Serchlite TV: Doug E. Fresh Vol. 3

Here’s Part 3 in Searchlite TV’s 4 part series with Doug E. Fresh. If you missed part 2, where he speaks on “The Slick Rick Years”, hit the jump.

Previously: Serchlite TV: Doug E. Fresh Vol.1 Hip Hop Memory Lane


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118 Responses to “Serchlite TV: Doug E. Fresh Vol. 3”

  1. Rockabye Says:

    Nate, if you haven’t seen it, you should peep Jig’s Heart of the City over Sunday Bloody Sunday. Shit’s fire.

  2. Triple OG BX Says:

    Yeah, I remeber them little niggas! The Mulemen! LMAO! Aight! Aight! Doug used keep them niggas under his wing. I think they were his sons or something.

  3. iknowuseeit Says:

    The history lesson is cool and all but why is it Doug seems to have a fallout with almost everyone of his partners? and why didn’t he metion the other kids that were burning the street up wit K Superior? The Mulemen! ILACOIN (Doug’s album spelled it, Illaquoin) and Mansone Bates. ILACOIN went on to do independent joints like “By A Stranger” with Black Rob for Grand Theft Auto III and Wu-tang just redid another one of his tracks to make that “Take It Back” record. Doug is the fifth element of Hip Hop if you ask me but ain’t keeping 100.

  4. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    She just touched it at the W

    She knew about Nahright.com

    She’s from cali

    She can eat her ass off

    I’d introduce her to moms

    I didn’t tell her I comment tho, I would of lost mad panty points

    *goes to be without showering*

  5. sleep Says:

    Nas»»jay-z, jay»»nas, either»»takover 1 or 2 whatever this aurgument will go on for another decade until jay-z finishes his live nation deal. I see nas retiring @ 40 cause he’s already lazy so image what he’ll be at 40. But just me 2 cents.

    As rappers nas»»jay-z
    As entertaner jay-z»»nas
    Cataloge jay-z»»nas
    Either»»takover
    Jay_z diss on b2»»either

    The lil homey jungle just a garden to me wow

  6. moresickaMC Says:

    I actually watched these vidz. kids these days dont giv a sh* about hiphop history. no wonder quality of todys rap music is in the trash can

  7. moresickaMC Says:

    lol…Diddy was once Doug.E’s Fonzworth?

  8. Charles Oakley Says:

    Either takeover or what?

  9. Charles Oakley Says:

    That Virgo track was my shit for the longest.

  10. Charles Oakley Says:

    LF: I was thinking about this the other day. I think some people believe hip hop is in the trash can right now because they include every “rapper” in the genre of hip hop. People who listen to the Rolling Stones wouldn’t necessarily consider Fall Out Boy to be in the exact same genre. There can be different genres within the same genre. Plus the constant talk of sales figures get nauseating. I never hear my female friends talking about how Carrie Underwood only sold 50K last week. It seems like there is too much talk about what is wrong with the music instead of what is right with it. Like Nas said: if your asking if hip hop is dead there’s a pretty good chance your ass killed it.

  11. Charles Oakley Says:

    And also who cares how old an artist is. I’d rather listen to a great 80 year-old rapper than a 21 year-old with the skill level of eli porter (no offense intended).

  12. Charles Oakley Says:

    Kingdom Come was a good album. Some sub par beats, but i liked listening to it.

  13. THE-XFACTA Says:

    All the way to Heaven. Seven, Heaven. All the way to Heaven…..

  14. Joe 88 Says:

    CiCi The Intern Says:
    October 21st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    # eskay Says:
    October 21st, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    >>Eskay what does this mean i dont speak max b

    yo, I’m looking for an interpreter myself.
    ^^^

    Where’s Joe88 when you need him?

    *Appears out of the wavy fog*

    So no one know what Persona Suri Jeris is. It like you give up your Us citizenship and you are no longer have to follow the same rules. Plus you get alot of special privileges. You dont have to pay taxes no more and you dont have to follow the laws of the US no more as long as you dont hurt anybody. It like the only real black secret society.

    Good morning nahggers

    *Plays track one off “the recession”

    *Continues eating fried lunch meat (n/h)*

  15. Joe 88 Says:

    kids these days dont giv a sh* about hiphop history. no wonder quality of todys rap music is in the trash can

    ^Hip hop is only 30 years old, niggas act like it’s been here since the beginning of time, I think it’s crazy that kids don’t pay attention or respect the past, but hey, can’t force em too, it’s human nature you relate to what’s current, & U.T.F.O rapping about a bitch name roxanne isnt current to these whipper snappers, how many kids are even named roxanne nowadays? You have few that are historians of hip hop, a few, & that should be good enough.

    In the 80’s when ninjas was rapping about there radio & adidas, the older people hated it, while the young bucks loved it, & rebeled against the old heads

    In the 90’s when the adidas niggas became the old heads, they hated the gangsta era, & the young folks loved it, so they rebeled

    2000 came & the 80’s learned to appreciate the 90’s cause they really hate what’s in now, same cycle, if the youth never learned it wasn’t meant for them to learn.

  16. G7 Says:

    fist full of dollars in the dice game god

  17. cOLD Says:

    gotta thank the lil homie Nas for that though….

    morning fuckweeds.

  18. cOLD Says:

    fist full of dollars in the dice game god

    ^word…

  19. Plug Says:

    yous a chump

    Im a champ

    you broke

    Im top dolla

    ninjas got a whole lot of mouth

    thats no problem

  20. Joe 88 Says:

    Pops left when I was 9, my heart died the same day
    cornbread caught a head shot, azhar died the same way
    – Joe88

    New music, coming soon

  21. Plug Says:

    its no optical illusion

    the choppa hits limbs

    plug sees everythang

    Carty lenses bout as big as my rims. -Plug Industrials

    plug’s bars >>>>>>>> Joes bars

  22. cOLD Says:

    the Nas Hovie exhange catagorically the best moment in rap history. And at the end of the day these 2 titans showed the World that men can put ego aside and do business.

    The nigga Hov new his blessings without repent, would be his downfall. Thats why he spoke of it in a few songs specifically the line in Beach Chair he spit

    “see i got demons in my past so i got daughters on the way
    if the Prophecy’s correct than the child shall have to pay
    for the sins of the father
    so i barter my tomorrows against my yesterdays
    in hopes that she’ll be O.K”

    Moreso his growth was realized in his sudden humility.

    Nas on the other hand, was always a forgiving dude. It wasnt in his nature to hate. At the height of the battle he wished Jay well.

    “Y’all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
    What’s sad is I love you ’cause you’re my brother
    You traded your soul for riches”

    As seen once Jay came back down to Earth it was only natural that those 2 would dead the beef.

  23. cOLD Says:

    joe88 your lines read well online, if they translate that well on wax you good homie.

  24. jodei Says:

    ya’ll aint hear taxi? http://www.zshare.net/audio/50180360d3f167bb/

  25. G7 Says:

    morning shouts to all in attendance

  26. cOLD Says:

    Since ILLMATIC, IT WAS WRITTEN: I AM…NASTRADAMUS
    That’s the answers to the puzzle I gave you, now here’s a promise
    My next few albums, instead of projects,
    They’ll be a difficult test inside the cover for the mind’s optics

    ^ once you figure this out, (peep the bird on the stillmatic cover) on the God son album Nas is holding 2 birds one in each hand. Peep the Streets Disciple inside jacket. Do your homework people.

  27. Plug Says:

    I respect cats who be in the studio everyday. it took me 15 minutes to come up wit that half bar. although it was hot, I could imagine doing 80 of those. 15 times for an album.

  28. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Joe, those Zshare links were blank fam

    Daps the reggaton slasher and Broadway Josepsh

  29. cOLD Says:

    oh yea fogot to add those birds are multiplied on the hip hop is dead cover.

  30. DUYUKID Says:

    good morning.

    work gets in the way of my producer/emcee habit.

  31. Joe 88 Says:

    Nas on the other hand, was always a forgiving dude. It wasnt in his nature to hate

    ^Didn’t nas say to the fans to “take Jay off when they see him” Cause I remember a interview with Jay replying to that statement, but I never heard nas say it, but the interviews after the nas vs jay battle was as good as the songs.

    >joe88 your lines read well online, if they translate that well on wax you good homie

    ^Thanks, that’s the only area that I think I need just a little improvement on, my delivery, well my delivery is good, but it’s certain things that can make it better with a top engineer, say like a guru or someone.

  32. Joe 88 Says:

    @D_Block

    I got you fam, let me finish this lunch meat sammich (none)

  33. Big Homie Says:

    Good morning urybody

    *daps everybody in this joint*

  34. Plug Says:

    I been listening to street disciples lately. it had a few slept on bangers on it. That song wit kwon is my ish.

    “can we please have a momet of silence…” kwon

    that beat and hook is one of nas’ best

  35. cOLD Says:

    D-block whatup, Brave hearts whatup (c) Kiss

  36. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Daps BH

  37. Joe 88 Says:

    Killa B.H i’m like Jordan

    Killa B.H skits > ________

  38. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Killa B.H skits > ________
    ^^^
    “Im nice, im like the spice”

  39. I Love Hip Hop Says:

    When is this “Halfway House” goinh to leak

  40. Plug Says:

    Im clownin. Im answerin the phone wit the HNIC playin in the background… luckily it was the edited version…

    *currently listening to young black entrepenuers*

  41. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    When is this “Halfway House” going to leak, its already the 22nd wtf is going on….

  42. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Plug’s favorite 2 rappers are Canibus and Prodigy…..that makes so much sense

  43. cOLD Says:

    yo Plug that Streets Disciple into is proper.

    I kept that shit on loop for min…

    Perfect music to sulk in your own misery for that moment.

    my life had its Dark moments yall.

    But today feverishly magnificant

  44. Mr. Papagiorgio Says:

    siete, plug, cold, joe, BH, the rest of the breakfast club

    *daps*

    world series starts tonight!

  45. cOLD Says:

    Pap sup duke.

    big screen documentaries of Idi Amin Dada

  46. cOLD Says:

    with this next line ima be easy…

    greenie I need you to post.

  47. Nanyanen Says:

    I wasnt feelin Kingdom Come. I gave it several chances, too.

    Then again its hard for any Hovalbum following the Black Album to not look weedplate-ish.

  48. Joe 88 Says:

    I’m might catch alot of flack for this, but, I think in the traditional sence of the word “lyrical” joe budden isnt lyrical, he has wordplay beyond this world tho. Anyone agree?

  49. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    I’m might catch alot of flack for this, but, I think in the traditional sence of the word “lyrical” joe budden isnt lyrical. Anyone agree?
    ^^^
    You know i disagree

  50. DUYUKID Says:

    @ joe 88

    agreed.

  51. Mr. Papagiorgio Says:

    palin rap >>>>>>>>>>> your favorite rapper’s freestyle

  52. DUYUKID Says:

    maybe i’m biased tho.. i don’t really get down w/ joe

  53. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    maybe i’m biased tho.. i don’t really get down w/ joe
    ^^^
    Makes sense

  54. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    In my humble opinion i think Joey is one of the best lyricist of all time…..thats just me though….

  55. cOLD Says:

    *waits for Nas unauthorized bio of krs-1*

  56. Joe 88 Says:

    @D_Block

    I’m not disrespecting joe at all, but really listen to his raps, he doesn’t use big words really, & he doesn’t break his rhyme pattern in his 16’s, think about Jay-Z “Can I live” how his use of big words switched up his rhyme pattern, or ghostface “One” or nas “esco let’s go” those are some lyrical songs. Now joe can paint a picture with the best, but he doesn’t step out of his boundaries with the words, he’s nice as fuck with the words he use, that’s why I say he has great wordplay.

    Joe does this thing I call “set up punchline bars”, i’ll break it down, the joint 6 minutes of death, now I might quote it wrong, but you’ll understand

    you not a gangster, you a liar dawg

    ^This was the set up for this line

    that’s like alice without the withe flying dog

    ^Great wordplay, great set up, but not lyrical in the tradition or Jay,kool G,Nas,Rakim,Wu tang, biggie, etc

    you feel me? (n/h)

  57. DUYUKID Says:

    # Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 am

    In my humble opinion i think Joey is one of the best lyricist of all time…..thats just me though….

    ^^^^
    wow. i must be sleepin.

    what tracks do i need to listen to.. to hear this said lyricism?

  58. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    but really listen to his raps, he doesn’t use big words really,
    ^^^^
    I disgree….I just feel like you havent heard enough of joey to say that…but all in all i just disagree….i think he is a pure lyricist and i also think Jay is a pure lyricist….

  59. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    what tracks do i need to listen to.. to hear this said lyricism?
    ^^^
    MM3 and MM2

  60. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Cold,care to interject her pal? Do you also feel that Joey isnt a lyricist?

  61. the watcherz Says:

    I’m not disrespecting joe at all, but really listen to his raps, he doesn’t use big words really, & he doesn’t break his rhyme pattern in his 16’s, think about Jay-Z “Can I live” how his use of big words switched up his rhyme pattern, or ghostface “One” or nas “esco let’s go” those are some lyrical songs. Now joe can paint a picture with the best, but he doesn’t step out of his boundaries with the words, he’s nice as fuck with the words he use, that’s why I say he has great wordplay.

    ^^
    sense when using big word make u lyrical….if i say large and you say monumental does that really make u that much better than me lyrically…i dont think so….im smh people still think like that

  62. DUYUKID Says:

    *does itunes library search*

    *has not 1 joe budden track*

  63. Joe 88 Says:

    @D_Block

    You get what i’m saying when I said joe does the “set up punchlines?” I just feel like when you hear a joe budden verse, don’t expect for him to switch up his flow for that verse

  64. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    sense when using big word make u lyrical
    ^^^^
    Ahhh the irony!

  65. Plug Says:

    when I think lyrics, I think canibus, pun, nas. you have to use some big words to be lyrical. buddens does not. not sayin he aint nice, but he aint lyrical

  66. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    You get what i’m saying when I said joe does the “set up punchlines?” I just feel like when you hear a joe budden verse, don’t expect for him to switch up his flow for that verse
    ^^^
    I get that but their are 2 different types of Joe’s, the punchline joe which you are refering to and the deep and introspective joe im refering to…..that all (c) red cafe

  67. cOLD Says:

    joey lyricism scale 1-10 = 7
    joey’s wordplay scale 1-10 = off the meter

    Nigga like Elzhi lyricism =10 all day

    the dude can make four words rhyme and sound proper on some Eminem ish. Them Detroit niggas got that shit down. Royce is another one.

  68. RIGZ Says:

    Big words dont make you lyrical…just means you have a nice vocabulary…

    But I see where both sides are coming from

  69. THE-XFACTA Says:

    *Morning Daps all around*

  70. cOLD Says:

    Big words dont make you a lyricist. its the mechanics of the flow. rhyming syllables (dosent have to be big words). True lyricist can make a bar rhyming an entire line for line.

  71. DUYUKID Says:

    i agree.. big words don’t make you lyrical.

    but i see what joe88 is sayin about the punchline setup.
    from an emcee standpoint.. when a punchline setup is blatent.. it just takes away from the lyricism.

    cuz you’re like.. oh.. he just said that line to setup the punchline…

  72. Chase Says:

    *Daps to all*

  73. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    referring > refering

  74. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Being a Lyricist = big words, clever flows and intricate rhyme patterns

  75. Joe 88 Says:

    sense when using big word make u lyrical….if i say large and you say monumental does that really make u that much better than me lyrically…i dont think so….im smh people still think like that

    ^Sense when did I say big words make you lyrical? I said in THE TRADITIONAL sense of being “lyrical” like past rappers that I named, I never said that big words make you more lyrical, but you can argue that it does, using big words means your vocabulary is wider than normal rappers, meaning that you can play with more words, so yeah, I can kinda co-sign someone if they said bigger words = more lyrical, but that’s not the point of my post, I said that joe budden has great wordplay, he uses certain words better than others, but he doesn’t use words a rapper like say cormega uses, now as far as wordplay Joe > Mega, but as far as vocabulary mega > ______

    Joe Budden has great wordplay. He’s not a lyricist imo, but I will chose wordplay over big words if the big words are used just to sound lyrical.

    Ya’ll gotta know the difference

  76. Plug Says:

    its funny how detroit produced cats like royce and elzhi on the lyrical tip nut we have the worst school system in the solar system.

  77. RIGZ Says:

    Alotta times, MCs use big words to mask the fact that they aint actually saying anything at all

  78. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    WOW im being out numbered today, wheres Ty and Billz when you need them…..

    I still say Joe is a lyricist

  79. sleep Says:

    Kindome come is not a core hiphop album. It created a new sub genre of rap album. I fucking love that album fuck what people say. Beach chair is probably in my top 10 jay-z song of all time, but I’m sure I would like that song if I was 21. Kingdome come martini sippin music

  80. Big Homie Says:

    DAMN there are a lot of DC women in that Serius Jones video. I’ve already spotted a few I know lol

  81. DUYUKID Says:

    i think the problem here.. is we’re all saying the same thing.

    just different.

    joe 88 is seeing it from an emcee standpoint….
    and super fly is seeing it from a stan standpoint.

    stan point…. how’s that for wordplay?

  82. cOLD Says:

    Alotta times, MCs use big words to mask the fact that they aint actually saying anything at all

    ^real spit Rigz been knowing.

  83. the watcherz Says:

    okay….it mad niggas using big wordz and make completely no sense ….so does that still make them lyrical….it kills me when niggas start screaming names like mf doom (who i think suck harder than a vacuum) OR sumother wierd boom bap nigga…..them niggas be rapping a whole bunch of nothing….they be on sum shit like let use the most big words and astonish niggas wit my word play…..ur not lyrical cause u read the dictonary like 10 times…..dudes are lyrical cause they can paint pictures with their wordplay

  84. Plug Says:

    rhyming syllables (dosent have to be big words).
    ——–
    the more syllables in a word the better the word play= big words= better lyrics

  85. Joe 88 Says:

    WOW im being out numbered today,

    ^Ayo!

  86. DUYUKID Says:

    it kills me when niggas start screaming names like mf doom (who i think suck harder than a vacuum)

    ^^^
    you just killed your whole argument.

    if you think mf doom sucks. you don’t know what lyricism is.

  87. sleep Says:

    *i wouldn’t like beach chair @ 21 *

  88. Plug Says:

    Monoatomic elements with an adept intelligence //
    The highest professorship, my English etiquette //
    Compels me to not say it if I can’t spell it, **tch // -bis

  89. the watcherz Says:

    it kills me when niggas start screaming names like mf doom (who i think suck harder than a vacuum)

    ^^^
    you just killed your whole argument.

    if you think mf doom sucks. you don’t know what lyricism is.
    ^^
    oh boy….

    mf doom dunks>>> mf doom

  90. RIGZ Says:

    *Puts on backpack*

    *Forgets fashion sense*

    *doesnt wash for 10 weeks*

    yo

    The psyco analytical, salad cream ketchup mineral
    Molecular modifying modulating umbilical

  91. sleep Says:

    I don’t know if mf doom sucks because I’ve never listen to a track from him, but I can’t respect any artist who put impersonator on stage cause their too lazy

  92. RIGZ Says:

    the more syllables in a word the better the word play= big words= better lyrics

    ^^

    Thats not true

  93. DUYUKID Says:

    @sleep

    see NahRight Lite

  94. COCCA88CRAZY88SINCE88 Says:

    *walks in Homeroom late*
    *sees Female Teacher stop lesson*

    *88 looks @ teacher, Winks, Does Doug E. Fresh 360 Wave handmove*
    *Walks, Sees iCon, points @ Greeny*

    “u better Drop that Zero…”

  95. Plug Says:

    rigz, name your top 5 lyricist

  96. the watcherz Says:

    *Puts on backpack*

    *Forgets fashion sense*

    *doesnt wash for 10 weeks*

    yo

    The psyco analytical, salad cream ketchup mineral
    Molecular modifying modulating umbilical

    ^^
    thats the shit i be talking bout….a bunch of wierdos

  97. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Tell Bleek stop fuckin true life in the butt (C) Max b

    why he get at bleek??

  98. Chase Says:

    Consider me, an entity within the industry, without a history of spitting the epitome of stupidity

    Talib Kweli

  99. DUYUKID Says:

    *dusts off his mask, whoever laughs.. give’em a head up*

  100. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Dap rigz d block

  101. Plug Says:

    October 22nd, 2008 at 9:51 am
    *Puts on backpack*

    *Forgets fashion sense*

    *doesnt wash for 10 weeks*

    yo

    The psyco analytical, salad cream ketchup mineral
    Molecular modifying modulating umbilical
    ———–
    thats hip hop is its purist form right there.

    *unlaces black suede timbs*

    *puts army fatigue vest on over tall tee*

    *unbrushes hair*

    *knods head to music irratically*

  102. RIGZ Says:

    # Plug Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 9:56 am

    rigz, name your top 5 lyricist

    ^^

    Of all-time? I dont really have a list like that…I just got favourites…I think those lists are corny, cos I change my opinion all the time

    I just know Nas is a mainstay

  103. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Daps my nigga woodro

  104. RIGZ Says:

    *unbrushes hair*

    ^

    *Death*

  105. DUYUKID Says:

    fishscale.

    *ghost*

  106. RIGZ Says:

    wha gwarn Yung Dro

  107. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  108. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  109. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  110. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  111. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  112. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I’m out tho holla

  113. sleep Says:

    I don’t believe that nigga he faked his concert

  114. Super_Fly_Jimmy_Snuka Says:

    Random order

    Eminem
    NAs
    Hov
    Kiss
    Buddens
    > off the bench
    Pun
    Beans

    Just my opinion!

  115. Joe 88 Says:

    *unbrushes hair*

    ^Dead

    @Digi

    I think max dissed tru life & bleek when he was with dipset, I been listening to some old max & he was a better rapper with them, but when he left, his creative side got a chance to flourish

    My homeboy was over my crib yesterday to get some songs on his Ipod & I was rocking some biggavel & he said “I see why you like his music, cause to me he sucks, but every song I heard was tight, he makes good music” that comment right there sums up why I like the music I like, a ninja can be mr lyrical, but if he makes wack music, his words means nothing, but a artist like max b can be a below average rapper (which I don’t feel he is) & make good music, I will download his whole catalog (n/h) At the end of the day, good music over all.

  116. Plug Says:

    I think those lists are corny, cos I change my opinion all the time
    ——–
    cosign. I just wanted to see what your idea of a lyrisit was so could roast you if somebody like lil wayne or mike jones was on ya list

  117. tumer Says:

    I wasn’t impressed at first, but damn if that B.O.B kid isn’t growin on me(ll)

  118. Joe 88 Says:

    I think those lists are corny, cos I change my opinion all the time

    ^Check

    I just know Nas is a mainstay

    ^Double check. I just know i’m in my own top 5, is that allowed? This year Nas has sealed his slot in my top 5, the reason why I say this year is, it’s almost impossible for a rapper to make the quality of music 15 years in the game, I swear you would think nas wrote most of that shit in 93, put it in a time capsule, & waited.

    Staring at the face of my watch is like a crystal ball

    I swear it felt like the earth moved when I listen to “esco let’s go” very high off the exotic, earphones on, looking into the sky. Any nigga that doesn’t listen to nas isnt allowed within 1000 feet range of me.

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