More On Cristalgate, Company Responds

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It has come to my attention that one of the quotes from Frédéric Rouzaud of Cristal was incorrectly attributed to him, when the words were actually those of the article’s author. Apparently the "unwelcomed attention" statemant was not in fact made by Rouzaud. This leaves the two sentences that he did utter when asked whether he felt the relationship between hip hop and the high priced champagne could be detrimental to his company:

"What can we do? We can’t forbid people from buying it. I’m sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business." 

Like I said over in the comments of Clyde’s post about the misquotation, the lack of the phrase "unwelcomed attention" does somewhat minimize the impact of the allegation. However, I still feel like a company who has reaped millions of dollars in revenue, plus enjoyed God only knows how much free advertising could at least sound a little more welcoming of our patronage. (Of course when I say ‘our’ I mean the ballers who actually buy this stuff.)

Some people have suggested that the comments were perfectly reasonable when you take the product’s  reputation and upscale clientele into consideration. To those people I say: bullshit. When I look at rappers nowadays, I see just as many wearing Gucci suits and being chauffeured around in Rolls Royce’s as I do guys in baggy jeans shooting at one another outside radio stations.

Does hip hop have issues? Of course it does, but you can’t tell me that the wealthy businessmen and socialites that also purchase this stuff are squeeky clean. I’m sure if we were all aware of some of the stuff these guys are guilty of, they’d make people like 50 Cent and Suge Knight look like altar boys.

Anyway, I say that to say this: I could care less about the image of your brand. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the activities that your customers are involved in, at the very least you should show some appreciation for their patronage or else keep your mouth shut. The idea that people can spend money on a product and then be talked down to because of the actions of a few is wholly absurd.

Anyway, today Louis Roederer Cristal issued the following statement:

"A house like Louis Roederer would not have existed since 1776 without being totally open and tolerant to all forms of culture and art, including the most recent musical and fashion styles which — like hiphop — keep us in touch with modernity."


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438 Responses to “More On Cristalgate, Company Responds”

  1. Front Says:

    I don’t really see how this could hurt this business. They make a limited amount each year and will always sell out. This is how these elite business’ work. Just because it is popular, it is not like they are going to make more to meet demand, just the price of the bottle at the retailer level goes up.

  2. Big E Says:

    Jay look like a beetle wit those shades on….

  3. Front Says:

    I am killin em out there, they needin first aid

    Holy shit, I just skipped down to the bottom and posted this, didn’t read the comments, can’t believe nobody else realized this. Well, I am the best. I don’t know why people even post anymore, I got all the “Best of 2006” categories locked down.

    I think the main elite community has actually moved away from Cristal & Dom Perignon to Krug, which would explain the not so ridiculous jump in bottle price, considering the expontentially increased exposure. Also, what I’m sure horrifies all elitists, is that Cristal pretty much gets every bottle popped every year, as opposed to large amounts of it getting stored away for maturation.

    eskay, saw some classic Nas comments, I’m surprised if they were not any Nas stan’s suicides as a direct result. You mentioned that the Hilton was not that rich, barely worth a billion, you need to realize how big a billion really is. People these days have a hard time understanding just how big a million is, much less a billion, because they hear those big numbers always be throwing around.

    A 1000 hours in 6 weeks.
    A 1000000 hours in 114 years.
    A 1000000000 hours in 1141 centuries.
    Civilizations have only been around for 55 centuries.
    Homo sapiens bave been in the Americas for 100 centuries.
    Homo sapiens have been in Europe for 400 centuries.

    You would have to go the moon and back 2094 times to get a billion miles on the odometer.

    A billion is really huge.

  4. iLL Change Says:

    @ Big E

    i said the same thing…
    http://nahright.com/news/2006/06/16/more-on-cristalgate-company-responds/#comment-73847

  5. realest rap bish ever Says:

    STILL BELIEVES THAT NONE OF THIS DOES SHIT TO BETTER THE GAME….OR HELP THE STATE OF HIPHOP……OR TO HARM THE SALES/IMAGE OF THE CRISTAL BRAND. IF THEY AINT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE HURT BY A NEGRO BOYCOTT OF THE PRODUCT. YEAH RIGHT. NIGGAS NEED TO LOOK AND THE BIGGER PICTURE AS ALWAYS. HOV—-BOY COTT SOME SHIT EVERYDAY PPL GIVE A DAMN ABOUT-LIKE POLICE BRUTALITY/INJUSTICE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DRUGS, AIDS, CHILD ABUSE WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE!!!!!!!!!!FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IS SICK OF PPL WITH MONEY AND POWER (HOWEVER LIMITED) NOT UTILIZING IT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE-DONT GIVE ME SHIT ABOUT CHARITIES AND DONATIONS- DO MORE NIGGAS. JUST LIKE U FEEL ITS NEVER ENOUGH CAKE AND MONEY AINT A THING, ITS NEVER ENOUGH YOU CAN DO TO ELEVATE YOUR PEOPLE. BANNING CRIS FROM A CLUB AINT DOING SHIT- JAY STANS, COME ON AT ME. IM READY, CAUSE U BETTER NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY THIS HERE. I DARE YOU TO SHOW THE IMBECILE YOU REALLY ARE. NOT FOR BEING A FAN, BUT FOR BEING BLIND………………….

  6. iLL Change Says:

    ^^ its like the female ty biggs… run-on sentences in all caps. no offense

  7. Front Says:

    Charity based on need does not help.

  8. realest rap bish ever Says:

    RUN ON SENTENCE=SENTENCES THAT DO NOT FOLLOW RULE OF GRAMMAR OR USE CORRECT, IF ANY PUNCTUATION. SO ARE ILLITERATE, OR JUST IGNORING PERIODS AND COMMAS, AND SO FORTH AS THEY CLEARLY APPEAR IN THE POST WHERE NEEDED. I POSTED THE CAUSE OF MY TYPING IN CAPS A LONG TIME AGO AND I DONT FEEL THE NEED TO GO IN TO IT AGAIN TO SATISFY YOUR POST-EDITOR THIRSTY ASS. IF U EVER IN YOUR LIFE COMPARE ME TO TYBIGGUMS, ILL HAVE 2 PROJECT BITCHES NAMED SWANIFAH AND TABREESHA COME TO YOUR JOB WITH CHILD SUPPORT DOCUMENTS, LOUD TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY GOT PICS OF YOU IN A PINK SEQUINED DICK-PLATE LIKE THAT RED SHIT NIGGA FROM CAMEO USED TO WEAR……….NO OFFENSE. DONT PATRONIZE ME ASSHOLE. FIND A GIRL WITH NO BACKBONE TO PICK ON. YOU WAYY UP THE WRONG TREE IN HERE. MATTER FACT, WHERE WERE U WHEN ALL THE BIRDS WAS IN HERE TALKING BOUT HOW THEY WANNA RUNN GROUPIE TRAINS ON JIM JONES? U AINT GOT SHIT TO SAY ABOUT THAT THO. NAH U GOTTA COME FUCK WITH THE GRAND HIGH OFFICIAL REALEST BISH OF HIP HOP, OUT OF PURE BOREDOM. LIKE I WONT AIR YOU OUT. MATTER FACT, FUCK IT. IMA JUST LET NIGGAS PLAY THEMSELVES IN BLACK AND WHITE, HELPIN NIGGAS NEVER PAYS.

  9. realest rap bish ever Says:

    Front Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 1:55 am
    Charity based on need does not help.

    MY POINT EXACTLY!

  10. iLL Change Says:

    god damn, i said no offense. what the fuck. i dont do the whole internet gangster shit, so dead that. i was juss pointin out similarities, it wasnt a diss. but the whole I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPITALS BECUZ OF THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON is kinda played out. do you scream when you talk in real life? or do you just think CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL?

  11. 456 Says:

    Front makes a good point. But the principle remains the same. Don’t patronize anybody that overtly disrespects you. its logic.

  12. 456 Says:

    front: what were the nas comments?

    ill change: realest rap bish is near-sighted.

  13. KingML Says:

    Getting drunk off champagne is fucking terrible anyways.

    Who gives a shit about any of this?

    Theres thousands of kinds of liquor and thousands of different companies making them.

    Champagne is for girls and bitches.

  14. realest rap bish ever Says:

    YOU ARE SADLY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I COME HERE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK. PLEASE GO AND GET SOMETHING THAT REMOTELY RESEMBLES A LIFE, AND ALLOW ME AND MY NUKKAS TO CHOP IT UP ABOUT THIS HIP HOP SHIT. DONT BE A DRAMA QUEEN GETTIN ALL OFF TOPIC ABOUT DUMB IRRELEVANT SHIT CAUSE U BORED AND IT ENTERTAINS YOU TO POP SHIT AT SOME GIRL U DONT EVEN KNOW…SAVE THE WHOLE “IT WASNT A DISS–FOOL U COMPARED ME TO TYBIGGUUMS!!! BETTER YET IF MY POSTS BOTHER YOU, HERES A THOUGHT–DONT READ EM! SEE….. NOW U LEARNIN’

    WHAT THE HELL DOES TYPING IN CAPS HAVE TO DO WITH LIFE IN THE REAL WORLD, AND HOW I TALK TO PEOPLE…SOME OF YOU NIGGERS IS CRAZY—WORD TO RICHARD PRYOR ON THE N WORD SPELLING.

    IF THERES A CRUISE CONTROL BUTTON FOR BEING WACK AS SHIT ITS ATTACHED TO YOU BRAIN, AND WE UNFORTUNATLEY CANT TURN THE DAMN THING OFF SO CAN WE MOVE ON>>>>>>>

  15. realest rap bish ever Says:

    @ILLCHANGE

  16. realest rap bish ever Says:

    AND IM NO HYPOCRITE CHICK, BECAUSE I NEVER COME UP HERE DROOLING BOUT SOME TIRED RAPPERS IMAGE OR HOW I WISH I COULD FUCK THEM/GROUPIFY MYSELF. FROM NOW ON ES, U SHOULD TO SCREEN THE WOMEN THAT COME HERE, SOME OF THESE MAN-STANS TOO IN THE FORMAT OF A MINI QUESTIONAIRE, IT WOULD GO SOME THING LIKE THIS HERE:

    1. HAVE YOU EVER ENGAGE IN ANY TYPE OF SEXUAL CONTACT/ENCOUNTER WITH A RAPPER THAT COULD CLOUD YOUR PERCEPTION OF “GOOD MUSIC”?

    2. DO YOU KNOW ANY THING ABOUT RAP MUSIC PRE-1990?

    3. NAME 3 HIP HOP PIONEERS (HINT: DO NOT TYPE “JAY Z OR NAS OR BIGGIE”), WE MEAN OG’S. NO RECENTLY DECEASED ARTISTS.

    4. WHAT IS THE LAST ALBUM U PURCHASED? CERTAIN TITLES WILL BAR YOU IMMEDIATELY FROM NAHRIGHT MEMBERSHIP INCLUDING D4L, DFB, AND YOUNG JOCS RECENT RELEASES.

    5. WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL HOST OF RAP CITY. NO, BITCH, IT AINT BIG TIGGER.

    6.NAME ONE STAR FROM ANY ONE OF THESE FILMS: BREAKIN 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO; BEAT STREET; WILD STYLE-

    7. NAME ANY 2 FEMALE RAPPERS WHOSE ALBUMS CERTIFIED RIAA PLATINUM BEFORE 1998.

    8. BREAK DOWN/NAME THE ELEMENTS OF HIP HOP

    9. DEFINE THE MEANING OF THE TERM “SWAGGER JACKER”

    10. NAME 3 ARTIST YOU CONSIDER “UNDERGROUND”

    I EFFIN SWEAR IF U MAKE A LEAST ONE CHICK HERE TAKE THIS QUIZ NAH RIGHT WILL BE A BETTER, SAFER, GROUPIE FREE ENVIRONMENT.
    PLUS THE ANSWERS WILL PROBABLY BE HILARIOUS. I KNOW PLENTY OF GIRLS WHO COULD ACE THE FUCK OUTTA THIS. BUT IM WILLIN TO BET FEW IF NONE OF THEM POST HERE FREQUENTLY. WILL ALL THE REAL HIP HOP CHICKS AT NAH RIGHT STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, WE NEED UNITY—-STRENGTH IN #’S! LADIES REPRESENT, HOOCHIES SIT DOWN. IF MY HOMIES AGREE, SAY AYE!

    FELT THE NEED TO REPOST–

  17. realest rap bish ever Says:

    AND IM NO HYPOCRITE CHICK, BECAUSE I NEVER COME UP HERE DROOLING BOUT SOME TIRED RAPPERS IMAGE OR HOW I WISH I COULD FUCK THEM/GROUPIFY MYSELF. FROM NOW ON ES, U SHOULD TO SCREEN THE WOMEN THAT COME HERE, SOME OF THESE MAN-STANS TOO IN THE FORMAT OF A MINI QUESTIONAIRE, IT WOULD GO SOME THING LIKE THIS HERE:

    1. HAVE YOU EVER ENGAGE IN ANY TYPE OF SEXUAL CONTACT/ENCOUNTER WITH A RAPPER THAT COULD CLOUD YOUR PERCEPTION OF “GOOD MUSIC”?

    2. DO YOU KNOW ANY THING ABOUT RAP MUSIC PRE-1990?

    3. NAME 3 HIP HOP PIONEERS (HINT: DO NOT TYPE “JAY Z OR NAS OR BIGGIE”), WE MEAN OG’S. NO RECENTLY DECEASED ARTISTS.

    4. WHAT IS THE LAST ALBUM U PURCHASED? CERTAIN TITLES WILL BAR YOU IMMEDIATELY FROM NAHRIGHT MEMBERSHIP INCLUDING D4L, DFB, AND YOUNG JOCS RECENT RELEASES.

    5. WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL HOST OF RAP CITY. NO, BITCH, IT AINT BIG TIGGER.

    6.NAME ONE STAR FROM ANY ONE OF THESE FILMS: BREAKIN 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO; BEAT STREET; WILD STYLE-

    7. NAME ANY 2 FEMALE RAPPERS WHOSE ALBUMS CERTIFIED RIAA PLATINUM BEFORE 1998.

    8. BREAK DOWN/NAME THE ELEMENTS OF HIP HOP

    9. DEFINE THE MEANING OF THE TERM “SWAGGER JACKER”

    10. NAME 3 ARTIST YOU CONSIDER “UNDERGROUND”

    I EFFIN SWEAR IF U MAKE A LEAST ONE CHICK HERE TAKE THIS QUIZ NAH RIGHT WILL BE A BETTER, SAFER, GROUPIE FREE ENVIRONMENT.
    PLUS THE ANSWERS WILL PROBABLY BE HILARIOUS. I KNOW PLENTY OF GIRLS WHO COULD ACE THE FUCK OUTTA THIS. BUT IM WILLIN TO BET FEW IF NONE OF THEM POST HERE FREQUENTLY. WILL ALL THE REAL HIP HOP CHICKS AT NAH RIGHT STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, WE NEED UNITY—-STRENGTH IN #’S! LADIES REPRESENT, HOOCHIES SIT DOWN. IF MY HOMIES AGREE, SAY AYE!

    FELT THE NEED TO REPOST–

  18. realest rap bish ever Says:

    KingML Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 6:16 am
    Getting drunk off champagne is fucking terrible anyways.

    Who gives a shit about any of this?

    Theres thousands of kinds of liquor and thousands of different companies making them.

    Champagne is for girls and bitches.

    IT IS? OH– THAT EXPLAINS ALL THE EMPTY CRISTAL BOTTLES THAT LITTER ME AND MY HOMEGIRLS MY BEDROOM FLOORS…U SERIOUS?…..I THOUGHT CHAMPAGNE WAS MORE OF A FAKE BALLER THING THAN A GIRL THING. JUSTIFY THIS GIRLS AND BITCHES STATEMENT—–SO IT SOUNDS LESS LIKE U HATE WOMEN,AND MORE LIKE U HATE CHAMPANGE, WHICH WAS THE DESIRED EFFECT, I BELIEVE……I HOPE!

  19. 456 Says:

    HIPHOP101 Says:
    June 16th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
    yo off the topic, there is a skit on ghostface’s ironman album before the song wildflower, what movie is that from?

    ^^ The Education of Sonny Carson. A classic. Sorry didn’t see that post before.

  20. Down South Repin Says:

    realest rap bish ever yo azz is to long winded. You gotta breathe before your slumped over your keyboard from passing out. Goodness

  21. Down South Repin Says:

    You runnin for office

  22. iLL Change Says:

    realest rap bish —

    I WASNT DISSING YOU. got it? who gives a fuck whether you’re compared to ty biggums, you dont know him (or me) in real life, so why does it matter at all? you seem to know your hip hop shit, i can respect that. do your thing. i wasnt tryin’ to be a “DRAMA QUEEN” or “POP SHIT AT SOME GIRL” that i dont know. i didnt know you were near-sighted, so caps lock it all you want. whatever. i’ll see you in the next Nah Right Skit.

    for real tho, where’s that skit?

  23. skinnykennyp Says:

    who cares about what ol’ Cameltoe Joe is drinkin or not drinkin these days

  24. eskay Says:

    Well, I’m not gonna get into why this issue matters to people who don’t buy Cristal, I’ve already been through it several times in several threads and this post pretty much lays out what I think about the whole incident.

    But realest rap bish, let me ask you this, what would you do if you had big money? You said charities and donations aren’t enough so what exactly would you do if you were a multi millionaire?

    you said that they didn’t care about our sales anyway but yet they issued the statement above specifically mentioning hip hop, so I’d say they definitely give a fuck about our sales.

    people who think this has nothing to do with any of us take offense to this boycott like “how dare Jay even bring up this shit to us, we can’t afford Cristal” those people are missing the point though. for one thing why are you taking it so personally?

    but really why are you making it so complex? it’s a very simple situation: a company made off handed remarks, and so they lose some business as a result. Jay was one of the main people who made this product cool and so he felt he had a responsibility to bring the company’s remarks to the attention of the people he was telling to drink this shit.

    that’s it, end of story. for people to turn around and be like “fuck this Cristal shit, it has nothing to do with us” they sound ridiculous. if you don’t drink the shit then don’t worry about it, just keep drinking whatever you drink and keep it moving. now people wanna be like Jay needs stand up for something that matters to us. If I was Jay I’d be like “man fuck ya’ll, I’m just trying to let you know what these people said about us, now I’m getting attacked?”

    the same people talking about how this is irrelevant to us, would be the same people dissing him if they found out about Cristal’s remarks on their own and realized Jay hadn’t said shit. I can hear them now: “why didn’t jay and Puff and all them speak up about this? they’re the ones who got niggas drinking this shit in the first place.”

    you can’t win with the general public because everybody thinks they know what’s best for the world or their opionion is the right one.

    furthermore, I hope all these people who are talking all that help the community shit are doing the same themselves. I hope that right now on Saturday afternoon you’re out helping the less fortunte and not on Nah Right reading this, cuz if not then you have no case.

  25. The Truth... Says:

    ^^^ Very true….you can’t win. People will always have something to say, no matter what you do. Too many people with too many opinions…you can’t make everybody happy.

    Personally, I think Jay was right to say those things for the reason eskay said (he made it big, etc….). I personally don’t need someone to organize a boycott to understand if I should do something or not. Quit makin a big deal about this. Ok, they were unappreciative of our business….whatever. You’re upset? Quit drinking it….I don’t know about y’all but I got bigger things to worry about than what the people at Cristal think….

    @ eskay

    Yes, I think Puffy and Jay are classy, and yes I think the people should have not made those comments because it just shows that they don’t respect us, but at the same time, ballers drink that shit, but do you think they give a fuck about the people that own the company?
    What I’m trying to say with that is, if I don’t care about someone, I can’t be upset if they don’t care about me.

    Can’t get too into it….gotta bounce.

  26. Blood Hound Says:

    Drinks Corona….. Fuck cristal!

  27. Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    Realest Rap Bitch,

    If you can’t see, get glasses. Or if you don’t want to get glasses increase the text size of your internet browser. At the top buttons, click “View” then “Text size” and choose something bigger. I don’t want to sound like I’m knocking you, or sound like a nerd, but looking at one sentence with like 3 paragraphs thrown in it (in caps) is annoying.

  28. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    @ skinnykennyp

    lol cameltoe joe

  29. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    man…
    fuck joe camel
    fuck cristal
    fuck Frédéric Rouzaud

    str8 henny-hen-hen over here…mixed with that sizzzzzzzurp

  30. Karen Says:

    “I mean you see the Paris Hiltons and those types drinking it in clubs…”

    We don’t see the Bill Gateses and those types in the clubs at all. Aren’t they the ones Louis Roederer is trying to sell Cristal to?

    “but i actually do wanna see the econimist or wherever the interview comes from”

    http://www.economist.com/intelligentlife/luxury/displayStory.cfm?story_id=6905921

    “And once again, we’re not sayin’ rich white kids didn’t know about it, we’re sayin’ HE MADE IT POPULAR.”

    Some of the kids probably thought “I know about that, it’s for old fogies like my parents” before Jay-Z made it popular.

  31. t.r.t.o.n.r. 4x platinum (10x globally) Says:

    just more space on tha shelf fa armadale….

  32. Des Says:

    i can answer that quiz and im faaar from a rap groupie. :-)

  33. Demiks Says:

    Ya know what?! Fuck Cristal, fuck button up shirts, fuck trying to front like money comes easy.

    All I need is water, a bucket hat, and a some timberlands.

  34. Demiks Says:

    Noreaga before he went wack…

    http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BAE187B35B4B9864

  35. realest rap bish ever Says:

    YO ESKAY, THIS ONES FOR YOU…..

    THIS POST WILL NEVER DIE…
    ILL RESPOND INDIVIDUALLY-
    Down South Repin Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 7:41 am
    realest rap bish ever yo azz is to long winded. You gotta breathe before your slumped over your keyboard from passing out. Goodness

    LONG WINDED? I BET U BE AT HOME MOUTHING THE WORDS AS U TYPE HEHEE. NAH THANKS, I LIKE BEING A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. APPRECIATE YA CONCERN FOR MY RESPIRATORY HEALTH THO—ANYWAY…

    What I’m trying to say with that is, if I don’t care about someone, I can’t be upset if they don’t care about me.

    Can’t get too into it….gotta bounce.

    YO ES, I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POST, MY POINT IS IM NOT UPSET…NOT SURE WHERE U GOT THAT FROM….SURE OF COURSE WE SHOULDNT SUPPORT THEM, AND PLENTY OF HARRY AND NORMS OUT HERE NEVER PATRONIZED THEM ANYWAY, SO FOR THEM ITS JUST SOLIDIFY THE REASONS FRIVOLOUS THINGS LIKE OVERPRICED TOILET WATER IS UNNECS. I THINK YOURE GETTING DEFENSIVE SEEING THIS AS A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH JAY AND THATS NOT THE CASE. IM SAYING HOW DOES THIS “BAN” CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THE IGNORANCE AND GROSS MATERIALISM THAT WE ARE FED ON A DAILY? IT DOESNT. IT JUST MEANS NEGROS ARE GONNA FIND A NEW BANDWAGON TO HOP ON, AND LINE SOME OLD RICH RACIST FUCK WADS POCKET, HOWEVER THEY DECIDE TO PROMOTE WHAT EVER NEXT YEARS NEW “IT SHIT” IS. AND IN MY VIEW, YEAH THE BAN AND THE STATEMENT JAY MADE IS COOL, OF COURSE HE SHOULD HAVE OR HED LOOK A DAMN FOOL, I COUNT AT LEAST 5 HITS HE HAS WHERE HE NAME DROPS CRIS, SO HOW COULD HE NOT ADDRESS IT. HE CAN IGNORE CAM ALL HE WANTS AND NOONE WILL CARE, BUT HE HAD TO HANDLE THAT BUSINESS. IM SURE IF HE WASNT NOW A CLUB OWNER WHO SELLS THE PRODUCT, THE ISSUE MAY NOT HAVE RECIEVED THE SAME LEVEL OF PUBLICITY. HE WOULDVE JUST STOPPED SHOUTIN OUT CRIS ON TRACKS AND WE WOULD VE SEEN A LITTLE SIDEBAR STATEMENT INSTEAD OF AN ARTICLE. NOW GET OUT HERE AND REACH OUT TO THESE KIDS WHO BUY THE CRIS, AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT THAT IS PIMPED ONTO THEM BY (WHOEVER, THE BLAME LIST COULD GO ON FOREVER)……

    SINCE U MENTIONED ME PERSONALLY, AND WHAT I CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SOCIETY, PLENTY, AND I ENJOY IT AND TAKE PRIDE IN IT, WITHOUT GOING TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL AND GIVING UP UNNESC. BIO INFO, LETS JUST SAY I HELP KEEP VA ON THE MAP, AND I TRY TO DO MY PIECE IN MAKING IT A SAFER, FUNNER (HEEHEE) PLACE FOR KIDS IN THE SEVEN CITIES AGES 5-18. NUFF SAID, NOT THE KINDA PERSON WHO GOES AROUND PROVING SELF TO PEOPLE YA KNOW, YOU KNOW ME YOU SEE IT, OK GOOD, CAUSE ITS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT. WERE SUPPOSED TO LEND HANDS, U, ME EVERYBODY.

    CHARITIES AND DONATIONS (WHEN HANDLED PROPERLY) SERVE A PURPOSE BUT WHAT MOST OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS NEED AND LACK ARE, A WARM WILLING ABLE BODY THAT GIVES TIME, RECRUITS FOR THE CAUSE AND GETS THE MESSAGE OUT THERE, UNTILL THE PUBLIC TAKES NOTICE FOR GOOD. TO USE YOU POWER AND TIES TO MOTIVATE CHANGE, WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND FORCEFULLY. ILL SAY IT AGAIN. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, BABY, AND THAT IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM. ITS ABOUT SHIT NIGGERS (PARDON THE TERM BUT IS WHAT IS) WONT EVEN DO IF U PAID EM. SURE SIGN A CHECK FOR 100 THOU OR WHAT EVER AND SEND IT IN. AND THEN YOURE SATISFIED WITH SELF. BUT I WONDER, DEAR GOD I WONDER, IF ANY OF THEM (QUIETLY WHEN ALONE) LOOKED IN THE MIRROR AND SAID, IS THERE MORE I COULD HAVE DONE?

    THAT BEING SAID IF I HAD ACCESS TO THE KINDA PAPER JAY TOUCHES, (IM NOT SO SURE THATS AS GRAVY AS IT SEEMS- A PURE HEADACHE IN ITSELF, ITS COSTS SO MUCH ( MORE THAN MONEY,) TO BE FILTHY RICH. BUT CONSIDERING THAT ID SPEND MORE TIME REACHING OUT, LESS ROLLING AROUND IN MY MONEY VAULT LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK, TRAVELING THE WORLD BIGGING UP MY CAUSE AND FINDING SUPPORTERS. YET AGAIN BEFORE ES BLOWS HIS STACK, THIS IS NOT, IS NOT ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER, THIS IS LIFE, AND HOW WE IMPROVE IT. THIS AINT ABOUT ME OR YOU EITHER, BIGGER THAN THAT, YOU SEEM TO BE A SMART MAN SO I HOPED YOUD GET THAT.

    BY THE WAY CUTE LITTLE QUIP ABOUT BEING ON YOUR SITE ON A SAT. AFTERNOON. WOULD YOU RATHER PEOPLE NEVER COME TO YOUR SITE? I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE POINT OF “ACCESS”, WHICH IS WHAT WHAT THE INTERNET IS, CONVIENENT ACCESS TO INFORMATION WHEN YOU YOU ARE ACCESSIBLE. THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND TIME U BROUGHT THT UP WHICH IS ILL TO ME, CUZ THE REGULARS ARE HERE WELL, ON A REGULAR. IF THIS IS PERSONAL AND YOUD RATHER ME NOT BE HERE, AND DONT VALUE MY OPINION (AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN, ESKAY GOT DAMN U, IT ALMOST APPEARS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WOMEN HAVING A MIND OF THEIR OWN, AND VOICING IT!) IF YOURE GONNA BARK EVERYTIME SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOUR IDEAS, YOURE MISUNDERSTANDING THE TERM “MODERATOR”. NOW IM BEING A LADY HERE, AND IM PUTTING IT OUT THERE: I AM SICK OF SEXISM, GROSS MATERIALISM, AND RACISM, ALL THE DAMN ISMS THAT HAVE NO PLACE IN HIP HOP, AND HAVE MADE THE GAME WACK. AND IF YOU OR NAH RIGHT ARENT DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THAT, THEN U TELL ME WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY? THATS NOT A QUESTION FOR ME, THATS SOMETHING FOR SELF. I DIDNT JUDGE ANY ONE I SPOKE TRUTH, AND U STILL HAD ANA FOR ME. SO IT JUST COMES OUT LOOKIN LIKE WOMEN CANT WIN FOR LOSING HERE. IVE SEEN ENOUGH TO BUILD MY CASE AND THE GIRL BASHING SPREE NEEDS TO END, CAUSE SAME GUYS DO NOT TALK TO THEIR LADY OF THE HOUSE LIKE THAT, CAUSE SHES GONNA MAKE HERSELF HEARD. SO CONSIDER ME “WIFEY” @ NAHRIGHT: YOU KNOW U LOVE ME, U OUGHTA RESPECT ME, EVEN WHEN IM ON YA NERVES, U STILL KISS ME MISS ME SO DONT EVEN PISS ME…
    IM EXTENDING MY HAND CAUSE I LIKE THE SITE, ITS REFRESHING AND HONEST, AND FULL OF COMEDIANS, BUT IM BEGGING YOU, TO EASE OFF SOME ON THE WHOLE “IF U DONT AGREE YOUR WACK, AND YOU DONT BELONG” MENTALITY. YOURE WALKING AROUND THE REAL ISSUE.

    Demiks (a.k.a. I knew Cristal would retract too late) Says:

    June 17th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
    Realest Rap Bitch,

    If you can’t see, get glasses. Or if you don’t want to get glasses increase the text size of your internet browser. At the top buttons, click “View” then “Text size” and choose something bigger. I don’t want to sound like I’m knocking you, or sound like a nerd, but looking at one sentence with like 3 paragraphs thrown in it (in caps) is annoying.

    YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOT TO LOOK AT ALL. IF YOURE INTERESTED IN WHAT IVE POSTED, IM SURE CAPS LOCK SHALL NOT KILL YOU DEAD THRU YOURE EYEBALLS. IF IT DOES, IM CALLING RIPLEY’S BELEIVE IT OR NOT ASAP SON. FROM NOW ON I AINT ADRESSING THE PETTY STUFF. MY VISION IS USUALLY HANDLED BY AN OPTOMETRIST, BUT UH.. OKAY. YEP. HMMM. IF YOU EYE SOCKETS ARE LEAKIN FROM IT, THATS DEEP.

  36. eskay Says:

    Realest Rap Bish,

    Now I see where you’re coming from because you expnaded on what you meant, but your first comment didn’t sound much like this last one. Let me give you a quote to show you what I mean: “JAY STANS, COME ON AT ME. IM READY, CAUSE U BETTER NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY THIS HERE. I DARE YOU TO SHOW THE IMBECILE YOU REALLY ARE. NOT FOR BEING A FAN, BUT FOR BEING BLIND…………………”

    ^ so I hope you can see how I might take offense to that comment.

    Let me be clear, I have absolutely no problem with girls/women commenting on this site. If anything I’d like to see more females on here voicing their opinions. I don’t think I’ve ever personally went at you so I’m not sure why you feel as if I’m anti woman.

    That being said, it gets pretty hectic up in this bitch so don’t for a minute think you’re not gonna get any hate. Shit all the dudes, myself included, get hella hate on the daily, so women shouldn’t expect to be treated any differently.

    As for the “IF U DONT AGREE YOUR WACK, AND YOU DONT BELONG” MENTALITY” what can I say. That’s how I argue. My ex used to always complain to me about that tone I take when I think know I’m right, but I can’t help it, I get it from my pops.

    And for the record, I’m not a moderator, I’m a blogger. This isn’t a message board it’s a blog, and there’s a subtle difference. My posts are heavy with opinion and my personal views on stuff, and I vehemently defend those views in the comments. However I never delete comments unless they are really out of line and offensive, and I never tell anybody they can’t post here so even though I’m an opinionated dude, you should never feel unwelcome here.

    The Saturday afternoon quip was meant exactly how it came across. It was for anybody talking all that help the community shit but is sitting at home on their day off dicking around on a website. There’s nothing wrong with that, shit I was on here on Saturday afternoon, but it’s like don’t talk all that riteous shit if you ain’t doing nothing (not you, just in general). I take shots at the regulars sometimes but it’s all in fun. it’s more like me being mad cuz I’m so busy and I can’t be up in every convo like I’d like to be, so I take a little pot shot. it’s nothing.

    I got nothing but love for everybody who comes to my site and the last thing I wanna do is offend people and make them not want to come back (well maybe a few people, but not you ;-)

  37. realest rap bish ever Says:

    ok, ok, now back up off me with all that warm fuzzy ish, i felt your hand on my ass. i feel you on the whole being mad at not being to keep up with whats going on due to time constraints, its like dumb nigga posted up here, when he leaves, niggas pull out chicken and 40’s and roll up, start pouring cups of henny and the party get crunk, and when hes back its dead again. *can take the heat at nahright, decides to stay in kitchen*;hugs all jay fans tightly and wipes tears away, heehee.

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