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  1. RIGZ Says:

    im tired and frustrated with the same ol’ rap formula used by American MC’s anyway … british MC’s seem to not be as superficial as American MC’s lately …

    ^^^^

    This is true. Reason being:

    England is run by EMO songs. Emo songs are #1 CONSTANTLY over here. Thats the reason Kanye beat 50 out here.

    Superficial shit isnt really successfull over here. Our music is super-emo’d out lol.

    Amy & Coldplay wouldn’t have been the stars they are if they started in America…I dont think they would have got through the American system. They’d be KNOWN but only to musical elitists (SEE: Okayplayer).

    And that goes for most of the stars out here…

  2. Da PartyStarter Says:

    who the fuck is the “hip-hop government”?

    ^^^^
    “us” the federal nahright territories of the stolen land counsel .
    Our flag has spilt hennessy and blunt ashes on it.
    Our Nahtional antem is “Ether”
    Our national Bird is “Spoony Luv’s Mistress’’ a rare and wonderous creature.J/K, J/K, J/K
    our nahtional currency is “rapidshare files”

    El Prsidente: Eskay

    VP: DBillz

    Sec. of Defense: Greeneyes (DO NOT get on her bad side)

    Treasurer: Nation (of course)

    Dept. of Interior: Landlord

    Nahtional Photographer: CMac

    Director of Literature: Rigz

    Nahtional Archives director: DPS

    Overseer: ICON

    House Speaker: Boosie

    Minority Whip: Two-Times

    Director of Labor and Industies: BabyDoll

    This shit is like eating potato chips, lol

  3. Willy Swagger Says:

    I have seen that nigga Suge Knight now at a Charger game, the club and the Weezy show. I was like “suge what up dawg” he was like “what up nigga you everywhere” I was like “ya you too”. Merriman’s Security detail seems to be two ‘Ru’s which in diego is as safe as it gets

  4. landLORD Says:

    el feces loco Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    Niggas ignoring the quality shit I be importin
    like it aint important
    nah nahh homie/ so what you trynna implore then?
    you seem more comfortable around more men?
    tell me that aint the score meng?
    Killuminati that’s real spit
    one’s lurking…the other? she gon get on
    after she get off at 6

    —————

    … no disrespect E.F. Loco … but, she a’ight … however, she needs way more melanin’ …

  5. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    … im a fan of the great Nasir Jones … he’s just past his prime … period … he garners minimal excitement these days … i have no beef with him as a Supreme poet … but he’s incredibly boring as an overall artist …

    ***all of the marquee emcees these days are in their 30s, late 20s…the m’fukkas supposedly in their prime are garbage for the most part, so whatcha sayin (c) EPMD- is it that he’s past his prime, or that he has nothing fresh to introduce to the game, and he shoulda gone out on a high note (c) Seinfeld…who IS @ the top of their game, right now? Jay Electronica? Termanology? Truth is, if we hear them enough, even if they remain consistent, the buzz will fade eventually…

  6. lo k Says:

    yesss!

  7. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    —————

    … no disrespect E.F. Loco … but, she a’ight … however, she needs way more melanin’ …

    ***Co-sign…good on feces, for trying to get some females in here, though- she straight and all, but I was at least expecting Meadow Soprano, lol…

  8. Willy Swagger Says:

    I love NaS but Land has a point, no throwing rocks at the throne. I think NaS needs to make a track with Lauryn again.

    lounge933.channel933.com/kalvin/blog/2008/01/22/tuesdays_sd_dime_piece_of_the_day

    ^^ My Homie was dimepiece of the day, holler at her on myspace tell her Aram-Farouq the blogger sent you, lol

  9. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    I love NaS but Land has a point, no throwing rocks at the throne. I think NaS needs to make a track with Lauryn again.

    ***Like Lauryn’s gonna help anybody’s career, @ this point, lol…I have yet to hear a Nas/Erykah Badu collabo, but that would be a dope combo…late pass, if it’s been done, already….

  10. landLORD Says:

    … i cant put my finger on what Nas is missing, specifically (nh) … i just know that as great as he is, i berely play his CD’s, and i have all of them … only “Streets Disciple” gets spins anymore …

  11. el feces loco Says:

    … no disrespect E.F. Loco … but, she a’ight … however, she needs way more melanin’ …

    ^^^It’s cool I didnt invite her/them here based on looks alone..she is also a hip hop head..which is one of my pre requisites for invite.

    The glisseningpussy chick has a hiphop TV show in chicago and other various hip hop orientated activities.

    I don’t want to invite em over here and have them get the hate that’s aimed at me..The next 3 I invite I wont say i invited them…I’ll just have them lurk or whatever.

  12. el feces loco Says:

    landLORD Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    … i cant put my finger on what Nas is missing, specifically (nh)

    ^^3 foam cups, tattoos, some oversized european shades and a louis belt.

  13. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    —————

    … no disrespect E.F. Loco … but, she a’ight … however, she needs way more melanin’ …

    ***Co-sign…good on feces, for trying to get some females in here, though- she straight and all, but I was at least expecting Meadow Soprano, lol…

    ^^^ Icon, what the hell happened at Ballou yesterday? This is getting out of line, for real…

  14. KilluminattI7 Says:

    @ feces haha I see you, well done…

    I can’t see/ access shorty page (firewall at the plantation), but the naysayers how many other nahgers ha recruited any jointz on here..?

    waiting…

    Exactly.

    @WillSwagger:

    *peeps dime piece of the day*

    “VERRRYY NIICE” (c) Borat Sagdayev

  15. el feces loco Says:

    ***Co-sign…good on feces, for trying to get some females in here, though- she straight and all, but I was at least expecting Meadow Soprano, lol…

    ^^^She’s hotter than Meadow..If you seen her in person you’d co sign..It’s all good tho..I aint come here to play save that new NR member..I toss em in the pile and yall sort em out.

  16. Soprano Says:

    this is mad old song

  17. KilluminattI7 Says:

    I aint come here to play save that new NR member..I toss em in the pile and yall sort em out.

    ^^^
    thats what it is.

  18. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    @ CiCi- Ballou is notorious for shootings, though….i remember, back in like 2000, EIGHT students from the senior class had gotten killed…the student body @ Ballou is made up of kids from two rivaling projects- Barry Farms and Condon Terrace, so naturally, shit pops off all the time…

    archives.cnn.com/2000/US/06/13/ballou.high/

  19. Da PartyStarter Says:

    landLORD Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    … i cant put my finger on what Nas is missing, specifically (nh)

    ^^3 foam cups, tattoos, some oversized european shades and a louis belt.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    IMO…..
    It takes TIME and patience to listen to Nas. Folks today want insta-hits and easy access hooks and simplicity. Nas’ complexities and idioscracies in his rhymes forces the listener to pay attention. THIS is why he is either loved or hated. We want his beats to match his lyrical intensity. He feels the words are more important than the beat or at least equal. Rap today is the exact oppisite. Hip-Hop ALWAYS gave props to the beats, slices and breaks but once that slick talk started in ernest, M.C.’s have been trying to strike that perfect balance. Nas is an M.C.’s M.C. and he’s never been a casual listen.

  20. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Graduation is usually a happy time for U.S. high school seniors.

    At Washington’s Ballou Senior High School, however, the normally celebratory mood is marked by sadness this spring.

    Clad in their caps and gowns, students are bowing their heads in tribute to eight classmates who were either shot or stabbed to death this school year

  21. JayDeez Says:

    @ DPS… Nice Government breakdown.. On point.

    _______

    i cant put my finger on what Nas is missing, specifically (nh) … i just know that as great as he is, i berely play his CD’s, and i have all of them … only “Streets Disciple” gets spins anymore …

    ^^^ Same thing here. Got every one, but I feel da same way..

  22. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Over the past decade, five to seven Ballou students have been murdered each year. The killings were not on school grounds as was last year’s Columbine High School massacre in Littleton, Colorado, but the cumulative impact is severe.

  23. cMac Says:

    she can make it clap like a standin ovation

  24. Da PartyStarter Says:

    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks. That Pieces of a Dream sample is bananas. I wonder why nobody else ever tried to flip it. Dude could really spit..

  25. RIGZ Says:

    @ Fux:

    What was the Wayne show saying? I heard his live show is straight up amazing…Like he puts in 110% on the mic (not a chance).

  26. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks. That Pieces of a Dream sample is bananas. I wonder why nobody else ever tried to flip it. Dude could really spit..

    ***I always thought he was doing a half assed Method Man impression, for some reason, but that was a fun song…

  27. JayDeez Says:

    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks. That Pieces of a Dream sample is bananas. I wonder why nobody else ever tried to flip it. Dude could really spit..

    ^^^ That was my shit when it came out! I aint heard that in yeeeears..

  28. BabyDoll Says:

    I HATE THIS SONG! They play to death on the radio around here…

    *goes back to working and lurking*

  29. el feces loco Says:

    tinyurl.com/2rouck
    Maf P..for those who can’t get MS at work

    Nas is an M.C.’s M.C. and he’s never been a casual listen.

    ^^They should put that on his tombstone..well said…Nas is more of a scholar MC..his rival is like the dropout MC.

  30. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^^^My favorite song from that “Party Time” era, via missing in action artists- “My Crew Can’t Go For That”, by Smooth the Hustler…niggas flipped some ol’ Hall and Oates shit, lol…

  31. BabyDoll Says:

    Party Time OHHH It’s Party Time…damn ya’ll took it back!!!! LOL

  32. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    his rival is like the dropout MC.

    ***I should be thinkin’ bout Harvard/but that’s too far away?

    It’s weird to me, maybe not so much in retrospect, though, that some of the most intelligent ninjas, Nas, KRS, etc., never made it past high school…which would expose the educational system as a sham, if it weren’t for N.O.R.E., lol..

  33. Willy Swagger Says:

    Word Rigz Ima do me a little review over at alumnah, when i am done I will let ya’ll know. Lets just say dude did the “block is hot and back dat ass up” and after that it was all drought 3, remixes and Carter 1,2 and 3……..shit was bonkers. He seems to truly love being on the mic and very emotional. Shit you can feel and not going through the motions

  34. landLORD Says:

    Da PartyStarter Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks.

    —————-

    … good call …

  35. Willy Swagger Says:

    landLORD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
    Da PartyStarter Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks.

    —————-

    … good call …

    ^^ Co-Signs Land and DaP for the Hybrid Elantra

  36. RIGZ Says:

    i cant put my finger on what Nas is missing, specifically (nh) … i just know that as great as he is, i berely play his CD’s, and i have all of them … only “Streets Disciple” gets spins anymore …

    ^^^

    Because what people (especially Hip-Hoppers) fail to realize is this:

    Just because your an ill LYRICIST, doesnt mean your an ill ARTIST.

    And vice versa. They’re two completely different things.

    Nas has never been a great ARTIST. BUT, his lyricism is SO GREAT, we’ll listen to him anyway. Regardless of artistic mis-steps.

  37. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    LF, but I was playing Capital Punishment, yesterday, during my workout, and I thought I’d compare it to Ready to Die, just because, so I listened to them both back to back….both are nearly flawless debuts, but I might have to give it to Big, because Pun rarely switched up his flow…

  38. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Over the past decade, five to seven Ballou students have been murdered each year.

    ^^ Its crazy they straight opened fire on people like that yesterday, its ridiculous. I spent good time in Maryland and I remember when the one boy was murdered in the school cafeteria at Ballou. Out of line…

  39. 911 Says:

    IMO…..
    It takes TIME and patience to listen to Nas. Folks today want insta-hits and easy access hooks and simplicity. Nas’ complexities and idiosyncrasies in his rhymes forces the listener to pay attention. THIS is why he is either loved or hated. We want his beats to match his lyrical intensity. He feels the words are more important than the beat or at least equal. Rap today is the exact opposite. Hip-Hop ALWAYS gave props to the beats, slices and breaks but once that slick talk started in earnest, M.C.’s have been trying to strike that perfect balance. Nas is an M.C.’s M.C. and he’s never been a casual listen.

    >>Hands DaPartyStarter a Merit badge…Dap.{The spell check on firefox had red lines all over this lol…good shit nonetheless}

    1

  40. landLORD Says:

    KilluminattI7 Says:

    @ feces haha I see you, well done…

    I can’t see/ access shorty page (firewall at the plantation), but the naysayers how many other nahgers ha recruited any jointz on here..?

    waiting…

    Exactly.

    —————–

    … yo, K7 … i wasnt even gonna offer my opinion, but Brother EF Loco implied we were ignoring her arrival, so out of respect to his effort to post her info, i threw in my 99 cents …

    … and i’ve told a COUPLE broads who i know that lurk here and want to post, to stay out my business and off this site … (c) random “co-workers” AND ladyLORD …

  41. KilluminattI7 Says:

    Just heard “Party Time” by Tracey Lee. That shit STILL knocks. That Pieces of a Dream sample is bananas. I wonder why nobody else ever tried to flip it. Dude could really spit..

    ^^^ That was my shit when it came out! I aint heard that in yeeeears..

    ^^^
    HA! Co-sign (both

  42. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Nas has never been a great ARTIST. BUT, his lyricism is SO GREAT, we’ll listen to him anyway. Regardless of artistic mis-steps.

    ***I gotta disagree with that on, RIGZ…consistently, Nas has at least one track on every album that is mind blowing (none)…I think that he needs to pay more consideration to picking out beats, but lyrically and delivery-wise, not many out there can see him, and he crafts songs that are timeless, IMO…don’t believe me? Play Illmatic, right now…I Am…shit, play “I Gave You Power”, “Du Rags”, “Thief’s Theme”, “Project Windows”, whatever….I think that he’s always trying to branch out to achieve that Jay-Z level, i.e, “dumb down for dollars” (Oochie Wally, Nastradamus, Makings of A Perfect Bitch), but that kind of success has eluded him…dude is incapable of properly watering down his talent for mass appeal….

  43. Digital scales Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq3ajhhHxuA

    aww man damn

  44. Da PartyStarter Says:

    ***I always thought he was doing a half assed Method Man impression, for some reason, but that was a fun song…

    ^^^
    The whole “mush mouf” thing. Yeah, I could see that. But, you know how for those three minutes and some seconds, the rhymes meshed perfectly with the beat on some party shit? This song is it. Like, “I Just Wanna Love You” is the PERFECT party jawn but it’s exclusive and some folks couldn’t relate ’cause of cash restrictions. Plus it was one verse too long. “Hot In Herre” was almost perfect, but the simpleton rhymes and too familiar sample keeps it from perfection. But “Party Time”? Perfectly obscure but familiar sample, competently complex lyrical arrangement, RELATABLE and just long enough.

    ” Dig up in a chicken’s midsection..” -my favorite bar… lol

  45. KilluminattI7 Says:

    I despise this track..due to the fact they they play it to dideath pon radio around here…

    Word to BabyD

  46. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^^ Its crazy they straight opened fire on people like that yesterday, its ridiculous. I spent good time in Maryland and I remember when the one boy was murdered in the school cafeteria at Ballou. Out of line…

    ***Ballou’s out of line, in general…I remember when a boyfriend/girlfriend got killed outside of a football game…but the truth is, you can’t stop niggas, regardless of age, from fighting over territory they don’t, or never will own…and that’s a tragedy, IMO….

  47. cOLD Says:

    IMO…..
    It takes TIME and patience to listen to Nas. Folks today want insta-hits and easy access hooks and simplicity. Nas’ complexities and idioscracies in his rhymes forces the listener to pay attention. THIS is why he is either loved or hated. We want his beats to match his lyrical intensity. He feels the words are more important than the beat or at least equal. Rap today is the exact oppisite. Hip-Hop ALWAYS gave props to the beats, slices and breaks but once that slick talk started in ernest, M.C.’s have been trying to strike that perfect balance. Nas is an M.C.’s M.C. and he’s never been a casual listen.

    ^this is some of the realist shit ever written on Nahright
    —————————–

    Nas has never been a great ARTIST. BUT, his lyricism is SO GREAT, we’ll listen to him anyway. Regardless of artistic mis-steps.

    ^and who the fuck said this, so I can know who not to take seriously

  48. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Hot In Herre” was almost perfect, but the simpleton rhymes and too familiar sample keeps it from perfection.

    **That first joint Nelly came out with , with that “Shimmy Shimmy Cocoa puff” hook, whatever it was called, is a classic, IMO, and I don’t even fuck with Nelly (no Ashanti) like that….

  49. KilluminattI7 Says:

    … yo, K7 … i wasnt even gonna offer my opinion, but Brother EF Loco implied we were ignoring her arrival, so out of respect to his effort to post her info, i threw in my 99 cents …

    … and i’ve told a COUPLE broads who i know that lurk here and want to post, to stay out my business and off this site … (c) random “co-workers” AND ladyLORD …

    ——
    LMAO!! Leave it to Land… aight bredjren Duly Noted

  50. Pwelbs Says:

    Why do I like this video?

  51. Willy Swagger Says:

    Thiefs theme, is by far and away a banger that was slept on IMO. That shit goes so hard. I dare ya’ll to find a better song than “one mic”

  52. Willy Swagger Says:

    (no Ashanti)

    ^^ *watches the Gotti’s yes Lorenzo* *dies*

  53. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Willy Swagger Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
    Thiefs theme, is by far and away a banger that was slept on IMO. That shit goes so hard. I dare ya’ll to find a better song than “one mic”

    **My little brother (no Phonte) said it perfectly- if One Mic was just a poem on paper, it would still blow your mind…that joint is just off the charts dope, the way he switches up the urgency in his cadence to indicate the escalation of conflict- how isn’t he a great artist?

  54. Digital scales Says:

    This was a fun video

  55. el feces loco Says:

    Nas has never been a great ARTIST. BUT, his lyricism is SO GREAT, we’ll listen to him anyway. Regardless of artistic mis-steps.

    ^^^You fuckin crazy..the amount of pictures this nigga has painted for us?…An Artist is what?

    father reinvents himself and takes chances(who killed it) where most other rapper dont..that to me is being ARTISTIC…Nas provokes thoughts and dialogue about subject matter that other rappers can’t. I know homie doesnt pop mo, and buy teams and be on TMZ for farting… but at the end of the day I guess I like Nas for the same reasons I like Joe Buddens…them niggas rap TO me..not AT me..(naw)

  56. JayDeez Says:

    ^^^My favorite song from that “Party Time” era, via missing in action artists- “My Crew Can’t Go For That”, by Smooth the Hustler…niggas flipped some ol’ Hall and Oates shit, lol…

    ^^ Co-sign. That one too. I remember that jawn was on the Nutty Professor Sndtrk.

    Ya’ll remember when soundtracks used to be hot?

  57. !Ven-Tech? Says:

    I’m one of the best
    You’re one of the worst
    Gun on your chest
    Blood on your shirt

    *dappage*

    Best Nas track…2nd childhood, or any Preemo beat he touched.

  58. RIGZ Says:

    icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:57 pm
    Nas has never been a great ARTIST. BUT, his lyricism is SO GREAT, we’ll listen to him anyway. Regardless of artistic mis-steps.

    ***I gotta disagree with that on, RIGZ…consistently, Nas has at least one track on every album that is mind blowing (none)…I think that he needs to pay more consideration to picking out beats, but lyrically and delivery-wise, not many out there can see him, and he crafts songs that are timeless,

    ___________________________________________________________

    But you just kinda proved my point….

    Picking beats to represent your sound correctly is ARTISTRY 101. Yeah, Nas is the greatest lyricist ever. But on an artistic level, he need guidence.

    Getting it right for a FEW songs on every album aint a good record…Nas aint got that many to 10 albums (IMO), but if your JUST TALKING ABOUT LYRICS? He IS the top 10…

    He needs to call Serch…

    All I’m really saying is the main reason to check for a NaS album is LYRICISM, not to really hear the complete package of an album (SEE: beats & sequencing). I aint mad at that, I’m just sayin…

  59. Words is Born Says:

    nas could rhyme…

    i still need to re-visit nastradamous… i have a feeling it’s not as whack as people (myself included) thought in the moment…

  60. !Ven-Tech? Says:

    The best Smooth tha Hustler track is “Broken Language”

  61. RIGZ Says:

    Words is Born Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
    nas could rhyme…

    ^^^

    Wow @ COULD. Nasir’s the best lyricist of all-time IMO. He just dont make nice LPs…

  62. Da PartyStarter Says:

    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    The best Smooth tha Hustler track is “Broken Language
    ^^^^
    the Co-signer,
    The point aggree-er,
    the sense maker…lol you get it…

  63. el feces loco Says:

    yo, K7 … i wasnt even gonna offer my opinion, but Brother EF Loco implied we were ignoring her arrival, so out of respect to his effort to post her info, i threw in my 99 cents …

    ^^rispeck..ah nuh nuh big ting..it’s all good

    (Oochie Wally, Nastradamus, Makings of A Perfect Bitch), but that kind of success has eluded him…dude is incapable of properly watering down his talent for mass appeal….

    ^^^That’s like telling Michelangelo to paint the sistine chapel white just cause you ran out of colored paint.

  64. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    The best Smooth tha Hustler track is “Broken Language”

    ***Smooth the Huster was maaaaaaaad underrated

  65. !Ven-Tech? Says:

    Da PartyStarter Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    The best Smooth tha Hustler track is “Broken Language
    ^^^^
    the Co-signer,
    The point aggree-er,
    the sense maker…lol you get it…

    ^^^

    The laugh out louder!

  66. Words is Born Says:

    and whats this with picking beats? I mean.. somebody like.. ehhh… Fat Joe for instance, will pick some BANGERS… because those are the only songs he can really make. Singles.. heavy street bangers for the whip.. etc… and he needs the beat to drive his song.

    As an emcee Nas lives in between his beats… so he needs beats with space. Production-wise, he doesn’t pick the greatest standalone tracks, but most of the time he’s picking joints that blend well with his style and what he’s trying to do.

    For example… “Live Now” off of Streets Disciple. That beat might be boring with your average emcee rhyming over it. Or maybe “You’re the Man” on Stillmatic. Not everyone is gonna shine over a beat like that… but it should be about what the beat brings out of you, not just the beat alone.

  67. Words is Born Says:

    and whats this with picking beats? I mean.. somebody like.. ehhh… Fat Joe for instance, will pick some BANGERS… because those are the only songs he can really make. Singles.. heavy street bangers for the whip.. etc… and he needs the beat to drive his song.

    As an emcee Nas lives in between his beats… so he needs beats with space. Production-wise, he doesn’t pick the greatest standalone tracks, but most of the time he’s picking joints that blend well with his style and what he’s trying to do.

    For example… “Live Now” off of Streets Disciple. That beat might be boring with your average emcee rhyming over it. Or maybe “You’re the Man” on Stillmatic. Not everyone is gonna shine over a beat like that… but it should be about what the beat brings out of you, not just the beat alone.

  68. Willy Swagger Says:

    What about Trigga the Gambla…….or did I just make that shit up

  69. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^^^That’s like telling Michelangelo to paint the sistine chapel white just cause you ran out of colored paint.

    ***Ironically, Michaelangelo Buonarotti is my favorite artist, and Nas is my favorite emcee….I used to sketch out mad Michaelangelo stuff when I was in high school….

  70. KilluminattI7 Says:

    ^^^You fuckin crazy..the amount of pictures this nigga has painted for us?…An Artist is what?

    father reinvents himself and takes chances(who killed it) where most other rapper dont..that to me is being ARTISTIC…Nas provokes thoughts and dialogue about subject matter that other rappers can’t. I know homie doesnt pop mo, and buy teams and be on TMZ for farting… but at the end of the day I guess I like Nas for the same reasons I like Joe Buddens…them niggas rap TO me..not AT me..(naw)

    ^^^
    Pretty much jusst summedit up…

  71. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Willy Swagger Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    What about Trigga the Gambla…….or did I just make that shit up

    ***that’s real…DV Alias Khrist, too, right?

  72. Words is Born Says:

    Willy Swagger Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    What about Trigga the Gambla…….or did I just make that shit up

    ^lol..

  73. JayDeez Says:

    Rigz makin some good points on Nas. I gotta co-sign.

  74. !Ven-Tech? Says:

    Words is Born Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    and whats this with picking beats? I mean.. somebody like.. ehhh… Fat Joe for instance, will pick some BANGERS… because those are the only songs he can really make. Singles.. heavy street bangers for the whip.. etc… and he needs the beat to drive his song.

    ^^

    So what happens when I’m not driving? What happens when I strap my Zune on my arm and jump on my dyno wit da black mags (black mags, dyno wit da black mags, black mags, black mags, black mags, dyno wit da…)

  75. el feces loco Says:

    **My little brother (no Phonte) said it perfectly- if One Mic was just a poem on paper, it would still blow your mind…that joint is just off the charts dope, the way he switches up the urgency in his cadence to indicate the escalation of conflict- how isn’t he a great artist?

    ^^Naw son..that was all lyricism..artisticness didnt have shit to do with that..he’s not an artist..GTFOH.

    Some of you wouldnt know good music if yall signed to Kanye’s label(c) Me

  76. BabyDoll Says:

    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
    Da PartyStarter Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    The best Smooth tha Hustler track is “Broken Language
    ^^^^
    the Co-signer,
    The point aggree-er,
    the sense maker…lol you get it…

    ^^^

    The laugh out louder!

    ^clever…LOL

  77. eskay Says:

    Gnoz stay losing.

    Weezy update added:

    http://nahright.com/2008/01/23/feds-snatch-lil-wayne-in-phoenix/

  78. BabyDoll Says:

    Gee, this Nas is the God Emcee argument never gets old….

  79. KilluminattI7 Says:

    What about Trigga the Gambla…….or did I just make that shit up

    ^^^
    *floor*

  80. eskay Says:

    Smoothe da Hustler > Gnoz

  81. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    For example… “Live Now” off of Streets Disciple. That beat might be boring with your average emcee rhyming over it. Or maybe “You’re the Man” on Stillmatic. Not everyone is gonna shine over a beat like that… but it should be about what the beat brings out of you, not just the beat alone.

    **Even “I Gave You Power”, or “One Luv”…dude cooks up greatness from average ingredients, IMO…shit, “Blunt Ashes” was dope, despite aiight Chris Webber production…in that respect, he reminds me a lot of Common, who was also able to make an substantial impact with a lot of “ehhh” beats…

  82. RIGZ Says:

    Words is Born Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    and whats this with picking beats?

    ^^^

    Beacuse the BEAT is 50% if not more of your SONG, which I’m gonna judge.

    If your beats WACK (or wack FOR YOU), you just lost 50%.

    Thats why beats are so important.

    You cant name me ONE classic that has wack beats. I could name you alot of classics with sub-par lyrics though….

    Thats why beats are so important. I hear the beat before I hear you rhyme. Its 50% of the song.

  83. Da PartyStarter Says:

    Every GREAT MC has thier “Opus”

    KRS- Poetry, Built Ya Skills…

    Nas- One Mic, Drunk By Myself, Street Desciple, Rule (don’t Sleep)

    Mobb Deep- Shook Ones Pt.2, Quiet Storm

    Treach- Ghetto Bastard

    MC Ren- Real Niggas

    Biggie – Kick In the Door

    Cube- his WHOLE first and second album

    Scarface- Albums Worth, also

    Rakim- Michophone Fiend, Follow The Leader, I ain’t No Joke, Check Out My Melody

    Just Ice- Goin’ Way Back

    Fresh Prince- He’s The DJ, I’m The Rapper…

    What is Jigga’s Opus? – You Must Love Me? , Lucky Me? Ahhh.. Hovi Baby!!!

    I could go on
    and on

  84. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Willy Swagger Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
    Thiefs theme, is by far and away a banger that was slept on IMO. That shit goes so hard. I dare ya’ll to find a better song than “one mic”

    **My little brother (no Phonte) said it perfectly- if One Mic was just a poem on paper, it would still blow your mind…that joint is just off the charts dope, the way he switches up the urgency in his cadence to indicate the escalation of conflict- how isn’t he a great artist?

    ^^ My English teacher in high school used Nas’ “Second Childhood” in one of our lessons. I straight fell out the chair lol

  85. cOLD Says:

    Gee, this Nas is the God Emcee argument never gets old….

    ^you can tell certain people by who the like, if you dont understand or get Nas, … I know exactly what type of individual you are. Thats no disrespect, but I know you.

  86. el feces loco Says:

    # icon (trillbert arenas) Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    ^^^That’s like telling Michelangelo to paint the sistine chapel white just cause you ran out of colored paint.

    ***Ironically, Michaelangelo Buonarotti is my favorite artist, and Nas is my favorite emcee….I used to sketch out mad Michaelangelo stuff when I was in high school….

    ^^And then you stopped when you started listening to Jay?…started drawing pictures of camels? What?

  87. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Rakim- Michophone Fiend, Follow The Leader, I ain’t No Joke, Check Out My Melody

    **Rakim was undisputed, up until “Don’t Sweat the Technique”- some gems on that album, but so much was missing…

    ***and for the record, JayZ has too many classics, to name..him and Nas breathe in that rarefied air of the gods (n/h)

  88. !Ven-Tech? Says:

    CiCi The Intern Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    ^^ My English teacher in high school used Nas’ “Second Childhood” in one of our lessons. I straight fell out the chair lol

    ^^
    which makes me feel ancient. From now on I go by “Grandmaster Ven”

    and on that note, I’m out, peace nah

  89. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^^And then you stopped when you started listening to Jay?…started drawing pictures of camels? What?

    ***LOL, I don’t even listen to Jay like that, but I respect his talent…I’m more of a Nas, Outkast, type of listener…I like my hip hop a little more cerebral, and outside of a few missteps, both deliver that in spades (no racist in the 70s)….I’m still an artist, BTW, pretty decent @ it, too….

  90. BabyDoll Says:

    cOLD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    Gee, this Nas is the God Emcee argument never gets old….

    ^you can tell certain people by who the like, if you dont understand or get Nas, … I know exactly what type of individual you are. Thats no disrespect, but I know you.

    ^LOL…you don’t know shit. No disrespect

  91. yaboy Says:

    *daps*

    funny, when i was in school i lived in the same town that chick mafia p is from…

  92. Words is Born Says:

    @ RIGZ —

    I feel you. Obviously if a beat is whack it’s gonna be hard to listen to the song. But what I’m talking about is really dope songs that don’t necessarily have exceptional beats. The beats could be average… like… ehhh…. “I used to love H.E.R.” by Common. That beat isn’t mind blowing… but the song is dope. Sometimes the beat can be understated and the artist jumps on it and brings the song to life.

    If i tried to name a classic with “whack” or “subpar” beats, you would disagree.. because if my theory is correct, the lyrics elevate your perception of the beat.. where the beat alone might not be as thrilling.. therefore you would perceive the beat to be better than I might if i’m judging it as an instrumental alone.

  93. el feces loco Says:

    # BabyDoll Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Gee, this Nas is the God Emcee argument never gets old….

    youzsharealgoodlooka(c)F.O.E

  94. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^^
    which makes me feel ancient. From now on I go by “Grandmaster Ven”

    ***You knoooooooow? I used to listen to Poor Righteous Teachers on the school bus, lol…

  95. eskay Says:

    smh @ the Gnoz nut-huggery going on in here right now.

  96. Words is Born Says:

    I’m still an artist, BTW, pretty decent @ it, too…

    ^hmm… maybe thats why u like streets disciple… interesting.

  97. Da PartyStarter Says:

    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    CiCi The Intern Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    ^^ My English teacher in high school used Nas’ “Second Childhood” in one of our lessons. I straight fell out the chair lol

    ^^
    which makes me feel ancient. From now on I go by “Grandmaster Ven”

    and on that note, I’m out, peace nah

    ^^^^^^^^^
    If you feel old ’cause of this, man then I’m DEAD. LOL

    Lemme tell you whipper snappers something, when I was in tenth grade, the Cold Crush/Grand Master Caz tape with “Evette” on it was JUST makin’ it to Philly. “Rockit” had JUST blown up and Suede Pumas was the shit for the FIRST time. LOL

  98. Da PartyStarter Says:

    eskay Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    smh @ the Gnoz nut-huggery going on in here right now.

    ^^^^^^^^
    you mad? lol

  99. RIGZ Says:

    SMH @ eveytime someone talks about Nas, someone brings up Jay.

    FUCK THE JAY VS NAS THING.

    I’m saying:

    Nas = the best lyricist ever in hip-hop. Lyricist.

    Making good ALBUMS, defines you as an ARTIST. Not lyrics, not songs, not swagger, not nothing. But. YOUR ALBUM.

    You dudes are bringing up SONGS, I’m talking about LPs…

    You cant honestly sit here & tell me you think every Nas album is nice….Maybe I’m on a spaceship…I listen to most Nas LPs for the lyricism only. His bars & beats rarely gel together IMO.

  100. cOLD Says:

    ^LOL…you don’t know shit. No disrespect

    ^not you per se, (stop getting aggy) just saying people in general who throw hate.

  101. yaboy Says:

    nas >>>>

  102. eskay Says:

    just by coincidence, the person in the cube next to me is playing Takeover.

  103. Words is Born Says:

    eskay Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    smh @ the Gnoz nut-huggery going on in here right now.

    ^
    agreed.. and i’m guilty, i suppose. nas is one of the few emcees i like (pardon) to discuss…

    better than talkin’ bout soulja boy, tho.

  104. cOLD Says:

    question: how do you addapt to somthing that is unatural but necessary for survival.

  105. JayDeez Says:

    Point blank… Nas slips more than yall will admit.

  106. eskay Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    cOLD and Feces know this.

  107. yaboy Says:

    gnoz

    ^ where is that from?

  108. RIGZ Says:

    “I used to love H.E.R.” by Common. That beat isn’t mind blowing…

    ^^^^

    I disagree. If Nas rapped over beats like that all the time, he’d have 5 Illmatics by now.

    Understated doesnt equal Wack.

    Every artist has shit they gel best with. Whether they know it or not. Nas doesnt gel with the beats he pick IMO…

  109. BabyDoll Says:

    cOLD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
    ^LOL…you don’t know shit. No disrespect

    ^not you per se, (stop getting aggy) just saying people in general who throw hate.

    ^STOP TELLING ME I’M AGGY WHEN I’M NOT! LOL And I am not “hating” on Nas or anyone having this convo for the 1429583958129849127839th time. *God I hate the word “hate”* I like Nas…I respect him and his lyrical talent…but he is not the GOAT or anything imo…sorry if you think you know me because of that.

  110. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Lemme tell you whipper snappers something, when I was in tenth grade, the Cold Crush/Grand Master Caz tape with “Evette” on it was JUST makin’ it to Philly. “Rockit” had JUST blown up and Suede Pumas was the shit for the FIRST time. LOL

    ***Gotdamn, lol…10th grade? No way…

  111. yaboy Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    ^

    i think anybody that is a reg or even a semi reg knows this…

  112. yaboy Says:

    STOP TELLING ME I’M AGGY WHEN I’M NOT! LOL And I am not “hating” on Nas or anyone having this convo for the 1429583958129849127839th time. *God I hate the word “hate”* I like Nas…I respect him and his lyrical talent…but he is not the GOAT or anything imo…sorry if you think you know me because of that.

    ^
    *slips nyquil in babydoll’s drink*

  113. KilluminattI7 Says:

    STOP TELLING ME I’M AGGY WHEN I’M NOT!

    ^^^UMMM.. bABY d U MAD?

    lol j/k

  114. landLORD Says:

    eskay Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    cOLD and Feces know this.

    ————————–

    … God’s Son across the God’s Son …

  115. JayDeez Says:

    Rigz… Ima co-sign one last time. Your Nas analysis is rather accurate and fair.

    On that note.. It’s lunch time.

  116. Willy Swagger Says:

    Ok I did a review of the Weezy show, Whatever click if ya’ll want, No disrespect to Eskay the shagged one. He can click too.

  117. RIGZ Says:

    yaboy Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    ^

    i think anybody that is a reg or even a semi reg knows this…

    ^^^

    Lurkers know this…

    I witnessed this shit a GAZILLION times when I was lurking (no Pedo). I always used to say to myself “These dudes are dumb for repeating this same shit over & over…”

    And now here I am….

    I lost.

  118. Da PartyStarter Says:

    I din’t get up on jay until the “Annie” album. I was resistant at first, tired of the “drug talk” but Jay was just so damn…GOOD at it. like he was schoolin ME on some shit. Like, we was havin’ this convo and i’m just sittin’ there noddin’ my head, not to the beat but IN AGGREEMENT. lol He was just that shit. And he ain’t sound LIKE NOBODY. Plus, his evolution/de-evolution was/is astounding.How many catz FIRST albums are more complex than their subsequent albums? Like how Fat Joe is that cat that studied and sweated and worked(paid for it) on his craft only to get a “C+” and Jigga walks in the class from grindin’ all night and gets an “A+” on the “M.C. Test”. That’s why, “Somebody Hatin'”..

  119. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    I disagree. If Nas rapped over beats like that all the time, he’d have 5 Illmatics by now.

    Understated doesnt equal Wack.

    ***Like I said in my original argument, Common falls into the Nas category…his beats were always inferior to the vocals…up unti “One Day It’ll All Make Sense” (or was it “some day”)- in fact, the first consistent Common joint, beatwise, was “Like Water for Chocolate”…IMO, lyricism and delivery>beats, but it’s nice when they both come together (no tantra)…not many cats listen to instrumentals, and there have been some dope instrumental albums out….

  120. Words is Born Says:

    Lurkers know this…

    I witnessed this shit a GAZILLION times when I was lurking (no Pedo). I always used to say to myself “These dudes are dumb for repeating this same shit over & over…”

    And now here I am….

    I lost.

    ^^ lol.. i’m over here looking back to see how the whole thing came up again.

    anyway…

  121. green eyes Says:

    party sez:
    Sec. of Defense: Greeneyes (DO NOT get on her bad side)

    ^ good advice

    cOLD Says:
    question: how do you addapt to somthing that is unatural but necessary for survival.

    ^ evolution

  122. RIGZ Says:

    …Dont sleep on the production on “Ressurection”…

    NO ID did his thing on that album…

  123. Willy Swagger Says:

    Yo this convo never brings up a point I havent heard. Click My and what not, Thats the last time. Thanks

  124. Da PartyStarter Says:

    ***Gotdamn, lol…10th grade? No way…
    ^^^
    Way…lol
    I told y’all I’m older than Jigga but younger than KRS…
    I went to HIGH school (‘Brook) with Steady B and Will Smith. No I din’t know them like that. Just the “head nod” shit….lol

  125. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    ***So has “Jay Z Buys the Greatest Lunch, Ever- a Sammich with mustard made of liquified gold” (n/h), and Biggie vs. Pac- but yeah, we have basic coverage we do- kinda like sports and weather on local news…

  126. cOLD Says:

    evolution

    explain green

  127. Words is Born Says:

    icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    I disagree. If Nas rapped over beats like that all the time, he’d have 5 Illmatics by now.

    Understated doesnt equal Wack.

    ***Like I said in my original argument, Common falls into the Nas category…his beats were always inferior to the vocals…up unti “One Day It’ll All Make Sense” (or was it “some day”)- in fact, the first consistent Common joint, beatwise, was “Like Water for Chocolate”…IMO, lyricism and delivery>beats, but it’s nice when they both come together (no tantra)…not many cats listen to instrumentals, and there have been some dope instrumental albums out….

    ^^
    yeah i wasn’t saying understanded = whack…

    but I was listening to Like Water for Chocolate the other day. beats are super solid on it.

  128. BabyDoll Says:

    yaboy Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    STOP TELLING ME I’M AGGY WHEN I’M NOT! LOL And I am not “hating” on Nas or anyone having this convo for the 1429583958129849127839th time. *God I hate the word “hate”* I like Nas…I respect him and his lyrical talent…but he is not the GOAT or anything imo…sorry if you think you know me because of that.

    ^
    *slips nyquil in babydoll’s drink*

    ^*passes it to unsuspecting lurker in the corner* Welcome to Nah!

  129. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    RIGZ Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    …Dont sleep on the production on “Ressurection”…

    NO ID did his thing on that album…

    ***Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Common fan from way back- I have even PURCHASED every album since he first came out, but I think that he elevated a little when he moved away from NO ID, as an exclusive producer….

  130. KilluminattI7 Says:

    Lurkers know this…

    I witnessed this shit a GAZILLION times when I was lurking (no Pedo). I always used to say to myself “These dudes are dumb for repeating this same shit over & over…”

    And now here I am….

    I lost.

    ^^^
    Yup.

    True Story..

    I used to get type frustrated readin how many Nasir Naysayers it was on here… then it took me gettin on here to realize only thing more frustratin i s actually gettin on here, voicing YOUR OPINION on said debate and then gettin told your wrong.

    I happen to be on eof the (Minority? Majority? I dunno anymore..) that beleive Nas is an MC of nearly unparalleled exquisiteness (nhjic), and nobody can/ willconvince me otherwise, as I’m sure same thing goes for all you Jay Stans, Budden stans, Ye stans, and so on and so forth…

    So, it kind of is to really engage (pause) anybody on this topic.

    but still

    Nas > Jay

  131. landLORD Says:

    … “One Day It’ll All Make Sense” = Common’s breakthrough LP … classic …

    … “Like Water for Chocolate” = Common’s best LP … classic …

    … some give “Be” classic status … (i dont) …

    … Common lp’s are far superior to NaS’ lp’s …

    … i will even go out on a limb and say overall as a complete artist:

    … Common > NaS (IMO) …

    … and the disparity between them as just pure mc’s isnt that great either …

  132. Da PartyStarter Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yes, but I’ve only witnessed 19 of them and, hell, when all else fails, talk about:
    A. Nas

    B. Jigga

    C. Hate On Wheezy

    D. Hate On Curtis

    E. Start an “ether” war with somebody…

    What can I say, I’ma a creature of habit….lol

  133. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # Da PartyStarter Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    !Ven-Tech? Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    CiCi The Intern Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    ^^ My English teacher in high school used Nas’ “Second Childhood” in one of our lessons. I straight fell out the chair lol

    ^^
    which makes me feel ancient. From now on I go by “Grandmaster Ven”

    and on that note, I’m out, peace nah

    ^^^^^^^^^
    If you feel old ’cause of this, man then I’m DEAD. LOL

    Lemme tell you whipper snappers something, when I was in tenth grade, the Cold Crush/Grand Master Caz tape with “Evette” on it was JUST makin’ it to Philly. “Rockit” had JUST blown up and Suede Pumas was the shit for the FIRST time. LOL

    ^^ Damn, y’all making me feel like a baby lol

  134. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    … i will even go out on a limb and say overall as a complete artist:

    … Common > NaS (IMO) …

    ***I can’t even comment on that one- it’s a photo finish, IMO…

  135. cOLD Says:

    I went to HIGH school (’Brook) with Steady B and Will Smith. No I din’t know them like that. Just the “head nod” shit….lol

    ^if you crossed paths with will smith would he recognize you

  136. yaboy Says:

    cosign killu

  137. rex hussla Says:

    Nas and Jay BOTH suck!
    (ducks and covers under office desk)

  138. Words is Born Says:

    icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    … i will even go out on a limb and say overall as a complete artist:

    … Common > NaS (IMO) …

    ***I can’t even comment on that one- it’s a photo finish, IMO…

    ^^
    yeah.. close call. the one thing com has against him is that alot of people don’t like his image/concepts.. to alot of ignorant street cats he’s soft (pardon) and they don’t fuck with soft rappers (i said NO!!!)…

    to me tho thats just…. well… ignorant street shit.

  139. el feces loco Says:

    # landLORD Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    eskay Says:

    lol, seriously, this conversation has already been had on this site 30 times.

    cOLD and Feces know this.

    ————————–

    … God’s Son across the God’s Son …

    ^^pwahahaha

  140. Da PartyStarter Says:

    ^^ Damn, y’all making me feel like a baby lol

    ^^^^^
    I KNEW I smelled Similac and baby powder up in this piece…LOL

  141. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    i said NO!!

    ***LOL

  142. Willy Swagger Says:

    damn whoa!
    Common > Nas

    lets keep into prespective thats like the Student becoming > than the teacher. As Common has said that Nas is an influence

  143. landLORD Says:

    … Jay > NaS … as an MC …

    … NaS > JayZ … as a poet/writer …

    … now …

    … B.I.G. > Tupac … and it aint even close …

  144. cOLD Says:

    icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    … i will even go out on a limb and say overall as a complete artist:

    … Common > NaS (IMO) …

    ***I can’t even comment on that one- it’s a photo finish, IMO…

    ^^
    yeah.. close call. the one thing com has against him is that alot of people don’t like his image/concepts.. to alot of ignorant street cats he’s soft (pardon) and they don’t fuck with soft rappers (i said NO!!!)…

    to me tho thats just…. well… ignorant street shit.

    ^this is getting way outta hand now.

    …and didnt common say he was the chi town Nas! even he knows Nas is >

  145. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ***Co sign Land, except I would say…

    Jay>Nas as a RAPPER
    Nas>Jay-Z as an MC

  146. BabyDoll Says:

    landLORD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    … Jay > NaS … as an MC …

    … NaS > JayZ … as a poet/writer …

    … now …

    … B.I.G. > Tupac … and it aint even close …

    ^I slightly second that…the Hov Stan in me doesn’t want to give in to the second equation…LOL

  147. KilluminattI7 Says:

    … i will even go out on a limb and say overall as a complete artist:

    … Common > NaS (IMO) …

    … and the disparity between them as just pure mc’s isnt that great either …

    ^^^
    *objectively contemplates*

  148. RIGZ Says:

    yeah i wasn’t saying understanded = whack…

    but I was listening to Like Water for Chocolate the other day. beats are super solid on it.

    ^^^^

    I get what your saying…different strokes for different folks…

    But LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE???

    Two words:

    DILLA, DILLA, BEATS, BEATS, BEATS, BEATS….And hooks. Word to Heat & Nag Champa…

    Dilla’s the only dude I’m a straight stan of. I look at everybody else objectively…

  149. eskay Says:

    >>lets keep into prespective thats like the Student becoming > than the teacher. As Common has said that Nas is an influence

    interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

  150. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^this is getting way outta hand now.

    …and didnt common say he was the chi town Nas! even he knows Nas is >

    ***and Jay-Z was an apprentice to Jaz-O, the Originator…so whatchu sayin (c) EPMD

  151. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Dilla’s the only dude I’m a straight stan of. I look at everybody else objectively…

    ***Even Premier?

  152. G7 Says:

    >>Jay>Nas as a RAPPER
    Nas>Jay-Z as an MC

    ^that’s more accurate

  153. Digital scales Says:

    Nas>camel head

    and its not even close

    live now,2nd childhood>anything jay ever made

  154. cOLD Says:

    interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

    ^so was a lot of other mc’s who switched their flow up after ILLmatic.

  155. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Common’s “the 6th Sense”, offa “Like Water”, is an underrated classic…

  156. KilluminattI7 Says:

    Jay>Nas as a RAPPER
    Nas>Jay-Z as an MC

    ^^^
    beat me to it (i beg YOUR pardon)

  157. Words is Born Says:

    nas vs jay… pac vs big..

    i always love the arguments..

    on the real tho…

    Hurricane Chris > Chingy

  158. rex hussla Says:

    Isn’t comparing Nas & Jay musically kinda like debating Michael Irvin vs. Randy Moss? In the end there’s no bad choice is there?

  159. G7 Says:

    what’s good nahgroes? *daps all*

  160. Digital scales Says:

    jayz could never make a ”live now”

    jayz idea of a storytelling is ”meet the parents”, fuck outta here, that shit was all over the place and boring…..

  161. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    cOLD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

    ^so was a lot of other mc’s who switched their flow up after ILLmatic.

    ***yeah, but even Nas is clearly influenced by Rakim…it’s like anything else, you know? The best learn from teh best….

  162. Da PartyStarter Says:

    ^if you crossed paths with will smith would he recognize you

    ^^^^^^^

    Yup…

    Ironically, so will Jeff. I was more of a Jeff(D.J.) fan and he used to drive up and down 60th st. pumpin’ his new shit. He went from a Black Supra to Black M3 to Black M5. I saw him at a Sixers game, and I was like “We need a mix tape” . he was like I don’t see you up 6-0 no more.” I was like.”YOU don’t be up 6-0 no more.” Anywho, whenever I see him, it’s love. I haven’t seen Will in person in over 20 years.
    *you know, that sounds hella gay when you type it out.*

    Truth:

    You could run into Jazzy Jeff, ?Love (used to), Hub, Black thought (same), Bahamadia, King Brit(dj) on any given day downtown in Philly.

  163. G7 Says:

    >>interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

    ^so was a lot of other mc’s who switched their flow up after ILLmatic.

    ====
    co-sign. Comm switched up his style big time after the horrible “Can I borrow a Dollar”, his debut. You can hear the influence and difference on the Resurrection album.

  164. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Best storytellers ever, in no particular order:

    Slick Rick
    Nas
    Biggie
    Ghost/Rae
    Kool G. Rap
    3000 (don’t sleep)

  165. cOLD Says:

    yeah, but even Nas is clearly influenced by Rakim…it’s like anything else, you know? The best learn from teh best….

    ^the student can never be > teacher. You know this already Ike.

  166. Digital scales Says:

    didaps G7 whats good nahgro

  167. landLORD Says:

    … before record deals and videos, you had to rock a house party, or block party, or high school gym with just a mic and two turntables … if rap was stripped down to those bare essentials, NaS would have no where near the ability to move the crowd, as JayZ … and at its essence, thats what mc’ing is really about … 85% percent of the people would be, and are lost on NaS genius (sad but true) … JayZ is more universal and accessible … he can appeal to the “backpackers” without losing his core fanbase … NaS has only his core fan base left …

  168. Willy Swagger Says:

    eskay Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    >>lets keep into prespective thats like the Student becoming > than the teacher. As Common has said that Nas is an influence

    interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

    ^^ So was Fat Joe and that type of ish happens everyday, Look at “can I borrow a dollar” and “Resurrection” very different. And Common said “Chicago’s Nas, Now Im one of Chicago’s gods” Paraphrased but doesnt him comparing himself to Nas equate to him thinking Nas is probably greater or equal to?

  169. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    the horrible “Can I borrow a Dollar

    ***yeah, but that was back when everybody was just trying to rhyme fast, lol….

  170. G7 Says:

    Digital scales Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    jayz could never make a ‘’live now’’

    jayz idea of a storytelling is ‘’meet the parents’’, fuck outta here, that shit was all over the place and boring…..

    ====
    true. “meet the parents” is overrated.

  171. KilluminattI7 Says:

    what up Rex

    Isn’t comparing Nas & Jay musically kinda like debating Michael Irvin vs. Randy Moss? In the end there’s no bad choice is there?

    ^^^
    sorry but thats a bad comparison.. Moss vs T.O would be more appropos since they are both contemporaries adn deep threat (home run) receivers

  172. RIGZ Says:

    eskay Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    >>lets keep into prespective thats like the Student becoming > than the teacher. As Common has said that Nas is an influence

    interesting since Com was out before Gnoz

    ^^^^

    I was just thinking the same thing…

    Resurrection is LYRICALLY as good as Illmatic, if not better…They came out the same year…Nas was probably a Common fan too…

  173. green eyes Says:

    ***yeah, but even Nas is clearly influenced by Rakim…it’s like anything else, you know? The best learn from teh best….

    ^ everything is rather derivative.. we all are puling our great idea from inspiration set forth by the collective consciousness.. nothing is truly original anymore.. most ideas are just improvent on old ones.

  174. cOLD Says:

    …case and point

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXwY4AaqBHk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Gq0feRntU

    ^you guys are fucking crazy.

  175. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^the student can never be > teacher. You know this already Ike.

    ***it all depends, on what the student does with the tools the teacher instills in them (n/h), generally, the trailblazer beats out the young gun, but then again, there’s Jaz-O and Jay-Z, lol…

  176. G7 Says:

    >>Best storytellers ever, in no particular order:

    Slick Rick
    Nas
    Biggie
    Ghost/Rae
    Kool G. Rap
    3000 (don’t sleep)

    =====
    G Rap’s “Thug Love Story” is one of the most slept on ever!

  177. Willy Swagger Says:

    Bilal was all over Like Water for Chocolate (the movie is great), No 2x 6 degrees of Bilal Stanism

  178. RIGZ Says:

    Illmatic never fropped BEFORE Ressurrection…where you lot getting this info?

  179. Mark Twain Fame Says:

    back again…

    Da PartyStarter Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
    who the fuck is the “hip-hop government”?

    ^^^^
    “us” the federal nahright territories of the stolen land counsel .
    Our flag has spilt hennessy and blunt ashes on it.
    Our Nahtional antem is “Ether”
    Our national Bird is “Spoony Luv’s Mistress’’ a rare and wonderous creature.J/K, J/K, J/K
    our nahtional currency is “rapidshare files”

    El Prsidente: Eskay

    VP: DBillz

    Sec. of Defense: Greeneyes (DO NOT get on her bad side)

    Treasurer: Nation (of course)

    Dept. of Interior: Landlord

    Nahtional Photographer: CMac

    Director of Literature: Rigz

    Nahtional Archives director: DPS

    Overseer: ICON

    House Speaker: Boosie

    Minority Whip: Two-Times

    Director of Labor and Industies: BabyDoll

    This shit is like eating potato chips, lol

    ^^^
    saw this above…damn left out again…*kicks rocks*, I mea I couldn’t be the Director of White Relations or some shit…jeez. lol.

  180. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    ^ everything is rather derivative.. we all are puling our great idea from inspiration set forth by the collective consciousness.. nothing is truly original anymore.. most ideas are just improvent on old ones.

    ***nothing idea’s original, there’s nothing new under the sun/it’s now what you do, but how it’s done (c) Nas

  181. el feces loco Says:

    If you a regular cat that love ya moms and ya seed, secure enough to get married to the chick you dated for cold minute, speak from the point of a revolutionary while still keeping it funky then you might like Nas.

    If you’re a big headed(naw) cat with delusions of grandeur, seldom mention ya moms, have no seeds, cannot commit to the chick you been dating for a hot minute, because your insecure because they “used to call you ugly”, speak from the point of a d rug dealer(Dehaven or Calvin), while perpetrating a fraud then you might like Jay

    That’s all Imma say..Yo Simon you’re welcomed nigga.

    Nahright now has one hunned and 2(new) members

  182. RIGZ Says:

    *dropped

  183. cMac Says:

    Private social Remy Martin event for the unveiling of the new 1738 Cognac

    awwwwwwww shit…mac in the building

  184. Soul Clapper Says:

    Sham & The Professor > Pete Rock & CL Smooth
    Cella Dwellas > Wu-Tang Clan
    Special Ed > Rakim
    Yung Wun > KRS One
    Sen Dog > Jay-Z
    Danny Boy from House of Pain > Nas

    And that’s an actual fact…

  185. KilluminattI7 Says:

    @ rex

    and, NO you can’t go wrong with either one of them, hence the pointlessness of the entire debate

  186. landLORD Says:

    cOLD said

    the student can never be > teacher. You know this already Ike.

    —————-

    … definitely false … not true … i can think of MANY things that i am better at, than the person who taught tthem to me … im sure im not alone …

    … Joba Chamberlain’s father taught him how to throw a baseball, but he’s paralyzed from the waist down … who do you think is the better pitcher ? …

  187. Digital scales Says:

    everything is rather derivative.. we all are puling our great idea from inspiration set forth by the collective consciousness.. nothing is truly original anymore.. most ideas are just improvent on old ones.
    ^
    No ideas original, theres nothing new under the sun, no matter what you do or how its done (C) Nas

    sup Green, i think jayz flipped hiphop better, made alot more money off of it, and became a fucking true businessman, but nas is a way better MC…PERIOD

  188. G7 Says:

    Common peforms Nas tracks at his shows. I seen him do New York State of Mind and he did the World is Yours in the past.

  189. cOLD Says:

    nothing is truly original anymore..

    ^no ideas original, theres nothing new under the sun-Nas

    ———–

    “wisdom be leaking out my grapefruit troop
    I dominate break loops giving mics menstrual cycles”

    ^this was in 94,…1994

  190. el feces loco Says:

    saw this above…damn left out again…*kicks rocks*, I mea I couldn’t be the Director of White Relations or some shit…jeez. lol.

    ^^Its all good homie..i’m setting up my own govt to overthrow them..you can be my chauffeur.

  191. RIGZ Says:

    Illmatic – 1994

    Ressurrection – 1994

    Im looking at the CD cases RIGHT NOW…

    How could he have changed his style because of Illmatic?

    They came out the SAME YEAR…

    You lot are buggin with that one…

  192. G7 Says:

    accurate darts by loco @ 2:56

  193. icon (trillbert arenas) Says:

    Sham & The Professor > Pete Rock & CL Smooth
    Cella Dwellas > Wu-Tang Clan
    Special Ed > Rakim
    Yung Wun > KRS One
    Sen Dog > Jay-Z
    Danny Boy from House of Pain > Nas

    And that’s an actual fact…

    ***Nopeish, nopey, nopeful, noper, nopest

  194. Willy Swagger Says:

    Rigz get your google on and see what dates they dropped. You can be influenced in the same year

  195. RIGZ Says:

    Yep…

    **checks CD cases AGAIN**

    …you lot are BUGGIN…

  196. cOLD Says:

    … definitely false … not true … i can think of MANY things that i am better at, than the person who taught tthem to me … im sure im not alone …

    ^scientifically speaking it is impossible…

    you can never be more pure from which one came.

  197. Mark Twain Fame Says:

    ***nothing idea’s original, there’s nothing new under the sun/it’s now what you do, but how it’s done (c) Nas

    ^^^
    love that song and that line…ayyy someone hit me with a zshare link for that track.

    ################################

    ^^Its all good homie..i’m setting up my own govt to overthrow them..you can be my chauffeur.

    ^^^
    awesome…I’ll get my Transporter on. ha.

    #######################################

    and @ Soul C.

    LMAO for those comparisions homie. *daps*

  198. green eyes Says:

    landLORD Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    cOLD said

    the student can never be > teacher. You know this already Ike.

    —————-

    … definitely false … not true … i can think of MANY things that i am better at, than the person who taught tthem to me … im sure im not alone …

    ^ gotta cosign land on this… “those who cannot do…teach” by and large, a teacher shows you the ropes.. the student OFTEN surpasses the teacher

  199. G7 Says:

    cOLD Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    …case and point

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXwY4AaqBHk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Gq0feRntU

    ^you guys are fucking crazy.

    ====
    LMAO @ Common in that first video

  200. Da PartyStarter Says:

    saw this above…damn left out again…*kicks rocks*, I mea I couldn’t be the Director of White Relations or some shit…jeez. lol.
    ^^^^^^^
    Naw. It’s all love. You could run the “Preisident’s Counsel on Literacy” Program n’ shit. Just add on. lol

    *smh that the federal nahright territories of the stolen land counsel has to have “minority” interviewing/hiring standards and practices much like the NFL/MLB/NCAA* lol

  201. RIGZ Says:

    Willy Swagger Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    Rigz get your google on and see what dates they dropped. You can be influenced in the same year

    ^^^^

    But songs from both albums were out in ’93…

    I dont think he changed because of Nas. I think he changed because HIP HOP was changing…

  202. landLORD Says:

    cOLD said

    ^scientifically speaking it is impossible…

    you can never be more pure from which one came.

    —————–

    … your analogy does not run paralell to your original idea … you said teacher/ student not creator/creation …

  203. CiCi The Intern Says:

    # Da PartyStarter Says:
    January 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    ^^ Damn, y’all making me feel like a baby lol

    ^^^^^
    I KNEW I smelled Similac and baby powder up in this piece…LOL

    ^^ I knew I noticed Depends and Geritol in here too…I kid, I kid

    ————–

    A search of the bus turned up 105 grams of marijuana, 29 grams of cocaine and ecstacy believed to be in Carter’s possession, Sanchez said. Two unidentified members of Wayne’s group were also arrested on marijuana charges following the search of the bus carrying the group about 11:30 p.m.

    ^^smh…

  204. G7 Says:

    @ Rigz

    Illmatic- April 94

    Resurrection- October 94

  205. BabyDoll Says:

    Director of Labor and Industies: BabyDoll

    ^I like that …I can be in charge of day jobs that nobody hates!

  206. rex hussla Says:

    Whattup KilluminattI7

    I think the debate should be titled “What’s cooler: being a Nas stan or a Jay stan?”

    Being a Jay stan is probably better

  207. cOLD Says:

    rigz this was before 1994

    Street’s disciple my raps are trifle
    I shoot slugs from my brain just like a rifle
    Stampede the stage I leave the microphone split
    Play Mr. Tuffy while I’m on some Pretty Tone shit
    Verbal assassin my architect pleases
    When I was twelve, I went to hell for snuffin Jesus
    Nasty Nas is a rebel to America
    Police murderer, I’m causin hysteria
    My troops roll up with a strange force
    I was trapped in a cage and let out by the Main Source
    Swimmin in women like a lifeguard
    Put on a bulletproof nigga I strike hard
    Kidnap the President’s wife without a plan
    And hangin niggaz like the Ku Klux Klan
    I melt mics till the sound waves over
    Before steppin to me you’d rather step to Jehovah
    Slammin MC’s on cement
    Cause verbally, I’m iller than a AIDS patient
    I move swift and uplift
    your mind shoot the gift when I riff in rhyme
    Rappin sniper, speakin real words
    My thoughts react, like Steven Spielberg’s
    Poetry attacks, paragraphs punch hard
    My brain is insane, I’m out to lunch God
    Science is dropped, my raps are toxic
    My voicebox locks and excels like a rocket

  208. Mark Twain Fame Says:

    G7 Says:

    January 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    accurate darts by loco @ 2:56

    ^^^

    *goes to 2:56 comment posted by loco*

    *nods in agreement*

    yup, I concur.

  209. G7 Says:

    ^word, 91 right there.

  210. Soul Clapper Says:

    A lost classic from 1991 I just upped… from when he was Master and not Masta…

    Master Ace – Movin’ On (Marley Marl Remix)

    zshare.net/audio/6812449b28ecb9/

    This is the joint with the sirens and guitar loop. The album version was okay, this is heat.

    I’m saying that Marley Marl = One of the most underrated producers ever. He rarely gets mentioned on peoples GOAT producers lists.

  211. OnPoint Says:

    I see the oldies have taken over the nah dialogue (jk)

    whaddup nah….

    resurrection is top 5 hiphop album production and rapping.

    Rigz hit the Nas situation on the head. Great lyricist, but not the best artist. If he was a great artist he would have more flows than he does, or would have been able to choose better beats.

    With that said, you cant front on him mastering his few flows to the point that he can hit you over the head with ridiculously good lyrics. Nothing wrong with focusing and being accurate or onpoint. OnPoint is the shizzle.

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