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Video: This Is Jim Jones Preview (Chapter 4: Top of The Roc)

Chapter 4 breaks down Dipset’s tenuous relationship with Rocafella’s kingpin, Jay-Z.

In the film’s climactic moment, the story (from Jim’s point of view) behind Cam’s megahit “Oh Boy” is told. The “Oh Boy” beat (by Just Blaze) was allegedly intended for Jay-Z, and the “H to the Izzo” beat (by Kanye West) was originally bought by Cam’ron. According to the film, Kanye backtracked and gave his beat to Jay. Cam’ron then took the “Oh Boy” beat and murdered it (with Juelz), so Jay decided to jump on it with a feature. Cam heard Jay’s verse, deemed it wack, and made sure it didn’t see the light of day. According to Dame Dash, Jay then made moves to separate himself from his Harlem label affiliates (in addition to allegedly not letting them put their records out and not signing off on their budgets).

Writeup of all the chapters @ DrJays.com

Jim Jones: Fucking Kanye. Sells us a few beats. We watching the BET Awards, Jay-Z is about to perform his new single. He gets up there and it’s the beat that we bought from Kanye. That would be H-To-The-Izzo. So now we’re steaming. Just Blaze had the beats laying around−that was Jay’s beat−Cam says “shut the fuck up, we taking it.” And he blazed the Just Blaze beat. That was ours. Strong armed. Good looking Just Blaze.

Beatwise: Oh Boy > H To The Izzo.

If I heard H To The Izzo unexpectedly on the radio, I’d change the station. Yes I liked it then but nowadays it’s ehh. Oh Boy on the other hand still gets a listen.

…I completely forgot Jimmy use to direct the Dipset videos, wow.


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39 Responses to “Video: This Is Jim Jones Preview (Chapter 4: Top of The Roc)”

  1. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    2 Things

    1. I bet the verse was doper than cams, but cam didnt want to get renegade’d. Also no matter how bad Jays verse could’ve been it couldnt have been worst than Juelzs verse

    2. Oh boy was a fucking horrible song after a weeks worth of listens (That week in the summer tho > )

  2. A tribe called quest aka Bitch, Im the space invader Says:

    Beatwise: Oh Boy > H To The Izzo.

    –False

  3. b-ease Says:

    Oh Boy, as well as Hey Ma, still sound dope to me. Two of NY’s last great radio records.

  4. Hoskins Says:

    Jay and Kanye won. The niggas in this video lost

  5. ant Says:

    jada and styles-the people>>

  6. Danielson a.k.a. Dat Mixed Race Nigga Says:

    Hoskins Says:

    April 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    Jay and Kanye won. The niggas in this video lost

    ^
    bob’s right.

  7. Dre Says:

    2 Things

    1. I bet the verse was doper than cams, but cam didnt want to get renegade’d. Also no matter how bad Jays verse could’ve been it couldnt have been worst than Juelzs verse

    2. Oh boy was a fucking horrible song after a weeks worth of listens (That week in the summer tho > )

    _______________________

    1. true

    2. yea it got played out

    thats why i said beatwise.

  8. borngod allah Says:

    Peace ,the blackman is god talk about that. Fuck dipsticks

  9. KellEl Says:

    Oh Boy > H To The Izzo.

    ^Co-fruityloop

  10. PHENOMENON Says:

    1. I bet the verse was doper than cams, but cam didnt want to get renegade’d. Also no matter how bad Jays verse could’ve been it couldnt have been worst than Juelzs verse

    ^ ^
    I believe you.

  11. city hampton Says:

    nah ESKAY i think you might be mistaken it was the bet awards that was the year…jay bought snoop and tha eastsidaz and nelly on stage for “i just wanna love you” then he dropped “h to the izzo” but anyway i think would have fucked that beat up anyway jay crushed it and i couldn’t hear jay on “oh boy” its crazy all them niggas was going thru some shit

  12. EnglandRepresent Says:

    I’ve never fucked a fat bird. Something I think I’ve missed out on. As much as you can miss out on fucking fat birds I guess. But everytime I see a little chubby tubby mistress I think I want to fuck her. I’m not talkin massive rolls with the gut hanging out the top of the pants. Not that fat, just a little chubby. I think I need to fuck a tubby girl. This is my mission statement.

  13. PHENOMENON Says:

    Ok, so Cameron had it deleted because it would have leaked to the internet.

    That would make me think that it was pretty good and he didn’t want people to hear it so he could say it was wack.

    And now I’m supposed to take Jimmy’s word for it?? The aggyest n*gga on earth?? Fu*k outta here, DUKE!!

  14. wavy is a cliche Says:

    gilbert arenas lives?

  15. PHENOMENON Says:

    I’ve never fucked a fat bird. Something I think I’ve missed out on. As much as you can miss out on fucking fat birds I guess. But everytime I see a little chubby tubby mistress I think I want to fuck her. I’m not talkin massive rolls with the gut hanging out the top of the pants. Not that fat, just a little chubby. I think I need to fuck a tubby girl. This is my mission statement.

    ^ ^
    Put it on your Bucket List.

  16. Big_seth Says:

    I love both, but H to the Izzo >>> Oh Boy.

    Oh Boy don’t get repeat like HOVA does.

    but still

    KILLA

  17. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Put it on your Bucket List.

    ^^Good point. Do big girls have big minges?

  18. sleep AKA I lOVE MY GIRL Says:

    If jay really wanted “oh boy” beat do u think he couldn’t take it.I can’t believe anything out of this guy mouth.

  19. sleep AKA I lOVE MY GIRL Says:

    When did just blaze stop working with cam?

  20. CHOPPERS SUIT Says:

    damn stop ridin jays dick man ever time i get on the internet jim jone na na ass say shit bout jay z nigga please you was in the club singing h to the izzo so nigga you like oh bitch ass nigga cam better get his cocky socky get by the mocky pocky rappin ass on some where dame oh broke dirty ass nigga niga get ya cake up every thing you do never sell but when you put kanye on and kanye a hoe doin you like that but i would never follow yo broke dirty ass

  21. Digital scales Says:

    Lol@sleep i love my girl

  22. PHENOMENON Says:

    If jay really wanted “oh boy” beat do u think he couldn’t take it.I can’t believe anything out of this guy mouth.

    ^ ^
    “Oh Boy” may have been intended for Jay do you really think Jay would have took it if Just Blaze played it for him?

    I doubt it.

    I think time has shown that the things that come out of Jim Jones’ Henson’s mouth are all based on his female angst for Jay-Z and his bromantic lust for Dame Dash’s affections and will spew out all kinds of cockamamie banter to defend his honor. [ll]

  23. anons aka brother mouzone in a joe clair era Says:

    wow…two things we learn from that

    1. Cam’s swagger carried Dipset

    2. Jay made a deal with the devil and threw his whole damn fam under the bus

  24. PHENOMENON Says:

    Put it on your Bucket List.

    ^^Good point. Do big girls have big minges?

    ^ ^
    If minges are what I think they are. . .

    Yes.

  25. Digital scales Says:

    i like slim chicks but 4’11-5’3 130-145 is sexy as fuck

  26. anons aka brother mouzone in a joe clair era Says:

    Not that fat, just a little chubby. I think I need to fuck a tubby girl. This is my mission statement.

    ^^

    to me thats like sayn u wanna fuck a milf…i had a chance to fuck a milf not too long ago…but like a fat girl, when you get in close to them and the reality of havin to lay hands on ’em sets in, its abort mission time.

  27. PHENOMENON Says:

    wow…two things we learn from that

    1. Cam’s swagger carried Dipset

    2. Jay made a deal with the devil and threw his whole damn fam dead weight under the bus

  28. Danielson a.k.a. Dat Mixed Race Nigga Says:

    I’ve never fucked a fat bird. Something I think I’ve missed out on. As much as you can miss out on fucking fat birds I guess. But everytime I see a little chubby tubby mistress I think I want to fuck her. I’m not talkin massive rolls with the gut hanging out the top of the pants. Not that fat, just a little chubby. I think I need to fuck a tubby girl. This is my mission statement.

    ^
    always fuck the lil chubby ones with the pretty faces.

    its a damn shame too, cos your thinking ‘if only you could lose the weight, you’d be prettier than the slim chick i was bangin last week’

    oh and no they dont have big pussies

  29. Micheal Tyson Says:

    is it so hard to believe jay only wanted to be on the “Oh Boy” after the record became a radio smash hit..is it so hard to believe Jay catching feelings after CamRon the new addition the roster would dare delete a verse from Mr.GodMC basically telling him it wack after Jay fronted on Cam and the Dips by not being in the video and making Dame beg him to get into the studio with Cam to record “Welcome To New York City” so people don’t speculate that Hov didnt approve of the Dipset signing…im glad i ended my stannery of Hov by 2000 cuz this nigga is a broad and i dont even like Cam/Dipset music nor do i respect them on the street level getting chased around their own park being out numbered in Harlem shit makes no sense how niggas are more deep then you in your own fucking playground

  30. PHENOMENON Says:

    always fuck the lil chubby ones with the pretty faces.

    its a damn shame too, cos your thinking ‘if only you could lose the weight, you’d be prettier than the slim chick i was bangin last week’

    oh and no they dont have big pussies

    ^ ^
    Yea, actually the more rotund girls are tight.

  31. EnglandRepresent Says:

    I heard fat girls have got big gashes. Fuckin one of them is like throwin a sausage down the hall way. Doesn’t even touch the side. Nahggers who have previously fucked fat birds, can you confirm or deny? Billz?

  32. PHENOMENON Says:

    I could see how Hov didn’t want to sign DipSet.

    I wouldn’t have. Hov probably didn’t take them serious and wasn’t feeling them for The Roc.

    If I were Jay I wouldn’t have been in any of their videos either.

    Seriously, imagine Jay-Z in a DipSet video or being seen with them hanging out or something. He’d look lost and out of place. Honestly, no disrespect to DipSet but I’d say to myself “The fu*k is Jay-Z doin’ hangin around with these corny ass n*ggas??”

    My guess is that he simply out grew Damon and the rest of them. Dame was still being. . .well. . .Dame and Jay’s steeze was starting to evolve and started to see things in a different light than them

    That’s my guess from the outside looking inand what I have heard. That’s what I would have done

  33. samsohn Says:

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JIM JONES (o yeah he was in camron’s shadows)

    directing videos?? is this dudes serious?

  34. Thomas Says:

    Why would Jay want to be in Cam/Dipset’s video….Cam was shooting shots at Jay on “Let Me Know” (circa 2000) I believe. When Dame gave Cam “VP of the Roc” Jay said it was premature and he doesn’t dislike Cam….he’s an “earner”. <<<< that’s the definition of sonning someone.

  35. Opus Dei Says:

    Not for nothing wat made the Roc so ill was exactly wat Dame said …them niggas had every fan base covered ….This nigga Jay went and mad Roca Fella into a 1 man show believe it or not i think Kanye saved him from lookin like a totally idiot…business wise Dame been pushin the Label Jays moves was to straight spit thats it…fuck it niggas destroyed the best dynasty ever over dumb shit

  36. spirit equality Says:

    strong-armed just blaze? LOL. yeah right. if that’s the case, why can’t they get beats from him any more? LOL.

    the h to the izzo beat and the oh boy beat are about equal in my eyes. h to the izzo samples the jackson five, for f-ck’s sake. you can’t go wrong.

    it would be funny if this little fairy tale made just blaze go back to rapping and he ethered jenny jones with some inside info shit. just probably recorded a lot of their convos in bassline just in case some f-ckery like this happened. LOL.

  37. KING BLAIR Says:

    If Dame handled his business better and wasn’t so impulsive the Roc would still be strong. How can you expect Jay just to embrace dudes that are basically Dame’s crew and not feel like that is a power move against the family. Dame shoulda discussed that VP stuff wit Jay 1st, but for him to get it second hand is suspect. Dame never put the kinda effort into the other artists than he did the Dips so SAGGIN was all aggy

  38. GMZ Says:

    word, i forgot that jimmy directed vids too…maybe thats where his future is in the game…behind cam…my bad, behind the CAMera…its certainly not behind the mic

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