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DJ Toomp: “Valley Of Death Was For Jay-Z”

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via MTV News:

“I built an empire so crazy down here,” DJ Toomp said via cell from Atlanta. “Me and some of my other producers are putting our heads together. I been doing it for 22 years all by myself. At the end of last year, I decided to go round up some producers — we all put our heads together on that joint and that’s what it was. “They brought [a rough version of the ‘Valley of Death’ beat] to me and I ended up fattening it up,” Toomp, credited as the record’s producer, explained. (Kevin “Khao” Cates co-produced.) “I heard the whole idea and originally I was gonna give that to Jay-Z, believe it or not.”

A mutual friend of Ross and Toomp’s convinced the producer to let the Big Boss hear the track before Hov, and Toomp caught Ross’ ear during a listening session at his house… “He played a few joints off the album to show me what direction he was going and immediately I knew what to give him based on what’s on his playlist. He started mumbling ideas. I knew he was going in the right direction.”

One of the last steps to finishing the song was getting the hook down. “The singing with the lady’s voice — everybody thinks that’s a sample, nah,” Toomp clarified. “That’s a woman that sings on a lot of Snoop’s sh–. The way we EQ’ed it sounds like a sample, but nah. It has a few strikes behind it. That’s just a person singing on the mic — it just has that effect on it.”

Mary J. Blige was originally considered to sing the chorus. “I heard that too, man,” Toomp said of the rumor. “I didn’t know what happed to it. In some way I wanted to work with Mary — that would have been great, man, to know I got Mary J. on one of my tracks.”

This is the smart move. Drew & Inf did the same thing for Mr. Carter:

“..told him we had ‘found’ this crazy sample we ‘flipped’ and he needed to hear it, lol. I’m pretty sure he still thinks it’s a sample to this day.”

Previously: Rick Ross – Valley Of Death


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89 Responses to “DJ Toomp: “Valley Of Death Was For Jay-Z””

  1. AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don't Fail Me Now Says:

    Jay wouldn’t have known what to do with it.

  2. SNORT_SNORTCRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    Big Homie Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
    cuz ur bref stank

    ^ *Chases your dog with a wok*

    ^^^
    U racist ass nigga. lol.

  3. Huh? U Gay 2.0 Says:

    its a dope beat nonetheless…Ross did alright on it..

  4. The Shooter Says:

    Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
    The Shooter Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
    BabyD I got something I wanna put in your mouth, it starts with the letter D and ends with the letter K, can you guess what it is?

    ^^^
    DUCK

    ^
    I was thinking drink but I like the sound of duck.

  5. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    Valley of Death = HEAT

  6. The Shooter Says:

    Dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    The Shooter Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
    BabyD I got something I wanna put in your mouth, it starts with the letter D and ends with the letter K, can you guess what it is?

    ^a drink? Yeah, I am thirsty…or duck? Is it something dark?

    ^
    Yeah a dark drink.

  7. The Shooter Says:

    Never heard Valley of death,

    *looks for link somewhere in the post*

    *clicks on every word*

    Damn Dre no link..

  8. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    Damn I hate baseball I have to take my youngest son to practice and it’s like watching paint dry

  9. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    LaToyia Williams

  10. R.J.Orion Says:

    BIG strong says

    My meaning is if Asher offeneded you don’t support him and if you question Eskays handling of the matter why support his site? I’ve marched with Sharpton and Sonny Carson on Race issues and this is not that kind of issue. Some talk about it while others do something about it it’s mostly 2 to 3 dudes on here that seem overly bothered by it. Why don’t you dudes get together and do something about it. (And i don’t have to say No Homo cause that shit is gay)

    ———–

    DUDE …

    what part of reading dont you comprehend ? …

    my whole point is eskay should have ignored the shots or respond more eloquently and mature like …

    fuck the racial implications …

    all my comments are directed at eskay PERCEIVING people to be snakes, because they dont side with him on this polarized issue …

    i could care less about that nobody, asher roth … he’s an average MC, is all i know … no one here knows or cares about his true racial views, and I for one could care less … black is black and white is white … and whenever you mix the two, trouble will ensue … so i dont trip over racism, i just call it when i see it, and i keeps it moving … that is, unless someone wants to stop me and do something about it …

  11. el feces loco Says:

    damn monkey see monkey do niggas?

    I cant even play kickball alone wid BBD over here

    *takes his own balls and throws them over the fence into BBD’s yard*

    *hops the fence*

  12. The Shooter Says:

    BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    Damn I hate baseball I have to take my youngest son to practice and it’s like watching paint dry

    ^
    But damn that’s your son.

  13. el feces loco Says:

    LITTLE WEAK > BIG STRONG

  14. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    Valley of Death >

    best beat of 2009 so far.

    this.is.fact.

  15. R.J.Orion Says:

    BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    Damn I hate baseball I have to take my youngest son to practice and it’s like watching paint dry

    ————–

    sounds kinda selfish

  16. Dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight Says:

    el feces loco Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    damn monkey see monkey do niggas?

    I cant even play kickball alone wid BBD over here

    *takes his own balls and throws them over the fence into BBD’s yard*

    *hops the fence*

    ^*giggles and continues playing hop scotch*

  17. - keka - Says:

    valley of death, is ok. cool beat.. think jay would of def. done it justice.. its just an ok song to me… ??

  18. Dre Says:

    # The Shooter Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm e

    Never heard Valley of death,

    *looks for link somewhere in the post*

    *clicks on every word*

    Damn Dre no link..
    ________________________________________

    “Previously” added.

  19. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    Yes it’s my son that why I have to take him

  20. Danielson a.k.a. I love a pretty bitch but my Range looks gorgeous Says:

    Never heard Valley of death,

    *looks for link somewhere in the post*

    *clicks on every word*

    Damn Dre no link..

    ^
    GOAT Rick Ross song, you need it in your life (none)

  21. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    # AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don’t Fail Me Now Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Jay wouldn’t have known what to do with it.

    –Smh… Word cause rick ross got tons of creativity.. say word amp

  22. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    points out how the Euro has tanked vs. the dollar since then, and Childress may have lost so much money from that reality that he could have made more staying in Atlanta.

    Those Euros that were such an asset last summer might not feel so great now …

    However, at the time this all happened, Childress’ agent Jim Tanner told me something that seemed pretty smart at the time, but really smart now.

    Childress’ contract is in dollars.

    Which has the effect of locking in the magically good exchange rate from the moment the contract was signed. It also means that now that the dollar is much stronger than it was, if Childress spends his own money in Europe (he gets a ton of stuff, including housing, provided by the team) now it’s all on sale for him.

  23. The Shooter Says:

    Dre Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    # The Shooter Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm e

    Never heard Valley of death,

    *looks for link somewhere in the post*

    *clicks on every word*

    Damn Dre no link..
    ________________________________________

    “Previously” added.

    ^
    You the man Dre (no homo)

  24. Skrong Taper: The Line-Up Prince Says:

    YO, does anyone here fuck with Deodato?

    I first heard dude when Lupe sampled this joint (tinyurl.com/3scvc9)and I’ve since gathered 9 of his albums.

    Shit is DOPE.

  25. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    *typical hiphop hyperbole’s it up on gp*

    Valley of Death = top10 alltime song from South Artist

  26. The Shooter Says:

    Thanks

  27. AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don't Fail Me Now Says:

    I’ve marched with Sharpton
    ==================
    Like that holds any weight.

  28. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    Damn I hate baseball I have to take my youngest son to practice and it’s like watching paint dry

    ————–

    sounds kinda selfish

    ===========================
    Selfish would be if I didnt take him I support all his sports. Do you have children

  29. The Shot Clock aka mouzone in a joe clair era Says:

    i cant believe people listen to rick ross

  30. - keka - Says:


    Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    *typical hiphop hyperbole’s it up on gp*

    Valley of Death = top10 alltime song from South Artist ”

    u cant be serious??? -u must be from up north or something…

  31. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    forbes.com/2009/04/24/billionaire-heiresses-to-watch-business-billionaires-wealth_slide.html

  32. AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don't Fail Me Now Says:

    –Smh… Word cause rick ross got tons of creativity.. say word amp
    =========================================
    But how many times have we gheard Hov over this kinda beat?

    Been there, done that.

    Sides, the tone of Ross’s voice meshes well with this track.
    Perfect match.

  33. Big Homie Says:

    wvec.com/news/downloads/clubencorefedindict.pdf

    WOW they got the papers

  34. Dre Says:

    – keka – Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:31 pm e

    u cant be serious??? -u must be from up north or something…

    __________________________________________

    re-read this:

    *typical hiphop hyperbole’s it up on gp*

  35. R.J.Orion Says:

    Big Strong says

    Do you have children

    ——-

    one of them is at the table, in his booster seat eating vegetable soup and crackers whilst i type … whats your point? … and i wouldnt compare ANYTHING he enjoys doing to “watching paint dry” … when my son is happy, im happy …

  36. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don’t Fail Me Now Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    I’ve marched with Sharpton
    ==================
    Like that holds any weight.

    ===================================
    Naw it dont hold any weight sharpton is not my black leader we agreed on something and I helped out. But he showed me who he really was when some of my people needed his help after they supported him.

  37. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    thanks Dre

  38. The Shot Clock aka mouzone in a joe clair era Says:

    I’ve marched with Sharpton

    ^^

    FAIL

  39. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    … when my son is happy, im happy …
    ^^^^
    I dont think this works for girls right?

    lmao kidding

  40. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    The Shot Clock aka mouzone in a joe clair era Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
    I’ve marched with Sharpton

    ^^

    FAIL

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    *diddybops with Fidel*

    *fucking dead*

  41. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    “Keep it trilla, nigga never had a gun and badge” – Officer William ‘Rick Ross’ Roberts, Valley Of Death

  42. The Shooter Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:

    and i wouldnt compare ANYTHING he enjoys doing to “watching paint dry” … when my son is happy, im happy …

    ^
    I gotta co-sign this

  43. Charles Oakley Says:

    Juelz Santana – Rumble Young Man Rumble
    zshare.net/audio/5932663241b8ac7c/

  44. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    FUCK Yo Ive been on the sands of Puerto Rico and I marched with FROGS NIGGA FROGS…..

  45. big_seth Says:

    # Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    *typical hiphop hyperbole’s it up on gp*

    Valley of Death = top10 alltime song from South Artist
    ^^

    Ol’ Best 50 cent diss by a southern artist this year with a dope ass beat on a pretty damn good album by a fake thug who named himself after a real drug lord lookin ass nigga.

  46. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
    Big Strong says

    Do you have children

    ——-

    one of them is at the table, in his booster seat eating vegetable soup and crackers whilst i type … whats your point? … and i wouldnt compare ANYTHING he enjoys doing to “watching paint dry” … when my son is happy, im happy …
    =======================================
    So if lil R.J wanted to dance Ballet or something that you didn’t enjoy watching would you really enjoy yourself.My son plays 3 sports and Boxes I like watching the other 3 he joined baseball to give it a try i’m at every practice and every game andi do enjoy him but baseball is a boring sport so the game itself isnt fun to me.

  47. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    We nah is happy, sleeps girl is happy

  48. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    Charles Oakley Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    Juelz Santana – Rumble Young Man Rumble
    zshare.net/audio/5932663241b8ac7c/

    ^^^^^^^
    dope track …… when he actually could spit

  49. geico lizard Says:

    Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
    forbes.com/2009/04/24/billionaire-heiresses-to-watch-business-billionaires-wealth_slide.html

    ^
    Guys out there are trying to get these women pregnant to reverse trap them, rofl.

  50. R.J.Orion Says:

    Ive marched with Sharpton

    ————–

    before or after Tawanna Brawley … nigga please …

    al sharpton ? …

    this nigga said al sharpton …

    not al rodriguez, or al pujols …

    nigga said he “marched” with Sharpton …

    all marching does is wear out shoes … you must be 60 years old …

    ol “i have a dream” lookin ass nigga

  51. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    Ol’ Best 50 cent diss by a southern artist this year with a dope ass beat on a pretty damn good album by a fake thug who named himself after a real drug lord lookin ass nigga.

    ^^^^^^^
    LMAO

    Ive marched against the anti-abortion coalition nigga, pro-choice’d it up. Now I am missing an eye due to fat white woman gouging

  52. big_seth Says:

    # Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    FUCK Yo Ive been on the sands of Puerto Rico and I marched with FROGS NIGGA FROGS…..
    ^^

    LOL.

  53. Charles Oakley Says:

    Ol’ Best 50 cent diss by a southern artist this year with a dope ass beat on a pretty damn good album by a fake thug who named himself after a real drug lord lookin ass nigga
    ^
    cosign

  54. Jersey*made*me Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    I’ve marched with Sharpton
    ==================
    Like that holds any weight.

    ^^
    Sucka ass niggas always trying to shit on Al,but best believe when 5-0 put that billy club on niggas personally or hit em with some slugs over a cell phone and Al shows up to ride for them,they’ll get it.SMFH.Niggas.

  55. R.J.Orion Says:

    c’mon Genius … i wouldnt let my son join ballet (would you let yours?)… im the parent … i make his decisions for him, until he can fend for himself, or pay me enough cash money to influence me otherwise …

    this MY house …

  56. big_seth Says:

    One time I marched for breast cancer

    SAVE THE TITTIES!!

    GO BOOBS!!

  57. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    I went to Disneyland with my daughter, her and I MARCHED WITH DONALD DUCK NOT MICKEY NOT MINNEY BUT DONALD, QUACK QUACK NIGGA!!!!!!!!!

  58. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    big_seth Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    One time I marched for breast cancer

    SAVE THE TITTIES!!

    GO BOOBS!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(c)Monche

  59. big_seth Says:

    I’ve also marched for pussy & dome, but thats because I was in highs chool & didn’t have a car to go to ol’ girls house.

  60. R.J.Orion Says:

    i marched with Stephon Marbury in his protest against Mike D’Antoni and the NY Knicks …

    i marched all the way to Boston … then i marched to the playoffs with Stephon … while Quentin Richardson and David Lee kick summertime rocks …

  61. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    some of those heiress billionaires money couldnt save them from the ugly stick

  62. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    big_seth Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    I’ve also marched for pussy & dome, but thats because I was in highs chool & didn’t have a car to go to ol’ girls house.

    ^^^^^^
    *dies*

    I MARCHED WITH QUADRAPELIGICS ….PEOPLE ON THE SIDELINE YELLING “GO HEAD GO HEAD”

  63. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    I marched with DAME DASH MUSIC GROUP.

  64. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    big_seth Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    One time I marched for breast cancer

    SAVE THE TITTIES!!

    GO BOOBS!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(c)Monche

    –LMAO @ SAVE THE TITTIES ROFL

    BD should be ya’ll spokeswoman

  65. R.J.Orion Says:

    i marched against the release of “808 & Heartbreaks” …

    but BIG STRONG, KANYE WEST and AL SHARPTON were marching in the other direction, so i lost …

  66. big_seth Says:

    # Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    some of those heiress billionaires money couldnt save them from the ugly stick
    ^^

    bitched lookin like they went on a snow trip & Sunny Bono’d into the whole damn ugly tree.

  67. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    bitched lookin like they went on a snow trip & Sunny Bono’d into the whole damn ugly tree.

    ^^^
    lol bitches look like they Marched For Ugly and won the Ugly Olympics

  68. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    I marched with Ja rule during the 50 beef

    I marched with Jay the same day Ether dropped

    I marched with bol when the doctor told him he has prostate cancer

  69. R.J.Orion Says:

    i marched during March Madness …

    i have no idea who won the tournament …

  70. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    I marched with sleeps girl

  71. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    I MARCHED WITH MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING, 40oz of OE in my hand. DRINKING AND MARCHING IS A OK!!!!!!!!!!!

  72. The Shooter Says:

    What’s the point of marching? I hate walking, that’s why I bought a car.

  73. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    I marched with sleeps girl

    ^^^
    Did you push her wheelchair? Ol girl nice with the kick, pushhhhhh

  74. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    I marched for the release of max b

  75. R.J.Orion Says:

    i marched during the “March Of Dimes” because i thought there would be hella fine women marching with me …

  76. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    My Car has a setting called “MARCH” immediately my car goes to 2.5mph and STILL DRE comes on full bore.

  77. BIG STRONG AKA Mr. Duck Ass Nigga Exposer Says:

    Naw you marched in the Gay pride parade i got to go to practice but we’ll Holla later.

  78. The Shooter Says:

    I marched with the penguins

  79. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    R.J.Orion Says:

    April 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    i marched during the “March Of Dimes” because i thought there would be hella fine women marching with me …

    ^^^^
    you win…. *marches with Jesus and Allah*

  80. D. Billz Says:

    # AmpGeez a.k.a. Pimpin Don’t Fail Me Now Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Jay wouldn’t have known what to do with it.

    ^ Co-disdain.

  81. R.J.Orion Says:

    i marched during the whole Month of February … so i could spend the whole month of March honoring the word march …

  82. big_seth aka Bruce Bamma Says:

    # R.J.Orion Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    i marched during the “March Of Dimes” because i thought there would be hella fine women marching with me …
    ^^

    LMAO

    one time I ghost marched the whip.

    & then popped trunk to keep it bamma

  83. Farouq (ya thats my government) aka Nah’s Ving Rames in Baby Boy Says:

    one time I ghost marched the whip.

    & then popped trunk to keep it bamma

    ^^^^^
    WOOOOOOOOOO. I Marched it in June did my taxes in July

  84. D. Billz Says:

    iMarch

  85. D. Billz Says:

    I once marched from 9th to 133rd in Manhattan.

    I was broke.

  86. nation Says:

    >> i marched with Stephon Marbury in his protest against Mike D’Antoni and the NY Knicks …

    did your ankles buckle?

  87. nation Says:

    i marched during the Ides of March, trying to get at Caesar. alas, Brutus land beat me to the punch

  88. iStax Says:

    Fuck Dame Dash!!!!

  89. 40 Inc Says:

    I marched a lil too late hmmmmm

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