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May 22nd, 2006 at 1:48 pm
1sT. Young Hov’ in the building
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:48 pm
1st. H to the OV…wish I was east coast and could have caught this…good luck to the roots
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pm
Uh oh, looks like Hov rocked the mic.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pm
3rd?
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pm
no..
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Dumb Nigga, where did you sleep the past couple days?
You could actually sue Eskay, He shoulda gave you a 2 week notice.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:59 pm
I slept in the trash can, no lie man. You see it rained, so my cardboard box got all soggy, so i couldn’t sleep in that.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
I slept over at sohh, although nobody was home, they always leave the rooms open.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Sohh is cool and all, but everyone usually leaves around 11:00 p.m. Sometimes you’ll see the occasional vacant spot people there, but it’s only good to sleep there during the day, meaning take a nap there.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:04 pm
when did young older hova become infallible?
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Hater Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Dumb Nigga, where did you sleep the past couple days?
You could actually sue Eskay, He shoulda gave you a 2 week notice.
Dumb Nigga Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:59 pm
I slept in the trash can, no lie man. You see it rained, so my cardboard box got all soggy, so i couldn’t sleep in that.
OOOOOO MAN THIS CRACK STARTS UP RIGHT WHERE IT LEFT OFF,
DID ANYONE ACTUALLY SEE THE SHOW ( EVERYONE I KNOW IS MAD HEATED CAUSE EVERYONE GOT TICKETS FOR THE FIRST NIGHT THINKING IT WOULD BE THE BETTER NIGHT BUT I GUESS WITH NO HOV THAT CANT HAPPEN.
THANK GOD I CAN FINALLY COP AGAIN CAUSE I COULDNT DEAL WITH THIS DETOXING SHIT ANY LONGER, I MEAN I WAS OK OVER THE WEEKEND BUT IVE BEEN SHAKING AND SWEATING ALL DAY TODAY I NEED MY CRACK TO GET THROUGH WORK, I SWEAR I AINT MISSING THE 5’0 CLOCK FREE CRACK GIVEAWAY TODAY
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Yo Ty, i saw you trying to get some crack over at Sohh. I’m guessing there crack isn’t as good.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pm
YEA I THOUGHT THAT WAS ESKAY POSTING ON SOHH SO I FIGURED ID GET AT HIM BUT I DONT THINK IT WAS HIM, AND YEA MAN I WAS LIKE A OPE HEAD TAKING METHIDON ALL WEEKEND, YEA IT KEPT ME ALIVE BUT I WAS FIENDING FOR THAT UNCUT RAW ALL WEEKEND
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pm
just when i was on my way to the roof i told myself to check nahright one more time before before i jump…close call
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Yeah i don’t think that was him over at Sohh either. But my suggestion about if the sites ever down again, try using heron, because it will help you sleep better. A heron site would have to be…..I don’t know right now, probably a boring one, considerig it puts you to sleep, but it’s gotta be interesting also, but it just puts you to sleep.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pm
What do yall think about that new Cam album?
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Oh Cams album will put you to sleep too
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
>>What do yall think about that new Cam album?
Some of the beats are good, lyrically though, bullshit.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:32 pm
Hater Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Oh Cams album will put you to sleep too
Dumb Nigga Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
>>What do yall think about that new Cam album?
Some of the beats are good, lyrically though, bullshit.
________________________________________________
excactly. I don’t even think the beats are that good. Maybe because I expected better. but it doesnt compare to purple haze. Heatmakerz are fallin off.
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:35 pm
*jumps for joy*
Nah right is back!! ES you don’t know how mad i was when i got home from work friday I just knew it was gonna be some hot shit posted but to my surprise no one was home. so like any normal fiend would do i went threw your past post & i notice how far you came in just one year. it was one thread i was reading where like 30 comments was considered a good thread now 30 comments is looked at as a flop. I said all of that to say this “yo you came up what what makin it happen” Keep doing your thing & if you shut this site down again at least let us know in advance
yours truly: the guy on the couch
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:38 pm
**edit**
yours truly (no homo): the guy on the couch
no need to thank me
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pm
KonishiwaBitches Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pm
just when i was on my way to the roof i told myself to check nahright one more time before before i jump…close call
Dumb Nigga Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Yeah i don’t think that was him over at Sohh either. But my suggestion about if the sites ever down again, try using heron, because it will help you sleep better. A heron site would have to be…..I don’t know right now, probably a boring one, considerig it puts you to sleep, but it’s gotta be interesting also, but it just puts you to sleep.
Manolo AKA Plug industries Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pm
What do yall think about that new Cam album?
Hater Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Oh Cams album will put you to sleep too
MAN I FORGET THE PURE COMDEIC GENIUS THAT IS DISPLAYED ON THIS SITE EVERYDAY
Dumb Nigga Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pm
>>What do yall think about that new Cam album?
Some of the beats are good, lyrically though, bullshit.
YUP STORY CHECKS OUT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE EVERY CAM ALBUM IVE EVER HEARD, PURPLE HAZE IS BY FAR THE BEST BUT THATS CAUSE THOSE BEATS ARE CLASSIC, I HAVENT HEARD THIS ALBUM YET ( BUT IVE HEARD OVER HALF THE ALBUM ON DIFFERENT MIXTAPES AND SHIT AND I AM REALLY TIRED OF THE DR.SUESS SHIT AND HIM TRYING TO OUT STUPID HIMSELF WET WIPES I.B.S. I MEAN I CANT STOMACH ANYMORE OF THIS CLOWNERY
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:47 pm
Thanx manolo
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pm
what up pepz, good to be back in the chat, yo hov killed like always, nuttin new yo anyone know where i can the black album acapella
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:55 pm
HIPHOP101
http://www.musicoutfitter.com/store/item/602498622902.html
JUST ONE OF MANY SITES
WERE YOU AT THE SHOW FRIDAY NIGHT? DID HOV DO ANY MORE THAN THOSE COUPLE OF SONGS OR WAS THAT YOUTUBE PRETTY MUCH IT
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Whats happenin? Seems like its been a long time since I chatted wit yall but aint shit changed. Damn I wish I could have been at that concert at Radio City!
Holla at yall unfortunately Im at work
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
anyone know what happened on the sapranos lastnight?
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:58 pm
WHATS CRACKIN G-TOWN G, DAMN I FEEL LIKE IVE WENT OT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I FEEL LIKE I GOT TO STOP BY AND SAY WHATS UP TO ALL MY PEOPLES AND CATCH UP
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:59 pm
This site is like a good cut buddy. If the bitch leaves for the weekend you actually miss her.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pm
^^^they killed vito
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pm
KonishiwaBitches Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
anyone know what happened on the sapranos lastnight?
YEAH I KNOW BUT DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW OR WAIT TO SEE IT ?
ILL TELL YOU IT WASNT A VERY EXCITING EPISODE THEIR WERE 3 GREAT SCENES AND CRAZY FILLER, ILL TELL YOU WHAT ENT DOWN IF YOU WANT TO KNOW BUT IM NOT GONNA RUIN IT UNLESS YOU ASK FOR ME TO RUIN IT.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pm
@KonishiwaBitches
they killed vito
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pm
KonishiwaBitches Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
anyone know what happened on the sapranos lastnight?
Vito got cue sticked
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm
VERY TRUE BLUE VERY GOD DAMN TRUE
AND WELL HIPHOP JUST TOLD YOU ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE SHOW LAST NIGHT, BUT THERES MORE TO IT LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:02 pm
DBrown11 Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pm
KonishiwaBitches Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
anyone know what happened on the sapranos lastnight?
Vito got cue sticked
DONT FORGET ABOUT THE 3 BALL IN THE SIDE POCKET
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:02 pm
@tyronebiggums71
good look, i gotta get that joint, you know everyone’s puttin jay on their hooks, so im tryin to do one.
nah i wasnt there, i made it sound like i was tho,lol
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:04 pm
^^^ YEA YOU DID, LIKE I SAID EVERYONE I KNOW WENT TO THE FIRST NIGHTS SHOW THINKING TAHT WAS GONNA BE THE BIGGER NIGHT
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pm
@tb
was it the same show everynight, just without jay?
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:08 pm
damn es, theres no place like home
pass the pipe
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:09 pm
I listened to some old Nas over the weekend… and he is the greatest M.C ever.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:10 pm
I LIKE TO SAY CONGRADS TO ALL THE GRADUATES (INCLUDING ME) THIS SEASON.
CELEBRATION BITCHES
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 pm
@coldplayReggaetonslasher
and you came to that cause you listened to some of his old stuff,how old?
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:14 pm
NAW THE FIRST NIGHTS SHOW WAS MUCH MORE HIP-HOP THATS THE ONE WITH COMMON, NAS, TALIB AND KANE FRIDAY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE R&B WITH AND SHIT.
ALSO BACK TO THE SOPRANOS SIL IS THE MAN, HE WASNT ABOUT TO TAKE NO SHIT FROM THAT FAT DOM TALKING SHIT, FUCK SOME NEW YORK DUDE THINKING HE CAN COME RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT THE JERSEY FAMILY AND NOT BE TOUCHED
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:15 pm
tyronebiggums71 Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm
VERY TRUE BLUE VERY GOD DAMN TRUE
AND WELL HIPHOP JUST TOLD YOU ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE SHOW LAST NIGHT, BUT THERES MORE TO IT LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS
——————————–
I smell a novel comin on
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
dont know about the greatest mc ever, but I do know that stillmatic and I am were very very good albums. better than 90 percent of the rap albums that have been made.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
@hiphop101 from illmatic to stillmatic
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
HIPHOP101 (im a stan) Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 pm
@coldplayReggaetonslasher
and you came to that cause you listened to some of his old stuff,how old?
HE MUST BE TALKING ILLMATIC/IT WAS WRITTEN OLD CAUSE WEVE BEEN OVER THIS THERE AINT NOTHING EVEN LUKE WARM PUT OUT AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
Nas = Greatest mc ever? I don’t think so
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
Nah Right’s back? oh shit, lemme get some of that.
Just Blaze is a swagger jacker. he stole the beat for that track Jay was performing from a song by O.C. called “Point O Viewz” off his first album.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:17 pm
@tb
yo is this the last season
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pm
how was I am and stillmatic lukewarm? Every reviewer gave them great reviews even respected cats in hip hop was like stillmatic was dope. I am too.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pm
i wish NaS would have given the world one more Illmatic before It Was Written.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:21 pm
Manolo AKA Plug industries Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:15 pm
tyronebiggums71 Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm
VERY TRUE BLUE VERY GOD DAMN TRUE
AND WELL HIPHOP JUST TOLD YOU ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE SHOW LAST NIGHT, BUT THERES MORE TO IT LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS
——————————–
I smell a novel comin on
SEE THIS IS THE SHIT IVE MISSED, THE NOVEL WILL ONLY BE WRITTEN IF ASKED FOR BY KONISHWA
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
dont know about the greatest mc ever, but I do know that stillmatic and I am were very very good albums. better than 90 percent of the rap albums that have been made.
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
@hiphop101 from illmatic to stillmatic
PLEASE PEOPLE WE REALLY NEED TO STOP THIS MYTH GOING AROUND THAT STILLMATIC AND I AM WERE EVEN DECENT ALBUMS, THAT IDEA IS A BLATANT BOLD FACED LIE GET OVER IT STILLMATIC IS HORRIBLE ABSOLUTLY AWFUL AND I AM DOESNT HAVE MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS ON IT, ILLMATIC, IT WAS WRITTEN AND THATS IT PLEASE STOP SPREADING THIS MYTH THAT HE LIVED UP TO HIS POTENTIAL AND TALENT WITH THOSE ALBUMS. SEE THE PROBLEM IS YOU PEOPLE SAY YOU FEEL THAT WAY SO NAS DOESNT FEEL THE NEED TO REALLY COME HARD AND BRING BACK SOME ILLMATIC TYPE SHIT, YOU GUYS KEEP PERPETUATING THIS MYTH THAT THOSE ALBUM WERE EVEN DECENT, TELL THE MAN THE TRUTH SO WE CAN GET HIM TO LIVE UP TO HIS POTENTIAL, AS NAS FANS YOU GUYS SHOULDNT JUST ACCEPT THE SUB PAR MATERIAL HE PUT OUT YOU SHOULD FEEL JIPPED AND RIPPED OFF HE SLACKED AND DIDNT COME WITH THAT HEAT WE EXPECTED.
DONT BELEIVE THE HYPE
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:21 pm
HIPHOP101 (im a stan) Says:
@tb
yo is this the last season
Jan will be 8 more episodes
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:23 pm
@ty,illchange, and the rest of you none believers
this is why nas is the greatest mc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq8JP8kzRE&search=nas
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:23 pm
talking about nas albums and putting mile long nicknames…
someone’s tryna awake the beast
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:24 pm
iLL Change Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
Nah Right’s back? oh shit, lemme get some of that.
Just Blaze is a swagger jacker. he stole the beat for that track Jay was performing from a song by O.C. called “Point O Viewz†off his first album.
UUUUMMMM DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIP-HOP, ALMOST EVERY HIP-HOP RECORD EVER USES SAMPLES FROM OLD SONGS OR EVEN JUST REDO OLD BEATS, THATS HOW HIP-HOP PRODUCTION IS DONE BY BREAK AND BEATS AND LOOPING OLD SONGS.
HIPHOP101 (im a stan) Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:17 pm
@tb
yo is this the last season
NO THE SEAON FINALE IS IN 2 WEEKS AND THEN THE FINAL SEASON STARTS IN JANURARY BUT ITS ONLY 8 SHOWS ( THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST SEASON BUT THEY SPLIT IT UP INTO 2 SEASONS TO MILK IT )
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:25 pm
*walks in the room scratchin’ his arms, fresh outta Detox*
Damn, it felt like an eternity when the site was down. Anyway, what up everybody. Hope everybody weekend was cool, mine was crazy. Saw a car flip over on my way home from a graduation party Saturday night. Four seconds earlier and ya boy wouldn’t be here to tell this story.
Did anybody actually get to go to the second show on Friday night? I wish could have been there. If so, let me know if you got to peep J*DaVey.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I actually had a good weekend d.billz, caught up on some good hip hop, and watched a couple of flicks, I just dont understand how no one else sees it, that Nas is the greatest M.C ever.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:32 pm
so if an album is not illmatic its wack?
How is stillmatic and I am trash? Maybe that is a myth to you because you believe that if it isn’t illmatic it’s trash. That’s not thinking logically and only your emotions are into it.
stillmatic and I am are some of the better albums made even the source before its credibility ran through gave I am 4.5 and XXL gave stillmatic a xl. all the other reviewers said it was a good album. Even people who dont like rap say that those are tight albums.
Please name some better albums in recent years whose albums were not classics of just regular artist? Maybe you dont like Nas cause he fell off illmatic but that doesnt mean those two albums weren’t good. Every album can’t be illmatic.
Why dont you judge jay like that. He has no albums NEAR reasonable doubt but you say he hasn’t fell off.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pm
^ fucking good point boosie
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pm
nas is one of the greatest but the greatest ever, nah cant ride with that
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Nas I am = average Nas I am The autobiography = damn near classic don,t belive me hears the track list
Nas i am the autobiography
1) Fetus – belly button window
2)small world
3)money is my bitch
4)project windows
5)poppa was a playa
6)Dr knock boots
7)day dreamin feat nature
8)sometimes i wonder
9)the hardest thing
10)drunk by myself
11)wanna play
12)blaze a 50
13)we will survive
Nas i am
1)intro
2)ny state of mind
3)hate me now
4)small world
5)favor for a favor
6)we will survive
7)ghetto prisoners
8)you wont see me tonight
9)i want to talk to you
10)dr knock boots
11)nas is like
12)nature shine
13)life is what you make it
14)big things
15)pray
16)kissing
17)money is my bitch
18)undying love
now you tell me which one is better. I am was overall wack because of all the album fillers on it like kissing, you wont see me, dr knock boots etc while the autobiography was like 13 songs.
sidenote: i am the autobiography was the original i am
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I actually had a good weekend d.billz, caught up on some good hip hop, and watched a couple of flicks, I just dont understand how no one else sees it, that Nas is the greatest M.C ever.
_____________________
better than rakem,hov, or knowledge rules supreme…or even pac? He is one of the greats, but the greatist, nah
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Biggum,
basically you’re saying that if it isn’t illmatic its wack. for nas.
So does nas get judged by a different standard?
sure nas has put out some dirty diapers but jay put out a couple of shitty diapers too right? vol3 blueprint 2
To everyone in here: WHo all believe that I am and stillmatic were complete trash?
Who believes that they were decent albums?
Biggums you are the only person who is saying they are trash. No one else thinks that but you? are you the sole judger of hip hop?
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:40 pm
I AM
1. Album Intro Listen – GOOD INTRO
2. N.Y. State Of Mind Pt. II – GOOD SONG ONE OF VERY FEW
3. Hate Me Now – THIS IS THE EXACT SHIT IM TALKING ABOUT WITH HIS HOT GARBAGE AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN HOW CAN ANY ALBUM WITH SONGS LIKE THIS AND DR. KNOCKBOOTS ON IT BE CLASSIC OR EVEN CLOSE
4. Small World – NOTHING SPECIAL
5. Favor For A Favor -NOTHING SPECIAL
6. We Will Survive – REALLY NOTHING SPECIAL
7. Ghetto Prisoners – GOOD SONG
8. You Won’t See Me Tonight – DO I EVEN HAVE TO COMMENT
9. I Want To Talk To you – AGAIN IS A COMMENT REALLY NESSECARY
10. Dr. Knockboot – SEE HATE ME NOW
11. Life Is What You Make It – WHERE ALL THIS GROUND BREAKING CONSCIOUSNESS NAS FANSARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT
12. Big Things – COME ON
13. Nas Is Like – ILL SONG BUT WE HAVE PREMO TO THANK FOR THE CLASSIC BEAT
14. K-I-SS-I-N-G
15. Money Is My Bitch
16. Undying Love
ALL THESE LAST 3 FALL INTO IS THIS REALLY NAS CATEGORY
STILLMATIC
1. Stillmatic (The Intro)
2. Ether – NICE LITTLE GENERIC DISS TRACK WITH ILL BEAT AND NICE CATCHY HOOK
3. Got Ur Self A… – SAME THING AS ETHER ILL BEAT NICE HOOK DECENT SONG
4. Smokin’ Listen – YOU SERIOUS?
5. You’re Da Man – AGAIN SERIOUS?
6. Rewind – THIS SHIT IS CLASSIC WONT LIE BUT DOESNT MAKE THE ALBUM ALONE
7. One Mic – AGAIN ILL BEAT BUT REALLY A REAL OVERRATED SONG IF YOU ASK ME, I MEAN I LIKED IT BUT IT WASNT EVEN CLOSE TO AS GOOD AS PEOPLE MAD IT SEEM.
8. 2nd Childhood – NOTHING SPECIAL
9. Destroy & Rebuild – CORMEGA DISS YEA CHECK MEGA DISSES TOWARD HIM SEE WHO GOT WHO
10. The Flyest – THE FLYEST YEA THAT SOUNDS LIEK SOME CONSCIUOS NAS THERE
11. Rule – BORING
12. My Country – DECENT AND CATCHY SPITS SOME TRUTH BUT STILL DOESNT MAKE THE ALBUM
13. What Goes Around- I FUCKED WITH THIS SONG RAL HARD BUT STILL NOT ENOUGH SORRY
14. Every Ghetto – POINTLESS
SORRY NAS STANS BUT THERE ISNT CLOSE TO ENOUGH GOOD MATERIAL AS COMPARED TO THE BAD MATERIAL WITHIN THESE ALBUMS AND THEY ARENT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO HIS POTENTIAL SO I SAY THEY ARE SUB PAR AKA HOT GARBAGE
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:42 pm
don’t believe the hype, Blueprint 2 was dope. it was waay better than Nas’s double album
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:44 pm
ty, you wildin whoady. Hate me now is one of my all time favorite songs. that song gives me goose bumps (no metro) when I think of how these haters be hatin. Thats the livest song on the album besides favore for a favor.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:44 pm
Why dont you judge jay like that. He has no albums NEAR reasonable doubt but you say he hasn’t fell off.
I DO JUDGE JAY-Z LIKE THAT EVERY ALBUM HE HAS IS FAR ABOVE AVG. HE HAS CLASSICS ON EVERYTHING AND VERY LITTLE FILLER, I MEAN IN ALL SERIOUSNESS BLACK ALBUM WASNT FAR OFF ROM REASONABLE DOUBT AND WHEN YOU DISAGREE THATS WHEN I WILL KNOW YOU ARE JUST A NAS FAN/ JAY HATER, THATS THE DIFFERENCE I AM A FAN OF BOTH BUT I CAN LOOK AT THE SUB PAR MATERIAL FROM NAS AND JUDGE IT FAIRLY AND BE HONEST
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 pm
I didnt say I am or stillmatic was classic. That’s the mistake you make. You are judging nas by a different standard.
I’m beginning to see why you dont like nas. You dont like nas, solely on the beef he had with jay-z, cause even you say that ether is a nice generic diss, but you dont want to give him its credit.
Nas is like- oh so it wouldn’t have been tight if preemo wasn’t on it? Can you give him credit where credit is due
one mic–lol, you really struggled to like this song. It’s obvious that you have emotional hate for his songs
2nd childhood- Nothing special? lmao, ha ha, this is his best song on the album. Biggums you really are showing.
Sorry biggums but you are losing your credibility. Just admit it, you dont like nas cause of the beef with jay and that these albums aren’t illmatic. Stop letting your emotions get to you. calm down.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:48 pm
Yes blueprint 2 was hot i get into arguements with niggas that never even heard the album. If you really listen to that album you can’t tell me it’s wack
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:51 pm
Manolo AKA Plug industries Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I actually had a good weekend d.billz, caught up on some good hip hop, and watched a couple of flicks, I just dont understand how no one else sees it, that Nas is the greatest M.C ever.
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better than rakem,hov, or knowledge rules supreme…or even pac? He is one of the greats, but the greatist, nah
EXACTLY I AM A NAS FAN BUT THE BEST EVER TO MUCH DISAPPOINTMENT AND LETDOWNS FOR THAT
BUT NOW
Manolo AKA Plug industries Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:44 pm
ty, you wildin whoady. Hate me now is one of my all time favorite songs. that song gives me goose bumps (no metro) when I think of how these haters be hatin. Thats the livest song on the album besides favore for a favor.
I HATE THAT SONG ONE OF MY MOST HATED SONGS EVER I WANTED TO PUNCH NAS IN HIS FACE WHEN THESE WORDS CAME OUT HIS MOUTH
Don’t hate me, hate the money I see, clothes that I buy
Ice that I wear, clothes that I try
Close your eyes, picture me rollin,
sixes, money foldin
Bitches honeys that swollen
the riches, nas get in ya
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:52 pm
yeah eskay blue 2 was way better than streets disciple no doubt.
but it was his worst album. It wasnt that bad but it wasnt all that good either.
FAVOR FOR A FAVOR- nothing special??? ha ha it’s really really showing. That was fire if I have never heard it. Scarface spitting, nothing special???
Black album just as good as reasonable doubt??? lets see, change clothes, justify my thug.
Yes black album was a good album but it was like his third best album. Thats funny how you think I am a nas stan when I like jay much better than nas. I’m just not one sided cause of the beef they had.
Black album does definitely not compare to reasonable doubt. You are committing rap treason if you say that. Plus I like reasonable doubt better than illmatic, thats my personal preference.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pm
eskay Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:42 pm
don’t believe the hype, Blueprint 2 was dope. it was waay better than Nas’s double album
YYEEEESSSSSSSSIIIIR
IF YOU MADE BP2 INTO ONE ALBUM IT WOULD BE AN EASY CLASSIC IF YOU TOOK STREET DISCIPLES YOU WOULD BE LUCKY TO GET A HOT SINGLE WITH A B SIDE
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pm
manolo I think its knowledge reigns supreme, and yes greater than Hovito, maybe equal in status with Rakim. Some of you are getting it twisted what makes an mc great, heres a clue, it has nothing to do with record sales, and everything to do with the heart of the MC.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pm
@ Boosie
I disagree, I think Vol 3 and Vol 2 are both worse than Bp2 and up until recently I would’e probably also said the Dynasty as well
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pm
justify my thug was the shit
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pm
if you’re a Hov fan, the Black Album will be a classic. I say will be, because I think calling albums younger than 5 years old is premature
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pm
ty biggums,
you can’t judge material fairly.
Like I said I like jay way better than nas, but I am able to give credit where credit is due.
bottom line is you dont like nas cause he fell off from illmatic.
has jay made wack songs?
‘”Who be, in a Japanese restaurant, eating sushi
Drinking saki, it’s me, and my mami with the doobie
Cutie, smellin like Tiaka, half-Phillipine thing”–sunshine( a very tight song right?)
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:59 pm
listen to songs like starwars, poison, carry the cross. better yet dont listen, because its hard to find tracks that suit Nas’s lyrics, and most of you just listen to a beat and assume its a good song. Read the lyrics to each one of those songs I just mentioned
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:59 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 pm
I didnt say I am or stillmatic was classic. That’s the mistake you make. You are judging nas by a different standard.
I’m beginning to see why you dont like nas. You dont like nas, solely on the beef he had with jay-z, cause even you say that ether is a nice generic diss, but you dont want to give him its credit.
Nas is like- oh so it wouldn’t have been tight if preemo wasn’t on it? Can you give him credit where credit is due
one mic–lol, you really struggled to like this song. It’s obvious that you have emotional hate for his songs
2nd childhood- Nothing special? lmao, ha ha, this is his best song on the album. Biggums you really are showing.
Sorry biggums but you are losing your credibility. Just admit it, you dont like nas cause of the beef with jay and that these albums aren’t illmatic. Stop letting your emotions get to you. calm down.
AGAIN YOU CANT READ SO KNOW I OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE ( AND MANY STOP CHANGING NAMES THAT SHIT IS GAY AS HELL ) I LIKE NAS I AM A NAS FAN BUT IM LOGICAL AND REALISTIC AND EVERYTHING AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN WAS SUB PAR, NOT NESSECARILY TRASH BUT SUB PAR MEANING BELOW AVG. AND THATS THE TRUTH REAL TALK NO LIES
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:59 pm
speaking of the Little Homey, here are some clips of him from Thursday night. I was gonna post one of these until I saw the clip of Shawn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKGIvN2kq-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S31XfDH-TKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUwt3saYY
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:00 pm
coldplay not once in these nas/ jay arguements no one (to my knowledge) mention record sales. it’s not about record sales it’s about growth in a artist every album jay shows growth while nas on the other hand stays still from time to time. think about how much different the blueprint sounds compared to the dynasty now think about how different god son sounds compared to street disiple get my drift
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm
“but dont say the cars topless, say the titties is out”
hip hop at its best,
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm
^ wack
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm
this nigga nas is Gods son-and Rakim is God
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:52 pm
yeah eskay blue 2 was way better than streets disciple no doubt.
but it was his worst album. It wasnt that bad but it wasnt all that good either.
Thats real talk Nas double album was some bullshit but Blueprint 2 is by far Jay’s worst album, it wouldnt be classic if he combined it into one, that is the worst shit ever not including DYNASTY and that Shit with Kels
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:05 pm
well eskay thats if you have blueprint 2.1, that might be better than 3 or 2 but the full version is not that good.
again jay-z’s albums have never been purely trash it just he had a couple where they weren’t up to his potential, but I’m not going to say they were wack like some people just because it doesn’t compare to doubt. You see the difference?
Now the dynasty was one of my favorites, but thats just personal preference, see how we are disagreeing on hov’s albums, but that just means he puts out good material so everyone has their personal preference.
The point is just because an album is not doubt or illmatic status doesn’t mean the album is trash. Ty is just mad cause nas didnt make a classic like illmatic.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Oh yeah, ESKAY Welcome Back, I had to work on Saturday and that shit sucked not having the comments to laugh at
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Oh yeah, ESKAY Welcome Back, I had to work on Saturday and that shit sucked not having the comments to laugh at
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:06 pm
BOOSIE – AGAIN I AM A NAS FAN BUT I STOP LIKING HIS MUSIC AFTER NASTRADAMUS WAAAAAYY BEFORE THE JAY BEEF AND IN FACT I DIDNT EVEN LIKE JAY WHEN HE FIRST CAME OUT ( CAUSE ALL I HEARD WAS HIS REAL COMMERCIAL SHIT AND I THOUGHT HE WAS TOO POPPY * GOD DAMN WAS I WRONG ON THAT ONE * BUT I ACTUALLY HATED JAY WHEN I STARTED TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT THAT NAS HAD DONE FALLEN THE FUCK OFF.
BUT LUCKLY I HAD A GOOD FRIEND WHO SMACKED THE SENSE INTO ME AND MADE ME LISTEN AND KNOWLEDGE JAY’S ALBUMS AND I HAVE BEEN A FAN EVERY SINCE I HAVE NEVER ONCE DISAPPOINTED WITH A JAY-Z ALBUM PURCHASE, NOT ONCE NOT EVER NOT EVEN BP2 NAS HASNT SATISFIED ME ( NO CAMRON ) SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN THATS THE DIFFERENCE THATS WHY HE ISNT CLOSE TO THE BEST MC EVER. AMONG THE GROUP OF BEST EVER DEBATE SURE BUT DEFINTELY NOT THE BEST TO MUCH GARBAGE SORRY FACE THE TRUTH.
” THE TRUTH CAN HURT YOU/
SO I BLOW SMOKE AT THE TRUTH COMMERCIALS “
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:08 pm
NOT ONCE NOT EVER NOT EVEN BP2 NAS HASNT SATISFIED ME ( NO CAMRON ) LMAO!!!!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pm
dynasty wack? i don’t think so. sub par depends on who you talk to. blueprint 2 jay-z worst album please put down the crack pipe. It wasent jay best work but it wasent his worst either. Best of both worlds = party album that’s some shit you listen to before you hit the club it wasent wack tho. if you wanna look at it like that qb’s finest was wack the best songs on the album nas wasent even on
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pm
@joe88
you said “sounds compared to street disiple get my drift ”
A real artist dosnt compromise his creative freedom because theres a shift in the type of music thats being accepted. Remember Jay looking like joe camel, in that song where he had the shiney suit on looking like one of puffy videos, because thats what was hot at the time. you mentioned growth, which I agree, but Nas is too advanced already, so the ones who didnt understand him back then, will never understand him today. Joe and Ty, Nas will never make the album your looking for because hes not one to conform. so sept 06 when eskay post the leaked album, I’m pretty much can predict what your thoughts will be.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:11 pm
I never said he was the best mc ever
I said that you obviously have a disliking of nas albums because what cormega and jay said about nas. You only like nas cause its the cool thing to do.
biggums, sorry but now since I have seen your reviews of each son, its obvious that you are either biased or just plain dont like nas. You didnt even want to give him credit on his good songs. how do you explain that?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:15 pm
FAVOR FOR A FAVOR- nothing special??? ha ha it’s really really showing. That was fire if I have never heard it. Scarface spitting, nothing special???
YEA I WAS STRECTHING IT WITH FAVOR FOR A FAVOR BUT MOST THE HEAT WAS BROUGHT BY FACE.
Black album just as good as reasonable doubt??? lets see, change clothes, justify my thug.
YOU JUST NAMED THE ONLY 2 SONGS ON THE ALBUM THAT ARENT DAMN NEAR CLASSIC. AND JUSTIFY MY THIGS IVE SAID THE BEAT AND HOOK IS HORRENDOUS BUT HE KILLS HIS VERSES I MEAN DSTROYS THEM.
Yes black album was a good album but it was like his third best album. Thats funny how you think I am a nas stan when I like jay much better than nas. I’m just not one sided cause of the beef they had.
ITS FUNNY YOU THINK I DONT LIKE NAS JUST CAUSE OF THE JAY BATTLE, AGAIN I USED TO NOT LIKE JAY AND I WAS A HUGE NAS FAN BEFORE THE BEEF NASTRADAMUS IS WHERE I LOST MY LOVE ( NO CAMRON ) FOR NAS AS AN ARTIST AND HE HASNT DONE ANYTHING TO EARN IT BACK. BLACK ALBUM I WOULD SAY WAS HIS SECOND BEST ALBUM AND IT IS CLOSE TO REASONABLE DOUBT AS CLOSE AS ANYONES 10TH ALBUM HAS EVER BEEN TO THEIR 1ST THATS FOR GOD DAMN SURE.
Black album does definitely not compare to reasonable doubt. You are committing rap treason if you say that. Plus I like reasonable doubt better than illmatic, thats my personal preference
SEE STATEMENT ABOVE. ITS DEFINTELY NOT RAP TREASON SAYING ITS CLOSE TO AS GOOD A ND I COULD LISTEN AND MAKE ARGUEMENTS THAT IT WAS BETTER ( I WOULDNT HONESTLY BELIEVE IT BUT I COULD )
AGAIN I AM A NAS FAN BUT HE HASNT PUT OUT ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY NEAR HIS CLASSIC IN ALMOST A DECADE. IM A YANKEE FAN GREW UP WITH BERNIE WILLIAMS AS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLAYERS EVER BUT DOES THAT MEAN IM HAPPY WE HAVE TO PLAY HIM IN THE FIELD EVERYDAY ? FUCK NO, BERNIE STILL IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE ONE OF MY FAVORITES BUT I DONT WANT HIM OUT THERE MAKING ANY SHORTY YOU CAN HOLD MY ICE TYPE SHIT, I WANT THE WINS/ HITS AND IF NAS CANT DO IT K.I.M. AND JUST GIVE ME GOOD OLD RELIABLE JAY
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:18 pm
If you come on here pointing out wack songs that nas made but never criticize jay for doing some trash songs, its obvious what you are about.
we all know nastradamus and streets disciple was trash God’s son was not that tight.
NO one else is saying nas album’s are trash but biggums everyone else is saying they are decent, but could be better.
But biggums you seriously fouled when you said black album is as good as reasonable doubt. Thats like comparing iverson’s best year to jordan’s best year sure they are both great but jordan’s best year can’t be topped.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pm
@coldplay
Nas did make the album i wanted but he never released it. (I am the autobiography) did you read the track list that i posted a half an hour ago? please read it i think any nas fan would rather have that album than the real i am.
Coldplay says:
A real artist dosnt comprimise his creative freedom because theres a shift in the type of music being accepted.
^ so what do you call the song he did with ginuwine? i think that’s comprimising you creative freedom because of the shift in the music
“bounce it, shake it, move it around/
wiggile it a little bit throw it to the south” – nas you owe me
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pm
reasonable doubt = illmatic
bluprint= I am
stillmatic=blueprint 2
black album= nastradamus
streets dicsiple=the dynasty
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:59 pm
listen to songs like starwars, poison, carry the cross. better yet dont listen, because its hard to find tracks that suit Nas’s lyrics, and most of you just listen to a beat and assume its a good song. Read the lyrics to each one of those songs I just mentioned
I HAVE LISTEND TO ALL THOSE AND I LOVE EVERYONE BUT THERE IS TOO MUCH YOU CAN HOLD MY ICE HATE ME NOW GARBAGE. YEA JAY ALWAYS HAS 2-3 WACK COMMERCIAL SONGS HE PUTS ON THE LABUM BUT THE WHOLE ALBUM BESIDES THAT IS CLASSIC NAS HAS LIKE 3 OR 4 GREAT SONGS AND THE REST FILLER.
B.O.O.S.I.E. – ALSO AGAIN I LIKE NAS ( MY REAL PROBLEM TODAY STARTED WHEN COLDPLAY SAID HE WAS ASILY THE BEST EVER AND MEANWHILE YOUR AGREEING WITH ME THAT JAY IS BETTER BUT YOUR STILL SRGUEING WITH ME ??? ) YES JAY HAS MADE SOME WACK SONGS AND SOME WACK VERSES BUT NO WACK ALBUMS NAS HAS MADE WACK ALBUM AFTER WACK ALBUM AND ONLY A COUPLE CLASSIC SONGS HERE AND THERE
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:23 pm
so biggums let me ask you some questions:
who had the better diss song ether or takeover?( I dont need a novel explanation just the word)
why do you keep pointing out wack shit that nas put out but wont dare to point out the garbage songs jay put out? why do you keep repeating the things jay said about nas?
So the problem is that nas has not put out anything near illmatic but who has? name some albums since illmatic that are remotely close to it( getting ready to laugh)
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm
Joe since the begining of hip hop, every rapper had a song out either for the bitches, or about the bitches. thats just part of it, when I said comprimise I meant a whole album with no substance ie. politics, religion, social awareness.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm
goddamn it I just typed up all the crack songs on Bp2 and fucking lost it when I clicked submit. fuck you tif you think I’m typing it again. my point was that album was crack. you only have to remove like 6 songs from the two disks and you have an incredible album
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm
“but dont say the cars topless, say the titties is outâ€
hip hop at its best,
WOW SEE YOU JUST DESTROYED YOUR OWN LOGIC, WHAT NAS IS BEST AT IS DEFINTELY NOT MAKING ONE-LINERS LIKE THAT, AND SHIT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE BRAGGING ABOUT MONEY AND BITCHES TO ME, WAS HE ROCKING THE COOFI WHEN HE SAID THAT LINE? NAS IS AT HIS BEST WHEN HE IS AT THE DIRECT OPPISITE OF TALKING LIKE THAT
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:26 pm
why does everybody keep pointing out the shorty owe me ice song, the one that jay pointed out.
has anyone ever heard
Hey papi?
sunshine?
city is mine?
I know what girls like???
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:26 pm
Lol @ how Reggaeton manages to manipulate everyone into the Nas/Jay debate.
Jedi mind trick…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:27 pm
but ty doesnt jay brag about his shit?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:28 pm
Boosie, all those Jay songs are better than You Owe Me, say no
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pm
IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE THEIR IS A DOUBLE STANDARD HERE. I’M GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
I LIKE JAY AND NAS BOTH BUT THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS SHOWING LIKE SOME TIRE MARKS IN YO DIRTY DRAWS, THROUGH SOME OF YOU.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pm
@eskay, its called balance, most artist dont have it, and dont care about their influence over the youth, that line is just pure nigga braggadocio, that pull your yankee cap down type shit, its what real niggas want to hear..but there is another side “I know I can”
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pm
eski eski,
you cant be serious? Really I can careless to judge wackness against wackness but if I was I would say you owe me is better than city is mine and girls like, but they are all trash, why even compare????
It’s easy to see where you are at.
Do you honestly compare garbage with garbage?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pm
that last comment was made for ty^
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Eskay says:
Boosie, all of those songs are better than you owe me, say no
*in cali voice*
true, true
hey papi was my shit. “I know what girls like” hated it i think it was that annoying beat that made me hate it so much
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Name one song Jay ever made, promoting peace, or encouraging the youth.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pm
No one is questioning that nas has fell off, but come on guys there could never be another illmatic, never another reasonable doubt.
Ty biggums is the ONLY one to say I am and Stillmatic are just plain TRASH.
If you say “I dont like stillmatic and I am cause it doesnt compare to illmatic”, then its understandable. But to say they are just completely trash obviously shows your biasness.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 pm
“How could I tease them with Benz’s and feel no remorse”
Nas schooling these greedy rappers.^
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:39 pm
have you ever heard the song “the streets” it’s on the best of both worlds that’s just one song that comes to mind
@coldplay
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 pm
there is a double standard here and I know why.
Nas is supposed to be a street poet, but he is not allowed to comment on ice and stuff, and if he does its wack.
But jay is allowed to talk about, and its not wack.
See the double standard!!!!
Nas can talk about anything he likes. If he comments on ice why does that make him less of a rapper? why can jay do it but nas dont?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:41 pm
tell him boosie^
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:18 pm
If you come on here pointing out wack songs that nas made but never criticize jay for doing some trash songs, its obvious what you are about.
we all know nastradamus and streets disciple was trash God’s son was not that tight.
NO one else is saying nas album’s are trash but biggums everyone else is saying they are decent, but could be better.
But biggums you seriously fouled when you said black album is as good as reasonable doubt. Thats like comparing iverson’s best year to jordan’s best year sure they are both great but jordan’s best year can’t be topped.
AGAIN SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN THERE WE HAVE GOTTEN 75-80% TRASH FROM NAS AND MAYBE 20% HEAT JAY IS THE EXACT OPPISITE BUT AGAIN MY VIEWS OF NAS CHANGED BEFORE I EVEN LIKED JAY-Z READ WHAT I SAID, BALCK ALBUM REALLY ISNT FAR OFF FROM REASONABLE DOUBT AND ANY REAL HIP-HOP FAN WILL TELL YOU THAT AND LIKE ESKAY SAID WAIT ANOTHER 5 YEARS SEE IF ITS A CLASSIC THEN ( CAUSE IT WILL BE GAURANDAMN-TEED
AND YES PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES ME DO THINK EVERYTHING AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN WAS TRASH AND I THINK ITS TRASH CAUSE IT NOT UP TO NAS POTENTIAL AND LOTS OF IT ISNT EVEN UP TO BOW WOW’S LEVEL ( OK CALM DOWN THAT WAS A STRETCH IT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE JUST A JOKE BUT STILL THE POINT IS MADE ) I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THE NEW NAS ALBUM CAUSE I THINK HOV AND THEBEATS WILL FORCE HIM TO MAKE SOMETHING AS GOOD AS IT WAS WRITTEN. AND NO AN ALBUM DOESNT HAVE TO BE NEAR ILLMATIC FOR ME TO LIKE IT IT JUST HAS TO HAVE MORE THAN 4 OR 5 DECENT SONGS FOR ME TO SAY ITS A HOT ALBUM ( WHERE MADDENMASTER ALL THE ARGUEING WE HAVE DONE ABOUT JADAKISS DO I EVER SAY HIS ALBUMS WERE HOT ? NO HIS ALBUMS REALLY ARENT THAT GREAT HE IS STILL ONE OF THE BEST ALIVE, GREAT LYRICIST, MIXTAPE BULLY BUT HIS ALBUMS ARE SUB PAR JUST LIKE NAS, AND I WAS RESPONDING TO COLDPLAY SAYING HE WAS THE BEST EVER NOT YOU
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:43 pm
i meant why can jay do it but nas can’t?
and no jay never promoted peace or encouraged the youth, but again that wasn’t who jay was. Sure he commented on issues but he never went as far as nas did who explicitly tried to do it, but their goals were different.
It doesnt mean its bad or good, thats just who they were.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:43 pm
aight im done with this one, I think hes cooked, stick a fork in him (no homo)
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Every time nas make a flashy song (you owe me, hate me now shit of that nature) it’s wack am i lying?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pm
DAMN IM MAD LATE IN THIS ARGUEMENT AS I AM TRYING TO FINISH MY WORK FOR THE DAY, BUT IM LEAVING TO GO ON A PIFF MISSION ILL GET BACK AT YOU FOOLS LATER
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 pm
Ochiee wally really motivated the kids to get there phd’s
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pm
but biggums you are eskay’s little brother and stan so obviously the two of you think a like.
But how can you say he hasn’t lived up to his potential? that means that jay hasn’t lived up to his potential either, since reasonable doubt.
I’m not hearing any real good critics or people who know real music saying black album is a classic. It’s obviously not. It’s a 4.5 or a 4 but not a 5. If you hear someone say that it’s obvious the love they have for jigga
and the same thing for jadakiss can be applied for buddens too and a lot of other rappers.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:49 pm
*Comes in late*
Whats goin on? Anyone check out killa season?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:53 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm
“but dont say the cars topless, say the titties is outâ€
hip hop at its best,
Damn you beat me to that quote, Nas is that crack, Hovs content will never match dude because dude is way too deep, Hov know about Nas and is a fan of dude, you dont “partner” with lackluster emcees thats illogical, Ty dissin Illmatic? “REDBALLS, Its cocaine in a can baby!” Just sip that homie dont guzzle it. LOL
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:53 pm
personally I dont think hate me now was wack. Oochie wally had a tight beat, but the body guard did have a better verse.
But joe why does nas have to make a song for kids to get a phd everytime he raps?
If he is only supposed to be in a box to make a song about social issues?
has jay’s song’s ever got the kids to get PHD’s
As I said I’m going to get to the bottom of this and point out the double standards here. If you have a personal preference cool, but dont sit up and say somebody is trash just cause they had beef with someone that you like better.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:56 pm
iLL Change Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm
Nah Right’s back? oh shit, lemme get some of that.
Just Blaze is a swagger jacker. he stole the beat for that track Jay was performing from a song by O.C. called “Point O Viewz†off his first album.
UUUUMMMM DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIP-HOP, ALMOST EVERY HIP-HOP RECORD EVER USES SAMPLES FROM OLD SONGS OR EVEN JUST REDO OLD BEATS, THATS HOW HIP-HOP PRODUCTION IS DONE BY BREAK AND BEATS AND LOOPING OLD SONGS.
Listen to “Point O Viewz” he stole the WHOLE BEAT, not just a sample.
@ reggaeton
i think NaS is one of the illest MC’s ever, top 5.
@ tyronebiggums71
>>2nd Childhood – NOTHING SPECIAL
that song is CLASSIC, r u out your goddamn mind? one of Preemo’s best beats ever
im out
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Another Nas argument?
*Walks off*
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Sorry ty biggums,
I really think you are the only one who thinks 2nd childhood is nothing special. Your dislike for nas is obvious. No on here is agreeing with you. No one. Most people on here are real fans of real hip hop.
I just dont respect your bias. You say that nas is talking about ice with a coofie on, so is that not allowed. Is someone automatically trash cause they wear a coofie and talk about ICE? But if you wear ice and airforce one’s and talk about it then its tight?
Rakim–mentioned ice
krs one–mentioned ice
guru–mentioned ice
ice cube-mentioned ice
ll cool j-mentioned ice and women a lot
tupac-mentioned ice
ghost-mentions ice(and wears wild jewlery)
Big-mentions ice
Pun-mentions ice
all these rappers have rapped about ICE but somehow nas can’t
Do you people see the double standard here.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 pm
has anyone ever heard
Hey papi?
sunshine?
city is mine?
I know what girls like???
Not to mention that Diamonds track on the Swizz Beat or the Swagger Jacked Me and My Girlfriend.
BTW Made You Look >>> 99 Problems Yep I said it…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Big E Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Another Nas argument?
*Walks off*
Listens to reason and then follows logic…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:11 pm
i think jigga nas beyonce and kelis should do a video as richard pryor and bill cosby in “california suite” rent the movie and then laugh at the joke
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:12 pm
Can people see the case that I am making for the double standard.
I have consistently poked holes in others case about how I am and stillmatic were trash.
If those two albums were trash. I definitely want to know what’s mediocre!!!!
ty what’s mediocre, I want to know???
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm
NaS Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pm
reasonable doubt = illmatic
bluprint= I am
stillmatic=blueprint 2
black album= nastradamus
streets dicsiple=the dynasty
this is my problem now i realize this dude named himself nas but nastradamus = black album come on people thats a joke
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pm
…there’s always been a double standard when Nas is concerned…but that is life at the top…his greatness has caused him to be held at to a higher standard than others, this is because he has bless us with so many lyrical jewels…so, when he dumbs down, it’s so much more obvious…Hova, as great as he is, isnt held to the same standards as Nas because there are different reasons for their greatness…while Hov is no slouch lyrically, it’s his crystal clear, distinct voice, and his flawless flow that make him great…with Nasir, his lyricism, storytelling, and his ultra-poetic verses have made him great…apples and oranges…aint no best..
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pm
Who in here other than biggums think I am and stillmatic was TRASH+???????
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:23 pm
so biggums let me ask you some questions:
who had the better diss song ether or takeover?( I dont need a novel explanation just the word)
takeover hands down no contest if anyone wants or needs the novel check past threads
why do you keep pointing out wack shit that nas put out but wont dare to point out the garbage songs jay put out? why do you keep repeating the things jay said about nas?
thats where your getting it twisted i could point out wack jay-z songs but thats not what im doing with nas im pointing out wack albums, nas has 2 damn near classic albums and the rest are nothing ( 5 good songs does not make an album ) jay has a couple wack songs on each album but each album is great, nas ALBUMS ARE WEAK not a couple of weak songs he has weak albums that the difference.
So the problem is that nas has not put out anything near illmatic but who has? name some albums since illmatic that are remotely close to it( getting ready to laugh)
you really want me to go back in time and tell you every album i like better than illmatic ( i mean illmatic is classic but if you want me to go through the time since that album came out and find albums i think are better then we are gonna be here a long ass time cause i could name awhole lot of albums better than illmatic, seriously i could go on for quite a while i mean give me reasonable doubt ready to die all eye on me makevelli, black album, i got next moment of truth, stakes is high, liquid swords, ironman, do i really need to keep going cause i swear i could go all day
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:26 pm
Ok I see that landlord and reggae see the double standard who else?
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pm
There is definitely a double standard, and please believe there is some Jay that you can just fast forward, like a couple that have been mentioned in this blog. I forgot who said but if Nas puts some of those songs from the lost tapes or the unreleased joints on certain albums then we would probably have a couple of better albums, you cant just dismiss those type of songs just because they arent on some albums he still made them and you have to give Nas his just due.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pm
bigumms would tell you that buddens is better thas nas
to me jay z ‘s voice is to nasal and annoying for him to be the
best emcee plus dmx killed him in that movie and even the muslim
brother was better than him
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm
…while the darts were sharp as ever, production on I AM was average at best…no problems with Stillmatic though…if any Nas album deserves the coaster treatment, it’s Godson…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:33 pm
lol, you are trying really really hard, those are good albums but not near illmatic. Take the black album off that list. You say you like nas, but wont even put illmatic as obvious top 5? Thats treason. ready to die, definitely not. like I said I was getting ready to laugh. I did. ROFL
vol3 – jay has more than a couple of wack songs on there
blue 2- more than a couple of wack songs
The argument is not whether jay had better albums its, How can you say stillmatic and I am are trash. I was written was not a classic. Who says
that?
Lol, I knew you would say takeover. Again ether was the better record, even the biggest jay-z dick rider funk flex had to admit that.
Ether was the better record.
Like I said its obvious its oh so obvious.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pm
but nas has one classic album in illmatic
and jigga has two with reasonable doubt and the black album
but they both should have more than that
every krsone public enemy ultra kool keith album is classic
even epmd have atleast three classics
so both these niggas is slacking
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:35 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:27 pm
but ty doesnt jay brag about his shit?
yes he does but ask a nas fan why he hates jay and he will tell you cause of shit like that, jay and nas are different mc’s that talk about different things but jay is jay all day the same person nas will blast someone for doing commercial songs then come back with shorty owe you for ice
( believe me he has done more bs commercial joints than just that but come on now thats easily the most fun to play with ) b-o-o-s-i-e- again i was responding to dudes who said ” dont say my cras topless/ say the tities is out ” are lines like that the reason you like nas? thats all i was saying there. anyone on here remeber during the nas jay beef remeber when the roots did the unplugged for jay and then the next day nas went on the radio blasting the roots saying they sold out calling black thought a fraud and all this shit ( black though wasnt even there ) no one rembers black though and him argueing over the phone on hot 97 ? no one rember black thought clapping back ” you and your back to africa bullshit fuck you you liar where you at now? wanna know where im at im in africa right now where you at? you always talking about motherland this motherland that how come you aint never been there? black thought aired dude out i guess im the only one who remebers ( wait didnt nas just do a shop with them too ) listen i realize everyone contridcts themselves from time to time but he is the worst and he is so out there with his comments its crazy. nas isnt comfortable with who he is thats what you people dont get you think he is just being his own self but really you can tell he is searching he is lost and is all over the place, and i dont care if you sing or do r&b records just dont critize people for it then go do it ( thats what nas did thats what 50 and thats why motherfuckers get sick of them both ) but again with nas his music just hasnt been good enough ( AGAIN THE LAST NAS ALBUM I WAS HAPPY WITH , THE LAST ONE TO STAY IN MY CD PLAYER FOR MORE THAN A DAY OR 2 WAS IT WAS WRITTEN AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THATS HOW I BASE MY FEELINGS ON AN ALBUM IS HOW LONG IT STAYS IN THE PLAYER
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:35 pm
…Nas > MC than HOV…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:36 pm
…Hov > rapper than Nas…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:37 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pm
IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE THEIR IS A DOUBLE STANDARD HERE. I’M GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
I LIKE JAY AND NAS BOTH BUT THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS SHOWING LIKE SOME TIRE MARKS IN YO DIRTY DRAWS, THROUGH SOME OF YOU.
NO ITS NOT. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS JAY-Z PUTS OUT GREAT ALBUMS WITH A COUPLE OF GARBAGE SONGS ON IT, NAS PUTS OUT GARBAGE ALBUMS WITH A COUPLE GREAT SONGS ON IT THATS WHAT WE ARE SAYING AND GO SONG FOR SONG WITH EACH ALBUM AND HONESTLY TRY AND TELL ME OTHERWISE
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pm
biggums killer,
i think the muslim dude had the better verse out of all three of them. X had that hot line razor throught your windpipe. Jay-z merked it but, they only came halfway through his rhyme, plus that nigga was telling a story.
Ok,
kheri wes- sees the db standard
reg-sees the db stand
land-sees the db stand
anyone one else??
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pm
*just came back from piff mission*
to me jay-z voice is to nasal and annoying for him to be the best emcee
^ kill yourself
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pm
but i think if nas had realeased that lost tapwes shit as a real album he would have more classics
and biggums needs to admit that everybody believed that ether was the winner if you lived in new york nigga you know ether was the winner
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 pm
kill your own self
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pm
@eskay, its called balance, most artist dont have it, and dont care about their influence over the youth, that line is just pure nigga braggadocio, that pull your yankee cap down type shit, its what real niggas want to hear..but there is another side “I know I canâ€
YOU KEEP TALKING BOUT THAT CONSCIOUS SHIT, BUT JUST CAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HIM DONT MEAN THAT HE NICE. JAY IS JAY NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ANYTHING MORE NAS CLAIMS TO BE A REVOLUTIONARY BUT COME ON HE IS CLEARLY LOST
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pm
No one is questioning that nas has fell off, but come on guys there could never be another illmatic, never another reasonable doubt.
Ty biggums is the ONLY one to say I am and Stillmatic are just plain TRASH.
If you say “I dont like stillmatic and I am cause it doesnt compare to illmaticâ€, then its understandable. But to say they are just completely trash obviously shows your biasness.
NO IT SHOWS THAT NONE OF THOSE ALBUMS HAVE MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS ON IT AND IF IT DOESNT HAVE MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS ITS FRISBEE MATERIAL ( SORRY IM PICK ABOUT MY HIP-HOP ) AND AGAIN IM NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING THIS SHIT SO STOP SAYING I AM
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:43 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Name one song Jay ever made, promoting peace, or encouraging the youth.
SO THAT MAKES NAS THE BETTER RAPPER? REALLY ??? AND DO YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC OR JUST SKIM THROUGH IT???
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:44 pm
BANANA’S!!!!
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:44 pm
*Wakes up from nap*
*Sees people are still arguing about Nas*
*Rolls over and goes back to sleep*
Zzzzzzzzzzzz……………
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:45 pm
but biggums,
you keep pointing out that nas had wack songs because of how he contradicts himself. You are not arguing the case, you only keep talking about nas and his flaws that doesnt deal with the music.
what does the black thought fued have to do with stillmatic and I am?
you are bringing irrelevant evidence to the case.
Can’t you guys see the irrelevant evidence that biggums is presenting? you went off on a tangent.
How is the titties is out a wack line? Who thinks that is wack? If jay said it, you would be ooohing and aahing.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:46 pm
He did release it as a album just like from illmatic to stillmatic he tried to get outta his contract with columbia which he signed a 10 album contract which is considerd modern day slavery.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:46 pm
that muslim cat had the best verse and its to bad a brother like that cant get a deal out of sonning the two emcees who were the hottest at that time but ….it is what it is
getting back to joe camel toe 88 ive never liked jiggas voice
not when he was jaz o ‘s hype man
not when he was rhyming all spiggety iggety with original flavour
i did kinda like him during his in my life tyme reasonable dougt phase but his voice and that sunshine shit killed it for me
plus i only listened to wu-tang kool keith radiohead during his era
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pm
theres more than 5 good songs on I am and stillmatic.
everyone on here can attest to that, you are the only who thinks that.
No one on here has came to your defense? why? cause your argument is all based on emotion and how nas lived his life.
plus hov> nas
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pm
The tittie line is pure garbage. I laughed so hard when he said that but the whole song is tight
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pm
I think people think that line is garbage cause they hear it from a conscious dude called nas.
If jay or kiss said I guarantee niggas would be repeating that shit.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pm
nas ripping him and 50 killing ja brought me back to hip hop
i really felt the whole dmx jigga ja rule eminem era was corny
but outkast was holding it down 2000-2003
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pm
I kinda feel you biggums killer
but a lot of people didn’t care for jay till he dropped the blueprint, then niggas started paying attention to him. They thought he was just pure floss, but they never paid attention to his albums just his singles. That eminem shit was kind of corny too, but he did have some good songs. Dmx just turned wack after crack. I see where you coming from, cause I know a lot of people who felt like that.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pm
and since when is dont say my car is topless say the titties is out a wack line??? i hate how if you dont like an emcee everything he says is wack up and down the line.. thats not critisism thats just hate
but look who niggas is talking to: esgay@biggumsass.com
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Nas ripped jay? GTFOH im not even gonna go there. kill yourself
If kiss or jay said it i guarantee niggas would be repeating that shit
^ wrong the line was wack. is the only reason you like it cause nas said it?
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:58 pm
jay z only got his spot when pac and biggie died and badboy was falling off dont get me wrong when jigga was that dude he ruled both the streets and the clubs i know because i used to sit down everytime they played jigga or ja rule and they played that shit alot
i was feeling noreaga back then thou…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:58 pm
who said they didnt like nas?
*currently listen to I am*
*the autobiography*
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:59 pm
I understand if you dont like an mc, cause I dont really care for ludacris or papoose, or busta rhymes, wasn’t that much of a biggie fan or a pac fan, but I’m not going to say that they put out wack music, just because of a certain lifestyle they lived. Neither If I dont like their style or the music they put out, but I’ll give credit where credit is due.
If I dont like someone personally Im not going to say they are wack. if its good its good
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:00 pm
*Wakes up again*
*Sees people are still talking about Nas*
*Gets mad*
WTF ARE Y’ALL ARGUING ABOUT???? WHICH NAS ALBUM IS THE WORST!?!?!!??
STREETS DISCIPLE. END OF CONVERSATION.
AND YES THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD, BECAUSE PEOPLE EXPECT MORE FROM NAS.
*Calms down*
*Leaves Nah Right alltogehter*
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:01 pm
you cant tell me the majority of new york didnt think nas ripped jigga
okay joe camel toe??? i live in brooklyn and niggas was not feeling that super ugly shit the battle was over after ether
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:02 pm
joe 88,
that was a hot line, if kiss or jay said it, I would be like damn thats hot. Just like when kiss said when it come to beef he dont wanna do nothing bu cook. that was fire.
Like I said I like jay and kiss better than nas, but my sole point was how can you say stillmatic and I am are trash? thats like saying the blueprint and the black album is trash.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:04 pm
yeah he killed it on ether. even jigga fans admit that.
ok thats 4 people who see the double standard. Sorry E BK, your boy biggums is making an argument based on emotions and his sentiments toward nas.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:04 pm
that being said nas beating jigga didnt hurt jays album sales
and it didnt help nas sell records which is why them brothers had to get together
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:09 pm
remember im not a nas or jigga fan
nas has done everything in his power to fuck up his own career
and even thou jigga is not on my radar i can admit hes having a pretty good life
it is what it is just becoz you dont like someones music doesnt mean you need to be killing them 24/7 that shit is beat
how can niggas spend more time talking about rappers they dont like
than the ones they do???
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:14 pm
first i never said stillmatic was trash i said it was sub par. second i did say that i am was trash, my reason just go up to the earlier comments when i put the track list for i am & i am the autobiography. after reading that you’ll see why i said what i said
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:26 pm
Doc Flav Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:53 pm
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm
“but dont say the cars topless, say the titties is outâ€
hip hop at its best,
Damn you beat me to that quote, Nas is that crack, Hovs content will never match dude because dude is way too deep, Hov know about Nas and is a fan of dude, you dont “partner†with lackluster emcees thats illogical, Ty dissin Illmatic? “REDBALLS, Its cocaine in a can baby!†Just sip that homie dont guzzle it. LOL
FIRST OFF WHEN DID I DISS ILLMATIC? SECOND HOW IS HIM COMPARING A CONVERTIBLE TO TITTIES SUCH AN ILL LINE? THIS IS NAS THE POET YOU GUYS ARE COMING AT ME SIDEWAYS FOR SYING IM DISREPECTING NAS BUT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THIS IS AMONG HIS BEST LINES IF YOU ASK ME THAT LINE IS THE EXACT OPPISITE OF WHAT I LOVE ABOUT NAS WHEN HE IS MAKING GOOD MUSIC
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:28 pm
Joe 88 Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 pm
Ochiee wally really motivated the kids to get there phd’s
PARDON ME I HAD TO LAUGH AT THAT.
AND DAMN IM STILL MAD LATE IN THIS ARGUEMENT AND YOU GUYS STILL CANT GRASP WHAT IM SAYING NO WONDER YOU LIKE NAS SO MUCH, YOU CANT UNDERSTAND LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE. EVERYTHING I READ THAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ME IVE ALREADY ANSWERED AND YOU GUYS CONTRIDCT YOURSELVES WITH EVERY OTHER COMMENT AGAIN I SEE THE PARRELLA BETWEEN YOU GUYS AND NAS
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:33 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Sorry ty biggums,
I really think you are the only one who thinks 2nd childhood is nothing special. Your dislike for nas is obvious. No on here is agreeing with you. No one. Most people on here are real fans of real hip hop.
I just dont respect your bias. You say that nas is talking about ice with a coofie on, so is that not allowed. Is someone automatically trash cause they wear a coofie and talk about ICE? But if you wear ice and airforce one’s and talk about it then its tight?
Rakim–mentioned ice
krs one–mentioned ice
guru–mentioned ice
ice cube-mentioned ice
ll cool j-mentioned ice and women a lot
tupac-mentioned ice
ghost-mentions ice(and wears wild jewlery)
Big-mentions ice
Pun-mentions ice
all these rappers have rapped about ICE but somehow nas can’t
Do you people see the double standard here.
DO YOU READ POSTS OR JUST SKIIM THROUGH THEM?
SEE MY POST TALKING ABOUT NAS SLAMMING PEOPLE FOR BEING COMMERCIAL, READ THE POST ABOUT NAS SLAMMING THE ROOTS, I COULD CARELESS WHAT YOU RAP ABOUT DO YOU, ITS ALL GOOD JUST DONT TELL PEOPLE NOT TO RAP ABOUT DIAMONDS MONEY AND BITCHES NOT TO SING R&B SHIT AND THEN TURN AROUND AND DO IT THAT I CAN NOT EXPECT.
OK SO I WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD WITH 2ND CHILDHOOD BUT THE SONG STILL DOESNT MAKE UP FOR THE REST OF THE ALBUM ( AGAIN STOP SAYING IM BIASED CAUSE I WISH TO DEATH NAS WOULD COME WITH THAT OLD HEAT BUT IM REALISTIC AND I CAN CLEARLY SEE HE ISNT THE SAME. HE CAME IN ON FIRE AS A ROOKIE AN ALL STAR BUT DUDE HAS FADED OUT SURE STILL A SOLID ROLE PLAYER BUT HE CANT CARRY A TEAM ANYMORE AND HASNT BEEN ABLE TO FOR YEARS
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:48 pm
B-o-o-s-i-e fresh cuts shining them up, new whips on 24’s, I’m bout to hop on them hoes, yeah they want a nigga they be on nigga, they wanna take lil boosie home and act a donkey wit em Says: Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:12 pm
Can people see the case that I am making for the double standard.
I have consistently poked holes in others case about how I am and stillmatic were trash.
If those two albums were trash. I definitely want to know what’s mediocre!!!!
ty what’s mediocre, I want to know???
DAMN YOU REALLY ARE SLOW.
ILLMATIC IT WAS WRITTEN DAMN NEAR PERFECT CLASSICS.
EVERYTHING ELSE SUB PAR, STILLMATIC IS PRETTY DAMN BAD AGAIN YOU NNED MORE THAN 5 SONGS TO MAKE A DECENT ALBUM, THATS WHY I DONT CLAIM JADA’S ALBUMS TO BE NICE CAUSE THEY ARENT BUT JADA IS ONE OF THE NICEST ALIVE, BUT HIS ALBUMS ARE MEDICORE AT BEST. AND FOR NAS TO MAKE A MEDICORE ALBUM ITS TRASH GOD DAMN HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO SAY THIS. I AM IS A DECENT ALBUM ILL GIVE IT THAT STILLMATIC BELOW DECENT, NASTRADAMUS, STREET DISCIPLES GOD’S SON THOSE WERE TRASH,
NOW YOU WANNA TALK DOUBLE STANDARDS HOW COME ITS NOT OK TO CALL I AM OR STILLMATIC TRASH BUT SOMEONE A) COMPARED THE BLACK ALBUM TO NASTRADAMUS I MEAN COME ON, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I HEARD PEOPLE CALL BLUEPRINT TRASH ( HOW MANY TIMES WAS JUST CAUSE KRS ALREADY MADE AN ALBUM CALLED BLUEPRINT ) TAKE YOUR PICK OF THE HARD KNOCK LIFE VOL.’S IM ALWAYS HEARING HOW WACK THOSE ALBUMS WERE AND EVERYONE OF THEM IS BETTER THAN I AM OR STILLMATIC SORRY FACE THE FACTS ITS THE TRUTH
ALSO DONT SAY IM BIASED AGAIN CAUSE I WILL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME I USED TO HATE JAY-Z AND I NAS WAS AMONG MY TOP 3 ( GRANTED ALOT OF MY HATE AND ANGER COMES FROM ME KNOWING AND ACCEPTING SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE NOT JUST NAS STANS HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVEING AND ACCEPTING AND THATS THAT IT WAS WRITTEN BY CORMEGA, THE MAJORITY WAS IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY NAS HE DID THE SAME THING TO MEGA WITH IT WAS WRITTEN HE DID WITH QUAN HE LIKED IT HE TOOK IT AND HE PROMISED TO HELP LOOK HIM OUT LATE WHICH WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, AND YES I CANT LIE JUST LIKE WHEN I WAS 12 OR 13 AND I FIRST FOUND OUT DRE DIDNT WRITE HIS RYHMES I LOST RESPECT FOR HIM IMMEDIATLY DOES THAT TAKE AWAY FROM HIS PRODUCTION ? NO OF COURSE NOT BUT I LOST RESPECT FOR HIM I JUST CANT RESPECT RAPPING ANOTHER GUYS VERSE AS YOUR OWN, AND ILL WILL NOT SAY NAS DOESNT WRITE HIS OWN SHIT, HE WROTE ILLMATIC HE WROTE EVERYTHING ELSE BUT IT IS FACT THAT MEGA WROTE MOST OF IT WAS WRITTEN )
I ALSO ALWAYS NAME NAS IN MY TOP 10 ALWAYS BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE GETS A PASS FOR HIS SUB PAR MUSIC
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Kheri Wes Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pm
There is definitely a double standard, and please believe there is some Jay that you can just fast forward, like a couple that have been mentioned in this blog. I forgot who said but if Nas puts some of those songs from the lost tapes or the unreleased joints on certain albums then we would probably have a couple of better albums, you cant just dismiss those type of songs just because they arent on some albums he still made them and you have to give Nas his just due.
see thats just it though. i do give nas his due i still say he is among the best, notice i never mention lost tapes among his wack albums why ? cause lost tapes was his 3rd best album, yes it was better than i am and stillmatic, i like some new nas, honeymoon is over, across the tracks with pap, we major, mc burial but that doesnt take away from how on a whole i am was sub par stillmatic was next to trash, doesnt mean nas isnt among the best just means those album werent, shit even micheal jordan had some bad games.
you guys want an analogy i dont know how many of you follow baseball or the yankees but lets put it this way. in baseball a-rod is generally thought of as the best all around baseball player, now he is hated by many yakee fans ( i like him but have to get into this with my fellow yankke fans all the time ) they all say dude has 252 million contract best player in the game having an MVP year wasnt good enough cause he choked in the playoffs, he couldnt come through in the cluth, nas is a great talent one of the best but when it comes time to put together an album he chokes does that take away from his talent ? no just means he had a bad game like nas had a bad album
biggumskiller Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pm
bigumms would tell you that buddens is better thas nas
to me jay z ’s voice is to nasal and annoying for him to be the
best emcee plus dmx killed him in that movie and even the muslim
brother was better than him
i am more anticipating the buddens album that nas’s but that me so what, would i say he is a better all time mc ? no thats like comparing lebron to mafic or jordan he has many more years left to prove himself but im waiting to see it unfold.
see i hear people talk about jay’s the best cause of his voice and im with you on this my killer cause i dont think its his voice thats so crazy i think its his flow lyrics and swagger thats so crazy and thats what makes people love and identify with his voice, but now dmx killed who in what movie?
i think you mean he killed nas in belly cause jay was never in a movie other than a 2 minute apperance in state property, but dmx is a worse actor than ja. nas was the better actor in the movie but thats not saying shit.
* ok my piff mission got delayed last time thats why i got back so quick im going on it now ill try and handle some of you fools from the treo but damn this will take a minute ill be back *
hi haters
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:06 pm
>>Ochiee wally really motivated the kids to get there phd’s
^ lmao
I know personally, my big problem with Nas is his inconsistency. I think there’s probably somewhat of a double standard but I think it’s so small it’s hardly even worth mentioning. Nas doesn’t lose a whole lot of points for the questionable content, he loses for making mediocre songs and sub par albums. Jay can talk about ice and get away with it, Nas can’t. but Jay also talks about ice better than Nas does.
Nas’s content has always been deeper than Jay’s but at the end of the day content alone doesn’t make you the better M.C. That said, even though I’m a much bigger Jay fan, I would hate to ever have to seriously answer the question: Who’s the better of the two?
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:07 pm
BTW – sorry I interrupted your novel Biggums
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:17 pm
IS HORRIBLE ABSOLUTLY AWFUL AND I AM DOESNT HAVE MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS ON IT, ILLMATIC, IT WAS WRITTEN AND THATS IT PLEASE STOP SPREADING THIS MYTH THAT HE LIVED UP TO HIS POTENTIAL AND TALENT WITH THOSE ALBUMS. SEE THE PROBLEM IS YOU PEOPLE SAY YOU FEEL THAT WAY SO NAS DOESNT FEEL I didnt read this correctly I htought you included Illmatic with your I Am And Stillmatic critique, Thats my fuckup, Sorry. SEE THE PROBLEM IS YOU PEOPLE SAY YOU FEEL THAT WAY SO NAS DOESNT FEEL THE NEED TO REALLY COME HARD AND BRING BACK SOME ILLMATIC TYPE SHIT, I can understand that opinion, but I could wish for another Reasonable Doubt, but I dont think Jay could ever touch that on his best day nowadays.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:19 pm
Fuck Nas(milkshake boy)he better hope he can cross over and dont come out with Mobb Deep numbers(100,000 first week) becuzz he still hasent proven these past years to make a hit. Without a true radio hit or some type of media buzz your looking at a average album once again(flop in def jam standards).And forget about trying to compare Nas to Jay-Z becuzz thats like comparing Batman to Robin he is good but dont got the leadership(plus millions) to stand as the king of New York.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:21 pm
By the way the topless line is far from the best Nas line, I just though it was slick. Im with Joe 88 on the fact that the bootleg I am was better than the album version, Blaze A 50 remains a classic Nas song to me.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:27 pm
“reasonable doubt = illmatic
bluprint= I am
stillmatic=blueprint 2
black album= nastradamus
streets dicsiple=the dynasty”
Oh man, damn this hurts me as a hip-hop fan. Okay, I’ll take Reasonable Doubt as the level as Illmatic, but to say I Am is as good as Blueprint. Comon. Nastradamus is equal to The Black Album. What the fuck? If you dis the Black Album, then you haven’t listen to it. It is like a greatest hits but with completely new material. It has all of Jay’s greatest producers (Timbaland, Kanye, Neptunes), and it has all of his different styles. It is also an extremely personal album, which is defintely something that stands itself apart from the rest on the hip-hop aisle at Best Buy. To top it off, the skits don’t actually fuck up the album’s flow, which is amazing. Look at it like this:
“Threat” and “Justify My Thug” would be top tracks on Reasonable Doubt.
“Dirt Off Your Shoulders”
“What More Can I Say”, “Encore” – these two would have fit in perfectly on the Blueprint.
“Change Clothes” – I know you people love to hate this one, but you can not deny the incredible flow of HOV on this one. No matter how you feel about the content.
“Moment of Clarity” is one of the top introspective songs all time. Nobody, not even Nas following the Takeover, comes close to criticising and analyzing Jay-Z as well as Sean Carter.
“99 Problems”, “Lucifer”, and “Allure” were all great songs that took Jay-Z into new territory. Fuck, I thought “Allure” would be more at place on a N.E.R.D. album.
What more do you want from a final album? It has all facets of Jay-Z, all producers present, and expands on that. Eskay, it may be early for you to say this one is a classic, but I’m calling it here right now. Black Album is a classic, and in 20 years we are going to look back, and see why Jay-Z never released another album, he already did the perfect farewell album. And I consider Nas an easy top ten all time, but to compare fucking Nastradamus to the Black Album is a god damn insult to the industry.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Streets Disciple could have went without about 50% of its songs and would have been a great album. I really was disappointed after all that long wait. Eskay the problem is some cats dont want that food for thought, I want to be able to listen to an album three years later and pick up a message that I missed, even though I listened to the album daily back then. Jay husler narratives remain fire but damn its like E 40 said in Rappers Ball “why cant we be broke sometimes…”
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:43 pm
my killer – where are you from. just cause nas won a vote of which song was better ( ether or superugly the vote wasn’t with takeover or bp2 ) on hot 97 on hot 97 your gonna let that decide it. ? now in all honesty from every where I was at during that time ( ny nj philly and d.c. I’d say it was crazy close in peoples opinion. for ever nas vote you’d get a jay vote. but I don’t think it was even close sure if you base it solely off superugly but not the other 2 and I’ve said it before if the shit was on smack dvd street corner style acapella and you matched up stillmatic vs. superugly ether vs. takeover and bp2 vs. the other nas diss match them up bar for bar no beats no nothing see who takes it i’m sorry jay hits harder more truthful more hurtful nas’s were to generic for the most part atleast for my liking.
this here closes another novel by everyones most hated/loved poster. the boy biggums posting in mid piff mission.
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:37 pm
eskay Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:07 pm
BTW – sorry I interrupted your novel Biggums
its all good eskay you know that and shit you couldnt post without it today i wrote abour 50 of them bitches today * whispers novels that is *
Doc Flav Says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:17 pm
IS HORRIBLE ABSOLUTLY AWFUL AND I AM DOESNT HAVE MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS ON IT, ILLMATIC, IT WAS WRITTEN AND THATS IT PLEASE STOP SPREADING THIS MYTH THAT HE LIVED UP TO HIS POTENTIAL AND TALENT WITH THOSE ALBUMS. SEE THE PROBLEM IS YOU PEOPLE SAY YOU FEEL THAT WAY SO NAS DOESNT FEEL I didnt read this correctly I htought you included Illmatic with your I Am And Stillmatic critique, Thats my fuckup, Sorry. SEE THE PROBLEM IS YOU PEOPLE SAY YOU FEEL THAT WAY SO NAS DOESNT FEEL THE NEED TO REALLY COME HARD AND BRING BACK SOME ILLMATIC TYPE SHIT, I can understand that opinion, but I could wish for another Reasonable Doubt, but I dont think Jay could ever touch that on his best day nowadays.
see i agree up to the last black album really aint that far off from reasonable doubt and i was gonna go into further explanation but i see someone already did that for me so go check fronts post
May 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 pm
>>How is the titties is out a wack line? Who thinks that is wack? If jay said it, you would be ooohing and aahing.
i think this line is better than “linen shorts so my balls dont get hot”.
>>HE CAME IN ON FIRE AS A ROOKIE AN ALL STAR BUT DUDE HAS FADED OUT SURE STILL A SOLID ROLE PLAYER BUT HE CANT CARRY A TEAM ANYMORE AND HASNT BEEN ABLE TO FOR YEARS
wait, are u talkin about NaS or Jay, cuz i could swear that statement refers to “Sir Hova” himself.
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:52 pm
ill change you are fucling crazy blacck album is better than nas’s whole catalog yeah there I said it. check front’s post abot black album go burn it ( cause your an obvious jay hater and obviously haven’t really listend to jay ) from someone you know who knows atleast something about rap.
and the nas titties line isn’t a wack line just a horrible line to use as an example of how nas is ill. theres god knows how many nas lines I can quote that fit him more and are much iller. I don’t something like
‘ lifes a bitch but god forbid the bitch divorce me ‘
o wait my bad we should all know who IT WAS WRITTEN by
but seriously If you wanna talk nas you can get much better than the titties line I just said that is not example of how he is crack and honestly I feel like that’s giving him more credit than the fool that said that’s why he’s crack
May 23rd, 2006 at 8:43 am
so neccessary
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:24 am
Nas has long been famed for his creativity and storytelling prowess, which has earned him acclaim from both the hip-hop community and critics. In his early stages, from his first appearance on the Main Source’s Breaking Atoms and throughout the recording of Illmatic, he was perhaps best known for assasinating Jay-z lyrically. His street-oriented topics, complex lyrical schemes (which often incorporated multi-syllabic internal rhymes), and witty phrasing and imagery. As he progressed and matured, Nas began to branch out into different subjects and developed a richer voice and slower rapping technique.
Following Illmatic’s release, Nas developed a penchant for hyper-visual storytelling and topical creativity. For instance, “Undying Love” (featured on I Am…) is a tale of his wife’s betrayal told in first person, “Rewind” (featured on Stillmatic) is a narrative in which a story is recited backwards, while on “I Gave You Power” (featured on It Was Written), Nas assumes the role of a gun who recounts brutal tales of murder and violence, however his nemesis Jay-z is cashing in big following the cooperate stuctured well oiled machine to increase record sales, and takes a back seat to his artistry. Over the years Nas’ style has changed significantly. In contrast to his previous work, Nas’ most recent material is (distinctively socially aware) unlike most other rap artist, he sacrifices record sales, and in place pushes the line of morality and responsibility. Jay-z has openly admitted to being a fan of Nas since the begining of Nas’s career and when asked what made him want to sign Nas, responded ” if you cant beat them join them.
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:35 am
^^^ your just being dumb now. first off ever hear meet the parents by jay ever hear a song like that believe it thats an iller story than any nas song. I GAVE YOU POWER is what corrmega says to NAS cause mega wrote that song you dumbasss if you read any of my threads or knew about nas and mega you would know that too.
and i cant stop laughing at je was perhaps best known for assasinating jay-z lyrically ? really did it slow jay down at all? who is weidely recognized as the best living mc – yea jay-z not nas give me a break what in any of those songs nas did actually really hurt jay and got at him, the only truthful thing was camel joe and to that he says so the fuck what im still better than you and still piped your baby mama and you focusing on calling me ugly infatuated with my lips saying that gay shit.
post up bar for bar the 3 disses verus each other count the hard hits and knowledge how hov really tears his ass apart in 567 different ways
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:41 am
I’m a Nas and Jay fan but I agree more with coldplayReggaetonslasher statement
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:01 am
dbrown – how can you go bar for bar with those 6 diss tracks and honestly say nas got him ? someone explain to me what he said about jay that was so ill, so hard hitting ? what motherfuckers ? camel joe so what, why you talking about another man’s looks, ooo he took some shit from biggie ( a) who didnt b) what biggie lines has jay spit that people didnt know were biggie lines when he first aid it c) yea nas has never bitten anyone else ever right ? seriously someone tell me what nas really said that hurt jay just give me like 5 solid hard hitting serious lines nas said about him ? meanwhile you go through jay’s songs and i could go on forever mentioning how he factually tore nas apart
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:09 am
to say a man has dick sucking lips is gay. is it me or the only reason nas said em ripped jay on his own shit is because jay said horse had the best verse on oochie wally?
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:12 am
im not even sure how this turned into a jay vs. nas arguement all i know is dude came in saying he listened to nas all weekend and says its not even questionable that nas is the best ever, all i said was thats bullshit and said dude has 2 good cd’s everything else is sub par he cant be the best and then dudes turned it into a jay vs. nas thread but you cats in the burbs can say what you want i know the how the streets of ny nj philly d.c. felt about the shit, that get over the hot 97 vote ( isnt funny for the vote they used nas strongest diss against jay’s weakest and it was still mad close now imagine if they matched up ether vs. bp2 or takeovers 1 verse about nas )
dont believe the hype nas is like 2 good albums and a bunch of sub par shit, sorry compare disss tracks compare album for album song for song and you’ll see nas’s catalog cant even compare to hov’s its not even close,
nas has never lived up to his potential jay has. THE END
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:18 am
JOE – YEA THAT SHIT WAS BULLSHIT ASS LINE, FIRST OFF DUDES WANNA TALK ABOUT GETTING KILLED ON YOUR OWN SHIT TALK ABOUT THE JOINTS WHERE MEGA NATURE HORSE SCARFACE OR ANYONE ELSE MURDERED NAS ON A TRACK, BUT JAY HAS 2 ILL VERSES THAT JUST ARENT QUITE AS ILL AS EM VERSES BUT A) THOSE WERE 2 OF EM’S BEST VERSES B) WHO DOESNT GET KILLED BY EM C) ID RATHER GET KILLED ON MY OWN SHIT BY EM THEN BY MY FUCKING BODYGUARD SERIOUSLY HOW AND WHY IS EM HAVING SLIGHTY BETTER VERSES THAT BIG A DEAL ( NAS ADMITS HE IS A HUGE EM STAN ) PEOPLE ACT LIKE JAY DIDNT KILL HIS VERSES TOO.
“say that I’m foolish I only talk about jewels
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I’m influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin, I made somethin doin
what I do through and through and
I give you the news – with a twist it’s just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring ’em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies niggaz crotched over
Mommy’s knocked up cause she wasn’t watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he’s not around – now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I bring it through the ghetto without ridin ’round
hidin down duckin strays from frustrated youths stuck in they ways
Just read a magazine that fucked up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothin relate to it?
I help them see they way through it – not you
Can’t step in my pants, can’t walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and your shirt”
“I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Gotta vent, lot of innocent of lives lost on the project bench
Whatchu hollerin? Gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feelin braver
Doo-rag wrappin my waves up, pockets full of hope
Do not step to me – I’m awkward, I box lefty often
My pops left me an orphan, my momma wasn’t home
Could not stress to me I wasn’t grown; ‘specially on nights
I brought somethin home to quiet the stomach rumblings
My demeanor – thirty years my senior
My childhood didn’t mean much, only raisin green up
Raisin my fingers to critics; raisin my head to the sky
Big I did it – multi before I die
No lie, just know I chose my own fate
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight”
STOP ACTING LIKE HE SPIT GARBAGE ON THAT TRACK
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:23 am
Ty is nas now garbage to you?
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:27 am
I like jay verse better than em. my reason is i like music that i can relate to & i can relate to jay verse more that’s just my opinion
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:43 am
DBROWN READ SOME OF MY POSTS FROM YESTERDAY.NO I DONT THINK NAS IS GARBAGE NEVER HAVE BUT I DO THINK EVERY ALBUM HE HAS PUT OUT SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN WAS SUB PAR, I REALLY FUCK WITH SOME OF HIS SHIT BUT OVERALL HIS ALBUMS HAVENT LIVED UP TO EXPECTATIONS MEANWHILE I HAVE NEVER NOT BEEN SATIFIED WITH A JAY-Z ALBUM I HAVE BOUGHT AND BEEN GREATLY DISAPPOINTED WITH EVERY NAS ALBUM THAT CAME OUT AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN. AGAIN I WILL SAY I USED TO HATE JAY BEFORE I WAS FORCED TO LISTEN AND KNOWLEDGE HIM AND I MY LOVE FOR NAS MUSIC REALLY STARTED TO FALL AFTER NASTRADAMUS THATS WHEN I STARTED TO GIVE UP ON DUDE. I STILL LIST NAS AS TOP 10 EVER BUT HE CANT BE IN THE TOP 5 SIMPLY CAUSE HE ONLY HAS 2 ABOVE AVG. ALBUMS I AM IS A DECENT ALBUM I WAS EXAGERATTING YESTERDAY BUT ITS AVERAGE AT BEST, NAS I DONT BELIEVE YOU I NEED MORE HEAT, NOW AGAIN ILL SAY HONEYMOON IS OVER, MC BURIAL ACROSS THE TRACKS ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES I LIKE ALOT OF THE SHIT HE HAS COME OUT WITH LATELY BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS I HAVENT BEEN HAPPY WITH A NAS PURCHASE SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN AND ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY WERE SATISFIED IS EITHER IN DENIAL OR DOESNT KNOW HIP-HOP AND THINK THAT LINES LIKE
” DONT SAY THE CRA IS TOPLESS/SAY TH ETITTIES IS OUT ”
IS A PERFCT EXAMPLE OF WHY NAS IS CRACK, I THINK SAYING THAT IS AN INSULT TO NAS PERSONALLY
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:44 am
SORRY THE QUOTE IS OBVIOUSLY ” DONT SAY THE CARS TOPLESS/ SAY THE TITTIES IS OUT “
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:47 am
hey ty, instead of going line for line, i’ll just say this, Jay-z proclaimed how wack Nas is and has been, and that was his only leg to stand on during their so called rivalry…but wehn he signed Nas this is what he said without saying it verbally
“I always been a fan of Nas. I got mad at Nas when he didnt want to fuck with me musically, so the kinda snake nigga I am, i went after his baby mamma, and I know I broke a code in doing that, but thats the kinda of nigga I am. After I seen that fucking his baby mamma didnt break the nigga, I began to wonder what planet this niggas from, had it been me, I would of been wallowing in self pityand been destroyed but he (Nas) just summed it up to 2 out of 3 bitches will lead you to their own hidden evil. Moving forward I thought that holding this over his head is one thing but making it public is another, again the Nas stood up to all the forces of antagonism I was throwing and I was almost out of ammo. After Ether thats when I decided its best I make good with this dude, hes not the one or two for that matter hes the Reaper of rappers, death personified over wicked beats poisening his enemies. So I was left with no choice but to align with this alien, and adjust my public hue as to where i’m defeated, but it looks like i’m a savior.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:51 am
Ty I read your posts and I respect your opinion but stillmatic was on par for nas to me he brought back some respect for his name
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:58 am
STILLMATIC WAS BELOW NAS’S AVG. OK SO ITS GOT MORE THAN 5 GOOD SONGS BUT IT IS STILL ABOUT 50/50 HALF FILLER HALF QUALITY SONGS BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE A PAR NAS ALBUM FOR ME, I WAS WAITING FOR NAS TO COME BACK REAL STRONG WITH STILLMATIC AND LIKE I SAID SOME OF THE SONGS I REALLY FUCK WITH BUT FOR THE MOST PART THE CD REALLY LET ME DOWN, HONESTLY WHEN I GOT BLUEPRINT BP2 BLACK ALBUM THEY ALL STAYED IN MY CD PLAYER FOR LIKE A MONTH OR MORE SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN NOT EVEN STILLMATIC STAYED IN FOR A WEEK, AND THATS USUALLY HOW I BASE HOW MUCH IM FEELING A CD
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:00 am
“ill just say this jay-z proclaimed how wack nas nas is and has been”
>isnt that what rap battles supposed to be about how wack another nigga is? ever since rap started thats what rap battles where about (busy bee vs kool mo dee) while nas only leg to stand on was lies & jay-z looks. come on coldplay “dick sucking lips” that’s some gay shit
“but ya’ll by the shit caught up in the hype” – jay-z
& carmen said it out her own mouth that see went after jay to make nas mad what code did jay break they wernt friends buddies nothing at the time just because they both rap don’t mean shit
ether = fairy tales/ takeover = the truth the whole truth & nothing but the truth
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 am
Yo Ty like I said before Im a fan of both of them and I agree it was (stillmatic) 50% filler but bp2 had a few(7) filler tracks too
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:04 am
joe if takeover is all truth why sign nas, read the earlier post. you dont make any sense.
and yea thats my point rap battles are supposed to be about how wack the next nigga is, but again if thats true why sign him.
read my dude its evident that jiggy man was lying about everything he side during the fued.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:06 am
^^^ EXACTLY JOE 88 ESPECIALLY ON THE CARMEN TIP HER AND JAY HAVE BOTH SAID HE DIDNT KNOW SHE WAS EVER WITH NAS UNTIL AFTERWARDS
” YOU GOTTA LOVE THAT IM YOUR BABY MOM’S FAVORITE RAPPER”
AND THE PART ABOUT JAY CRITIQUING NAS’S CAREER THATS WHAT MAKES FOR A REAL DISS TRACK AN EFFFECTIVE ONE ATLEAST.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:10 am
*breaks down digital door lookin for reggaedude*
Theres no way you cant agree with this……
illmatic >juvinile Hell (That the only album that nas outshineed P’s flow)
infamous >or= it was writtin
Hell on earth > I am
Murda music > Nastrodamas
Hnic > Stillmatic
Imfamy = God Son
Americas Nightmare > Street disciples
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:13 am
DBrown11 Says:
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 am
Yo Ty like I said before Im a fan of both of them and I agree it was (stillmatic) 50% filler but bp2 had a few(7) filler tracks too
YEA BUT BP2 WAS A DOUBLE CD WHICH NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO PULL OFF NOT JAY NOT NAS NOT BIG AND NOT PAC ( ALL EYEZ ON ME CLASSIC BUT GOD DAMN DID IT HAVE SOME HORRIBLE SONGS )IF YOU MADE BP2 INTO ONE ALBUM IT WOULD OF BEEN A CLASSIC STILLMATIC HAD 14 SONGS 50/50 AINT ENOUGH ON 14 TRACKS.
COLDPLAY TELL US WHAT EXACTLY JAY LIED ABOUT ? WHO DOESNT FEEL LIKE NAS FELL OFF AFTER I WAS WRITTEN EVERYONE DOES JAY SIGNED HIM BECAUSE LIKE AN ARROGANT COACH HE THINKS HE CAN MOLD NAS INTO WHAT THE OLD NAS HE THINKS HE CAN BRING IT OUT BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE WAS LYTING ABOUT HOW AWFUL NASTRADUMUS WAS IT DOESNT MEAN HE DOESNT THINK HORSE KILLED HIM ON OOCHIE WALLY IT DOESNT MEAN THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE STILL CAUGHT UP IN THE HYPE JUST CAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE’S SAYING DONT MEAN THAT HE NICE,
EVERY PART OF JAY’S TRACKS WERE FACT EVEN HIM FUCKING CARMEN HOW THE FUCK DID JAY LIE
I LOVE IT CAUSE YOU JUST OFFICALLY DEADED THIS ARGUEMENT YOU WAIVED THE WHITE FLAG WITH THAT STATEMENT CAUSE THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE ACTUALLY FEELS THAT WAY WHAT LIES DID JAY TELL?
O YEA HAVE I EXPLAINED HOW THE ROCKERFELLA DIED WELL BEFORE AIDS WAS EVER COOKED UP IN A LAB SO THATS WASNT THE END OF HIS CHAPTER THAT WAS SOME BULLSHIT LIES
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:16 am
“your shit is garbage, what you tryna kick knowledge?”
think about what you said coldplay what better way to embarass your enemy then signing them. first they were beefing now jay cutting nas checks hahahaha sorry i had to laugh at that. i don’t make no sense you just made a whole post on how (you) jay-z supposedly looked at the battle. is that you jungle hiding behind the screen name coldplay? I don’t think jay was lying about what he said about the lil homey look at his track record. if anything nas should be kissing the ground jigga walk on he saved his career if it wasent for the battle there would have been no stillmatic. to my knowledge stillmatic was considered a comeback album to the masses meaning his career was over no one was checking for another nas except you (jungle) coldplay
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:25 am
ty your tactic in swaying oppinions on this site is pretty effective, “CAUSE THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE ACTUALLY FEELS THAT WAY”, how can you say that that is a blantant false statement, and I reject your deposit…not everyone falls for psuedo bullshit lies. Take a breather.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:30 am
^^^ COLDPLAY THEN TELL ME THE LIES JAY-Z SPIT, GIVE ME SOME.
IF NO ONE FEELS THAT WAY HOW COME YOUR THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE EVER HEARD JAY-Z LIED IN HIS RAPS, AND I MEAN EVER IN THE WHOLE TIME IVE EVER HAD THIS DEBATE NO ONE HAS EVER ACCUSED JAY OF LYING BUT YOU, SO PROVE YOURSELF, I EXPLAINED MY THOUGHTS TELL US WHAT LIES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ?
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:31 am
lol joe88, funny…
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:32 am
MANOLO I CANT BELIEVE THIS AND WOW DID THIS JUST MAKE ME LOSE EVEN MORE RESPECT FOR NAS BUT YOUR RIGHT ON HOW YOU JUST BROKE DOWN THE MOBB’S ALBUM VS. NAS’S THE SIMPLE FACT IS NAS CANT MAKE A HOT ALBUM HASNT MADE A COMPLETE ALBUM SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN
ALTHOUGH I WOULD GIVE IT WAS WRITTEN THE SLIGHT EDGE OVER INFAMOUS BUT THAS MY OPINION, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT NAS FELL OFF AS HARD AND FAST AS THE MOBB DID WOW
AND THATS NO LIE
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:34 am
COLDPLAY – WHAT DID JAY LIE ABOUT IVE HEARD HUNDREDS TALK ABOUT NAS LIES AND GENERIC DISSES NEVER ONCE HAVE I HEARD ANYONE SAY JAY LIED DURING THE BATTLE NOT THE MOST DIE HARD NAS FAN WOULD SAY THAT, DO YOU EVEN KNOW ANY OF THE WORDS TO TAKEOVER OR BP2 ( DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT STANDS FOR ) WAS HE LYING ABOUT CARMEN ? WHERE ARE THESE LIES ?
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:35 am
logically it dosnt make sense to sign a wack artist, so which is it. Was Jay lying about Nas being wack, or did he sign Nas cause he couldnt beat him.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:35 am
^pick your poisen
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:40 am
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IN A BATTLE, YOU TRY TO MAKE THE OTHER LOOK STUPID JAY DID THAT AND HE DID IT WITH FACTS ABOUT HOW NAS FELL OFF, NOT THAT NAS WAS A HORRIBLE RAPPER 9 AS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THE BOTH RESPECTED EACH OTHER AS RAPPERS, HENCE THATS WHY JAY RESPONDED TO STILLMATIC AND HE TOOK SO LONG TO SEND THAT LITTLE LINE ABOUT CAM. JAY WOULDNT OF EVEN BATTLED NAS IF HE DIDNT RESPECT NAS, BUT HE STILL CORRECTLY POINTED OUT NAS’S FLAWS WITH PERFECTION AND TOOK THE VIEW OF AN AVG. NAS FAN AND EXPLAINED HOW HE DONE FELL OFF AND HE DID IT WITH ALL FACTS DOESNT MEAN HOV DOESNT THINK HE CAN BRING THAT HEAT BACK OUT, HE ALWAYS SAID ILLMATIC WAS CLASSIC SO HE ADMITS AND KNOWS NAS HAS IT IN HIM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT NAS’S CATALOGUE ITS WEAK AND JAY EXPOSED THAT WITH THE TRUTH
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:41 am
I don’t know (jungle) coldplay maybe jay signed nas to prove to the world that everybody got a price even the lil homey
“i love you cause your my brother you traded your soul for riches” -nas ether
so i guess nas didnt sell his soul when he signed wit jay right? can you say another contradiction by esco
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:42 am
ty, it was written is a classic, but imfamous is right up there. other than that the list is pretty accurate.
I like nas (no homo) but he fell off as did P. But P and hav fell off maybe a year or two later. P’s flow has always outshined Nas’s ecept on the world is mine
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:42 am
NAS SAID 50 WAS THE FUTURE OF RAP ITS ON RECORD NOW HE SAYS 50 IS GARBAGE WHICH IS IT? PICK YOUR POISON
YOU CANT GIVE SOMEONE CREDIT WHEN YOUR IN A BATTLE WITH THEM HOW THE FUCK WOULD THAT SOUND
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:44 am
Yo ty that break down plug gave was garbage(Manolo AKA Plug industries) and you agree with it. Your man Buddens spit fire on mad mixtapes thats what makes him a dope emcee right now, and he doesn’t have any classic albums. Nas has spit enough shit on clue and other DJ joints to make 2 more albums maybe more that will blow any prodigy shit he put out.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:47 am
ty and joe good debate,…but as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:49 am
DBROWN – YOUR RIGHT BUT JUST COMPARE THE ALBUMS AND PLUGS ON POINT, LIKE I SAID I GIVE THE SLIGHT EDGE TO IT WAS WRITTEN THAS MY PERSONAL PREFERNCE BUT HE IS ON POINT WITH THE REST, NOW WHO IS BETTER NOW NAS OR P NAS EASILY, P FELL OFF WAY WORSE THAN NAS P DONT EVEN RYHME ANYMORE BUT JUST CAUSE P FELL OFF WORSE DOESNT MAKE NAS ANY BETTER.
AND I AGREE WITH BUDDENS WHICH IS WHY HE IS NEVER PUT IN MY TOP 10 LISTS ( DO I EXPECT HIM THERE IN 5 YEARS HELL YEA BUT HE DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH YET THATS LIKE COMPARING LEBRON TO JORDAN OR MAGIC ITS TO EARLY )
ALSO NOW AGAIN NAS IS ALWAYS IN MY TOP 10 EVER P NEVER IS EVEN TOP 20 SO DONT MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IM SAYING THEY ARE EQUAL BUT THE YOU LOOK AT THE CATALOGS THOSE ARE EQUAL
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:50 am
DBROWN – ALSO I ALWAYS SAY LOST TAPES WAS THE BEST ALBUM HE PUT OUT AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN I FUCKED WITH THAT ALBUM
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:47 am
ty and joe good debate,…but as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.
OK SO LEAD US TO THESE PACK OF LIES PUT THEM IN FRONT OF US AND I WILL READ THEM, WELL I WOULD IF THEY EXISTED.
TELL US WHAT WERE HIS LIES???
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:52 am
coldplayReggaetonslasher Says:
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:47 am
ty and joe good debate,…but as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.
O AND SURE YOU CAN YOU CAN FORCE THE HEAD UNDER WATER AND DROWN IT FORCING WATER STRAIGHT INTO THE LUNGS PROBLEM IS THE HORSE DIES SAME THING WILL HAPPEN TO YOU ONCE YOU FINALLY FIGURE IT OUT THE HATER INSIDE WILL DIE
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:57 am
Hey guys, i copped this jay mixtape around the time the black album was dropping & it had this nas dis on it i never heard. the audio is completly fucked up on it. after finding out that that wasent jay on 45’s i was skeptical on if it was jay or (noe, angelous or any of them other dudes) but the verse was fire. do anyone want me to post the lyrics?
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:02 pm
new topic metaphysics: your thoughts…
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:10 pm
COLDLAY – MY THOUGHTS ARE YOU STILL HAVENT TOLD US ANYTHING JAY LIED ABOUT NOT ONE GOD DAMN THING ? WHAT DID HE LIE ABOUT IM REALLY CURIOUS CAUSE YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE EVER HEARD MUTTER THOSE WORDS
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:11 pm
I MEANT COLDPLAY I WASNT TRYING TO MAKE SOME CORNY JOKE ABOUT YOUR NAME JUST MISPELT IT
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:19 pm
ty, i was raising the point, that if everything Jay said was true, isnt he contradicting himself by signing Nas, and if not i was asking you to explain his intellectual reasoning.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 pm
@joe88
…post that shit…
“..i dont believe that shit y’all shoveling…” – Big Homie
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 pm
JAY HAS ALWAYS ADMITTED NAS TALENT AND SKILLS HE NEVER DOUBTED THAT HE JUST SAID HE FELL THE FUCK OFF AND HE SLAMS EVERYONE FOR DOING COMMERCIAL SHIT TALKING ABOUT ICE BUT THEN HE GOES AND DOES THE SAME THING, JAY ATTACKED NAS’S CHARACTER AND HIS ALBUMS HE DIDNT ATTACK HIS SKILL AND LYRICAL ABILITY, AGAIN WHAT DID YOU WANT HIM TO DO COME OUT AND
” HEY NAS YOU MY FAVORITE MC/ I REALLY DIDNT WANT TO BATTLE YOU BUT YOU CAME AT ME/ NOW IM GONNA HAVE GO THROUGH AND PICK APART YOUR WHOLE HISTORY ” I MEAN HOW WOULD THAT LOOK.
ALSO LIKE JOE 88 SAID REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE SAYS NAS SIGNING TO JAY IS LIKE ADMITTING YOU LOST IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS AND REALLY ITS A POWER MOVE BY JAY, IT CAN ONLY MAKE JAY LOOK BETTER AND JAY HAS THE ARROGANCE TO THINK HE CAN MAKE NAS BRING THAT ILLMATIC BACK OUT
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:30 pm
ALSO REMEBER
‘YOUS A FAKE A PHONY A STAN” IF NAS REALLY FELT LIKE THAT ISNT THAT THE BIGGEST BITCH MOVE EVER SIGNING WITH JAY? DO I THINK NAS DID SOMETHING DUMB SIGNING WITH JAY ? NO I THINK HE WAS SMART AND DEADED THAT SHIT, IT WAS A BEEF OVER SOME HOE, SHE AINT NOTHING BUT A TRICK NO NEED TO HURT YOU RPOCKETS OR CAREER CAUSE SOME OTHER DUDE FUCKED HER, BUT A BATTLE IS A BATTLE YOU POINT OUT YOU OPPENTS FLAWS, I KNOW DUDES WHO BATTLE EACH OTHER DAILY ON THE CORNER AT THE COURTS WHERE EVER DUDES STAY BATTLING EACH OTHER AND THEY ARE FRIENDS AFTERWARDS THEY SAY SOME FOULD SHIT ABOUT EACH OTHERS MOMS AND GIRLS THEN DAP AND ITS ALL GOOD, THEY COOL BUT WHEN THEY ARE BATTLING ITS ANYTHING GOES ALL BETS ARE OFF
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:49 pm
DAMN YOU REALLY HAVE NO RESPONSE TO THAT DO YOU?
May 23rd, 2006 at 1:01 pm
@landlord
it’s kinda short but i’ll post it
“what lies ahead is your past
you,re whole entire life i REWIND your whole life wit one shotgun blast
you get left in the essence for getting fresh wit ya father
really you should of got HOVA SON cross ya belly
now tell me have i lost already
your whole cru can HATE ME NOW i got your coffins ready
those in glass houses shall not throw stones
you wanna get at mr carter i reside on the throne
and the fact still remains you gonna save that bitch
get off my dick lil homie jay that shit”
Then the song cuts off. the name of the cd is s.carter & sickamore from marcy to madison square.
May 23rd, 2006 at 1:03 pm
^you’re whole entire life i rewind wit one shotgun blast
*damn, i need to slow down when i type*
May 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
BITCH ASS FAGGOTS LANDLORD AND COLDPLAY CANT HANDLE ME IN THIS THREAD SO THEY GO SPREADING THEIR HATE AND DEVIL TALK INTO ANOTHER THREAD FUCK YOU BOTH I KNOW MORE ABOUT HIP-HOP THAN YOU COULD EVER HOPE FOR. FUCKING LAMES GET OFF NAS DICK AND ADMIT DEFEAT ALREADY I MEAN SHIT NAS CAME TO GRIPS WITH IT WHY CANT YOU ?
May 23rd, 2006 at 2:42 pm
FUCKING COWARDS COME ON SPEAK YOUR HATE AND IGNORANCE
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:24 pm
>>ill change you are fucling crazy blacck album is better than nas’s whole catalog yeah there I said it.
if u had said “Reasonable Doubt” is better than NaS’s whole catalog, u maybe could have swayed some people to your side, but THERE IS NO ALBUM THAT CAN HOLD A CANDLE TO ILLMATIC’S LYRICISM THAT ISN’T FROM AROUND THE SAME TIME PERIOD OF ILLMATIC. “better than nas’s whole catalog” hah, the prospect of the Black Album in its entirety, including “Change Clothes” being better than Illmatic in its entirety.
“Snap out ya dreams and prayers of takin’ the king’s paper/
Ask that other rapper how it feel to lose his whole gangsta (How it feel man?)/
You’s a no-namesta, ya little mans is no threat/
You make me upset i might stank ya (b-b-b-b-b-BLAST!)” – NaS
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:08 pm
sorry ill change i love illmatic but i enjoy jay’s music more. its the fact that i think for me personally jay-z is easier to listen to over and over again. again im a nas fan but everyday i listen to music from atleast 2 people ( jay-z and tupac ) you ever hear dave chapelle when he talks about how he loves to listen to jay and go in to meetings with this ridiculous cocky swagger thats how i feel and thats what i perfer jay more than nas, its not really a knock on nas its just my personal perference. and like i said i personally feel black album is just an older reasonable doubt you had one horrible song on black album one song with an awful hook but he drops some shit on the verses
It goes one o’clock, two o’clock, three o’clock rock
Five six seven o’clock, eight o’clock rock
Eleven o’clock, twelve o’clock, the party bout to pop
Then – Roc-A-Fella y’all, it’s your boy S. Dot
And I ain’t never been to jail; I ain’t never pay a nigga
to do no dirt for me I was scared to do myself
I will never tell even if it means sittin in a cell
I ain’t never ran, never will
I ain’t never been smacked; a nigga better keep his hands
to himself or get clapped for what’s under that man’s belt
I never asked for nothin I don’t demand of myself
Honesty, loyalty, friends and then wealth
Death before dishonor and I tell you what else
I tighten my belt ‘fore I beg for help
Foolish pride is what held me together through the years
I wasn’t felt which is why I ain’t never played myself
I just play the hand I’m dealt, I can’t say I’ve never knelt
before God and asked for better cards at times to no avail
But I never sat back feelin sorry for myself
If you don’t give me heaven I’ll raise hell
‘Til it’s heaven
Now if you shoot my dog, I’ma kill yo’ cat
Just the unwritten laws in rap – know dat
For every action there’s a reaction, don’t have me relapsin
Relaxin’s what I’m about, but about mine
Don’t be actin like you can’t see street action
Take me back to +Reasonable Doubt+ time
You see my mind’s on the finish line, facin the wreck
I put my muh’fuckin faith in the tec, tell Satan not yet
You understand I am chasin my breath
I am narrowly escapin my death, oh yes
I am the Michael Schumacher of the Roc roster
Travellin Mach 5, barrelin, my power can stop God
God forgive me but I can’t let them deliver me to you
Until, I won this race, then eventually
My engine gon’ burn out, I get whatever is meant for me
However it turns out fine – red line
They say an eye for an eye, we both lose our sight
And two wrongs don’t make a right
But when you been wrong and you know all along that it’s just one life
At what point does one fight? (Good question right!)
‘Fore you knock the war, try to put your dogs in it
Ten-and-a-halfs, for a minute-and-a-half
Bet that stops all the grinnin and the laughs
When you play the game of life and the win ain’t in the bag
When your options is none and the pen is all you have
or the block, niggaz standin tight, there’s limits on the ave
Tryin to cop or shot-call theyself cleansin in the cash
But can’t put they name on paper cause, then you on blast
Mr. President, there’s drugs in our residence
Tell me what you want me to do, come break bread with us
Mr. Governor, I swear there’s a cover up
Every other corner there’s a liquor store – fuck is up? ”
and thats thought to be the second worst song on the album that = CLASSIC and i can see the future and i will listen to the black album more times throughout the rest of my life than i will illmatic ( and i was listening to illmatic today everyone else inspired me but i listen to something from the black album everyday and reasonable doubt ) but thats just me
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:07 pm
@ biggums
i respect your point of view, and i just happen to like NaS better. i guess thats just the way it is. i dont think Jay is bad at all, i just dont like when someone makes sweeping generalizations about an artist, especially someone of NaS’s stature. i got cousins in the Bay area who say Illmatic changed the way they look at life. looks like were gonna have to dead this jay vs nas shit and K.I.M.
I’m from where n****s pull your card, and argue all day about/
Who’s the best MC’s, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas” – Jay-Z
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:31 pm
^ I should change the subtitle of this site to that Jay quote. I couldn’t be more appropriate.
May 24th, 2006 at 12:04 pm
SERIOUSLY ESKAY – ILL CHANGE I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS EVERYONE IS TAKING WHAT IM SAYING AS A DISS AGAINST NAS AND I DONT THINK IT IS, I LIKE NAS HE IS EASILY TOP 10 BUT HIS ALBUMS GENERALLY DONT LIVE YOU TO ITS EXPECTATIONS THATS ALL, NOW AS FAR AS YOUR PERFERING NAS NO DOUBT DO YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS, SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE DIE HARD NAS STANS SOME ARE DIE HARD JAY FANS SOME ARE IN BETWEEN I LEAN TOWARDS HOV CAUSE HE HAS NEVER LET ME DOWN ON AN ALBUM NOT ONCE NOT EVER, BUT AGAIN THIS IS JUST ME I NOT TRYING TO TELL ANYONE THAT THEY DONT THINK NAS IS THE BEST IF THATS HOW YOU FEEL COOL,
LETS JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE
May 24th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Here’s the facts
ty biggums:
-believes 2nd childhood was nothing special, then had to take it back but not really
-believes that favor for a favor was nothing special.
– did not even rate the fire intro on stillmatic
-still is dogmatic about there not being 5 hot songs on stillmatic when clearly there is plenty
– said one mic was overrated
-had to recant his statement about I am being trash
-everyone has pointed out the double standard but he fails to repeat it
-goes off on tangents about nas topics and content with his life that has nothing to do with the question at hand about I am and stillmatic being trash
– Very dogmatic in saying Stillmatic and I am being Trash. not average but Trash
-has argued about ether not being all that/says that nas only said 1 hot line in ether
—Very cocky and in his words talking to coldplay and Landlord said”FUCK YOU BOTH I KNOW MORE ABOUT HIP-HOP THAN YOU COULD EVER HOPE FOR. ”
the KICKER– *Believes that Takeover was better than Ether*(I am a jay fan and when I heard this even I admitted that ether beat takeover)
The DOOZY- this is in his own words Black album is just as good as reasonable doubt
The DOOZY of all doozy’s – I asked him what albums were better than illmatic- He says, IRONMAN, MOMENT OF TRUTH, **BLACK ALBUM**, READY TO DIE, ETC.( these are all great albums but does it quite match up to illmatic?)
Thinks that Nas is only in Top 10 but not top 5/believes that EM is better than NAS
okay guys this is just a brief. Now its up to you guys to make your own conclusion of why he thinks I am and stillmatic are trash.
This is not an argument of jay vs nas. I have pointed out some points why he thinks I am and stillmatic are trash. He has some ambiguous feeling towards jay so maybe that is because of his dislike of nas Albums.
May 26th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
Admittedly, I skipped to the bottom, but had to read back up some…
Just wanted to add my opinions, respecting all of yours. Nas signing to Jay-Z…when will the masses learn to let things go? When will mc’s learn that [pulling out shyt on people in] a battle may have more resounding effects than what people let on to?
The Nas vs. Jay-Z battle can be looked back on as two men following the tugs of immature mindsets. I was told (so yeah, not proven) that Jay apologized for bringing the information about the baby momz out. Some shyt ain’t for the masses to hear; just like some things are just better undone in the first place. My point here = pride is a sever stumblingblock.
Now that Nas has signed to Jay everybody’s wanting to claim that Nas lost the battle and supposedly losing respect for him. Some battles are not helpful to one’s being or the camps that surround/support them. In this day and age of BLACK men not being able to work together, it’s a shame that we fail to acknowledge the power and strength shown in Nas’ ability to sign with anything affiliated with Jay. Yeah, some feel that it’s homo to do something like that after what they’ve gone through. I think it’s ignorant for anybody to allow pride to rule their life. Same goes for me, as I continue to learn to live in this world.
Opinions will be opinions, but I hold Nas’ flow in high regard. Yeah, he’s supposedly (and obviously) switched up a bit through the years, but hell…how many mofo’s out wearing buttondowns with cufflinks now and two years or so were wearing white tees? I feel that possibility is a part of any man’s life, least much a celebrity’s. I have looked at artist’s inconsistencies with disdain before until I realized that my shyt stank su’m awful.
Jay’s music is also something that I revere, but it would have to be for differing reasons. Personally, I feel that any subject can be worn out and with the way hip hop was promoted (and is to this day, also, dependent on who you’re talking about), subjects were worn out like truck stop ho’s.
To add on, it is agreed as some of you guys have stated that you can not force one’s opinion. Just open up your mind a little. Don’t let outrage cloud your conversation….even if “he started it.”
June 1st, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Nas is the better MC….and he has the better track record….and also better albums….
Wack Pop Club Nas Songs
Big Girl
You Owe Me
Wack Pop Club Jay Songs
Hola hoveto
Girls Girls Girls
Money Cash Ho
Izzo
All I need
Justify My Thug
Change Clothes
Bonnie & Clude
Big Pimpin
Can I get a fuck you
Jigga that Nigga
Nigga What, Nigga who
Sunshine
Nigga please
Poppin tags
Fuck all night
The bounce
Excuse me miss
2 many hoes
What you gonna do 2
I know what girls like
Snoopy track
things that you do
Hovi Baby
What they gonna do
I could go on forever …..Jay-Z….is right next to LL cool j, for most overated…….people are looking too hard for someone to save hip-hop…All of Jay’s albums were wack except his first one….
and by the way….those that said STILLMATIC, STREETS DISCIPLE, AND I AM ARE WACK, NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF!!!! Even Nastradmus isnt as bad as people say it is…..it’s just bad for a Nas album…..it was still better then most of the bullshit coming out at that time anyway…
June 1st, 2006 at 11:28 pm
half of those Jay-z songs you mentioned are crack. you sound like a typical Nas stan. Jay made all of those pop songs and he’s successful because of them, but ya’ll act like your mad at him because of it and try to detract from his lyrical abilities. how you gonna say all of his albums are wack except the first one? Nas and Jay both have subpar songs in their catalogues and filler on their albums. but, you’re obviously bitter about something, probably all the love Jay gets from everybody including the Little Homey.
And Street’s Disciple was horrible, admitting that to yourself is your first step towards redemption.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:13 am
First off, if I was a Nas ‘stan’ I wouldnt know any off those Jay-Z songs……I have like all of his solo albums….Nas stans don’t buy Jay-Z albums……..I’m only calling him Gay-Z right now…..cause I dont think he deseves the props people on here are throwing at him…
But anyway….I could break down all of Jay-z’s LPs….and why they were wack….but I’m not going to go into that…..all I’m going to say is take another close listen to the album “Blueprint” and tell me what you get out of it…..I couldnt belive people were actually calling that one a classic…..
And I loved Streets Disciple…It was classic LP in my eyes…..I think this was the best double cd right next to Wu-tand Forever…..I can understand why people didnt like it though….it’s becuase people didnt understand it……It was one of those albums that showed his growth…..It shows the transtion from were he was the immature thug..carefree..player type of kid……to a man that is socially aware of the world around him….and developed with a matured mind state eventually geting married…and starting a family……….people didnt get this album also due to the fact that it wasnt ‘street’ enough…..or there wasnt hard hitting bass….:)
June 5th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
Wack Pop Club Jay Songs
Hola hoveto
Girls Girls Girls
Money Cash Ho
Izzo
All I need
Justify My Thug
Change Clothes
Bonnie & Clude
Big Pimpin
Can I get a fuck you
Jigga that Nigga
Nigga What, Nigga who
Sunshine
Nigga please
Poppin tags
Fuck all night
The bounce
Excuse me miss
2 many hoes
What you gonna do 2
I know what girls like
Snoopy track
things that you do
Hovi Baby
What they gonna do
I agree 100% Jay-Z smells like DOO DOO & PEE PEE
July 14th, 2006 at 8:50 am
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