their Webmasters.

    On Thursday afternoon, the phrase “swine flu” was still in the Internet addresses for the WHO, Homeland Security and CDC pages on the disease and the question-and-answer page on the U.S. government’s pandemic flu Web site.

    ^^^

    ONLY RAY ALLEN CAN STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. 911 Says:

    i love the fact everyone thinks we either talk like a cockney or speak like the queen.

    ^> I blame erep for always perpetuating that…oh and hollywood. But mainly erep.

  44. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    remember click the name bitches – UK STAND UP!!!

    *gets The Inbetweeners up (none) on the SkyHD Planner*

    *daps room*

    1

    ***fixed.no homo yadigg.

  45. D_Block_4_life Says:

    1

  46. AmpGeez a.k.a. AG Da Gooseman Says:

    On Thursday afternoon, the phrase “swine flu” was still in the Internet addresses for the WHO, Homeland Security and CDC pages on the disease and the question-and-answer page on the U.S. government’s pandemic flu Web site.

    ^^^

    ONLY RAY ALLEN CAN STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ==============================
    ROFL!

  47. Voltron Says:

    CAMDEN STAND UP!

    and not where Earl is from.

  48. 911 Says:

    Is willing to bet swine flu is, well this version anyway is about 95 percent man manufactured and orchestrated.

    Isn’t saying swine flu like saying a womans girl?

    *We got emails about taking classes for foreign disease and whatnot by such and such date, like a month and a half ago…smh. The game stayed rigged. *

  49. clocksuckaz Says:

    fif is a cuddly bear. someone feed him hard drugs and send him in ross` direction

  50. lea Says:

    “I think it can be a disappointment to the system, based on how much of an effort and money they spent marketing,” 50 explained.
    ^^^^
    the album is trash. but “I think it can be a disappointment to the system, based on how much of an effort and money they spent marketing,” 50 explained.” 50 said the same thing about Kingdome Come!

    # R.J.Orion Says:
    April 30th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Sean Coonery Says:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    Is the Bulls – Celtics series The Greatest Series of All TIME?

    ———–

    nigga please … its just the first round …

    i guess you forgot the Bulls vs NYKnicks … or LALakers vs Sacramento Kings … or Detroit Pistons vs Chicago Bulls … or i could go on and on …
    ^^^^^
    i blame that loss on big baby that was a STUPID foul!

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