Saigon ft. Prodigy – Under-Achiever (Joe Budden Diss)

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Saigon commissioned Prodigy’s classy comments about Joey for this one. Saigon also had something to add about the situation.

Saigon feat. Prodigy – Under-Achiever

Previously: Joe Budden – Letter To Saigon

Thanks to Legend for the rip. Hit the jump for the latest episode of Joe Budden TV.


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154 Responses to “Saigon ft. Prodigy – Under-Achiever (Joe Budden Diss)”

  1. Huh? Says:

    They’re about neck and neck…its too close to call…this will be decided in the 2nd round

  2. R.J.Orion Says:

    dead bananas > devin harris

  3. herbal kint Says:

    G7 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    herbal kint Says:

    January 17th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    LMAO, but Sai and Prodigy still have unresolved issues of their own to work out

    ^damn. time is flying. i totally forgot Sai snuffed Prodigy. seems like an eternity ago.

    … yeah I was dying when I saw ft. Prodigy I knew he was gonna use that audio clip but how you gonna use that when you talk about Prodigy being a bum pussy who holds no weight and then use him dissing Budden like it’s supposed to end Buddens career ..

  4. jrp14 Says:

    Nic Young has a nice game but there may not be 10 dudes in the league playin better than DHarris right now. Nic Young has to do what hes been doin recently on a consistent basis to even be mentioned with DHarris
    _____________________

    herbal kint Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    @ jrp14 – I don’t think people dissing him and his girl are really gonna hurt him, like Joe keeps saying if he wasn’t able to handle it he wouldn’t of kept putting her out there on joebuddenTV, Joe budden knows how the industry works he knew he was gonna hear this by putting her on there
    ^^^^^

    True…but knowin everyone and their mom is gonna hear this might make him think otherwise. But im not sayin Budden’s out, this is definitely just getting started. Im hopin to hear a well thought out, well constructed diss by both of em…these are more like quick jabs.

  5. Victory Says:

    NahRight used to have stuff before ANYONE.

    oh the decline

  6. D. Billz Says:

    zShare has been buggin’ out lately. Interrupting the song for ads.

    Anyway, because of that, I’m only halfway through the song. Lets be clear, when you battle Budden, either go in or go home because Joe is gonna lyrically powerbomb you through 4 tables.

    With that being said, Sai might’ve just set himself up to get backwards DDT’d off the top turnbuckle. Especially with the self-ethering Prodigy clip at the end of the song. Budden seems comfortable enough in his own skin to not let the attacks about his girl bother him. And then you dissed his son?

    That’s like taking the muzzle off a starving pit.

  7. blaze22 Says:

    breath smelling like he ate a shit sandwich at lunchtime

    hahahaha oh shit this is too funny

    Saigon > Budden

  8. Legend Says:

    do you think Saigon will end up slappin Budden??

  9. D. Billz Says:

    *ends stant* (stan rant)

  10. herbal kint Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    zShare has been buggin’ out lately. Interrupting the song for ads.

    Anyway, because of that, I’m only halfway through the song. Lets be clear, when you battle Budden, either go in or go home because Joe is gonna lyrically powerbomb you through 4 tables.

    With that being said, Sai might’ve just set himself up to get backwards DDT’d off the top turnbuckle. Especially with the self-ethering Prodigy clip at the end of the song. Budden seems comfortable enough in his own skin to not let the attacks about his girl bother him. And then you dissed his son?

    That’s like taking the muzzle off a starving pit.

    … my sentiments exactly …

  11. G7 Says:

    >>… yeah I was dying when I saw ft. Prodigy I knew he was gonna use that audio clip but how you gonna use that when you talk about Prodigy being a bum pussy who holds no weight and then use him dissing Budden like it’s supposed to end Buddens career

    ^true. Sai clowned himself with that right there. he’s one of them bright, dumb ninjaz.

  12. herbal kint Says:

    Legend Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    do you think Saigon will end up slappin Budden??

    …. he has been saying that for 2 years, so if he is serious now that means he was lying and not serious for the past 2 years ….

  13. blaze22 Says:

    Did he really just call his son gay?

    “He’s gay like his daddy”

    wtf oh man. This could actually get good.

  14. nation Says:

    >> NahRight used to have stuff before ANYONE.

    your boy Mos just sent me an exclusive on Twitter… i think i’ll post it Monday morning instead

  15. jdot Says:

    do you think Saigon will end up slappin Budden??

    yes

  16. jdot Says:

    do you think Saigon will end up slappin Budden??

    yes

  17. D. Billz Says:

    *bored*

    *continues stant*

    And by now people should know that Budden has the rope-a-dope Ali style of battling. Set niggas up with somethin’ real lite… wait for you to take the bait and return fire with what you perceived as goin’ in… comes back out the corner unleashing shit about yourself that you tried to bury in your mental closet… you retort with an emotional, angry rant… he ends the battle over a classic beat going for broke, family, relatives, and close ones included and you go back to recording regular music because you realized you’re fuckin’ with a borderline psycho who has nothin’ else better to do than try his best to annihilate you.

  18. rudeboy Says:

    OHHHH SHIT PRODIGY JUST GOT HIT (GIRL IN DA CLUB)

  19. Victory Says:

    nation if this is true. u will be dead in 16 hrs

  20. Parsifal Says:

    Forget Saigon this whole song was a cheap shot mark my words Padded Room will wipe the floor with anything Saigon puts out.

  21. jrp14 Says:

    Seriously though…there are a couple Em disses that for whatever reason I have never heard…dont ask me why. But I just realized why some people actually say he could be the greatest….makes the most commercial songs possible, crazy ass flow, raps his ass off, great deep songs…and after hearing all these songs he imo is the best battle rapper ever….Im not sayin hes the best overall by the way. But really..just youtube Em disses…Whitey Ford(everlast), Benzino, Ja Rule, The Source…none of those people have careers anymore…gooood god

    Em disses>>>>>>>>>>>

  22. jdot Says:

    “Joey thinks i am only raping not knowing that im going to slap him forget about ransom nigga u come and see me ill lay yo ass out right on joe budden tv”

    MATCH

  23. feelharmonic Says:

    Nah he aint shy…He’s gay like his daddy

    haaahhahahhaahaha

  24. embark Says:

    Saigon wasn’t going as hard as he could have on this either though.. He didnt spit with that venomous flow Ive heard before.
    This definitely leaves some room from from for improvement, Ill say that. So far, it’s a solid battle though

  25. feelharmonic Says:

    Seriously though…there are a couple Em disses that for whatever reason I have never heard…dont ask me why. But I just realized why some people actually say he could be the greatest….makes the most commercial songs possible, crazy ass flow, raps his ass off, great deep songs…and after hearing all these songs he imo is the best battle rapper ever….Im not sayin hes the best overall by the way. But really..just youtube Em disses…Whitey Ford(everlast), Benzino, Ja Rule, The Source…none of those people have careers anymore…gooood god

    Em disses>>>>>>>>>>>
    ^^^^^

    YUP

  26. jdot Says:

    this can get worse than the ransom situation imo

  27. Victory Says:

    Nation, akhi. is this the trueness?

  28. jrp14 Says:

    Parsifal Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
    Forget Saigon this whole song was a cheap shot mark my words Padded Room will wipe the floor with anything Saigon puts out.
    ^^^^

    I can understand if you’re more into Budden but if you dont think GSNT is gonna be a problem then you are crazy. Saigon obviously is dope and Just Blaze is a top 5 producer all time imo

  29. Dareason Says:

    *waits for the next episode of JBTV to be filimed in front of Sai’s apartment*

  30. Beewirks Says:

    *daps DBillz*.

    …Im feelin this shit but as far as lyrical dexterity that nigga Budden is on top of Sai right now…with that being said I fucks wit this Sai record because its real as hell lol.

  31. Legend Says:

    >> . he has been saying that for 2 years, so if he is serious now that means he was lying and not serious for the past 2 years ….

    point taken. im just wondering if it’ll actually escalate to that level

  32. embark Says:

    Whitey Ford(everlast), Benzino, Ja Rule, The Source…none of those people have careers anymore…gooood god
    ^^

    but all them niggaz were designed for ruin anyway. Em battles niggaz who he KNOWS are going nowhere fast. I aint hear Em go hard on Royce when he was getting at that guy.
    PRE 1st album, Em was a monsta. As time went on, he easily fell out the top 5 in my book.

  33. jrp14 Says:

    Nation please dont be sour about that exclusive shit…cuz you know you guys almost always have shit up first…so if you really h ave some exclusive Mos then please post that fire asap…cuz Im off work and bored as fuck until I go hoop in about 30…hook it up!

  34. SeeAmI? Says:

    whats good nahggers….

    missed alot. my net went out yesterday during casket faces 1200 conseccutive etherization

  35. nation Says:

    >> NahRight used to have stuff before ANYONE.

    OnSMASH just happens to have stuff before everyone

    i’m going back to sleep, good luck

  36. jrp14 Says:

    embark Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    Whitey Ford(everlast), Benzino, Ja Rule, The Source…none of those people have careers anymore…gooood god
    ^^

    but all them niggaz were designed for ruin anyway. Em battles niggaz who he KNOWS are going nowhere fast. I aint hear Em go hard on Royce when he was getting at that guy.
    PRE 1st album, Em was a monsta. As time went on, he easily fell out the top 5 in my book.
    ^^^^

    The Source was the most popular mag of all time! He sent it into obscurity! I forgot Canibus…and we all know Canibus can battle…seriously, em is a fuckin psycho…really

  37. INFECTIOUS TROY Says:

    This shit was corny & lacked anything worth remembering or quoting. Joey wins, but Joey should bomb on his ass one more time for the hell of it. Seriously, I thought Saigon had some heat…

    Not today!

  38. prophecy_projectz Says:

    There was a shooting at a cinema screening of Notorious in Greensboro NC……and Gravy was there
    smh…

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/01/17/all-screenings-of-notorious-canceled-greensboro-nc-multiplex-after-shooting-actor-who-plays-biggie-smalls-was-at-theatre/#respond

  39. prophecy_projectz Says:

    Dammitt why is it every link I post is awaitng morderation? I was trying post this story bout the shooting at that theatre where Notorious was screening at NC….and Gravy was there.

    Already reported?

  40. embark Says:

    # jrp14 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    The Source was the most popular mag of all time! He sent it into obscurity! I forgot Canibus…and we all know Canibus can battle…seriously, em is a fuckin psycho…really
    ^^
    where were you when the Made Men drama was going down at the Sauce and the whole editorial staff bounced on them niggaz. They were a sinking ship already. That’s common knowledge. And Canibis was pre murdered by LL. No shots fired but Im really not hearing you at all

  41. RoBaBank Says:

    what about fifty . . .wheres cam? ja ? fat joe?

  42. G7 Says:

    if Joe is an ‘under-achiever’, what exactly does that make Saigon?

  43. SeeAmI? Says:

    i remember when the source was having huge articles saying eminem was part of a illuminati consipracy to make rap white. and they would take over

  44. Parodi Says:

    hot ass garbage.

  45. Victory Says:

    YO NATION!!!

    WERE YOU TELLIN THE TRUTH??

    COS IF I FIND OUT UR HOLDING BACK ON NEW MOS MY BROTHER, I WILL AMERICAN HISTORY X YOU.

  46. D. Billz Says:

    They both know Just Blaze. If Sai wanted to slap Budden it wouldn’t have been hard to find him.

  47. Victory Says:

    i remember when the source was having huge articles saying eminem was part of a illuminati consipracy to make rap white. and they would take over
    ^^

    DAMN!

  48. RoBaBank Says:

    shit wont get as crazy as the ransom shit cuz its not as personal and they not from the same hood

  49. jrp14 Says:

    embark Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    # jrp14 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    The Source was the most popular mag of all time! He sent it into obscurity! I forgot Canibus…and we all know Canibus can battle…seriously, em is a fuckin psycho…really
    ^^
    where were you when the Made Men drama was going down at the Sauce and the whole editorial staff bounced on them niggaz. They were a sinking ship already. That’s common knowledge. And Canibis was pre murdered by LL. No shots fired but Im really not hearing you at all
    ^^^^

    Canibus is known for one thing and one thing only…and that is for straight bodying LL on Second Round KO. I really dont see how anyone can actually think LL won that…Canibus blacked out on him.

    And @RoBaBank….Ill admit 50 crippled Ja, but He had a lot of help with finishing him. 50 really just didnt have a lot to say after GRODT…Cam pretty much bodied himself with releasing Killa Season which was fuckin terrible, and that infamous video “get the pool in the back”. As for Fat Joe…hes never been a big time seller and he still has had some success with singles and ringtones and all that…so I wouldnt say 50 really did anything to Fat Joe.

  50. D. Billz Says:

    # Beewirks Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    *daps DBillz*.

    …Im feelin this shit but as far as lyrical dexterity that nigga Budden is on top of Sai right now…with that being said I fucks wit this Sai record because its real as hell lol.

    ^ *dapz Beewirks*

    Yeah, Budden got the 1-up on this dude. As for this gettin’ worse than the Ran situation, I don’t see it. He knows Ran personally and that beef was personal. Don’t know nobody want to interrupt Slapman while he’s rollin’ L’s at one his baby mothers’ cribs. The face spankin’ would ensue with even more intensity than before.

  51. feelharmonic Says:

    Cam pretty much bodied himself with releasing Killa Season which was fuckin terrible
    ^^^^^

    Killa Season > Notorious

  52. D. Billz Says:

    # G7 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    if Joe is an ‘under-achiever’, what exactly does that make Saigon?

    ^I mean really. A joint with NaS… a joint with Jay… beats with Just… Entourage appearances during their prime… and STILL no buzz.

    Cosign Fail.

  53. D. Billz Says:

    # RoBaBank Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    shit wont get as crazy as the ransom shit cuz its not as personal and they not from the same hood

    ^Exactly.

  54. Tray Says:

    Both of these dudes are totally irrelevant.

  55. Victory Says:

    NATION!

    ANSWER ME!

  56. D. Billz Says:

    # Tray Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Both of these dudes are totally irrelevant.

    ^Your father Joseph is doing his best to provide, you ungrateful bastid.

  57. jrp14 Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
    # G7 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    if Joe is an ‘under-achiever’, what exactly does that make Saigon?

    ^I mean really. A joint with NaS… a joint with Jay… beats with Just… Entourage appearances during their prime… and STILL no buzz.

    Cosign Fail.
    ^^^^

    Saigon has never made music that would appeal to the masses though….and we all know without pump it up that nobody would have ever heard of Budden. Im definitely not sayin that Sai isnt underachievin as well, I would say they both are…but look at Saigon’s music and really ask yourself if you can see a major label pushing it during this time when all that they really care about is straight pop radio ready music. That’s partly his fault with signing there also. I kinda wish Sai would find a way to release his album the same time as Budden’s so there could possibly be a little buzz for of them so they both could get the rec. they deserve. “The Future” is underrated as a single I think, that shit isnt bad in the whip….

    That Saigon song with Nas isnt released is it? If so I havent heard it….

  58. Johnny Cadelco Says:

    This shit was aight… By they way so far Joe is winning

  59. GemsOfGemz Says:

    OW SHIT

    OK I AM A JOE FAN

    BUT SAI WENT OFF

    HE SAID “FAB WAS NUTTIN IN HER MOUTH”

    HOW YOU GONNA LET THAT SLIDE JOEY??????

  60. feelharmonic Says:

    Is Victory Casket face?

  61. sangano Says:

    Joe > Sai

    Sai will slap Joe though.

    SMH @ Saigon calling Joe an underachiever….how do you fuck up a close working environment with Just Blaze lol FAIL

    plus am I under the wrong impression or didn’t Joe’s debut album sell thousands and thousands of discs?….

  62. Victory Says:

    Is Victory Casket face?

    shut up

  63. feelharmonic Says:

    shut up

    ^^^

    i guess not. casket doesnt know how to use strike thru

  64. Victory Says:

    i guess not. casket doesnt know how to use strike thru
    ^
    i learned the shit like 2 days ago and been using it in everyother comment! lol

  65. D. Billz Says:

    Sangano

    Joe’s debut went gold. That’s 500K+ albums more than what Sai sold.

  66. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    Did he really just call his son gay?
    ^^^^
    that was my reaction when I heard this too

  67. Da PartyStarter Says:

    EAGLES!!!! Wassup Nah?
    What it do Billz aka CANNOOOOOONNNNNN!!!!!!!

    I’m havin’ a NFC party tomorrow and a SB party on the 1st. Life is as good as these drinks tonite!! LOL

  68. TymeAw8z Says:

    Joe Vs. Saigon (quick thoughts)

    If you don’t think Buddens is gonna lyrically body Saigon, then your a complete and utter moron. This diss was awful (ie “…breath smell like he ate a sit sandwich” WTF ?!?)

    Buddens first diss on a 10-scale, registered a 7 compared to diss records made by other mc’s. Compared to his own capability it registered a 5. With that said, if he decides to really go in…it could really be the end of Saigon’s career…and this is coming from someone who likes Saigon’s music…but lyrically he’s not fucking with Joe.

    The lines about his son were completely below the belt and ignorant. Not to mention they go against the soap-box preaching Saigon is known for. For that, I plan on downloading Sai’s album.

    I really would like to hear Jay Smooth’s opinion about the situation. He’s one of the few voices I respect in the game.

  69. feelharmonic Says:

    Hip Hop is officiallly DEAD man. FUCK JOE BUDDEN and Saigon none of them even do shit so why is this battle or beef or whatever thissshhit is so significant? They both need to sit they you got a gay son you cant sell no records with no buzz esophagus eatin asses up

  70. jrp14 Says:

    Not that going gold was wack or anything but dudes like Chingy were going plat back then….its a little different then releasing an album now…

    One single back then pretty much guaranteed you gold….and “pump it up” was huge….and it was on Fastnthefurious2…which was popular as shit at that time.

  71. D. Billz Says:

    Da PartyStarter Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    EAGLES!!!! Wassup Nah?
    What it do Billz aka CANNOOOOOONNNNNN!!!!!!!

    ^YERRRROOOOO… What it is chief?

  72. A tribe called quest Says:

    GALINARI IS PLAYING!!!!!

  73. D. Billz Says:

    jrp14 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Not that going gold was wack or anything but dudes like Chingy were going plat back then….its a little different then releasing an album now…

    ^Chingy had more buzz than Budden though. Budden hardly had no promo was kicked off the Roc The Mic Tour before it even started. No stanning, just stating the facts. Not to mention 50 Cent, Jay-Z, and Freeway (a Roc artist) all dropped that year. That’s a lot of competition with BIG names and no promo. Give that man his props.

  74. feelharmonic Says:

    Louisville finna WIN

  75. Victory Says:

    Lets not forget Man Utd beat Bolton

  76. jrp14 Says:

    I dont remember anyone buying that Freeway album besides myself….its hard to think asnyone had more promo then Budden when “Pump It Up” was as big as it was…and 50 and Jay were both released like a while later in that year right?? Anyways, I cant really see either of these two ever making a big splash commercially (again), but they both make good music so that doesnt really matter besides the fact that they probably will never get anything more than internet love

  77. feelharmonic Says:

    Damn man I was gonna pick Louiville for that streak for Cash shit but I went to sleep.

  78. A tribe called quest Says:

    This was a good diss track. hot beat, scorchin lyrics. Finally a formidably opponent. No more dealing with wack ass ransom. With that said…

    1. Joey definitely hit sai harder with his track, sai was just talkin shit like “your breath smells…” Like c’mon are we in second grade

    2. Sai def had the better beat, and had nice raps to match.

    3. SMH@putting prodigy at the end, and the worst clip too, prodigy callin someone else an awful rapper is ludacris. When this hood wannabe nigga cant even buy his raps back from 90s. 2000 was his personal y2k, (excluding hnic, or did that come out in ’99) dude was just trash after.

  79. herbal kint Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    jrp14 Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Not that going gold was wack or anything but dudes like Chingy were going plat back then….its a little different then releasing an album now…

    ^Chingy had more buzz than Budden though. Budden hardly had no promo was kicked off the Roc The Mic Tour before it even started. No stanning, just stating the facts. Not to mention 50 Cent, Jay-Z, and Freeway (a Roc artist) all dropped that year. That’s a lot of competition with BIG names and no promo. Give that man his props.

    ” was dropped off the roc the mic tour / somebody must thought I’d rock the mic raw ”

    .. co-sign, even 50 admitted the reason why he started the beef with budden was because he invoked the 48 laws of power and saw the talent was there so he had to try and stop it his buzz from getting any bigger because 50 wanted to be the only star in rap, going gold with 1 single was and still would be impressive in this climate, def jam fucked up and held on to the 2nd single until almost 6 months after the album dropped, co-sign everyones sentiments on if budden is an under-achiever what does that make Sai, also isn’t it kind of a compliment in a way though ? I mean everyone knows what sells doesn’t equate to talent in rap today so Sai is saying and admitting that Budden has the talent that he should of blown up more ?

    was that last couple lines a Mr Fantastic moment by me or no ?

  80. A tribe called quest Says:

    With that being said, Sai might’ve just set himself up to get backwards DDT’d off the top turnbuckle. Especially with the self-ethering Prodigy clip at the end of the song. Budden seems comfortable enough in his own skin to not let the attacks about his girl bother him. And then you dissed his son?

    That’s like taking the muzzle off a starving pit.

    … my sentiments exactly …
    ==================

    I cosign this, joey songs about his son cause him to go in the zone. I think hes gonna get in sais ass now

    Joey – 1 Sai – 0

  81. jrp14 Says:

    Ok I was wrong about 50…just saw it was released in february…but budden was lilke june or july and jay wasnt until november

  82. G7 Says:

    yeah, Sai is gonna regret mentioning young Budden. that’s gonna cost him.

  83. feelharmonic Says:

    I cosign this, joey songs about his son cause him to go in the zone. I think hes gonna get in sais ass now

    ^^^^^
    thats what I was thinkin. Joe Budden is a homo ass nigga

  84. herbal kint Says:

    1. Joey definitely hit sai harder with his track, sai was just talkin shit like “your breath smells…” Like c’mon are we in second grade

    … co-sign I thought the same shit when i heard that i was like is this dude serious talking about his breath stinks like a shit sandwhich is that really supposed to show us you can rap ? not to mention how you know what his breath smells like and if you do know that means you were close enough to slap him like you have been saying you would for the past 2 years

  85. herbal kint Says:

    feelharmonic Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    I cosign this, joey songs about his son cause him to go in the zone. I think hes gonna get in sais ass now

    ^^^^^
    thats what I was thinkin. Joe Budden is a homo ass nigga

    LMAO

  86. jrp14 Says:

    I think Sai meant for that Prodigy clip to kind of be a smh moment…..because hes so wack and hes callin someone else wack…but I can see how it can look wack on Sai’s part because hes been shitting on prodigy. Im gonna sya it’s…

    Sai- 1 : Joe- 0…..right now…

    It could go either way…. I would much rather just see both of them sit on this long enough to make tracks that arent just disses but great songs instead of em droppin jabs once a week for a couple of months

  87. feelharmonic Says:

    not to mention how you know what his breath smells like and if you do know that means you were close enough to slap him like you have been saying you would for the past 2 years
    ______________

    exactly why I say hip hop is straight garbage now. like theres nobody to look forward to anymore except for some gays ass back and forth dis tracks. both of them are TRASH

  88. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    Joe Budden is a homo ass nigga
    ^^^^
    lol

  89. Dunny Says:

    Meh, i think Sai’s response is kinda wack and underwhelming. The song was pretty much summed up by Sai calling Joey’s son a faggot and saying that he will slap him still.

    Also, why the fuck was Prodigy on there? As if him and Saigon are just buddies and shit now.

  90. Plug Says:

    how yo bitch butt got a bigger buzz than you

    *waits patiently for Buddens’ response*

  91. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    zshare.net/audio/54155120edc31d1d/
    ^^^^
    wow

    this guy butchered the lyrics to Hypnotize

  92. Plug Says:

    lol @ ty using his alias for this post. we know its you typin them novels nugga! lol

  93. Conan Says:

    Saigon LOST

  94. HipHop Says:

    Niggas need to learn how to spell I swear!!! “Biggie move……….” not a good look. Spell check Saigon, put an album Joey, and BOTH of you dope MC’s need to talk like men.
    Ox

  95. feelharmonic Says:

    the bulls have the illest Intro Video for the starting line up

  96. FRE$H Says:

    SMH @ Saigon calling Budden’s son gay.

  97. RoBaBank Says:

    zshare.net/audio/54155120edc31d1d/

    ^^^^^^

    lol what the fuck was that

  98. herbal kint Says:

    Plug Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    lol @ ty using his alias for this post. we know its you typin them novels nugga! lol

    … lol, naw I’ve been using the alias for a couple of days there is a couple of other Ty’s on here now and I think I ever seen one that called himself Ty from Jersey and I started getting confused like did I get all types of twisted and create another alias and not know about it or is this someone else and if I was getting confused I figured others might too so I decided to post as herbal Kint again …

    and of course anyone who has been on nah for at least 6 months should be able to identify me and my novels no matter what the name

  99. The Truth... Says:

    Joe Budden ain’t gonna do shit….why do y’all still believe him?! He can be good lyrically, but don’t believe any tough talk that comes out his mouth. I’m with Sai on this…plus, I like this track better anyway. The idea and everything (Prodigy at the end….considering how this whole thing started).

    What did Sai say in that video the other day? Something like “Joe Budden talkin shit about Ransom, sayin this and that….then his boy gets slapped and Joe then turned into MLK” hahahaha…..

    Come on man….

  100. Frank White Says:

    Budden should film an episode of JoeBuddenTV, with himself on the toilet as a response, then give it to WSHH.

  101. herbal kint Says:

    The Truth… Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
    Joe Budden ain’t gonna do shit….why do y’all still believe him?! He can be good lyrically, but don’t believe any tough talk that comes out his mouth. I’m with Sai on this…plus, I like this track better anyway. The idea and everything (Prodigy at the end….considering how this whole thing started).

    What did Sai say in that video the other day? Something like “Joe Budden talkin shit about Ransom, sayin this and that….then his boy gets slapped and Joe then turned into MLK” hahahaha…..

    Come on man….

    … Budden ain’t trying to do shit but out rap him, which he did IMO, he said ” I just wanna see if this dude can rap, everytime this dude is in an interview he brings my name up but I haven’t heard any music from him I just wanna see if he can rap ”

    the shit with Ransom was real beef with different implications this shit is just rap beef, also how can Sai say anything he has been threating to slap and punch Budden for over 2 years now and hasn’t done shit

    smh

  102. D. Billz Says:

    I just want Slapman to come outta retirement. It doesn’t even have to be Budden related.

    “JUST GO GET THAT NIGGA!”

  103. feelharmonic Says:

    Budden should film an episode of JoeBuddenTV with him and his son at the gay pride parade and him saying “I support the arts” and give it to WSHH

  104. Mixtape Torrents Says:

    how your bitch butt got a bigger buzz than you…

    iight saigon got him with that one y’all, gotta admit that shit.

  105. embark Says:

    # A tribe called quest Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    3. SMH@putting prodigy at the end, and the worst clip too, prodigy callin someone else an awful rapper is ludacris. When this hood wannabe nigga cant even buy his raps back from 90s. 2000 was his personal y2k, (excluding hnic, or did that come out in ‘99) dude was just trash after.
    ^^^
    easy there killa. Return of the Mac And HNIC2 were definitely well above trash. The success of them two joints is what prompted P to start talking reckless like that.
    I rocked them way harder than ANYTHING Buddens put out

  106. D. Billz Says:

    *sees Meek Mill post at WSHH*

    *clicks link*

  107. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    Budden should film an episode of JoeBuddenTV, with himself on the toilet as a response, then give it to WSHH.
    ^^^^
    Kay Slay did that when he was beefin with Unc 187; except Slay was also eating food at the same time

  108. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    Kay Slay = ONIC status

  109. grs Says:

    haha omg Im a joe budden fan first and foremost, but my god, sai won this far and away. I wouldnt say he ethered him, but its pretty damn close.

    “how’s your bitch’s butt have a bigger but than you?”

    my god.

  110. feelharmonic Says:

    Budden couldnt beat me in a footwork battle i bet

  111. herbal kint Says:

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
    Budden should film an episode of JoeBuddenTV, with himself on the toilet as a response, then give it to WSHH.
    ^^^^
    Kay Slay did that when he was beefin with Unc 187; except Slay was also eating food at the same time

    …. that shit was embaressing to me to even admit I watched 3 seconds of, I can only imagine how kay slay feels …

  112. Xenophon Says:

    Kinda crazy that I was thinking about Slaughterhouse (none) last week before this shit hit the fan, that they shoulda holla’d at Saigon for another spot, or at least on the Slaughterhouse track. Funny as hell that Joey said he actually did….but for a situation where someone pretty much calls you on the carpet for being able to rap or not….and a situation where you have a lot of people that may not have heard a lot of your stuff….but not “necessarily” the other guy too….for anyone that knows anything about hip hop – – >

    Budden>Saigon, you just gotta come harder than that (none)

    1. Joey definitely hit sai harder with his track, sai was just talkin shit like “your breath smells…” Like c’mon are we in second grade

    ^^co-saigon

  113. herbal kint Says:

    Mixtape Torrents Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    how your bitch butt got a bigger buzz than you…

    iight saigon got him with that one y’all, gotta admit that shit.

    … already admitted that but her ass has a bigger buzz than sai as well, the only good lines had was about Buddens girl, and everything on this track sid about Joe goes double time for Sai …

  114. herbal kint Says:

    ” frontin with conscious spittin /
    about conscious living /
    I see conscious fiction /
    from a contridiction ” (c) Budden >>>>>>>>> anything on this track

  115. Pudo Says:

    This track is horrible…. I’m a fan of Saigon that “Just Blaze Meets Saigon” track is the best shit I’ve ever heard, but this was weak as fuck.. Plus you don’t ever call a little kid gay.. That’s GAY. It’s one thing to call Joe Budden(which MIGHT be true) wack but to call out his kid is just low. I think Saigon took a big LOSS on this one.

  116. M.Tyson Says:

    wow that shit about trey was hella funny

  117. herbal kint Says:

    ” but lets get back to Sai /
    as far as S.O.B.’s I would of done the same thing and been proud I wouldn’t of cried /
    you jetted on tape nigga how you gonna lie /
    so if your feeling like a sucker ask yourself WHY ? ” also >>>>> anything on this track

  118. A tribe called quest Says:

    SMH @ Saigon calling Joe an underachiever….how do you fuck up a close working environment with Just Blaze lol FAIL
    =======

    is this true. cause if so saigon failed at life

  119. D. Says:

    saigon lost for calling another man a bootyhole…

  120. herbal kint Says:

    * blogs from perspective of Big Homie *

    I’m out time to get drunk

    1

  121. A tribe called quest Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    I just want Slapman to come outta retirement. It doesn’t even have to be Budden related.

    “JUST GO GET THAT NIGGA!”
    ===========

    *DEAD*

    “JUST GO GET THAT NIGGA!

    greatest line of 2008

  122. herbal kint Says:

    A tribe called quest Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
    SMH @ Saigon calling Joe an underachiever….how do you fuck up a close working environment with Just Blaze lol FAIL
    =======

    is this true. cause if so saigon failed at life

    … yeah just blaze was the executive producer of his album …..

    ok i’m gone

  123. A tribe called quest Says:

    easy there killa. Return of the Mac And HNIC2 were definitely well above trash. The success of them two joints is what prompted P to start talking reckless like that.
    I rocked them way harder than ANYTHING Buddens put out
    =============

    Hnic2 was acceptable. But i would step my game up too if i had the potential to fuck up the following to my best album.

    RTOM… put your stanning card away, and if you mention product i will advide you to quit internetting.

    My lord, the shit fans let artist get away with these days is just ridiculous (no shots)

  124. k1ng Says:

    1. how you call a lil kid gay?:S

    2. how you call the man gay when u rapping about his girl

    3. “now im finna end his career” what career? joebudden tv? does that fall under a career?

    i got a couple of more but fuk it. saigon wins in my book just for that one line bout his girl.

  125. M.Tyson Says:

    k1ng Says:

    January 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    1. how you call a lil kid gay?:S
    ——————————————-
    cuz it was hella funny!

  126. k1ng Says:

    “This is the first and last diss record Ive ever done in my life so dont expect this to keep going back and forth..” (c) saigon

    this is it? wtf

  127. atl Says:

    anyone see that long ass paragraph saigon wrote for his blog? he did more writin, talkin, and singing combined than he did rapping

  128. GemsOfGemz Says:

    THE NAHRIGHT COMMENT SECTION IS BI-POLAR

  129. Mr. Sanchez Says:

    Budden is gonna have a field day with this bs. This was pitiful. Its not a matter of opinion. Its as clear as day when you actually know about lyrics. I never liked sai. I thought he was mediocre at best lyrically but I could see why somebody else would feel him. Because at the end of the day he isn’t as bad as some mainstream rappers. But to me the dude was too mediocre lyrically and too hypocritical for me to be a fan. Joe got in his ass and he was going light. And you better believe there will be a round 2 that is far more embarrassing for sai. I expect a reply from Joe within the next 24 hours, two days max. That is if Joe even decides this mediocre dickrider is worth a reply at this point.

  130. miltee Says:

    joe budden destroyed him.

    but they’re two different mcs… joe is more on that refined punchline lyricism, and saigon on that street shit. For battles, joe’s style will win every time.

  131. miltee Says:

    I felt sai lost on that ‘shit sandwich’ bar …

    cosign the contradiction line on budden’s record..

  132. Shogun Says:

    2 minutes of rhymin/threats/insults to wife and kid + 1 minute and 24 seconds of yappin = FAIL

    Way too much talkin for my taste.

  133. BBoy Says:

    I don’t know, everybodys talking about how Saigon gon talk about lil Trey being gay…but Joe did start that shit by bringing in the kids first, so he had to expect Sai to one up him.

  134. MEGA Says:

    WACK!!!!!!!!!!
    This nigga Siagon is “NOT” a gansta!
    He’s a fraud!
    This nigga ran from Prodigy an Havoc!?
    fuck outa here!
    Brooklyn niggas don’t run from Queens niggas.
    Plus he can’t “Rap”

  135. KING BLAIR Says:

    To have a nigga son on the song was some punk shit I dnt respect that he aint learn from Jay/Nas there are some line that you dnt croos if you got beef wit joe leave his kid out of it

  136. 2Gutta Says:

    how yo bitch butt got a bigger buzz than you

    ^ ROFLLLL

    MATCH SAIGON!!!

  137. ceroc Says:

    Even though i don’t like Joe I’d have to give it to him, but that’s not saying much… truth be told they’re both underachievers and are better known for talking ish on the internet than for anything they’ll ever do on wax

  138. dboi Says:

    i think what peopel are getting misconstrued is Sai is soft and not a real dude.

    The dude was locked up at 16 and spent 7 years in jail. He’s shot at people, for real unlike most of the dudes clamin they do.

    Saigon is a real dude and not pretender. Laugh if u want, but no other rapper would do what saigon did to prodigy. He had 1 guy with him and punched Prodigy at a mobb deep show with his whole crew there.

    Buddens re-iterated this dead beef with a random ddiss track tryin to get exposure. Saigon is really gonna come at this dude im convinced, even if it means callin out his girl and kid. Buddens asked for it. This track is raw and Im sorry but Saigon’s FLOW is 100x better than Buddens.

  139. e diddy Says:

    this has potential to be a real serious battle with Saigon goin this hard

  140. e diddy Says:

    how can budden or anyone hate on Saigon hittin prodigy and running with 30 mobb deep dudes there? for real? He had th eballs to do like he said he was gonna do in the first place.

    Buddens is a pussy lookin for attention. He started this shit to begin with…sibliminal lines.

  141. Pacman24 Says:

    joe kept it rap n killed him

    sai went personal an still came up short he need to end it here cus joe mite go in for the kill an then sai will lose all the little hype he got

  142. cliff Says:

    sai is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaarbage. ROFL

  143. e diddy Says:

    Buddens is speakin garbage. Saigon is a real dude. How can people take Buddens seriously? Saigon went to the pen…he served time. Hes got balls. Unlike these pussys out here

  144. cliff Says:

    MEGA Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
    WACK!!!!!!!!!!
    This nigga Siagon is “NOT” a gansta!
    He’s a fraud!
    This nigga ran from Prodigy an Havoc!?
    fuck outa here!
    Brooklyn niggas don’t run from Queens niggas.
    Plus he can’t “Rap”

    ^^^^^
    Truer words have never been spoken

  145. jdot Says:

    its a shame. sai coulda been huge

  146. Frank White Says:

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
    Budden should film an episode of JoeBuddenTV, with himself on the toilet as a response, then give it to WSHH.
    ^^^^
    Kay Slay did that when he was beefin with Unc 187; except Slay was also eating food at the same time

    ^^^^

    haha i remember that….slay was eating cereal…..now thats drama

  147. KING BLAIR Says:

    e diddy Says:

    January 18th, 2009 at 1:22 am
    Buddens is speakin garbage. Saigon is a real dude. How can people take Buddens seriously? Saigon went to the pen…he served time. Hes got balls. Unlike these pussys out here

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Since when did jail equal skills where I’m from a nigga who went to jail usually means a nigga got cuaght being stupid. And joe killed him wit that line about jblaze giveing TIP the hits and saying fuck Sai cuz its so true. Check Jblaze blog he did a post where he said ” i got another mega hit let me call TIP now”

  148. stanka Says:

    i can’t even believe i just watched another episode of mr.handycam “joey- butt-on tv” he’s just a big mouthed mofo who needs to shut the f up! start to produce some dope records instead of this shit, damn.

  149. Ryan Maxwell Says:

    Let’s be serious. It’s not as good as Joe Budden’s “Letter To Saigon”

  150. Todo Says:

    JOE won, saigon coulda did better 1-0 for JOEY, JERZZZZZZZ

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  152. hecktic Says:

    i chuckled out loud twice…not a good sign
    had a two memorable punch lines the whole song

    and buddens twitter mentions another dead rapper…

    could get surrious

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