Rolling Cypher

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This is pretty great in a nostalgic, pre-Metrocard kind of way. A couple of dudes have organized a little freestyle session that will take place every other Sunday in the last car of the E Train.

Using the last car of the subway as their peformance space, the band of old school rap afficionados stopped off at various stations to form rhyme cyphers and demonstrate their skills at musical oneupsmanship.

“It’s a jam session,” said Terry “Kid Lucky” Lewis, a 33-year-old Crown Heights beatboxer who organized the event and plans to hold it on the train every other Sunday. It’s his way to confront what he sees as a crisis in hip-hop.

“There’s too much degradation of women; everybody’s thugging and blinging,” Kid Lucky explained. “Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for people making money, but I’m trying to show there’s more to hip-hop.”

I remember when I was in high school we used to do something similar, except our version included a 50 dollar Panasonic, Magnum 44 markers, and several lit blunts in rotation. Let me tell you, the local paper never would have featured us on the front page.

Hop on the railroad, play the conductor/Everywhere I went, I always tucked a marker in my jacket to bomb up where I went/Cause we were just products, of the environment.3rd Bass

 


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33 Responses to “Rolling Cypher”

  1. Robbie Says:

    Whenever some kid tries to do some shit like this, it usually comes off as super-corny, just like when dudes were harping on about “the four elements” a few years back.

    I mean who really gives a fuck about breaking and beatboxing anymore?

  2. Laughin@yaniggas!!! Says:

    tired, nice try, dont get pushed onto the train tracks by some angry loser after the battle.

  3. P-Matik Says:

    I remember when nobody even had to mention what was real and what wasn’t. Nowadays screaming that “this is REAL hip-hop” stuff is mad corn now.

    Yeah and “breaking” is just extreme gymnastics now, it ain’t even tight like that no more. No style.

  4. cbrizzle AKA 80'S BABY Says:

    BUT YALL GOTTA ADMIT HIP HOP TOOK A CRAZY TURN, THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE FOR BACKPACKERS TO GET SOME SHIT OFF THEIR MIND

  5. Happy New Year Bitches! Says:

    I don’t mean to sound like a pesimist, but who the fuck cares?
    Just a couple o’ old ass niggas freestyling in the subway.
    How the fuck is this goona change hiphop?
    The old heads no longer have a say in rap, It’s all about the teeny-boppers now.

    Sad but true.

  6. the green eyed bandit Says:

    you never know. the thing i like about this is that instead of complaining they are doing something about it. even if its small and may have no impact whatsoever on the mainstream packaging of hiphop they are still getting together and giving themselves something to get excited about. even if its only twice a week.

  7. cashmere Says:

    that’s a cool idea. but hey, let’s do that blunts idea, marker and a panasonic instead. actually, we don’t even really need the panasonic. or markers. or music, i guess. i just want to get so high i might fly aw-aaayyyyy

  8. KingML Says:

    in other news, black people still crooning on street corners in the south.

    WOWWW

  9. eskay Says:

    damn ya’ll are on some real negative shit. the glass is pretty much half empty when it comes to hip hop for most of you nowadays huh?

    of course in the grand scheme some dudes flowing on the subway doesn’t mean shit, but so what…I’d rather see people doing things like this rather than oh I don’t know, shooting people and dressing up like Captain Crunch.

  10. Spliff Huxtable Says:

    ^^cosigned!

  11. mo Says:

    this is a real hot concept. I wonder how long it lasts before they label them terrorists and shut the whole thing down…

    it is dope, may spark an ny underground revival.

  12. cashmere Says:

    not negative- it is a cool idea. i might/maybe go if it materializes. just not sure how well it will fare, i can see some idiots causing shit, or it becoming backpacker fest, but who knows? the idea is a step in the right direction, can’t hate on that. sincere, sincere doubts on the “ny underground revival” thing though, i think NYC is seriously in trouble lately with quality output.

  13. eskay Says:

    yeah I don’t even know if I’d go myself, but it’s just that everybody seems so defeated when it comes to NY hip hop these days. Cahsmere, one thing we all have to understand about the scene out here, is we’ll probably never gonna return to the days we reminisce about. the music and vibe we had back then was born out of alot of factors that happened to converge at the right time and it would pretty much be a miracle for anything even remotely like that to ever happen again.

    that said, I think there’s good underground shit out there to be found, just not as much. and of course it’s not gonna mean as much to us know that we’re all older, jaded, rap snobs. my approach has always been to just accept new shit for what it is and try not to have such high expectations for it.

  14. CapoDiTuttiCapi Says:

    This isnt so bad. Coporate hip hop has taken over though. At somebody cares. 1

  15. es Says:

    fly….

    wonder when mtv will capitalize on this and place it in “the shops” time slot.

  16. El Feces Loco's Brain Says:

    Is that Bobby Brown?

  17. doc holiday Says:

    lol@ es. the shop is corny..diddy is going to be there this week…u know god adn damn well diddy got his own barber…he aint getting his hair cut with other people’s clippers.

    those conversations seems staged. cant get into it like that.

  18. HOLLYHOOD (AN AFTERMATH ARTIST!) Says:

    MAN DATS LIKE NINO BROWN NEW JACK CITY TYPE SHIT. ITS CRAZY!
    ITS OFFICIAL! A-TEAM!

  19. luis Says:

    sweeeeet!, too bad I live in Jersey now grrrrrrrrrr, no matter this could be worth the trip!

  20. HOLLYHOOD (AN AFTERMATH ARTIST!) Says:

    SHUT UP BITCH!

  21. eskay Says:

    Yeah the Shop is the corniest shit ever. Kiss went in there and didn’t even get a cut. I mean I know he rocks a baldy but damn. But yeah those conversations are so contrived, nothing like the real barbershop…

    luis, you know your hero isn’t gonna be there right? (I didn’t say his name so don’t accuse me of ruining the thread)

  22. B-HEEZIE Says:

    UN-RELATED: OH MAN……..I just checked the CAM’PONS thread and saw how dudes were INTERNET BEEFIN’…….. that sh*t was comedy……….Great entertainment for the first day back at work from a 3 day weekend…….. WUT UP ES??!!!!…….. Hope the Weekend was good…… I’m READY FOR ANOTHER WEEK OF THE ILL……

  23. CAPOdiTuttiCAPI Says:

    off topic-Yea that shop shit is a lil confusin. niggas readin a teleprompter gettin cuts.

  24. Rizz Says:

    i noticed that the white people are into it and the one black dude is just lookin at them like “damn thats lame”

  25. luis Says:

    here we go eskay lol, you ruined the thread…..we ALL know who you’re talking about so thank you for ruining the thread once again lol!!!! and I quote “your hero will not be there”…..I kow he will not be there dude, BUT I am a fan of every type of genre/music……HEY the SHOP is cool…..I like the show……..let me guess, just because they are located in QUEENS (home of my hero) and one of his artists showed up on the very 1st episode does not make it a layme show…….(hahaha sorry bro I had to go there lol) and as for that holly”fagg”wood……dude you must really love the attention that you get in here because it is plain to see that you gets NO LOVE at home hence you decide to attact me so I can acknowledge your presence……hahahaha, you’re such a clown!!!!

  26. eskay Says:

    >>just because they are located in QUEENS (home of my hero)

    yeah and you notice how Kiss was all up in your boys neighborhood too right.

    (I know it’s just a TV show, but the G-Unit stans would say the same thing if 50 every dared step foot in Yonkers.)

  27. William H. Sunday Says:

    At what point did being a backpacker become a bad thing? someone sent me an e-mail the other day that explained how a thug was a peon of a mobster. Thugs were the Irish guys or the Jewish Italians that could never acheive ‘mafe’ men status so they were just basically bag holders for the actual mobsters.

    anyhoo, there were great comments on this thread like when someone gave these cats credit for being proactive within Hip-Hop. I thought he was smart to say that. Hip-Hop is on life support right now and most of y’all don’t even realize it. The record industry is not helping new acts to get any shine or even mid level exposure. Crappers have to have 100 person entourages that are filled with no talent knuckleheads. KANGAY IS CAPTAIN CRUNCH.

    Hip-Hop is about to get its plug yanked like that retarded lady in the coma in Florida

  28. Equality Cipher Says:

    “Hip-Hop is about to get its plug yanked like that retarded lady in the coma in Florida”

    lol that shit is funny but true.

    Spontaneous ciphers pop up all the time here and there on the train especially. If you’re at the right place at the right time kids will start spittin’. If you think your good enough to join the cipher, then it’s on until your stop comes up. The train is usually one common spot where battling emcees see each other, it’s on then an there, and you better have you shit tight because you have to ride that line to and from school or work every day, unless you punk out and play the 1st car with the old ladies.

    My point is this shit happens all the time, something spontaneous becomes regular for a while then fizzes out. The news is just on the dick.

    “I mean who really gives a fuck about breaking and beatboxing anymore?”

    If you don’t give a fuck about breaking and beat boxing, keep banging fiddy, shut the fuck up and keep your comments to your self when real heads are talking about hip hop, fuckin’ toy.

  29. HOLLYHOOD (AN AFTERMATH ARTIST) Says:

    WOW A LIVE BOBBY BROWN AND DMX RAP BATTLE. WHAT WILL THEY COME UP WITH NEXT?
    *WILL CAM’RON MAKE SHOE THAT MAKES YOU RUN FASTER WHEN YO BOY IS GETTIN TIMBERLAND’D UP?
    *WILL YOUNG BUCK MAKE A “STUMP” REMIX A DEDTICATION FOR JIM??
    SILLY BUT TRUE BUT IT CAN HAPPEN!! YA NO.

    jay-z’s voice:YEP!

  30. HOLLYHOOD (AN AFTERMATH ARTIST) Says:

    ^^SPELL CHECK AGAIN!!
    THIS DAMN KEYBOARD!!!

  31. MySteeK Says:

    I MEAN, I SEE WHAT THEY DOIN N ALL, BUT ITS TRUE…HIP HOP HAS TURNED INTO HIP POP NOW AND IT SUCKS. BUT HEY, WHAT THE FUCK. PEOPLE WANT THE MONEY…THE FORTUNE, THE FAME…SO WHATTA THEY DO? THEY CHANGE. THEY CHANGE THEIR STYLE. THEY CHANGE THEIR CONTENT, THEIR WHOLE IMAGE. THEY SIGN WITH 50 CENT. IT ALL DEPENDS ON PEOPLES VALUES. WHAT RAPPERS ACTUALLY WANT OUT OF MUSIC. THEY ARENT ABOUT TELLIN PEOPLE STORIES ANYMORE OR GIVING PEOPLE GUIDANCE ER SHINNING LIGHT ON SUBJECT MATTER THAT ‘REGULAR’ PEOPLE ARE IN LIMBO WITH. HIP HOP ISNT A VOICE ANYMORE, ITS AN IMAGE. A FLASHY, FLY-DRESSED, BLING BLING, BIG RIMMED IMAGE. BUT YOU GOTTA ASK YERSELF. WHOULDNT YOU TOO WANT TO LIVE THAT LIFE AND HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL? ITS TWISTED. CAUSE IF U WANT IT, U GET IT ALL, EVEN THE REPRECUSSIONS THAT COME WITH LIVING THE ‘MATERIALISTIC’ LIFESTYLE. U GET CRITISIZED AND PEOPLE BEGIN TO TURN ON RAPPERS WHO THEY ONCE LOVED. THIS WORLD OF HIP HOP TODAY IS SO FUCKED. WHAT PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BRING HIP HOP BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO BE BUT WITHOUT THE VIOLENCE AND CORRUPTION THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT. TILL THAT DAY COMES HIP POP WILL ONLY WORSEN AND EVENTUALLY TAKE ANOTHER STEP IN THAT HORRIBLE TEENY BOPPER DIRECTION. WHEN BRITNEY SPEARS GETS PERMINENT PLAY ON HOTT 97, I’M OUT. THATS IT. DONE.

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