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Video: Charles Hamilton Interview w/ Jabari Pt. 2

Charles speaks on his argument with Uncle Luke on Lip Service Radio.

Previously: Charles Hamilton Interview w/ Jabari Pt. 1


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262 Responses to “Video: Charles Hamilton Interview w/ Jabari Pt. 2”

  1. Big Homie Says:

    Charles Hamilton >

  2. ODEMIC Says:

    thanks d blizzock

  3. EnglandRepresent Says:

    It’s in the Nahright Constitution that none of you Nahglets can be sending out e-mails with good shit in ‘em without flickin it my way.

    So it is said, so it will be.

  4. Fever Says:

    Shout out to Chuck Hamilton & Fuck Luke. Luke is 1/3 of the original cancer they plagued Hip-Hop. Nigga wins a civil case involving freedom of speech and in return he puts out some of the most ignorant shyt of that era. Thats why I be like FUCK LUKE!!!

  5. D_Block_4_life Says:

    No doubt

    Good times >>

    Martin >>

    fuck it channel 90 >>>

  6. R.J.Orion Says:

    Charles hamilton >>>>>>>> lupe fiasco

  7. NotU Says:

    EnglandRepresent Says:

    September 18th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
    It’s in the Nahright Constitution that none of you Nahglets can be sending out e-mails with good shit in ‘em without flickin it my way.

    So it is said, so it will be.

    ^
    *to death*

  8. Big Homie Says:

    I want to go out, but too lazy to drive.

  9. Charles Oakley Says:

    That T.I. is shaping up to be better than i thought it would. Solid album.

  10. the bushbaby Says:

    YO ESKAY I BEEN AWAY, but i just checked that blog on kay slayyou put up earlier and that shit is directly for you nigga.and i know you not a nyc nigga since you hate so much and anything “north”.you a bitch ass blogger who is a hater and need to stop that shit.shit is getting too obvious and they have some dumbass niggas who actually ride with you on this blog.your part of the reason and small part of why nyc rap scene aint getting no love down south and out west.if it aint the “camel” your ass stay hatin

  11. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Charles hamliton> jigga jay z

  12. Joe 88 Says:

    @Charles

    That T.I leaked? darealjoe88@yahoo.com

    You know what to do (n/h)

  13. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Joe i sent it to you B

  14. Joe 88 Says:

    D_Block_4_life Says:
    September 18th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
    Joe i sent it to you B

    ^Cool. Next time you type something like that, don’t forget the disclaimer, a simple “pause” would do just fine

    j/k

  15. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Lol stfu

  16. Smitty Says:

    finally a cat who speaks up on some shit niggas been too shook/too loyal/too happy with the current business deals they have to say.

    Regardless of whether or not i fucks with his music, props to Charles.

  17. D. Billz Says:

    That’s real rap from the youngan. I can dig it. Real RBG’ish. Might have to start checkin’ his music out.

  18. NotU Says:

    Yeah Charles talking some sense right here…..real words….

  19. Tijuana Felix Says:

    just saw DMC talk to us students about the importance of Hip Hop in his life and how it changed the world. Dude looks right at me talking about his top five and lets out cash rules everything around me cream get the money dolla dolla bill yall! i almost fell out of my chair

  20. pockets Says:

    yesterday was actually Constitution day and at my school they were giving them out to the students. now me and my whole squad walk around with constitutions in booklet form in our back pockets all the time. u gotta know about that shit, its straight up the most beautiful document ever. if u know that shit inside out they can’t tell u nothin! they cant do shit to u

  21. pockets Says:

    yo tijuana i thought u said DMX and i was imagining him taking out his crack pipe in front of all the students

  22. pockets Says:

    # R.J.Orion Says:
    September 18th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Charles hamilton >>>>>>>> lupe fiasco

    ^fam, like on the real, u aint even built like that to make statements as astounding as that. u aint even built like that, ur cpu aint built like that

  23. sleep Says:

    I’m kinda sceard to download that t.I album since dblock sent it to me 3hrs ago. Those isrelis at attlantic got me more schocked than eskay. For all I know I download that shit and receive a bill in 2 weeks.

  24. nation Says:

    oh man… they threw Palin under the bus today

    O’Reilly with her

  25. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Anyone have a link for C hamilton last mixtape, ive been reading alot of good things about it…..

    Donthategeorge@aol.com

  26. biz Says:

    them other songs on Peedi crakk myspace are SER-I-OUS.

    *bias*

  27. G7 Says:

    lol @ pock-11:35

  28. yaboy Says:

    yo dblock, i aint see the TI in the inbox…

    smh…

    y_a_boy@yahoo.com

  29. D_Block_4_life Says:

    G7 what it is

    sent YB

  30. yaboy Says:

    *daps*

    which hamilton tape did you need? the one with dilla beats?

  31. yaboy Says:

    Yo big homie, my comment got moderated at your blog..

  32. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Well the last shit he dropped, the only one heard is that green lantern one from before….

  33. yaboy Says:

    oh he has 2 since then…

    just type in charles hamilton in the search box ^^^ up there

  34. yaboy Says:

    They’re called:

    ‘death of the mixtape rapper’

    AND

    ‘andthentheyplayeddilla’

    if you need me to re-up the links, i can…

  35. D_Block_4_life Says:

    yea send them both if you dont mind, good looks

  36. yaboy Says:

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/hu28ud

  37. yaboy Says:

    here’s the second one:

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/othsqq

  38. G7 Says:

    whudup D-block? if you got links to spare(naw)….

    geehova@gmail.com

  39. D_Block_4_life Says:

    *Daps*

  40. pockets Says:

    lol @ that kay slay maggotry

  41. Big Homie Says:

    yaboy: You’ve been moderated and yea it is the 2nd version btw

  42. farsideoff Says:

    god i hate sendspace…50 KB/sec all the way to my hard drive.

  43. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Aint shit, sent

    Slideshow >

  44. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    The hood is not poppin right now

  45. Big Homie Says:

    Ya’ll got like a drug exchange going on in this bitch

  46. PHENOMENON Says:

    >>god i hate sendspace…50 KB/sec all the way to my hard drive.

    Zshare = GOAT

  47. upt4lyfe Says:

    this dude is a clown b

  48. Big Homie Says:

    That TI is a .rar file. For some reason it wont’t let me open it up to download it. How do I do that?

  49. D_Block_4_life Says:

    @ homie yo have to extract somewhere, like to “My Documents” for example…arent all the albums you DL rar files tho?

  50. sleep Says:

    I’m investing in some financial next week and in 5 yrs I’ll be laughing to the bank

  51. farsideoff Says:

    I wonder if they are going to find the guy who leaked Paper Trail and hang him by his Ethernet cable. I doubt anyone will take credit for it like with C3.

  52. Big Homie Says:

    It won’t even let me extract it and naw not all are rar

  53. farsideoff Says:

    # sleep Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 12:16 am

    I’m investing in some financial next week and in 5 yrs I’ll be laughing to the bank
    _______
    You do know the DOW finished up 400 points today, right? The GOP won’t let the market fall right before November.

  54. sleep Says:

    Lyor cohens already got his goons looking for dblock

  55. farsideoff Says:

    http://www.crack-spot.blogspot.com/

    That site has all the mp3s for individual download from zshare…I’m sorry Atlantic. I’ll buy the album the minute it becomes available. So will Big Homie.

  56. G7 Says:

    D_Block_4_life Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 12:09 am
    Aint shit, sent

    ^props breddren

  57. PHENOMENON Says:

    Moderation in 5. . .4. . .3. . .2. . .

  58. D_Block_4_life Says:

    Lyor cohens already got his goons looking for dblock
    ^
    HA!

  59. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I hope that links works later tonight

  60. sleep Says:

    La reid need some muscle cause eskay would post a def jam album 3 weeks before it come out but won’t touch a single from an atlantic artist.

  61. farsideoff Says:

    You guys are paranoid

  62. G7 Says:

    sleep, digital, pheno, farside, b.homie, yaboy….whutitbee?

  63. farsideoff Says:

    the first paper of the year is always the hardest…

  64. pockets Says:

    yo wtf its like a backroom in chinatown up in this bitch, no disrespect @ big homie

  65. sleep Says:

    Que pasa mi amigo

  66. D. Billz Says:

    biz Says:
    September 18th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    them other songs on Peedi crakk myspace are SER-I-OUS.

    ^ RRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG!

    His new material has been crack (no pun) lately. He had like 3 joints on his Myspace in the last 2 months.

  67. G7 Says:

    lf: whatever happened to that kanye, pharrell, and lupe album? shit kinda fell off the map.

  68. Big Homie Says:

    *daps G7*

    I fuck with that Peedi More Towels joint. I can hear that shit do nicely in a club.

  69. PHENOMENON Says:

    CRS is comming.

  70. pockets Says:

    whatever happened to that kanye, pharrell, and lupe album?

    ^i think technically they never promised an album…but ya it will eventually come i think ||

  71. pockets Says:

    someone link me to peedi’s myspace

  72. sleep Says:

    what happend to kanye lupe pharel group is the same thing that happend to ja dmx and hov group

  73. farsideoff Says:

    # G7 Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    lf: whatever happened to that kanye, pharrell, and lupe album? shit kinda fell off the map.
    ________
    imagine how difficult it must be to coordinate all three of those dudes schedules to get them all in the studio together producing and rapping. Now that Kanye has a new album coming out and Lupe is working on LupEnd, it probably won’t even come out.

  74. pockets Says:

    this is just a rhetorical okay k-kapish, life can petite or overweight im fatigued by the weight im wale by the way of DC

  75. pockets Says:

    imagine how difficult it must be to coordinate all three of those dudes schedules to get them all in the studio together producing and rapping.

    ^just toss a couple banana-patterned hoodies in the studio and watch them float in. then padlock the door shut.

  76. D. Billz Says:

    GOT… DAMN! (c) KaySlay

    Yo, I aint heard these new Peedi joints on his page. Whoa. He back on that shit.

    *bops to the songs*

  77. Big Homie Says:

    LOL at pockets

  78. G7 Says:

    >>Now that Kanye has a new album coming out and Lupe is working on LupEnd, it probably won’t even come out.

    ^true, and pharrell is working with common….unfortunately

  79. D. Billz Says:

    BigHomie

    http://www.myspace.com/peedipeedi4

    It’s got 3 new joints on it. The Martin Lawrence sample at the end of “Too G” is fuckin’ hilarious. I think I might got that comedy album on cd.

  80. Big Homie Says:

    http://www.myspace.com/peedipeedi4

    Peedi’s MySpace page

  81. farsideoff Says:

    Homie did you get that TIP figured out (nh)?

  82. pockets Says:

    i have a feeling after lupend, the crs jawn will be lu’s last album. i bet that he is gonna start experimenting with jazz or something since he’s already conquered hip hop

  83. pockets Says:

    pharrell is working with common….unfortunately

    ^y unfortunately?

  84. Big Homie Says:

    Nice

  85. farsideoff Says:

    i have a feeling after lupend, the crs jawn will be lu’s last album. i bet that he is gonna start experimenting with jazz or something since he’s already conquered hip hop
    __________
    ha, not going to start the argument about whether or not he’s got a classic in his catalog. Honestly though, he won’t retire. No one does. He won’t even be 30 until 2012 and Lupe’s too smart to just sit on money and not express himself anymore.

  86. Big Homie Says:

    Homie did you get that TIP figured out (nh)?

    ^ I thought I almost had it, but it won’t let me do shit. It says it’s not compadable with Quicktime or some shit. I would go to the crack-spot but I don’t have the patience to download each track, but here I am bored as fuck, drinking Tequila fuckin with ya’ll nerds lol

  87. D. Billz Says:

    lol @ me and BigHomie postin’ the same shit simultaneously

    We don’t need the Camel!

  88. G7 Says:

    pockets Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 12:52 am
    pharrell is working with common….unfortunately

    ^y unfortunately?

    ====
    i’m not really amped for a common album produced by pharrell. never been a big fan pharrell fan.

  89. pockets Says:

    but here I am bored as fuck, drinking Tequila fuckin with ya’ll nerds lol

    ^dude im sitting here in my kitchen reading the Constitution, this shit is beautiful

  90. pockets Says:

    commonn should just rap over southern crunk/snap beats, he could say “its the only thing that’s missing from my body of work”

  91. G7 Says:

    >>never been a big “fan pharrell fan”.

    ^smh @ myself

  92. PHENOMENON Says:

    Pharrell is a pioneer.

  93. Big Homie Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOEUBjsZuI

    I know ya’ll heard of David Sides before, the dude that kills it on the keys playin’ almost anything. Above’s his latest doing “Lollipop”. I should of took lessons when I was younger. Click his name for more vids. He kills it.

    I’m about to light up a L and call it a night. Now I know why I only drink dark liquor.

  94. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Crackheads are slowly getting clean
    All across the nyc area

  95. G7 Says:

    ^good to hear

  96. G7 Says:

    PHENOMENON Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 1:05 am
    Pharrell is a pioneer

    ^yeah. his work with Chad is much better though.

  97. farsideoff Says:

    David Sides is a straight novelty like Bo Burnham. Without Youtube, there would be no audience for these people.

  98. PHENOMENON Says:

    The Neptunes brought a whole new sound to the table.

  99. farsideoff Says:

    alright, so whats your favorite neptune’s beat?

  100. D. Billz Says:

    I’ma have to rock with “Grindin” and “Cot Damn”.

  101. farsideoff Says:

    yeah, Grindin was it. Some of my favorite drums on any song.

  102. G7 Says:

    grindin is tops

  103. farsideoff Says:

    anybody got an mp3 for Clipse “Pussy.”

  104. biz Says:

    THis summumabitch was jus on AOTS. whoa.

  105. biz Says:

    GOT… DAMN! (c) KaySlay

    Yo, I aint heard these new Peedi joints on his page. Whoa. He back on that shit.

    *bops to the songs*

    ^^

    told you so.

  106. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Did jay ever spit on grinding?

  107. PHENOMENON Says:

    Jay needs another Ghrammy Family.

  108. biz Says:

    if kanye produced “on top of the world” i will no longer be sharin my opinons on nahright b’cuz cuz ima get my guo xing-xing (olympic diver) on off the side of my buildin.

    say it aint so……

  109. farsideoff Says:

    Did jay ever spit on grinding?

    _______
    that’s a wish, not a question.

  110. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    He should rap to it now

  111. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Daps phen the only other drug dealer on the nah(nh)

    Sup with the moderation

  112. PHENOMENON Says:

    *Plays “Dynasty Intro”*

  113. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Wtf

  114. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Drug dealer

  115. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Eskay ‘drug dealer’ a bad word on nahright

  116. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Why I type

    D r u g

    D e a l e r

    Together I get moderation

  117. benhameen Says:

    I just found out my ex is fucking with one of the people that i work with.

  118. PHENOMENON Says:

    And how does that make you feel?

  119. Nanyanen aka Vasco de Bamma Says:

    DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 2:45 am
    Why I type

    D r u g

    D e a l e r

    Together I get moderation

    ^^^ hahaha.
    you need to lerk moar

  120. nation Says:

    drugdealer

  121. PHENOMENON Says:

    I hope T-Pain didn’t pay for that verse from Wayne.

  122. moresickaMC Says:

    daaamn funk Flex gets AIRED OUT by Big Worm

    this is gettn wild yo

    worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhoVmEAt72h8A9u35e

  123. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Who is big perm, I mean big worm?

  124. OnPoint Says:

    That T.I. album is offical. I shall cop. That Rhianna song is going to be huge.

  125. sleep Says:

    Some chicks pussy taste so good.

  126. KilluminattI7 Says:

    gat damn..

    I juss ran thru whole weeks worth of posts (SUPER Pause) in the past hour or so,

    now I m too tired to make a comment

  127. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    That song won’t blow

  128. KilluminattI7 Says:

    ^^^
    but, I will say this

    comin staright outta left field but relevant to this post:

    I gotta give it (nope) to the young bol chazz hamilton, he make some very lucid points re: Uncle Luke

    I was at one point carrying the cross and leading the anti-Hamilton crusade, but after listening to the interview, then backtracking and doing the knowledge to accquire the backstory that was the genesis of his disagreement with Mr. Campbell..and, I must say, if his subsequent handling (nevah that!) of teh beef (nope) is any indication, this rather musty looking youngster is wise beyond his years , and a rare talent to say the least.. albeit with a very small sampling / body of work.. I mean come on (no bukkake) HE’S ONLY 17 (no jay ejaculating in the booth the first time young chris and the state prop boys tore it down on flex’ show at hot97.. which was une momente classique de hip-hop pour moi btw)

    that being said, its late, I’m litely lifted and somewhat twisted off of crwon and cali chronic, have shed 12 pounds and counting during the saum, but still and all it must be said so

    *SUPER PAUSE / INFINITE DISCLAIMERS FOR ANY AND ALL QUESTIONABLE WORD CHOICE IN THE PRECEDING ^^^ PARAGRAPH*

  129. KilluminattI7 Says:

    annnnnd…

    I’m spent (c) Austin Powrs

  130. OnPoint Says:

    DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 5:00 am
    That song won’t blow

    ^^^You dont think so, as a pop hit?

  131. OnPoint Says:

    People were loving it live at the VMAs

  132. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    This kid is 17 damn I wish I was making music instead of sellinf drugs at 17

  133. Joe 88 Says:

    This kid is 17 damn I wish I was making music instead of sellinf drugs at 17

    ^Co-fucking sign. I pulled up my criminal record just for the fuck of it yesterday & wow, I really was doing some dumb shit.

  134. sleep Says:

    Rihanna is cut but her tittes is too small. If I meet a chick with all her feature I’d smash but won’t wife.

  135. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Honestly I’d wife her if she wasn’t a bitch cause she’s bad

    Daps joe

    I seen ya video on Nah the other day, I ment to tell you that’s a good look but you wasn’t around…

  136. Joe 88 Says:

    T Mari > Rihanna

  137. Joe 88 Says:

    Thanks Digi. My homeboy threw it together, that was his first video, kinda good for his 1st. Still doing shows?

  138. PHENOMENON Says:

    Nice video and song Joe.

  139. Joe 88 Says:

    Thanks Phenomenon

  140. Joe 88 Says:

    SMH @ my homeboy saying

    Shottas > City of God

    I gotta stay away from retards

  141. PHENOMENON Says:

    Theres a lot of talent here on Nah Right.

    These up-n-commers actually have songs you want to listen to.

  142. Joe 88 Says:

    SMH @ anyone who thought millz beat mook

    You don’t want me to make the order, to take ya bitch, rape ya bitch, tape the shit, & make YOU hold the camcorder

    Owned

  143. The watcherz Says:

    *good morning daps all around the room and wishes everyone a happy friday*

    Damn I walk outside to smoke a stoogie before I get dress for wrk its chilly son…..that’s what’s up though cause it champion hoody and sweatshirt

    *throws on champion sweatshirt*
    Ahhhhh the feel of comfort

    Still tired with argueing with my dude what’s better the blueprint or stillmatic as a whole…….I’m so tired of these jay z/nas convos……it like a chick pussy you tired of but you keep coming back cause it so familar

  144. Plug Says:

    man funk flex was right. we gotta start holding this artist responsible. this ninja Kels touches young children… the shit is on tape. this nigga is a proven pedofile. he was doin that shyt to aliya back in the day. on the real we need to have a sit down. cats shouldnt even be doing business wit this cat forreal. fukk him and anybody who does business wit him.

  145. Joe 88 Says:

    don’t get trapped in the hype homeboy, you aint real, & I don’t hear about how you spray steel, cause in the bin, I heard they told you to stay still, 20 niggas in the shower, waiting to jae millz

  146. sleep Says:

    Maybe I don’t know good music but what the hell people see in t-pain music that shit sucks

  147. prophecy_projectz Says:

    For Eskay, Nation or anyone else:

    Nas- Y’all My Niggas Video:
    http://www.livesteez.com/videos/watch/BZ3bBua

  148. Big Homie Says:

    I just found out my ex is fucking with one of the people that i work with.

    ^ Better than your ex than your girl

  149. Plug Says:

    mok had the lead by like .0000000000000000001%

  150. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    what’s poppin

    *daps BH, Plug, Joe, digi, the rest of the regulars*

    @ BH

    please tell me you were out at the clusterfuck that was Park last night. . . .

  151. b-ease Says:

    What’s good Nah? *daps all in vicinity*

    Swagger like Puff>>>Swagger Like Us

    Still tired with argueing with my dude what’s better the blueprint or stillmatic as a whole

    ^^
    Blueprint is a better album, though an argument could be made that none of the individual tracks on Blueprint are as dope as “What Goes Around”.

  152. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    swagger like puff is waaaaaay more swaggerific.

    and although stillmatic was incredible, you just can’t deny the genius that was the blueprint. . . and seeing as how it really served as the blueprint for how other rap albums were created (with the soul samples), you could say that the album title was the most appropriate of all time. . .

    well, right behind Big Bear’s “Doin Thangs”.

  153. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Come on man that swagga like puff was trash

  154. Big Homie Says:

    please tell me you were out at the clusterfuck that was Park last night. . . .

    ^ Naw man I wish. You hit that joint up?

    I need to stop drinking so much during the evening to the point if I wanted to go out later on during the night dolo I can. I wasn’t in the condition to drive so I chilled.

  155. 123 Says:

    Why isn’t Faizon’s video calling out that faggot Flex on here?

  156. cOLD Says:

    Leah Rose can get it
    Big Mike is dope, but he didnt coin the term street hop.

  157. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    *Daps nahggers*

    Ok so i just finished giving the Tip album its full review and i dont care if credibility gets shot up for this but, Paper Trail = sick madness

    and thats all she wrote!

  158. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    ^ Naw man I wish. You hit that joint up?

    I need to stop drinking so much during the evening to the point if I wanted to go out later on during the night dolo I can. I wasn’t in the condition to drive so I chilled.

    ^^^
    i was out there, but we ain’t get in. . . the fuckin line went all the way to k street!!!

    lotus was free all night, and the people that didn’t feel like fuckin w/ that line apparently went there. . . but i had like two quick bad experiences with stuck up bitches, so i went home. . .

  159. D. Billz Says:

    ^^^
    but, I will say this

    comin staright outta left field but relevant to this post:

    I gotta give it (nope) to the young bol chazz hamilton, he make some very lucid points re: Uncle Luke

    I was at one point carrying the cross and leading the anti-Hamilton crusade, but after listening to the interview, then backtracking and doing the knowledge to accquire the backstory that was the genesis of his disagreement with Mr. Campbell..and, I must say, if his subsequent handling (nevah that!) of teh beef (nope) is any indication, this rather musty looking youngster is wise beyond his years , and a rare talent to say the least.. albeit with a very small sampling / body of work.. I mean come on (no bukkake)

    ^Cosigns K7. After realizing he’s only 17 making statements like that I definitely turned up my level of respect. Very Garvey-like (which reminds me I gotta finish readin’ that Garvey book for class… FOCK).

    HE’S ONLY 17 (no jay ejaculating in the booth the first time young chris and the state prop boys tore it down on flex’ show at hot97.. which was une momente classique de hip-hop pour moi btw)

    ^LOL. Yo, I know I wasn’t the only one who rewinded those Young Gunz verses on Hot97 over and over again. I think my SP standom started on that day. And then it became official stannery when “One For Peedi” dropped.

  160. The watcherz Says:

    I think the bluprint 4 the blueprint 3 will really be synth sounding (just a guess) a lot of composition and ill sounds…..knowing kanye I think he gonna incoroporate real instruments with synths and make it have one cohesive feel similar to flashing lights……dj tmoop is really good for that 2.I think it will be dope but hey I have been wrong before
    And I will kill to hear jay on a premo track before he leave……or have premo and kanye colab on a beat where its sample being layered by synths like say hello on ag……ohh jay can even throw a swizzy track for ny too just to get cats hyped up……..idk I’m just looking at it from a producer standpoint……

  161. D. Billz Says:

    Yo, I haven’t heard the original SLU, but…

    Swagger Like Puff >>>

    I’m not gonna sit here and act like I wasn’t a big Piddy phanatic during the 90’s… like I aint want a job at Bad Boy weed carrying and dancing in the background of his videos. Though I think he’s a greedy try-sexual of all sorts these days that jerks artists, that song was lava to me. Reminded me of old Piddy during the “No Way Out” years… all the dancing with matching antics and boasting… when I thought my wack teenage life was the shit (and it was wack).

  162. Big Homie Says:

    i was out there, but we ain’t get in. . . the fuckin line went all the way to k street!!!

    ^ Dang it was like that? Step your vip game up and walk right in. Walk with me

    Maybe not …

  163. D. Billz Says:

    *dapz all Nahgroes in attendance*

  164. D. Billz Says:

    Alchemist, Jake One, Green Lantern >>>

    White producers… is runnin’ this rap shit.

  165. Big Homie Says:

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

  166. D. Billz Says:

    # Big Homie Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

    ^Yo, those new P. Crakk joints are OFFICIAL. So far, I can say that I fucks with all of the recent Amalgam Digital artists and I’d cop their barcoded albums (except for PD3 which had more tracks on the Whoo Kid mixtape version, but will definitely get the official album).

    That Jake One jumpie is on my list too.

  167. Ryan Says:

    Marco Polo

  168. The watcherz Says:

    Bun b > scarface

  169. spotrusherz Says:

    muggs, moss and scram jones too

  170. cOLD Says:

    though an argument could be made that none of the individual tracks on Blueprint are as dope as “What Goes Around”.

    ^ theres nothing to see here. Keep it moving.

  171. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Bun b > scarface
    ^^^
    No

  172. Ryan Says:

    marco polo had the hottest track on the new Large Pro

  173. spotrusherz Says:

    Bun b > scarface

    ^^

    bun is the man, but this is borderline disrespectful.

    billz, whats a pd3

  174. spotrusherz Says:

    hey baby doll wanna get down with a papi chulo

    http://tinyurl.com/3z4okc

  175. spotrusherz Says:

    hey baby doll wanna get down with a papi chulo like me

    tinyurl.com/3z4okc

  176. D. Billz Says:

    billz, whats a pd3

    ^ Public Domain 3, which, so far, will probably get my vote as mixtape of the year. All original beats/tracks on there. There are quite a few good mixtapes this year (most recent being Bar Exam 2), but he just captured an epic movement with that one.

  177. PHENOMENON Says:

    >>Why isn’t Faizon’s video calling out that faggot Flex on here?

    Because it’s foolishness.

  178. Big Homie Says:

    Yea I heard them Peedi tracks on his MySpace joint. They are official.

  179. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    which, so far, will probably get my vote as mixtape of the year.
    ^^^^
    No Nigger Tape>?

  180. D. Billz Says:

    tinyurl.com/3z4okc

    ^Smh. Group picture fail.

    And you probably the white guy on the far left. Lol

  181. spotrusherz Says:

    Public Domain 3, which, so far, will probably get my vote as mixtape of the year. All original beats/tracks on there. There are quite a few good mixtapes this year (most recent being Bar Exam 2), but he just captured an epic movement with that one.

    ^^

    word that shit is crazy. you like that new living comfortably blicka? quite a banger, if i might say so, sir.

  182. The watcherz Says:

    I fucks wit face heavy (pause) but bun just grabs me more musically………its debatable they both put years in….and they both have a certain amount of respect

    To me
    Bun b = jay z of h town
    Scarface= nas of h town

    I might have od with the comparsion but closes I can see it

  183. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    I’m not gonna sit here and act like I wasn’t a big Piddy phanatic during the 90’s… like I aint want a job at Bad Boy weed carrying and dancing in the background of his videos. Though I think he’s a greedy try-sexual of all sorts these days that jerks artists, that song was lava to me. Reminded me of old Piddy during the “No Way Out” years… all the dancing with matching antics and boasting… when I thought my wack teenage life was the shit (and it was wack).

    ^^
    like i said, it was waaaaaaaaaaaay more swaggerific.

    if diddy is back on his puff daddy, 1996 shit, there’s gonna be a problem. . . .

  184. spotrusherz Says:

    And you probably the white guy on the far left. Lol

    ^^

    lol dont hate, he’s one of them dope white producers you were talking about a few posts ago. and the picture is straight tarantino. im obviously the pitbull doppelganger btw.

  185. Big Homie Says:

    http://www.tinyurl.com/45j8mn

    ^I guess this is why the line at Park last night was wrapped around the block. Eye candy everywhere.

  186. D. Billz Says:

    # D_Block_4_Life Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:15 am

    which, so far, will probably get my vote as mixtape of the year.
    ^^^^
    No Nigger Tape>?

    ^Ahh, forgot about the Nigger Tape. But I like both mixtapes for TOTALLY two different reasons. One based merely on entertainment, and the other more so on content. In all fairness Nas is definitely #1 in the content category. Royce probably #1 in the lyric category (until Budden drop that Big Mike joint next month, yeah I said it, lol). Max B for all around entertaining mixtape. Not very lyrical, and the content is mostly about heffas, drugs, etc., but definitely sonically pleasing. Can a pen a song.

  187. spotrusherz Says:

    IMO bun b is better than scarface on a technical level, like the way he puts words together and intricate rhyme schemes. but other than that, its face all day.

  188. D. Billz Says:

    BigHomie

    Judging from the pics you’ve posted of the Park, it seems like a place I’d save for the Fall/Winter action. Definitely wanna be fly in a place like that and it was too hot to be tryin’ to get extra Dapper Danned up. But as cooler temps roll in, I will step up my casual dress game and give it a shot. I aint wanna roll in there on some straight B’more shit with just a polo shirt, bootcut jeans, and slip on loafs. I’m tryin’ to roll through with the wool slacks and what not. Lol

  189. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    Big Homie Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:20 am
    http://www.tinyurl.com/45j8mn

    ^I guess this is why the line at Park last night was wrapped around the block. Eye candy everywhere

    ^^^
    *SPITS UP Cherry Wheat & Henny*

  190. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    @BH

    it was literally a sea of hoes. . . but i dunno how poppin it was inside, b/c people was standin in the windows lookin at us in line. . . .

  191. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    (until Budden drop that Big Mike joint next month, yeah I said it, lol).
    ^^^^^
    Word, but isnt he dropping something called “Half Way House” with 14 new songs in late Oct? If so, that might be it…

  192. D. Billz Says:

    >>word that shit is crazy. you like that new living comfortably blicka? quite a banger, if i might say so, sir.

    ^ Haven’t heard it yet. It got some bad press in the comments section, but I’m bout to check it out for myself.

  193. D. Billz Says:

    # D_Block_4_Life Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    (until Budden drop that Big Mike joint next month, yeah I said it, lol).
    ^^^^^
    Word, but isnt he dropping something called “Half Way House” with 14 new songs in late Oct? If so, that might be it…

    ^You probably right. I think one drops in Oct. and another in Dec., but I got the dates twisted.

  194. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Dead and Gone >>>

  195. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    billz, i had on some jeans, kenneth coles, and a sweater. . . but yea, as the cooler winds move in from the east, i’ll be in that bitch lookin like a damn brooks brothers manniquin!

  196. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Oh no…

  197. D. Billz Says:

    Mr. Pap

    LF: Yo, you ever thought about starting up a fitness boot camp? My manz and ’em down here does that and he’s about to make bank. He doesn’t even have his license yet but he built a rapport at the gym he goes to and madd heffas (and I believe a few dudes) signed up for the class. I remember us discussing (or me clowning, rather, lol) about you doing personal training work and didn’t know if that was an option for you.

  198. Big Homie Says:

    it was literally a sea of hoes. . . but i dunno how poppin it was inside, b/c people was standin in the windows lookin at us in line. .

    ^ There’s 4 floors and it be so packed in there those looking out the window are the ones who do not have a choice because they couldnt post up anywhere else…lol. I’m sure it was poppin in there as always

    Billz, I feel you. I am usually in there in jeans and Polo. A lot of people are. The people in suits are usually ones who either work there, promoters or had that joint on at work. I don’t see myself chillin and then all of a sudden get dapped up in a suit like at 10 or 11 for a club..lol. But yea, when it gets colder out, I’ll throw on a suit every now and then depending on the event.

  199. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Does anyone know if “Pain and Glory 2” mixtape ever came out? If so where can i get that TING!

  200. D. Billz Says:

    billz, i had on some jeans, kenneth coles, and a sweater. . . but yea, as the cooler winds move in from the east, i’ll be in that bitch lookin like a damn brooks brothers manniquin!

    ^LOL. Yo, I’m bout to hit ’em with the flava this season (c) 90’s slang. Bout to step my casual hat game up. Common got some FLY ass joints. I remember he said he was starting a hat company but don’t know if ever went into fruition. On the realz… and no stannery… but Peedi’s hat game is official too. But my pops was tellin’ me it’s a store in Philly that’s OFFICIAL with the suit and hate game and it costs a grip. He pointed it out to me in one of those Barkley/Wade TMobile commercials, when Chuck was gettin’ fitted for a suit. My pops said he been there years ago.

    You from Philly righ’? You know which spot I’m talkin’ about?

  201. Big Homie Says:

    Its been cold past few nights so you could easily be straight with a suit or a button up and a sweater over it. The place gets packed, but like Love, they have the AC blasting up in there.

    And what I like about Park is they have an outdoor patio where you can go out and smoke. YEEEEES. SMH that you cant bring your drink outside with you after midnight. What is the point of that?…I dont know.

  202. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    She Touched It in a Suit.

  203. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    55 degrees this morn SMh

  204. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    D_Block_4_Life Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:37 am
    55 degrees this morn SMh

    ^^^
    i love it… i’m’A pull that Coyote out in a Minute…
    Chuuuuuuch!

  205. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    love it… i’m’A pull that Coyote out in a Minute…
    Chuuuuuuch!
    ^^^
    i like it too (no), i guess i just got used to it getting chilly in nov for the past 3 jears….

  206. D. Billz Says:

    Billz, I feel you. I am usually in there in jeans and Polo. A lot of people are. The people in suits are usually ones who either work there, promoters or had that joint on at work. I don’t see myself chillin and then all of a sudden get dapped up in a suit like at 10 or 11 for a club..lol. But yea, when it gets colder out, I’ll throw on a suit every now and then depending on the event.

    ^I aint tryin’ to roll up in there with an Armani on, but somethin’ better than the usual stuff I wear, yeah mean? For many of those people, they probably live right in the DC metropolitan so it’s nothin’ to them to just either, a.) rock the shit they had on at work, or b.) come through in somethin’ more lax since they frequent there often. But for me, I’m coming all the way from B’more and probably won’t hit up that spot often so I’m tryin’ to hurt feelings on the first night (no telling a blind date that she’s butt ugly).

  207. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Pizzi P >

  208. green eyes Says:

    good morning gentlemen: crazy, big homie, d block. billz, spot, papagiorgio, etc

    sweaters? *wrinkles nose, perplexed* in september?

  209. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    @ Billz
    Boyds
    http://www.boydsphila.com/directory/

    bring them credit cards, too. . . . it’s not a game in boyds

    and i’m actually thinkin about starting a studio for seniors. . . i look at it like this: the baby boomers are all turning 60+ in the next 10 years, so they’re gonna need someone with knowledge to help strengthen their joints and help live better lives.

    everybody focus on the same people, so i gotta be different.

    LF (but not really): tellin a girl you’re a personal trainer will ALWAYS illicit a positivie respone.

  210. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    What’s worst then not having bud???
    Not being able to get any…

    And what’s worst than that???
    A desert in the hood..

  211. O.F.A.T.S. Says:

    *Comes out right out of Lurker mode for>>>www.tinyurl.com/45j8mn

    Where the fuck is that at?????????????????

  212. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    green eyes Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:43 am
    good morning gentlemen: crazy, big homie, d block. billz, spot, papagiorgio, etc

    sweaters? *wrinkles nose, perplexed* in september?

    ^^^^
    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  213. green eyes Says:

    LF (but not really): tellin a girl you’re a personal trainer will ALWAYS illicit a positivie respone.

    ^ BOOOOOO. one i interviewed tried to feel me up. boo that shady motherfucker

  214. Big Homie Says:

    Morning Greenie

    Yup sweaters..cashmere ones too

  215. spotrusherz Says:

    *bumps old school short hair bob marley*

  216. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Morning Greens

  217. cOLD Says:

    ^ BOOOOOO. one i interviewed tried to feel me up. boo that shady motherfucker

    ^ ha.

  218. green eyes Says:

    boooooo cold

  219. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:44 am
    @ Billz
    Boyds
    http://www.boydsphila.com/directory/

    bring them credit cards, too. . . . it’s not a game in boyds

    and i’m actually thinkin about starting a studio for seniors. . . i look at it like this: the baby boomers are all turning 60+ in the next 10 years, so they’re gonna need someone with knowledge to help strengthen their joints and help live better lives.

    everybody focus on the same people, so i gotta be different.

    LF (but not really): tellin a girl you’re a personal trainer will ALWAYS illicit a positivie respone.

    ^^^
    i got a NEW one, i tell broads…
    “im an Angel Investor for .coms & blogs, we just invested $750grand into nahright.com ….go check it out, quickly becoming the Number 1 Hip-Hop website, the “Go-To” site for all new music.”
    *panties get wet*
    *fixes tie*
    *walks off with 2 smuts*

  220. D. Billz Says:

    *dapz Crazy88*

    Yooooo… you came through correct (none) with those porno jumpies in the inbox. I forwarded that shit to the homies. LOL. Leave it to you, of all people, to have an illegal amount of flickies in the stash.

  221. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    Bangbros = GOAT porn sites

  222. cOLD Says:

    Yooooo… you came through correct (none) with those porno jumpies in the inbox. I forwarded that shit to the homies. LOL. Leave it to you, of all people, to have an illegal amount of flickies in the stash.

    ^ a nigga could easily O.D on that Stash.

  223. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    D. Billz Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:53 am
    *dapz Crazy88*

    Yooooo… you came through correct (none) with those porno jumpies in the inbox. I forwarded that shit to the homies. LOL. Leave it to you, of all people, to have an illegal amount of flickies in the stash.

    ^^^
    Yo, when i found that S**t, i HAD to send it to everyone….

  224. gr3um5 Says:

    after dat FMF* airs on R.Kelly’s TV itw….

    FunkMasterFlex*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=218qvM5fV04
    Look a black man shots fired FMF !!!

  225. cOLD Says:

    Bangbros = GOAT porn sites

    ^not true, without an account you can only watch trailers, but the chicks do have some phat asses.

  226. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Anthony Hamilton>Charles Hamilton

  227. D_Block_4_Life Says:

    With an account >>

  228. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    I tell bitches I’m Eskay from Nahright.com..

    They say what.com

    I say Nahright.com

    They tell me they never heard of me or my site

    I get mad and start writing urls of all my(eskays) features…

    They ask do i get money from my site..

    I say shit, does a fat chick smell after a shower???

  229. D. Billz Says:

    Mr. Pap

    Yeeeeeeeeeah (c) Philly Freezer, THAT’S the place I’m sure pops was talkin’ about. And he told me a lot of celebs shop in there so I kinda figured you had to be ready to drop some doe cheese up in there. I’m not big on the Euro suits like that, but somethin’ like that seems worth it just for the hell of it.

    And your idea about a studio for the geezers sounds like a good look. Gotta focus on future markets rather than the here-and-now. Plus it gives you time to invest in property and have your own studio instead of holding a class at Bally’s or some other gym and they charge you a kung-fu grip.

  230. cOLD Says:

    …after watching the R.Kelly interview

    wifey: I can’t see how any grown man would want to sleep with 19yr olds, you would’nt want that would you

    me: *blank stare*

    wifey: of course if you wasnt with me, im saying

    me: *even blanker stare*

  231. cOLD Says:

    D_Block_4_Life Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:56 am
    With an account >>

    ^paying for porn = instant fail.

  232. cOLD Says:

    I say shit, does a fat chick smell after a shower???

    ^GATTTTTTTTTTT!

  233. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    With sites like pornhub.com who pays for porn, id only pay for a pinky site, if she spoke to me on webcam everynight befor bed, and had toilet cams and shit, thats it tho

  234. D. Billz Says:

    # cOLD Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Yooooo… you came through correct (none) with those porno jumpies in the inbox. I forwarded that shit to the homies. LOL. Leave it to you, of all people, to have an illegal amount of flickies in the stash.

    ^ a nigga could easily O.D on that Stash.

    ^Easily. And the thing is… I’m not even a porn type ninja (any more). But I was like a recovering dope fiend that relapsed when I saw all those zshares. I had to stop myself before I ended up stayin’ up all night watchin’ flicks. With no shorties in close proximity. I think you see where I’m going with this…

  235. green eyes Says:

    # cOLD Says:
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    …after watching the R.Kelly interview

    wifey: I can’t see how any grown man would want to sleep with 19yr olds, you would’nt want that would you

    me: *blank stare*

    wifey: of course if you wasnt with me, im saying

    me: *even blanker stare*

    ^ lmao

  236. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    cOLD Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 9:58 am
    …after watching the R.Kelly interview

    wifey: I can’t see how any grown man would want to sleep with 19yr olds, you would’nt want that would you

    me: *blank stare*

    wifey: of course if you wasnt with me, im saying

    me: *even blanker stare*
    ^^^
    Dies 1000 deaths

  237. b-ease Says:

    @crazy

    good looks son. like, for real. as cold said, an OD is very possible. I kept scrolling down, expecting it to end but it was like the never ending story, and I was riding one of those giant dog/horse things that the white kid had.

  238. Charles Oakley Says:

    That T.I. JT collabo is pretty great, I was surprised. Sounds like Timbo on the beat.

  239. green eyes Says:

    toilet cams and shit, thats it tho

    ^ digi you perv

  240. b-ease Says:

    ^paying for porn = instant fail.

    ^^
    Co-sig. I’ve paid for one porn in my life. The rest I have either stolen from friends or seen on the net. And I’ve watched ALOT of porn in my day…

  241. cOLD Says:

    it was like the never ending story, and I was riding one of those giant dog/horse things that the white kid had.

    ^lol, niggas is mad silly.

  242. Big Homie Says:

    I guess that is why I haven’t gone out clubbing this week yet, cause of the stash

  243. cOLD Says:

    *installs toilet cam and greens residence*

    *didnt know she lived with her aging grandma*

    *dies*

  244. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    ^ BOOOOOO. one i interviewed tried to feel me up. boo that shady motherfucker

    ^^^
    LOL! I believe it. . .there’s definitely some creeps. . .

    but money>>>>>> coppin cheap feels.

    and i’m talkin about when i’m out and about, and i’m talkin to a chick. . . it’ll be like

    her: what do you do
    me: i’m a personal trainer.
    her: oh really!? i need to work on [insert random body part chicks wanna work on 24/7]. you think you can help me.
    me: sure.
    her: ok, when can we start.
    me: whenever you’re ready.

  245. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    cOLD Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 10:06 am
    *installs toilet cam and greens residence*

    *didnt know she lived with her aging grandma*

    *dies*
    ^
    *But watches anyway*

    *Waits for Greens after work dump*

  246. CS88_RICH_UNCLE_PENNYBAGS Says:

    cOLD Says:

    September 19th, 2008 at 10:04 am
    it was like the never ending story, and I was riding one of those giant dog/horse things that the white kid had.

    ^lol, niggas is mad silly.

    ^^^
    lol.

  247. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    *Watches her get up and walk into tub without wiping*

    *Starts baiting*

    (nh)

  248. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Yo I posted that G-Dep mixtape on Nahning and will send out and eblast…

  249. b-ease Says:

    I was honestly overwhelmed by the stash.

  250. Big Homie Says:

    I think watching girls piss is sexxy…lol

  251. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Extra extra by jay electronica >

  252. Mr. Papagiorgio aka Cocky Maivia Says:

    BH, you gotta go sit in a corner on that one. . . . that shit is wild!

  253. gr3um5 Says:

    I’m Way better than all sites :

    I’m the goat as ll
    I’m the greatest lyricist as nasir

    enjoy it.
    Nas – Yall My Niggas
    http://www.livesteez.com/videos/watch/BZ3bBua
    very damn crazy video…

    Go Cop dat !!!
    ”Untitled” album!! support da ish !

  254. DIGITAL SCALES Says:

    Yo I posted that G-Dep mixtape on Nahning and will send out and eblast… ^^^^
    Nahggas still be on that shit????

  255. cOLD Says:

    I think watching girls piss is sexxy…lol

    ^yea it is but where do we draw the line , no 2girls1cup.

  256. blaze22 Says:

    Might fly to L.A and just fuck karrine
    Nahh fuck karrine
    Lets get bucks again
    And fuckin-spend dem bucks
    And then
    Just fuck karrine

  257. cOLD Says:

    to the year born god, all the gods strike hard
    fast from the swine hold down ya boulevard

  258. Big Homie Says:

    Naw let me explain…not just any chick.

    What I was reffering to are nice wifey type broads. Something about walking to the car leaving the club and a shorty has to go bad, pulls her skirt up, pulls the panties to the side and squats to pee while I stand there smoking a Newport and watch. She better not touch me afterwards though.

  259. gr3um5 Says:

    BunB > fACE
    nah i don’t think cuz Face’s catalogue is more important, but ..
    Definitely :
    SCARFACE is da King of South !!!

    BUN is da underground King of South !!!

    ——–
    sorry T.I you’re the commercial King of south
    right now, the more famous in this disc industry
    of the best rappers of the south.
    with Luda too.

  260. Theo Says:

    lol @ “while i stand there smoking a newport and watch”.

  261. Plug Says:

    canned coronas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    my boy who is a heinekin fanatic has converted to coronas after drinking one out the can

  262. eskay Says:

    >>YO ESKAY I BEEN AWAY, but i just checked that blog on kay slayyou put up earlier and that shit is directly for you nigga.and i know you not a nyc nigga since you hate so much and anything “north”.you a bitch ass blogger who is a hater and need to stop that shit.shit is getting too obvious and they have some dumbass niggas who actually ride with you on this blog.your part of the reason and small part of why nyc rap scene aint getting no love down south and out west.if it aint the “camel” your ass stay hatin

    wow, now I don’t show NY love?

    and I’m in NY nigga come see me if you wanna talk so tough.

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