Dame Dash: I’m Bin Laden

dame_state.jpg 

In an interview with King Magazine, Dame opened up about the Rocafella split and his feelings about Jay. He was a little less tactful then he was in that video I posted the other day:

My best friend did some s— to me that I never thought in a million years he would do," Dash rages in the upcoming King magazine, complaining that Beyoncé’s boyfriend shoved him aside. "It was straight war in there. Either you on Jay’s side or Dame’s side."

Dash adds: "The perception is that Def Jam bought Roc-A-Fella. Jay’s the president of Def Jam. I’m Bin Laden. You could either be with Bin Laden or be with [Jay-Z]. … You know what I’m saying?"

The embittered Dash goes on: "Remember they put in the paper that I lost my deal? That wasn’t true. They tried to freeze my projects. We’d go to [the office] and they’d have my picture, saying not to let us in the building. … I was painted as a violent guy."

I think Dame should just let Cam write a dis track to Jay for him. He obviously has alot he needs to get off his chest, but he continues to beat around the bush.


AddThis Social Bookmark Button

129 Responses to “Dame Dash: I’m Bin Laden”

  1. Luis Says:

    HAHAHAHA BIN LADEN!!!!

  2. streetwise Says:

    2nd!

  3. E From BK Says:

    Shady

  4. doc holiday Says:

    “The perception is that Def Jam bought Roc-A-Fella. Jay’s the president of Def Jam. I’m Bin Laden. You could either be with Bin Laden or be with [Jay-Z]. … You know what I’m saying?”
    this will be going into the negro please section of XXL’s next issue.

  5. doc holiday Says:

    lol@ them dude paper blocking…not letting him in the building. i heard DD was a wild dude though.

  6. jersey Says:

    Would somebody put something in this N*gga’s mouth my zipper broke!!!!…Damn N*gga stop munf*ckin cryin!!!!!!…For christ sakes You know you done!!!no mas!!!!….finish!!!!…..put uh fork in him!!!……4real though the more dame opens his mouth the more money he puts in jay account..lol…He talk like a nigga who lost his bitch!!!!….Im losing…pardon me…I done loss respect for that nigga when he gave the winner on his show a fuckin cherokee!!!!!…Ha ha ha ha ..lame ass…

  7. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    SERIOUSLY DAME GO AWAY YOUR A WRAP. FUCK YOU AND CAM STOP YOU BITCHING. OOO JAY TOOK THE ROC-A-FELLA NAME ( MOTHERUCKER YOU THINK YOU DESERVED HIS MASTERS? THATS REALLY WHAT THE WHOEL SHIT WAS ABOUT JAY WANTED HIS MASTERS 100% HIMSELF ) HE GOT THEM SO DAME CANT GET PAID OFF HIM NO MORE HE HAS TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO LEACH ON TO AND UNFORTUNITLY FOR DAME THAT PERSON IS CAM AND HE IS A JOKE AND THEY WILL BOTH BE GONE REAL SOON NEVER TO BE HEARD FROM AGAIN ( O WHAT A GLORIOUS DAY )

  8. Foekist Says:

    What does he mean by the Big Laden analogy?

  9. Damu Says:

    I never liked Dame Dash, ever. I seen dude as an arrogant, self-centered, egotistical, manipulative dick. So its hard 4 me 2 feel pity 4 him. Plus, Jay-Z is my favorite rapper. All that said… I’d love 2 know really what went on behind closed doors. Watching old footage of them together you get the impression that they was pretty tight. But in all honesty, who could be tight with a dickheadlike Dash? Seriously like, he is a hateful bastard. I reckon that it will take Dame 2 say something outta line 4 Jigga 2 respond. So, Dame, if ur reading this….. keep running ur mouth homie. PLEASE!!!!

  10. el_feces_loco Says:

    @jersey..you know nothing about marketing and promotions…what would you give someone you that only proved to you that they can maybe order a cup of coffee for you?..A brand new house on star island? with a bentley right?….its obvious JEEP sponsored a show that was produced by BET, which would mean jeep/BET had a say so in what the prize was…….the lameness lies within you my brother.

    At least Dame had a show tryna help kids get on in whatever capacity..Where is Jay? What show has jay done?..Where is Jays voice when Bush shits on us? or where is jay showin young rappers/entrepreneurs how to get in the game? Nowhere…I said this before..You neggas get caught up in face value…Dame made the Roc..Jay has no business sense, Jay will tell you himself, he didnt even like goin to meetings for his own music,..much less a tei marie meeting?…Dame and biggs made all those moves..its cool tho when Def Jam aka LA FACE RECORDS fire jay we will all see just who was the brains…I wish black folks could see whos who in this game..dame holds Beens down in jail, doesnt get any credit for that but he gets shitted on and laughed at when Beens switches and goes with Jay?…Dame be in the hood apron on servin turkeys and toys..where Jay at?..thats NAH RIGHT.

    I’m big on analogies so here goes on…MONEY IS LIKE WEED..ID RATHER SIT AND SMOKE SOME BUNK WEED WITH MY REAL CLOSE FRIENDS..THAN BURN A BLUNT OF SOME 100 HAZE ALONE…MONEY IS NOTHING..WEED IS IS MY ANTI DRUG.

    SMH@ JAY SIGNIN RICK ROSS? YOUNG JOC? CORY GUNZ? TEI MARIE?…RIHANNA? NE YO?…YEA DEF JAM IS BACK ..YEA RIGHT?

  11. BronxRap.com Says:

    Oh well nigga there’s always FUBU.

  12. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    Ultimate HUSTLER

  13. Damu Says:

    Ayo, el_feces_loco
    I agree 2 a certain extent. But still it doesn’t hide the fact that Dame is a mouth. He is a loud obnoxious dick and karma is a muthafucka… You say that he did this and that and held beans down when dude was in jail… Motherfucker ain’t that what you supposed 2 do? Why didn’t jay hold him down the same? Who is to say he didn’t? Plus… how many times has Jay tried to holler in homies ear? ‘Beans I ain’t try to change, just give u some game’ REMEMBER? Fuck, I would have been fed up trying to talk some sense into Beans. I love Beans’ muzik too… but come on to fuck… there is only so much NRG u can put in2 some1 b4 u say fuck him. Bottom line- Dame and Beans both fucked they selfs in they ass. Jay will be the last man standing coz he is a smarter dude.
    Uno

  14. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    Dame Dash seems like he got a serious ATTITUDE problem, rolling his eyes like a lil 7 year old girl! He is too Cocky! IIght so Jay played him, as HE claims! But HE HAS CAM’RON right????

    lol

    dd takes an l

  15. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    Side note: is that jim jones in the background !
    lol

  16. buscoliti Says:

    Dame is a bittered soul. I think Karma came in the case of him. They always say you reap what you sow. He got it coming to him. Not too many people liked this guy and his self-indulged, haughty, arrogant ways got the best of him.

    Jay had more business say than a lot of people thought. He is no dummy. Why would def jam hire him, if they didnt think he didnt handle any business with the roc?

    Def jam is a business. Jay-z is a business man. People are still enslaved and jailed behind bars in their mind when they think that Jay is only suppose to put out rap acts. Do you complain to The universal president when he puts out different genres of music? I dont see anyone complianing about J records and why the president puts out different forms of music. He would only be limiting his paper if he just put out street music. Why can’t black business man evolve, why is that just because they are black they have to put a certain type of music out. It’s senseless.

  17. el_feces_loco Says:

    I guess I’m the resident Dame Dash stan, I dont like when the media/corporate structure succesfully gets us to separate and conquer each other all they do is provide a “ROC” (pun intended) and we run with it…Ive been around both dudes a few times I wouldnt say we friends but I rubbed elbows with them…seein them now compared to when I first met em I can honestly say that Dame hasnt changed a bit, Hov on the other hand has changed and I dont mean by his way of dress…Im not sayin he changed for good or bad he has just changed…Dame has my respect cause he never conformed to the corporate structure..He reminds meof a young Don KIng we as niggas need niggas liek that..niggas that dont conform..fuck your suit fuck your tie..as gay as russellis he never conformed to the corporate structure either which is why Def Jam was as great as it was…it was unique..cause it was ours..It didnt pull up in no bentley with no button up..it took the train over here, rubbed elbows with the common folks.

    Armadale=Dame..I remember one interview they had when Dame says he was leavin in a second to go to Ireland to check on gettin a vodka comp.

    Team Roc= Dame’s idea..team roc is very active in NYC providing after school help and shit for kids

    Dash/dibella Boxing= Boxing promotion Co. he started

    Man lemmi stop Jay Z has never ever started shit by his own self..inmy opinion it doesnt take business acumen to answer yes when Bruce Ratner calls you asking if you got “3 million for a %1 minority stake in a 300 million dollar company”

    “Ratner recruited Jay-Z and a number of prominent Brooklynites with the idea of moving the franchise from the swamps of New Jersey to downtown Brooklyn. He plans to build a 19,000-seat arena in time for the 2006-2007 NBA season as part of a $2.5 billion development project, although the plan faces community opposition.
    Jay-Z holds a minority interest in the team.”

  18. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    In the XXL Jay said Dame and Biggs could have had everything, all he wanted was the masters to Reasonable Doubt, and them niggas said no. Jay would have just walked away, but they were too greedy. Now he crying to anybody who will listen. Dame and Biggs said you don’t negotiate with friends. Thats way there in the position that there in.

  19. Damu Says:

    ^^^^^Seriously? Holy shit… Still, Dame Dash is a dick! lol

  20. Damu Says:

    MadeInMilwaukee is right

  21. el_feces_loco Says:

    @damu…Its just certain shit that you do and you dont do damu, thats whats wrong with younger generation way of thinkin..niggas have no loyalty…no backbones…anything s justified as long as you got paid for it..Jay shitted on Dame for a bullshit azz publishing (reasonable doubt) which is the weakest of all the publishings in the roc’s catalogue…look at that video If u can when “the skinny negga on the boat” was realer…Notice anything? Yes you do dame is still wilding poppin champagne on hoes, actin a fool, being young black rich and rebellious, not giving a fuck about LIAR COHEN or them suits up at Def Jam…who has changed? ….Jigga.. now he’d prolly say some shit like “Dame chill your gonna soil my cummerbund with all that champagne”…..Dude shitted on his homie for small change….you all cant tell me that the reasonable doubt publishin is worth 400 million?..which he is supposedly worth now.

  22. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ EXACTLY EVERYONE IS ACTING LIKE JAY DID THEM DIRT BUT ALL HE WANTED WAS HIS MASTERS AND WHY THE FUCK SHOULDNT HE BE ENTITLED TO HIS MASTERS, BUT DAME AND BIGGS DIDNT WANT TO COME OFF THAT AND THEY WERE ACTING LIKE THAT SHIT WAS THEEIR MASTER’S THAT SHIT WAS JAY’S WORK HEART AND SOUL HIS WORDS NOT THEIRS OF COURSE JAY DESERVED THE MASTERS AND WE HAVE TO HEAR HOW JAY DID THEM DIRTY

  23. MaddenMaster Says:

    No body will admit it but the main reason why people hate 50 is because he’s real direct and in your face and to weak people that makes them feel threatened…. No w with that being sad that is the same reason other than talent that Jay is so widely love and thats because Jay was captain cool never an in your face kinda guy and even when he beefed he always walked away smelling like roses because most of the time it was other cats just “throwing rocks at the throne” but I still never heard nobody other than nas say fuck Jay Z hes the tiger woods of HipHop universally respected because there is no real fear there now I said all that to say this…. Is it ok to respect somebody just because you don’t view them as a threat even after they do cats that are damn near family like Jay did Biggs and Dame? It would be like Biggie taking Bad Boy from puff as shady as puff is Big was the franchise but Bad Boy was still Puff dream just like The RoC was Dame dream and his creation not to mention to be accurate about it Dame was the brains behind the ROC and being a good dude he gave Jay the franchise a serious role as oppose to pimping him which should be respected but Jay still shit on dude, Why couldn’t dame keep control over the RoC and Jay run Def-Jam and be extra good to his peeps?? I can’t respect that…

    Jay-Z is the Tiger Woods of rap…. GE CAN DO NO WRONG!! EVEN WHEN HES WRONG

  24. eskay Says:

    el_feces, you got it twisted about Jay. every Christmas he’s up in Marcy givin’ out gifts. he stays donating to charity, Katrina, the Tsunami, Columbine.

    >>where is jay showin young rappers/entrepreneurs how to get in the game?

    he started the Carter Academy to do just that.

  25. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    ok Jay probably did do Dame wrong! But my take on it is the AFTERMATH! So what does he do know? What does he want from him? Why keep poppin off at the mouth? Let me know how productive it is to tell people this

  26. Damu Says:

    I gotta sat that I love this and you guys (no brokeback) for posting your points of view. After reading everything that you fellas have 2 say… and as much as I really don’t like Dame… I gotta say that i agree with a lot of what ur saying. Jay did Dame dirty. True. But I reckon there is a lot more than what meets the eye.

  27. el_feces_loco Says:

    @ busco..yea my mechanic knows how to change the oil in my honda civic without spillin a ounce….dont mean id let the negga build me a Rolls Royce from scratch…
    Show me one business jay started by himself?…Please dude…you gettin jayz rappin and his business acumen confused with each other…jay never even really sold drugs by himself or like he says…so..i cant even give him that much..Jay z got “on” when PIERRE CARDIN got locked up and “left him” some work…If you notice when he raps about goin O.T. with work he always raps about only that one time with the cop dogs, work in the glove box and how he almost got busted..WHY?… cause he only made one trip…he was rapping and suckin NAS dikk “callin my house and I aint even give u my numbers”… being the openin act for an openin act(LARGE PROFESSOR)..he didnt make a squeak till he got with who? WHO? WHO WAS THAT AGAIN? DAME DASH MEANS LIFE NEGGA…hahaha

  28. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    HOW IS WANTING YOUR OWN MASTERS DOING DAME DIRTY THATS REALLY ALL THAT HAPPENED HERE? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY JAY WANTING HIS OWN MASTERS IS A GRIMEY MOVE?

  29. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    Didnt he recently say that “Him and Jay were cool” so what is with all the phonyness!
    Thats the part that I dont get-

    When the Roc was on and poppin, I dont remember Dame hollerin at Camron, going places with Camron, chilin with Camron. I do remember his apperance in the OH BOY video-Camrons only hit, but I dont remember him TRYING TO MAKE CAMRON A part of the Roc-a-fella FAMILY-(isnt that what Camron COMPLAINED ABOUT)
    But now that shit is SOUR
    I do see Dame with Cam, I hear Cam talking bout Dame’s problems!
    Now he chillin hard with Camron!

    I understand that they were ALWAYS cool and whatever. But now its more visible than ever! Basically Dame tags along with Money! He wants to make a profit or a statement at that! So who is really wrong?

  30. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    He is phony ballony! He needs Jay in his life

  31. Damu Says:

    Yo didn’t Dame try to make Posh Spice a superstar again? lol Seriously like, is it any wonder Jay stepped away. And another thing… on the song, My 1st Song, from the Black Album, didn’t Jay say? ‘Wot up Dash? Robbing the bank!’ I reckon that Dame, being as a money gready bastard that he is, stole $$$$ from Jay.

  32. She's So Real Says:

    I strongly doubt that anyone sees Dame as a “violent guy”.

  33. Damu Says:

    ‘Dame whattup? Robbin the bank
    Niggaz thought we was crazy man, ‘member uhh
    You had that fucked up ass handwritin
    You was writin all the numbers that we was spendin now
    for the videos we was doin ourselves, whattup?
    Original Flavor, your accountant was crazy wrong and shit
    But we we still put it together’

  34. Damu Says:

    there u have it

  35. el_feces_loco Says:

    @ eskay..yea..everyone gives out turkeys at thanksgiving thats easy..I saw Dame last week at the Golden Gloves promoting boxing to the kids that were there. Im not tryna shit on Jay dont get me wrong..I love Jay as a rapper, as a black man i feel like he no longer matters, he is no longer relevant to me, he is a conformist and in my opinion now he is a part of the body and not the engine of this car called hip hop…and right now HIP HOP is a bentley with a lawn mower engine.

    @made..Jay was so much of a business man that he went totally against Dame signin Kanye West…then after wKanye blows up he stays with jay makin Jay look like such a great business man…but Dame is the idiot dikkhead right?..Why didnt Jay say to Kanye..naw fuck Dame but he still my fam Id rather you stay with him he really wanted you as an artist…Why didnt he?

    I just admire loyalty…If i was Jay I couldnt seriously shit on dame like that especially if Im rich already..its even worse cause we both rich….

    I wont be proven right until sometime late lnext year or 2?..when Def Jam “decides to go in another direction”..then Jay can go run his lil Cosciuos Jams Label into the ground by himself.

  36. doc holiday Says:

    SMH@ JAY SIGNIN RICK ROSS? YOUNG JOC? CORY GUNZ? TEI MARIE?…RIHANNA? NE YO?…YEA DEF JAM IS BACK ..YEA RIGHT?

    he signed cory gunz!? when was this!? he also signed some dude from b-more named young leak aka b rich jr. ‘member him?

  37. Damu Says:

    ‘HIP HOP is a bentley with a lawn mower engine.’ lol

  38. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    ^^ i dont know about the FUTURE of the ROC! Thats actually a good point!

  39. Elz Says:

    Who’s the Next King Of NY???? anyone………

  40. el_feces_loco Says:

    smh @ you niggas..so ok say Im a artist and I sign to you and you give me part ownership of the label also…Are those still only your masters?..Arent they half mine?..Oh so I should give you my company and let you have all your masters?…IF THEY WERE ONLY YOUR MASTERS..THEN WHY WOULD YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ASK ME FOR THEM?..THATS LIKE ESKAY ASKIN TO GET MY COMPUTER CAUSE I USED IT TO LOG ONTO HIS SITE…DONT MAKE SENSE..
    smh at bein 40 worth 400 million but you shit on your boy/business partner/brother for maybe a milion dollars in publishing???…and yall think that that is bein real?

  41. E From BK Says:

    Manhattan keeps on makin’ it; Brooklyn keeps on…………. you know the rest

  42. MaddenMaster Says:

    Biggums its crazy to me that you can’t see the wrong in shit but if curt says anything he’s the worse person in the fucking free world….. Jay did Dame dirty bottomline…… WRONG IS WRONG AND PUSHING YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER OUT OF ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS THAT YALL CREATED TOGETHER IS WRONG!!! NOW NO I’M NOT A DAME FAN, HE WACK TO ME BUT BIGGS AND DAMN E.P. EVERY JAY-Z ALBUM!!! THE ROC IS DAME COMPANY, HIS BABY, HIS BRAIN CHILD AND NOW HE’S BEEN FROZEN OUT OF THAT AND YEA THIS MIGHT NOT HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH THE THREAD BUT WHY CAN’T JOE BUDDEN DROP ON DEF JAM BUT RICK ROSS, NY JEEZY AND ALL THESE OTHER WANNABES CAN? SERIOUSLY MAN COME ON…. EVERYBODY JAY HAS EVERY DELT WITH HAS CALLED HIM A SHITTY FRIEND BUT HE’S STILL PROTECTED!!! 50 SHITS ON A DUDE THAT GOT ROOTS WITH HIM AND REAL STREET ISSUES WITH HIM AND HES THE FUCKING ANTI CHRIST MAN COME ON THINK ABOUT THE POSITION YOUR TAKING…….

  43. el_feces_loco Says:

    yea cory gunz might be the best of all these signings..young leak is trash,from what i hear but hey Jay is a GREAT BUSINESSMAN so hey I guess young leak is the next jay z..Dej Jam is prolly like %80 r n b now apart from Young Jeezy, Juelz and Ghost they really have no street cred…Like someone one said DEF JAM is the new LAFACE RECORDS.
    go take a look..http://www6.defjam.com/site/home.php who the fukk is bobby? rihanna? isley brothers is cool but?..megan rochelle?..but?..this label is weak on the hip hop front and I dont see Jay or La reid makin them get much better.

  44. SoundNexx Says:

    Along time ago I read something where Jay was quoted saying that he felt Dame was just using his career to get famous and advertise his products! Jay was doing all of the hard work, while Dame was just lavishing in the glory and success?? Dame came off very cocky to me, not confident! If you let him tell it, he is the true creator and mastermind behind everything?? If that’s the case, he should be able to recover quite well from this slight stumble he’s taken? We shall see……

  45. BBN2 Says:

    That nigga Dame Dash should grateful if u ask me. If a nigga made me millions for over a ten year period an branded a name I was able to eat off of by making clothin&sneakers with his million dollar mouth piece I would b a happy mufucka. Especially if I did’nt have no type of special talent myself. With out Jay Dame would’nt be caked up right now period. If his hustle game is so exquisite then why have’nt he been able to break any new artist are sell records on his own? I mean if they disbanded as business partners(Jay,Dame,Biggs)an he had millions to do his own thang I would been happy to start my own shit an get all the doe with out havin to split the profits three ways ya dig. I feel Dame got something to prove as a entreprenuer he has’nt proven to b the ultimate hustler. What’s up with the Dame Dash music group? Time is money speakin in a hustlas language an he wastin time in these magazines because that not payin for a interview

  46. MaddenMaster Says:

    They were a team and they each had there own duties…. Jay was the Franchise and Dame was the Brains…RoC-wear, Vodka, and all that other shit now maybe Jay saw 50 creating all that shit on his own and selling the fuck out of the 50 Cent brand with no strings attached and though to himeself “Hey why should I share when I’m the franchise” the problem with that thought is the fact that there relationship is over 10 years long and it would be like 50 cutting ShaMoney out of everything….. and fuck Curtis but the only reason I use him as an example is because he seems like the only one that has been taking care of the serious core of his team…. Dre really doesn’t do it shit Snoop was his first protege’, Fat Joe got Links cut up, look at Nas and his crew, man and really the list goes on!!! Its sick to see the level of loyalty in the game… It really is….especially coming from the NY niggas…

  47. Foekist Says:

    I think there may be even more to this story that many don’t know about. I wouldn’t be surprised.

  48. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    How did Jay do him dirty? He would have let them have the clothing company, armadale, record company, the entire back catalog and evrything else. All he wanted was the right to one album and he would have walked away ith nothing but that. Where is the shadyness in that. Jay was the one that stood to lose everything. Jay aint no angel but I don’t see where he wrong on this one. Even if he did do him wrong, if you truly a hustler you can get that back. God will make sure you get that back.

  49. ObviouslyMoreFocusedThanU Says:

    first i would like to know if el feces is dame’s father/boyfriend/bestfuckinfriend/brother or something of the sort cause you seem to be totally caught up in his life and defending his honor…..second let me say this….they are both rich, smart, and will probably never run out of money…so all this beefing is really stupid…its really high school to go to a magazine and talk about somebody….just as it was stupid for the lox and puff daddy to be arguing over the air, for bow wow to make comments about will smith in xxl, and so forth…..instead of seperating and beefing, we as black people need to come together…..how we gonna come from slavery and still be divided…..what kind of shit….this rap shit turns me off more and more…i only listen to it because i like the “music”…not the lyrics…..these niggas priorities are fucked up, and they are too busy being petty and trying to earn bragging rights rather than giving a damn about the real shit…..our voting rights are set to expire in a year…..where are the rappers at that give a damn about that…..where are the black men period who give a damn about black people in general….i like both damon and jay, and i dont give a shit whats going on in their personal life, cause i dont listen to them in hopes of finding out their business….i dont care…..i dont care that def jam will be r&b and not have “no street cred”….SO….i mean at what point do we stop selling drugs, killing and fighting niggas…..at what point do you become rich enough that, that is a thing of your past…..why do you have to be so violent in order to be successful, or just to be considered hiphop…..i think there should be a hip hop class taught before you get in the game that takes you from its beginning in the late 70’s to its rise up until the middle 90’s…..listen to what they were talking about…..i know its not the same time period and shit has changed(even though for the worst), but someone needs to be man or woman enough to say you can still be hiphop artist without disclosing your rap sheet and calling the black women who birthed your ass bitches all the time….i know that may seem off the subject, but doesnt that sound a little more important than whether or not jay z and damon dash are pals and why…..

  50. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:
    April 10th, 2006 at 1:13 pm
    Biggums its crazy to me that you can’t see the wrong in shit but if curt says anything he’s the worse person in the fucking free world….. Jay did Dame dirty bottomline…… WRONG IS WRONG AND PUSHING YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER OUT OF ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS THAT YALL CREATED TOGETHER IS WRONG!!! NOW NO I’M NOT A DAME FAN, HE WACK TO ME BUT BIGGS AND DAMN E.P. EVERY JAY-Z ALBUM!!! THE ROC IS DAME COMPANY, HIS BABY, HIS BRAIN CHILD AND NOW HE’S BEEN FROZEN OUT OF THAT AND YEA THIS MIGHT NOT HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH THE THREAD BUT WHY CAN’T JOE BUDDEN DROP ON DEF JAM BUT RICK ROSS, NY JEEZY AND ALL THESE OTHER WANNABES CAN? SERIOUSLY MAN COME ON…. EVERYBODY JAY HAS EVERY DELT WITH HAS CALLED HIM A SHITTY FRIEND BUT HE’S STILL PROTECTED!!! 50 SHITS ON A DUDE THAT GOT ROOTS WITH HIM AND REAL STREET ISSUES WITH HIM AND HES THE FUCKING ANTI CHRIST MAN COME ON THINK ABOUT THE POSITION YOUR TAKING…….

    you really got shit twisted homie. how did he push him out of every deal they had, dame and him wanted to split and jay wanted his mastsrrs they were his works not dame ( you seriously have a problem with jay wanting his masters? why should dame get those? )ok so he took the name he’ll take the blame for that, but really big deal of course he was gonna want to keep the name he has been rapping roc-a-fella yall for too long roc-a-fella is jay-z not dame dash or biggs sorry jay made it what it was deal with it. now o yea he really fucked dame and pushed him out of his deal with roc-a-wear, how big of a check did he get for selling his part of roc-a-wear how many millions? damn i wish someone would screw me over like that. and please dont give me this shitty friend shit and tell me how he stole kanye, if he is such an ass a) why is bleek still alive, we all know the only reason why dude can afford to eat is cause jay takes care of him b) why did KANYE make the decision to ride with jay not dame c) why has beanie sigel chossen to rock more with hov than dame?

    seriously madden you have the dumbest logic ive ever heard its called thinking things through try it sometime

    and i hate whats going on with buddens obviously but what does that have anything to do with jay and dame.

  51. MaddenMaster Says:

    That might be true but more to the story or not…… on the surface that shit is wrong….

    Now I heard that Jay was mad at Dame for signing cam in the first place and that Cam was suppose to be the President of Roc-a-Fella and Dame wanted the Def Jam job and Jay didn’t want that to happen or at least thats Cam story……No matter what we don’t know the bottom line is that you would think with a relationship/friendship that goes back to Jay being a fucking hype man with bad teeth that they could talk it out and thats whats sad.. Ya Homies are ya homies you don’t have friends that long and then cut they fuckig throat that wrong because after a while its a family thing!!! and every family beef is resolveable with some good BBQ and Henny but shit the way Jay cut them dudes throat it aint no going back which is sad to me…… Do I like hov any less probably not but is that shit wrong FUCK YEAH no protecting the tiger woods of rap that nigga dead ass wrong!!! He’s a great white Businessman because they do cut throat shit like that everyday…

    Dame and Biggs are the Founders of Roc-A-Fella not Hov he was the first artist that they all banked on and treated like an equal LETS JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT!!! Biggs money and Dame vision is Roc-A-Fella and well Jay-Z voice made the company but that nigga could have been rapped like everybody else but they didn’t do him like that……. which is why they deserve money!! And no there isn’t any turning back but its worth noting that its wrong…

  52. buscoliti Says:

    @El feces

    get off Dame’s dick. Jay is a business man. He handles his. You act like you was in the Roc’s office and shit. None of us know what really happened. The Roc was jay biggs and dame. They started that shit together. jay was the sole reason why they was making money at first.

    you gonna have to be more clearer in that analogy you provided with the oil man. It wasn’t clear enough.

    You defintely don’t know business. You put out music to better your company. You want a sambo slave nigga, just to put out street music and limit himself. Do you hear white people complaining to BMG about why they got rnb cats and rappers. That’s ridiculous. You dont limit yourself. You expand your company.

  53. MaddenMaster Says:

    FUCK A CHECK THATS YA PEOPLES THE DUDE THAT PROMO’D YA FIRST ALBUM ON THE SIDE OF HIS FUCKING BENZ ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? NO REALLY MAN YALL NIGGAS LAME ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY AND OF EVEN IF IT WAS ABOUT JAY MASTERS THE NIGGA STILL COULD HAVE SPLIT A QUATER WITH HIS HOMIES TO SECURE THEM NO MATTER WHAT…. WHAT SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH THAT??? BIGGS PUT THE FUCKING MONEY UP FOR ROC-A-FELLA AND NOW HE’S WATCHING HIS BUSINESS OF THE PAST 15 YEARS FROM A DISTANCE AND MY LOGIC IS WRONG WHEN I SAY THATS FUCKED UP????? MAN COME ON SON!!!! COME ON…. YOU REMIND ME OF MY LITTLE HOMIES THAT JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OTHER POSITION JUST TO NOT AGREE WITH ME… NIGGA THAT SHIT HE DID IS FUCKING WRONG THEY ALL BLEW TOGETHER NOT JUST JAY!!! HE HAS A TEAM AND THE TEAM SHOULD HAVE BEEN REWARDED!!!! READ WHAT 50 DID WITH MOBB DEEP BY INCLUDING THEM IN EVERYTHING AS A SHOW OF RESPECT NOT HIS MASTERS BUT THE BUSINESS OF G-UNIT AND OVER TIME THEM NIGGAS WILL HAVE THERE OWN EPIC MASTERS TO PROTECT BUT SON YOU SERIOUSLY CANT SEE THE WRONG THERE???

    No really you really can’t see the wrong??

    And my logic is fucked up?

  54. eskay Says:

    Madden, you can’t be serious. So when Jay kills Dame business wise, he’s dirty and shiesty, but when Puff jerks the LOX they’re bad businessmen?
    Which is it homey?

  55. MaddenMaster Says:

    Yea they all got rich, yeah they all were compenstaed but come on man come on!!! Sinatra, Sammy, and Dean were friends til the fucking end and frank made sure them dudes MADE TOP DOLLAR because he was twice as big as both them dudes…. Thats all I’m saying!!! It should have been more respect to the friendship is all but hey if it disolved so easily then maybe they really didn’t have a friendship to start with….

    But shit keep protecting Tiger Woods its all good!!! And Tiger was fucking wrong when he said he wasn’t Black when he was a rookie but shit since them crackers turned on his ass early on he really switched his tone up huh???

  56. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    They could have respected the friendship and let walk away with the masters to one album.

  57. el_feces_loco Says:

    @obvious…u said…”i dont care…..i dont care that def jam will be r&b and not have “no street cred””……So maybe you shouldnt be on this site then?..Since this is a place where people who care come to type and vibe about shyt…This aint MYSPACE my dude we grown men over here…now sit your desktop azz down before I make laptops.

    @tybiggs…Jay is such a great businessman tho..so he was willing to take a million dollar publishing..and leave 300 million worth of vodka clothes and music?..doe sthat make sense? People go on about he so smart but they givin him credit for doin dumb shit…u said….”he has been rapping roc-a-fella yall for too long roc-a-fella is jay-z not dame dash or biggs sorry jay made it what it was deal with it.” now o yea he really fucked dame and pushed him out of his deal with roc-a-wear, how big of a check did he get for selling his part of roc-a-wear how many millions?..your way of reckonin is reckless…your a dangerous nigga..you are likely susceptible to snitch, cheat, backstab or do whatever with the mentality that u have on this matter, everything is justified by money…the fact that you advocate a nigga losing the company he built from scratch to a childhood friend to satisfy the needs of corporate america makes you dangerous, what if dame’s dream is to pass down the ROC to his kids as a black owned comp?..fuck that right? get the money now..fuck tomorrow right?….like I said new school justify anything for money…i can see now that you have no idea on what it takes to run a ebay store much less a multimillion dollar comp…I cant believe you actually typed that shyt biggs..

    DO YOU KNOW WHO PAPOOSE IS?

  58. MaddenMaster Says:

    Esgay, explain that one pls!! How did Jay Kill Dame Business wise? And How is anything Dame did to Jay anywhere close to what diddy did to Mase, Mary j, The Lox, etc? explain that shit please!!!

    LETS BE CLEAR ROC-A-FELLA IS DAME’S BRAIN, BIGGS MONEY AND JAYS TALENT NOW AGAIN THEM DUDES COULD HAVE CUT JAY SOME FUCKED UP DEAL BUT THEY DIDN’T THEY MADE HIM A PARTNER AND THEY DIDN’T HAVE TO…….. THAT NIGGA COULD HAVE SIGNED HIS PUBLISHING AWAY LIKE EVERY OTHER HUNGRY RAPPER (I.E. BIGGIE) BUT HE DIDN’T BECAUSE THEY TREATED IT AS ONE DREAM AND NOT 3 DIFFERENT DREAMS……….. YOU STILL DON’T GET MY POINT RIGHT?

  59. eskay Says:

    for one, rocawear and rocafella are two conpletely different entities. The only thing Jay was giving up for the masters was rocafella, not rocawear, armandale, etc.

  60. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ right 50 gave them THEIR masters so shouldnt jay get HIS masters? he isnt asking for anything that isntrt 100% his. and get the fuck outta here with it was dame and biggs vision they could vision all the fuck they want it, but jay was their fucking glasses without jay that vison would be blind and they would of never had shit, if they are so great visionaries and talent producers how come they havent come with anyone else but jay? who else is gonna help their vision?

    ESKAY – i think ive seen you post the numbers on what dame got from selling his piece of roc-a-fella can you do it again please to show exactly how much he got screwed.

    madden your logic is all twisted because it was dame and biggs making all the demands that they get to keep this and that and all jay said was let me get my masters and im gone dame and biggs got greedy they went in front of an arbitrator and jay was awarded the name and his masters. damn choose to leave roc-a-wear for some huge check.

    also yea jay didnt want cam signed to roc-a-fella but dame made the move on his own ( then while jay was in europe dame by himself decided to make cam V.P. of roc-a-fella not president and dame didnt even check with hov. now hov is like how are you gonnna make some dude you know i dont like v.p. of our company without even asking me.

    how does any of this make jay grimey???? sounds like dame is the grimey bitch to me

    damn madden your hate for jay is strong

  61. eskay Says:

    >>THEM DUDES COULD HAVE CUT JAY SOME FUCKED UP DEAL BUT THEY DIDN’T THEY MADE HIM A PARTNER AND THEY DIDN’T HAVE TO……

    you act like thats how it went down though. the 3 of them formed Rocafella together, you act like Jay was some idiot artist who didn’t know shit about the industry and Dame and Biggs blessed him with 1/3 ownership. get real

  62. Foekist Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
    FUCK A CHECK THATS YA PEOPLES THE DUDE THAT PROMO’D YA FIRST ALBUM ON THE SIDE OF HIS FUCKING BENZ ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? NO REALLY MAN YALL NIGGAS LAME ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY AND OF EVEN IF IT WAS ABOUT JAY MASTERS THE NIGGA STILL COULD HAVE SPLIT A QUATER WITH HIS HOMIES TO SECURE THEM NO MATTER WHAT…. WHAT SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH THAT??? BIGGS PUT THE FUCKING MONEY UP FOR ROC-A-FELLA AND NOW HE’S WATCHING HIS BUSINESS OF THE PAST 15 YEARS FROM A DISTANCE AND MY LOGIC IS WRONG WHEN I SAY THATS FUCKED UP????? MAN COME ON SON!!!! COME ON…. YOU REMIND ME OF MY LITTLE HOMIES THAT JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OTHER POSITION JUST TO NOT AGREE WITH ME… NIGGA THAT SHIT HE DID IS FUCKING WRONG THEY ALL BLEW TOGETHER NOT JUST JAY!!! HE HAS A TEAM AND THE TEAM SHOULD HAVE BEEN REWARDED!!!! READ WHAT 50 DID WITH MOBB DEEP BY INCLUDING THEM IN EVERYTHING AS A SHOW OF RESPECT NOT HIS MASTERS BUT THE BUSINESS OF G-UNIT AND OVER TIME THEM NIGGAS WILL HAVE THERE OWN EPIC MASTERS TO PROTECT BUT SON YOU SERIOUSLY CANT SEE THE WRONG THERE???

    No really you really can’t see the wrong??

    And my logic is fucked up?

    —————————————–

    Son duke, you made a damn good point. Keep in mind that both party’s CAN be viewed as wrong in almost ANY situation. Kanye CHOSE to rock with Hov, and I can’t blame him. However, this whole argument about who’s right or wrong is stupid to argue, because we may NEVER know the whole story. There’s 3 sides to this story; Jay’s, Dame’s and THE TRUTH (and I ain’t talkin about Siegel, lol).

  63. MaddenMaster Says:

    @tybiggs…Jay is such a great businessman tho..so he was willing to take a million dollar publishing..and leave 300 million worth of vodka clothes and music?..doe sthat make sense? People go on about he so smart but they givin him credit for doin dumb shit…u said….”he has been rapping roc-a-fella yall for too long roc-a-fella is jay-z not dame dash or biggs sorry jay made it what it was deal with it.” now o yea he really fucked dame and pushed him out of his deal with roc-a-wear, how big of a check did he get for selling his part of roc-a-wear how many millions?..your way of reckonin is reckless…your a dangerous nigga..you are likely susceptible to snitch, cheat, backstab or do whatever with the mentality that u have on this matter, everything is justified by money…the fact that you advocate a nigga losing the company he built from scratch to a childhood friend to satisfy the needs of corporate america makes you dangerous, what if dame’s dream is to pass down the ROC to his kids as a black owned comp?..fuck that right? get the money now..fuck tomorrow right?….like I said new school justify anything for money…i can see now that you have no idea on what it takes to run a ebay store much less a multimillion dollar comp…I cant believe you actually typed that shyt biggs..

    DO YOU KNOW WHO PAPOOSE IS?

    EXACTLY!!!!! THEY LOGIC IS ALL FUCKED UP!!!! BUT THEY KIDS WHAT YOU EXPECT….. I GET TIRED OF TRYING TO BEAT POINTS HOME WITH THESE DUDES… THEY DON’T HAVE A SINGLE INCH OF HONOR… I DON’T EVEN THINK THEY KNOW WHAT HONOR IS….. 10 ALBUMS AND YA BOY AINT GOOD FOR ONE IF NOT TWO??? HE SOLD ROC-A-WEAR COMPLETELY NO RESEDUAL DOLLAR WHICH MEANS WHAT HE TOOK FOR HIS SHARE ROC-A-WEAR WILL EARN BACK IN A YEAR…. YALL NIGGAS BUGGED OUT!!

  64. Foekist Says:

    I’m done talking about other niggas money, them niggas is rich either way it goes. They both gonna be straight regardless. I’ll holla on the next subject…

  65. MaddenMaster Says:

    Esgay: Yeah Jay was this smart dude that couldn’t get signed remember…. and trust hunger will make niggas do some serious shit….. But thats right you from the burbs in Yonkers so that wouldn’t add up to you right??? Without Biggs paper and Dame flare for marketing that nigga hov would have been Big L and nothing more because again remember NOBODY WANTED TO SIGN DUDE!!!!!!! Friends are friends and you work a better deal out with friend and yea Biggums made a great point about signing Cam but they should have been able to talk through that shit!!! I didn’t know about the arbitrators and personally it shouldn’t have gotten to that point but again… NO HONOR

    And if I defend 50 I’m a stan, If I say somthing about Jay being wrong I’m a hater……….. Am I the only one that sees a pattern here? no really am I? Start a new thread about MC SuperNatural and let me defend that dude ability hard and lets see how quick I become a stan….. You fucking republicans man!!!! always gotta put niggas in a category……..

  66. MaddenMaster Says:

    Foekist Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
    I’m done talking about other niggas money, them niggas is rich either way it goes. They both gonna be straight regardless. I’ll holla on the next subject…

    ——————————————–

    Great Point I’m Done Its Dead!!!

  67. el_feces_loco Says:
  68. el_feces_loco Says:

    DO YOU KNOW WHO PAPOOSE IS?

    YEA PAPOOSE IS JAY Z BEFORE HE MET DAME

    …ALL YOU ONE HANDED NIGGAS REMEMBER……ONE HAND WASHES THE OTHER.

  69. MaddenMaster Says:

    el_feces_loco Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
    DO YOU KNOW WHO PAPOOSE IS?

    YEA PAPOOSE IS JAY Z BEFORE HE MET DAME

    …ALL YOU ONE HANDED NIGGAS REMEMBER……ONE HAND WASHES THE OTHER.

    ——————————————-

    EXACTLY!!!! THAT NIGGA PAP IS JAY-Z BEFORE HE FUCKING MET DAME SO NOW LETS SEE IF PAP HAVE A JAY TYPE CAREER!!!! NIGGAS NOT RESPECTING THE POINTS FOR SOME REASON… I JUST DONT GET IT

  70. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    .your way of reckonin is reckless…your a dangerous nigga..you are likely susceptible to snitch, cheat, backstab or do whatever with the mentality that u have on this matter, everything is justified by money…the fact that you advocate a nigga losing the company he built from scratch to a childhood friend to satisfy the needs of corporate america makes you dangerous, what if dame’s dream is to pass down the ROC to his kids as a black owned comp?..fuck that right?

    madden first off fuck you trying to say i could be a snitch your the one who backs the biggest snitch 40 cent. oooo bo fucking who cares if it was dames dream to pass on the roc to his kid so what jay and biggs should fall back and let dame have his dream because you know his rapping his skills and talent is what got him all the money i mean the garden sold out in 20 minutes because people came to see dam dash your right. im not advocating him losing his job im advocating not feeling sorry for a dude who decided to sell his share of a company for millions and millions and people like you acting like he got screwed, dame could of staye with roc-a-wear and kept collecting checks but he CHOOSE to get out and grab one big check. FUCK JAY MAN THAT SHITS COLD. and again dame really built it all from scratch all himself jay should have no say in what happens god damn your fucking reatarded arent you.

    basically what you are saying is we only know about JAY-Z because of dame dash and without jay-z dame would of been just as successful if not more, well howd that ultimate hustler shit do??? hows that dame dash music group doing? hows graff coming along? i mean that was supposed to be dame’s next jay-z how come he hasnt built an empire from off of him then?

    damn you’d probably like to give all of biggies success to puff too huh? i mean puff is what made him so sick lyrically right?

  71. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:
    April 10th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
    el_feces_loco Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
    DO YOU KNOW WHO PAPOOSE IS?

    YEA PAPOOSE IS JAY Z BEFORE HE MET DAME

    …ALL YOU ONE HANDED NIGGAS REMEMBER……ONE HAND WASHES THE OTHER.

    ——————————————-

    EXACTLY!!!! THAT NIGGA PAP IS JAY-Z BEFORE HE FUCKING MET DAME SO NOW LETS SEE IF PAP HAVE A JAY TYPE CAREER!!!! NIGGAS NOT RESPECTING THE POINTS FOR SOME REASON… I JUST DONT GET IT

    PAP IS JAY-Z BEFORE DAME? WHAT HAPPENED TO GRAFF I THOUGHT HE WAS DAME’S NEXT JAY-Z? you just explained it yourself, you just said it in your last 5 words you in fact

    YOU JUST DONT GET IT

  72. Plug industries Says:

    *yawns after awakening from hour nap*

    *wipes crust out of eyes, slob from mouf*

    *passes gas*

    JAY DID HIS BOY WRONG. HE’S GONNA GET HIS

    *Daydreams that Nas has a hidden Jay diss on his new album*

  73. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    MADDEN SAYS – Friends are friends and you work a better deal out with friend and yea Biggums made a great point about signing Cam but they should have been able to talk through that shit!!! I didn’t know about the arbitrators and personally it shouldn’t have gotten to that point but again… NO HONOR

    EXACTLY AND DAME DID ALL THAT SHIT WITH CAM BEHIND JAY;S BACK WITHOUT ASKING HIM KNOWING HOW HE WOULD FEEL, ALSO YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE ARBITRATOR STUFF BUT THEY WENT IN FRONT OF ONE BECAUSE JAY WANTED HIS MASTERS AND THEN THE JUDGE PROCEEDED TO GIVE JAY EVEN MORE THAN HE WAS LOOKING FOR BECAUSE WHEN LOOKING AT THE LEGALITIES AND CONTRACTS JAY GOT WHAT WAS TO BE DETERMINED RIGHTFULLY HIS AND DAME GOT WHAT WAS RIGHTFULLY HIS AS WELL

  74. eskay Says:

    >>Yeah Jay was this smart dude that couldn’t get signed remember…. and trust hunger will make niggas do some serious shit….. But thats right you from the burbs in Yonkers so that wouldn’t add up to you right???

    you act like Jay is the only rapper who had a hard time getting signed. what about your hero 50 Cent? that nigga would still be on Jamaica ave selling crills if it wasn’t for Em. Dame and Biggs didn’t get Jay signed they formed Rocafella TOGETHER because even with Dame and Biggs they coudn’t get Jay a deal you homo.

    as for the Yonkers remark, why don’t you come on up here nigga and we’ll show you the fucking ‘burbs, cuz thats where we’ll leave your ass after we rob you for that cubic zirconia G-unit spinner that I know you rock. suburbs, nigga please. try telling DMX he’s from the suburbs.

  75. MaddenMaster Says:

    I never said Dame signed lol
    And Damn and Biggs couldn’t get Jay a deal together what makes you think he would have done any better on his own esgay?

    Nigga you from the burbs in yonkers we aint talking about X we talking about you!!!!

  76. Blissfully Clueless » Monday Musings Says:

    […] l upset that Jay-Z tossed him out with the rest of the old sponges.  [Nah Right, Contact Music] More musings on the topic of grillz.  [Doan Mind Me] O […]

  77. eskay Says:

    >>And Damn and Biggs couldn’t get Jay a deal together what makes you think he would have done any better on his own esgay?

    I never said he would’ve I’m just saying that Dame and Biggs still couldn’t get him a deal

    >>Nigga you from the burbs in yonkers we aint talking about X we talking about you!!!!

    so come on nigga, come take the fucking tour then!

  78. D. Billz Says:

    “he also signed some dude from b-more named young leak aka b rich jr. ‘member him?” ‘

    Fuck all that other stuff… why does Baltimore always gotta be the frickin’ laughin’ stock on this bitch?!? I’M MAD! Grrrr!

    *pushes over gov’t CPU, knocks papers and shit off the desk, bangs on cubicle*

    One day will we have a star, you bastids… ONE DAY!

    *shakes fist*

  79. eskay Says:

    ^ lol @ d.billz

  80. buscoliti Says:

    Tyrone biggums just smacked madden. He did you in. Eskay did you in too.
    Madden, your arguments are pointless and useless. You’re done.

  81. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    MADDEN HOW THE FUCK YOU KNOW WHERE DUDE IS FROM. YEA THERE ARE SOME MORE SUBURBAN PARTS OF Y.O. BUT GOD DAMN IF MOST OF Y.O. AINT GUTTER AS FUCK

  82. Foekist Says:

    D. Billz Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
    “he also signed some dude from b-more named young leak aka b rich jr. ‘member him?” ‘

    Fuck all that other stuff… why does Baltimore always gotta be the frickin’ laughin’ stock on this bitch?!? I’M MAD! Grrrr!

    *pushes over gov’t CPU, knocks papers and shit off the desk, bangs on cubicle*

    One day will we have a star, you bastids… ONE DAY!

    *shakes fist
    ———————–

    Even though I’m not from here, I wonder the same thing about Detroit… Why we can’t have a real MC rep from here. Eminem has acquired wackalidis, and Obie will never really be a HUGE star… I don’t know what it is.

  83. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    D.BILLZ STAYS KILLEN ME BUT- YOU KNOW I GOT LOVE FOR YOU ( NO CAMROM ) I JUST HOPE IF B-MORE BLOWS UP YOU DONT TURN IN TO ONE OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT FUCK EVERYWHERE ELSE B-MORE IS RUNNING THIS SHIT. CAUSE YOU REALIZE ITS NOT THE SOUTH WE HATE ITS CERTAIN ARTIST IN GENERAL WHEN SOMEONE DISSES D4L IT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE DISSING THE SOUTH AS A WHOLE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD PEOPLE.

  84. MaddenMaster Says:

    HAHAHAHAH YALL NIGGAS SOUND DUMB AND AINT NOBODY SMACK SHIT I JUST GOT TIRED OF ARGUEING WITH THE SHORT YELLOW BUS CREW!!! THATS WHY I’M NOT RESPONDING THEY AINT WIN SHIT…..

    AND FOR THE LAST TIME THIS SHIT IS SOME AVON AND STRINGER BELL TYPE SHIT!!!! WRONG!!!!

  85. eskay Says:

    35% of the time, 10% of Madden’s arguments make sense. the rest of the time I think he’s shermed up

  86. el_feces_loco Says:

    @biggs ..you confusing business and music..musically jay is untouchable…name me one business jay started by himself?

    Imma say thisand imma end mines..you cant reason with the unreasonable, I hang with arrogant, not giving a fuck the establishment and societies lil box they want us all to fit in kinna niggas..i resemble niggas like Dame..niggas that do them..niggas with loyalty, balls and respect…Dame and Irv made Def Jam what it is now..when Lyor and Kev was there with they fingers in they azz Irv brought em Murda inc, Dame brought the Roc..Irv caught a case Def Jam dropped him..Jay and Def Jam dropped Dame…… after all the puzzy/money they hooked us up with this is the thanks they get?….its cool tho…I think all this will make both of them better in the long run….REAL NIGGAS GET SHORT MEMORIES AND LONG PAPER.

    MARK MY WORDS….DAME AND IRV WILL BE BACK.

  87. Plug industries Says:

    Foekist Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
    Even though I’m not from here, I wonder the same thing about Detroit… Why we can’t have a real MC rep from here. Eminem has acquired wackalidis, and Obie will never really be a HUGE star… I don’t know what it is.

    >>Obie went plat…… Em went SUPER PLAT…..Like it or not Em is one of the best to do it. Obie got skills. MC Breed went triple….Yeah I said it..BREED, NU99A

  88. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    ^^^ im not saying he started it by himself but dame and biggs didnt start it by themseleves either they started it 1/3rd 1/3rd and 1/3rd and if none of those 3rd became a huge star like jay did then not one of the buisness moves would of worked out, if jay didnt blow because of his skill and talent then there is no superstar for dame to rpomote no videos for dame to be dancing in no clthing line no vodka deal no nothing. yea they went in as partners but jay made it all happen with his skills again if dame made him so good then name me one good thing dame has done without jay?

    and madden dog dont be jacking my short bus joke on me you swagger jacker. you know thats my line i use that shit all day on your ass and if you’ll notice again you are the one on the short bus again not me. how come everytime we get into people come in here and say co-sign ty, you ty just smacked dude silly, yo ty just killed dude, and you get what maybe 2 or 3 other stans ( you probably call on your mom’s basement phone for help with ) to come on here and argue with the rest of us when you dont even make any sense the shit you say goes against your own logic but that since you belong on that short bus you cant even see that shit. how many people have come on here and said they feel no need to comment cause i just murdered dude, the only ones EVER backing you are luis and NYC thats your fucking crew and you say we are on the short bus damn homie, i bet its gotta hurt to continually get aired out like that over and over again, lucky for you you get to hide behind that computer dont got to show your pussy ass face

  89. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    yea foekists – i hated encore but em is as real as m.c.’s can get so what if he isnt the most gangsta he is real as fuck, and obie is nice but slept on and the nicest is royce da 5’9 unfortunitly he will be slept on forever, but people out here know about slum village, blade icewood all them dudes, the d is more respected in hip-hop than you think

  90. MaddenMaster Says:

    Yall kids crazy man hahahahahahah and I don’t put shit in my system its all natural crazy!!!

  91. D. Billz Says:

    @ Ty Biggs

    Sad part is, the two decent local acts we have are beefin’ (Bossman vs. Mullyman). As if Baltimore isn’t small enough, these dudes gotta have some type of animosity towards one another. Meanwhile, Bossman is over at Virgin with no real release date. Mullyman still isn’t signed, even after two successful singles (one with Bleek using the same beat Jim Jones used for “Summer in Miami” and another with Freeway on the Clinton Sparks official mixtape release last year). Los of Da Bloc got a label deal with Bad Boy… he’s trash PLUS he aint coming out. COMP got dropped from Def Jam and he is a fuckin’ animal (i.e. did that verse on Ghost’s “Run” song and he was around 17 years old). Skarr Akbar don’t know how to control his temper, duffin’ niggas on stage. Little does he know, that shit won’t fly in any city above the Mason-Dixon. Get his dumb ass a quick trip to any local ER.

    It’s like people sign dudes from here as a gimmick. And I swear, if someone bring up B. Rich one more time, I’m gonna track your IP addy, hunt you down, and D-D-T you down a flight of steps.

    *B More Nubian*

  92. D. Billz Says:

    Oh yeah… and I hope Young Leak get tackled in the middle of 42nd Street.

  93. jersey Says:

    Dame iz Lame…

  94. jersey Says:

    See the time he’s wasting BITCHIN he could be competing w/ jay..(notice i said competing not leading)….cuz his ass iz behind the 8ball 4real!!!….He look pitiful..especially in this pic……N*gga get ova it!!!……And by the way eloco you stated that you seen jay change but dame didnt?…..Change my friend is not exactly a bad thing…….call it what want…dont hate duke congratulate!!!lol

  95. joe 88 Says:

    bossman=ok tries to be ny nigga
    mullyman=ok
    skarr=ok
    comp(my nig from back in the day)=above average
    backland=ok tries to be ny nigga
    los=wack (last seen at the mall with no bags)
    verb=below average (clown)
    layvon= one of the best ive heard so far
    410= the truth (2 man group that consist of 2 northeast side boys. single currently playing on 88.9 scratch the surface)
    B.rich= WACK (can’t lie heard maxi single starring b rich 2 outta 4 songs where ok)
    leak= never heard him

    @D. billz
    i got this baltimore dvd (not stop snitching) where this dude layvon destroys los it got jada on there, mad skillz, kevin hart (soul plane), live son (d block), its average but the battles are hiliarious

  96. eskay Says:

    >>bossman=ok tries to be ny nigga

    ^whats that supposed to mean?

    *is all defensive from the Field Mob thread*

  97. el_feces_loco Says:

    @TY…”again if dame made him so good then name me one good thing dame has done without jay?”.
    ..UMM..HE SIGNED KANYE WEST?…BEANS? AND THEM WAS DAMES WHOLE THING..NOT JIGGA..ONLY THING JIGGA EVER DID WAS WRITE A HOT 16 FOR MEMPH THEN HAVE HIM MOVE IN.

  98. E From BK Says:

    MaddenMaster Says:

    April 10th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
    Yea they all got rich, yeah they all were compenstaed but come on man come on!!! Sinatra, Sammy, and Dean were friends til the fucking end and frank made sure them dudes MADE TOP DOLLAR

    How does that equate to Jay, Dame and Biggs? Dame and Biggs are not the talent. Sammy and Dean were generating doe by performing. Again, how do they equate?

  99. E From BK Says:

    I’m tired of people using that “Jay didn’t want to sign Kanye” crap. What does that have to do with anything? Kanye went with who he wanted to go with. There are hundreds of artists that go door to door and not everybody gets their first deal. There are many execs who pass on artists that go on to make it big. It’s nothing personal, all business. Jay got turned down by alot of labels himself. STOP USING THAT EXAMPLE; IT HOLDS NO WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  100. joe 88 Says:

    no don’t get me wrong eskay but we got our own slang. no one will respect a nigga that’s not being him and how his shit sounded back in the day compared to now its a big difference. if you was to play a track of his and you never heard of him and he dont mention anything about where hes from you would think hes from ny. if he tried to rap like he was from the dirty i would say the same thing. trust me i dont trip on where a nigga from good music is good music no matter where it comes from but to me a artist makes there best music when there being themself

  101. joe 88 Says:

    P.S fuck field mob just look how these guys are acting out there lyrics LMAO classic

  102. D. Billz Says:

    @ Es

    Too many NY/Dirty South d-riders here chief. Niggas here have an identity crisis and don’t know if they want to be one or the other. And it doesn’t help we’re the first major metropolitan BELOW the Mason-Dixon.

    bossman=ok tries to be ny nigga
    mullyman=ok
    skarr=ok
    comp(my nig from back in the day)=above average
    backland=ok tries to be ny nigga
    los=wack (last seen at the mall with no bags)
    verb=below average (clown)
    layvon= one of the best ive heard so far
    410= the truth (2 man group that consist of 2 northeast side boys. single currently playing on 88.9 scratch the surface)
    B.rich= WACK (can’t lie heard maxi single starring b rich 2 outta 4 songs where ok)
    leak= never heard him

    @D. billz
    i got this baltimore dvd (not stop snitching) where this dude layvon destroys los it got jada on there, mad skillz, kevin hart (soul plane), live son (d block), its average but the battles are hiliarious

    @ Joe 88

    LMAO @ Los, last seen at the mall with NOOO BAAAAAAGS! Every nigga who saw that dvd know where that came from. Niggas here still say that as a on-going joke. And I think you’re rating system for local talent definitely mirrors mine. I forgot about Backland. I used to poli with him on AIM every now and then. After he won that 106 title, he’s been trying to get his work out there. But I really don’t know what’s going on. Lets not forget Tim Trees… that clown. He makes me hate going to the clubs here because we gotta here that wack ass single gettin’ spun into the mix. By the way, Young Leek is that nigga with the “Shake It and Jiggle It” garbage on the radio. I’ve never heard of 410 or Layvon but I’ll definitely check for ’em when I get the chance. And Comp is still my nigga, I think he has the most potential. Did you ever hear this joint called “Coming 2 A City Near U” that’s off his latest mixtape with DJ DNA? I used to post that one line he spit from there all the time. But the song should still be on that Government Names blog site. Bang-A-Rang Gang!!

    But where can I cop that dvd? If it’s at the flea market I’m going to get it ASAP.

  103. eskay Says:

    yo E from BK, yo know what else, Kanye even said himself that Dame didn’t wanna fuck with him as a rapper and that he fronted on him just as hard as Jay did. niggas act like anybody made ‘Ye’s life easy when he was trying to get on. don’t believe me, go listen to Last Call on College Dropout.

  104. joe 88 Says:

    *slaps himself for forgettin about that clown tim trees*
    billz do you know that trees sold over 20,000 copies of his cd the bank roll shit? WTF i could’nt belive it myself about the dvd man im just lucky to have it you know how movies jump hand to hand i can ask my home boy where he got it from *just thought about it he might ask for it back damn*
    but i do know the name it’s 1 luv vol 7 it might be at the flea market thought. as for mr shake it jiggle it i know who you talking bout garbage.
    almost forgot huli shallone= garbage(but got radio behind him) & little clayway= garbage

  105. eskay Says:

    I feel ya’ll I was just being an ass

  106. D. Billz Says:

    @ Es… figures, lol.

    @ Joe 88… 20,000 copies? Damn. Well, much props to him. I mean, dude is ass (no Cam’ron), but if he sellin’ 20K in Bmore then that’s a big deal. Even though we know mostly chicks liked that shit, but… it is what it is. Huli… rapper/r&b thug… hot garbage. Oh yeah, lets not forget Clayway… wow, garbage. I forgot all about those two. Lol @ you swiping another nigga’s dvds. I can’t front, I’m real hesitant to give them shits back if I know I don’t have access to ’em or don’t feel like payin’ for ’em. But you’re probably right about it being at the flea market. Mofos got everything bootleg in there.

  107. D. Billz Says:

    I’m about to come out with a single for all my aggressive niggas called “Tackle That Chick”, featuring Bone Crusher.

  108. Darth Cipher Says:

    “Bin Laden blew up the projects, tell the truth nigga, it was you nigga” – mos def… well im not gunna say much in here since you guys have said enough as it is, i havent read your comments but damn i feel sorry for dude if thats the real shit going on withhim right now… jay needs to let a nigga eat, he gets beyonce and starts buying so much shit and now he’s turning on the nigga that help him to the top, thats some cold shit to do man…

  109. kaostx Says:

    if dame could have jacked jay he would have. jay had him. period. he offered to give up rocafella for one of his masters. they turned him down. now thats jacked up. where is the business sense in that. that was personal. so if you end up irrelevant for a while then deal with it. i think dame will be back. he just needs to stop the whining. he did all this to himself. he decided to take over the company and make all the decisions like jay was a punk. if you remeber jay was mad for beans and the rest of them dudes already on the roc. he wanted to know how cam gon be the vp when there are niggas on the roc thats been down way longer. people at rocafella were coming to jay complaining about the way dame was acting in the office. dame got way too big headed. thats why he seems like the bad guy. because of his attitude. no one says much about biggs either way cause he plays the background. its funny how because this dude dug his own grave and now hes crying about it no one can remeber all the bs he did that made people hate him in the first place.

  110. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    d.billz my boy is a producer from b-more the boy is ridiculous his name is godfather sage, he dj’s all over the place he spins drum and bass and that shit too but he makes crazy hip-hop beats he bounces back and forth between b-more and d.c. so be on the look out of him ( even though he has been doing his thing for a minute ) he might be in the process of an offical name change last i heard he might be changing his producer name to tito jones but whatever the boy is nice behind the boards

  111. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    real talk kaostx i mean dame tried to jack jay up when they went to the arbitrator, the arbitrator ( legal term and matter for you uneducated folks ) decided to rule in favor of jay and actuall y gave jay more than what he was even looking for, like this boy said all he wanted was his masters but dame had to get greedy and he had no legs to stand on, if he is such a smart buisness man he would of known he had no case and no legs to stand on and he would of taken the deal jay offered him which ( which was you can have everything but my masters ) but dame knows he needs jay to make him money he knows he has gotten rich off of selling jay’s music and image not his so now what the fuck is he to do ????

    people on here hating on hov for this are either just very uninformed of how this all went down or they just blind dumb haters my guess is they a whole lot of both. dame was the snake in this shit he went behind jay’s back he caused the tension between roc. camps by doing what the boy kaostx said and offering the v.p. spot to cam instead of beans, hows hov gonna look when beans come;s in like what the fuck ive been here for how long man? and jay’s like wait what happened dame made who v.p.? na fuck. and dame’s been getting grimey ever since he should of listened to one of the most sayings ever

    “dont bite the hand that feeds you” and he bite jay’s hand deal with it. go retire off the crazy money you already got off riding jay’s success

  112. MadeInMilwaukee Says:

    I think Dame is a real smart dude, but He just dead wrong on this. He needs to play towards his strenghs. Fashion and Artist Management might be where he is best suited. Getting Cam’Ron’s mind right should be his priority. Next, should be getting Grafh’s album out.

    People need to realize that They helped make each other. Jay wasn’t some broke rapper before Roc-a-Fella, but he wasn’t signed either. Dame was already in the business, but really hadn’t made a mark in the business before Jay. They helped each other.

  113. Blood Hound aka Slum Lord Says:

    Dame Laden!!!!

  114. youhateme Says:

    O man im late i didnt know Jay and dame was beefin. i was wonderin why Dame was in Camron’s wet wipes video

  115. OSoSexyjessica Says:

    Jay-z lossin all his niggaz Dame and Memphis bleek. Friends or Money

    Jay-z choosein money. Money dont have your back like your niggaz Jay-z get your shit together

  116. tyronebiggums Says:

    whatcha talkin bout jessica. the only person jay is beefing with is dame. bleek is a happy weed carrier who is in the will aint no problems between them

  117. eskay Says:

    ^ yeah, did I miss something (of course not, imagine that)

    but yo I’d suffocate my whole crew for Jay’s money. (kidding….)

    *thinks about it*

    yeah, I’m kidding.

  118. Da Newz Man Says:

    ^^

    I’d do it, i wouldnt even hesitate.

  119. Darth Cipher Says:

    honestly, i think i might strangle at least two people for his money… i mean shit thats alot of money we talking bout, def jam money, roca wear money, new jersey nets money, niggas that work for him money, dudes maDD close to being wealthy man, actually dude is wealthy, motherfucker is writing checks to people, shit he’s weathly… fuck it
    *turns around and chokes the guy in his crew that wasnt down to fight them crackers at the club*, i didnt like him anyway

  120. she Says:

    *readin comments* ummm how did field mob get mixed with jay and dame????that field mob shit should be left in the dumpster cause its garbage.can we just move on.

    dame seems arrogant,but he been like that.dame is greedy,but you know what we all gotta get $ somehow.

    did jay even get his maters?i hear the story but never the outcome.

  121. The Truth... Says:

    I think Dame needs to stop thinking about Jay Z (I’m not saying he spends a lot of time thinking about him, but…). Fuck Jay Z. Dame deserves respect. He should do his thing and fuck whatever other people are doing/saying.

  122. ObviouslyMoreFocusedThanU Says:

    el feces….

    actually this is a site that anyone can come too…..and i will continue coming and speaking my opinion on whatever….its just my opinion and it doesnt have to be yours….i dont need you or want you to think differently cause of me…..second, baby i’m not a dude…..i am a woman….and at some point in life you get tired of hearing about gun clappin and bitch smacking, so as far as i’m concerned fuck a street cred…..i dont know nobody who can go to the light company and say i got street cred and that will pay their bills…..third…your little laptop desktop whatever comment was really cute….maybe you should take your talent to damon dash if you can stop sucking his dick for five minutes and get some street cred off that…..hell your shitty name (pun intended) is enough to get you some street cred right…..ha….stupid ass fool….i was talking some real shit….just my opinion but some realness….instead of having a decent cybersation about my real point, all you could think to do was say a dumb ass oneliner that is probably copywritten by someone else…..maybe you need to sit your ass down for a moment and shut the fuck up before damon’s dick falls out your mouth….

  123. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    she Says:
    April 11th, 2006 at 2:24 am
    *readin comments* ummm how did field mob get mixed with jay and dame????that field mob shit should be left in the dumpster cause its garbage.can we just move on.

    dame seems arrogant,but he been like that.dame is greedy,but you know what we all gotta get $ somehow.

    did jay even get his maters?i hear the story but never the outcome.

    yes jay got his masters. they went in front of an arbitrator for it since dame wouldnt give it to him and the judge gave him his masters and everything else

  124. MySteeK Says:

    motherfuckers should worry bout themselves before they start on everybody else. and jay… i like um in all but i question dudes skills as an entrapaneur. Its a grimey game, anybody can tell ya’ll that. So dont hate on Diddy. Dont hate on 50. they obviously doin somethin right. dame let shit slip and now look at the situation. slipped into the wrong hands if u ask me. o well, aint shit we could do bout it. keep it movin

  125. eskay Says:

    >>and jay… i like um in all but i question dudes skills as an entrapaneur.

    oh yeah? what made you doubt him, the 300 mil he’s worth?

  126. Carlos Says:

    Dame, while you was out drinkin dale, and boxing, and clownin reality, Jay was makin moves. The ultimate Hustla all the time was Jay, and you got played LOL!!!. In this life you must decide between fair and life. Famous words of Joan Crawford say it best:

    Mommie Dearest: A Christina Darling, no one ever said that life is fair.

    Jay got B, and you got CAM’RON, I’m sure you’re on top…strap up and enjoy. You can hustle dat.

    But on da real doh, letme holla at Stacey.

  127. C Love Says:

    Dame, Dame, Dame!! He will still come out on top. Look at us talking about him!!!

    LOL! I am lovin that Baltimore is even included in the convo. That’s HOT!!!!

    But for those of you that want another perspective of Baltimore Hip Hop…check out my blog http://www.itsbaltimorebaby.com. We have lots of artists making noise….Backland has a new MIXTAPE called Baltimore Blocks. In case you didn’t know….Backland was in a bad accident and lost a leg last year….& he is back. Do you know what that says about him and the stock of people we have in Baltimore.

    While I agree with many of your assessments….I beg to differ with the picture you painted of Skar. Yeah…he has slapped a few people, but you betta believe he will out rap and perform ANY MC you can think of…his catalog alone earns him a level of respect that I did not detect in your comments about him. And why are you making the Mully vs Bossman seem like it was a polarizing issue. That’s that BULLSHIT!!!

    As a Baltimorean….I hope that you want your home team to make it….things are MOST DEF gettin betta. Take a lil time and develop a REAL opninion based on something substantial. Don’t come on this site actin like you are any kind of authority on who’s who in Bmore…cause I’m everywhere and YOU [the names provided] ain’t NEVA there!

    Baltimore does baltimore…we not tryna be like New York…we not tryna be like down south…we are on the mason dixon line and have a lil of what makes each special within us. We are prolly the only people that can walk that line [that durty nawth music] and really have the pedigree to justify it!!!! We comin!!!

    C LOVA LOVA
    http://www.itsbaltimorebaby.com
    http://www.myspace.com/clove

  128. K B Easy Says:

    Dude you are wack to talk shit about Bmore Hip Hop and you are crab in a barrel. Damn there’s still hater’s and non-believers in Baltimore that does’nt have faith in their local talent. Also Bmore cats are too close to up top so they have a right to sound typical East Coast also it will be really if Bmore tries to be down south! Yo how can you say Verb, Mully, Los, and Skarr Arkbar are wack dude you are wack. I think you are bitter asshole who has a grudge against these good people!

  129. Kenneth Says:

    What’s C love tell these clowns who’s dissing the Bmore Hip Hop scene are ignorant about this region and how can this buster this Little Clayway he’s been putting work in Bmore for years! There’s too clowns on this site got hateration in their system

Leave a Reply