Melanie Fiona ft. Busta Rhymes & Raekwon – Give It To Me Right (Remix)

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  1. anons Says:

    Jay still spits raps about dealin..how fuckn lame is that…this nigga is packaged,
    man

    The GOAT to me has to show evolution in skill and content…

  2. Eastern_Digital Says:

    flippin a line / recyclin >>> citing to “pay respect”

  3. PHOENIXXX Says:

    word on the e-streets is CNN will be on A-List Radio tonight with DJ E-Nuff

    and Slaughter House will be there too

    oh yeah. it’s about to be crazy tonight. Corniega got some explaining to do

  4. Gravity Says:

    @ OWWW ,

    just cause someone created something, does not make them the best at it !! (c) IBM. what i’m saying is it’s really impossible to say LL is even close to top 5. He did his thing but he ain’t no where near GOAT status. the irony that he coined the term GOAT is hillarious though…

  5. Carlos Voltron Says:

    Eskay what the hell?

    You know you need to include a pic of shorty so we can evaluate.

  6. PHENOMENON Says:

    # anons Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Jay still spits raps about dealin..how fuckn lame is that…this nigga is packaged,
    man

    The GOAT to me has to show evolution in skill and content…

    ^ ^
    Name one person who’s shown more evolution than Jay. Jay has shown evolution with every album.

    Even with his random demo joints from ‘88. [Classic by the way]

  7. A tribe called quest Says:

    word on the e-streets is CNN will be on A-List Radio tonight with DJ E-Nuff

    and Slaughter House will be there too

    oh yeah. it’s about to be crazy tonight. Corniega got some explaining to do

    –Whats the beef

  8. anons Says:

    >>would you be sayin that if he wasn’t all black Brad Pitt right now?

    i dont know what that even means.

    ^^

    becoming a staple in elite circles, wifing the baddest broad, livin off his glory days and puttin out vapid predictable content,

  9. kevfresco Says:

    Carlos Voltron Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    Eskay what the hell?

    You know you need to include a pic of shorty so we can evaluate.

    ^^^
    yea man. who melanie is?

  10. Mr.Dean Says:

    Rapper Joe Budden’s long anticipated sophomore album Padded Room arrived on the charts this week at No. 42. After seven days in stores, Budden’s second disc sold 13,900 copies.

  11. Gravity Says:

    eminem has more hits than Jay….Jay has hits….em has HITS

    ^ proof ? *waits*

  12. Mr.Dean Says:

    Wow I thought Budden would do at least 20k?

  13. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # OWWW Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    PHOENIXXX Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
    # OWWW Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    PEOPLE Don’t UNDERSTAND What G.O.A.T Status Iz Really
    LL COOL J teenager’s platinium status and credibility
    LL COOL J has classic tracks with lyrical content, dope ish
    LL COOL J created RapNB joints for all these new cats

    ^^^
    what was the last LL album you bought? honestly?

    what was the last L record that made you go OH SHIT THAT NIGGA WENT IN!

    answer please

    SO OK I AGREE BUT RAKIM TOO… AND A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT HIM LIKE THE GOD MC ALSO THUS
    PLUS LL aka 23 years of career. that’s an important fact.

    ^^^^

    with respect to anyone who’s had a long lasting career in hip hop, when a nigga done fell off he fell the fuck off.

    LL’s skills sky-dived off the Grand Canyon. he’s not nice in 2009.

  14. anons Says:

    Name one person who’s shown more evolution than Jay. Jay has shown evolution with every album.

    ^^

    Pac showed more evolution..I aint sayin he’s the GOAT but he went with his heart til the end

  15. Jo$h Says:

    eminem has more hits than Jay….Jay has hits….em has HITS

    ^no way is this statement true

  16. sleep Says:

    *search for jay evolution*

    Finds songs name beach chair,history,something about hurrican katrina

  17. rex hussla Says:

    We need to come up with a new equation to determine sales, if Budden SOLD 14,000…is it safe to say that 100,000 – 200,000 people own that shit right now? Is that high or low?

  18. anons Says:

    Jeremy Scahill >>>

    walk wit a nig

  19. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # A tribe called quest Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    word on the e-streets is CNN will be on A-List Radio tonight with DJ E-Nuff

    and Slaughter House will be there too

    oh yeah. it’s about to be crazy tonight. Corniega got some explaining to do

    –Whats the beef

    ^^^

    NORE was on Angela Yee’s show (Shade 45) crying because World Star Hip Hop posts Budden’s videos of him racing Joell and shopwing off his girl’s ass (audio is over there too if you wanna hear it)

    Royce on “Fight Club” – “Now you mad at Tahiry cuz your ass aint famous/get it nigga your ass aint famous”

    shots fired lets go

  20. A tribe called quest Says:

    Idk why you guys are arguing about ‘jays growth’ knowing biggie died when he was 24…

    Again if you dont want to talk about catalogs then lets compare, Lyrical MCing.

    Was jay better than big lyrically… No

    The only advantage jay has in this conversation is that Jay lived longer and put out more material

  21. OWWW Says:

    Gravity Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    @ OWWW ,
    just cause someone created something, does not make them the best at it !! (c) IBM. what i’m saying is it’s really impossible to say LL is even close to top 5. He did his thing but he ain’t no where near GOAT status. the irony that he coined the term GOAT is hillarious though…
    ^^
    at the end of the day,
    i know dat NAS is the best now and JAY is the most relevant right now.
    BUT u can’t deny the impact of LL in dis game. LL was Jayz Back in the dayz in this biz !

  22. sleep Says:

    T.I has more number 1 records than jay does that mean he’s better. Let’s not act like eminem hits aren’t because of his skin color.nigga got hits with fart sound and shit.

  23. Danielson Says:

    Was jay better than big lyrically… No

    ^reasonable doubt put them on a par.

  24. Eastern_Digital Says:

    IF IT AINT HARLEM IT AINT GIST!

  25. eskay Says:

    >>what evoltuion was in kingdom come?

    just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean it didn’t show growth. and you can’t be serious, he was crucified for that album because niggas wasn’t ready.

  26. A tribe called quest Says:

    NORE was on Angela Yee’s show (Shade 45) crying because World Star Hip Hop posts Budden’s videos of him racing Joell and shopwing off his girl’s ass (audio is over there too if you wanna hear it)

    Royce on “Fight Club” – “Now you mad at Tahiry cuz your ass aint famous/get it nigga your ass aint famous”

    shots fired lets go

    –Are you sure that was a line directed at NORE?

    I mean theres plenty of niggs who deserve that line way more than nore including saigon and ransom.

  27. eskay Says:

    >>Was jay better than big lyrically…

    of course he was.

  28. G7 Says:

    >>Jay has shown evolution with every album.

    ^vol. 1,2 & 3 all pretty much followed the same formula. that was three consecutive albums.

  29. eskay Says:

    Soulja Boy > Biggie

  30. Gravity Says:

    becoming a staple in elite circles, wifing the baddest broad, livin off his glory days and puttin out vapid predictable content,

    ^ have you ever heard Beach Chair ? smh @ how easy niccas forget these days. Big took 3years to grow and comeback with LAD after RTD , Jay dropped RD,L&T Vol.1,2&3 + Streets Is Watching all in an equal timeframe , tell me Hov ain’t GOAT ..

    JAY >>> Big

  31. A tribe called quest Says:

    I like Kingdom come,

  32. anons Says:

    Let’s not act like eminem hits aren’t because of his skin color

    ^^

    yeah, let’s not do that

  33. D. Billz Says:

    he was crucified for that album because niggas wasn’t ready. feelin’ it.

    *Fixed

  34. Danielson Says:

    niggas wasn’t ready.

    ^
    for what? the lp as a whole doesnt show growth tbh. beach chair, lost ones and that katrina song did, but that isnt the whole lp.

    ps. that beyonce song was atrocious and so was the usher one, an album with those tracks on cant be taken seriously.

  35. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # A tribe called quest Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    NORE was on Angela Yee’s show (Shade 45) crying because World Star Hip Hop posts Budden’s videos of him racing Joell and shopwing off his girl’s ass (audio is over there too if you wanna hear it)

    Royce on “Fight Club” – “Now you mad at Tahiry cuz your ass aint famous/get it nigga your ass aint famous”

    shots fired lets go

    –Are you sure that was a line directed at NORE?

    I mean theres plenty of niggs who deserve that line way more than nore including saigon and ransom.

    ^^^

    true but I’m sure of it because

    a) Budden said on Twitter he wanted to call up while NORE was on there

    b) other lines from Royce on that song sound directed at him if you listen to NORE’s interview (eskay don’t like world star links, go check for yourself)

    c) they had no reason to be on A-List Radio at the same time.

    we’ll see

  36. eskay Says:

    I doubt that was a shot at Nore, that coulda been to literally anybody.

  37. *mooko* Says:

    jay didnt really find himself til…vol.2 oh and plus big was dead…so he won by default..

  38. PHENOMENON Says:

    # eskay Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    >>what evoltuion was in kingdom come?

    just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean it didn’t show growth. and you can’t be serious, he was crucified for that album because niggas wasn’t ready.

    ^ ^
    If Kingdom wasn’t evolution I don’t know what evolution is.

    Kingdom Come was a good album to me. It was material I could relate to and I liked the sound of it. [I probably would have left a handful on the cutting room floor]

    But I guess “supa-gangters” or people who just weren’t into that sound or subject matter couldn’t rock with it. [ll]

  39. sleep Says:

    U niggas could slice up joe buddens #’s however that shit flopped. It u tell me he turned a profit of that I’m dropping out of college and hitting the studio.

  40. OWWW Says:

    JAY-Z HAS THE MOST SUCCESFUL CAREER AND RELEVANT IMPACT RIGHT NOW. HES ON A ROCKSTAR LEVEL FOR REAL HES AN ICON NOW (HIS WIFEY, HIS LABEL, HIS CONCERTS, HIS MONEY)
    YALL CAN DENY DAT! HES ON THE TOP OF THE HIPHOP GAME! MORE THAN A HUSTLA HES DA DEFINITION OF IT ! IT IS WHAT IT IS AND FOR THAT THANG HES THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE AND MAYBE THE GREATEST
    CUZ THATS THE HIGHEST LEVEL FOR A BLACK RAPPER EVER

  41. Big Strong Says:

    Hov is the GOAT hands down none of them have did it like him

  42. PHENOMENON Says:

    ^vol. 1,2 & 3 all pretty much followed the same formula. that was three consecutive albums.

    ^ ^
    So you noticed no difference in his rhyme style through the whole trilogy?

  43. rex hussla Says:

    eskay Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    I doubt that was a shot at Nore, that coulda been to literally anybody.
    _________________________________________________________

    cats hear what they want (c) Casket hearing a diss to him from French Montana…that shit had me fucking *dead*

  44. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # sleep Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    U niggas could slice up joe buddens #’s however that shit flopped. It u tell me he turned a profit of that I’m dropping out of college and hitting the studio.

    ^^^

    listening to good music>>>>>>staring at soundscan numbers till you go blind

  45. anons Says:

    for what? the lp as a whole doesnt show growth tbh. beach chair, lost ones and that katrina song did, but that isnt the whole lp.

    ps. that beyonce song was atrocious and so was the usher one, an album with those tracks on cant be taken seriously.

    ^^

    saying kingdom come shows evolution is like saying Wayne’s rock album will demonstrate evolution….

  46. Gravity Says:

    I just laugh when people truly wanna compare Big to Jay lyrically….. thats not a conversation, Big said some nice punchlines …when it comes to lyrical depth, wit , style , intelligence , Jay is light years ahead of Big.

  47. Big Strong Says:

    You can tell who’s the best is by all the hate they get

  48. G7 Says:

    >>niggas wasn’t ready.

    ^I don’t think Jay was ready for KC. for obvious reasons he took a step backwards and themed his next album for that Denzel movie.

  49. A tribe called quest Says:

    @ phoenixxx Im listening to the interview right now and nore is saying he is not throwing shots at Joey. Hes aiming shots at WSHH

  50. *mooko* Says:

    jay is a product of the nas + big flows and perfect timing….NO ONE can say that the jay we kno now is the same jay we would of seen if big was LIVING and IF nas WANTED the crown..

  51. PHOENIXXX Says:

    I’m never ever EVER the type to reach for a subliminal diss.

    I’m pretty sure I’m on point about Royce going at NORE

    if I’m wrong I’ll take that L later tonight but I’m standing by it for now

  52. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    have you ever heard Beach Chair ? smh @ how easy niccas forget these days. Big took 3years to grow and comeback with LAD after RTD , Jay dropped RD,L&T Vol.1,2&3 + Streets Is Watching all in an equal timeframe , tell me Hov ain’t GOAT ..

    ^^^

    This logic is flawed…

  53. Gravity Says:

    that beyonce song was atrocious and so was the usher one, an album with those tracks on cant be taken seriously.

    do yourself a favor and relisten to the lyrics … not b’s part but Hov’s lyrics.

  54. rex hussla Says:

    Kingdom Come was a typical Jay album to me, other than Blueprint (which I can run front to back) I only fuck with half of the tracks on all Jay’s albums

  55. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # A tribe called quest Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    @ phoenixxx Im listening to the interview right now and nore is saying he is not throwing shots at Joey. Hes aiming shots at WSHH

    ^^

    just like Joey always says his punchlines aren’t meant to be disses but niggas still take offense to it (c) Saigon, Ransom, G Unit, etc.

  56. Carlos Voltron Says:

    # PHOENIXXX Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I’m never ever EVER the type to reach for a subliminal diss.

    I’m pretty sure I’m on point about Royce going at NORE

    if I’m wrong I’ll take that L later tonight but I’m standing by it for now

    ^Take it now and stop wasting our time.

  57. OWWW Says:

    BUT IN THE OTHER WAY… NAS AINT AS RICH AS JAYZ.. BUT HES STILL ON HIS LEVEL NAS IS IN THE TOP 5 ALIVE HANDS FUCKING DOWN SO
    FOR THAT DATS A GREATER THING THAN JAY ! NAS KNOWS THAT HE WON THE BATTLE ! NAS KNOWS HIS LYRICISM FORCE AND OWN TALENT!
    ADD WITH DIS (ONE OF) THE GREATEST LYRICAL CATALOGUE EVER AND U HAVE THE GREASTEST OUTTA HERE !

  58. Danielson Says:

    saying kingdom come shows evolution is like saying Wayne’s rock album will demonstrate evolution….

    ^
    i never said it showed evolution, eskay did.

    and tbh waynes rock album is showing an evolution because i cant think of another rapper who has done/has the cojones to do that.

    im not advocating it, but its similar to kanyes and 808s.

  59. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    when it comes to lyrical depth, wit , style , intelligence , Jay is light years ahead of Big.

    ^^

    This isnt true

    You’re enititled to think Jay’s better…but lightyears????

    You buggin the fuck out fam

  60. PHOENIXXX Says:

    # Carlos Voltron Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    # PHOENIXXX Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I’m never ever EVER the type to reach for a subliminal diss.

    I’m pretty sure I’m on point about Royce going at NORE

    if I’m wrong I’ll take that L later tonight but I’m standing by it for now

    ^Take it now and stop wasting our time.

    ^^^

    clever

  61. G7 Says:

    >>Jay is light years ahead of Big.

    ^I agree that Jay is better than Big, but to say he was light years ahead sounds funny, considering Jay has been alive eleven years longer. When they were both alive it was close. Nobody was light years ahead of Big. That’s crazy talk.

  62. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    entitled > enititled

  63. A tribe called quest Says:

    >>Jay is light years ahead of Big.

    –Whats that a death joke…

  64. PHENOMENON Says:

    # Johnathan Osterman Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    entitled > enititled

    ^ ^
    Rouge Scholar.

  65. Gravity Says:

    This logic is flawed…

    ^ go on ….

  66. PHOENIXXX Says:

    Craig Mack>>>>>>>Biggie

  67. G7 Says:

    Joell covering the classics >>>>>>>

    shit is molten lava rocks!!! nobody does these like him

  68. digital scales Says:

    John Legend did his thing on Magnificent

    Ross’ bars were on point too…that song aint bad at all

  69. OWWW Says:

    Yall know dat Lil wayne loves Jayz’s swag …

    but people must to understand that jayz liked nas’ style !

    NAS > JAY

  70. G7 Says:

    that Fight Club track is heat too

  71. Big Strong Says:

    jay mightve lost the battle to nas ( even though I thought takeover was better then ether because jay spit facts and summed up nas whole career)
    Jay won the war cats still call nas lil homie and jay big homie. and he came to work for jay

  72. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    Gravity Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    This logic is flawed…

    ^ go on ….

    ^^^^

    You cant bring time span & the “the time it took to do so & so” argument into it

    You’re saying it took 3 years for Big to evolve so Jay’s better…but that logic is flawed

    Cos Big died at 26

    Jay never turned into Jay until 27

    Do the dishes.

  73. digital scales Says:

    He gave Shakir Stewart a shout

  74. sleep Says:

    BIG does early but he didn’t seem like thtype of nigga who would pick up a book and read if he was still alive. Listen to jay lyrics u can see dude is a smart man who reads.

  75. Big Strong Says:

    Rawse tracks so far sound better the before i self destruct

  76. Gravity Says:

    @ G7,ATCQ and co …

    I say light years ahead of Big b’cos , when has Big spat a line that made you do some research to figure out what the fuch he talking about ? For me, as a dude growing up in Africa then moving here I learned way more about American culture,sports,history,politics,streets from Jay’s lyrics than Big. That is my reasoning..

  77. sleep Says:

    BIG died early but he didn’t seem like thtype of nigga who would pick up a book and read if he was still alive. Listen to jay lyrics u can see dude is a smart man who reads.

  78. G7 Says:

    Takeover had a lot of opinions, exagerrations

    ie “you been in it 10, I been in it 5”. Meanwhile Jay was rapping in videos in 88 with Jaz…lol.

  79. No_neva-eva Says:

    To me Nas at his peak>> Big & Jay at theirs

    NY State of Mind, It ain’t hard to tell, one love, etc.

    To me that’s the pinnacle of 90s NY rap.

  80. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    # Big Strong Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    jay mightve lost the battle to nas ( even though I thought takeover was better then ether because jay spit facts and summed up nas whole career)
    Jay won the war cats still call nas lil homie and jay big homie. and he came to work for jay

    ^^^

    Wow. Congratulations on this revelation. Props.

  81. Danielson Says:

    @gravity – where in africa u from yo?

  82. eskay Says:

    >>U niggas could slice up joe buddens #’s however that shit flopped.

    not that it matters to me, but that is far from a flop. explain to me how that’s a flop when niggas signed to majors are putting up the same #’s with three times the promo.

  83. OWWW Says:

    he came to work for defjam
    defjam ain’t a jayz’s industry cuz jay is on defjam too.
    president or not, that’s the same thing… nas took his money throught defjam. jayz said “i put nas on defjam” (put on freestyle) nothin’ more !
    but I DECLARE WAR concert ! to me Nas Is The Hero ! fo real.
    watch MTV Nas/Jay Itw with Sway, Nas Is The Implicite Winner !!
    Yall Know.. Dat After ‘Ether’, Jay Went On Nas’ Daughter (freestyle diss)
    …he lost his mind, cuz he lost the beef…

  84. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    I learned way more about American culture,sports,history,politics,streets from Jay’s lyrics than Big. That is my reasoning..

    ^^^

    This is your reasoning for thinking Jay > Big? Really????

    Zeen.

  85. digital scales Says:

    Wow. Congratulations on this revelation. Props.
    ____

    Sarcasm?

  86. *mooko* Says:

    SHUT UP HOV….c. alist radio..hilarious

  87. FuckUPayMe618 Says:

    jay mightve lost the battle to nas ( even though I thought takeover was better then ether because jay spit facts and summed up nas whole career)

    ^^^I hate when niggas say shit like this. What facts? Nigga if you think illmatic was the only hot album that Nas dropped because jay-z said it then kill yourself A.S.A.P

  88. digital scales Says:

    # eskay Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    >>U niggas could slice up joe buddens #’s however that shit flopped.

    not that it matters to me, but that is far from a flop. explain to me how that’s a flop when niggas signed to majors are putting up the same #’s with three times the promo.
    ______

    Not only that, but who hasn’t flopped? lil wanye? ti? who else? everybody ain’t sell too much, nobody even talks about album sales like that anymore cause the whole game is struggling to sell records…

  89. geico lizard Says:

    Big Strong Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    You can tell who’s the best is by all the hate they get

    ^
    That would make lil wayne or soulja boy the GOAT

  90. G7 Says:

    there might be some better, but nobody is light years ahead of Big. and Jay didn’t get on til 26, 27 in 96. His evolution took years. It took him a while to figure shit out. Ninjaz think Jay came out of the blue and dropped RD, but he was tryna get on in his late teens with no success.

  91. Danielson Says:

    thats terrible 13.900 copies in a week. surely there are more people in ny alone that are joe budden fans.

    independent or not, thats atrocious.

    @esk – what artists sold that little when signed to what major? i havent seen figures that low in a minute lol.

  92. FuckUPayMe618 Says:

    there might be some better, but nobody is light years ahead of Big. and Jay didn’t get on til 26, 27 in 96. His evolution took years. It took him a while to figure shit out. Ninjaz think Jay came out of the blue and dropped RD, but he was tryna get on in his late teens with no success.

    ^^^Tru Tru

  93. digital scales Says:

    Jay z became the mayor of hip hop and Nas is just one of them recognized legendary citizens, do i think nas lost the war? lol what war? he went to work for jay? you sure? you sure jay signed nas and jay was head of nas project?

  94. OWWW Says:

    NAS BARS FO BARS IS > THAN JAY
    JAY IS LIKE A NAS WITH A GOOD COMMERCIAL AND MAINSTREAM APPROCHE

  95. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    I cant believe people still quote Soundscan numbers like it means anything

    Its amazing actually

  96. Oscar Says:

    I used to think that “Hollywood” was one of the worst songs on kingdom come, but lyrically it’s brilliant, damn near a masterpiece.

  97. Gravity Says:

    Jonathan O.

    This is the logic. If you take the content of what Jay put out
    in 3years vs. what Big put out in 3years, Jay is greater.

    They had equal time to produce and jay put out better material.

  98. Big Strong Says:

    G7 Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    Takeover had a lot of opinions, exagerrations

    ie “you been in it 10, I been in it 5″. Meanwhile Jay was rapping in videos in 88 with Jaz…lol.

    ^^^
    i think jay was talking about how long since both of thier careers took off

  99. digital scales Says:

    thats terrible 13.900
    _________

    Thats not bad at all

  100. A tribe called quest Says:

    Listen to dreams by biggie if you want a history lesson, there you can brush up on all your RnB chicks.

    Its lost time got to go.

  101. eskay Says:

    >>what artists sold that little when signed to what major? i havent seen figures that low in a minute lol.’

    you obviously have no idea what indie sales #’s look like. K-Naan is signed to Interscope and he did 15K last week too. Project Pat did 8,800. and this is just this week.

  102. Gravity Says:

    From the Goldcoast…. to be continued @ the crib .. peace y’all.

  103. Big Strong Says:

    geico lizard Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    Big Strong Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    You can tell who’s the best is by all the hate they get

    ^
    That would make lil wayne or soulja boy the GOAT

    ^^^
    They dont hate souja boy they just feel sorry for him because he’s apparently ignorant.
    They dont hate lil wayne either they just worry about him cause it’s obvious he’s on drugs lol

  104. digital scales Says:

    twister sold like 5,000 albums

  105. OWWW Says:

    KNaan 15k datz excellent for a first week
    nowww!

  106. G7 Says:

    I’m sure Budden is a bit disappointed by the numbers considering he had his girls ass planted everywhere for a solid three months. Also this being his first official studio album in 6 years. He deserves better in my opinion, but that’s the state of music, especially hip hop.

  107. eskay Says:

    and Joey didn’t have 1 song on the radio by the way.

  108. OWWW Says:

    IF U PRESS 60 000 copies,
    and U sell 55 000 ! that’s a success !!! yall know to understand dat !!

  109. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    # Gravity Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Jonathan O.

    This is the logic. If you take the content of what Jay put out
    in 3years vs. what Big put out in 3years, Jay is greater.

    They had equal time to produce and jay put out better material.

    ^^^

    No.

    You’re wrong.

    Because Big’s OFFICIAL career was basically only a 3 year span (94-97)

    What 3 years did Jay have that were better than BIGGIE’S CAREER???

    There’s an argument for Jay’s 11 Years > Big’s 3

    But 3 Jay years??? GTFOH.

  110. Darth Cipher Says:

    wuddup nahggers

  111. anons Says:

    jay is a product of the nas + big flows and perfect timing

    ^^

    true. end of discussion

  112. eskay Says:

    Joey was probably shooting for like 20K, but 14 is still good for an indie release with no promo and no radio spins.

    FUCK SALES by the way.

  113. G7 Says:

    Big Strong Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    G7 Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    Takeover had a lot of opinions, exagerrations

    ie “you been in it 10, I been in it 5″. Meanwhile Jay was rapping in videos in 88 with Jaz…lol.

    ^^^
    i think jay was talking about how long since both of thier careers took off

    =====
    he shoulda been more specific then. Jay basically said his career took off on RD and Nas’ in 91. It woulda been more accurate if he compared when both their first albums came out.

  114. sleep Says:

    seriously are u niggas really trying to say 15k is not a flop. Yes the market is slow but 15k mi amigos that’s a flop.

  115. Danielson Says:

    you obviously have no idea what indie sales #’s look like. K-Naan is signed to Interscope and he did 15K last week too. Project Pat did 8,800. and this is just this week.

    ^
    yeah, obviously. hence why i asked.

  116. AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:

    Shooting for 20k. Yeah, he’s aiming high with that number. Real ambitious.

  117. D. Billz Says:

    # Johnathan Osterman Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I cant believe people still quote Soundscan numbers like it means anything

    Its amazing actually

    ^Even worse, by people who know NOTHING about how the industry works, i.e. majors, indies, distribution.

    CokeWave and Padded Room #’s >>>>

  118. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    # eskay Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Joey was probably shooting for like 20K, but 14 is still good for an indie release with no promo and no radio spins.

    FUCK SALES by the way.

    ^^^

    What Blogroll Eskobar said.

  119. G7 Says:

    >>no promo and no radio spins

    ^but a whooooole lotta ass. tahiry of course.

  120. Danielson Says:

    sleep Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    seriously are u niggas really trying to say 15k is not a flop. Yes the market is slow but 15k mi amigos that’s a flop.

    ^
    actually its 13.900 but whos counting eh LOL

  121. eskay Says:

    >>seriously are u niggas really trying to say 15k is not a flop. Yes the market is slow but 15k mi amigos that’s a flop.

    wow, what don’t you understand about what niggas are telling you?

    artists on majors are putting up comparable numbers. and hardly anybody is selling records anymore. in 2003 15K might have been a flop, but in ’09 it is far from it.

    this isn’t brain surgery guys.

  122. *mooko* Says:

    NAS BARS FO BARS IS > THAN JAY
    JAY IS LIKE A NAS WITH A GOOD COMMERCIAL AND MAINSTREAM
    ^^^^
    CORRECT…THE END.

  123. D. Billz Says:

    Let ME do 15K independently. I’ll make it fuckin’ rain at the flea market nigga.

    I’m not even being facetious.

  124. G7 Says:

    >>FUCK SALES by the way.

    ^co-sign. unless Joe really cares. lol.

  125. Mr.Dean Says:

    twister sold like 5,000 albums

    ^^^^
    Actually last album did 200k

  126. G7 Says:

    Lost is on

    1

  127. eskay Says:

    >>Even worse, by people who know NOTHING about how the industry works, i.e. majors, indies, distribution.

    for real. “that’s a flop” shut the fuck up. morons. go look at indie sales figures for the last 10 years and tell me 14K is a flop.

  128. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    Rap fans are fucking stoooopid

  129. Danielson Says:

    im sure there have been other artists who are indie and sold more than 13.900

    im not too sure, if not then say, but i would be surprised if there wasnt.

  130. Bananas the Ape Says:

    back to my discussion from earlier…i was just thinking alitte bit

    1. what if rape was legal
    2. what if we had android women for sale
    3. what if it was manditory that for women to live they had to
    have a child before 25 year of age.

    what would the life on earth be like?….hmmmmm

  131. *mooko* Says:

    15K EVEN ON AN INDEPENDENT…AINT A GOOD LOOK

  132. Darth Cipher Says:

    the good old sales talk… the real question is… will the record spin past summer time???

  133. Mr.Dean Says:

    Touring is where the money is at! Rappers don’t make nothing from album sales

  134. Danielson Says:

    so if cam only did 13.900 would that what he would consider a success? hes on an indie label now right?

  135. Oscar Says:

    G7 Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
    Big Strong Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    G7 Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    Takeover had a lot of opinions, exagerrations

    ie “you been in it 10, I been in it 5″. Meanwhile Jay was rapping in videos in 88 with Jaz…lol.

    ^^^
    i think jay was talking about how long since both of thier careers took off

    =====
    he shoulda been more specific then. Jay basically said his career took off on RD and Nas’ in 91. It woulda been more accurate if he compared when both their first albums came out.

    ^
    on some autistic rain man thing? no shots

  136. eskay Says:

    >>im sure there have been other artists who are indie and sold more than 13.900

    of course there have been, but that’s the exception, not the rule. Jim Jones did like 80K on KOCH and that was with a HUGE radio and club record and that first week total was considered monumental.

  137. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    Danielson Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    im sure there have been other artists who are indie and sold more than 13.900

    ^^^

    IN A WEEK? With no video or radio spins??

    who?

  138. Mr.Dean Says:

    Lost is on

    1

    YESIRRRRRRRRRRR

  139. D. Billz Says:

    >>for real. “that’s a flop” shut the fuck up. morons. go look at indie sales figures for the last 10 years and tell me 14K is a flop.

    ^Seriously.

    >>Rap fans are fucking stoooopid

    ^Even more serious.

  140. eskay Says:

    >>so if cam only did 13.900 would that what he would consider a success? hes on an indie label now right?

    I would expect more from Cam, but he has a bigger base than Joey and more of a buzz. plus, Asylum isn’t a true indie, it’s an arm of Atlantic, so he has the Warner marketing machine behind him.

  141. Danielson Says:

    IN A WEEK? With no video or radio spins??

    who?

    ^
    again, read, i was asking not making a statement. you tell me.

  142. digital scales Says:

    so if cam only did 13.900 would that what he would consider a success? hes on an indie label now right?
    ___________

    We talking about joe budden tho, theres a reason why 15k is a success for joe, if you dont understand then i doubt you ever would

  143. Mr.Dean Says:

    IN A WEEK? With no video or radio spins??

    Well he does have Joe budden T.V Which has a huge Following

  144. Danielson Says:

    I would expect more from Cam, but he has a bigger base that Joey and more of a buzz. plus, Asylum isn’t a true indie, it’s an arm of Atlantic, so he has the Warner marketing machine behind him.

    ^
    fair enough.

  145. sleep Says:

    Yes times have change but contracts haven’t so it was a flop. I’m sure dude atleast has to sell 50k to be consider successful.

  146. NYfever27 Says:

    BIG>

    Listen to ANYTHING BIG spit. Jay I can skip through, and also nas.

    If BIG was alive, the man would keep putting out classics IMO. Flow 10, lyrics 10, concepts 10… nuff said

    But those are my top 3 anyway, besides giving salutes to greats like KoolG, RA, and KRS….

  147. Mr.Dean Says:

    The problem is Joe let to much time go By

  148. AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:

    The stans’ll find a way to skew the numbers but for an artist with the “following” that Joe has, 13, 000 ain’t nuthin to celebrate.

  149. Kendoll Says:

    I would have thought that Budden had more than 14,000 internet soldiers. Guess the internet aint that powerful yet.

  150. Danielson Says:

    We talking about joe budden tho, theres a reason why 15k is a success for joe, if you dont understand then i doubt you ever would

    ^ again, read, i am trying to understand and i see it also depends on the fanbase as esk has explained.

    reading skills need brushing up in here.

  151. eskay Says:

    >>Yes times have change but contracts haven’t so it was a flop.

    you’re so fucking dense yo. contracts haven’t changed huh? the more you talk, the stupider you sound.

  152. *mooko* Says:

    SO… U TRYIN 2 SAY THAT ASYLUM/ATLANTIC/WARNER IS COMPARIBLE 2 AMALGAM DIGITAL??

  153. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    If it was 13,000 in a YEAR, that would be a flop. But IN A WEEK, theres nothing wrong that…Thats a nice enuff number. Budden aint on Def Jam anymore…and he’s leading the front on a digital-based label

    Budden has minimal promo…All he has to do is work the album for a year, tour & after 12 Months, his numbers will look completely different

    SMH @ people knowing & understanding nothing about a industry they watch, critique & love so much

  154. Big Strong Says:

    Joey has way more then 14,000 internet soldiers but only 13,000 didnt just get it from the internet

  155. digital scales Says:

    Sleep aren’t you joe budden?

  156. Darth Cipher Says:

    you have to consider something these days… most people illegally download albums before they buy them, so first week means nothing since most people don’t even buy albums the first week anymore unless you’re a die hard type fan… so most people (with the exception of say a kanye, lil wayne, jay-z, nas… won’t be seeing those types of numbers in their first week

    also one has to consider how many albums have been put out into circulations, if you only put out 50k albums and 15k get sold, that is pretty good for first week..

  157. AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:

    Johnathan Osterman Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    If it was 13,000 in a YEAR, that would be a flop. But IN A WEEK, theres nothing wrong that…Thats a nice enuff number. Budden aint on Def Jam anymore…and he’s leading the front on a digital-based label

    Budden has minimal promo…All he has to do is work the album for a year, tour & after 12 Months, his numbers will look completely different
    =================================
    That’s the optimistic version lol

  158. Mr.Dean Says:

    Tahairy will make him feel like he sold a mill tonight

  159. Carlos Voltron Says:

    # sleep Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    seriously are u niggas really trying to say 15k is not a flop. Yes the market is slow but 15k mi amigos that’s a flop.

    ^
    How so?

    He didn’t have any songs on the radio.
    Not much was spent on promotion.
    Not much was pressed to go to Best Buy, etc.
    There isn’t even a video for the album (yet).
    The only major feature on the album is The Game, and he can’t be charging that much. Plus the production is in house.

    It’s a quality album that didn’t cost Joey or Amalgam much. Plus when he does his mini tour, every show will damn near be sold out.

  160. Mr.Dean Says:

    Q. do Artist get 70 cents on a dollar on I Tunes??

  161. Carlos Voltron Says:

    Jay Electronica and Joey need to collab on a track and call it “Look at our girl’s ass (We won)”

  162. Kendoll Says:

    Joe budden had enough promotion to sell over 13,000 in a week. A local hood cat can do that in his own city in a couple weeks. Just saying. Budden had a lot of promotion, Just not bet 106 and park promotion. He was all over the net and youtube.

  163. Bananas the Ape Says:

    !FUCK THIS DISCUSSION….selling 13,000 album period is nothing to be proud of, yall niggas is celebrating mediocracy

    when you getting MASTER P numbers as an independant artist then you can say it’s success…P is still spending “BOUT IT, BOUT IT” paper….

    selling 13,000 in 2009 independantly after taxes is equavelent to making 25K a year at McDonalds…..the average independant rapper make 10 dollars and hour. when it’s all said and done.

  164. Danielson Says:

    The only major feature on the album is The Game, and he can’t be charging that much.

    ^
    Game is charging a hell of a lot more than Budden, thats for sure.

  165. Darth Cipher Says:

    # Carlos Voltron Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Jay Electronica and Joey need to collab on a track and call it “Look at our girl’s ass (We won)”
    ^^^

    *coincidence, i’m listening to Jay Elec right now

  166. sleep Says:

    Eskay stfu I’m sick of hearing u. the only way contracts have changed is these 360 deal. But don’t avt like these white people are now give rappers more money per album sold.

  167. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    Rap fans have been mesmerized, bamboozled, jaded & tainted with 1M+ first week sales for to long

    Well, Welcome back to reality. That time is over people. Now you have to WORK your album on the road like the Rock bands do. OR HOW HIP HOP USED TO DO IT.

    I seen the same shit happen with video budgets…

  168. AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:

    The stans’ll find a way to skew the numbers but for an artist with the “following” that Joe has, 13, 000 ain’t nuthin to celebrate.

  169. Danielson Says:

    how much would of wayne got per album if anyone knows? just trying to see what the split is at a major for a commercially successful album.

    is it 40/60 or something?

  170. Mr.Dean Says:

    How does a shitty rapper like Plies do 200k ????

  171. AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:

    Mr.Dean Says:

    March 4th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
    How does a shitty rapper like Plies do 200k ????
    ======================================
    Bitches & Bamma’s

  172. Big Strong Says:

    easy Ring Tone rap sells

  173. Carlos Voltron Says:

    Yo fmylife >> Twitter. That shit automatically makes my day better.

  174. Johnathan Osterman Says:

    # AmpGeez a.k.a. Hate Is The New Love Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    The stans’ll find a way to skew the numbers but for an artist with the “following” that Joe has, 13, 000 ain’t nuthin to celebrate.

    ^^^

    What “following”??

    Most people I know dont even know Budden still raps

  175. Mr.Dean Says:

    Jay makes 70 cents on a dollar??? Damn

  176. Danielson Says:

    Most people I know dont even know Budden still raps

    ^
    then they need to get a clue.

    even in the uk people know budden still raps.

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