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Daily Headlines 10-16-06

Jay talks about Kingdom Come, Black Thought is mad at Jay and Nas disses the Mixshow Summit.

A Night Out With Nas and Kelis, And 500 of Their Closest Friends  

Check out Dave Mays’ inaugural editorial for HHW which hits newstands today. (thanks Joe) 

Get up close and personal with Diddy in January.  

Hip Hop’s official photographer D-Nice documents Hip Hop Honors

I kid the Little Homey alot, but how dare these clowns come out their face and question a legend. Ya’ll know who he’s talking to, don’t act brand new now.

The Game and BWS vs the UK’s Slash TV 

Remy fetches cheesecake at Junior’s in Times Square.  

Youtube bans “Y’All Should All Get Lynched” video.  

A Jim Jones reality show? That’s what I’m talking about.


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312 Responses to “Daily Headlines 10-16-06”

  1. dubble13 Says:

    First!

  2. dubble13 Says:

    I hate this first stuff…

  3. dubble13 Says:

    Doesn’t the new Jay-Z vid drop today? Or am I mistaken?

  4. eskay Says:

    >>Doesn’t the new Jay-Z vid drop today? Or am I mistaken?

    yessir.

  5. dubble13 Says:

    then where is the link…says the Hova fans who are impatiently waiting…
    Get back on ya grizzle, Mr Eskay!

  6. G7 Says:

    settle for sixth

  7. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>A Jim Jones reality show? That’s what I’m talking about.

    This better not be just a rumor. BALLLLLIN!

  8. yab_o_y Says:

    is that j nicks doin all that yappin about nas and atl??

    that dude is fuckin retarted.

    ps. the real question is when does sai’s video drop?

  9. Jay Willz Says:

    nine

  10. G7 Says:

    A jim jones reality show…lol. This guy will go to any lengths to look stupid.

  11. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    The A’s not hip hop, and neither is the south, i didn’t say it…according to the video Nas is saying it, even though he never actually said it. Haha.

  12. GentleTip.com Says:

    Jim Jones reality show????????
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  13. iceberg slim Says:

    I wonder if jay will do another small tour like house of blues size again

  14. GentleTip.com Says:

    Whatever happened to little homie’s reality show??

  15. Darth Cipher Says:

    its like the whole meaning behind the phrase “hip hop is dead” went right over there fucking heads!!!

    cause alot of them south cats be saying the same old shit in every song, yet they put, jeezy in the same place as TI and Outkast… niggaz is losing they minds these days… so fucking sad to see what these people were saying

    “when were in the club with bitches around, we wonna hear D4L…”
    fuck outta here with that bullshit i’d rather hear dipset over them punk D4L niggas any day of the week… *say it Capo* “BALLIN’!!!”

  16. yab_o_y Says:

    WOW.. anyone watch that ‘you should all be lynched’ shit video?????

    click that link.. that video is pretty crazy..

  17. Two-Times Says:

    what up

  18. Jamz Says:

    Jim Jones doing reality tv will probably work? He’s a clown…

  19. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    so that Jay-Z Video is playin on the hour every hour on BET. And that “Y’all Should All Get Lynched” song is a big ass contradictory.

  20. green eyes Says:

    sooo… in that Hip Hop is dead You tube– indvidual in green.. was taht a man or a woman?

    Nas & Kelis in NY Times Style section– upgrade or wtf?

    Jim Jones reality TV star has the makings of a great way to kill a few brain cells for 30 minutes. Id watch a few eps.

    ANd I get what Jay is tryin to say to MTV, but is he really comparing himself to a security guard at the mall?? Maybe ots been awhile since he’s been at a mall, but methinks he should rethink that comparison its almost too easy to clown.

  21. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Jim Jones adlibs>Jeezys adlibs

  22. Two-Times Says:

    Jimmy reality show… He is defintely outdoing his boss Cam’ron..

    Maybe he shouldn’t be a Capo no more.

  23. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    If Hip Hop is Dead to Nas why is he putting out another cd?

  24. Plug Industries Says:

    I kid the Little Homey alot, but how dare these clowns come out their face and question a legend. Ya’ll know who he’s talking to, don’t act brand new now.
    —————
    I feel the little niggas. If hip hop was dead Run DMC killed it when they sold out and did a collabo wit aerosmith.

    Mornin sukkas

  25. Plug Industries Says:

    yo

  26. green eyes Says:

    Skeeter Valentine Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 11:17 am
    If Hip Hop is Dead to Nas why is he putting out another cd?

    ^^ things that make you go hmmmmm……

    maybe someone shold ask him about that instead of why did you sign to def jam again. just a thought

  27. Darth Cipher Says:

    that lynched video is so oxymoronic its sickening
    how you gunna say niggas should get lynched for doing stupid shit against niggas
    that doesnt make much sense… that nigga should get his ass busted up for the giant pile of stupidity. if you’re going to make a point, make it with some common sense

  28. eskay Says:

    from the NYT article on Nas and Kelis:

    “His bodyguards — larger even than Usher’s — tried in vain to restore order amid the revelry.”

    ^ Nas lost

  29. eskay Says:

    >>I feel the little niggas. If hip hop was dead Run DMC killed it when they sold out and did a collabo wit aerosmith.

    fuck you talking about, that was one of the best songs/collabs ever.

    *bumps Aerosmith’s greatest hits*

  30. Plug Industries Says:

    I kid the Little Homey alot, but how dare these clowns come out their face and question a legend. Ya’ll know who he’s talking to, don’t act brand new now.
    —————
    I feel the little niggas. If hip hop was dead Run DMC killed it when they sold out and did a collabo wit aerosmith.

    Mornin sukkas

    *gives eskay the gas face*

  31. Two-Times Says:

    “His bodyguards — larger even than Usher’s — tried in vain to restore order amid the revelry.”

    ^ That article was crapping.. And so was the party.. They probably had more bodyguards than rappers…

  32. Plug Industries Says:

    *searches for KRS ONE lyric when he subliminally hoed Run dmc*

  33. Two-Times Says:

    Eskay,

    Did you ever get to see that Back to School Jam concert footage, that one site was overhyping or whatever.

    I went to the site but they don’t even have a link for it..

  34. green eyes Says:

    Dave Mays is still a joke. That HHW is a joke. Mays & ray lost.

  35. green eyes Says:

    Oh, and i dont really want to get up close & personal with puff. not in january, not ever.

  36. Plug Industries Says:

    test

  37. G7 Says:

    props to Black Thought for speaking out towards DefJam. Things must be pretty bad if the Roots aren’t happy. They do so well just off of touring alone. Who ever is really in charge of that label needs to step it up!!

  38. Jay Willz Says:

    @Plug..

    “don’t wear addidas cause my name ain’t Run…” – Dope Beat

  39. eskay Says:

    yeah I was surprised to hear Black Thought riffing. I mean they went over there with the expectation of not really moving alot of units, but they did do them dirty on the promotion tip.

  40. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    “don’t wear addidas cause my name ain’t Run…” – Dope Beat
    ——-
    I forgot about that one. it was another one when he was takin about “sukkas walkin this way”

  41. Two-Times Says:

    XXL article about G-unit compared with the Yankees:

    50 Cent = George Steinbrenner
    Lloyd Banks = A-Rod
    Young Buck = Derek Jeter
    The Game = Alphonso Soriano
    Tony Yayo = Bernie Williams
    Lil Scrappy = Johnny Damon
    Hot Rod = Jared Wright
    Mobb Deep = Randy Johnson
    M.O.P. = Melky Cabrera & Andy Phillips

    haha the article is funny but kinda of true in some ways.

    xxlmag.com/online/?p=5385

  42. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Some mc’s be talkin’ and talkin’
    Tryin’ to show how black people are walkin
    But I don’t WALK THIS WAY to portray
    Or reinforce stereotypes of today- BDP My Philosopy

  43. Jay Willz Says:

    @two times

    Does this mean G Unit’s going to lose very publicly this year? Will yayo crash a plane into the side of Rikers?

  44. Jay Willz Says:

    like all my brothers eatin chicken and watermelon..

    Good one. I never even thought of that as a subliminal. I guess it’s because he stayed in so many straight up battles.

  45. Two-Times Says:

    @Jay Willz

    Does this mean G Unit’s going to lose very publicly this year?

    ^^ Yep that’s what the article implies.. I think it’s already happen pretty much… Mobb Depp flopped and Banks did 150,000 first week (compared to (400,000 last album).

    You can’t say the empire has collasped but they ain’t really winning the world series anymore.

  46. Jay Willz Says:

    It would be great if Nas could be Magglio Ordonez and hit the walk off to close out the year.

  47. Paperstacker Says:

    Obviously the Hip Hop is dead statement goes over alot of peoples heads. That statment could mean a range of things. First off it basically sums up the quality of rap lyrics these days and the lack of lyricists in the game, it could also point to the fact Hip-Hop has been pimped out and is just another way for the whiteman in high places to get money off of niggas now.

    Hip Hop use to be a culture back then, now its just based on money, commercialism and the rest. Now anyone can be a rapper, theres no talent involved and everybody rapping bout the same shit, niggas shooting the same videos with muthafuckas wearing bape shit, tons of ice, throwing fake paper around, and standing next to cars they aint got in they garage. (see young Joc “I know” video, and at Joes “make it rain”)

    Theres millions of other things that the Hip Hop is Dead statement could mean…but fuck these niggas cause hip hop is really dead and the shit coming out can compare to what was out back then, even in 96-2000 shit was way better than this. Most the south has always been garbage, theres alot of club bangers coming out from the south, and a few lyricists. But the rest of them are just garbage.

  48. Joffe Jo Says:

    I’m in the south and those cats on the radio show are ignorant as fuck. It goes to show these niggas didn’t learn to read between the lines in school.

  49. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Obviously the Hip Hop is dead statement goes over alot of peoples heads. That statment could mean a range of things. First off it basically sums up the quality of rap lyrics these days and the lack of lyricists in the game, it could also point to the fact Hip-Hop has been pimped out and is just another way for the whiteman in high places to get money off of niggas now.

    Hip Hop use to be a culture back then, now its just based on money, commercialism and the rest. Now anyone can be a rapper, theres no talent involved and everybody rapping bout the same shit, niggas shooting the same videos with muthafuckas wearing bape shit, tons of ice, throwing fake paper around, and standing next to cars they aint got in they garage. (see young Joc “I know” video, and at Joes “make it rain”)

    Theres millions of other things that the Hip Hop is Dead statement could mean…but fuck these niggas cause hip hop is really dead and the shit coming out can compare to what was out back then, even in 96-2000 shit was way better than this. Most the south has always been garbage, theres alot of club bangers coming out from the south, and a few lyricists. But the rest of them are just garbage.
    *******************************

    So Nas is putting out another album because??

  50. yab_o_y Says:

    co sign paperstacker.

    also, bol’s posts are mighty hilarious today…

  51. yab_o_y Says:

    So Nas is putting out another album because??

    ^
    because he obviously wants to you herb.

    and i, along with a bunch of other people will listen to it.

  52. Joffe Jo Says:

    skeeter valentine go skeet skeet in your valentine with that dumb ass remark.

  53. Paperstacker Says:

    So Nas is putting out another album because??

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Ask Jay the same thing, cause they both want to change hip hop, and put some shit out worth listening than this candy bubble gum bullshit that happens to be coming out the south these days.

    More people anticipatign both they albums than everyone else…

    Put it together.

  54. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    skeeter valentine go skeet skeet in your valentine with that dumb ass remark.

    *****

    kill yourself.

  55. Two-Times Says:

    So Nas is putting out another album because??

    ^^

    Plain & simple… He needs income.

  56. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Most the south has always been garbage, theres alot of club bangers coming out from the south, and a few lyricists. But the rest of them are just garbage.
    ———–
    thats just like the east. niggas kill me like everything that came out in the east was classic. The east is doin everything the south is doing. they talked about women and club joints, ie 2 life crew then niggas hated and jocked. they started talkin about material things, then the east did it. Yall said the same thing about the west but yall started cussin real quick didnt yall. paperstacker, why you hatin? its plenty of good music still around, it just aint on the radio

  57. eskay Says:

    >>put some shit out worth listening than this candy bubble gum bullshit

    EPMD let off mad shots aimed at bubblegum niggas at the show on Saturday too.

  58. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    >>put some shit out worth listening than this candy bubble gum bullshit
    ——-
    Its only like 5 bubblegum rappers out. That shit is for the kids. let em have that mess.

  59. eskay Says:

    smh @ anybody insinuatiing the East puts out as much bullshit as the South.

    For every Chicken Noodle Soup, there are 20 fucking Southern coon tunes.

  60. G7 Says:

    Man, I knew it was bad news for hiphop the second Cash Money and No Limit started dropping. Lyricism just started going down the drain. The south does have a few good lyricists though. I’m not hatin’ that much…lol.

  61. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    smh @ anybody insinuatiing the East puts out as much bullshit as the South.

    For every Chicken Noodle Soup, there are 20 fucking Southern coon tunes.
    ——————-
    Thats still the pot callin the kettle black. Thats like a crackhead sayin whittney houston is more of a crackhead when both of them smoke.

  62. green eyes Says:

    Ask Jay the same thing, cause they both want to change hip hop,

    ^^ you really think Jay is trying to change Hip Hop? get outta here– he’s just feeding his ego, which is all good but he’s not making a new album with any lofty purposes of changing the game as much as he’s just trying to reassert his place in it

  63. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Man, I knew it was bad news for hiphop the second Cash Money and No Limit started dropping. Lyricism just started going down the drain. The south does have a few good lyricists though. I’m not hatin’ that much…lol.
    ———–
    50% of the rappers on no limit were from the east. And didnt Gillie say he was writin for cash money? where he from again?

  64. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Ain’t nobody tryin to change hip hop. Most new niggas out just wanna get heard. All the ppl that have been in for awhile are just tryin to make some money off the same thing they have been doin for years.

  65. Paperstacker Says:

    Dont get me wrong, b, but the south fucking fell off. SO what is this, the south is getting its time to shine now shit??? You southeners should be ashamed of how far yall niggas music fell off just like NY.

    Remember Ludas first album??? Outkasts first album and they other classics? Scarface back then, when Cash Money was running shit back then with the “bling bling”, ‘G-code”, “#1 stunna” I use to play they shit 24/7. Juveniles older albums. No limit ran the rap game for a lil min too.

    I always listened to the south and they had alot of influence in the game, but they fucking fell off b.. Wheres cash money, No limit, Luda, scarface, etc? the south is run by snapping candy paint mutafuckas now and shit doesnt look good.

  66. landLORD Says:

    … NY artists know when they are cooning and dumbing down, and they do it consciously in an effort to increase sales … southern artists have no idea that they are cooning and actually take pride in their buffoonery, and are usually clueless as to why people aremad in the first place …

  67. landLORD Says:

    … NY artists know when they are cooning and dumbing down, and they do it consciously in an effort to increase sales … southern artists have no idea that they are cooning and actually take pride in their buffoonery, and are usually clueless as to why people are mad in the first place …

  68. green eyes Says:

    Wheres cash money, No limit, Luda, scarface, etc?

    ^^
    where’s bad boy, def jam, etc?
    def jam keeps east cpast rappers on the shelf and releases southern rap so talk to you NY boys on that one.

  69. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    … NY artists know when they are cooning and dumbing down, and they do it consciously in an effort to increase sales … southern artists have no idea that they are cooning and actually take pride in their buffoonery, and are usually clueless as to why people are mad in the first place …
    ——–
    southern artist are being there selves. ny artist are tryin to be like the southern artist they redicule

  70. green eyes Says:

    landLORD Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:22 pm
    … NY artists know when they are cooning and dumbing down, and they do it consciously in an effort to increase sales … southern artists have no idea that they are cooning and actually take pride in their buffoonery, and are usually clueless as to why people aremad in the first place …

    ^^^ not really why cooning on purpose is the better thing.

  71. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    … NY artists know when they are cooning and dumbing down, and they do it consciously in an effort to increase sales … southern artists have no idea that they are cooning and actually take pride in their buffoonery, and are usually clueless as to why people are mad in the first place …

    **************

    Which is worse, knowing you are cooning and doin it on purpose or just being ignorant to the fact that your are cooning?

  72. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    “i dont wanna hear about ‘my mindstate blah blah blah'” that quote about sums it up

  73. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    WAIT A SECOND!?!?!?!? who says there coonin? because they are dancin an havin fun?!!?!? WTF!!!!

  74. landLORD Says:

    … cooning is cooning… intentional or unitentional… but alas, intentional cooning would have to be the greater crime … NY lost …

  75. Paperstacker Says:

    where’s bad boy, def jam, etc?
    def jam keeps east cpast rappers on the shelf and releases southern rap so talk to you NY boys on that one.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Exactly… the whole fucking rap game fell off on both coasts. hence Nas’s title “Hip hop is Dead”…

    Sadly some dumb niggas like the ones on youtube will never understand that shit though.

  76. green eyes Says:

    landLORD Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
    … cooning is cooning… intentional or unitentional… but alas, intentional cooning would have to be the greater crime … NY lost …

    ^^ yeah– didnt jay say something about dumbing his shit down on purpose. how are you the greatest rapper alive and you admit to releasing bullshit? thats not something to brag about

  77. Jay Willz Says:

    hip hop is the new 9-5. it’s just pm to am instead. People doin a bunch of things they couldn’t really give a fuck about, to get a check.. It’s factory work and 9 out of 10 makin the same shit. The worst part is they drag us into it by makin it look like fun

  78. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Hip Hop is dead
    ——
    soooo, Common aint hip hop? Kanye West, Slum village?

  79. Shanti Says:

    sooo… in that Hip Hop is dead You tube– indvidual in green.. was taht a man or a woman?

    ^^LOL. Jay Knicks looks like a lesbian. Man they’re just ignorant as hell. Especially Jay Knicks. Lame ass dude. He thinks he’s a lot more important than he actually is. He’s a radio personality and he acts like he’s making hip hop music or something. Oh, I forgot, that nigga did have a lil song out that he could hardly get played on the radio station he works for.

  80. Shanti Says:

    landLORD Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
    … cooning is cooning… intentional or unitentional… but alas, intentional cooning would have to be the greater crime … NY lost …

    ^^true.

  81. eskay Says:

    Ok, seriously what fucking NY niggas do you see cooning like fucking D4L and Yung Joc? the only niggas I see that even use Southern beats are Dipset and G-Unit. You know damn well you ain’t gonna catch D BLock, Jay, Nas, Ghostface, Rae or none of the official niggas doing no fucking bullshit, so please stop the nonsense.

  82. landLORD Says:

    … hip hop is NOT dead… it’s just not on the radio… and it “will not be televised” …

  83. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    hip hop died when
    1. harlem world dropped
    2. i saw my first no limit ad in the source
    3. diddy did “i’ll be missing you”
    4. ja rule started getting radio play
    5. nas dropped nastradamus

  84. Shanti Says:

    eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    Ok, seriously what fucking NY niggas do you see cooning like fucking D4L and Yung Joc? the only niggas I see that even use Southern beats are Dipset and G-Unit.

    ^^don’t forget about Fat Joe. The I’ll Make it Rain song or whatever its called was straight down south biting. That nigga even stole Rick Ross flow for the song. Of all the people out there, why would he wanna bite Rick Ross? SMH.

  85. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    # eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    Ok, seriously what fucking NY niggas do you see cooning like fucking D4L and Yung Joc? the only niggas I see that even use Southern beats are Dipset and G-Unit. You know damn well you ain’t gonna catch D BLock, Jay, Nas, Ghostface, Rae or none of the official niggas doing no fucking bullshit, so please stop the nonsense.

    ^^^ plus dipset and g-unit have only very few southern beats, most of their beats is sha money, alchemist, heatmakerz, etc.

  86. Blaqout Says:

    This shit is crazy….the south Is salty right now at nas…..SONGS THAT ONLY CONSISTSS OF 3 OR 4 WORDS THE WHOLE SONG IS NO HIP HOP….Im mr. Chico stick ….hahahahahahahah how the fuck r the arguin thas hip-hop…..club music yeh…but shit justin timberlake can make a club song…doest mean its hip-hop….I got love for the south….but just be happy yall in the spotlight cuz I dont see D4L or dem Franchise Boys holdin a lyrical battle with anyone

  87. landLORD Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
    Ok, seriously what fucking NY niggas do you see cooning like fucking D4L and Yung Joc? the only niggas I see that even use Southern beats are Dipset and G-Unit.
    —————————

    …but Dipset and GUnit are the faces of NY hiphop right now … and personally, DBlock and even WuTang’s glorification of the drug trade is coonery also, regardless of the eloquence with which they depict it …

  88. eskay Says:

    >>don’t forget about Fat Joe. The I’ll Make it Rain song or whatever its called was straight down south biting.

    ok, true I’ll give you Fat Joe, he definitely played himself, but niggas called him on it. I still don’t see how Joe doing that video with Weezy = New York is cooning.

  89. eskay Says:

    >>DBlock and even WuTang’s glorification of the drug trade is coonery also, regardless of the eloquence with which they depict it …

    stop it please.

  90. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Nas has been on a southern beat for an official release even though it was for that Bravehearts shit…

  91. green eyes Says:

    you dont have to use a southern beat to be cooning.

  92. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    DBlock and even WuTang’s glorification of the drug trade is coonery also, regardless of the eloquence with which they depict it …
    ^^ are scorcese and de palma italo-goons for depicting their people as gangsters, murderers, etc.?

  93. landLORD Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
    >>DBlock and even WuTang’s glorification of the drug trade is coonery also, regardless of the eloquence with which they depict it …

    stop it please.

    —————

    … why ? …

  94. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Want it last year that Bun B had one of the hotest albums of the year? Was he considered coonin?

  95. Two-Times Says:

    @spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son

    are scorcese and de palma italo-goons for depicting their people as gangsters, murderers, etc.?

    ^^ They are depicting other people in real true stories as gangsters..
    DBlock and even WuTang are depicting themselves as the biggest pushers known to man kind.

  96. eskay Says:

    >>… why ? …

    just cuz you talk about street shit you’re cooning? come on b. see spotrusherz comment above.

  97. Shanti Says:

    # eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:36 pm

    >>don’t forget about Fat Joe. The I’ll Make it Rain song or whatever its called was straight down south biting.

    ok, true I’ll give you Fat Joe, he definitely played himself, but niggas called him on it. I still don’t see how Joe doing that video with Weezy = New York is cooning.

    ^^don’t get me wrong. i wasn’t arguing that fat joe was cooning because he was on a southern beat. i agree with green eyes in that being on a southern beat does equal cooning. i was just arguing that dipset and g-unit aren’t the only ones biting the south.

  98. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Never said Nas was cooning. He’s just one of a few east coast niggas that have used a southern beat.

  99. eskay Says:

    >>Want it last year that Bun B had one of the hotest albums of the year? Was he considered coonin?

    I wouldn’t consider him a coon, no.

  100. landLORD Says:

    ^^ are scorcese and de palma italo-goons for depicting their people as gangsters, murderers, etc.?
    ————-

    … yes they are …. the whole entertainment industry is mired in coonery, slapstick and buffonery, consciously reinforcing negative images and stereotypes across the board and by no means is it just hiphop… let’s not be naive… not to say i dont enjoy a laugh or two at the expense of my own beliefs, im human too… but it is what it is …

  101. Shanti Says:

    i agree with green eyes in that being on a southern beat does equal cooning.

    ^^edit: does not equal cooning.

  102. Two-Times Says:

    Styles P of D-Block used a Lil Jon beat… Did y’all forget that?

    But that song really did jam!!!

  103. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Jada, Busta, and Cam on that one remix with BoneCrusher

  104. Paperstacker Says:

    The south died when:

    Cash money broke up

    No limit ended

    Andre from Outkast started singing

    Juvenile dropped Project English

    Scarface retired

  105. landLORD Says:

    … no Eskay, im not singling out hiphop… just commenting on the deterioration of moral values in the entertainment industry as a whole … negativity has always sold well, but now its becoming a requirement to even be a player in the game …

  106. eskay Says:

    I never said using a Southern beat = cooning. alot of Southern beats knock. what I was saying was Dipset and G-Unit are the only NY artists who do it consistently, but yet niggasstay trying to say NY be cooning.

  107. GET Says:

    Bravehearts ft Nas & Lil Jon

    Jada & Paris hilton (Even Worse)

  108. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay, im not singling out hiphop… just commenting on the deterioration of moral values in the entertainment industry as a whole …

    white people can’t coon.

  109. Paperstacker Says:

    Aint bout the southern beats, The south always had hot beats, in exception to all the snapping bullshit.

    That “Quick to Back down” with Nas was fire, beat was nice too.

  110. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Styles P of D-Block used a Lil Jon beat… Did y’all forget that?

    But that song really did jam!!!
    —-
    sure did. And the song him and jada had on lil jons cd was a hot joint

  111. Shanti Says:

    # eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:44 pm

    >>Eskay, im not singling out hiphop… just commenting on the deterioration of moral values in the entertainment industry as a whole …

    white people can’t coon.

    ^^^shiiiiiiiiitttttt

  112. landLORD Says:

    >>>>white people can’t coon.

    —————————-

    …. no but they are facillitators and financiers OF coonery …

  113. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    white ppl coon in there own lil way…

  114. Two-Times Says:

    Why is New York mad… They have the biggest sellers: 50, Jay … only other big seller is in Detriot (he needs to drop an album soon too.)

  115. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    new york coonin at its best

    youtube.com/watch?v=MYRUQ24XoyE

  116. eskay Says:

    >>shiiiiiiiiitttttt

    it’s true. I mean technically they can, but who cares? what they eat don’t make me shit.

  117. eskay Says:

    >>Why is New York mad… They have the biggest sellers: 50, Jay

    who said New York is mad? the South are the ones that are mad…niggas stay crying: “ya’ll don’t give us our credit” “it took us mad years to get in the game” oh boo fucking hoo.

  118. green eyes Says:

    50 = biggest dumb grinnin’ shuckin & jivin coon ever

  119. Two-Times Says:

    new york coonin at its best

    youtube.com/watch?v=MYRUQ24XoyE

    ^^^

    Good call!!!! But I can’t blame that on Big, cause you know that wasn’t ever his style…. Puffy and Mase take responbility on that.

    Did Jada and them boys dress up like that too.

  120. Son_Of_Ether Says:

    *looks in on the NR fam*

    *notices the heated hip hop is dead debate goin on*

    *says some shit your drunk uncle would say*

    hip hop aint dead…hip hop is in the witness protection program for snitchin on pop music

    *goes unheard*

    *walks over to the TV to peep Jets highlites.*

  121. eskay Says:

    >>new york coonin at its best

    at least the song was good. and please, you call that cooning? at least niggas ain’t frying chicken in the woods.

  122. 456 Says:

    white cooning= ‘white and nerdy’ by weird al

  123. Shanti Says:

    eskay you act like NY don’t complain about the south. when kay slay, ghostface and etc. talk shit you post it and you don’t seem to have a problem with what they say. let pimp c and whoever else say some shit and all of a sudden it’s the south is crying blah blah blah. niggas complainin on both sides and niggas make valid points on both sides.

  124. T Nelson Says:

    Anybody peep that Scarface game yet?

  125. landLORD Says:

    green eyes Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
    50 = biggest dumb grinnin’ shuckin & jivin coon ever
    ———————-

    …thank you…co sign…

  126. green eyes Says:

    at least the song was good. and please, you call that cooning? at least niggas ain’t frying chicken in the woods.

    ^^ i think we can all agree that ms. peaches shit is dispacable, but you cant use that as your evidentiary point in how southern hip hop is cooning.
    that’s just some ignorant mofo using rap music to bullshit– its like fucking kidz bop

  127. Two-Times Says:

    Dem franchise boys and D4l and pretty much anything Jermaine Dupri puts out is garbage for real…. I can’t front, they suck.

    I’d rather listen to Dipset or G-Unit instrumental!!

  128. Shanti Says:

    # eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:52 pm

    >>new york coonin at its best

    at least the song was good. and please, you call that cooning? at least niggas ain’t frying chicken in the woods.

    ^^fry that chicken is not even a real song…

  129. Paperstacker Says:

    yeah, I was wondering how that BIG video was cooning, come on now. Cause them niggas had shiny suits? yall reaching

  130. Two-Times Says:

    T Nelson Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
    Anybody peep that Scarface game yet?

    ^^ nah but I wanted to …

  131. Paperstacker Says:

    The truth is D4L is POP, they shouldnt even be considered rap. Period

  132. green eyes Says:

    456 Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
    white cooning= ‘white and nerdy’ by weird al

    ^^ thats a parody, not white cooning

  133. GET Says:

    Also Jay-z need to stop cooning in his new video with Dale earnhardt Jr and Danica patrick, whats the point of having them in the video other then pleasing white people???

  134. Caliber Says:

    ..SP comin out w/ a Gangsta Grillz mixtape..said he need more down south support

  135. Paperstacker Says:

    Anybody peep that Scarface game yet?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Saw some pics, looks wack, basically look like another GTA. Might be good though.

  136. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Pimp C has no room to talk, he is….the weak half of UGK.

  137. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    the South are the ones that are mad…niggas stay crying: “ya’ll don’t give us our credit
    ——
    Id be mad too if people dismiss my shit as hip hop just because Im from another part of the states. When my ish drop, If they start talkin my shit aint hip hop, I’m spittin in peoples faces

  138. Two-Times Says:

    Also Jay-z need to stop cooning in his new video with Dale earnhardt Jr and Danica patrick, whats the point of having them in the video other then pleasing white people???

    ^^
    Earnhardt Jr is G and Danica would catch it for sure.

  139. Shanti Says:

    # D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i’m as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    Pimp C has no room to talk, he is….the weak half of UGK.

    ^^that’s not the point. that nigga can comment on some shit. all of us are in here commentin and what albums have we sold.

  140. Paperstacker Says:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    CO-SIGN

    Seriously, ever since i first listened to UGK, Pimp C was always wack as hell. Bun B is like 10 levels above that nigga.

  141. eskay Says:

    >>50 = biggest dumb grinnin’ shuckin & jivin coon ever

    oh really? bigger than Cash Money in their heyday? bigger than D4L? bigger than Yung Joc? bigger than Lil Jon? come on man, stop it. I hate 50 but ya’ll reaching.

  142. green eyes Says:

    ^^that’s not the point. that nigga can comment on some shit. all of us are in here commentin and what albums have we sold.

    ^^ whatchutalkin bout? in my own mind, I’ve gone quadruple cellophane

  143. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Pimp C = Cry baby who is worse then 2006 NORE. haha.

  144. Paperstacker Says:

    POP=DFL, DIDDY, Franchise Boys,

  145. landLORD Says:

    *NewYork area artists guilty of coonery*

    … Fiddy…
    …Diddy…
    …Camron…
    …ODB…
    …MethodMan…
    …JimJones…
    …Yayo…
    …mobb deep…
    …Hova…
    …Uncle Murder…

    …to be continued…

  146. 456 Says:

    green eyes Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
    456 Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
    white cooning= ‘white and nerdy’ by weird al

    ^^ thats a parody, not white cooning

    ^^ i was joking but think about it: he is performing and exploiting stereotypes about white people. he is clowning himself at the expense of his white and nerdy bredthren. isn’t that the definition of coonin?

  147. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Cause them niggas had shiny suits? yall reaching

    *****
    Would you wear a shiny suit with GOGGLES on top of your head and dance around??

  148. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>POP=DFL, DIDDY, Franchise Boys,

    ^^

    Very true.

  149. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    Seriously, ever since i first listened to UGK, Pimp C was always wack as hell. Bun B is like 10 levels above that nigga.
    ——
    pimp c > bun b

    until he got locked up

  150. T Nelson Says:

    Im getting the feeling i might be dissappointed by Jay-z new joint…..I mean if is attitude on the Black Album was “What More Can I Say” what the hell is he going to say on this one……plus he cant out do “Allure”

  151. Two-Times Says:

    Eskay says:

    I hate 50 but ya’ll reaching.

    ^

    Why the hate??

  152. eskay Says:

    ain’t nothing coon about Jay’s video, and I ain’t even seen it yet.

    Shanti, you’re right niggas in NY do cry, but the difference is I agree with them. My job is too call the southern niggas on their bullshit, let a Southern blogger talk about Ghost and Meth and them niggas.

  153. Paperstacker Says:

    Pimp C is just so garbage, I wonder if Bun B be looking at the nigga when he laying his verse like “damn this nigga is wack”.

  154. GET Says:

    >>> Earnhardt Jr is G and Danica would catch it for sure.

    Yeah they cool and Danica is cute, but whats the point of having them in the video??? most black/hispanic people dont give a fuck about them, its to just please to the white people….Jay is cooning.

  155. T Nelson Says:

    Ohhh a heated north vs south debate…….glad im in the middle

  156. GET Says:

    its just to please white people…Jay is cooning.

  157. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Mase is pop too though..

    “The fuck is Mase? Only bitches roll with pepper spray”

  158. eskay Says:

    >>its just to please white people…Jay is cooning.

    you reaching.

  159. Paperstacker Says:

    pimp c > bun b

    ^^^^^^^^

    whoaa…u know dont nobody belive that

    Look at the verse Bun B spit on Big Pimping and compare it to Pimp C’s verse

  160. Caliber Says:

    landLORD Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:00 pm

    …Uncle Murder…
    ____________________________________________________________

    STREET LIFE HOMIE..THATS ALL I KNOW ABOUT

    SO DON’T CRITICIZE ME LIKE “THAT’S ALL HE FLOW ABOUT”

  161. green eyes Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 12:59 pm
    >>50 = biggest dumb grinnin’ shuckin & jivin coon ever

    oh really? bigger than Cash Money in their heyday? bigger than D4L? bigger than Yung Joc? bigger than Lil Jon? come on man, stop it. I hate 50 but ya’ll reaching.

    ^^ hell no.. The man has built his career on being a coon.

  162. eskay Says:

    Landlord, Uncle Murder is cooning? I’m out ya’ll niggas is just saying anything now.

  163. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>Pimp C is just so garbage, I wonder if Bun B be looking at the nigga when he laying his verse like “damn this nigga is wack”.

    I agree. I mean yeah he compliments Buns style. But he shoulda atleast did what Treach did…find someone that actually has skill..

  164. eskay Says:

    >>hell no.. The man has built his career on being a coon.

    there was no coonery on GRODT.

  165. G7 Says:

    >>white ppl coon in there own lil way…

    ^ Seeing Eminem rocking a doo rag always bugs me. Could that be a form of a white person cooning?? If it’s not white cooning, its just dumb anyway.

  166. GET Says:

    >>>> you reaching.

    So you tell me for what audience did Jay put these to White heroes in his video for.

  167. green eyes Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
    >>hell no.. The man has built his career on being a coon.

    there was no coonery on GRODT.

    ^^ GTFOH! His whole persona is one watermelon seed away from being a fucking minstel show

  168. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    If Uncle Murder is a coon…then every southern rapper who raps about murder and violence is a coon too….and there is alot of them that do it also. Thats what always gets me, they always talk about how East coast rappers talk about drugs and violence, but don’t alot of southern rappers do it too? Just saying…

  169. Caliber Says:

    eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:04 pm

    Landlord, Uncle Murder is cooning? I’m out ya’ll niggas is just saying anything now.
    ____________________________________________________________

    ..nahmean eskay? preview caliber’s post at 1:04

  170. Two-Times Says:

    >>hell no.. The man has built his career on being a coon.

    there was no coonery on GRODT.

    ^^^

    Good call…. That was a classic

  171. 456 Says:

    yall don’t even know what cooning is.

  172. Paperstacker Says:

    Lil Scrappy> Pimp C

    Scrappy come out with alotta hits though, his lyrics on point too

  173. eskay Says:

    >>So you tell me for what audience did Jay put these to White heroes in his video for.

    If you’re gonna do a video where you’re racing somebody, why wouldn’t you want Dale Earnhardt? that nigga is on a whole nother level that you obviosuly don’t understand. alot of you niggas obviously don’t know what cooning is if you think it means being next to a white person. get your mind out the gutter.

  174. Paperstacker Says:

    GRODT=Classic

    Cosign with Two Times

  175. Shanti Says:

    # 456 Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:08 pm

    yall don’t even know what cooning is.

    ^^seriously. this is becoming kinda like a slippery slope type of argument.

  176. eskay Says:

    Caliber, you heard that new Uncle Murder with the chick on the hook? shits hot.

  177. Caliber Says:

    DJ LUST PRESENTS HALLOWEEN HAVOC

    tinyurl.com/ydfmdw

  178. landLORD Says:

    coonery = Antics and behavior displayed by certain underclass individuals in the Black culture, the end result being the embarrassment of the rest of the upstanding Black community.

    …uncle murda = coonery…

  179. Shanti Says:

    jay z is not coonin for putting earnhardt in his video but nascar is such a racist red neck sport that it does seem weird that he would put dude in the video.

  180. landLORD Says:

    …Jay racing with Earnhardt is NOT coonery…
    …Jay co-signing and appearing on a track with Jeezy and RickRoss IS coonery…

  181. Two-Times Says:

    What about Benzino… Does he qualify being from Boston?..

  182. eskay Says:

    >>coonery = Antics and behavior displayed by certain underclass individuals in the Black culture, the end result being the embarrassment of the rest of the upstanding Black community.

    yeah but you forgot to add “for the enjoyment of the white man”

    and Uncle Murder is certainly not making music for the white man.

  183. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>DJ LUST PRESENTS HALLOWEEN HAVOC

    Who’s on that?

  184. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    landLORD Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
    coonery = Antics and behavior displayed by certain underclass individuals in the Black culture, the end result being the embarrassment of the rest of the upstanding Black community.

    …uncle murda = coonery…

    ^ Co-sign!!! Ain’t No way on earth this dude is that hard. That goes for ANYBody who kills 50 people in 4 mins or sell 100 kilos in 4 mins. That cooning and conning.

  185. Caliber Says:

    eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:10 pm

    Caliber, you heard that new Uncle Murder with the chick on the hook? shits hot.
    _____________________________________________________________

    ..nah es, put me on…

  186. landLORD Says:

    …if street shit is all you know about, and all you can express yourself about, maybe you should just shut up …. its been said a million times already…. show some growth

  187. green eyes Says:

    landLORD Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
    …if street shit is all you know about, and all you can express yourself about, maybe you should just shut up …. its been said a million times already…. show some growth

    ^^ or read a fucking book

  188. T Nelson Says:

    I got luv for Jay but he said it himself……he has a new bytch coporate america…so he had to leave leave summer behind….when in Rome gotta do what the Romans do I guess…..He may finally be conforming

  189. GET Says:

    >>> If you’re gonna do a video where you’re racing somebody

    he could of done any kinda of concept for the video but he chose to do something to get his White fan base happy.

    You Still didnt answer…..what audience did Jay put these two White heroes in his video for cause sure wasnt for the hood.

  190. G7 Says:

    >>jay z is not coonin for putting earnhardt in his video but nascar is such a racist red neck sport that it does seem weird that he would put dude in the video.

    Jay should have gotten Michael Shumacher(sp?) to race him. He’s the don of race car driving right now. Jay in a formula 1 car would be tight!!

  191. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    wow any of you d block heads ever heard this shit? youtube.com/watch?v=35r_khlk_wA
    that’s almost new post worthy, but i dont know how new it is

  192. landLORD Says:

    … Eskay, you are sadly mistaken if you think coonery is just for the benefit of the white man… it also serves to reinforce negative self-images in blacks and give us a sense of hopelessness in regards to real-life goals and opportunities… which in turn DOES benefit the white man…

  193. Caliber Says:

    1. Halloween Havoc Intro 2. Show Me What You Got – Jay-Z 3. Kingdome Come – Jay -Z 4. We Fly High Rmx. – Jim Jones, T.I. , Diddy, Young Dro 5. We Fly High Reggaeton Rmx. – Jim Jones , Tego , Don Omar 6. Alarm – Jim Jones (xclusive freestyle) 7. Show Me – Jadakiss Ft. Dalia 8. Live By The Gun – Sheek Louch 9. S dot P dot Ghost – Styles P 10. Punishment – Ransom 11. Fireman – Stack Bundles Ft. Walkamil 12. Ching Ching – Max B 13. Hot Boyz – Max B ,Stack Bundles, Mel Matrix, Jim Jones , Tatu-u 14. Discipline – Llyod Banks, Tony Yayo 15. 4 Kings – Young Jeezy ,T.I. ,Young Buck, Pimp C 16. Pop Heaters – Mazarati Fox Ft. 50 cent 17. You Don’t Know – 50 cent Ft. Eminem,Llyod Banks, Cashis 18. Holla Back – Gillie Da Kid 19. Our World – Omillio Sparks Ft. Freeway 20. Just Do It – Remo Da Rapstar 21. What Police Can Do – Styles P ft. J Hood 22. 914- D-Block
    23. Money,Guns,Drugs rmx. – Geolani Ft. J Hood ,Milli, Littles 24. 80’s Shit – Ransom 25. Head Honcho – J.R. Writer 26. Blow – Max B ,Stack Bundles,Jim Jones ,Mel Matrix 27. Remy Time – Remy Ma 22. Peedi Peedi – Bring The Pain 29. What Makes A Man – Mike Lowery Ft. J.R. Writer,Hell Rell 30. The Hustle – Billz

  194. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    You Still didnt answer…..what audience did Jay put these two White heroes in his video for cause sure wasnt for the hood.

    ****

    good question….

  195. eskay Says:

    >>You Still didnt answer…..what audience did Jay put these two White heroes in his video for cause sure wasnt for the hood.

    Jay don’t make music just for the hood anymnore, why you acting like you don’t know that?

  196. Two-Times Says:

    What about this dance Dipset was doing back in the day, in this video…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSDYv3Upj90

    That dance at the end was kinda of whack, similar to D4L and Franchise…

    I’m glad Dipset changed it up since then….

  197. Two-Times Says:

    It was the “Hey Ma” video

  198. G7 Says:

    DJ Premier and Whitney Houston collabo???

    tinyurl.com/ydb3w4

  199. Caliber Says:

    spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:18 pm

    wow any of you d block heads ever heard this shit? youtube.com/watch?v=35r_khlk_wA
    that’s almost new post worthy, but i dont know how new it is
    _____________________________________________________________

    ..nah spot thats off tha new come up so thats been up a while..tha song been out for a min. too…off tha vinny idol king of beats mixtape..

  200. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    “Niggas tryna kill me thats why I’m strapped nigga!
    I’ll shoot ur mothafuckin heart through ur back nigga!!”

    I don’t care, Uncle Murders music goes goes hard though.

    Some of the songs on that Halloween Havoc mixtape look new to me.

  201. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay, you are sadly mistaken if you think coonery is just for the benefit of the white man… i

    all i know is that Uncle Murder is street music. its not meant for bubble gum niggas and it certainly ain’t meant for the suburbs. he is by far the most ignorant street nigga to drop in the last 5 years, and I’d slap one of my kids if I caught them bumping his shit, but I don’t consider it coonery. If Uncle Murder is cooning then so is M.O.P. right?

    “I’m bringing NY back and can’t stand the South” – Uncle Murder

  202. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    just saw this ransom video on youtube, let me find that out that dude is black? im so disappointed

  203. p1 Says:

    jiggy might not be guilty of the kinda coonery that cam or jeezy are on, but are you really gonna argue that a grown ass man admitting that he dumbs down his lyrics so he doesn’t lose touch with his fans is posative in the community?

    the dirty has the ignant shit on lock, for sure, but NYC keeps it stupid ass too, don’t front.

    busta?
    cam?
    the rest of dip set?
    those gunit geeks?
    what about that fat motherfucker gravy?

  204. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    how is uncle murder bringin newyork back and he’s tryin to be spice one?

  205. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Ransom = Pain And Glory and his Best In The City mixtapes are bangers.

  206. Two-Times Says:

    Dipset doing a dance (like they swagger-jacked D4L) is coonery or what?

  207. spotrusherz aka light up the broccoli son Says:

    ..nah spot thats off tha new come up so thats been up a while..tha song been out for a min. too…off tha vinny idol king of beats mixtape.

    ^^ i can always count on you for that d block knowledge, fam… i just checked, it actually is on that mixtape and i have it, guess i didnt pay attention when i bumped it

  208. Caliber Says:

    eskay Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:23 pm

    “I’m bringing NY back and can’t stand the South” – Uncle Murder
    ____________________________________________________________

    LMAO..one of my favorite bars from Uncle Murder…on top of that he spit that off a down south beat…

    ..es throw an assist w/ that new joint u talkin bout

  209. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:23 pm
    >>Eskay, you are sadly mistaken if you think coonery is just for the benefit of the white man… i

    all i know is that Uncle Murder is street music. its not meant for bubble gum niggas and it certainly ain’t meant for the suburbs. he is by far the most ignorant street nigga to drop in the last 5 years, and I’d slap one of my kids if I caught them bumping his shit, but I don’t consider it coonery. If Uncle Murder is cooning then so is M.O.P. right?

    “I’m bringing NY back and can’t stand the South” – Uncle Murder

    ^ Dude shit is cooning and uncreative. He ain’t bring shit new to the table, so he just as bad as a Ying Yand twin.

  210. green eyes Says:

    I dont think cats like Busta, Meth, ODB, Luda or Redman are cooning. There has to be allowance for some type of fun

  211. landLORD Says:

    >>>>he is by far the most ignorant street nigga to drop in the last 5 years, and I’d slap one of my kids if I caught them bumping his shit, but I don’t consider it coonery.

    ————————

    … you may be applying the meaning of coonery in a more specific manner, and i may be applying the term more loosely, but the fact that you are embarrassed to have your seeds hear it, speaks volumes…

  212. Shanti Says:

    uncle murder needs to really show he lives what he raps about and kill himself.

    i’m out.

  213. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
    how is uncle murder bringin newyork back and he’s tryin to be spice one?

    ^ I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Tell uncle murder he about 14 years too late.

  214. GET Says:

    >> Jay don’t make music just for the hood anymnore, why you acting like you don’t know that?

    You still didnt answer the question but you are implying that he’s doing music for white people now, right? Which seems to get many other artist alot of hate but you seem to be giving Jay a pass??

  215. Caliber Says:

    D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i’m as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:22 pm

    Some of the songs on that Halloween Havoc mixtape look new to me.
    ____________________________________________________________

    ..some of em yeah..some been out for a min..its a good compilation tho, good mixtape for tha stash and im glad they put ransom’s 80s shit on there…that joint is serious

  216. eskay Says:

    >>Dude shit is cooning and uncreative. He ain’t bring shit new to the table, so he just as bad as a Ying Yand twin.

    you getting emotional cuz he dissed the south. don’t take it pesonally dog, you from Milwaukee. real talk, you can’t listen to that joint where he’s talking to all the niggas he murked and tell me he ain’t creative. Ying Yang? come on don’t play yourself. even if Murder is cooning, I’d rather listen to some hard street coonery then some bubblegum half gay looking niggas whispering on a wack ass beat.

  217. p1 Says:

    >I dont think cats like Busta, Meth, ODB, Luda or Redman are cooning. There has to be allowance for some type of fun

    that meth and red rite gaurd ad was fucked up, though

    not lil john fucked up, but shit was suspect

  218. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    green eyes Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:27 pm
    I dont think cats like Busta, Meth, ODB, Luda or Redman are cooning. There has to be allowance for some type of fun

    ^ But some of these artist choose to be in charcter all the time and not separate themselves from there art.

  219. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    I dont think cats like Busta, Meth, ODB, Luda or Redman are cooning. There has to be allowance for some type of fun
    ***********

    ODB was doin alot more than havin fun….

  220. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Tell uncle murder he about 14 years too late.
    —–
    cosign. niggas ignored that comment though

  221. landLORD Says:

    .>>>I’d rather listen to some hard street coonery then some bubblegum half gay looking niggas whispering on a wack ass beat.

    ———————————-

    … cosign … despite my prior self-righteous rantings, I too enyjoy the occasional coonery if packaged properly (no homo)… lol …

  222. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>uncle murder needs to really show he lives what he raps about and kill himself.

    Not really, then that would mean that every rapper who talks about violent lyrics would have to prove they actually live it. From rappers like T.I., Lil Wayne, Lloyd Banks, Jeezy, Papoose, etc. Theres alot of rappers from every part of the U.S. who talk the about massive gangster shit in their lyrics whether it’s Brotha Lynch Hung, Psyco Drama, 50 Cent, D-Block, Dipset, or any other rapper who does it too.

  223. eskay Says:

    >>You still didnt answer the question but you are implying that he’s doing music for white people now, right? Which seems to get many other artist alot of hate but you seem to be giving Jay a pass??

    I’m implying that the nigga is worldwide and he don’t make music just for the hood. all black people do not live in the hood. all white people are not rich and live in the suburbs. of course Jay gets a pass cuz when he makes music like that it still has quality unlike 50 who makes blatant pop music for girls.

  224. Two-Times Says:

    Capo, Santana, & Freaky Zeke make up the new D4L after watching the end of that “Hey Ma” video.

  225. T Nelson Says:

    If you want cooning just look at the Ying Yang Twins

  226. GET Says:

    Yeap like someone above pointed out.

    I dumb down for my audience And double my dollars – Jay

    Aint that what the south and many artist get hate for, dumbing down their music in effort to get more money.

    Man…Jay been cooning for along time everyone.

  227. landLORD Says:

    >>>ODB was doin alot more than havin fun….

    ———————————

    …word…apparantly dude was killing himself… but he had fun right ?…smh…

  228. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:29 pm
    >>Dude shit is cooning and uncreative. He ain’t bring shit new to the table, so he just as bad as a Ying Yand twin.

    you getting emotional cuz he dissed the south. don’t take it pesonally dog, you from Milwaukee. real talk, you can’t listen to that joint where he’s talking to all the niggas he murked and tell me he ain’t creative. Ying Yang? come on don’t play yourself. even if Murder is cooning, I’d rather listen to some hard street coonery then some bubblegum half gay looking niggas whispering on a wack ass beat.

    Have you every been here be for? So you have NO idea how fucked up shit is around here. That shit aint creative at all. Period. Point Blank. You can be hard and flip it into something creative or at least make it sound new. All he doing is look for attention and hoping some young kid acually believe what he is saying.

  229. Two-Times Says:

    Not really, then that would mean that every rapper who talks about violent lyrics would have to prove they actually live it.

    ^^ True dat.

  230. eskay Says:

    >>Aint that what the south and many artist get hate for, dumbing down their music in effort to get more money.

    like niggas already said, the South ain’t dumbing down, thats them being themselves.

  231. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>Capo, Santana, & Freaky Zeke make up the new D4L after watching the end of that “Hey Ma” video.

    Not really, that just would mean that D4L was biting the Dips style. Since Hey Ma came out in what 2002 or 2003?

  232. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    I’d rather listen to some hard street coonery then some bubblegum half gay looking niggas whispering on a wack ass beat.
    ——-
    lol @ eskay callin ying yang twins gay for wisperin in hoes ears and uncle murda not st8 for not talkin about hoes. Canigula ass nugga

  233. GET Says:

    >>> when he makes music like that it still has quality.

    dumbing down your music aint quality.

    “It just felt fun,” the rapper told MTV News of the Just Blaze-helmed track. “I didn’t want to put too much on it. I didn’t want to go super heavy [or] complex with the lyrics. It’s almost like this male/female banter. Show me what you got, purdy lady. That was needed. It’s basically a fun record.”

    ^Jay admitting he dumbed down his lyrics again.

  234. Two-Times Says:

    @D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i’m as ill as a convict who kills for phone time

    Not really, that just would mean that D4L was biting the Dips style. Since Hey Ma came out in what 2002 or 2003?

    ^^ Yeah your right. I think you got to call out the Dips for that shit IF your going to call out everbody else.

  235. eskay Says:

    >>Have you every been here be for? So you have NO idea how fucked up shit is around here. That shit aint creative at all. Period. Point Blank. You can be hard and flip it into something creative or at least make it sound new. All he doing is look for attention and hoping some young kid acually believe what he is saying.

    what does me being going there have to do with Murder’s creativity? I don’t doubt that shit is fucked up there, shit is fucked up everywhere. did you ever hear the song I’m talking about? if not then how you gonna tell me it ain’t creative? I know creativity when I hear it dog, I’m not an idiot. he ain’t the first nigga to be on that ultra violent shit and he won’t be the last. don’t be mad cuz that nigga ain’t catering to what niggas think is hot in the rest of the country.

  236. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    >>uncle murda not st8 for not talkin about hoes.

    You never heard more then one Uncle Murder song have you? Check his Greenlantern joint, he’s got 2 or so songs about women.

  237. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    I’d rather listen to some hard street coonery then some bubblegum half gay looking niggas whispering on a wack ass beat.
    ——-
    EDIT: lol @ eskay callin ying yang twins gay for wisperin in hoes ears and uncle murda st8 for not talkin about hoes. Canigula ass nugga

  238. T Nelson Says:

    Who cares about all that bullshyt as long as the music sounds good and not to cartooonish

  239. MadeInMilwaukee...Since 79' Says:

    eskay Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 1:38 pm
    >>Have you every been here be for? So you have NO idea how fucked up shit is around here. That shit aint creative at all. Period. Point Blank. You can be hard and flip it into something creative or at least make it sound new. All he doing is look for attention and hoping some young kid acually believe what he is saying.

    what does me being going there have to do with Murder’s creativity? I don’t doubt that shit is fucked up there, shit is fucked up everywhere. did you ever hear the song I’m talking about? if not then how you gonna tell me it ain’t creative? I know creativity when I hear it dog, I’m not an idiot. he ain’t the first nigga to be on that ultra violent shit and he won’t be the last. don’t be mad cuz that nigga ain’t catering to what niggas think is hot in the rest of the country.

    ^ Whatever nigga (c) Riley on the Boondocks

  240. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    >>Aint that what the south and many artist get hate for, dumbing down their music in effort to get more money.

    like niggas already said, the South ain’t dumbing down, thats them being themselves.

    ***********

    We’re going in circles here…

  241. eskay Says:

    >>lol @ eskay callin ying yang twins gay for wisperin in hoes ears and uncle murda not st8 for not talkin about hoes. Canigula ass nugga

    obviously none of ya’ll niggas have ever heard Uncle Murder spit cuz ya’ll making shit up now. so please don’t talk to me about the nigga if you’ve never even heard his shit.

  242. eskay Says:

    >>Whatever nigga (c) Riley on the Boondocks

    thats what I thought.

  243. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    know creativity when I hear it dog,
    —–
    obviously you dont or we all wouldnt be havin this conversation

  244. T Nelson Says:

    “Jail nigga you gay”

    Riley is classic

  245. eskay Says:

    >>obviously you dont or we all wouldnt be havin this conversation

    nigga you ain’t never hear Murder spit, stop fronting…you too busy knocking Lil Jon.

  246. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    obviously none of ya’ll niggas have ever heard Uncle Murder spit cuz ya’ll making shit up now. so please don’t talk to me about the nigga if you’ve never even heard his shit.
    ——-
    I’ve heard uncle murda and he is talkin all this new york shit wit west and south manurisms

  247. iceberg slim Says:

    in the new king magaizne
    game says dr. dre not being on my album is like dr. dre turning his back on compton

    get a grip

  248. eskay Says:

    >>dumbing down your music aint quality

    you act like all Jay’s albums sicne he said that haven’t been quality.

    “Ya’ll take the single and single that out to be the meaning of what I’m about” (c) Hovie

  249. T Nelson Says:

    The whole Game and Dr Dre situation does seem a little fishy……Game sold like 3 mil and Dre all but drops him……When you ever known Dre to turn down garunteed money

  250. eskay Says:

    >>I’ve heard uncle murda and he is talkin all this new york shit wit west and south manurisms

    ok, this conversation is over.

  251. Foekist Says:

    Eskay, you still got my home IP baller blocked… Did you get my email dunn dunn

  252. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    nigga you ain’t never hear Murder spit, stop fronting…you too busy knocking Lil Jon.
    ——–
    lil jon beats > 90% of east coast beats

  253. Two-Times Says:

    Eskay,

    You got to admit that the Dips dancin like D4L (maybe it’s Dips 4 Life) in that video is pretty bad.

  254. eskay Says:

    >>Eskay, you still got my home IP baller blocked… Did you get my email dunn dunn

    yeah, but there’s nothing I can do for you. actually I’m gonna contact the homey who wrote BB and see if he can help me.

  255. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    eskay, How come every artist you cosign for is a clone of another artist?

  256. eskay Says:

    >>You got to admit that the Dips dancin like D4L (maybe it’s Dips 4 Life) in that video is pretty bad.

    at the begining of this argument I conceded that Dipset and G-Unit were the only NY niggas catering to the South. and yes, it is bad but still:

    Dipset > at least 60% of the South

  257. Foekist Says:

    actually I’m gonna contact the homey who wrote BB and see if he can help me.

    *reads twice*

    Oh, I thought you were feelin real assholish today and were referring to the writer of the movie “Baller Blocked”, then I realized yo were talkin bott Bad Behavior. All good.

  258. eskay Says:

    >>eskay, How come every artist you cosign for is a clone of another artist?

    I’m not talking to you until you get a clue.

  259. Caliber Says:

    Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 1:37 pm

    lol @ eskay callin ying yang twins gay for wisperin in hoes ears and uncle murda not st8 for not talkin about hoes. Canigula ass nugga
    ____________________________________________________________

    ..go listen to tha 2 HARD 4 HIP HOP green latern joint like D.N. suggested…then you’ll see how murder caters to tha females…

    “she wanna go to tha movies i’m like listen i dont do that usually…but i got tha bootleg movies..we can smoke we can drink..u know i like to do me”

  260. Foekist Says:

    And please stop all this talk about creativity. I ain’t never heard that nigga Uncle Murder, but yall act like outside of a few niggas like Lupe (yeah I said it) ain’t NOBODY really being creative no more.

  261. Two-Times Says:

    at the begining of this argument I conceded that Dipset and G-Unit were the only NY niggas catering to the South. and yes, it is bad

    ^^ word. I’m out

  262. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Dipset > at least 60% of the South

    ***

    I dunno bout that one…

  263. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    I’m not talking to you until you get a clue.
    —–
    papoose= big L

    Joe buddens = Jay

    Uncle murda= Spice one and brotha lynch hung

  264. iceberg slim Says:

    smh…..east vs south black vs white
    ********grabs mp3 puts on we are the world and michael jackson “black or white”..choppes and screwed*******

  265. Foekist Says:

    edit: but outside of a few niggas like Lupe

  266. eskay Says:

    >>I dunno bout that one…

    I do.

    We Fly High > any song from the South out right now. say no.

  267. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    >>I dunno bout that one…

    I do.

    We Fly High > any song from the South out right now. say no.

    *****

    I wanna say no so bad…

  268. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    EDIT We Fly High = any song from the South out right now

  269. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    ANYBODY WHO SAYS THIS NIGGA IS NICE JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WIT ME.

    youtube.com/watch?v=tIwuDWMMrnQ

  270. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    I would fall back on T.I. but that’s a bitch move. I don’t know if u heard this…

    Caprice Music > We Fly High

  271. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Caprice Music > We Fly High

    Actually nevermind. I aint never even really listened to that song. I just like the beat.

  272. Foekist Says:

    LF: I’ve officially banned FOL (aka Coonfest ’06) from being played on my TV. The person watchin it last nite in my crib would’ve gotten put out if I didn’t need to use her car till mines get fixed. The next person is gettin pistol whipped

  273. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Rubberband Banks > We Fly High

  274. iceberg slim Says:

    smh

  275. landLORD Says:

    … anybody’s choice as the worst song on “Diplomatic Immunity I” > “We Fly High”…

  276. eskay Says:

    any Uncle Murder verse > any Lil Jon beat ever

  277. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    New york ain never been on some blast a ni99a in the face before. thats so west coast.

  278. landLORD Says:

    … Jon B > Lil Jon…

  279. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    LiL Jon > LiL Jon

    Nigga don’t write his own horrible ass rhymes…

  280. Foekist Says:

    LiL Jon > LiL Jon

    $$$$$

    Don’t EVER disrespect Lil Jon. That man is a cultural icon. Who else could make the same beat over and over again and use it on multiple platinum singles with basically every relevant name in hiphop/r and b? He don’t hate on nobody. He can’t rap, he knows it, and he doesn’t even try to. He’s the realest nigga in hip hop in my opinion. He ain’t changed his style up like everybody else, he’s just doin HIM.

  281. p1 Says:

    shiiit, i love some NY hiphop, but comparing some clown ass fools from NY to some even bigger clowns from somewhere else doesn’t make NY look better, it makes newyorkers look like assholes

    scarface > all of dipset
    any twista > any dipset

    just cause lil john is even worse, the comparison still doesn’t make NY look strong

  282. Skeeter Valentine Says:

    Don’t EVER disrespect Lil Jon. That man is a cultural icon. Who else could make the same beat over and over again and use it on multiple platinum singles with basically every relevant name in hiphop/r and b? He don’t hate on nobody. He can’t rap, he knows it, and he doesn’t even try to. He’s the realest nigga in hip hop in my opinion. He ain’t changed his style up like everybody else, he’s just doin HIM.

    *****

    NO NO NO. That nigga aint even doin him. I know u seen that highschool pic.

  283. p1 Says:

    >>Who else could make the same beat over and over again and use it on multiple platinum singles with basically every relevant name in hiphop/r and b?

    kanye

  284. GET Says:

    Jay signing Lady Sovereign = Cooning

  285. Paperstacker Says:

    Just saw the HOV video….

    When u put the video with the song shit is actually tight.. whips is crazy too

    Show mw what u got video> All southern videos out now

  286. landLORD Says:

    p1 Says:

    October 16th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
    >>Who else could make the same beat over and over again and use it on multiple platinum singles with basically every relevant name in hiphop/r and b?

    —————–

    … the Runners …

  287. G7 Says:

    my baby niece playing on a fisher price keyboard makes better beats than Lil’ Jon

  288. eskay Says:

    >>New york ain never been on some blast a ni99a in the face before. thats so west coast.

    sure you’re right.

  289. p1 Says:

    >>Who else could make the same beat over and over again and use it on multiple platinum singles with basically every relevant name in hiphop/r and b?

    neptunes corny ass, too

  290. Paperstacker Says:

    lol @ eskay callin ying yang twins gay for wisperin in hoes ears and uncle murda st8 for not talkin about hoes. Canigula ass nugga

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    what a rapper gotta talk about hoes 24/7.

  291. Paperstacker Says:

    The south is garbage mayne!!!

    Show me what u got video> Any south video

    The whips in that shit are crazy

  292. Foekist Says:

    NO NO NO. That nigga aint even doin him. I know u seen that highschool pic.

    $$$$

    I don’t know him personally, but he’s sticking to his own style. Face it, bro, there’s very few in the game really being who they are in their music. If that was the case all rappers would be in jail if they really lived their image. They’d be in gun fights every day and would be living Tony Montana lifestyles.

  293. Paperstacker Says:

    Pagani Zonda> Candy painted chevy with woodgrain

  294. Foekist Says:

    Aight this conversation is dead. Peace ott nigras

  295. Paperstacker Says:

    peace Foe….

    The south lost..

  296. landLORD Says:

    …we all lose…

  297. Plug Industries AKA The Gooch Says:

    …we all lose…
    —–
    COSIGN

  298. eskay Says:

    I will not lose. (c) Shawn Corey

  299. green eyes Says:

    hey now– no more talking about losing

  300. Rizz Says:

    so i watched that whole game thing
    how did those people think they won
    when all i heard during the “scuffle”
    was bws screaming blackwallstreet!
    and the london crew screaming
    “chill! chill!”
    and you won how?
    and i like how the guard was holding game back for the record

  301. yab_o_y Says:

    I WIN.

  302. yab_o_y Says:

    SAIGON > every south artist and 95% of new york artists

  303. I Fux Says:

    Yo I just bought that Lil Wayne Dedication mixtape album 1&2 on ebay, has anyone heard it. I am not a big fan of the dude but it was 5 dollars total and I decided to buy it ……. I also got the Clipse vol 1&2 of I got it for cheap

  304. Steelydang Says:

    Skeeter Valentine?

    Just met her!

  305. Shawn Lee Says:

    I might be late on this, but Nas’ Hip Hop is Dead statement is quite accurate. I found it interesting that Southern cats finally took exception to what Nas had to say about the culture. Obviously, on paper hip hop has experience tremendous growth. Enough growth to catch the attention of the corporate world where the true culture vultures lurk. A culture can only be capitalized on for so long before it loses touch with its roots, which is the statement that I believe Nas is making. You have to ask yourself, why you either make or listen to hip hop music. If money/entertainment is your motive then you probably don’t see a problem with hip hop in its current state. If you’re the type of person who seeks a message in the music, portrayed in an innovative way, you’re most likely completely disgusted with hip hop today. There are many of us that fall in between, but those that prefer the latter are absolutely right in stating that hip hop as we knew it – the skill based, innovative and ground breaking sound that spoke for the urban community – is essentially dead. Will true artistry ever be embraced again. Who knows…Probably not. But I support Nas wholeheartedly.

  306. nation of moderation Says:

    >> I will not lose. (c) Shawn Corey

    nas uses it in ether, not that you’ve ever listened to it though

  307. D.N.(The Kufi Smacker) i'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time Says:

    Did someone actually say

    Twista>Dipset? Thats a joke right? Twista fell of MUCH worse then Cam’ron did, all because super fast rapper sells more records don’t mean he’s good. His old shit was good, but he’s terrible now.

  308. esbee Says:

    Thanks for putting up the NYOIL youtube..pretty extreme in execution but it is getting ppl to talk about stuff, which is the best thing I like about this song..

  309. louiefuse Says:

    i watched the nyoil youtube… then the d block youtube right after it and
    im like Lord help us all!

  310. Shanti Says:

    shawn freco

    where is billz at?

  311. straightWestcoastin' but in a New York state of mind Says:

    wut u foos arguing about? this has juss been going in circles, swear. nobody in the end of the day is better then no one. fuk this shiet. always tryin to one-up the next man. that murda mu’fuka ain’t live out one line in any of his songs tho. i juss wish 2pac was around to end all this. i feel guiltly listening to hip hop lately.

  312. see the hand gun thru my t-shirt Says:

    apparently gangsters have a slang? so why do u people try to talk so smart when u think ur soooo gangster, get a life. mask long mean mug, creepin thru ur hooood

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