Phonte Weighs in on Fiascogate

So Lupe fucked up the lyrics to the Phife verse on “Electric Relaxation” during the tribute at Hip-Hop Honors on Thursday night. Since the above clip hit Youtube, the internets have been in an uproar over the flub and the whole situation recently earned itself a coveted “gate” suffix.

If you recall, long before the HHH show, Lupe famously said that he had never even heard the Midnight Marauders album. So why is he taking part in a Tribe tribute you ask? Well apparently Q-Tip personally asked him too.

So Lupe responded to critics’ assertion that he disrespected Tribe by basically arguing that he isn’t familiar with their work and he didn’t want to do it in the first place. On the Okayplayer message boards, he talks about how he came up on gangsta music, not “backpack” rap and goes so far as to type in all caps.

That particular post has now prompted a response from Phonte of Little Brother which you can read here. Here’s an excerpt. Cap statements are Lupe’s the rest is Tigallo.

>HAVE I LISTENED TO MM IN ITS ENTIRETY?…NO!!!…(Sorry
>Quest)…

This statement is nothing but pure arrogance. I wonder how your friend Q-Tip would feel about you ‘having no interest’ in hearing what many consider to be his landmark album….especially after you forgot his lyrics during a tribute and your only defense is, “hey, shit happens……but I still ain’t listening to the album tho…”

Lupe, I fucks with you my dude, but you were wrong here. After watching the video, you really didn’t even fuck up that badly, so you should’ve just kept your mouth shut when the criticism came. But like Phonte said, now you’re coming off as arrogant and disrespectful to people like myself who hold Tribe in the highest possible regard.

At the end of the day, I’m still gonna fuck with you, but I think you should take a close look at how this whole situation played out and what went wrong and use it as a learning experience. To me, it’s unacceptable that any professional rapper could have never heard Midnight Marauders. Particularly one whose work is so Tribe-esque.

That’s like Beanie Sigel saying, “I’ve never heard a Kool G Rap Record and don’t care to.”


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60 Responses to “Phonte Weighs in on Fiascogate”

  1. THE-XFACTA Says:

    uno

  2. It'smesnitches Says:

    Here we go

  3. THE-XFACTA Says:

    “To me, it’s unacceptable that any professional rapper could have never heard Midnight Marauders”

    —————-

    Co F’ing Siggiddity

  4. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    KingSien!

  5. eskay Says:

    Gillie da kid > Willie the kid

  6. SukedowN Says:

    Pa-honte, u mad Q didn’t ask you to cover it?

  7. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    ….ROOM 2Cents….
    …whats the stance on women over 27 who wear sneakers more then heals? what about baggy sweats??

  8. Enigmatik Says:

    co-signature

  9. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:46 am
    Gillie da kid > Willie the kid

    ^^^
    Philly Murder rate @ like 320 for the year.
    Gillie da kid by defalt.

  10. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Q-Tip vs. Lupe???

    HMMMMM

  11. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    THE-XFACTA Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:48 am
    Q-Tip vs. Lupe???

    HMMMMM

    ^^^
    those 2 sound more like lovers, AYYYO!

  12. cmac Says:

    I used to like mondays….

  13. green eyes Says:

    smh.. and this kid wonders why no one cops HIS shit

  14. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    cmac Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:51 am
    I used to like mondays….

    ^^^
    Nerd.

  15. It'smesnitches Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:46 am
    Gillie da kid > Willie the kid

    ^
    Hell no…..wanna be lil wayne looking ass nigga

  16. cmac Says:

    whats the stance on women over 27 who wear sneakers more then heals? what about baggy sweats??
    ——-
    either she’s gay, a tomboy, or
    you don’t need to mess with those little girls.

  17. Babydoll Says:

    Good Morning Nah Right! *Hugs and daps for all*

    After watching the video, you really didn’t even fuck up that badly, so you should’ve just kept your mouth shut when the criticism came.

    ^co-sign…you could barely tell that he even messed up. Sounds like somebody was just in the back ground lurking…waiting for him to slip up..hmmmm

  18. THE-XFACTA Says:

    Q-Tip has 2 classic albums
    Lupe has 2 skateboards

    Lupe Lost!

  19. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    cmac Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:53 am
    whats the stance on women over 27 who wear sneakers more then heals? what about baggy sweats??
    ——-
    either she’s gay, a tomboy, or
    you don’t need to mess with those little girls.

    ^^^
    Like’em YOUNG fresh and Green! wit’no hair inbetween, know’what’i’mean….(c: NO-TO-RI-O-US, u just, lay down, slow)

  20. THE-XFACTA Says:

    New SAT Question:

    Phife is to ATCQ as:

    1. Sole is the Ginuine
    2. Ray J is to Brandy
    3. Vinny is to Treach

    Note:
    Picking no answer is better then picking the wrong answer
    Getting your name right gives you 400 pts
    Don’t look at your homies paper, he’s a dumbass

  21. Soul Clapper Says:

    Fuck it. Lupe lost.

    Midnight Marauders = Bonafied CLASSIC

  22. It'smesnitches Says:

    THE-XFACTA Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:55 am
    Q-Tip has 2 classic albums
    Lupe has 2 skateboards

    Lupe Lost!

    ^
    He’s a loser

  23. Phuque Says:

    This is some bullshit…

    So now in order to rap, niggas need to have listened to certain albums? The fuck?? I’m not saying Lupe isn’t arrogant, because he’s somewhat in the wrong for how he handled it after the fact. But that nigga kept it real when he said he didn’t wanna do it in the first place because he didn’t grow up on them.

    That nigga Phonte (a.k.a. Mr. “The Industry Owes Me Something Because I Can Rap Good And I Still Listen To Tribe Like It’s 1993”) needs to fall back too. Aren’t those two supposedly “friends” anyway? smh…

  24. cmac Says:

    @ crazy

    I was at this 18 and older, bowling alley called “300” last night and the DJ mixed nothin but B.I.G. for a good 30 minutes.

    I love that place, its like a lounge/club/bar/ bowling alley

  25. wes Says:

    amen

  26. THE-XFACTA Says:

    cmac Says:

    I was at this 18 and older, bowling alley called “300″ last night and the DJ mixed nothin but B.I.G. for a good 30 minutes.

    I love that place, its like a lounge/club/bar/ bowling alley

    ———

    Bowling Alleys are dangerous places (c) A.I.

  27. Babydoll Says:

    snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:55 am
    cmac Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:53 am
    whats the stance on women over 27 who wear sneakers more then heals? what about baggy sweats??
    ——-
    either she’s gay, a tomboy, or
    you don’t need to mess with those little girls.

    ^Or she just has no sense of style. I know a few females like that…that are just “sneaker chicks”…

  28. I Fux Says:

    *YELLS* Goooooodd Morning Viennnnnnnnnammmmmmm

    *runs around high fiving with the jump*

    Yo So this little Lupe Fiasco thing is getting blown up but Phonte should fallback and play his position. Anybody seen that youtube clip of Eskay or do I need a late pass

  29. Soul Clapper Says:

    On the real, an emcee shouldn’t have to know every classic album that ever came out. BUT…. as Hip Hop is a culture and not just a genre of music, knowing the history should be important.

    Unless dude would rather skateboard than understand the history of the 4 disciplines of Hip Hop.

  30. Mark Twain Fame Says:

    That’s like Beanie Sigel saying, “I’ve never heard a Kool G Rap Record and don’t care to.”

    ^^^

    co-sign., still coppin the cool though…he didnt mess up that bad, but his b.s. statements is where he really fucked up for real.

  31. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    cmac Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 11:01 am
    @ crazy

    I was at this 18 and older, bowling alley

    ^^^
    cHUUUURCH! Nothin better than a fresh pair of 18 yearold Kibbies.

  32. I Fux Says:

    Ya I know girls who are into sneakers but they were high heels when necessary, she probably needs to get her shoe wear game up

  33. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    lol I’d of figured Lupe was a fan of backpack rap and Pusha T was the fan of gangsta rap but I got it backwards.

  34. Phuque Says:

    *reads Phonte’s post*

    smh…

  35. E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    …1…

  36. snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    Babydoll Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am
    snort_snortCrazy88since88 Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:55 am
    cmac Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 10:53 am
    whats the stance on women over 27 who wear sneakers more then heals? what about baggy sweats??
    ——-
    either she’s gay, a tomboy, or
    you don’t need to mess with those little girls.

    ^Or she just has no sense of style. I know a few females like that…that are just “sneaker chicks”…

    ^^^
    Co-Sign w/ B.G. (no NoliaKlap)

    (muffled voice)
    …let me delete this hos number…

  37. green eyes Says:

    Soul Clapper Says:
    October 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am

    On the real, an emcee shouldn’t have to know every classic album that ever came out.

    ^^ agreed. fully. HOWEVER, if youve been asked to perform their song at a tribute to them, dont be an asshole– take a few hours on a plane or while your skateboarding and familiarize yourself with it. thats where the arrogance comes in.

  38. Mark Twain Fame Says:

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 11:09 am
    lol I’d of figured Lupe was a fan of backpack rap and Pusha T was the fan of gangsta rap but I got it backwards.

    ^^^^

    for real though. shit is funny.

  39. MadeInMilwaukee....Since1979 Says:

    Phonte and everyone else is full of shit!! I aint the biggest Tribe fan either, nor could I recite ANYTHING off that album verbatim. Lupe gave an honest answer and people are catching feelings. Ive done plenty of favors for people on the strength that I didnt want to do.

  40. MadeInMilwaukee....Since1979 Says:

    green eyes Says:

    October 8th, 2007 at 11:10 am
    Soul Clapper Says:
    October 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am

    On the real, an emcee shouldn’t have to know every classic album that ever came out.

    ^^ agreed. fully. HOWEVER, if youve been asked to perform their song at a tribute to them, dont be an asshole– take a few hours on a plane or while your skateboarding and familiarize yourself with it. thats where the arrogance comes in.

    ^ He had to have listened to it some to even memorize what he did. Its like people dont like the truth. If he wasnt a fan and didnt listen to them so be it. That aint arrogance, thats honesty!!!

  41. Phuque Says:

    >>To me, it’s unacceptable that any professional rapper could have never heard Midnight Marauders. Particularly one whose work is so Tribe-esque.

    ^^

    LOL…somebody warn Soulja Boy

  42. Jimmy Valentime Says:

    Lupe in real life is one of the most egotistical people I ever meet. He more full of himself then jay or puff or any Gangster rapper I ever been around,.

    Lupe openly squirms at the persona he created, …He should try and be himself more on records and interviews.

    If ytou are not a back packer or a underground head at heart…dont pretend to be one ….

    It like if a new york rapper was asked to do a twista song… you take three hours and you at least learn the bounce and flow so you can do it on stage naturally. .

  43. Da PartyStarter Says:

    MM is a classic. It’s one of two albums I give to folks who are trying to be introduced to Hip-Hop music. The other is “The Sun Rises In The East”/Jeru da Damaja. You can excuse Lupe because his Hip Hop experience is different than alot of East Coast catz. Plus, how old was Lupe when MM came out in 93/94? He shoulda just kept his mouth shut. (NO Star Jones’ Husband)

  44. gigi Says:

    tell em eskay!
    Srsly when he said he never heard of that album i was like wtf?!!
    im 27 shit i was in the park on the swings at 11 yrs old reciting scenario..fuck outta here with that shit..i like lupe too but yeah he shoulda kept his trap shut

  45. P o v a Says:

    He listen to gangsta rap? Not Back pack? He is a backpack rapper.

  46. B.Payton Says:

    I never heard a tribe called quest album. I tried to listen but I just don’t be feelin it.

  47. Boosie Says:

    I dont see the point of what some of ya’ll niggas and crakkers is saying. If he fucked up the words then he just fucked up the words. People are making a big deal of this for no reason.

    You dont have to listen to certain rap albums just to rap. Some people take this hip hop shit too seriously, and people are beginning to take this blog shit wayy too seriously too. Remember its just the internet. This is not fam or family, its the internet.

  48. The Truth... Says:

    I knew this kid was useless….

  49. Mr.Londoner Says:

    tOTALLY Blown out of proportion..

    still copping the album though..

  50. smog Says:

    blown out of proportion is right, wtf how is dude not about to listen to mm though, he is just missing out

  51. HHF Says:

    why ninjs always gotta front like that?…..just do whats right and keep it moving. Oh well.

  52. $***M-ROC***$ Says:

    Soul Clapper Says:
    October 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am

    On the real, an emcee shouldn’t have to know every classic album that ever came out.

    ^^ agreed. fully. HOWEVER, if youve been asked to perform their song at a tribute to them, dont be an asshole– take a few hours on a plane or while your skateboarding and familiarize yourself with it. thats where the arrogance comes in.

    ^^^

    CO-SIGN. how hard is it to memorize one fucking verse? 13 year olds do it every day.

  53. Game Over Says:

    Son acts like he can’t memorize ONE VERSE. That’s pure laziness. Even if he never heard that song in his life, how long does it take to memorize ONE verse? Not even the whole song…SMH. He should apologize for that alone, on some ‘Damn, I should’ve actually rehearsed’.

  54. metrotech Says:

    Fuck Lupe.

  55. nation Says:

    >> to people like myself who hold Tribe in the highest possible regard.

    this is the first time you’ve ever mentioned Tribe

    >> That’s like Beanie Sigel saying, “I’ve never heard a Kool G Rap Record and don’t care to.”

    or like eskay’s aggressive comment never listening to a N.W.A. record

  56. Logic Speaks Says:

    Lupe makes dope music but every time he opens his mouth outside the booth he says some stupid shit (see: “People are bootlegging my shit?!?! Fuck this I’m done rapping!”) and Phonte just makes his music that much more enjoyable when he speaks on some shit because I have yet to see him wrong.

    Shit’s still blown out of proportion, ironically, BY Lupe.

  57. How You Gonna Say I Ain’t No ‘Lo Head « weapons of mass distraction Says:

    […] I could give a fuck about Lupe messing up A Tribe Called Quest lyrics. Stop focusing on the negative you media whores. Even I have never heard Midnight Marauders in it’s entirety (eskay… I need that Tribe list), although I will spit on anyone who denies A Tribe Called Quest, period.  But seriously, it’s just a few words. And at least he’s being honest about it. Some people will get on camera and talk about people who influenced them or who they grew up listening to but they have no fucking clue what the fuck they’re talking about. And anyone who says Biggie or Tupac influenced them is a damn liar. When you hear Big rap you feel like damn, no one is ever gonna rap like that again… not really the same case for Pac, but I digress. Just in case you do give a shit about what happened at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors show, you’re best bet is to read Nah Right’s run down of the events or to peep the iNTERNETS CELEBRITIES manifest voyeurism at it’s finest. The rest is just filler. […]

  58. Lupe Is Still Getting Shat On « weapons of mass distraction Says:

    […] Between this, this and this… Lu stays losing. Even this and this is not a pretty sight. I feel bad, I didn’t think it was that big of a deal. […]

  59. chucky Says:

    Lupe sonned him, son! On the son tip! Q-Tip should get out his burner and…ah, you guys finish it for me. Thanks.

  60. Steve Says:

    Who Gives A Fuck? He Fucked Up 2 Bars.

    Nas Forgot More Than That When He Performed Dear Mama In ’04, No-One Complained Then.

    What Is It With Backpack Cats, They Think Unless U Know Every Fucking Album Of That Genre, Ur Not A Hip Hop Fan.

    I Ain’t Even A Lupe Fan, But Give Him A Break. He Forgot The Lyrics To A Song By A Group Who Was Last Out When He (Lupe) Was 16, And The Song In Question Was Released When He Was 11.

    Y’all Backpack Niggas Need To Realize Ur Not God’s, Just Emcees

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