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Cedric Muhammad On The Star Controversy

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There has been much back and forth over the past week about the Star incident, and while most people seem to agree Star finally crossed a line he should have never even approached, a number of people have also come forward in support of his tactics. Cedric Muhammad of BlackElectorate.com weighed in on the controversy in a column on Friday titled: A Star. Bigger Than ‘Nigger Nonsense.’ More Than A Sound Bite.

In speaking to those of my friends who listen to the program regularly there is a consensus that Star’s words look and sound worse out of context on paper and in audio bites than when delivered during the flow of his program. Furthermore, there is a majority opinion that folks who don’t listen to Star’s show simply can’t understand or maybe even accept that such comments – while offensive to some, while listened to in context and the flow of the show – are not out of the purview of what Star ‘does.’ No one that I have spoken to actually believes that Star would ever literally follow through with what he was heard describing this week. As I have written in the past, very devoted and very careful listeners know that while Star is genuine and bold, he is also a master of rhetorical devices – satire, dialectics, polemics, reverse psychology – dramatizing his points in very uncomfortable but compelling ways.

The article is type long, but it’s an interesting read, even though I’m inclined to disagree with his outlook on the situation. The one thing I’ve always liked about Star, that Muhammand also touches on, is the way he throws alot of the stupid shit our generation does back in our faces and tries to make us see just how stupid we actually look and sound. I also understand that he said what he said to get a reaction from Envy, but I fail to see how broadcasting remarks like those across the tri-state area at 9:00 in the morning is an acceptable way to get attention under any circumstances.  


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93 Responses to “Cedric Muhammad On The Star Controversy”

  1. The Truth... Says:

    …..this guy is a retard….

  2. The Truth... Says:

    I don’t care what his intensions were….if he was joking or not….if I was Envy I could not let that shit slide. He is very strong if he does, though (let it slide…).

  3. P-Matik Says:

    Star is still a Moe-Ron and a Howard Stern wannabe. I don’t care what anyone says.

  4. HIPHOP101 (im a stan) Says:

    star gotta small head(no homo)
    and suge’s body

  5. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    THIS SHITS RIDICULOUS. IF YOU LISTEN TO THE FLOW OF THE WORDS ITS NOT AS BAD AS READING THE WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT. IM SORRY I DONT THINK YOU COULD POSSIBLY TAKE THE WORDS HE SAID OUT OF CONTEXT I MEAN WHAT OTHER CONTEXT COULD IT BE PUT IN ? SLANT EYED GOOK WHORE I WANT TO R.KELLEY AND NUT IN YOUR 4 YEAR OLD DAUGHTERS FACE I GOT 500$ FOR ANYONE WHO CAN GIVE ME WHERE SHE GOES TO SCHOOL WHAT POSSIBLE CONTEXT COULD THAT BE PUT IN WHERE IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE STATEMENT. LISTEN HE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS ABOUT ENVY SHIT EVEN HIS WIFE BUT DONT EVER EVER TALK ABOUT ANOTHER MAN’S CHILD I WOULDNT BLAME ENVY FOR BEATING HIM INTO SUBMISSION. LIKE ESKAY SAYS I USED TO LIKE STAR FOR THE SAME REASONS HE HAS NO PROBLEM MAKING FUN OF US AND OUR HEROS/IDOLS WHENEVER THEY OR WE DO SOMETHING DUMB AND IGNORANT BUT ITS SAD WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS POINTING OUT OTHERS FLAWS CANT GET PAST THEIR OWN OBVIOUSLY FLAWS, STOP PREACHING YOUR RIGHETOUSNESS CAUSE ALL THAT MEANS IS YOUR COVERING UP YOUR GUILT.

    THIS GOES FOR STAR
    BILL O’REILLY AND ALL THOSE TYPES.

    P-MATRIX – ALL SHOCK JOCKS ARE STERN WANNABE’S BUT STERN WOULD NEVER EVER COME EVEN REMOTLEY CLOSE TO THAT LINE THAT STAR CROSSED. STERN IS NOWHERE NEAR THAT DISRESPECTFUL AND REALLY EVERYTHING HE DOES IS FOR FUN AND JOKES STAR TRIES TO STIR SHIT UP WITH HIS “HATE” STERN DOES STERN THE OTHERS CANT DO WHAT HE DOES SO THEY HAVE TO RESPORT TO CROSSING THE LINE TO LOOK FOR RESPONSES

  6. P-Matik Says:

    Exactly. Stern pushed the bar up pretty high.

    I don’t know…I like listening to 92Q in Baltimore…at least they bring in some interesting guests to talk to. Russ Parr is funny too.

    NYC commercial radio is corny.

  7. Big Boi RI Says:

    this is just retard! you cant rationalize his actions.

  8. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    thats for damn sure. ive listended to howard in the morning forever people cant top him, they think they have to out dirty him or out shock him but they dont realize he is much more than that, he makes shit work others couldnt, of course artie is the best part of the show now as dude is absolutely hysterical but people think is success is all from his toilet humor and its not its the way he does it and he never ever would cross the line and disrepect somone seed like that, there a fine line between jokes and straight up anger hate and venom which is what star said, i mean star offended me by his comments and i am not asian nor was that my daughter but god damn if i wasnt offended by it still

  9. Paprazzi Xibit is better than your favorite rapper Says:

    Howard stern has been pretty disrespectful to some people. making fun of mental retarded people, saying the word nigga or even nigger, but what star did is pretty overwhelming. Saying jokes about skeeting on someone elses kid is way past the line. This nigga long jumped crossed it back and did an evil canevil on it.

  10. paparazzi xzbit is better than your favorite rapper Says:

    sorry spelled my name wrong

  11. Foekist aka The Cosigner Says:

    >>star gotta small head(no homo)
    and suge’s body

    I swear that picture look like they did a photoshop and put his head and neck on someone else’s body.

  12. eskay Says:

    speaking of mentally retarded people, I just looked that bitch Egypt up and she could definitely get the high hard one, but is it me or is there something about her that says short yellow bus? I’m not saying she’s stupid, cuz I never even heard her on air, but I don’t know she just looks a little uhhh, retarded?

  13. eskay Says:

    case in point:

    http://myspace-174.vo.llnwd.net/00585/47/19/585529174_l.jpg

  14. Foekist aka The Cosigner Says:

    Where else can u find pics of her at? It’s hard to think of what to type in on google to get pics of her.

  15. Foekist aka The Cosigner Says:

    Eskay, in that picture, it looks like her breath might stank. Maybe cuz I know how some Middle East people smell (got like 3 families in my building alone).

  16. eskay Says:

    what’s her nationality?

    http://www.myspace.com/egyptonair

  17. eskay Says:

    oh wait, lemme guess, Egyptian…?

    *smacks self*

  18. Foekist aka The Cosigner Says:

    Dayum. I like that nice round boo-tai on that top pic, though Es’.

  19. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    Paprazzi Xibit is better than your favorite rapper Says:
    May 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
    Howard stern has been pretty disrespectful to some people. making fun of mental retarded people, saying the word nigga or even nigger, but what star did is pretty overwhelming. Saying jokes about skeeting on someone elses kid is way past the line. This nigga long jumped crossed it back and did an evil canevil on it.

    yea he can come close to a line but not near the one stsr as you said long jumped over. yea he does make fun of retards to to be fair he helps all of them out alot he gives them all crazy money they all tour and make appearance like wendy the retard and gary the retard all get paid and have the best life they could cause of howard, plus they bring themselves on and play along, yea they might be slow but they know enough to know what thery are doing and again howard makes sure they are taken care off.

    also now howards use of the n word does bother me to from time to time but if you listen to him you know where he is coming from with it. he is coming from he doesnt think the word is that big a deal anymore ( i couldnt disagree more ) and he has that rappers say it black people call each other it all day why cant i. again i dont agree with that thinking but also howard never uses the word in a demeaning way, you never hear him say that stupid nigger or i hate niggers, he is usually making fun of either white people saying it or the way people go so far out of their way to express that they say niggA instead of niggER. plus howard grew up around mostly black people obviously him and robin are mad cool to each other he likes plenty of black people on the show. you cant tell with howard although it is stupid when he says it he doesnt have the hate behind it that makes the word so powerful

  20. eskay Says:

    yeah she could get the Cockasaurus

    @ Foekist (NO HOMO)

  21. D. Billz Says:

    “I don’t know…I like listening to 92Q in Baltimore…at least they bring in some interesting guests to talk to. Russ Parr is funny too.”

    ^ I hate 92Q. When I was listening to radio, the only show I would listen to was Mark Clark and the Big Phat Morning Show. But due to my work schedule I haven’t been able to catch that either. And for some reason, Russ Parr just isn’t funny to me. Not on TV One, radio… nothing.

  22. Foekist aka The Cosigner Says:

    Never mind. She bad as HELL! And her voice is sexy.

  23. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    eskay Says:
    May 15th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
    yeah she could get the Cockasaurus

    yeah she could most defintely get it.

  24. eskay Says:

    Stern is a funny motherfucker, but I can’t fuck with him cuz he be wildin out with the race shit sometimes. it’s not even about him using that word, it’s the shit he be talking. I mean it is funny sometimes, but I’ve always been on some “who the fuck are you to kid about shit like that,” when it comes to him.

  25. Regular Joe aka JB: Memo to Jigabooman Says:

    HA HA HA HA
    give me that beat fool, sorry jigga boo you had a good 7 yrs, Pharell told me to take it back dude
    But I dont want no drama, well Maybe I do. HA HA

    I’m the best in the game/ best thats insane/half-hearted still tear niggas up with spare change/ Hov you ain’t on my level get out the game/ you washed up, just chill on another terrain/ You’s a gary payton/passion’s satan/dice clayton/ renting nigga’s style like avis/ You talk about how you the big homie of the roc/ But i’ll put your rock in my box/ and I’ll pray for you fella/ cause I’ll rain on you fella/ they say niggas go to hell if it rains on they death/ so grab an umbrella/ hear the music play fella/ the strings and the cella/ You was bacteria, had to wash you out the game salmonela/ But no way I am coming after hov, he’s the realest in the game even though next week I’m snatching his chain/ fuck his broad/ then give him back the game/ But still hov I would never go after you, you’s the greatest of all time right after pikachu/ Nigga wasn’t real, more like a test tube/ Real niggas want to see what the best do/ that best is budding, his name is regular joe/ I’m putting out that real mUUUSic/ changed my name to jif, cause real niggas choose it/and ya 92 bricks I was the one who took it, gave to mobb deep, they was the ones who shook it/ New name it crooked/ ya boy trump saw the flow told nbc to book it/ and you soon follow me cause ya flow is medium/ and your flow is rap on steriods with a bunch of helium…

    ha ha ha, I love ya. No way am I gon after hov, wouldn’t do that ha ha
    what up B, I see ya holla at me.

  26. D. Billz Says:

    Yeah, Egypt was on the air here in Baltimore. One of my boys said he saw her in a local mall when she was here. He told me she was kinda cut-up too, like she’ll fuck somebody up.

  27. D. Billz Says:

    ^ That Regular Joe dude must got a lot of free time to take an old ass “Pump It Up” freestyle and change the words. Wow.

  28. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    eskay Says:
    May 15th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
    Stern is a funny motherfucker, but I can’t fuck with him cuz he be wildin out with the race shit sometimes. it’s not even about him using that word, it’s the shit he be talking. I mean it is funny sometimes, but I’ve always been on some “who the fuck are you to kid about shit like that,” when it comes to him.

    yea i know the exact shit your talking about but you have to realize the wide variety of people he appeals to. i mean dude has the most spreadout fanbase as far as demogaphics are concerned. but ive never taken the shit he says to be offensive, and alot of that has to do with the fact he grew up in the roosevelt long island he obviously knows how serious of an issues race is but he tries to not make it one. there have been times when i was like whoa there easy howard but again you can still tell where his heart is at ( just the other day he had some porn star on who said she doesnt do black guys in movies, cause she never has in real life, i mean howard basically pulled her card and was like thats some bullshit, what kind of sense does that make ?i f you listen to howard enough you’ll hear him defending against racism alot more than you hear him even joking about it.

  29. UncleJavier Says:

    listening to the show you could tell that Star was joking, and he does say some crazy shit. I think dude is smart and realized what he was doing, his fucking cohost is named white trash. I think its a waste of money to throw him in jail for some shit he said wasting taxpayers money. He is the new lenny bruce and the only thing that should have been done is that he get his ass beat.

  30. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ very valid point. the radio station should be in more trouble than star as they obviously encouraged it shit thats why they hired him, and yea i mean the girl’s name is white trash what would you expect from a show like that, it was only a matter of time

  31. Regular Joe aka JB: Memo to Jigabooman Says:

    actually d. billz that only took 15-20 minutes, just something I made up real quick.

  32. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    about the white trash part not about him kidding im sorry there is absolutely no kidding when talking about tracking down and skeeting in a 4 year old girls face, thats not a joke that aint funny and the station should be shut down and star should be fired ( with no god damn pay how is he still gonna collect his 5 mill a year and how the fuck did he get a 5 million a year contract ? did people like him that much damn

  33. biggumskiller Says:

    whats up with all these racsist porn bitches??? i think they cant do us in movies becoz out in so cal theres mad rascism and if they fuck a black dude on film their rate goes down meaning they start getting paid less!!!
    even though we may not all like the same music theresa point when we gotta start making other races pay for any type of disrespect!! stop killin each other and bring the ruckes to the real enemy

  34. biggumskiller Says:

    and this star dj envy beef is stupid
    everybody wanna be 50 nowadays

  35. Darth Cipher Says:

    i still dont agree with the bullshit he said, no matter how it was meant to be, time and place should always be taken into consideration

  36. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    biggumskiller Says:
    May 15th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
    whats up with all these racsist porn bitches??? i think they cant do us in movies becoz out in so cal theres mad rascism and if they fuck a black dude on film their rate goes down meaning they start getting paid less!!!

    that atleast used to be the case ( i remember girls going on howard sayin gin their personal life the fuck black dudes no problem but on film they wont cause it lowers their value to the avg. porn consumer ) this bitch i was talking about said thats not why she wouldnt fuck a black guy and howard called her out. i can understand a porn star not wanting to fuck a guy if she would get paid less cause of his skin color, you cant blame them thats the how it goes, but this bitch was just straight up racist ( although she is probably scared of the black cocks cause she said she has a size limit if your too big your not going in cause she had her cervic torn in her first film )

    even though we may not all like the same music theresa point when we gotta start making other races pay for any type of disrespect!! stop killin each other and bring the ruckes to the real enemy

    ummm star is black and disrespected asians lacks and human beings in general im not sure what your talking about who do you need to pay for this shit ? but i do agree the killing an threating needs to stop

  37. Kheri Wes Says:

    Yo, he is supposed to be a shock jock or whatever they call themselves, he is egged on to always do bigger and badder stunts to create ratings, i am with whoever said he should have got the shit beat out of him, outside of that a suspension maybe, but dont shit on somebody when you pay him to do the type of asshole shit he does.

  38. X-ceptional Says:

    this nicca Star is Fruit and old and dosnt desereve the attention or the show he has/had. BlackBall this nicca from the industry and K.I.M.

  39. Just the facts aka Jigman: memo to average rapper joe Says:

    Ha Ha HA had to take it back old school on this one,
    what up SKI, I see ya, give me that beat son, don’t worry I’m a give it back soon ha ha, just having a lil fun wit it, you know how we do
    It’s the Roc holla at boy, yes, yes Uh, Uh, Uh, UH

    Whoa/ it’s hov/ and I jump on the track/ that’s the sound of the second coming and I get right back/ wont touch the earth/ cause ya’ll average rappers is dirt/ I’m too clean too holy/ comeback and I still got old money/ Me and big was having fun up there/ chilling with L and E in plush leather chairs/ But I’m hearing the sound of wackness/ way below average/ Regular dudes posing as actors/ they aint dropped no albums are they even a factor?/ Listen homie why dont you skip to my lou and give me some hot sauce, better be high octane/ cause the game was forever in my name/ signed by my hancock/ on ya knees son cause I’m funding ya career like ya grandpops/ It’s been locked/ Gridlocked/ I can’t stop wont stop/ I’m so hot/ This is Hovi baby/ died on the cross to give the game to you baby/ So come on back playaa/ you and me is like MJ and pax playa/ Just carry my towel playaaa/ But I aint talking to nobody, just having fun wit it/ but check it/ Ya flow been seeds/ mine been budding/ don’t fuck with average joe’s/ with average flows/ average O’s/ Ya average is too low/ This jigga man had a high GPA/ with high DNA/ Run ya career all day/ So go back and play the cotton/ You just a stock option/Nigga I’m john madden/ can’t be stopped by bin ladden.

    Ha ha you know how we do, it aint nothing to it. I see ya T, Free, Bleek, Bean, Its the Roc, just having fun.

  40. StarQuality Says:

    Stone the homo in the streets like in the biblical times. Yadada!

  41. Bandana P - Cape Town, South Africa Says:

    how y’all think Tigger will do in Star’s place?

  42. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    Fuck Howard stern… if u think that he wouldnt call u a nigger in real life u are kidding yourself…he doesnt employ “retards” he simply exploits them and puts them on display as a circus…and as many of u have stated in a roundabout way he is the driving force behind this type of shock jockery…
    did I mention Fuck stern

  43. SANGANO Says:

    I DONT THINK IT WAS ALL THAT BAD…especially if you listen to Star and know his persona….yall emotional

  44. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    someone doesnt have kids^^^

  45. nBmore Says:

    All radio & TV is gettin out of hand. You would think they were broadcasting strictly for adults. Alot of these shows get by with calling there shows FAMILY SHOWS but during that time adult topics are being discussed an carried on like its a joke. Its ok at night, but when you are driving your kids to school and the dj decides to talk about sex in the morning you have to turn the station.

  46. Bugsytheboss Says:

    That nigga Star looking like a Gangsta on that picture like “I don’t give a fuck I’ll say it again”

  47. becks Says:

    eskay said:
    Stern is a funny motherfucker, but I can’t fuck with him cuz he be wildin out with the race shit sometimes.

    So is Dave Chappelle…

  48. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    L.P.CROOKS Says:

    May 15th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
    Fuck Howard stern… if u think that he wouldnt call u a nigger in real life u are kidding yourself…he doesnt employ “retards” he simply exploits them and puts them on display as a circus…and as many of u have stated in a roundabout way he is the driving force behind this type of shock jockery…
    did I mention Fuck stern

    ummm actually he does employ all those retards. everyone of them bettlejuice, gary the retard, wendy the retard, eric the midget they all get paid and they all do crazy appearances and shows that howard hooks them up with. not too mention if you listened to the show wnedy the retard gets a new computer,t.v.,dvd player, radio whatever she wants like once a week, thise people all benefit greatly from being on his show.

    also i have never met howard but i honestly dont think he would ever call anyone a nigger in a serious and offensive manner, and if you really believe that you dont listen to him enough ive been listening to him for 10-15 years i feel like i know him and i dont think for a second he has any ill will towards your avg. black person. sure if he she some dude 6’6 280 all thugged out he will get nervous but it wont make him anymore or less nervous if the dude is white/black/spanish whatever

    becks Says:

    May 15th, 2006 at 6:38 pm
    eskay said:
    Stern is a funny motherfucker, but I can’t fuck with him cuz he be wildin out with the race shit sometimes.

    So is Dave Chappelle…

    THATS SOME REAL TALK THERE, CHAPPELLE MAKES WHITE JOKES ITS ALL GOOD AND STERN MAKES SOME BLACK JOKES BUT HE DOESNT HAVE A SERIOUS RACIAL TONE BEHIND WHAT HE SAYS AND IM A HUGE CHAPPELLE FAN DONT GET ME WRONG BUT HE HAS MADE SOME SKETCHES AND JOKES THAT COULD BE CRAZY OFFENSIVE TO WHITE PEOPLE

  49. eskay Says:

    >>someone doesnt have kids^^^

    basically

  50. eskay Says:

    >>IM A HUGE CHAPPELLE FAN DONT GET ME WRONG BUT HE HAS MADE SOME SKETCHES AND JOKES THAT COULD BE CRAZY OFFENSIVE TO WHITE PEOPLE

    ^true but there’s always beena double standard with black comics talkin about white people

  51. becks Says:

    Chappelle IS funny,but if some white comedian would made them same comments,or made that sketch “Racial draft”,he would be called a racist.
    Its a thin line,and opinions are like assholes,everybody got one.

  52. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    O ESKAY I AGREE NO DOUBT, AND SOME WHITE COMICS WILL CROSS THE LINE INTO NOT EVEN FUNNY JUST MEAN AND HATEFILLED, THATS THE LINE STAR CROSSED AND THATS THE LINE I CANT EVER REMEMBER HEARING HOWARD CROSS, NOW OBVIOUSLY IVE MISSED PLENTY OF THE THINGS HE SAID BUT I JUST DONT THINK HE HAS THE HATE IN HIS HEART IF YOU LISTENED TO HIM AS LONG AS I HAVE YOU KNOW HE ISNT ANYTHING LIKE HIS RADIO PERSONALITY IN REAL LIFE AND THE DUDES DOESNT HAVE THAT TYPE OF HATE IN HIM. IF HE REALLY HATED BLACKS DO YOU THINK ROBIN WOULD STILL BE AS GOOD FRIENDS WITH HIM AS SHE IS ( I MEAN OK MAYBE YOU COULD SAY SHE WAS AN AUNT TOM OR WHATEVER BEFORE BUT THAT BITCH IS STRAIGHT UP PAID NOW SHE DONT NEED HOWARD SHE CAN FFED HER GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDKIDS FROM THE MONEY SHE HAS SO WHY WOULD SHE STILL PUT UP WITH IT IF SHE FELT HE WAS THAT RACIST ( AND THIS IS SOMEONE WHO CLEARLY KNOWS HIM BETTER THAN ANY OF US. )

    ALSO BECK IS RIGHT YOU CAN MAKE ANYTYPE OF JOKES ABOUT WHITEY, BUT UNLESS YOUR TALKING ABOUT A BLACK GUY HAVING A BIGGER DICK THAN YOU A WHITE GUY CANT TELL A GOOD CLEAN RACIAL INFLUENCED JOKES WITHOUT BEING RACIST.

  53. CCR Says:

    i’m white and have never been even remotely offended by chappelle, he speaks the truth.

    unlike mencia who thinks he does, that motherfucker’s racist.

    discuss.

  54. nation of thugacation Says:

    eskay i see what you mean about egypt’s IQ.. just reading through her myspace, lol jokes i use to make when i was a kid (99 years old… hobbies: drug.. NO IM KIDDING DONT GO SPREADING RUMOURS)

    but still, i like my girls dumb, makes it easier on me and i look smarter
    ^lol

  55. Kev Says:

    Its funny reading all this backlash from people who listen to hiphop where the degrate women, glorify the use of guns and the selling of drugs. Please whos going to take anything a person involved in hiphop serious about what they think of what Star said when you buy music that says things just as worse. Our black youth are a LOST GENERATION and its sad. P.S. try listening to a Jezzy Album or 50cent album infront of your 4year olds then! LOL

  56. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Whether yout take what this Star nigga said out of context, in context or whatever, he still said he was gonna R Kelly someone’s kid’s head at 9 in the morning. You can’t even say ‘shit’ on the radio in the UK until after 9pm so regardless this nigga woulda been kicked out the door a long time ago in the UK. But you gotta question the average intelligence of the American listener, this nigga would’nt even be gettin air play if it was’nt for the listeners who wanted him on. What does that say about the general intelligence and attitude of the average American? I ain’t tryin to hate, I got love for my American brethren especially the Yorkers, big up my nigga Sharief in BK, but you gotta ask the question.

  57. Kev Says:

    Whether yout take what this Star nigga said out of context, in context or whatever, he still said he was gonna R Kelly someone’s kid’s head at 9 in the morning. You can’t even say ’shit’ on the radio in the UK until after 9pm so regardless this nigga woulda been kicked out the door a long time ago in the UK. But you gotta question the average intelligence of the American listener, this nigga would’nt even be gettin air play if it was’nt for the listeners who wanted him on. What does that say about the general intelligence and attitude of the average American? I ain’t tryin to hate, I got love for my American brethren especially the Yorkers, big up my nigga Sharief in BK, but you gotta ask the question.

    Stupid if you haven’t heard the show before and just base it all on one incident then your just as stupid. I’ll be stupid to say that all they do at soccer matches in your contry is fight and chase referees right? So atleast study the show then make your judgement. But hey I do agree that some of the intelect of the Americans sometimes should be questioned.

  58. EnglandRepresent Says:

    Kev : While I appreciate what you’re sayin, I was talkin bout this particular incident as an isolated incident because as I stated we do not get this show in the UK so this is all I have to base my opinion on. And I gotta say Kev, regardless of whether i heard his radio show’s before or not, sayin you gonna R Kelly someone’s seed is fuckin ridiculous to me. I don’t know how you can’t agree with me on that son, I think to label me ‘stupid’ cos I called this Star nigga a bitch is out of order. Anyone would look at the transcript of what he said and say this nigga bitch and need to get beat the fuck down. And by the way you’b be rioght if you thought all we do at football matches is fight, cos every Saturday it kicks off but the referees remain unharassed. How come you don’t think I got a point Kev?

  59. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    @tybig…kid yourself if you want…gary the retard? Eric the midget?
    you call that a career i’ll call it exploitation…some people would consider midget tossing a job…and though i have not met stern I know his type when a white person “works” the word nigger into a convo in front of black people believe they get exxtra reckless with it when they are in private
    Btw Fuck stern…howard stern, david stern and anyboby with a stern look on their face

  60. bxconnect Says:

    the fact anyone can defend star shows the world we live in.talk about raping my seeds, yes because thats just about what this bitch said,and theres going to be bloodshed.i would die for mines,kill for mines starve for mines,and there girls.little woman.shit bloodshed,war real talk.

  61. D. Billz Says:

    “Btw Fuck stern…howard stern, david stern and anyboby with a stern look on their face”

    ^Lol.

  62. D. Billz Says:

    I know the reason why they hired Star blah blah blah and the demographic of his audience blah blah blah and that you have to be a regular listener to understand his humor blah blah blah… all of these are great points indeed, but totally irrelevant to this situation.

    When the seed is involved in such utter discust, then so are the laced Timbs and expensive medical bills. Period.

  63. eskay Says:

    what bxconnect said

  64. nyp Says:

    stop making excuses for this clown. his comments have always been vile. why people waste their time listening to this is beyond me. corporate radio pretends to be shocked at such antics but they make big money off it. just say no to corporate radio.

  65. UrMans&Thems Says:

    Ur man in the picture looks like Braxton from the Jamie Fox show with his chin checking.

  66. huh.what.youth Says:

    tyronebiggums:
    O ESKAY I AGREE NO DOUBT, AND SOME WHITE COMICS WILL CROSS THE LINE INTO NOT EVEN FUNNY JUST MEAN AND HATEFILLED, THATS THE LINE STAR CROSSED AND THATS THE LINE I CANT EVER REMEMBER HEARING HOWARD CROSS, NOW OBVIOUSLY IVE MISSED PLENTY OF THE THINGS HE SAID BUT I JUST DONT THINK HE HAS THE HATE IN HIS HEART IF YOU LISTENED TO HIM AS LONG AS I HAVE YOU KNOW HE ISNT ANYTHING LIKE HIS RADIO PERSONALITY IN REAL LIFE AND THE DUDES DOESNT HAVE THAT TYPE OF HATE IN HIM. IF HE REALLY HATED BLACKS DO YOU THINK ROBIN WOULD STILL BE AS GOOD FRIENDS WITH HIM AS SHE IS ( I MEAN OK MAYBE YOU COULD SAY SHE WAS AN AUNT TOM OR WHATEVER BEFORE BUT THAT BITCH IS STRAIGHT UP PAID NOW SHE DONT NEED HOWARD SHE CAN FFED HER GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDKIDS FROM THE MONEY SHE HAS SO WHY WOULD SHE STILL PUT UP WITH IT IF SHE FELT HE WAS THAT RACIST ( AND THIS IS SOMEONE WHO CLEARLY KNOWS HIM BETTER THAN ANY OF US. )

    I really wish that people would stop defending exploitative sexist racists by saying they have black female friends. There could be a host of reasons that she stays around, and most of them probably involve money, or perhaps racism doesn’t bother her. I don’t see him as a genius, I see him as someone appealing to the lowest and basest type of humor. Regardless of whether he employs “Retarded” people, the fact remains that they can’t really give their consent or understand the implications of what happens to them.

    I’m sure the guys who played Amos and Andy “yessired” there bosses too.

    I think the problem is, some young people don’t actually understand what racism is, and what is racist. They think that racism is burning a cross in someone’s yard, but don’t realize that the reason a white man should never say nigger, flip, chink, wetback or nigga or any variation is because the histories of people of color in this country are not the same as white people. You have a 500 year headstart and history of the denigration of a lot of people of color in this country and you want to all of a sudden forget that that history has lead to the reason why it is the way it is today.

    We’re not equal. So why try to measure the shit in equal terms. The way that Howard Stern will be treated vs. the way that Howardelle Jones will be treated in this country is not the same, even minus the shit. If they want to use the word they can, as soon as they start living the reality.

    So, no, it’s not okay for white people to say nigga. Why should they even want to say it? What is the reason for saying it? Is it because it’s so taboo? White people and black people do not have the same history in this country. I would liken it to throwing rocks. If the people on the bottom throw rocks up, does it hurt as much as people throwing the rocks down? If you understand that people of color in this country are at the bottom, and white people are at the top in terms of power. Their rocks hurt a lot more, than our rocks.

    ALSO BECK IS RIGHT YOU CAN MAKE ANYTYPE OF JOKES ABOUT WHITEY, BUT UNLESS YOUR TALKING ABOUT A BLACK GUY HAVING A BIGGER DICK THAN YOU A WHITE GUY CANT TELL A GOOD CLEAN RACIAL INFLUENCED JOKES WITHOUT BEING RACIST.

    You should be able to make jokes about white people, every group of people of color in this country should be able to make fun of white people. All of them. White people are not sacred cows, the joke has been on people of color for too long. Yes, I’ll stand behind my native/first nation brothers as they talk about Generokees, and my asians as they make fun of how white boys break their necks to get to asian women, andlatinos (not mencia god damned jerk). These are people who have traditionally been at the bottom. What’s funny about people in power making fun of people not in power. There’s an unequal power dynamic there. If this were a schoolyard fight, how many people would be behind the bully?

    On the Star situation, this is a horrible way to try and explain away what he did. Regardless of context, he shouldn’t have said it. It doesn’t matter the point that he was trying to make, because it’s based on audience interpretation and there are very few ways an audience could interpret anything else other than racial slurs and saying you want to ejaculate on someone’s kid. So I call bullshit.

  67. empte eyes Says:

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH

    REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE SAID AS WACK OR IGNORANT AS IT MAY BE, WE LIVE IN A FREE SOCIETY AND ONCE YOU ACCEPT PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR WORDS OUT THEY MOUTH, THATS NOT FREE. CHAPPELLE COULD BE LOCKED UP FOR THE SAME SHIT. WHAT CRIME DID STAR COMMIT? HE TALKED ABOUT IT.
    IF THEY GONNA SEND HIM DOWN THEN EVERYBODY IN THE GAME WHO TALKS ABOUT CRIME CAN BE SENT DOWN TOO. 50, EMINEM,DRE,ICE T, SCHOOLY D, ETC.
    LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS IS AN ATTACK ON OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.AN A ATTACK ON THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY, FEDS SAYING SHUT YOUR MOUTH BITCH.

  68. huh.what.youth Says:

    THATS SOME REAL TALK THERE, CHAPPELLE MAKES WHITE JOKES ITS ALL GOOD AND STERN MAKES SOME BLACK JOKES BUT HE DOESNT HAVE A SERIOUS RACIAL TONE BEHIND WHAT HE SAYS AND IM A HUGE CHAPPELLE FAN DONT GET ME WRONG BUT HE HAS MADE SOME SKETCHES AND JOKES THAT COULD BE CRAZY OFFENSIVE TO WHITE PEOPLE

    That’s not real talk, that’s universalist bullshit. We’re not all equal, and we should stop pretending like what black people, latino people, or asian people do when talking about white people is the same thing as what white people do when talking about people of color. It’s not. It’s a damn shame that we’re teaching kids this in school.

    We’re not all equal. It does not have the same power dynamic. People of color are the minorities, less than 30-35% of the population. Plus, the intention of a white comic making the racial draft sketch… totally different from Dave Chapelle making it. So it’s not the same at all, stop comparing it.

  69. huh.what.youth Says:

    Err empte, Star is not the hip hop community. He’s some guy who made some ridiculously janky remarks with a radio show. It’s his first amendment right to sasy ridiculous shit, and it’s the state/city’s right to take him to task for the shit. You can say what you want, but you have to be responsible for it after you say it.

  70. E From BK Says:

    A picture speaks a thousand words. Look at how proud he is! The question is, “What is he proud of?” Is he proud to have said some foul shit about another man’s wife and seed? Is he proud that he is getting arrested and now he is considered “real?” Really, what is there to be proud of?

  71. funkdigi Says:

    Out of context it does sound bad. However, having enjoyed the show for some years it saddens me that dude had to go that low. All I got to listen to in the morning now is sports radio.

  72. Justo Says:

    YALL MUST NOT KNOW ABOUT CEDRIC MUHAMMAD,he is smart but is the biggest STAR ApOLOGIST and suck up on the internet!

  73. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    So, no, it’s not okay for white people to say nigga. Why should they even want to say it? What is the reason for saying it? Is it because it’s so taboo? White people and black people do not have the same history in this country. I would liken it to throwing rocks. If the people on the bottom throw rocks up, does it hurt as much as people throwing the rocks down? If you understand that people of color in this country are at the bottom, and white people are at the top in terms of power. Their rocks hurt a lot more, than our rocks.

    i wont ever argue that if you ever seen me on here you would know i hate that word even when spoken from a black man/woman i just honestly dont think howard stern has malicious hateful intent when he uses it i still think its wrong i just dont think he grasps the reality of it like you do and others do but thats my feeling i get from listening to him for the past 10-15 years

    You should be able to make jokes about white people, every group of people of color in this country should be able to make fun of white people. All of them. White people are not sacred cows, the joke has been on people of color for too long. Yes, I’ll stand behind my native/first nation brothers as they talk about Generokees, and my asians as they make fun of how white boys break their necks to get to asian women, andlatinos (not mencia god damned jerk). These are people who have traditionally been at the bottom. What’s funny about people in power making fun of people not in power. There’s an unequal power dynamic there. If this were a schoolyard fight, how many people would be behind the bully?

    now you need to start living in the year 2006 yea ok whitey did some fucked up shit years ago but most whitey’s dont have the hate you think they do. and to think that its ok for anyone to make fun of whites cause of what the WHITE DEVIL has done over time is bullshit, very few white people alive today had anything to do with enslaving blacks so you cant put it on them, so because of that everyone can make white jokes but a white guy CANT under no circumstances make a joke about any other race ? listen in comedy they have this saying if one thing is ok to talk about by one person then anything can be talked about by anyone, you cant decide you will purposely avoid offending a certin race.

    why dont you also have this talk with chris rock you know how many white people think its ok to say nigger cause chris rock had a whole speech about there are black people and there are niggers i love black people but man i hate niggers. so now you got this whole white audience thinking he is right and that its ok for them. you got to take a look in the mirror everynow and then and stop blaming WHITEY for holding us back the thought of having something holding you back, in fact holds you back.

    also l.p.crooks – you clearly dont listen to howard, you clearly havent heard the love and affection gary and wendy the retard show howard they would be nothing without him, they are from poor families and yea he uses their misfortune to his benefit but trust me the all get taken care of

  74. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    That’s not real talk, that’s universalist bullshit. We’re not all equal, and we should stop pretending like what black people, latino people, or asian people do when talking about white people is the same thing as what white people do when talking about people of color. It’s not. It’s a damn shame that we’re teaching kids this in school.

    We’re not all equal. It does not have the same power dynamic. People of color are the minorities, less than 30-35% of the population. Plus, the intention of a white comic making the racial draft sketch… totally different from Dave Chapelle making it. So it’s not the same at all, stop comparing it

    so you dont think its possible for a white guy to make black jokes without hate behind it, black people are untouchable on a comdey level? no either everything ok to talk about or nothing is. stop talking about us not being equal i just saw a commercial on t.v. late last night about one of the guys from sugarhill gangs son’s sweet 16 party and the kids running around throwing bling everywhere talking how pimped he is you dont think he is an equal, what about justin combs, how bout my cousin who lives in one of the richest towns in the 3rd richest county in america my uncle is PAID and my cousins are defintely treated like equals out there ive seen it with my own eyes, yea they say the face some ignorance everywhere but so whites are still ignorant and some blacks are still ignorant. race isnt an issue its the IGNORANCE thats the problem and your IGNORANCE is only helping add to the problem

    also how can you say that the intentions of a white comic anything how can you know what his intentions are are you in his head? well everyone of those skteches from the chappelle show were written by one black guy and one white guy and guess what they find the same exact things hilarious, so all the jokes on the show were written by half black and half WHITEY so the intentions of neil brenner in the racial draft were exactly the same as dave’s so guess that just destroyed your logic but im sure it wont help cure your ignorance so im done with you your not worth my time and energy may god have mercy on your soul ( *disclaimer im not specifying which god but which everyone you believe in may they have mercy on your soul )

  75. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    THAT ETHER WILL MAKE YOUR SOUL BURN SLOW

  76. huh.what.youth Says:

    I am living in the year 2006, and I know it probably upsets you to hear this because one of your parents is white. But white people absolutely do still have the fear in their hearts that they used to, it just manifested in a different way now. I’m really tired of kids who think that just because their heritage says otherwise and they learned about the civil rights movement that this shit is over. It’s not over. Hello, white people have been sleeping with people of color for the last 500 years and racism still hasn’t ended. I should know, I’m half tsalgi-half black and that doesn’t mean that neither of my parent’s families are prejudiced and that even my mom and dad don’t have their own prejudices.

    I do considerable anti-racist work and it’s not that black people are untouchable in comedy. It’s that the power dynamic in this country is unbelievable. It’s not the fucked up things that whitey did do, it’s the fucked up things that they are currently doing and that we as a people are allowing to happen because we’re starting to believe that everything is equal when it’s not. We’re buying into colorblind rhetoric and not critically thinking about why the way things are the way they are right now.

    It’s not a bout enslaving blacks, but I’ll tell you what crack open a history books. Because there are whites today who believe in lynching people, there are whites today who red-lined districts so that people of color couldn’t buy houses and they still do, there are whites today who racially profile and run our legal system, there are whites today who are unrepetant covert racists, there are whites today who reaped the gains of the G.I. bills but who hate affirmative actions. There are whites today who clutch their purses as we walk by on the street. There are whites today who want to know why they can say nigga when it was less than 40 years ago that we were getting beaten over the head with that word. That’s in my mom’s lifetime. So it’s not about slavery. In my mother’s lifetime and she is only 41, there have been enough reasons besides slavery to recognize that yes we live in a white supremacist country. There are whites today who are in our government who spin statistics and figures to hide the poverty in their and our neighborhoods. There are whites who talk about playing the race card. All of these happen under a system of racism and racism isn’t just slavery or burning crosses on people’s yards. Racism is institutionalized. I don’t know how I can help you understand that. This isn’t an angry diatribe, I’m sitting here completely calm. I asked my husband last night what I could do to help our children (people of color of all racial groups) understand history and how it’s not about what’s happening 150 years ago, it’s what’s happening then that has paved the way for the way the country is now.

    And I’m going to link you to a couple of articles from white anti-racists who understand this. It’s not about what white people intend to do, it’s about what they do and how it affects people of color. I don’t hate white people, that’s the thing. I’m married to a white person, but I understand completely that we do not have the same power in this society. I see it everytime I go out, everytime people defer to us, in every overtly racist thing that happens when we’re out together, and the covert racism. The same way that I understand that being a woman, people refer to me differently then they would if I were a man.

    There are categories of racism
    passive/active/aversive/coversive and how could they not be racist when being racist in a country that is steeped in racism? I’d be the first to admit that if I were white and fed as much propaganda with little to no contact with people of color then yes I would be racist. I don’t think you understand the term racism as I am using it.

    So here you go, and please tell me you visited these links and read them:
    This is an essay on the race card.
    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/whatcard.html

    This is an essay on the pathology of America
    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/palepathology.html

    Oh hell: Just go through the whole archive
    http://www.timwise.org

    I’m talking about a whole framework, you’re talking about “individual white folks” and I feel those individual white folks make up a framework and you’re advocating that framework because it is what we have all been raised with.

    P.S. I really do not like Chris Rock or his comedy. I feel that he is tremendously self-deprecating and I do not advocate his niggers vs. black folk, or any of his other sexist/classist/and just shitty comedy routines. However, he lived that reality, and people usually write what they know, and that’s what he knew and lived, even I disagree with the way it’s presented.

  77. huh.what.youth Says:

    so you dont think its possible for a white guy to make black jokes without hate behind it, black people are untouchable on a comdey level? no either everything ok to talk about or nothing is. stop talking about us not being equal i just saw a commercial on t.v. late last night about one of the guys from sugarhill gangs son’s sweet 16 party and the kids running around throwing bling everywhere talking how pimped he is you dont think he is an equal, what about justin combs, how bout my cousin who lives in one of the richest towns in the 3rd richest county in america my uncle is PAID and my cousins are defintely treated like equals out there ive seen it with my own eyes, yea they say the face some ignorance everywhere but so whites are still ignorant and some blacks are still ignorant. race isnt an issue its the IGNORANCE thats the problem and your IGNORANCE is only helping add to the problem

    Actually, I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. It’s possible for them to make the jokes but the intent behind the jokes will not be the same. It doesn’t matter if Dave and Neil wrote the comedy sketches together, in the end Dave realized that the sketches weren’t helping they were hurting, because the audience didn’t understand who the joke was on.

    That’s the thing, no I don’t think capitalism makes us all equal. We shouldn’t want a piece of that pie because we should realize that the pie is poisonous. I don’t think that kids walking around with bling makes us equal. I know plenty of kids in the ghetto with bling who are equal. I am talking about the treatment of everyday groups of people. I am talking about systematic classism/racism/sexism and you’re pointing to examples of people who now have the right to wear blood diamonds and hang out with white kids if they want to. No, that does not equal equality to me and how does his “equality” translate into the equality of a young black family trying to get a loan is more than twice as likely to be turned down even when they have the same amount of credit? That is a systematic injustice.

    You’re talking about how now we can stunt and that’s equality and it’s not. I’m not ignorant, but I understand that my views are not ones that people come across on a daily. Like I said, I’m a radiacal anti-racist feminist and when people hear that you believe in something called white privilege or that you believe that the majority of people here have the majority benefits (even though that makes complete sense), they get a little bit uneasy. I’m okay with that tyrone.

    also how can you say that the intentions of a white comic anything how can you know what his intentions are are you in his head?

    I can’t say what is in a white comic’s head, but I can say that even if their intentions were the same it’s not the same. It doesn’t matter if we’re both laughing at the same thing, we’re laughing at them for different reasons. Dave Chappelle realized that, it’s one of the reasons he walked away from the show.

    It didn’t just destroy my logic and it makes me sad to think that this is kind of what political discourse is at in our country. It’s about domination instead of about listening. I listened to your arguments, even though I’ve heard them all before from young kids who believe that we’re all really equal, but it’s because they are removed from the life that other people have to live. White people have it hard, but you know what even when the playing field is level they still will be considered moreso than a latino or black person. The majority will always hire the majority. When the population shifts of there being more people of color than white people (latino presumably, even though some latinos are white), we’ll see a new sort of majority dynamic emerge. If we were going to point to anecdotal evidence, my husband works in a place where he makes more than all people of color and all women doing the same job. He knows that he receives special benefits because people perceive him to be more competant because he is a white male.

    But if we want to play statistical and factual evidence, I’d point you here:

    Wages and Labor
    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/excusesexcuses1.html

    Criminal Justice
    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/excusesexcusescjs.html

    Housing
    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/excusesexcuses3.html

    So, it’s not about how your family or my family may be middle class, it’s about how the families of others in a racist/classist/sexist society are treated. It’s about everyone. All of us, not just those of us with money, who can point to their bling. All of us. I care about every last one of us, inside this country and abroad, black/yellow/red/brown/white. Everyone.

    I think it’s also pretty nifty that he wrote something about the use of the N-word which you can find here, and I’d completely forgotten about that. http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/DoubleStandard.html

    In conclusion, I don’t like the N word, but I don’t use it myself. I hear people call themselves chinks, flips, and spics, but I don’t say it because it’s not my reality. It’s not for me to say. I don’t feel that I’m being robbed of the right to say it, and that it’s an impugning on my right to free speech.

    I forgot to mention that it’s not just about black people and what they did. As I stated before, being half tsalgi, ask a native born in the 70s how white people (a system, of insititutionalized racism) took their children and placed them with white families because they weren’t fit enough to raise them (and how those people as adults are coping with that now)? Ask how they sterilized native women (and black and latino women)? Ask about how even now we can’t not see our faces as mascots as people walk around “woo wooing” and dressing up like us for halloween. As people are convinced that we don’t pay taxes and all have casinos. So it ain’t about what happened 150 years ago, it’s about what’s happening right now to all my people under a system of capitalism and majority American racism.

  78. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    @tybig yeah homey you right i dont listen to howard…anymore… because i refuse to contribute to his degradation of human beings…and far as affection… hoes have tremendous affection for their pimps and profess to love them and the pimp will speak up for them and defend them…but at the end of the day they are still being exploited by a lowlife…real talk

  79. tyronebiggums Says:

    you really got you perception of howard way off. first off you need to understand on air he is the exact oppisite of how he really is that was his idea. when on air he is a character and to compare his and robins relationship to a pimp and hoe is a bit derogitory and offensive on your part. robin knows howard better than any of us. maybe she just doesn’t care or whatever but shes a smart women who wouldn’t play along with him if she really felt he was what you say he is and like I’ve said I’ve been listening to him for years and never found him himself to be racial offensive but I have seen plenty os people spread racism on the show but they talk about all races. you realize how much he makes fun of jews ? he is jewish you know how much fun off himself he makes. he is about laughter and comdey trying to lighten the mood.

    ‘ don’t take life to seriously, you’ll never make it out alive ‘ van wilder

  80. D. Billz Says:

    Look what I found…

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  81. tyronebiggums Says:

    o yea sorry.

    write that down

  82. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    Damn homey I wasnt sayin that he is pimpin robin…It was just a metaphor for the social predator that he is (His character)

    “Dont you know that niggaz get smoked
    that take their life for a joke” Ice Cube

  83. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    @ tybig^

  84. Engineer Says:

    Star is not a stupid man….Do you really think he didn’t have a plan. How better to gt out aof a contract than to pull some shit like that….The satelit companies are hollerin at him now…He knew it. He will have more freedom and more money…the dud is not stupid…Fuck envy, that was easy….

  85. e-double Says:

    Star is a leader. Howard Stern wanna be never. Coward Stern is a wanna be himself.

  86. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    a wanna be what?^

  87. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    L.P.CROOKS Says:

    May 16th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
    Damn homey I wasnt sayin that he is pimpin robin…It was just a metaphor for the social predator that he is (His character)

    no doubt homie but again what he is, like youve seemed to agree with is his radio personality is a chracter did you see his interview on 60 minutes?
    that might teach you alittle bit more about what his real person is like. also he is a huge supporter of free speech and so somes times he likes to push things but again its to appeal to his massive audience but i also dont really find much of what he does offensive, he even treats women good for the most oart i mean he gives them oppurtunity believe it or not he isnt forcing the girls to do shit, they want to be there and if you listen he is nice to the girls its the others that tend to get alittle crazy but its all ENTERTAINMENT its like a movie on radio

  88. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    e-double Says:

    May 16th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
    Star is a leader. Howard Stern wanna be never. Coward Stern is a wanna be himself.

    L.P.CROOKS Says:

    May 16th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
    a wanna be what?^

    exactky on that one l.p.

    star is a leader how by directing people to tell them where a 4 year old girl goes to school so he can skeet in her face thats where your trying to be led to ? damn you lost find another path your cleary headed in the wrong direction

  89. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    what up tybig here we go again…”he doesnt force them to do it?”…”he is giving them opportunity to get bread?”…sounds just like a pimp to me
    in real life homey i think u are a bit idealistic in the way that u find it hard to believe that a person coud be so vile (racist,sexist,exploitive,if thats a word) I used to think like that until reality rodney-kingeded me into consciousness

  90. joel randell Says:

    cedric muhammad hit the nail right on the head. star is a satirist. that’s well said. if you take him seriously, well that’s on you. you’re supposed to be laughing at least. and at best, a little bit mad at yourself for laughing. like dave chappelle. people need to recognize comedians when they see them. because, damn, richard pryor was the best who ever did it, and he said a whole lot worse.

  91. huh.what.youth Says:

    L.P. Crooks, that’s exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it a lot more succinctly and without the history lesson. He sounds extremely idealistic to me, but I really hope he is allowed to stay that way. Getting Rodney Kinged into consciousness is a hell of a way to get there.

    Also, exploitive is a word.

  92. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    @ huh..what.youth….thats rodney kinged “ded”…LOL…dont trip I enjoyed the history lesson (actually followed the links) Hope u stick around

  93. omeshoppin Says:

    Star’s was a goodish show,especially if you are black and want to hear some decent edgy morning commentary and comedy without the fake ironic targeting of blacks (which is what Howard Stern does way too much and Robin is painfully silent and needs to step up some for the history books to leave a good account of her role in the show) But if he (Star) does go to satelite hopefully he can get more widely known names than Wynton Marsalis on his show. As for the comments, I didnt hear that actual show, but if he did actually offer $500 for information on Envy’s family then he was playing with fire cos there are some hungry and sick effers out there who might just do whatever thinking that the offer of $500 was for real.

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