Ghostface: F*ck New York

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The following is an excerpt from a new Ghostface interview over at Prefixmag.

Lately you and many other East Coast artists have been criticizing Southern hip-hop, in particular songs such as “Laffy Taffy.”

Ghostface Killah: Man, that’s all y’all be talking about lately.

Playing devil’s advocate, do you think it’s because New York is jealous it lost the hip-hop crown?

Ghostface Killah: New York lost the crown because the New York deejays gave the crown away for some fucking money. New York be bullshitting. Right know, I say fuck New York. Yeah, I’m from New York, but fuck New York. Because niggas is pussy. They is so quick to jump on the next man’s dick and can’t even deal with what they got in front of they face.

That’s why I respect other states, man. New York, I don’t know — for some reason we started to get really soft. And now we act like we want that real hip-hop back, when our fucking deejays is only programmed to play what they playing. They playing more other people’s shit than our own shit. Niggas is screaming that real hip-hop — we trying to bring it back but we can’t even play that real hip-hop on the radio.

I knew New York was wack when they shot my man Amadou Diallo forty-one fucking times and ain’t nobody stand up. But if that shit happen in L.A. somewhere, they would have went to bat for Amadou Diallo. It would have been hell. Stores getting burnt the fuck up. New York don’t stand for nothing. They say if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything. But we mad at ourselves and can’t even get our shit right. When you look at them other niggas’ videos, they popping off and having fun in there. We can’t even have fun amongst each other in New York. That’s why I say fuck New York. That’s real talk coming from Ghostface Killah.

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220 Responses to “Ghostface: F*ck New York”

  1. Blue Says:

    He makes a good point.

  2. Darth Cipher Says:

    makes you think huh… im a fan of the ghost, but how you gunna say fuck new york and get angry at the fact that new york isnt unified… you just adding to the problem… i havent read the whole thing yet, and maybe that’ll change my view, but for real man, if you want your city/set/community to grow you cant say fuck it, cause its oxi-moronic

  3. BronxRap.com Says:

    I mean I feel dude.The dj’s are programmed.But I also say that there are alot of N.Y rappers hittin right now as well.We just need to step the beats up a lil bit…Nah fuck it we need to step the tracks up alot.Like I kinda feel when nas comez thru wit his shit it’s gonna be some shit where most of the beats are garbage and his flow will just be regular.I went out and bought Ghost’s album(2 support his movement) and I threw it out the window on the way home(True Story).I’m sorry to say I dig Ghost but this new album was trash…And it wasnt his lyrics..it was the topics he chose to discuss(drugs,drugs,and more drugs) and his tracks which where less than poor.So do you think I’m gonna buy his shit again….proly not…Unless he comes with some illmatic shit.I don’t fuck wit downsouth cus it aint my swagger but I dont knock dem niggas for doin them.Fuck it lets all run up in Def Jam and Interscope wit the burners out and demand they put us back on the map!!!!!!!

  4. Spanish jay Says:

    “For the love of money, people will rob from each other
    For the love of money, people will steal from their mother
    For the love of money, people will kill their own brother..”

  5. L.P.CROOKS Says:

    truth be told this is the same frustration that other regions was feelin for years while NY had a strangle hold on the game

  6. Darth Cipher Says:

    i cant say i agree with you not liking the album, cause i thought its was a wu banger(how can you not like R.A.G.U.) buit your overall message i get…

    @crooks thats real talk too, but at least when new york was in control it was pure lyricist and for the love of hip hop you know what i mean

  7. bo0st yAa Says:

    Im feelin what ghostface is saying. He meant it like all the djs nowadays especially on the radios are just playing whatever commercial shit w/a hot beat is thrown at them. Coincidentally most of those joints are not lyrical and emphasize catchy instrumentals w/weak rhymes ala 50 cent and dem franchize boys. Ghostface is 100% right. And who better to talk about the current state of depression of NY hip hop then an accomplished vet in the game like Ghost.

  8. MaddenMaster Says:

    Dude is 100% on point and yall young haters need to grow up!!!! and I can say that because I buy everybody shit……. NYers are killen NY FUCKEN HATERS…

    http://www.hiphopgame.com/player.php?id=814

  9. BBN2 Says:

    I second BronxRap.com that nigga album was garbage as fuck! He sound like a nigga who ain’t movin no units. He made interesting point regarding the dude who got shot an nobody got active. Takes me back to the 92 riots which is the closest thing to a revolution we’ll have for min. I doubt that will ever happen again n no state because they don’t make niggas like they use to no guts! no glory! I still could’nt diss my hometown though at least not to the public. That’s not a good career move. To me it ain’t about no coast East,West,Midwest, or South none of that shit is irrelevent. If ur dope ur dope period! Truth of the matter a lot of nigga got spit can eat a nigga  on some battle shit but them the same niggas who can’t put a album together that’s worth listenin too. Than u got those mediocre flow nggas that know how to place shit together like pieces of a puzzle ya dig!The government,money,an police run the world. Dj’s gotta eat too it’s a job to them so of course they gon get that paper when they can. I feel no matter what if you got that dope product no one can stop u from shining. If your shit hot they can’t help but fuck wit u Ghost shit ain’t hot. Plus it don’t help none when niggas is bred to hate each other n every way possible there’s no unified front. Think about how much hate an frivolous comments is issued out on this website on a regular. No disrespect Eskay, I’m jus keepin it G my nigga! When anybody hates on the next man when his shit ain’t poppin makes u look jus like that much more of a failure ya dig!

  10. Filth Says:

    Ghostface for President!

  11. chillson Says:

    that method man joint under maddenmasters name is a crazy joint, its on point with a nice ass hook

  12. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    Ghostface should
    Ghostride the whip!!!!!!!!!
    Ghostride the Whip!!!!!!!!

    Does my Favorite Two Dj’s Fall Into That Category ?

    The drama King & The Peoples Choice ?

  13. green eyed bandit Says:

    im sick in bed with the lack of coherency to my thoughts but ima try to put my two cents in here…

    Being a radio and club dj some of Ghosts remarks intrigue me. Typically there is a person who programs the shows at a radio station other the the djs. This could be one person who programs the playlist of one show at a station, one person who programs all the shows at a station, or a group of people that together program a large number of stations that are all owned by the same corporation. Whatever the case may be radio stations have someone that takes care of this so upper managment has control over whats happening on air. From my experience this is the case at almost all commercial stations, however to be fair I dont know how the stations ghost is aiming at do there operations so I cant speak from first hand knowledge when it comes to how they do it.

    Still, I would be surprised if flex has 100% control over what gets played on his show. Another way to think of it is like this. If the top 5 songs in the nation are all south songs dont you think flex’s managers are going to pressure him to play those songs for the sake of ratings which equals dollar signs from advertisements?

    Whereas the exception to this can be found in college and commercial free stations that tend to steer clear of the top 40 charts. the stretch and bobbito show (RIP) on WKCR 89.9 is a prime example. Those dudes spun whatever the hell they wanted, because they had total control of the show, regardless of where it was from so long as its dope. which brings me to my next point…..

    I completely agree with bronxrap that quality needs to be stepped up. I think it needs to be stepped up everywhere not just NY but since we are on the subject NY could use steppin it up too. I was looking forward to the new Ghost album but after that was released I cannot tell you what NY hiphop album I am really waiting for next. I remember a time when there was one release every two months or less that I HAD to get from NY artists. memories, memories…..(im near chicago by the way)

    Too much garbage. everyone gots protools, everyone makes beats, everyones a dj, everyone raps. its too easy now. When I think of hiphop right now I think there is too much mediocracy for sure. Thats why I steady listen to the classics. Got stunts, blunts, and hiphop in my computer right now.

  14. T. Okes Says:

    chillson you weren’t lyin’. Madden good look on that link. That’s some real talk from Meth. I’m feelin’ L-Boog on the hook too. I know a lotta shit on verse one is what’s been on some of our minds.

    I feel what Ghost is sayin’ too, but thing is, cats need to make their albums worth buyin’. Haven’t heard much of Fishscale, so I won’t speak on that…but if NY wants the #1 spot back, they gotta collectively put out some fire and make the industry conform to them, not vice versa. I’m not even gonna lie, I don’t feel 85% of dirty South music, but that’s just my preference. And deep down, I know I can’t hate on the next man for makin’ his doe. Word @ what BBN2 said too.

  15. MaddenMaster Says:

    MY MAN METH IS BACK!!!!!

    SHOW THAT NIGGA SOME LOVE HATERS!!!!

    GO BUY HIS SHIT YOU FUCKEN LAMES….

  16. Benzino Says:

    i would buy his cd, but i am about to be bankrupt soon….

  17. MaddenMaster Says:

    50 SAYS THAT SHIT AND FUCK THE HOOD AND HE A VILLIAN

    BUT

    GHOST SAY THAT SHIT AND ITS “GHOST FOR PRESIDENT”

    I’M AN EAST COASTER SO I’M GONE BUY EVERYTHING EAST COAST EVEN JADA AND JOE!!!!!

    “NIGGAS TRYING TO SAY I LOST MY SKILL, WHEN IN FACT THEY BEEN PROGRAMED AND LOST THEY FEEL”

    “THEY TRYING TO TELL YOU MY SHIT AINT GHETTO AND THEY HARDLY HOOD”

    MY DUDE METH ON POINT….

    AND I BOUGHT THE LAST ALBUM!!!

  18. BBN2 Says:

    @Green eyed Bandit now that I think about ur absolutely  as far as the playlist go. A relative of mine Dj’s for a radio station outhere n L.A. An I’ve went with him a couple of times  to tha station when he’s doin his slot. There b lil piece of paper with the songs he supposed to play an the order he supposed to play it n. With that said niggas need to invest n there on radio stations instead of buyin all that jewelry,cars, an trickin on these hoes. Em got shade 45 etc an they pump out that street shit that don’t make mainstream radio if I’m not mistaken.

  19. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    Can we say Classic ?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5WND85vHCs

  20. T Nelson Says:

    Totaly off subject but remember when this was hip hop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5btqEdt6gU

  21. MaddenMaster Says:

    YO WHEN THE FUCK DID NAHRIGHT.COM BECOME A FUCKEN YOUTUBE SITE??? WHAT THE FUCK…. IF YOU WANT TO POST ON SHIT YOU FOUND ON YOUTUBE GO TO THE FUCKEN YOU TUBE BOARD…. ITS LIKE 50 FUCKEN YOUTUBE POST TODAY….. I’M NOT TRYING TO GET USED TO THAT

  22. E From BK Says:

    Mediocrity runs the industry! These radio programmers are the worst pieces of shit ever. Here in Atlanta every so often there are discussions on the radio about the state of Hip Hop. Everytime these program directors try and defend the choice of music by saying this is what the public wants. And these fuckers get an attitude when someone calls them out. The fact of the matter is they have more of a role in this BS music being played than they care to admit. If V103 played Dead Prez 60 times a day, I’m sure these kids would love that shit. Why do you think it’s called music “programming”? They are mad scientists programming the world of this poison. Other than talk radio, I have not listened to the radio in two years. I pick and choose what I want to hear. I feel Ghost and his frustration but it’s not only NY. Good music is being shutted on everywhere!

  23. Samantha Says:

    *Hands Ghost a tissue*

    As far as I know, groups like Dem Franchize Boys and D4L make fun club music, not deep, thought-provoking songs to inspire and move yo’ soul. Why can’t they just be taken for face value? Why create beef where there shouldn’t be any? Why is there a need to bring New York back, there isn’t enough room in hip-hop for different types of expression?

    I’m saying, I wouldn’t want to hear Verbal Intercourse or something while I’m tryna dance lol.

    And I think radio deejays are on the bottom of the totem pole for the most part. What goes on with the playlists are over their heads.

  24. clipserus Says:

    Im guessing this D head Ghostface must not have done well in english. Hes like a anti New Yorkite. Go to Afganistan

  25. nation of thugacation Says:

    yo can someone put maddenmaster back in his place…
    ever since eskay gone missing, stan thinks he runs things around here

    “Youtube is the best thing since electricity.”

  26. rumbl3bumski Says:

    DAMN GHOST IS SPITTIN FLAMES, HE TELLING THE TRUTH! IT USED TO BE WU ALBUMS,GANSTARR,NAS,JAY,BOOT CAMP,AND ALL TYPES OF GOOD RAPPERS, NOW LOOK AT THE LINEUP AND YOU DONT SEE SUCH GREAT ARTISTS(DAMN CANT FORGET BIG L,PUN,B.I.G)NOW YOU CANT GET 1 ARTIST FROM N.Y. THAT CAN EVEN EQUAL TO HALF OF 1 OF THESE ARTISTS.ITS JUST THE SKILL LEVEL HAS DROPPED! FOR PROOF SEE BELOW:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=3-kMJGkzcBg&search=uncle%20murder

  27. T Nelson Says:

    @ MaddenMaster

    Shut the fuck up

  28. Mr. Piff Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:

    YO WHEN THE FUCK DID NAHRIGHT.COM BECOME A FUCKEN YOUTUBE SITE??? WHAT THE FUCK…. IF YOU WANT TO POST ON SHIT YOU FOUND ON YOUTUBE GO TO THE FUCKEN YOU TUBE BOARD…. ITS LIKE 50 FUCKEN YOUTUBE POST TODAY….. I’M NOT TRYING TO GET USED TO THAT

    MaddenMaster Says:

    May 7th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
    First off Eskay…. Ban that dumb mufucka I’m tired of seeing that stupid ass site link…..

    2nd T.I. so sad he aint miss a single day of touring now thats love…

    3rd I was just watching Uncle Murder on you tube and I must say dude got a brite future…. if he can live past next week!!!

    This nigga taking eskay site pics and clowen him… you es stand up nigga…. put that nigga in his place!!!!!

    DAMN YOUR MORE OF A BITCH THAN A BITCH. I THINK U ACTUALLY DESERVE THE MOST IMPROVED SNITCH AWARD..CUZ THAT SHIT NAH RIGHT….DEFINITELY NOT

  29. Benzino Says:

    ^^

    i’m not a snitch but…..thats reachnyc !! i’m coming back on a fucking horse !!

  30. KingML Says:

    So thats what ghostface wears in the summer?

    motherfucker dresses like hes homeless.

  31. Mr. Piff Says:

    he said it…i didnt..

    Im coming back on a fucking horse..yo for real for real…that shit is hilarious LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I dont know whos more of a wing….reachnyc.com or benzino?

    cough cough**

  32. tyronebiggums Says:

    I haven’t read the responses and really skimmed through what he said but I have 41 shots ep that was released by mos def talib and others with proceeds going to the family and shit so I’m just gonna point that inconsistentcy out now. ill be back to deal with other shit tomorrow.

    peace bitches

    hi haters

  33. E From BK Says:

    It’s not about skill. It’s about variety. We had joke rappers in the 80’s and they got major spins, but for every Biz Markie there were 10 other emcees bringing substance. The joke rappers were a novelty not a major influence like they are now. Also, don’t act like party music = bullshit. It does not have to! Kane had party joints, Chubb Rock had party joints, Wrecks in Effect had party joints and so on and so on. Those artists approached the party shit with style.

  34. chucky Says:

    I hear you, thugacation – like scrolling past two comments with youtube links is going to kill Maddenmaster. Get over yourself, Madden – it’s just a link to a source with some information, just like every other link on every other part of this site or anyone else’s. Chillax, old man.

    As for Ghost, as far as I’m concerned, he’s speaking some real truth although he’s a little off-base. As others have pointed out, it’s the programmers and playlist people who have a lot of say in what the DJ plays – not that payola doesn’t exist, but DJ’s aren’t all to blame. Plus you have to play what’s hot. But NY is kind of a mess right now – there’s more press on haters and dis tracks and shootings than on good music.

    On top of that, a lot of real hip hop heads still buy the garbage. My man Borkulus buys tons of stuff, reads all the mags, listens to nothing — and I mean NOTHING — but hip hop, and he still buys Dem Franchize Boys as much as he buys E40 or Talib or the Herbalist or some other weird, esoteric stuff. So basically a lot of it has to do with the fact that society loves crap, we keep buying crap, the south keeps making mostly crap…

    Last, Fishscale is tight if you ask me. It’s a solid, unified album (let’s admit it, you hardly see that these days), some good bangers, some interesting stuff…not crazy about taking it back to the drugs thing, but I’d have to throw out most of my CDs if I had issues with the subject matter.

    Clipserus, your comment is classic.

  35. P-LO Says:

    You know the current state of overall hip hop is bad when youre playing some early 90s shit to some 15 year old kids, and they dig it better than most of the shit theyre listening to now. I have a bad feeling that hip hop is going to be dead in a few decades. Jazz had a really long run, and now its hip hops turn.

  36. Samantha Says:

    @ E, I was getting ready to post a rebuttal to your comment, but I sorta see what you’re saying. However, I don’t feel as if Rump Shaker was especially stylish lol.

    Bottom line, imo, Ghost should be content making music for himself and his fanbase, and not worry about what everybody else is doing.

  37. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    Word up @ nation of thugacation

    youtube is tha otha half of nahright

  38. Demiks Says:

    @crooks thats real talk too, but at least when new york was in control it was pure lyricist and for the love of hip hop you know what i mean

    Not all of it. Just think back to the “shiny suit era.”

    And the other coasts weren’t making rap music in the beggining, they had to relate to NY because thats where it all came from, but in the late 80’s each region started having their own artists to represent like Too Short and Ice Cube out west and Scarface down south. They can appreciate their own artists more.

  39. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    damn………look @ wut happened in my country….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWC2XJYgcJU

    FUCK U MADDEN

  40. the super O.G. Says:

    ESKAY is good for dropping a post that be scaring some niggas away from their PC’s. Ghost said some powerful shit on several levels. One, is that comercial radio is just that, commercially driven. Rap music that is too hard to rouch lyrically NEVER wins on commercial radio. Something that has a sing songy hook is what the masses of sheeple want to hear.

    As far as the people jumping up for Diallo, why was Bruce Springsteen the only entertainer to come to the front for Amadou?!? Niggas might have said a line with Diallo’s name in it but they was never part of no rally or anything that was worth more than lip service. What’s really good?!?

  41. i feel u Says:

    i feel ghost on this 1..i’m from ny and rite now i’m in texas and ny don’t get hardly no play..even videos u don’t see to much ny…they dis ny dwn here in most parts as far as the rap game..what the fuck jay-z gone due bout this shit..yeah i said it he do need to do something hes top dog in ny.. he need to bring somebody out shit..

  42. eskay Says:

    BBN2 Says:

    “Think about how much hate an frivolous comments is issued out on this website on a regular. No disrespect Eskay, I’m jus keepin it G my nigga!”

    ——————————————————————

    dog, this is a blog not your fucking Daily Unbiased Hip Hop News. I talk shit, that’s why people come here. either because they agree or want to argue with me. So now we’re not allowed to speak our opinions on shit? for one thing how are you gonna try to act like me observing the game is somehow hurting it? And it ain’t hate, I criticize these niggas cuz I love them (no Reggie). I used to love Mobb Deep and even though they’ve lost their way, they still have my vote for the Rap Hall of Fame. Prodigy just happens to be a Ballerina. that’s not my fault.

    anyway, I co-sign E from BK’s first comment to the fullest:

    “If V103 played Dead Prez 60 times a day, I’m sure these kids would love that shit. Why do you think it’s called music “programming”?

    ^basically…

    and Madden sit your 5 dollar ass down before I make change

  43. Foekist (reporting live from Hell A) Says:

    See, that’s why we need to ban lame one or two time posters like “I feel u”. What the heck does Jay Z have to do with bringing the East Coast back? Its all about the signs of the times. Music reflects (and influences) society. People aren’t as conscious as they used to.

    Ill say this, its very dissapointing how all you need is a catchy beat and hook, rappers don’t even need to have skills anymore. Its hungry cats out here that really put deep thought in their rhymes and metaphors,and you got cats like D4L doing big numbers. Franchise Boys and shit. Them niggas can’t rhyme for nothing. Its a shame really.

  44. Foekist (reporting live from Hell A) Says:

    Random thought: Rhymefest is trash. Somebody tell him to stick to freestyle battles. I don’t know who’s worse at putting together an album, him or Jin

  45. KingML Says:

    I think Wordsmith is pretty bad at putting together albums.

  46. Foekist (reporting live from Hell A) Says:

    Another random thought: LA has some bad ass hoes.

    *logs off as plane bitch tells us to turn off our phones*

    *wonders if phone would work at 30,000 feet*

    * wonders if he can sneak and try it out once plane gets in the air*

  47. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    lmao @ Es,
    “my vote for the Rap Hall of Fame. Prodigy just happens to be a Ballerina. that’s not my fault.”

  48. Mr. Piff Says:

    Alot of people sit here and listen to these rappers when they cry out to the media (except LOX! D-block D-block D-block!!) but u gotta get down to the jist of the matter, it all boils down to business. and chances are if you came out around the time ghostface did, ya business wasnt right, contracts was all f—ed up. and now on the other hand u got these lil new dudes leanin wit and makin more cake than u…you would be angry too.

    cuz for real that ghostface and ne yo was up there in that category of “if i hear this shit one more…”. but ya numbers still wasnt right.. shouldve released in the winter for the grown folks..summer for da kidz.

    I agree partially wit dude too..

    L.P.CROOKS Says:

    truth be told this is the same frustration that other regions was feelin for years while NY had a strangle hold on the game

    might as well keep preaching….

    its all about the drive duke..I put passion into whatever i do…if i was a rapper i would go all out to get heard…everyone trys to come out and mimmick the old school, (even old schoolers themselves) and wear dookie chains and parts…why dont they ACT like the old school…if i wanted to get heard..Ill come to your show, with a louder system than yours and shut you down..wat ever happen 2 dat!

    every1 nowadays is 2 pretty 2 get down n griddy…

    i dont c anyone doin this anymore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XywQszOsnUs

  49. MaddenMaster Says:

    damn y everybody going on me? HAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  50. c0l0mb14n1116 Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 2:24 am

    damn y everybody going on me?

    No homo ?

  51. tekwun Says:

    Hmm *heavily sighs* I feel ghost for various reasons, mainly for the point on programming. I remember when they DID throw verbal intercourse on in the club, and heads danced to it. Heads made quality joints back in the day and people danced to it, east coast, west or south. It didn’t matter, but now that the mases that be force music into peoples ears, u get songs like laffy taffy at the number one spot. *patiently waits to meet that bitch payola so he can pimp slap her* but as far as the new york scene goes, I only listen to mr cee throwback at noon and when he goes off, so does the radio.

  52. E From BK Says:

    @Samantha

    Forgive me, I’m a male!

  53. you a homo Says:

    samantha you are a homo(yes brokeback) (yes reggie)(yes Boy george)(yes jerry rice)(yes homo)

  54. Mr. Belabor Says:

    Why does Ghostface attack D4L’s Laffy Taffy like it’s all the South has to offer? Sure Southern rappers have an abundance of records talking about Grillz, but how many songs does New York have about hustling in the streets? Ghostface is a sorry old man.

    I mean, what’s really wrong with Laffy Taffy? It can’t be the message because I’ve heard worse. It can’t be the beat because there are some really wack beats. The problem with Laffy Taffy is that it has invaded NYC radio and clubs and it’s just ONE MORE SLOT that the South has filled up. And don’t front, if Dipset did Laffy Taffy NYC would eat it up – just like they did PUSH IT.SMH.

    Before “The Great Holy Ghostface Killah” disses Laffy Taffy, maybe he should explain TUSH, TUSH, TUSH; video and all. And how he had the nerve to let Missy get a verse on it. Explain how “Wanna slide in the bush, bush, bush?” is any better than “Shake that laffy taffy; that laffy taffy”. Explain Tooken Back and he put the worst female Southern rapper on the track. Explain that. I’d settle for an in-depth blow-by-blow on how Wu-Tang made Gravel Pit. Horrible.

    I respect the fact that Ghost makes way more substance than he does bullshit, HOWEVER he acts like his track record is beyond approach and he’s not.

  55. iceberg slim Says:

    new york ribz r touching

  56. Mr. Belabor Says:

    Not to diss NY but just think about it, three years ago. NYC is stuck in time. Notice how the most highly anticipated albums for 2006 are by rappers who have been making records for 10 years plus and in their early to mid-30’s.

    Busta Rhymes
    Cam’ron
    D-Block
    Ghostface
    LL Cool J (never highly anticipated)
    Ma$e
    Mobb Deep
    M.O.P.
    Nas
    Raekwon (not highly anticipated)

    I’m not saying “old rappers move on” but are there just no hungry high school drop outs eager to get on the mic? Where is that next LL Cool J to usher out Kool Moe Dee? It’s time to find some new blood.

    NYC needs a serious new Gameplan. So far plan A doesn’t look like much.= Papoose

  57. Mr. Belabor Says:

    NY created hip hop but when you really think about it, they suck at it on a commercial level and artistic level. Seriously. If you compare The Bronx to other boroughs, it’s seriously lacking.

    Staten Island had a better run in rap than the Bronx – Wu-Tang, Shyheim, King Just, UMCs, Force M.D.’s. You could say Staten Island has quality over quantity. You can list Brooklyn and Queens artists for days. When Harlem does come to the table, they do it big and with style.

    But what about the Bronx?

    To my recollection, the best The Bronx has to offer is Big Pun, Boogie Down Productions (not KRS-One), Slick Rick and Nice & Smooth. You could toss 3/4’s of D.I.T.C. (Lord Finesse, Diamond, Show & AG) in there too for impact, but not sales. But after that, it’s a wrap. Remy Ma. Drag-on. Fat Joe. Chi-Ali. The Legion. I’m sure I’m missing some people but that just shows how boring the BX is.

    It just goes to show that it doesn’t matter who started it, but who finishes it. This is just a segment of a large issue, which is NEW YORK HIP-HOP IS IN A COMA. I’m too busy to write it out and be thought provoking, but rappers in NYC suck – ESPECIALLY PAPOOSE. This negro is garbage. I’ve heard people say he’s the 2nd coming of Raekwon. Ya’ll are bugging out. Papoose is sub-par. And you tell him and Kay Slay that I said it.

  58. Mr. Belabor Says:

    I brought Fishscale but the album seems like it’s repping for Newark, NJ.

    BRICK CITY!
    (Shout out to Redman, The Artifacts & Dark Kent & Lokeyisha Lane!)

    Ghost’s album went brick selling a total of 75,000 copies. Move over Knickerbockers! Ya’ll aren’t the only negros from NYC putting up bricks. If he sold a record for everytime someone saw his MySpace profile he’d be halfway gold by now.

    I said back in March that this lame was going to brick. Blame the south. Blame D4L. Blame it on the planet not being aligned with the sun. But Ghost has not been the same SINCE he droped his last album. Everything up to there was fire and then he fizzled out.

  59. Amped Says:

    He’s got guts to say that, I gotta give him that.

    NY hip-hop is my favorite, but since I don’t live up there I don’t know what parties and radio are like.

  60. Cold Play helped me gradually deprive my insatiable appetite for hip hop (formerly known as Reggaetonslasher) Says:

    I’m done with Rap music, by the end of this week It should be completely out my system. I’d like to say to the regs in this room, its been an honnor in our campaign for the fight to bring the RAW and ORIGINALITY back, but as you may of noticed by the new name I nolonger have the capability or consciouos will to exercise this purpose. Eskay your doing a great job of informing the masses, and exposing pretenders who are partly responsible for Hip Hops demise, and my forthright decision. I’ve blammed everything other than myself for this corruption in the music that became the beat of my life, such as Reggaeton, D4l etc., but the truth is its my fault because I tolerated and endured the never-ceasing pilfering of the culture for so long. PEACE MY PEOPLES.

  61. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    True Story : F*CK NY

  62. Jamz Says:

    I feel Ghost! Sometimes, you have to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you making a difference or just playing along with the game? Hopefully, his statements will spark some action amongst the masses, for a real improvement on the situation? Probably not tho, since there is more money in gimmicks than the so-called, REAL HIPHOP? The DJs are not the problem because they are controlled by someone else. They are only puppets…..

  63. fuc-ny Says:

    ESKAY!! What’ u think about my name now homeboi? Ha! Just what i was saying all along. I must have ESPN or something! My job is done here. Thanks GhostFace

  64. Mr. Belabor Says:

    If it’s one thing I hate, it’s a HIP-HOP PURIST.

    You know the type. The type that claims they make THAT REAL HIP-HOP and their style of hip-hop is so much better than someone elses. The type that feels if you didn’t grow up on Eric B. & Rakim, Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud or Biz Markie you have no business liking Hip-Hop.

    The thing about these Hip-Hop Purist is they forget that THEY TO have skeltons in the closet. cough, cough Ghostface

  65. Mr. Belabor Says:

    Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 8:53 am
    True Story : F*CK NY

    Classic comment!

  66. D-PHILLY Says:

    Wait wait wait!!! I ain’t from NY but you need to realize that without NY this rap thing isn’t existant. Ask anyone from anywhere who they influences were and if a NY kid ain’t in it then they lyin’ through they teeth.

  67. D-PHILLY Says:

    Lyrically noone can fuck with them either

  68. D-PHILLY Says:

    How come noone from anywhere else calls out NY niggaz? They only ones that can handle a Jay-Z or a Nas in a battle are from NY. You think Dem Franchise Boyz is defeatin’ Hov you out yo damn minds.

  69. D-PHILLY Says:

    When it’s all said and set in stone i’ll sign wit Def Jam before i ever touch TVT productions

  70. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    the lack of knowledge on hi-hop on this site really bothers me some times

    the super O.G. Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 12:35 am

    As far as the people jumping up for Diallo, why was Bruce Springsteen the only entertainer to come to the front for Amadou?!? Niggas might have said a line with Diallo’s name in it but they was never part of no rally or anything that was worth more than lip service. What’s really good?!?

    damn i even said this before this clown made his statement am i the only one who remembers and copped the 41 shots album hip-hop for respect ep that mos def talib common pharoe monch and other put out, yea of course bruce springstein will get all the plug but that shit was publicity that dude makes a song for every tradegy ever shits a joke these dudes really came through made some real song about this shit and you cats dont even know about it and people wonder why real hp-hop doesnt sell the realest shit people didnt even know existed

  71. Jamz Says:

    Ty, it’s not jus this site….it’s all over this country! Knowledge seems to be last thing most folks want when it comes to music? The top choice for most people is what’s HOT, not what’s diverse, informative or challenging to the mind!

  72. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    also i agree with ghost about the dj’ing shit but i mean take that up wth the greedy dj’s trying to get PAID. i dont really see what his problem with NY is it seems like really he just has a problems with dj’s.

    and i love ghost ( no camron ) but has he ever once made any type of tribute awareness song? was he on the hip-hop for respect shit, did he do anything about the towers falling ? i never once heard ghost step forward and say anything along those lines, so how is he gonna hate on others when he aint doing it ( and he doesnt realize their are plenty of artists that are doing that shit and they are from NY has ghost ever even made a song like “impreach the president ” from the green lantern mixtape with saigon,immortal technique, and dead prez )

  73. Plug industries AKA the Regulator Says:

    Who is Amadou?

  74. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    JAMZ – thats real talk and i agree but i was specifying this site cause this is a HIP-HOP site and i would hope the people claiming to know shit about hip-hop would know shit about HIP-HOP. now i know there are some people on here who know about this shit so this just shots at the crowd and the majority of it. if the shoe fits step up put it on and get hit and people wonder why i get pissed when people talk about why i want real hip-hop back cause the shit gets ignored people remeber bruce springstein’s shit but you dont remember mos and talib shit, the same dudes you wont support and say aint shit, naw instead ill cop some 50 ( and support his fairly tales ) maybe ill cop some chingy ( nuff said ) shits a joke, this country is just the blind leading the blind its embaressing

  75. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    Plug industries AKA the Regulator Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 10:08 am
    Who is Amadou?

    please tell me your kidding plug

  76. E From BK Says:

    Mr. Belabor Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 9:35 am
    If it’s one thing I hate, it’s a HIP-HOP PURIST.
    ================================================
    Wow! Here lies yet ANOTHER part of the problem. At least he admitted he was hating though.

  77. Plug industries AKA the Regulator Says:

    Nope, doesnt ring a bell, ty

  78. Mr. Belabor Says:

    E From BK Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 10:32 am
    Mr. Belabor Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 9:35 am
    If it’s one thing I hate, it’s a HIP-HOP PURIST.
    ================================================
    Wow! Here lies yet ANOTHER part of the problem. At least he admitted he was hating though.

    The funny thing about this is I knew one of these assholes was bound to come at me with some shit like that. Im a Journalsim legend, the most criticially acclaimed!

  79. Mr. Belabor Says:

    I don’t feel any obligation to “support” someone just because they rap. In general, I don’t encourage anyone to buy anything they don’t really need, On the rare occasion that I do buy a CD, I buy it because I want to listen to it. I could give a fuck if the artist makes $5 or $.05 from it. Am I supposed to be impressed by the fact that people in your region spend more money on rap CDs than people in any other region? Could it be that people in NY have lower standards of quality in music than people in other parts of the country? That would certainly explain the popularity of “train riding rap rap,” or whatever it is you call it.

  80. E From BK Says:

    If you are such a legend then why do you have to use words like assholes when I NEVER cursed at you. Shouldn’t you have a better command of the English language? You have just shown that you are not worthy of a debate. Thanks for showing your hand. Also, if you have to STATE that you are a legend then ……………….well you know the rest.

  81. Mr. Belabor Says:

    Does that seem too unlikely a scenario? How else to account for the fact that E from BK is accusing me of all kinds of weird shit that doesn’t have shit to do with this damn post?

  82. E From BK Says:

    Where did I accuse you of something you did not do? Please point it out SPECIFICALLY.

  83. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    PLUG – YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS AN AFRICAN LEGAL IMMIGRANT IN NY AND COPS HAD GOTTEN A CALL ABOUT A RAPIST THEY SAW HIM TRYING TO GO IN HIS PROJECT DOORS WHEN THEY APPROACHED HIM AND TOLD HIM TO FREEZE ( DUDE REACHED FOR HIS WALLET, CAUSE IN AFRICA THATS THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN APPROACHED BY AUTHORITIES ) AS HE REACHED FOR HIS WALLET THE COPS DUMPED 41 SHOTS INTO HIM.

  84. Mr. Belabor Says:

    Ghost is a tool of the industry and a sorry old man who only ever had a hit!

  85. pecans Says:

    i think ghost hit it right on the nail. never thought of it before but diallo really was like the first major part of giuliani “cleaning up” new york. in the next five years they dropped crime dramatically and opened up the city to get fucked by anyone with money. now times square looks like disneyworld, the nightlife is shittier than ever, and frat boys from ohio run around manhattan thinking they’re reppin the city. it’s terrible.

    i’m with ghost all the way on this one; we need to bring the old new york back

  86. eskay Says:

    Mr. Belabor, you don’t know what the fuck your talking about. We would’ve ate up Laffy Taffy if Dipset did it? Get the fuck outta here. We suck at hip hop commercially and artistically? Negro please. Papoose is better than any artist from whatever region your repping, I’ll put my life on it.

  87. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    DAMN THE BEEF IS JUMPING OFF EARLY THIS MORNING.

    ANYONE SEE THAT MIKE EPPS STAND UP THIS WEEKEND SHIT WAS FUCKING HYSTERICAL.

    ” I WAS ONE OF THEM DUDES LIKE FUCK WORKING FOR THE WHITE MAN I AINT GETTING NO MINIMUM WAGE 5.75 AN HOUR, THEN I FUCKED AROUND GOT LOCKED UP ENDED UP WORKING FOR 35 CENT A DAY, IM LIKE AINT THAT BOUT A BITCH “

  88. Mr. Belabor Says:

    In fact, when E from BK responded had responded to the comment, I hoped he had actually read it and would respond to some of the points I made in it. Perhaps unsurprisingly, E from BL did nothing of the sort. Instead he let loose with the kind of comment that begins, “Wow! Here lies yet ANOTHER part of the problem. At least he admitted he was hating though.”
    It could very well be the case that Bun B doesn’t know how to read, or just a moron as I expected!

  89. E From BK Says:

    I read the full comment and when you start off the comment the way you did, you show what your belief is. “You are trying to make Hip Hop Purists” a negative when in all actuality we need more purists. This is where another part of the problem lies. The young kids are disrespectful to it’s elder statesman. Rock, Country, Jazz and other art forms love their pioneers and support them thoroughly. Nobody walks around saying, “Fuck Mick Jagger with his old ass.” These guys criticize the music just like rappers criticize the music. Being a purists is a good thing! Support your pioneers. Everybody else does and that’s why their artists will continue to eat!

  90. BBN2 Says:

    @Eskay obviously u misunderstood my comment when I say hate an frivolous comments I did’nt mean u personally. So calm  nigga! I’m talkin bout nigga’s in general on this site. This is ur site run it how you run it it’s all business ya dig. I don’t care about mobb deep none of these rap niggas less I know them personally. Like I said which is fact an not an opinionated comment NIGGAS! IS BRED TOO HATE EACHOTHER. That comment was was food for thought u took it some where else my sentiments exactly. Dog, I don’t play! If I was directin a comment towards u I would’ve spoke my mind. I don’t bite my tongue for no nigga. Know that so won’t get offended by a comment that’s not mean’t to b takin that way

  91. eskay Says:

    I hear you. But I don’t see what’s wrong with a little hate every now and then. One thing I do agree with that Mrs. Belabor said is I don’t don’t feel any obligation to support anybody cuz they rap.

  92. Jamz Says:

    @Ty – That’s what this thing is really about. Passing and knowledge with each other. If we all knew everything we needed to know about hiphop, there would be no use for sites such as this? Don’t be angry about the ignorance that exist, but be apart of the change. It will be difficult to deal with the reality of true ignorance that’s prevelent, but if you don’t teach those who don’t know, they never will…..

  93. mr.kamoji Says:

    Ghost is right, New York has never been the same since DPG dropped em buildings and Guillian cleaned everything up.

  94. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    @BBN2
    …eskay is very sensitive and gets very emotional about issues if you dont agree with him, he orders you to “kill yourself”…it must be that “islamic upbringing” he was ranting about when he told me to kill myself for daring to use the words whitey and massa in the same sentence as ALLAH…musically i usually agree with eskay, but he is prone to bitchfits if you dont agree with him and his sacred views about anything else, and dont let his “weedcarrier” tybiggums hear you badmouth eskay, cause then you get to go at it with both of these ladies…lmfao…

  95. E From BK Says:

    mr.kamoji Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 11:10 am
    Ghost is right, New York has never been the same since DPG dropped em buildings
    ================================================
    DPG? Where are they in the 9-11 reports? Who are they? I thought the buildings were knocked down by airplanes.

  96. eskay Says:

    yeah but don’t get it twisted Landlord, I’ve since renounced organized religion and I’d sooner stab you in the neck than argue with you.

  97. E From BK Says:

    People really need to stop using DPG in relation to the towers. Real talk, people lost their lives for real. That shit is nothing to make light of!

  98. Jamz Says:

    @ Eskay – Does it bother you when people come on your site and criticize you about what you say and how you run it?

  99. eskay Says:

    @ Jamz

    I gotta tell you, it does. This is a fucking blog not the New York Times. You want unbiased opinion go to fucking AHH or SOHH. If you want to talk shit about rappers and download free music, come to Nah Right.

  100. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    Jamz Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 11:08 am
    @Ty – That’s what this thing is really about. Passing and knowledge with each other. If we all knew everything we needed to know about hiphop, there would be no use for sites such as this? Don’t be angry about the ignorance that exist, but be apart of the change. It will be difficult to deal with the reality of true ignorance that’s prevelent, but if you don’t teach those who don’t know, they never will…..

    AGAIN REAL TALK, AND I TRY THAT BUT THERE IS NOTHING ON THIS EARTH THAT PISSES ME OFF MORE THAN IGNORANCE AND BLIND HATE. I TRY AND DO MY PART BUT I CANT HELP BUT GET MAD HEATED SOMETIMES

    E FROM BK – I HAD NO IDEA DPG WAS INVOLVED IN THAT SHIT EITHER SHIT THIS WHOLE TIME YOUR TELLING ME WE SHOULD OF BEEN BOMBING LONG BEACH

  101. Jamz Says:

    @ Eskay – I feel you playa! I guess when people come here, they don’t really know what 2 expect? When I stumbled up in here awhile back, I thought this was a gossip site….just based on the some of the comments I was reading! But, now I see there is some decent convo amongst the trash talking that happens….

  102. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    eskay Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 11:24 am
    @ Jamz

    I gotta tell you, it does. This is a fucking blog not the New York Times. You want unbiased opinion go to fucking AHH or SOHH. If you want to talk shit about rappers and download free music, come to Nah Right

    NOT TO GET THE STANS EXCITED AGAIN BUT IM ABOUT TO JUMP ON ESKAYS “NUTS” AGAIN. THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY IM ON THIS SITE. I LIKE THE SHIT TALKING WITH THE G-UNIT STANS AND I LIKE JOKING AROUND ( MOST THE PEOPLE IN HERE I SWEAR WANNA BE COMDEIANS ON HERE JUST TRYING OUT MATERIAL ) ITS GREAT ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE OF THAT SHIT BUT STILL MOSTLY I COME FOR THAT NEW AUDIO CRACK ESKAY STAYS BLESSING US WITH

  103. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    …over what?…because we dont agree unless its Pap or Wu, or the fact that Dre is overrated, because you was co-signing when i posted that shit….but if i say something about these crakkers, you get all upset…meanwhile you and countless others say nigga and negro please countlessly, hmmmm…i guess its off limits to use any ethnic slurs that pertain to your beloved caucasians..and btw, you cant stab me in the neck, so the fact that you have those feelings for me, and dont even know me, exposes your feminine emotions…do your blog homie, you good at it..the tough guy talk through the internet is cowardly….your local masjid is awaiting your return….

  104. E From BK Says:

    @tyronebiggums71

    No doubt Ty. That shit really burns me up when people make light about the whole towers thing. Not the physical towers, but what it all reminds me of. Even the radio know to to bleep out, “Time to get paid, blow up like the…………….”

  105. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    LANDLORD – LOVES TO TWIST PEOPLE WORDS HE DIDNT THREATEN YOU. LEARN TO READ AND YOU’LL SEE THAT WAS HIS WAY OF SAYING YOUR NOT WORTH HIS TIME TO TRY AND ARGUE WITH, YOUR LOST I MEAN BEYOND LOST,
    YOUR IN WAY TOO DEEP FOR US TO SAVE YOU SO THATS ALL HE WAS SAYING DAMN YOU THINK YOU COULD LEARN HOW TO READ WITH THAT 6 FIGURE INCOME YOUR PARENTS GOT

  106. Jamz Says:

    @Ty – U should start a blog or website if you don’t already have one, then you can pass on the knowledge 4 real.

  107. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    YEA E FROM BK – IM WITH YOU PEOPLE DO BE MAKING LIGHT OF IT AND PEOPLE REALLY PISS ME OFF WHEN THEY SAY SHIT DIDNT HAPPEN OR THIS AND THAT CAUSE I GOT FAMILY THAT DIED IN THOSE TOWERS, AND THAT AINT SHIT CAUSE IT WASNT MY DAD IT WASNT THE PROVIDER FOR MY FAMILY BUT THERE WAS PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO DIED AND LEFT A FAMILY BEHIND AND THE GOV’T GAVE THEM SHIT SO TO MAKE LIGHT OF IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE WHO DIED

  108. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    eskay Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 11:24 am
    @ Jamz

    I gotta tell you, it does. This is a fucking blog not the New York Times. You want unbiased opinion go to fucking AHH or SOHH. If you want to talk shit about rappers and download free music, come to Nah Right.
    —————————————–

    …but your most visited threads have the most polarized topics (ie., race, religion and North vs. South HipHop) they get the most hits…so you gotta be loving this shit at the end of the day…

    “But I don’t see what’s wrong with a little hate every now and then” – Eskay

  109. BBN2 Says:

    I can dig it! Eskay we all hate from time to time it’s in our nature even I. That was more of a wordly statement than a personal1 because the issues that hip-hop have are way bigger than niggas havin a verbal dispute on the internet ya feel me!

  110. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    Jamz Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 11:38 am
    @Ty – U should start a blog or website if you don’t already have one, then you can pass on the knowledge 4 real.

    thats funny eskay said that shit to me when i first started coming here cause i tend to get into a bit of detail some people on here like to clown me from time to time talking i be writing novels ( and i do no doubt ) but im computer illiterate as a motherfucker i dont know the first shit about how he uploads music get his pics and puts them. id need someone to do all that shit for me
    but good looks anyway if i can ever figure that shit out ill most likely start one,

    but dont worry eskay the capo aint going nowhere id still stay here and hold it down for him ( problem is running this blog and his work takes up so much of his time he cant handle these dudes on here as much as i can if i had a blog it would probably be the same shit but we shall see

    ONE DAY

  111. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    DAMN IT NO ONE SAW THAT MIKE EPPS SHIT DUDE WAS HILARIOUS

    ” I WAS ONE OF THEM DUDES LIKE FUCK WORKING FOR THE WHITE MAN I AINT GETTING NO MINIMUM WAGE 5.75 AN HOUR, THEN I FUCKED AROUND GOT LOCKED UP ENDED UP WORKING FOR 35 CENT A DAY, IM LIKE AINT THAT BOUT A BITCH “

  112. jersey Says:

    I feel ghost pain, but………Ghost man you just went off your train of though!….not saying what hes saying dosent have any validity, cuz its understandable….but to me it sounds more like extreme frustration and misdirected anger!….Let me tell you something Change iz gonna come regardless of how you look @ it or feel about it so you gotta deal with it or be creative with it!…..LA N*ggaz aint trippin and one day the south gonna have to deal wit change!! Change iz not something you bargain for!….Everything changes, the only things that dont change are nonliving things…..Its not a “if” but rather a when when it comes to Change!!!……Remember 360 degrees (earth revolves)…NY will be back but w/ our kids kidz

  113. BBN2 Says:

    I meant worldly!

  114. eskay Says:

    Landlord, I’ll stab you in the neck cuz your a racist coward. point blank. it ain’t no tough talk, it’s just thats the only way to talk to idiots like you. Biggums has the patience to sit here and break apart your flwaed theories and biased opinions. I don’t. so I say fuck you I’ll slap blood outta your mouth. any regulars here know how I get down, they’ve all read my views on everything from music to race to violence. I read all the bullshit you’ve been spitting in everyt other thread, trying to make everything about Black and White. your an idiot. you need to go read Lili’s comments in one of the other posts, she had some real talk for your ass. beloved caucasians? whatever man, it’s talk like that that forces me resort to statements such as the one I made. there’s no point in arguing with you because your an idiot. as far as feminine emotions nigga you on the internet talking a bunch of shit that I know you wouldn’t say in my face or any of my friends who are white’s face so whats really good? tough talk on the internet, motherfucker please.

  115. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    DAMN ESAY LOOK AT THIS LITTLE COWARD RUN AFTER THAT INTERNET BEATDOWN HE JUST TOOK FOR YOU

  116. jersey Says:

    LOL….ESKAY…….He talkin the familiar talk thats sole purpose iz to get under uh N*gga skin……He knows you holdin shit down and M*nfucka gotz that “it aint suppose to be like that”…attitude!…….

  117. jersey Says:

    Eskay jus keep doin what u doin bruh!!!!!!!…and hell he gonna keep hatin accusatin..lol

  118. D. Billz Says:

    @ Ty… I laughed at a few of the jokes, but dude didn’t really humor me like I thought he would. He’s a better comedic actor than stand up comedian in my opinion. And this is coming from one of the biggest comic crtics EVER. I compare comedy to rap in so many ways:

    1. You gotta be original. Can’t be recycling the next comic’s lines or flippin’ ’em to attempt to make them your own.

    2. Delivery, delivery, delivery. A lot of comedians would be funnier if they knew how to convey it to the masses. I’ve witnessed on many occassions comedians have some funny shit to say but fail to say it the right way.

    3. Punch-liners (or “One-Liners” in the realm of comedy) vs. Storytellers vs. Political comics. Mike Epps is a punch-liner. He’s not great at telling stories and his political awareness is non-existent. I think that’s why I was disappointed with his performance. Not because he’s not funny, but because a Punchliner can’t hold down an hour of comedy (or 45-50 minutes to be technical). The best comedians are like good MCs: cohesive subject matter. People like Pryor and E. Murphy were the masters of segue. They knew how to tell a story about one thing which created an outlet to talk about something else. Example: Eddie used Johnny Carson’s divorce in “Raw”, which was a segue to talk about greedy women, which was a segue to talkin’ about gettin’ an African bitch named Mmfoofoo and keepin’ her in the house. The of course you got comics like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle who are the best poli comedians, period. Dave picked up where Chris left off. And in my opinion, Martin Lawrence did a combination of all 3. Though Runteldat was mediocore compared to You So Crazy, he found a way to include all 3 styles.

    4. Content. Just like hip hop, I get tired of comics talkin’ about the same shit. Black/White jokes are so fuckin’ boring. It’s like pickin’ up a mixtape and 85% is about niggas flippin’ birds, grillz, hoes, and whips. I like comics who take chances and talk about different shit. Now, political comics could be put under Black/White, but it’s about the #1 I listed: ORIGINALITY. Come to think of it, I really don’t mind Black/White, but be original. Even Dave did a parody of that on his show with the African drums for the Def Poetry Jam skits (btw, Mos Def is fuckin’ hilarious). Comics who can go on stage and talk about the not-so-popular topics intrigue me the most. I can turn on Comedy Central and tune into a white comic who talks about some every-day shit that will have me dying. George Lopez’s stand-up shit is madd funny. He talks about some ghetto stuff from a Mexican point of view. And Kevin James (star of King of Queens and Hitch movie) did a stand up that was also funny.

  119. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    at TY
    …who’s running, Mrs.Eskay?…ya’ll have no idea who i am or what i do…my words will become manifest…. like it or not…and ty baby(no homo), thers no such thing as an internet beatdown…brothers just disagree on some serious issues, and i never ran, never will…we’ll let ALLAH settle who’s right and who’s wrong…

  120. Dumb Nigga Says:

    >>I must have ESPN or something! My job is done here.

    You got ESPN too? What’s your favorite show on there? I usually watch Pardon The Interruption when i get the chance, and you know i can’t miss Sportscenter!

  121. jersey Says:

    ..^^^wtf iz talkin bout^^^^^^^

  122. D. Billz Says:

    Sorry about the long ass post (novel) on comedy, lol. But I’m actually into comedy just as much as music.

    “If V103 played Dead Prez 60 times a day, I’m sure these kids would love that shit. Why do you think it’s called music “programming”?

    ^^ Funny thing is, V103 used to be a Baltimore station until Frank Ski moved it to the ATL. And now it’s replaced by wack ass 92Q (with the exception of the Big Phat morning show), which I haven’t listened to in a minute. I agree with B from EK. It needs to be more hip hop purists. I disagree with that whole “times have changed” bullshit. Changing times shouldn’t entail lack of quality, period. If that’s the case, we wouldn’t have the Lupes, Paps, Saigons, Buddens, Name Brands (West Coast), D.I.’s (West Coast) and the like, poppin’ up and bringin’ forth new shit.

  123. eskay Says:

    >>we’ll let ALLAH settle who’s right and who’s wrong…

    what happens if you die and realize there is no such being? what are you gonna do then?

  124. jersey Says:

    Thats your perception as far lack of quality!…I myself believe 80% of NY rap iz still generating top notch hits…But its kinda of hard to take seriously opinions on hip hop from a clown oops i mean a comic….

  125. jersey Says:

    go tell some jokes on the george washington bridge

  126. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    …wow!!!…i guess since i would be dead, my options would be somewhat limited…i guess i’ll just worship you, huh?….bad question homes…

  127. eskay Says:

    >>bad question homes

    it must have been a good question since all you can come back with is jokes.

  128. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
    at TY
    …who’s running, Mrs.Eskay?…ya’ll have no idea who i am or what i do…my words will become manifest…. like it or not…and ty baby(no homo), thers no such thing as an internet beatdown…brothers just disagree on some serious issues, and i never ran, never will…we’ll let ALLAH settle who’s right and who’s wrong…

    what if i dont believe in allah, what if there is no allah, what if its buddah i have to answer too? what if scientology is really the answer ? keep basing your life on FAITH and FAITH alone

  129. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    @eskay
    …well what do you suggest?…i dont question ALLAH’s validity…produce a book greater in fulfilled prophecy than the Qu’ran…the jokes were an expression of how incredulous i felt that question to be…especially coming from someone who says they have an Islamic background…

    ..as for you ty,
    …you have many valid questions, i suggest you read Message to the Black Man by Elijah Muhammad, Behold the Pale Horse, and of course the Holy Qu’ran…there you will find some of your answers…

  130. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    D.BILLZ – i agree with everything you said real talk. im a huge comdey fan to especially stand-up i can name of comics im fans of like i can do with mixtape rappers.

    i agree it did feel like some of the same standard jokes and yeah he didnt get into no story type shit ( like chappelle does with his weed stories/ or breaking down in the hood in the limo or like you said about eddie murphy in raw ) which is my favorite type of stand up. but my favorite shit about mike epps is the faces he makes and the way he talks and has to gather himself to get his shit out, his facial expressions and the way he says certain things are the funnest shit about him to me. but i fell you on the let down but this is what i expected and while defintely wasnt a chapelle chris rock even a patrice o’neal kevin hart jim norton rich vos shit but again it was a different type of stand up act and i still found it hilarious

  131. D. Billz Says:

    “…rich vos shit…”

    ^ ‘Cause he’s from Jersey, right? Lol. Nah, but that dude is funny. He was on BET and straight didn’t give a fuck in front of hundreds of Blacks… he’s hardcore with his jokes. And yeah, the way Epps say some of his shit is hilarious. The one where he said he was in Chicago and he saw a pimp throwin’ a snowball at one of his hos. I was dyin’!

  132. G-town G Says:

    What up my niggaz Im back round this mufucka just bringin the southern swagger as usual…

    Damn I tripped out when I read what Ghostface said but shit he got some good points. Bad thing is Im like fuckin 1 of the 2 ppl around my way wit his album. Personally I liked it tho I fux wit them niggas (neva HOmo). And rioiting is not always the answer but as I read someone post above, niggas aint built like that no mo. It aint that many niggas ready to ride for some real shit like that but niggas will shoot u real quik for the dumbest shit…
    I hate it really I wish we kould just get along and make music fuck it u know. I dont give a fuck where u from just put out a good album and Ill buy it, Im not biased at all I love hip hop

  133. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ..as for you ty,
    …you have many valid questions, i suggest you read Message to the Black Man by Elijah Muhammad, Behold the Pale Horse, and of course the Holy Qu’ran…there you will find some of your answers…

    ive read them all. ive read shit about all religions and ill like parts of everything and disagree with parts of everything ( i actually relate to and agree with islam the most but look at how it can be twisted real muslims are peaceful as fuck but you got others that interpret the same book as a code of war time to launch the jihad ) all these things were written for different reasons in different times who knows whose right and whose wrong just live your life right and who ever the “god” is if there is one will respect you for that.

    but nothing written by someone thousands of years ago can ever be considered fact to me i mean how can you prove to me that someone didnt make the whole thing up 100 years ago, there could of been one guy who made up everything years and decades and centuries worth of stories. how do we know for sure about all the greek and romans stories weve heard how much is true was julius ceaser real or made up is there anyway to prove it ? so how am i gonna base everything i do in life on something written that long ago im not sure who wrote it or why and even if it was all honest and true at the time, times have changed drastically

    ( dont eat red meat, yea that might of made sense before reyolnds wrap when if not sotred properly a prok chop might kill you that was before freezers and everything, dont eat no red meat , no no no dont eat no green meat ) chris rock

  134. D. Billz Says:

    @ The Lanlord… Have you seen the Loose Change documentary yet? I asked because you mentioned Behold a Pale Horse which is one of my favorite books ever. Loose Change is like the modern-day version of it. And all this controversy surrounding the Davinci Code movie aint shit compared to what could/will happen when/if they do one for Pale Horse. That shit would be banned world wide. You can’t even buy the book certain places. I’m surprised the publishing company he used to print it didn’t “mysteriously” get shut down or something along those lines.

    ^^^ It’s funny how I mentioned Loose Change, Behold a Pale Horse and Divinci Code all in the same paragraph and it wouldn’t even let me submit my post. C-O-N… spiracy.

  135. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    D. Billz Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
    “…rich vos shit…”

    ^ ‘Cause he’s from Jersey, right? Lol. Nah, but that dude is funny. He was on BET and straight didn’t give a fuck in front of hundreds of Blacks… he’s hardcore with his jokes. And yeah, the way Epps say some of his shit is hilarious. The one where he said he was in Chicago and he saw a pimp throwin’ a snowball at one of his hos. I was dyin’!

    yea i gotta admit a bit of jersey biased but dudes still hilarious. your right he is brutal but he doesnt discriminate, and with comedians i always say if they can really make fun of themselves like crazy during their shit and as long as its funny and it can pass as a joke its all good.

    also yea that snowball pimpin thing had me dying thats the type of shit he is the most funny with. the shit talking about how he was in the special classes in school and the teacher used tell them grown ass 19 year old men to take a nap he said ” i wanted to take off my helmet and smack the bitch like you take a nap im 19 god damn years old. i was dying with that shit

  136. G-town G Says:

    I think the site had fucked up, I kouldnt get in for a few minutes. But maybe it wuz a Conspiracy…?

  137. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    THE SHIT WAS FREZZING ON ME TOO

  138. Dumb Nigga Says:

    >>I think the site had fucked up, I kouldnt get in for a few minutes. But maybe it wuz a Conspiracy…?

    Lol maybe, but the site wasn’t working for me either, and i was commenting on this.

    >>Bad thing is Im like fuckin 1 of the 2 ppl around my way wit his album

    And i was going to say somethinh like…….Yeah i was probably 1 of 2 people around my way with Fishscale also.

  139. Jamz Says:

    Dayum, it’s gettin kinda deep in here!

  140. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    @Dbillz
    …funny you should ask about loose change, i just downloaded it at google-video…yeah, i kept getting “cannot find server when i went to post”…i thought the almighty Eskay had banned me…i now believe it was a sign from the TRUE Almighty for eskay to not question HIS existence…lmao(maybe)…

  141. D. Billz Says:

    Random Thoughts: Is it me, or are female DJ’s bangin’? I’m readin’ the article on Allhiphop about this chick from NC. But even go back as far as Salt N Pepa. Spindarella was fine and could still get it. This one chick, DJ Lindsay outta BK, was spinnin’ at a J*DaVeY (www.jdaveybaby.com) concert in NYC back in March. She’s on point, no bullshit.

  142. G-town G Says:

    Bad thing about the south tho is that nobody buys cds anymore. Everybody is bootlegging and since I have such an extensive library of music niggaz is always askin me to burn em shit but I really dont even like doin that shit.
    Ppl be everywhere down here sellin cds on the streets and its like too damn convenient. Why go to the store and buy when u kan get it around the hood? Fucked up…

  143. D. Billz Says:

    BTW, yall ever read Phonte’s blogs on Little Brother’s Myspace page? That nigga is hilarious. He got one talkin’ about dudes being “cuddle bunnies”. That shit had me literally laughin’ out loud. I don’t wanna give away the details so go to their site and peep that shit for yourself.

    http://www.jdaveybaby.com Sorry, shameless plug.

  144. G-town G Says:

    I kant lie I cop some of the bootlegs too but as I have said before I go support the niggaz I that make music I kan respect

  145. Jamz Says:

    @G-Town – The mose messed up part about the bootlegging and downloading is the lose of good music stores (mom & pop types) that get some of the rare and hard to find stuff! After awhile, if you can buy music online….you’ll be screwed? I guess you will still be able to hit up Circuit Shitty or WhyTry Best Buy for that top 40 and old skool shyt???

  146. Jamz Says:

    D Billz – When is that J-Davey album droppin?

  147. D. Billz Says:

    @Landlord… What did you think about Loose Change? Personally and honestly, even though I already had certain preconceived thoughts about what happened, this documentary confirmed it. I mean, anytime Big Brother goes to the extent to do some shit like that, why wouldn’t I believe anything or discredit what was said in Pale Horse? http://www.infowars.com That’s a website where they even talk about how Michael Moore was a plant and decoy for the election. I think I’m gonna end up being that crazy old man that nobody listens to but eventually everyone finds out that I was right, LOL!

  148. G-town G Says:

    And thats really all I have been doin lately is stockin up on old shit. Somebody broke into my fuckin krib like a year ago and took ALL my fuckin music and shit. I hope them bastards go deaf! Man I had like at least 300 something cds and tapes all gone. Bitch ass niggas even got me for a lil killa… Im sure they were lookin for the stash but they would neva find that, Im too fuckin good.

  149. D. Billz Says:

    Jamz… Great question chief. They’re not signed yet, but supposedly this month’s concert at Radio City will change all that. There are supposed to be some well-known industry folks at this event that want to sign them. And right now they’re being represented by Kanye’s lawyer so this will give them an opportunity to have a legit recording contract. The only music they have available right now is the OFFICIAL bootleg cd of the music on their website. But you can only cop it at their shows. Fortunately for me I have my own personal autographed copy given to me by the oh-so-sexy Ms. Davey. Their official album should be out sometime around 3rd or 4th quarter though. More than likely 4th quarter.

  150. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    G-town G Says:
    May 8th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
    Bad thing about the south tho is that nobody buys cds anymore. Everybody is bootlegging and since I have such an extensive library of music niggaz is always askin me to burn em shit but I really dont even like doin that shit.
    Ppl be everywhere down here sellin cds on the streets and its like too damn convenient. Why go to the store and buy when u kan get it around the hood? Fucked up…

    THATS WHATS BEEN KILLING NY HIP-HOP FOR YEARS, WHY GO TO THE CD STORE AND COP IT FOR 15$ WHEN YOU CAN WALK TO THE CORNER AND COP IT FOR 5$. THATS WHY REAL RAP DONT SELL ITS ONLY THE COMMERCIAL POPPY SHIT THAT IS LIKED IN THE BURBS

  151. D. Billz Says:

    Only thing Circuit City and Best Buy are good for is the cheap prices during the first week release of an album. Can’t beat $9.99.

  152. G-town G Says:

    Yea Ty kuz they the ones buyin the shit. I forgot yall been havin that problem too. I remember when bootleg wuz bunk tho. When u buy a bootleg tape and it wasnt shit but a piece of paper with a pic of the cd on one side. And the quality wuz garbage.
    Times have really changed

  153. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    “I think I’m gonna end up being that crazy old man that nobody listens to but eventually everyone finds out that I was right, LOL!”- DBILLZ
    ————————-

    ….My point EGGZACKLEE!!!!…..

    ..i havent seen the flick (loose change) yet, i have to wait until after work to check it out, just downloaded it…and since you mentioned his name, as i have been saying lately…PHONTE(LITTLE BROTHER) = KING OF THE SOUTH…..really…

  154. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ YEA THATS WHERE I COP MY CD’S WHEN I ACTUALLY BUY CD’S, THATS WHERE I WENT FOR GHOST AND T.I.

  155. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ FOR D.BILLZ

  156. G-town G Says:

    Shit Target seelin cds for 9.99 too it seems like that is a new thing. But I mean ppl talkin bout how much a nigga make off they album damn how much u gone make if the shits sellin for 9.99?

  157. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    YEA G-TOWN THOSE BOOTLEGS BE SOUNDING JUST AS GOOD AS STUDIO ALBUMS NOWADAYS

  158. Jamz Says:

    @D.Billz – Man, I hate waiting for music to drop! Sometimes, that shyt never happens as planned, and they end just another memory! Why don’t they make the bootleg available for everyone to get a copy?

    Yeah, u can’t beat anything less than $10 for a CD! They hope you buy a dayum laptop, refrigerator or a washing machine while you up in there 2, that’s why they DVDs and CDs are so cheap!

  159. G-town G Says:

    And thats the problem Ty kuz u have the same quality buyin the cds 2 for $5

  160. Dumb Nigga Says:

    Today was a good day(so far!) No sign of stans or anything!

  161. D. Billz Says:

    Yeah, bootleggin’ does hurt sales. But I can’t lie because I’m also guilty of those charges. My last few joints (DJ Rob-E-Rob’s Best of Jada and Joe Buddens Mood Muzik 2) have been bootlegs from the flea market (my B’more heads know about that). And when I was living in Harlem going to school, yo, I fell in love with 125th’s pricing scheme: 1 for 3, 2 for 5. Shit, I cam back to B’more and felt like the local bootleggers was rippin’ me off! But like I mentioned before in previous posts, me coppin’ an album from the store depends on the artists and what they represent. I don’t care if Talib and Mos put out a gospel album, I’m coppin’ from the store. I support those dudes because they need it from fans like us. They don’t have the big ass contracts/budgets and not only that, I like what they represent in hip hop culture. For instance, I still wanna cop Power of a Dollar. But best believe I’m gettin’ that shit bootlegged.

  162. Jamz Says:

    The other thing bootlegs do is bring out the music that was never meant to be released by the label! Sometimes, artists do that themselves when the label is phuckin’ them over! I ain’t mad at them either…….

  163. G-town G Says:

    Yea D.BIllz thats exactly what I mean about artists u kan respect. We all men u know its niggas out here doin some real positive shit and I support that 100%

  164. E From BK Says:

    It may be just me, but I went to lunch and popped in some BDP. The second I heard that 808 drop at the start of “The Bridge Is Over” it got me amped! I almost forgot how that got me ready for it all!

  165. Bugsytheboss Says:

    Bootleg shit hurts the label more than the artist to a certain degree. But from my past experience if the bootleg is hot on the streets its going to sale in the record stores.plus alot times artist will drop a mixtape with tracks that didn’t make the album and that creates buzz for the real L.P.

  166. Jamz Says:

    Yep, you gotta buy music too! Downloading/Bootleggin is aiight for some, but them real katz don’t get a dime from that whatsoever! Everybody seems to be so cheap now-a-days? Blackfolks only represent about 15% of the record sales, so they really need our support! The truth is, if white America ain’t buying it…it probably won’t be going gold??

    Yo, anybody ever heard that mixtape from Shady Records where Donald Trump was supposedly in the studio with G-Unit talking about how his kids loved 50? Was that shyt true? I hope this question doesn’t start a riot??

  167. D. Billz Says:

    The Landlord says: “…PHONTE(LITTLE BROTHER) = KING OF THE SOUTH…..really…”

    ^^ I totally agree chief. And in my opinion, stic.man from dead prez is in VERY close second place. Those dudes get little to no recognition in the south. But we show ’em madd love up here in the Northeast region. Why? Because as I, Es, Ty, King ML, E from BK and many others have said before… IT’S NOT ABOUT NORTH VS. SOUTH. It’s about quality and substance. But some mofos just don’t, and probably won’t, get it.

    Jamz says: “Man, I hate waiting for music to drop! Sometimes, that shyt never happens as planned, and they end just another memory! Why don’t they make the bootleg available for everyone to get a copy?”

    ^^ I totally agree with you chief. But honestly, it’s not their fault. The people that are representing right now aint on their job. For one, if you’re a J*DaVey fan like me, you would agree that the songs “No More”, “Might As Well”, and “Camera Gangstas” should be singles, right? But they aren’t even being played on the radio. “No More” is a certified hit on the radio. “Might As Well” is a sure enough party joint. And “Camera Gangstas” is on some other shit, bananas. I hope they go under new management. Even though I know their manager personally, I just don’t think he’s doing all that needs to be done to see that their situation is right.

  168. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    YOU SURE AS SHIT WONT SEE NO LITTLE BROTHER HATIN FROM ME THEM BOYS ARE THE TRUTH

  169. Jamz Says:

    D. Billz – My patience is thin playa! Yo, what’s their manager’s name and number, so I can have ole boy mail me a copy of the bootleg…LOL? I wish I was playin…. I was content with waiting for the real album until we had this little convo (Thanks), but now I’m on a mission! I snagged a couple songs off the net a while back, but now I needs to get my hands on the bootleg. U’re gonna be aight, since you got the bootleg already, but the rest of us are out here starvin’…..LOL!

  170. Jamz Says:

    Man, Phonte is one of my top 5 MCs! Dude is always clever with the wordplay and is always on point with the delivery.

  171. MEGA' Says:

    Starks is one illist that ever done, he is the epitomie of hiphop; flamboyant origional, carasmatic streetsavy without sounding fake. Niggas aint saying shit that means shit nowdays. This “new” generation of emcees North and South just dont cut it G (to many fake thugs). I’m not feeling none of that shit! I’m a early 90’s cat; shit was poppin’ back then. I remember waiting in antisipation for the next Wu are Nas joint to drop; I aint been excited for shit in a good eight years. Part of the problem is exactly what I’m doing right now; clicking away on this fucking computer. Technology (see the internet) has saturated the marked with a million faggot as blogs that are so fucking stupid that its pathetic. Niggas go on the intrnet to see what’s poppin;

  172. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    @DBILLZ
    …co-sign on stic.man…where’s he at though?…its been a minute…how is M-1’s dolo joint?…

  173. Engineer Says:

    I’ve posted this before but it seems appropriate to re-post it because I can definately understand where Ghost is coming from. He’s not dissin his hometown, he’s just expressing dissapointment:

    I feel very badly about the state of my beloved hip hop. These radio dj¹s
    that came from the same beautiful music that we all love are playing a major
    role in killing it. My girl had the radio on while we did shit in the house
    for about 2 – 3 hours. I heard the same 4 or 5 songs about 6 times each.
    What the fuck is that. there are more that 4 or 5 artists so why are only a
    few getting shine? We all know that good is not what the radio plays. Radio
    is garbage and just like rap music, the corporation killed it. Even more
    than music, there is a lot of talk (shit talk and commercials) I can¹t stand
    it. And rappers today are more stupid than ever in history. Back in slave
    days, when just reading a book andtrying to educate yourself could get you
    lynched, people were far more intelligent. Now, there is information at arms
    length. this should be the smartest generation yet but it isn¹tŠ.Stupid
    mother fuckers are killing my beloved hip hop and any chance we have for
    respect and a better future

  174. D. Billz Says:

    Jamz… Lol, yeah that kinda sucks for the rest of yall. And when I was at the NYC show in March sellin’ CDs for ’em, they sold outta them shits quick. Mannnn, I was at soundcheck earlier that night helpin’ ’em set up and Brook played one of his new beats… that shit was like rockin’ a Northface snorkel in Arizona in July while driving a Pinto with no A/C… FUCKIN’ HOT! You know he do all them shits on his keyboard but the end result is RE-TARDED! Their tour manager “Filthy” (a Dominican from BK, so cliche), is the one who is really bustin’ his ass for them (no luis). Where are you located chief?

  175. D. Billz Says:

    @ The Lanlord… Great question. I heard it was actually decent but haven’t heard it myself. I might have to go to Sound Garden before the week is out and cop it. Btw, I heard he got one of the best deals on Koch EVER for the release of his album. Therefore I wish him much success with his solo venture. And I heard of ’em came out with a book about the art of rhyming. I believe it was stic.man, but I don’t remember.

  176. D. Billz Says:

    Random Thought: Is it me, or is a revolutionary, female DJ (which means she’s a hip hop head), who also happens to be bangin’, the perfect woman? I know I brought this up already, but the more I read this interview on Allhiphop, the more I want to stalk DJ Chela and Jean Grae, lol.

  177. Jamz Says:

    D Billz – Thanks for makin my patience even thinner by 40%! I’m in Detroit!

  178. Jamz Says:

    Jean Grae is no joke! She seems to be really level headed and nutz at the same time?

  179. Fuck-ny Says:

    eskay Says:

    May 8th, 2006 at 10:56 am
    Mr. Belabor, you don’t know what the fuck your talking about. We would’ve ate up Laffy Taffy if Dipset did it? Get the fuck outta here. We suck at hip hop commercially and artistically? Negro please. Papoose is better than any artist from whatever region your repping, I’ll put my life on it.

    You’ll put ya life on it? Well nigga, all i can say is………………………………..KILL YA SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HA!

  180. D. Billz Says:

    Jamz… Yeah, Jean is funny as hell yet got the illest content as far as her material is concerned. You in The D? I didnt’ know J*DaVey had fans all the way out there… that’s what’s up! How did you find out about ’em?

  181. Jamz Says:

    D Billz – I came up on them way back in early 2005! I downloaded a track off some site?? My man Waajeed of the Platinum Pied Pipers has really been positively speaking on them lately though! They have that same type vibe, like a spacey funk? When I’m not hiphopin…I’m vibin with PPP, Spacek, Plantlife, DJ Spinna, Dwele…and stuff like that! Where are you located?

  182. eskay Says:

    fuck-ny, eat a dick no homo. who’s your favorite rapper, or who is the best out right now in your opinion. (can’t wait to hear this one)

  183. doc la familia Says:

    that shit is true. the same DJs that be like “let bring it back…be the ones breaking miami artists before they break ny artists….

    cipha sounds broke j kwon before he even broke corey gunz…what type of ass backwards shit is that?

    i would say that shit…when ish go down here…dont nobody do nothing.

    the la riots….anyone?

  184. eskay Says:

    Landlord, Behold a Pale Horse? I’m shocked that you would even consider a book written by “massa” you racist bastard. How do you know that book isn’t part of the global conspiracy to keep the black man down by feeding him nonsense?

  185. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ thanks eskay damn made me fall off my chair i was laughing so damn hard now everyone at works thinks im out of my mind * stops and thinks for a second nope they already thought that anyway *

  186. Fuck-ny Says:

    eskay>jigga and jeezy bitch. And my nigga T.I.; Game; Lil Wayne; Rick Ross;Santana(fuck camron); Rakim; Pac; Biggie of course; Stat Quo; the list can go on and on. oh, and all of them are better than papoose or paposie or how ever the fuck u spell it.

  187. Fuck-ny Says:

    Not posted for a response. I’m gone!

  188. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    ..eskay, calm down we’ve moved on..wtf, you byron crawford now?…you barking up the wrong tree little doggie…i never said i hated crakkers…i just use the ethnic slurs for white folks as freely as others use NIGGA, they’re terms of endearment, sissy…so yeah, i read william m. cooper, a man who wasnt afraid to tell the truth and died for it…thats gangster, not all this petty talk about who right or wrong(i am)…when you say NIGGA or NEGRO please, is that racist? do we use these so-called terms of endearment so much that its OK for us to be referred to as such, but we cant use ethnic terms to signify white folks because OTHER black folks are offended…GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE…
    btw eskay who said this…
    “dog, this is a blog not your fucking Daily Unbiased Hip Hop News. I talk shit, that’s why people come here. either because they agree or want to argue with me. So now we’re not allowed to speak our opinions on shit?”
    …i guess only your opinions count…i am not a bastard, i am the the legitimate offspring of Junior and Joanie who were married and stayed so through my entire childhood and adolescence…

  189. D. Billz Says:

    @ Jamz… I’m in Baltimore, chief. And I’ve just become a fan of them this year when I was helpin’ them with shows back in January. They did their first East Coast show in D.C. and I was there to help ’em out. I’m feelin’ Dwele’s “Weekend Love” (no cam)… those horns on there are crazy.

    “i am not a bastard, i am the the legitimate offspring of Junior and Joanie”

    ^^ Lol @ that… “legitimate offspring”. I, too, was raised in that manner.

  190. eskay lover Says:

    surely my snookems eskay didnt mean to say that papoose was better than scarface.

  191. the Landlord AKA Conspiracy Brother Says:

    @eskay
    CLARIFICATION
    …all seriousness…i do call white folks devils…or crakkkers
    …i do not think the white man is the devil…
    …i do not think the black man is GOD…
    …i see nigga and niggas, niggers, whatever all over this site, with NO COMPLAINT..
    stop being so fucking sensitive…its WORDS…
    eskay, if you cant under/overstand, you have my email address, holla at me then we could exchange info and have REAL dialogue, homes
    …the point i have trying to make for while now is this…our culture IS being dumbed down by forces real AND imagined, and for us to sit by shucking and jiving and cooning, and making fun ourselves does nothing to help us…that aint racist that’s fact…there are black devils and white devils, its just that the black devils are harder to identify because we want to love them as our own…the “so-called white devils(not all of them,ok)” are so obvious and steadfast in their destruction of our and other cultures, they make inviting and easy targets…their treatment of us may not be as physicallly restricting as in the past, but they still try to enslave us spiritually and economically and sociologically, so i will never lay down my sword…

  192. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    LANDLORD I AGREE THERE IS NO WORD WORST THE THE N BOMB BUT IF YOU CHECK MY POST I DONT EVER USE IT UNLESS IM QUOTING SOMEONE, BUT TO THINK BECAUSE THERE KIDS SAYING THE N BOMB ON HERE MAYBE SOME GROWN ASS MEN ( IM SURE THEIR BLACK ATLEAST ) TO SAY WHITE DEVIL IS A CRAZY EXTREME I MEAN HONESTLY I DONT EVER GET BOTHERED BY WHAT SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET SAYS TO ME BUT YOU CALL MY MOMS A DEVIL AND WE GOT ISSUES AND IF YOU EVER MET MY MOM YOU WOULD SLAP YOURSELF FOR SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AFTER MEETING MY MOM

  193. IllyricalLucci Says:

    I feel Ghostface on what he’s saying we got to bring the beast out of the East! we can’t fall off we started this rap shit. but what fucked us up was we let the white man in on our fortune, instead of standing up we played the hungry hopeless and desperate roll back then rapped was strickley black now it’s just some fake ass plastic surgery white washed barbie doll eurocentric hype bullshit. there arn’t any blacks (natural blacks) there are all light skinned damn near white people.Or some hood rat with eurocentric features where are all the real black people @? I don’t understand? That’s like saying The people of the pyramids were whites all I’m saying is black people need to have pride in them selves and stop trying to be like the white man who wants to destroy ther black beauty! real talk
    1love2Boston3’sup4eva

  194. RUMBL3BUMSKI Says:

    DAMN, SHIT GOT DEEP IN HERE. IF YOU WANT SOME REAL KNOWLEDGE CHECK THIS OUT:

    http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/excerpt.htm

    this is a white man with better knowledge of us(BLACKS) than ourselves
    TRUST ME THIS BOOK WILL CHANGE YA LIFE IF YOU CAN UDERSTAND,JUST DO SOME REASEARCH!!!!

  195. The only Tyrone Biggums hater Says:

    hey ty ty aka boo boo snookems,

    I guess I am your only hater, and I appreciate when you say hi to me in your posts. I am a jealous boy(yes homo). I am your only hater and there should be none before me. Ya dig booboo. When you say hi, only put hater and not haters cause remember I am your only hater. No one else cares to hate, but me. Shouldn’t that count for something. With love and kisses snookems, see ya later.

  196. Solaine Says:

    Wow, this thread is out of control. Anyway I have two points once you boys are done measuring your dicks, haha.

    1. Ghost speaks the truth about rap, and Diallo, but I didn’t see him leading up the movement on either issue. Regarding Diallo, there were lots of protests, and Wyclef even did a whole song dedicated to Diallo. In fact, in Akon’s joint “Africa” he talks about Diallo. I agree that as a community, we all should’ve protested harder in the Diallo trial, and I think Ghost has a good point, but he shouldn’t make it seem like the hip hop community failed when it was the global community — not just Black — folk that should’ve stood up for Diallo.

    2. Regarding rap, I’m with Ghost — mainstream rap, bumped on the radio, is all about commercializing the game — but this has happened with all music that becomes popular that Black folk master, ie. Elvis Presley and rock n roll; Blues; Jazz; Reggae etc.

    Even though I am critical of Ghost’s perspectives, I think it’s good that he’s bringing these issues up and, in general, appealing to fans and artists to step their games up. I just think, if you want to criticize, be a leader, too.

    As far as the Eskay haters, you do have the perogative to leave this site. You don’t see me on Michelle Malkin’s site talking shit to her, I excerise my right to NOT give her an attention — you’d do well to deal with your shit in a more productive way, start your own blog and stop wasting everyone’s time with your stupid comments.

  197. eskay Says:

    *applauds Solaine*

  198. fuck-ny Says:

    Fuck u Solaine and Fuck u Eskay! U shouldn’t have a site like this if you can’t take any shots yourself. Stupid mutha fuckers! Solaine stop dick riddin. Shit you’re probably eskay gay ass just changing his name. How weak is that. I knew u were gay man!

  199. jersey Says:

    Jizza made a video w/ him getting shot similar to the diallo shooting as well.

  200. jersey Says:

    Jigga

  201. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    NAD I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE HIP-HOP FOR RESPECT EP THAT TALIB MOS DEF COMMON DEAD PREZ AND OTHERS DID THEY PUT OUT AN EP SPECIFICLLY FOR DIALLO AND THE PROCEEDS WENT TO HIS FAMILY AND SHIT.

    IS THERE ANY OTHER PERSON ON THIS SITE AT ALL THAT HAS EVERY SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS EP? AM I THE ONLY ONE?

  202. Raf-BK Says:

    I am the writer who interviewed Ghostface for the Prefix article and I think what Ghost was trying to convey is that New York has lost its identity over the years. Being born and raised in Brooklyn I can tell you that the City has definitely changed over the years primarily because of genetrification and the creation of a Guiliani police state. Not to sound overly nostalgic but if you go to any hip-hop shows in New York the crowd for the most part is tame and lame, back in the day groups like Wu-Tang got banned from playing in New York because their fans would tear up the venue. New York defintely needs to support its artists, but we have to given a reason to support our artists, bottom line the quality of music needs to improve.

    I think while everyone is getting caught up in Ghost’s statement “Fuck New York” we are overlooking the more important statement he is making about New York DJs and the industry. For those involved in the buisness, they know how rampant payola is on both the radio and television. Payola is what is destorying hip-hop, in order to get on to MTV and BET money must be exchanged, the “countdown” is no more than an indicator of who is willing to pay big bucks for air-time. While Ghost’s anger may be mis-directed, the industry is more to blame than individual DJs, they are just a part of the machine.

  203. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    RAF-BK – REAL TALK AND I THINK MOST OF US UNDERSTAND THIS THEN ONES WHO ARE STILL TWISTING THIS SHIT AROUND AND NOT GRASPING ARE THE NORMAL GHOAST HATERS WHO ARE STILL PISSED SINCE HE DISS D4L AT THAT ONE SHOW. SOME AND I REPEAT SOME PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH ARE SO TOUCHY THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY THEY CAN TURN IT INTO AN INSULT AGAINST THEM, BUT NOW COME TO THINK OF IT SOME AND AGAIN I REPEAT SOME NY CATS ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME SHIT. YOUR RIGHT ITS DEFINTELY A DJ PROBLEM * COUGH FUNKMASTER FLEX COUGH *BUT ITS ALSO A CONSUMER PROBLEM AND MORE SO A LEBEL PROBLEM CAUSE LIKE I ALWAYS ITS NOT LIKE PEOPLE LIKE GHOST’S SALES ARE GOING DOWN CAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ITS JUST IT USED TO BEIF YOU WENT GOLD YOU WERE THE SHIT KNOW LABELS WANT 5 TIMES PLAT ALBUMS AND THATS IT.

    “Your first week ain’t right, they can’t fuck wit ’em/
    Now if you don’t sell 5 mill, they had enough of ’em/
    Let me find out Hip Hop’s turnin’ REPUBLICIAN “

  204. R-FIGGZ Says:

    NYC really needs to weed out these wannabe’s.
    First and foremost get rid of the gang signs and bandanas, that is not NYC.
    Secondly bring back “Mellie Mel” so he can school this lost NYC generation on how real NYC niggaz roll……

  205. TEXAS SOLIDER Says:

    MAAAN WHAT IT DO? SUP TO ALL MY NIGGAS OUT THE SOUFF.DEEZ NIGGAS CANT STAND IT.I LOVE IT WHEN DEEZ NY RAPPERS DICK RIDE THE SOUFF.
    I NEVER HEARD GHOSTFACE RAP BUT I JUST MIGHT GET HIS NEXT SHIT B/C HE KEPT IT 100.NAAAAW IM LYING NEVER SUPPORT NY SHIT.
    ON JANUARY 1, 2000 NY RAP WAS MURDERED FROM SEVERE LYRICAL ATTACKS FROM THE SOUFF.AT APPROXIMATELY 9:00AM THE DOCTORS TOOK NY OFF LIFE SUPPORT.

    R.I.P. NY

    WE DONT HAVE TO STAND UP, WE ALREADY STANDING……..SOUFF!

    DALLAS S.W.A.T.

  206. TEXAS SOLIDER Says:

    “WE COME DOWN IN CANDY LAC SLABS, YAWL ROLL IN FUNNY ASS JEEPS”-PIMP C

    “YAWL MIGHT BE JAMMIN TO THEM , BUT YAWL SHITTY TO US”-BUN B

    “YOU GETS NO PLAY IN TEXAS, YA SHIT DONT BUMP IN THE TRUNK” PIMP C

    DALLAS S.W.A.T.

  207. eskay Says:

    ^ yeah those lines were real lyrical. and I like all three of those guys but tell them to step their rap game up

  208. R-FIGGZ Says:

    Mellie Mel if you out there baby pa the game needs you right now!!!
    These youngin’s have no role models in their life, it’s time for the real NYC niggaz to represent the true New York!!.
    These fucking little fatherless bastards in the 5 boroughs are going out like suckaz trying to be west coast gangsters, this is so fucking sac religous!!!.
    To all you young knuckleheads especially juelz santana if we ever see you ducks rolling through the hood or the subway with those fucking bandanas we gonna choke you with them shits!!!.
    Take off those fucking bandanas, NYC is Black Spades, La Familia, Savage Nomads, ching – a-lings, Ghetto Brothers, Zulu Nation, Baby Nomads, Mercedes Young Ladies, Murda Mamiz, etc & etc!!!, not fucking crips and bloods!.
    It’s motherfucking duck season this summer in The NYC so guard your grill!!

  209. Tragedy Styles Says:

    Damn. Charles Barkley better do something about this.

    T-Angel
    Mighty Leauge/Tragedy Styles

  210. Tragedy Styles Says:

    One more thing. Ghostface Killah. Happy Belated Birthday my nigga. Tell the team to go back to school and I don’t mean the Wu Tang Clan.

  211. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    TEXAS SOLIDER Says:
    May 10th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
    “WE COME DOWN IN CANDY LAC SLABS, YAWL ROLL IN FUNNY ASS JEEPS”-PIMP C

    “YAWL MIGHT BE JAMMIN TO THEM , BUT YAWL SHITTY TO US”-BUN B

    “YOU GETS NO PLAY IN TEXAS, YA SHIT DONT BUMP IN THE TRUNK” PIMP C

    DALLAS S.W.A.T.

    THATS FUNNY I MEAN LISTEN IM A UGK FAN AND ALL BUT HOW YOU GONNA HATE ON NY AND BRING THEM UP, WHATS THE MOST FAMOUS SONG THEY EVER DID ? WHO IS THE ONLY REASON 75 % OF HIP-HOP FANS HAVE EVEN HEARD OF THEM ? O YEA THATS RIGHT THAT WAS JAY-Z WHERE IS HE FROM O YEA NEW YORK.

    I GOT A MESSAGE TO THE SOUTH FROM NEW YORK CITY ( DONT GET MAD AT ME IM JUST THE MESSANGER )

    ” I BROUGHT YOU IN THIS GAME AND ILL DAMN SURE TAKE YOUR BITCHES OUT”

    JUST WAIT FOR THIS YEARS NY LINEUP YOU’LL SEE WHO IS STILL RUNNING THIS SHIT. THE SOUTH GOT CANDY PAINT, IMPALAS, ROBOTUSSIN ON LOCK THATS ABOUT IT O YEA CANT FORGET ABOUT THAT SNAP MUSIC YOU ALWAYS GOT THAT SHIT TO FALL BACK ON

  212. catch 22 Says:

    dear houston, atlanta, memphis, new orleans, etc,

    you are doing it now, but we did it better.

    love,
    new york

    p.s. no homo

    even the biggest names in hou-tex can’t fuck with the biggest names in ny. real talk.

  213. catch 22 Says:

    p.s. little brother, scarface, outkast. the above letter does not pertain to you.

  214. BLACK ROBYN HOOD Says:

    WELL NEW YORK IT HURTS TO EAT THE SAME SHIT U FED OTHERS 4 YEARS I REMEMBER WHEN NOBODY FROM THE WEST COAST OR SOUTH COULD HAVE THEIR BANGAS PLAYED ON EAST COAST RADIO NOW ITS A MATTER OF SOMETHING CALLED KARMA TAKING THE EFFECT . PLUS HOW LONG DID YOU THINK YOU COULD SHUT DOORS ON EVERY BODY UNTIL ONE DAY OTHERS WAS GOING TO JUST SPREAD OUT MAKE THEY OWN LANE AND SHUT YOU OUT…….. DON’T CRY GHOST YOU HAD YOUR RUN AND I’AM SURE NEW YORK, OR L.A WILL BE RUNNING SHIT AGAIN BUT UNTIL THEN LET THE SOUTH GET THEIR JUST DUE THEM CATS BE GRINDING FOR THE LONGEST

  215. TEXAS SOLIDER Says:

    tyronebiggums71

    U A HO

  216. TEXAS SOLIDER Says:

    FUCK JERSEY

  217. TEXAS SOLIDER Says:

    JERSEY LOOKS LIKE A CIVI. WAR ZONE TRUST ME I BEEN THERE, WE MAYBE “BAMMAS” LIKE YALL CALL US BUT AT LEAST WE CAN KEEP OUR LAND CLEAN

    FUCK U

    AND YOUR CITY

  218. h-town reppa Says:

    dont yall get it…or see that there is no more “real hip-hop” anymore..that shit died along time ago..so you can take your tissues and go cry in the corner with ghostface.

  219. eskay Says:

    >>FUCK U

    >>AND YOUR CITY

    Jersey is a state Einstein

    >>dont yall get it…or see that there is no more “real hip-hop” anymore

    sure there is I don’t know what world you live in, but I post about real hip hop here nearly every day.

  220. Tipple HC Says:

    Yeah, fuck New York.

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