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Hov/Esco Interview Preview

(Unless a Jay/Nas Cam’ron dis collaboaration leaks this weekend, this will be the last post about these two until at least next Tuesday, I swear.)

So MTV played us all out Thursday night and had us watching their lame ass Grammy pre-show thinking they were gonna air the Jay/Nas interview, then they go and show a 30 second snippet. It’s all good though, I can admit when I got taken. The whole interview is scheduled to air February 16th, so look out for that, if you still care. Here’s a 2 minute preview of what to expect.


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116 Responses to “Hov/Esco Interview Preview”

  1. GET Says:

    Good Interview

    LOL at Jay saying people are emulating, what him and Nas did

    Nigga Please you didn’t invent any form of dissing

  2. Des Says:

    emulating the final result

    the final result is peace

    *sigh*

  3. KingML Says:

    People always emulate.
    “Monkey see, monkey do” we came from monkeys

    TRUE THAT

    DOUBLE TRUE.

  4. T Nelson Says:

    In other Words FUCK 50 (Just wanna see how many of you get mad behind that)

  5. eskay Says:

    lol @ T Nelson.

    *waits for NYC, MADDENMASTER, and GET to show up in thread

  6. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    yea o boy t nelson just endend all talk about jay/nas on this thread here we go with another 50 thread

  7. turbulance Says:

    last post?…….well get off their dicks already DAMN!!!! You motherfuckers swear that this jay and nas hook up is a blessing to hip hop……..you dudes are layme as fuck! dick riding faggs!!!!

  8. Luis Says:

    emulating what? Yo, this is what I call “PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH” Emulating what?……the fact that Nas wants/wanted to be like Pac or the fact that Jay dick ride biggie’s coat tail from day one? These dudes are sooooo confusing!!!! I said it before and I’ll say it again…..WHATEVER!!!!

  9. MaddenMaster Says:

    This not about that dude son dreams about so I won’t speak his name nerd!!! Seeing the two together is crazy but to be real Nas let me down big time over the years he don’t have no real grind or work ethic in him….. I remember when he first came out it wasn’t no rapper touching illmatic because he took what Rakim started and give it to the new school in a new package so I thought that was crazy but then he got scared of the fam and vanished and right after biggie said shit nigga you don’t want it I’ll take it he started making secret diss records about Biggie which I didn’t respect because Biggie aint do shit but make good music and then to top that all off he started making more secret records about pac and when pac dissed him back HARD he pulled that bullshit why they picking on me role well then after pac and Bid died he got back on the scene in a major way trying to do what they did and he had a nice run with that firm shit for a few years dissing mase and Jay but then Jay-Z snatched his shine away from him and for like 6 years he dissed Jay with the secret records before takeover came out and then again he tried to make it look like someone was picking on him which I didn’t respect but hey in this entire time he release 4 albums in 10 years under his imprint which is hard to respect since none of them did MAJOR number then he goes on to diss 50 in the park long before 50 every came at Nas and then when 50 got back at him it was more of that he picking on me shit which I don’t respect if you gone through rocks don’t hide your hands stand up for the fight…… Buts thats how nas move thats always been nas so thats why its hard for me to respect the dude I once called the best ever….. His albums haven’t been exactly what I wanted to hear after hearing illmatic but every man goes through different shit at different points so I respect that but he let me down as a fan…. I do respect that the two grown men of rap have set the example for the little kids but that wont last long Jay is getting old and as soon as one person start attacking them everybody gone go at them but seriously I don’t think the entire industry could bring them down if they came correct……. I guess pac and big beef cam after the entire Jay and Nas shit right? Beef been selling records wayyyyy before them dudes and it will wayyyy after lets just hope what they are doing can really make it about the music and kill all the bullshit…

  10. THESP1200 Says:

    Anyone here who disapproves of two men squashing beef never wanted PEACE in the first place. plain and simple. theres no other answer to that. Peace wants peace. hate wants hate. stop frontin’ like you’re for hip hop.

  11. She's So Real Says:

    cliffnotes, anyone?

  12. B-HEEZIE Says:

    MADDEN, sup with getting ur TYLER PERRY on lately man????

  13. MaddenMaster Says:

    Yea I know man I gotta tone that shit down…. I start writing and think its small and that shit be a fucking book…… I’m gone chill out….

    She so real still got my dick in her mouth…. I got a cliffnote fa ya ass right after you get my dick out ya throat!!

    Damn…

  14. B-HEEZIE Says:

    I see….. don’t get me wrong, I read’em man, it’s just that I be at work, u gonna get a latin brotha fired……and I need my job.

  15. B-HEEZIE Says:

    At least there wasn’t any G-UNIT talk…..HAHAHA…

  16. D.I. Says:

    ****R.I.P. JAY-DEE****

  17. MaddenMaster Says:

    JAY DEE………. WHAT?

  18. MaddenMaster Says:

    Yo my bad B-HEEZI Consider it cut the fuck out…… and nigga I don’t be on that G-Unit or D-Lox shit like that you got jokes….. But yo you see how shorty is like my stalker? she need a fucking hoddy uh role model or something…… I offered to let her pick the lint off my nutts said dhe was busy with two other sets of balls already and would get back to me…..

    Waiting…..

  19. B-HEEZIE Says:

    Just heard man…… JAY DEE (SlumVillage)R.I.P…..

  20. B-HEEZIE Says:

    Stalkin’ HARD KID!!!!!! LMAO @ “I offered to let her pick the lint off my nuts….”

  21. MaddenMaster Says:

    She seems bored I thought I’d give her somthing that could consume her free time…. Hey just trying to be a gentlemen!!

  22. She's So Real Says:

    BORED, nigga?

    Like this?:

    “This not about that dude son dreams about so I won’t speak his name nerd!!! Seeing the two together is crazy but to be real Nas let me down big time over the years he don’t have no real grind or work ethic in him….. I remember when he first came out it wasn’t no rapper touching illmatic because he took what Rakim started and give it to the new school in a new package so I thought that was crazy but then he got scared of the fam and vanished and right after biggie said shit nigga you don’t want it I’ll take it he started making secret diss records about Biggie which I didn’t respect because Biggie aint do shit but make good music and then to top that all off he started making more secret records about pac and when pac dissed him back HARD he pulled that bullshit why they picking on me role well then after pac and Bid died he got back on the scene in a major way trying to do what they did and he had a nice run with that firm shit for a few years dissing mase and Jay but then Jay-Z snatched his shine away from him and for like 6 years he dissed Jay with the secret records before takeover came out and then again he tried to make it look like someone was picking on him which I didn’t respect but hey in this entire time he release 4 albums in 10 years under his imprint which is hard to respect since none of them did MAJOR number then he goes on to diss 50 in the park long before 50 every came at Nas and then when 50 got back at him it was more of that he picking on me shit which I don’t respect if you gone through rocks don’t hide your hands stand up for the fight…… Buts thats how nas move thats always been nas so thats why its hard for me to respect the dude I once called the best ever….. His albums haven’t been exactly what I wanted to hear after hearing illmatic but every man goes through different shit at different points so I respect that but he let me down as a fan…. I do respect that the two grown men of rap have set the example for the little kids but that wont last long Jay is getting old and as soon as one person start attacking them everybody gone go at them but seriously I don’t think the entire industry could bring them down if they came correct……. I guess pac and big beef cam after the entire Jay and Nas shit right? Beef been selling records wayyyyy before them dudes and it will wayyyy after lets just hope what they are doing can really make it about the music and kill all the bullshit…”

    writing a fucking novel about stupid shit? that kind of bored? LMBAO.

    as far as stalking goes.. don’t flatter yourself, b. your man said the same thing. and half of the comments in this post have been from you two losers.

    who’s got too much free time?

  23. MaddenMaster Says:

    Apparently you……. I wrote it and you took the time to repost it…… And telling me I wrote to much isn’t a diss if I said it first!!! But there is plenty of nutt lint here for you now please…………… GET OFF MY DICK!!

  24. e-dubbs Says:

    you can tell from Jay body language, he dying for Nas to be his friend. Nas looks like “f*ck it, we cool.. lets get money”..

    I can only pray Sway asked Jay how it felt to lose..

  25. Shaft Says:

    RIP JAY DEE! hey ya’ll show some love,respect and honor for super producer Jay Dee aka. J Dilla…he’s given us some of the best music for more than a decade..R.I.P.

  26. MaddenMaster Says:

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  27. MaddenMaster Says:

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  28. Fury Says:

    I know this has nothing to do wit hthe topic,but R.I.P to my nigga Jay Dee,from the original slum village.Dude was one of the nicest producers no one knows about

  29. eskay Says:

    >>I can only pray Sway asked Jay how it felt to lose..

    Jay won.

    R.I.P. J Dilla

  30. Kay Says:

    Eskay,

    Jay lost.

    Plain and simple.

    “Ether” was much better than “Takeover”.

  31. e dubbs Says:

    S, usually I would say the winner of the battle is really based on personal opinion. This one is open and shut because Hot97 did the vote, fans voted Esco the winner not once, not twice, but THREE times.

    Jay lost.

  32. strongchef Says:

    true

  33. Demiks Says:

    Off topic, but DMX’s new song is craaaaaaazy! We In Here, or whatever its called.

  34. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    e dubbs Says:

    February 11th, 2006 at 9:50 am
    S, usually I would say the winner of the battle is really based on personal opinion. This one is open and shut because Hot97 did the vote, fans voted Esco the winner not once, not twice, but THREE times.

    Jay lost.

    the vote was ether vs. superugly which is bullshit because superugly had no chance because a) it was over another dudes beat just a regular mixtape type diss. b) ether wont it with the beat and the hook plain and simple he didnt say one truthful thing to really get at jigga but call him camel joe people love ether cause over the hook and the beat. c) again if the vote on hot 97 was takeover vs. ether it would of been a different story but how could a freestyle mixtape type diss have a chance against a fully thougout song with a new crazy beat and an actual hook, superugly was just the verses from jay and that annoying ass knocturnal thats why he lost that vote

  35. eskay Says:

    Blueprint 2 > Ether

    Nas won the battle but lost the war.

  36. thekid10705 Says:

    “you can tell from Jay body language, he dying for Nas to be his friend. Nas looks like “f*ck it, we cool.. lets get money”

    In the back of Jay’s head and I will bet behind closed doors Jay knows he was wrong for trying to get at Nas…Jay’s always been chasing Nas in NYC ( no matter what the record sales are, you know what I’m talking about)
    That’s why Nas is the winner cause Jay will always be chasing him..As for the beef did anyone hear ” Stillmatic”..?…Nas ripped Jay on that shit…He didn’t even have to put out Ether…

    Truly, is Jay really sonnin’ Nas in the grand scheme of things?…

  37. G Off Says:

    Tyrone is right about the vote. Plus, it’s a damn radio poll… if they had done a poll right after Takeover was dropped it would have been the other way.

    Ether was hot and had the emotional impact because at that point Nas was the underdog, but if you look at the lyrics Jay got him (in one verse vs. 3 verses for Nas).

    But, I don’t like how people say that since Nas signed to Jay he lost… it makes it seem like Jay is doing it just to “win” a battle that has been dead for four years. Let the battle be what it was (I know we will be debating this for years) but let this new chapter be a new chapter. Hopefully good music will prevail over all the petty bullshit.

  38. kheri wes Says:

    eskay says:

    Blueprint 2 > Ether

    Nas won the battle but lost the war.

    yo real talk ether was better than all of blue print 2 outside of the dynasty that was Jay’s worst album, granted nas has put out some bullshit too, but there was no gift in blueprint 2 that shit was all a curse. Takeover was decent but ether was better then all of jay’s disses and he knew it.

  39. Demiks Says:

    ^ I think es’ point was to try and say Jay’s worst album is better then Ether.

  40. Demiks Says:

    …but it’s not.

  41. 07 Says:

    This is good. bout time. but about the battle. i think nas got him and ima fan of both. Even in brooklyn niggas know nas got him in the battle. b/c jay got all of state property and them involved. but who cares that chapter is done. big up to these two. turn hip hop back to Rap.

  42. eskay Says:

    No I was talking about BP2 the song:

    Can’t y’all, see that he’s fake, the rap version of TD jakes
    Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
    Won’t break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
    And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
    I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
    When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
    Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
    When I was out on the road, that’s how you judge Hov, no?
    Ain’t I supposed to be absorbed myself?
    Every time there’s a tragedy, I’m the first one to help
    They call me this misogynist, but they don’t call me the dude
    To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
    These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
    they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
    And y’all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
    Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don’t mean that he bright
    Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
    It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he
    write
    Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
    Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?
    I’ve been real all my life, they confuse it with conceit
    Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
    But I will not lose, for even in defeat
    There’s a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
    When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
    I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though

  43. e-dubbs Says:

    S, gotta disagree again with you.. You can tell on that song BP2 that he was so distraught over losing and was begging for the fans to side with him. He came across as so insecure on that song, just my take.

    And dudes can argue the hot97 poll all they want. Nas murdered that boy in my opinion. I mean he murdered dude so bad that “ether” is the common term used when someone kills someone else or someone gets killed.

    I like both dudes almost equal on any given day but when Nas drops joints like “Black Girl Lost”, “Project Window”, “Fetus” it destroys anything Jay ever made. (in my opinion of course)

  44. eskay Says:

    maybe Ether was the best song out of the whole confrontation, but I’d never admit that anyway, so its irrelevant. look the fact is, Nas did a bunch of lyin on that song which cancels out 40% of it’s musical superiority and then when you factor in Jay coming back with truthful verses like the one above you have no choice but to conclude that Jay > Nas. face it, Nasir caught a lucky break.

    Nas lost.

  45. GET Says:

    Jay Lost

    I remember him on Hot 97 after Ether drop, this nigga sounded like he wanted to cry, nigga was all confused and stuttering. LOL

  46. e-dubbs Says:

    S, how did Jay come back with truthful verses in BP2? He gave his opinion on Nas the same way Nas gave his opinion on Jay in Ether.

  47. HOLLYHOOD (FUTURE AFTERMATH ARTIST) Says:

    YEAH JAY KINNA LOST THE BATTLE BUT WON THE WAR!! CAM RAN!

  48. eskay Says:

    Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
    It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he
    write
    Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
    Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?

    ^ thats not the truth?

  49. e-dubbs Says:

    “Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
    It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he
    write
    Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
    Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?”

    ^ thats not the truth?

    But who doesnt understand Nas’s rhymes? Its not like he rappin’ like Aceyalone. Maybe only Jay couldnt digest Nas lyrically because if your a grown man and can’t figure out what Nas is rapping about maybe droppin’ out of HS was a bad idea. And we already covered being a hyprocrite. Every artist is a hypocrite. It proved nothing.

  50. eskay Says:

    Nas spits alot of bullshit that’s meant to sound like he has some kind of historical knowledge when in reality he’s just making reference to people and events that have nothing to do with each other or just plain making stuff up ‘cuz it sounds good. which is fine, alot of people do that, but the average fool on the street doesn’t know any better and walks around thinking Nas is some kind of genius. Jay called him on it. and as far as the hypocrisy, all artists may or may not be hippocrates, but Nas is certainly their King.

  51. Amped Says:

    What did Nas lie about on Ether?

  52. eskay Says:

    Jay’s 36, Beans is better than him, Rockefeller died of AIDS (that’s him making shit up again and niggas taking it as gospel.)

  53. SF Says:

    Co-sign Eskay. I’m hangin’ for the full interview.

  54. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    damn eskay i hate to seem like i agree with everything that you say but god damn if i dont. you just said all my exact arguements against why nas lost that battle to jay. the rocafella dies of aids and thats who name your company after, like eskay said no he didnt and even if he did they wouldnt of know then cause no one knew what aids was the he made that up completely out of nowhere and people were running with it liek of shit hov named his company after a gay dude, wtf??? and now everyone has to understand what hov meant with the

    “Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
    It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he
    write
    Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
    Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?”

    come on who on here doesnt have atleast one friend like nas. you know what i mean the dude that is always trying to act like he knows everything and just tries to throw out ig words and say some shit that will be above others head and try to play it off as he is a genius when really he is makeing no sense and doesnt know a god damn thing??? no one hear knows people like that, the people that just talk and dont know what they are saying but they say it with such a confidence most people dont question it their just like god damn dudes smart when in reaity he dont even know what he is saying.i know plenty of people like that and that guy is also nas.

    to amped what did nas say on ether that was true besides the joe camel shit???
    nothing everything else was just generic disses that could be used for anyone. hov actual got at NAS specifically everything he said was a direct hit at NAS and he said exactly what every frustrated nas fan has been thinking for years on takeover. i mean i was a huge nas fan when illmatic dropped i loved it was written ( by cormega )but after that i felt exactly how jay felt and when he dropped it in takeover it was a rap he hit it right on point with the truth about how nas fell off

  55. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    I know you missin all the – FAAAAAAAME!
    But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
    Nigga; you a – LAAAAAAAME!
    Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
    Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco’s trash
    Had a spark when you started but now you’re just garbage
    Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
    to your bodyguard’s “Oochie Wally” verse better than yours
    Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
    but I know – the sun don’t shine, then son don’t shine
    That’s why your – LAAAAAAAME! – career come to a end
    There’s only so long fake thugs can pretend
    Nigga; you ain’t live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
    You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
    I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
    (Me, that’s who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser
    So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
    You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
    And you ain’t get a corn nigga you was gettin fucked and
    I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
    Use your – BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
    I’ve been in it five – smarten up Nas
    Four albums in ten years nigga? I could divide
    That’s one every let’s say two, two of them shits was due
    One was – NAHHH, the other was “Illmatic”
    That’s a one hot album every ten year average
    And that’s so – LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
    Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
    (Get the fuck outta here) You niggaz gon’ learn to respect the king
    Don’t be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
    Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
    with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for now

    i mean “you had a spark when you started but now your just garbage/ fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all to you bodyguards oochie wallys verse better than yours ” ( it was )

    You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
    And you ain’t get a corn nigga you was gettin fucked and
    I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing ( thats real talk right there )

    You said you been in this ten
    I’ve been in it five – smarten up Nas
    Four albums in ten years nigga? I could divide
    That’s one every let’s say two, two of them shits was due
    One was – NAHHH, the other was “Illmatic”
    That’s a one hot album every ten year average
    And that’s so – LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
    Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?

    seriously nas was still living off of the success of illmatic he fell off after that and jay gave him the light to ressurect his career, hopefully nas teaming up with hov again will bring that illmatic out but people that say nas won the battle just couldnt dechiper jay’s lines right because everything he said was the truth and actually got at NAS no one else just nas, nas made a generic ass diss track with a crazy beat and a hot hook thats why people went so hard with it, also again people were comparing superugly to ether in the votes not takeover or blueprint 2

  56. eskay Says:

    smarten up Nas (fans)

  57. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    yo eskay, im at work now and dont have blueprint 2 here, and you got me really wanting to hear that shit right now ” and your little homie jungle is a garden to me ” can you upload it or do something so i dont have to wait until i go home to hear it?

  58. eskay Says:

    Biggums, nah I’m at work too, and I accidentally removed my Jay discography from my ipod the other day. sorry bruh.

  59. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    its all good, im just gonna have to wait to i get home now

  60. e dubbs Says:

    I’ve heard the stories about John D. Rockefella dying from AIDS way before Nas ever mentioned it.

    Please give me some examples of stuff that Nas has said that is “lies”.. I’m still waiting.

    Either way, in my opinion Nas best work is better than Jay’s best work. But it depends what you consider inspiring music.

  61. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    you give me some proof that he died of aids, man they didnt even know what the fuck aids was when rockefella died.

    everything he said was just generic disses that could fit anyone, they didnt actually attack hov for anything the only thing that directly got at him was joe camel, tell me one other thing he said in ether that was truthful and really described jay besides his big lipped joe camel shit. what when he aid you fake you phony you a stan ( how is a dude that outsold you by god only knows in half the time a STAN explain that shit to me ) just give me something anything in ether he said that really actually got at jay ( that didnt have to do with his looks )

  62. eskay Says:

    well that’s kind of impossible since both John D. Rockefeller’s, Junior and Senior, died in 1960 and 1937 respectively, way before the AIDS virus was even discovered. If you want to come back with some unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that’s fine, but then you’re gonna really sound like Nas.

  63. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    OK SO YOUR SURE JOHN D. ROCKEFELLA DIES OF AIDS HUH?

    John Davison Rockefeller (July 8, 1839 – May 23, 1937) was an American industrialist who played a prominent role in the early oil industry with the founding of Standard Oil (ExxonMobil is the largest of its descendants). Over a forty-year period, Rockefeller built Standard Oil into the largest company in the world, and was for a time the richest man in the world. [1] A devout Baptist, he supported many church activities throughout his life, and spent his last forty years focusing on philanthropic pursuits, primarily education and public health, eventually giving away about half of his wealth.

    NOW WHEN WAS THE FIRST CASE OF AIDS FOUND??

    Mid-1970’s-1980 history

    We do not know how many people developed AIDS in the 1970s, or indeed in the years before. Neither do we know, and we probably never will know, where the AIDS virus HIV originated (see our origins page for some theories). But what we do know is:

    “The dominant feature of this first period was silence, for the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) was unknown and transmission was not accompanied by signs or symptoms salient enough to be noticed. While rare, sporadic case reports of AIDS and sero-archaeological studies have documented human infections with HIV prior to 1970, available data suggest that the current pandemic started in the mid- to late 1970s. By 1980, HIV had spread to at least five continents (North America, South America, Europe, Africa and Australia). During this period of silence, spread was unchecked by awareness or any preventive action and approximately 100,000-300,000 persons may have been infected.”

    – Jonathan Mann -1

    THATS A MIGHTY BIG TIME GAP ( AND THAT ROCKEFELLA WAS ACTUALLY THE ORIGNALS SON ) SO YOU STILL SURE HE DIED OF AIDS. STUPID PEOPLE MAN.

    JUST CAUSE NAS SAID IT DONT MEAN THAT HE RIGHT

  64. e dubbs Says:

    Not to go off topic but the Aids virus was never really “discovered”. I am in belief that it was a man made disease by our goverment. So I wouldnt be suprised if it did exist way before we became aware of its existence.

    Either way, this argument is similar to the Papoose/Saigon debate. I think Nas won, you think Jay won. Only thing that makes it extra is the voting situation that occured on hot97 which solidified the feeling that Nas won for most people.

  65. eskay Says:

    ok, why don’t we just say The Little Homey won the battle but lost the war and leave it at that.

  66. nudlez be Says:

    Eskay you take that fuckin wit the die hard fan shit to the heart dontcha I don’t know about the truth in the lyrics but I think that nigga knock jay off his bike an when he tried to get up an ride he needed training wheels. True enough jay cold and blew up bigger then nas but after ether jay comeback was weak bp2 then that nigga came back wit last real nigga alive that muthafucka was cold right there that was real shit. Jay outsold the nigga but technically speakin in the name of the soundscan niggas all that niggas nas albums sold platinum with the exception the firm and streets disciple oh an that qb shit. The nigga down fall is not bein consistent

  67. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    Not to go off topic but the Aids virus was never really “discovered”. I am in belief that it was a man made disease by our goverment. So I wouldnt be suprised if it did exist way before we became aware of its existence.

    and who knows aids could of been around for 5000 years we dont know thats just my point. the first known case of aids was in the 70’s thats way way after rockefella died so how could nas possibly claim he died of aids?

    and again the vote on hot 97 was which was better superugly or ether and ill give you ether was better than superugly cause it was a mixtape diss record freestyle but takeover and blueprint 2 would of both easily won the vote over ether.

    and you still havent pulled out one thing nas said that was truthful and really got at jay (besides his looks ) this is what the 3rd or 4th time ive asked you this and still havent even gotten a generic excuse as to why you cant get one, your just ignoreing it hoping ill let that point just slide away. me and eskay have put up lots of things jay said that really got at nas and attacked his character and his legacy and all you can talk about is ” i heard rumors rockefella really did have aids ‘ get the fuck out of here. you like nas because you like to hear non logical nonsense, im a man of reason of logic and when someone can break a person down as well as hov broke nas apart in takeover and blueprint 2 i cant help but respect it

  68. eskay Says:

    >>but after ether jay comeback was weak bp2

    I just don’t see how BP2 was weak. that’s powerful music if I ever heard it.

  69. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    ^^^ serioulsy thats one of the best diss tracks ever. easy top 10 diss track if not top 5. thats the difference between the people who say nas won the battle and the people like me and eskay who say jay did. nas fans cant admit that anything jay has ever done is hot ( excet signing nas thats the first move he made you agree with and your just so sour he admitted defeat to him ) the jay fans can admit nas had some crazy shit back in the day ( last couple of albums were awful tho besides poison, rewind, made you look and ether he hasnt put out shit. mc burial was hot and the honeymoon is over was pretty hot except where he talked about pac talking about him on amkevelli and tried to make it look like a good look for nas ( i mean only nas dilusional ass could try to make pac talking shit about him out to be a good thing ) then the best shit he put out was written by quan ( the moment of slience shit was real hot )
    maybe he can get quan to write him an album like mega wrote it was written and he will get back on top. im just playing i am looking forward to new nas with premo beats and jay in the lab with him he will hopefully put out some illmatic type heat. and thats the difference people who think nas lost are really just disapponited with what he has pit out since it was written and they want more from nas we want nas to do well we want nasty nas back. the nas stans just want jay to fail and suffer because their hate and evy have totally taken over and they cant think rationally anymore.

    this summer is going to be crazy. new jay new nas with production from the best, ghostface coming out new redman new joe budden and i cant even believe im saying this but im defintely waiting to hear the new GAME that boy really has steped his shit up. this is gonna be a crazy year for music a real good look for hip-hop and hopefully some of these young cats like saigon and papoose can come out to

  70. nudlez be Says:

    It had its moments but 4a double album him and nas double albums we re both unnecessary

  71. eskay Says:

    BP2 >>> Street’s Disciple anyday.

  72. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    ill agree with you all day the double albums were completely unnessecary and too watered down thats my problem with blueprint 2 but i still think its a slept on album cause if you just took the best tracks from it and elimitated most of the trash like guns and roses you would have a hot ass regular cd but he made the mistake of reaching for a double album, shit b.i.g. and pac couldnt pull it off without a bunch of garbage fillers between the bangers either what made them think they could.

    but look i could break blueprint 2 down into one real hot album

    1) U Dont Know Remix
    2) MEET THE PARENTS
    3) Some How Some Way
    4) Some People Hate
    5) BLUEPRINT 2
    6) Nigga Please
    7) A Ballad For The Fallen Soldier
    8) Show You How
    9) Bitches & Sisters
    10) A Dream
    11) Hovi Baby
    12) THE WATCHER 2
    13) Popin’ Tags
    14) THE BOUNCE
    15) I DID IT MY WAY

    that would of been a real crazy single disc album

  73. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    how the fuck did i make the smiley face thing i dont even know the fuck to do that shit?

  74. El Feces Loco Says:

    :0)…Is it possible for black people to like more than one artist in the same category?..at the same time? Why we be on some divide and conquer shit?
    Oh i remember…thats what the white man taught us…ok I’m sorry blog on.

  75. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    ^^^ that is my point with most nas fans. most die hard nas fans hate jay and refuse to acknowledge him as even decent, but most jay fans like the old nas and some of his shit and we want him to do well and come back with that heat its just he hasnt been living up to his expectations and has been letting us down and jay has been doing just the opposite but i honestly want nas’s new album to be crack

  76. e dubbs Says:

    ^^ well, I like both artists. I just like Nas better. As for never responding to your questions what Nas said that was true, I never even noticed you asking. I happen to skip past most of your replies because I find them way to long.

    I can’t imagine BP2 being a top 10 diss track. I didnt even consider it a diss track. He dedicated a few subliminals to Nas in the song, big deal.

    And in my opinion BP2 was not wack but was not great.. Street Disciple wasnt great either but was better than BP2.

  77. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    subliminals ???? either you never heard the song or you just didnt listen good or you apparently know nothing about nas if you cant figure out who he is talking about

    H, O V A
    I got my mojo back baby, oh behave
    Naw, naw, don’t be afraid
    Y’all and your articles, hard to spit at Jay
    Y’all from afar threw thoughts my way
    What you thought, I would naught have nothing to say? Nope!
    Y’all fell into the booby trap
    I set the trap just to see dude react, and now
    And now you’se can’t leave
    You opened the door god, I’m at you annually
    And I’m sorry Miss Rosie Perez
    I call a spade a spade, it just is what it is
    But you can’t give cred to anything dude says
    Same dude to give you ice and you owe him some head
    (Shortyyyy!) It’s time to wake up the dead
    You sound a little naive in them articles that I read

    Can’t y’all, see that he’s fake, the rap version of TD jakes
    Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
    Won’t break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
    And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
    I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
    When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
    Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
    When I was out on the road, that’s how you judge Hov, no?
    Ain’t I supposed to be absorbed myself?
    Every time there’s a tragedy, I’m the first one to help
    They call me this misogynist, but they don’t call me the dude
    To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
    These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
    they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
    And y’all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
    Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don’t mean that he bright
    Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
    It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he
    write
    Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
    Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?
    I’ve been real all my life, they confuse it with conceit
    Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
    But I will not lose, for even in defeat
    There’s a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
    When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
    I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
    Saving me the hassle of speaking to half of these assholes
    And I’ma let karma catch up to Jaz-O, whoa
    I’m back before you had a chance to miss me
    My mama can’t save you this time, niggas is history
    Who you know flow vicious as me?
    Yet so religiously, that’s why they call me Hov
    I get the spoils cause the victor is me (me, nigga)
    You’re an actor, you’re not who you’re depicted to be
    The street dreamin, all y’all niggas living through me
    I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee
    I’m a legend, you should take a picture with me
    You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a
    fee
    I’m Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea
    And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me
    What’s the problem B? You not as hard as me
    Nigga hard as we, nigga R O C, nigga
    That’s why they follow me, they feel my pain and my agony, nigga
    I won’t rest till you on one knee
    You want war then it’s war’s gonna be, nigga
    Until you on one knee, you want war then it’s war’s gonna be,
    nigga

  78. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    As for never responding to your questions what Nas said that was true, I never even noticed you asking. I happen to skip past most of your replies because I find them way to long.

    ^^^ and ok well now you noticed and you still havent responded and god knows how much time youve had to get your shit together? and no other nas stans have been able to come and save you because he didnt say anything and you people are just lying to yourselves

  79. eskay Says:

    yeah I don’t know about those being subliminals, that whole song is dedicated to the Little Homey.

    BP2 > Street’s Disciple all day everyday.

    God SD was such a dissapointment. I seriously enjoyed about 4 songs on that shit and it was a double disc.

  80. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    thats what im saying eskay. when i hate on nas its out of disappointment its because i expected more from him thats all. and yea that dude threw all his credibility out the window when he said blueprint 2 was just subliminals a0 he says his name b) he lists some of his songs c) he talks about his brother d) come one everything he said if you can read and or hear you know was a direct shot at nas and was 1005 truthful

  81. HOLLYHOOD (FUTURE AFTERMATH ARTIST) Says:

    ^^ YO WHATZZUP NIGGA.

  82. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    chillin whats good hollyhood

  83. strongchef Says:

    I let this go on for too long… GET OVER IT JAY Z STANS. jay cant see nas lyrically, and by the way tyrone double check your stats cause 97.1 also did takeover vs ether and ether won (of course it did why wouldnt it)
    and u guys sayin nas was lyin, oh so u must not have seen jiggas early video when he was wearing hawaiin shirts, and yall are the same ppl that never heard krs 1’s album get a grip yea jay became president and went further economically but when u talk about the art of emceein, hands down nas wins. every verse he draws a mental picture the blind can touch.

    And stop with this bp2 shit by that time godson across his belly he proved jay lost already

  84. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    ^^^ nas stop hateing your signed to dude now dont get shelved

  85. cboy Says:

    Just a quick injection to a good conversation: I always interpreted Nas’ “rocafella died of aids”…as a reference to Rock Hudson, who rocked fellas, and died of aids. Not the mogul. Hov won the battle but people didn’t fully digest what he laid down in Takeover. Big-up to the peace movement though.

  86. strongchef Says:

    lol @ callin me nas.
    ands yea im all for this movement, lets go

  87. Thadopeja Says:

    Jay-Z won the battle and the war easily. Both rappers are easily the best 2 rappers out right now. We are all waiting for Jay’s album when he destroy Cam, and we are all waiting for Nas to take it back to Illmatic. It was good to see the “old Nas” when he spit Ether, but seriously, the rest of his shit is wack. Jay doesn’t have that problem. Every verse he spits is hot. Period. Nas has the potential to be the best ever. The scene in Belly when he makes a visual to his verse from “One Love” with shorty smoking the blunt was nice. No other rapper has done that. Both are complex superior, lyricists in a time of 50 Cent-Ja Rule type sing along rappers. I have a sick sense of humor and 3 baby mamas that I could care less about, that being said, Superugly was the funniest comeback verse I have heard. If a nigga bust nuts in the my baby’s seat, I ain’t worried, it shows what kind of hoe I was slippin with. My kid won’t be in that car seat when he’s with me so skeet in it all you want. Hopefully the mama will have more respect for our seed than to let him sit in the car seat. Or on the couch. Or lay down on the living room floor. Also, when rappers are battling, truth about the other one is extremely important, and in this case, I have to say Jay was more truthful. At least his statements can be backed up. Superugly was better than Ether, and Takeover is probably the song that initiated the peace between Jay and Nas. Bottomline, I am happy to see these two resolve their differences and work together. I love hip hop and these two guys are an integral part of hip hop’s future. They need to get together, murder Cam and all the other fakes out there and restore the music, because the music is fading fast.

  88. ray rizzle Says:

    nah that shit on BP2 was not about desperation. That was the real stuff right there. Jay-z said the most real stuff in the whole battle. What did Nas say 1- ur a homo 2. u and dame are trying to be puffy and biggy (yeah right) 3. Nas always “sounds” like he knows what he’s talking about but what is he really talking about when u strip away all the bravado and the wise man persona? But you know what, this is a great thing for hip hop, it didn’t end in gun shots. THey kep it on the records and they are both moving forward. Its like the Bulls dynasty in reverse, now Scotty comes to play with the Bulls to help MJ win some “more” championships. Nah but for reals, this isn’t just for the “little kids” this is something that DRE AND Easy wish they did, cause i mena who knows how conscience easy was when dre came to his bedside, this is something that pac and biggie should have done and probably wish they did in their hearts when they were just alone and really reflecting on it. So its done, time to move forward. Oh and by the way, isn’t it Dame Dash’s responsibilty to have funk with Hov about the stealing Rocafela shit. And if CAM’RON WAS getting fined when they were with the roc isnt that on Dame Dash and Kareem Biggs too? Cam’ron sounds like me, mad at my former boss.

  89. Son's God Says:

    takeover

  90. Equality Cipher Says:

    One hand washes the other, they are both GOD EMCEES.

    That’s why Either hit Hova so hard, Nas came with the mathamatics out right not subliminally, those that know, knew. “Nah, I’m trying to kick that shit you need to learn though, that either, that shit that makes you soul burn slow”. If Hova retaliated with the math he learned under JAZ and BDK (do the research) then he would have won hands down but he (Hova) couldn’t alienate his mainstream audience (gotta’ get that paper god). I think, or at least I hope some supreme teaching comes out in the music.

    As for Nas, when Search first shopped for his deal he went straight to Russ at you guessed it, Def Jam. Russ turn down the artist of a lifetime reasoning Nas sounded too much like Kool G Rap, Columbia jumped at the opportunity. Nas has always wanted to be on Def Jam since Live at the BBQ. Finally after almost 15 years he gets the opportunity with Hova’s help, of course.

    My features are that of a god, it’s not a façade, it’s a fact, these rappers want to be Nas. . .

    It’s the GOD EMCEE, me Jay Hova. . .

  91. ray rizzle Says:

    I love that nas line i used to rewind that shit in my car just to hear it over again – yeah being on def jam is like being on the yankees for baseball players – it doesnt matter if ur from ur a big corn bred fed mo fo from iowa or a skinny kid in the dominican hittin rocks wiht a stick, u want to go to def jam. Its like the ultimate mc stomping grounds, a right of passage if u will. Does anyone know why more west coast artist are not signed to def jam? Richie Rich is the only one that i know of.

  92. Son's God Says:

    You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga

    >>

    I got this, locked since ‘9-1
    I am the truest, name a rapper that i ain’t influenced

    >>

    With hawaiin sophie fame, kept my name in his music
    Check it

    >>

    Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
    To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, i can handle
    This for dolo and it’s manuscript, just sound stupid

    >>

    When krs already made an album called blueprint
    >>>

    First, biggie’s ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than big
    Dick suckin lips, whyn’t you let the late, great veteran live

    >>

    You traded your soul for riches
    My child, i’ve watched you grow up to be famous

    >>

    And now i smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
    You seem to be only concerned with dissin women

    >>
    Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?

    In ’88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
    Callin my crib and i ain’t even give you my numbers
    All i did was gave you a style for you to run with
    Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
    Wearin jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
    No jail bars jigga, no pies, no case
    Just hawaiian shirts, hangin with little chase

    >>>

    You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a stan
    I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class

    >>

    Is he dame diddy, dame daddy or dame dummy?
    Oh, i get it, you biggie and he’s puffy

    >>

    Rockafeller died of aids, that was the end of his chapter
    And that’s the guy y’all chose to name your company after?

    >>

    Foxy got you hot ’cause you kept your face in her puss
    What you think, you gettin girls now ’cause of your looks?

    >>

    Compared to beans you wack

    >>

    And your man stabbed un and made you take the blame

    >>

    You ass, went from jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big

    >>

    And, eminem murdered you on your own shit

    >>

    Queens niggas run you niggas, ask russell simmons
    >>

    Shaun carter to jay-z, damn you on jaz dick
    >>

    Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
    >>

    You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask kiss
    >>

  93. conspiracyBrother Says:

    YO, E-Dubbs sealed the deal with this commentary!!!!>>>> S, gotta disagree again with you.. You can tell on that song BP2 that he was so distraught over losing and was begging for the fans to side with him. He came across as so insecure on that song, just my take.

    And dudes can argue the hot97 poll all they want. Nas murdered that boy in my opinion. I mean he murdered dude so bad that “ether” is the common term used when someone kills someone else or someone gets killed.

    I like both dudes almost equal on any given day but when Nas drops joints like “Black Girl Lost”, “Project Window”, “Fetus” it destroys anything Jay ever made. (in my opinion of course) …..

    That’s science right there!!!!!

  94. e dubbs Says:

    I dont have to go and research dudes lyrics to prove he didnt lie. Show me something where he lied and I’ll analyze it.

    Anyway, Nas better to me and I’m happy about it.

  95. TYRONEBIGGUMS Says:

    you asked e-dubbs

    You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga

    >>

    I got this, locked since ‘9-1
    I am the truest, name a rapper that i ain’t influence

    (GIVE ME A BREAK NAS AND JAYS STYLES ARE NOTHING ALIKE NOT EVEN CLOSE )

    First, biggie’s ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than big
    Dick suckin lips, whyn’t you let the late, great veteran live

    (APPARENTLY NAS HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS LOTS OF YOU HAVE AND THATS THE WAY TO TWIST PEOPLE WORDS TO HEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR )

    And now i smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
    You seem to be only concerned with dissin women

    ( YEA OK NAS NEVER EVER DISREPECTS WOMEN, RIGHT)

    In ‘88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
    Callin my crib and i ain’t even give you my numbers
    All i did was gave you a style for you to run with
    Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
    Wearin jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
    No jail bars jigga, no pies, no case
    Just hawaiian shirts, hangin with little chase

    ( NAS IS THE ONE WITH THE SWEET CHILDHOOD HE WAS NEVER IN THE STREETS EVER JAY PUT HIS WORK IN BEFORE HE STARTED HIS OWN LABEL.

    You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a stan

    ( HOW IS HE A PHONY ESPECIALLY MORE OF ONE THAN NAS, HOW IS HE A PUSSY OR A STAN PLEASE HE KILLS NAS LYRICALLY AND SALES )

    Is he dame diddy, dame daddy or dame dummy?
    Oh, i get it, you biggie and he’s puffy

    WHAT THE IS EVEN THE POINT OF THIS JUST THROWING BIG INTO IT FOR SHOCK VALUE GARBAGE, PLEASE DAME AND HOV NEVER ACTED LIKE BIG AND PUFF EXCEPT IN THE WAY THEY TOOK OVER THE GAME AND MADE CRAZY MONEY ( DONT GET IT TWISTED AND THINK I ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SALES IM JUST TAKEING THAT ARGUEMENT AWAY FROM THE NAS FANS )

    Rockafeller died of aids, that was the end of his chapter
    And that’s the guy y’all chose to name your company after?

    WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THIS IS A BOLD FACE LIE

    Compared to beans you wack

    >>

    And your man stabbed un and made you take the blam

    BEANS IS NICE BUT NOWHERE NEAR HOV EVEN NAS KNOWS THAT AND CAM SAYS HOV STABBED UN OVER CHARLI B-MORE AND UN SAYS IT NEVER HAPPENED IT WAS JUST A PUBLICTY STUNT SO WHO KNOWS???

    You ass, went from jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big

    >>

    And, eminem murdered you on your own shi

    OOO YOU HUNG OUT WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE OUCH, AND YEA GETTING HURT BY EM YEA IM SURE HE IS THE ONLY RAPPER TO EVEN BE OUTDONE BY EM

    Queens niggas run you niggas, ask russell simmons

    NAS DOESNT RUN SHIT AND OBVIOUSLY HE DOESNT RUN HIS BOSS SO????

    EVERYTHING ELSE HE SAID WAS JUST GENERIC BULLSHIT

    AND O NO HE WAS WEARING A HAWIAN SHIRT IN A VIDEO 15 YEARS AGO, HE IS UGLY WHO CARES GENERIC GARBAGE

  96. ray rizzle Says:

    yes finally someone took the time to break it down – but u know what though i read the article where nas’ baby momma carmen is interviewed – I used to think that Jay beatin those was a lie, it wasnt – he beat those hella times – kinda sad if u ask me – and that A.I. stuff, he hit those too – thats crazy to me, what if the whole beef was not over lyrics and bein the best emmcee but over Carmen – u’ll never know

  97. eskay Says:

    it basically was over Carmen.

  98. Thadopeja Says:

    and that’s why, in my opinion, that superugly was better than ether. The more personal, the more better. If this whole battle was over Carmen, I’d have to say jay won the battle and the war with the superugly freestyle over the knocturnal beat.

  99. e-dubbs Says:

    You gots to be kidding me.. When I asked for his ‘lies’. I was talking about his songs where he was droppin’ jewels. Because that was Shawn’s dispute. He said peolpe dont understand Nas because his rhymes are full of b/s. But I’ll entertain you anyway.. Damn, your girl must really love Nas for you to hate dude so much.. but >slick rick voice>

    I got this, locked since ‘9-1
    I am the truest, name a rapper that i ain’t influence

    (GIVE ME A BREAK NAS AND JAYS STYLES ARE NOTHING ALIKE NOT EVEN CLOSE ).. Your style doesnt have to be the same to have someone influence you. If you think Nas didn influence every NY rapper in the game in one shape or form, A) under 21 years old, B) Just a Nas hater or C) A complete idiot. Now to give credit, I think I can say the same thing about Jay, I believe he influenced every NY rapper to come out after him.

    First, biggie’s ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than big
    Dick suckin lips, whyn’t you let the late, great veteran live

    (APPARENTLY NAS HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS LOTS OF YOU HAVE AND THATS THE WAY TO TWIST PEOPLE WORDS TO HEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR ) umm.. If Biggie was the King of NY (allegedly) and Jay now claims he title, you can easily say Jay thinks he’s better. I think Nas reached on the comment but its a diss track.

    And now i smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
    You seem to be only concerned with dissin women

    ( YEA OK NAS NEVER EVER DISREPECTS WOMEN, RIGHT) Who said Nas doesnt? Your clearly mad.

    In ‘88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
    Callin my crib and i ain’t even give you my numbers
    All i did was gave you a style for you to run with
    Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
    Wearin jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
    No jail bars jigga, no pies, no case
    Just hawaiian shirts, hangin with little chase

    ( NAS IS THE ONE WITH THE SWEET CHILDHOOD HE WAS NEVER IN THE STREETS EVER JAY PUT HIS WORK IN BEFORE HE STARTED HIS OWN LABEL… again, allegedly. I’ve never found any facts on Jay-Z being this big drug dealer he claimed to be. You keep trying to reverse it on Nas. Your getting cooked dawg, just stop. This is childs play for me.

    You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a stan

    ( HOW IS HE A PHONY ESPECIALLY MORE OF ONE THAN NAS, HOW IS HE A PUSSY OR A STAN PLEASE HE KILLS NAS LYRICALLY AND SALES ) Better yet, how is he not a phony, a fake, a pussy a stan? Carmen confirms that Jay seemed obsessed with Nas.. Sounds true enough. But neither of us really know.

    Is he dame diddy, dame daddy or dame dummy?
    Oh, i get it, you biggie and he’s puffy

    WHAT THE IS EVEN THE POINT OF THIS JUST THROWING BIG INTO IT FOR SHOCK VALUE GARBAGE, PLEASE DAME AND HOV NEVER ACTED LIKE BIG AND PUFF EXCEPT IN THE WAY THEY TOOK OVER THE GAME AND MADE CRAZY MONEY ( DONT GET IT TWISTED AND THINK I ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SALES IM JUST TAKEING THAT ARGUEMENT AWAY FROM THE NAS FANS ) Guy, its a diss track for crying out loud.

    Rockafeller died of aids, that was the end of his chapter
    And that’s the guy y’all chose to name your company after?

    WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THIS IS A BOLD FACE LIE.. Nope.. You can’t say its a lie because I actually looked up his cause of death and its “unknown”.. So there you go.

    Compared to beans you wack

    >>

    And your man stabbed un and made you take the blam

    BEANS IS NICE BUT NOWHERE NEAR HOV EVEN NAS KNOWS THAT AND CAM SAYS HOV STABBED UN OVER CHARLI B-MORE AND UN SAYS IT NEVER HAPPENED IT WAS JUST A PUBLICTY STUNT SO WHO KNOWS??? Exactly.. Who knows. You proving my point.

    You ass, went from jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big

    >>

    And, eminem murdered you on your own shi

    OOO YOU HUNG OUT WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE OUCH, AND YEA GETTING HURT BY EM YEA IM SURE HE IS THE ONLY RAPPER TO EVEN BE OUTDONE BY EM.. This is one I’ll disagree with. I dont think Em murdered him on anything but its all opinion.. Againm, No Lies.

    Queens niggas run you niggas, ask russell simmons

    NAS DOESNT RUN SHIT AND OBVIOUSLY HE DOESNT RUN HIS BOSS SO????.. He didnt say he did, jerk. He said Russell Simmons does and RS is from Queens..

    EVERYTHING ELSE HE SAID WAS JUST GENERIC BULLSHIT.. Ohh yeah, like Jay calling up Kiss and apologizing. Your mad doggy.

    AND O NO HE WAS WEARING A HAWIAN SHIRT IN A VIDEO 15 YEARS AGO, HE IS UGLY WHO CARES GENERIC GARBAGE

    I never seen anyone so pressed over this topic. I hope your related to Jay because there is no way you should care this much. I say if you like an artist and enjoy his music, why would you care what other people think? I enjoy Jay’s music and Nas’s. Again, I think Nas won and I like Nas better. That makes me happy. But you sound soooo maddd homie.

  100. D. Billz Says:
  101. Equality Cipher Says:

    If I’m not better than BIG, I’m the closest one. . .

    Does anyone else remember this line? He says he’s better than big plain and simple, case closed.

    Mos said it best, it’s simple mathematics. . .

    You’ve never wondered why Eminem’s last verse on Renegade had such a religious overtone. Even Em’ knows about the Supreme Teaching and Masonic Mysteries Hova and his camp deal with.

    See I’m a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
    Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here

    He is ripping Hova apart, this is not coincidence, Nas heard it, we all heard it. I won’t go into it too much but there is a theory that Shakespeare had a hand in modernizing the bible, a regular modern day Shakespeare. Then he calls himself, Jesus Christ King of the Latter Day Saints aka Mormons.

    Then Marshal gets vicious and vindictive,

    To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
    As a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist

    Eminem knows what these doctrines teach: Caucasians are grafted devils, satanist, atheist, hate mongers, barbarians. This is what Nas was talking about when he said, Eminem murdered you on your own track. Em took Hov to the books, on his own track. Not to battle but to let us know, let’s make this music but hey I know deal, and you have to respect that.

    These emcess are way smarter than people give them credit for.

  102. eskay Says:

    ^ I think you’re reaching just a little with that one. just my opinion

  103. Equality Cipher Says:

    These emcess are way smarter than people give them credit for.

  104. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ i agree people dont realize how smart someone like jay or em is to write the rhymes they do but by no means was em flaunting that he was killin hov and rewriteing hip-hop. em verse defintely wasnt a shot at hov, your crazy if you really think that, EM really has way too much respect for jay and hip-hop to try some shady undermining shit with jay

  105. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    YO ESKAY DID THIS SHIT ACTUALLY AIR LAST NIGHT? I PASSED OUT EARLY AS SHIT LAST NIGHT SO I DIDNT GET TO CHECK FOR IT

  106. eskay Says:

    nah its tonight at 11

  107. MCHueyP Says:

    Jay and Nas both my dudes. Takeover was betta than Ether. So jay shouldn’t of dropped Superugly. But he did and everyone judging it against ether. Then he dropped BP2 and sounded angry that he lost while nas was cool as a fan. So I guess nas did win.

  108. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    o no doubt good looks i thought you said last night. is it mtv or bet? you got me all confused with all these posts

  109. eskay Says:

    MTV (I think, I’m kinda confused myself)

  110. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    no doubt atleast i know im not alone

  111. e-double Says:

    MCHueyP = Smart.. Yall should learn.

  112. eskay Says:

    I don’t see how Jay sounded mad on BP2. he sounded cool and collected to me. especially for somebody who’s soul was still burning slow.

  113. tyronebiggums71 Says:

    ^^^ i dont get it either people keep saying that but i need an explanation because his flow was no different from every other song same confident swagger =, shit honestly i think it was one of his cockiest records

  114. thekid10705 Says:

    Yo, Nas won the battle..Nas’ is just way too incosistent with his rhymes/albums…I think too many rappers are making music to make money not making music to make music..Whne Nas was dope he just rhyming….He fell off when he tried to start making hits….So Jay is 100% about that one…

    As for the Rockefellar dis about aids, whne I first heard I didn’t know what to think…It might have sounded good but Rockafellar didn’t die of AIDS…I think Nas was talking about the actor Rock Hudson which didn’t make sense for the rhyme so he just went w/ J.D..yeah some stupid shit…

  115. e dubbs Says:

    If anyone doesnt think Jay’s confidence level took a serious hit initially after the battle, your either a) in denial or b) havent listen to him. I mean peep his interviews during that whole fiascal. Especially the one with Angie on Hot97. The dude was a studdering fool. He’s whole “I Will Not Lose” slogan pretty much became an afterthought. That BP2 track really sounds like “LOOK @ ME AND WHAT I DO! IM SMART LIKE NAS TOO!”.

    When it first came out me and some of my peoples were sitting around giggling at the radio pointing like “damn.. he really sad! ha”

  116. cbrizzle AKA img...unot Says:

    nas won the streets spoke end of story. @ the end of the day jay was like ,” did di di di did di di did I warrant that, I mean dick sucking lips, i mea i me i mea i mean, you cant say that, I think the dude nas took it to far” does that sound like a “W” to you?

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